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ScottG
Dec 10, 2006, 6:23 AM
well, actually - i just looked it up on the diagrams list (now that the milam tower diagram has been approved) and it is the 7th proposed/underconstructiontower---second in the nation tho


does anyone know when the commissioners meeting is for the tower proposal? it would be interesting to watch that on tv..im sure there will be many many meeting...to allow the nimbys- i mean public to voice their opinion..... but to avoid daja vu- why didnt the commissioners approve the original stratosphere height? wouldnt it have been the same as the milam tower? so then what makes this proposal any different?

but i guess the one thing it does have it going in its favor is that the strat was built....it wouldnt be as of an effect if there are already tall towers near by....

wait i remember reading the brochures for the ivana tower and it said that the surrounding properties were under some variance that prohibited anything taller than 400 ft or something...? promoting that their views wouldnt be obstructed...maybe the milam site was too far away to consider....speaking of...any news of these developers in question to revive ivana/summit?

lets get THREE supertalls on that end of the strip!!!! :)

Steven C.
Dec 10, 2006, 7:20 AM
A note on why milam would be great and absolutely terrible for the north end of the strip (imo)

First of all, i work in front of the old stardust and across the street from it. I book timeshare appointments, and I can tell you what my opinion of the milam building would be.

If built, it will be a boon for the north end of the strip. Consider the current surroundings:

-Sahara (possibly being sold in the time it would take to build milam)
-Hilton Grand Vacation Club (likely expanding sometime - who knows when)
-Circus Circus (rumored to be closed orr extensively redone sometime in the next few years)
-Riviera (chance of this being sold or reno'ed soon)
-Conrad Majestic (will this ever be built?)

Believe it or not, the closure of the stardust did not impact the area as much as people thought it would. The stratosphere still remains as a good room value on the north end, and the circus circus and frontier are still FULL of people who are on mini-vacation packages from Tahiti Village or Europeans who know nothing about the resorts other than the fact that "Diamonds are Forever" was filmed there years ago...

So the addition of 5000 rooms would be great for the area... If built (and let's assume that the super ambitions figure of 1 floor a week for encore's current construction and strecth it to 1.5 floors a week due to the girth of the building) it would take about 100 weeks to finish... by then Echelon place will be done, and the frontier will likely be closed (the frontier has their lease through the end of 2007 btw) which means that there will be new need for rooms in the area...

But then consider the logistics of the project.

My usual route to work (parking at the "gold key shops" near the kimchi place and the church) would take me down charleston to LVB and straight to the parking lot...

Sky las vegas has had the street tied up for months... and that is for a single condo about 50 stories tall... if you consider the 2-3 years required to build something like milam, you need to tie traffic up for that long, and then after it is done, you have another 5000 possible rooms worth of people who need to get up to the strip, who may have originally stopped at the riv, but now need to go up past to this project's site.

i want to see the largest building in the country here... where i live. and i never cry NIMBY, but is this at all feasable?

Steven C.
Dec 10, 2006, 7:24 AM
five hundy by midnight is reporting that the luxor is taking all but 2 egyptian themed stores, and might take down the sphinx in front of the hotel to replace it with retail.....the workers at the luxor are saying that they want to stray away from the egyptian theme......


might be hard considering the hotel is...a...pyramid...

maybe not impossible, considering that part of the current MGM grand is another hotel if i recall correctly.

If played right, they could change the entire building to swallow up the pyramid, and keep it an interesting part of how it looks.

ScottG
Dec 10, 2006, 8:40 AM
youre right about mgm absorbing a hotel,but it was a small MOTEL almost, and it is just the front bottom leg that had the facade redone. i dont think the luxor will be remodeled. it WILL always be the eqyptian reort in vegas, just not as heavily themed as it is....i'd think they just want to modernize it a bit....like take out some of the ornaments that weight it down...think of it like the renovation at aladdin, how they took out all the plastic 'gems' along every wall on the interior.

the theme is just everywhere, and i think they just want to take down a bit. they CANT make it into another hotel. its a pyramid, the expansion towers are in pyramid forms. they wouldnt spend the money to redo the facade to end up with a dead end, different colored pyramid. no no- luxor will stay the luxor just not as themed.

but taking out the sphinx suprises me....that is the center peice!

mdiederi
Dec 10, 2006, 2:29 PM
does anyone know when the commissioners meeting is for the tower proposal? it would be interesting to watch that on tv..im sure there will be many many meeting...to allow the nimbys- i mean public to voice their opinion.....
One of the articles said it would come back up for review in March.

but to avoid daja vu- why didnt the commissioners approve the original stratosphere height? wouldnt it have been the same as the milam tower? so then what makes this proposal any different?

but i guess the one thing it does have it going in its favor is that the strat was built....it wouldnt be as of an effect if there are already tall towers near by....

wait i remember reading the brochures for the ivana tower and it said that the surrounding properties were under some variance that prohibited anything taller than 400 ft or something...? promoting that their views wouldnt be obstructed...maybe the milam site was too far away to consider....speaking of...any news of these developers in question to revive ivana/summit?

lets get THREE supertalls on that end of the strip!!!! :)

Both the Strat and Summit are in the city limits and have different rules. For instance, the city doesn't have a law that says they can't overrule an FAA recommendation. That's how the Strat got approved. The FAA rejected the current height, but the city approved it anyway. Whereas, the county has an actual law that says they can't issue a building permit if the FAA says "no".

mdiederi
Dec 10, 2006, 2:33 PM
Station Casinos received County Commission approval for Durango Station at Durango Drive and the Las Vegas Beltway.

Phase one will feature 400 rooms, a 120,000-square-foot casino, movie theater, banquet hall and pool areas. A second phase will include a 600-room tower, entertainment center and expanded banquet facility.

Station is mum on when it plans to break ground on Durango Station, and it may not happen for years.
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Last week Station Casinos management announced plans to take the company private, with Colony Capital (owners of Las Vegas Hilton) as a silent financial partner. Probably won't be any ground breaking on new projects until that is finalized, which shouldn't take too long if there are no competing bids. IMHO, the Aliante and Durango neighborhoods aren't built up enough yet to support more local's casinos. Red Rock is already cannibalizing their other casinos. Instead, I would like to see Station Casinos develop their huge Wild Wild West site next to I-15 at Trop, and tap into the strip tourist market.

mdiederi
Dec 10, 2006, 2:38 PM
LOOKING IN ON: GAMING

Harrah's keeps plans grand, but quiet
By Liz Benston
Las Vegas Sun


Harrah's Entertainment has delayed announcing details of its center-Strip redevelopment plans, pending a potential deal to take the company private. But officials aren't sitting on their hands.

The company's proposed 1,017-room hotel tower at its Caesars Palace flagship is scheduled to go before the Clark County Commission on Dec. 20 for approval. Also proposed is a nearly 150,000-square-foot building to replace the Roman Plaza with casino space, restaurants, retail stores, bars and convention areas.

The convention center at the south end of the property also would grow.

Before dismissing these plans as just the latest baubles to be shoehorned onto the property, consider that Harrah's has still grander goals across the street, with the makeover of Barbary Coast, Flamingo, Imperial Palace and Harrah's casinos.

Harrah's spokesman David Strow said all the plans will be unveiled at once, likely next year.
I read another analysis in Motley Fool http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2006/commentary06120603.htm?source=eptyholnk303100&logvisit=y&npu=y&bounce=y&bounce2=y that predicted the company might be broken up with the possibility of Las Vegas Sands (Venetian) buying the Harrah's-Imperial Palace-Flamingo-Barbary lots and replicating what Adelson is doing on Macau's Cotai Strip. Pure conjecture, of course.

ScottG
Dec 10, 2006, 5:55 PM
so if thats how the strat height got approved...why didnt they approve the original height- making it twice its current height? compromise?


i would doubt the faa will approve a height twice the height of the strat....

why do developers even think they can get something approved if the faa continuously turns down heights that are lower than what they want to do...


AND even if it was approved...how come sup with the 5 biliong price tag? not to mention the rising construction costs....unless, as i constantingly have said, once city center is complete prices will go down and there will be another huge boom until there are too many taking over the labor supply

sky-of-webs
Dec 10, 2006, 6:53 PM
The strat was originally approved at 1080 feet and more than fifty percent built when Bob Stupak decided to go for the worlds tallest structure at around 5 feet higher than the cn tower. That is when the major conflict with not the faa but Robert Broadbent the Mcarren head official started. Robert was a former county official and like most people in Vegas had a hatred for Mr. Stupak. For the height increase Broadbent gathered as many people as he could find to derail that addition, including Faa people, computer modelers and pilots that filmed take off and landings from the north facing runways.
Ultimately the reason the City council denied the height was fear of a possible faa changing flight patterns on heavy north or south windy days for what was well understood to be only a mast addition for the height. Although there was going to be an additional observation deck at 1500 feet they just couldn't approve an antenae, even though they did want the prestige of the tallest in the world. The city caved in to threats.
Note the final height built was still 70 feet taller than originally planned.


Of course it well guessed that if Steve Wynn had come up with the proposal he would have been allowed to build it right on the end of the runway and included a waterfall from the top. LOL

OH, and at the time the tallest buildings on the strip were 330 feet, a strip- county set top out height. That instantly changed do to the building of the Strat. Go on check it out.

And the Milam is Condo-resort rooms.... Bruce Hiatt sells those.

Don Pacho
Dec 11, 2006, 12:40 AM
Allure

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6564/allurelasvegas005sgx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/640/allurelasvegas004swv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4271/allurelasvegas006sav8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Turnberry Towers

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3513/turnberrytowers001spr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8044/turnberrytowers005stc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4058/turnberrytowers008sbw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


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BrandonJXN
Dec 11, 2006, 1:14 AM
Wow..Allure pretty much showed up overnight.

Is there any news on H.U.E.?

LMich
Dec 11, 2006, 3:31 AM
I'm really kind of disappointed how similar the Allure, Turnberry, and Sky have all appear. Nice towers, but they all look significantly different than their renderings, which made each of these projects seem unique.

mdiederi
Dec 11, 2006, 3:46 AM
Speaking of renderings, here are some from Adrian Smith, courtesy of cmilam.

The correct name for what we've been calling the "Milam Tower" is actually the "Las Vegas Tower".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71491739.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71491742.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71491743.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71490295.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71491738.jpg

vegasrain84
Dec 11, 2006, 4:44 AM
I was informed that some of the architects at Skidmore, Owings & Merrill have had some concerns about my drawing of the "Las Vegas Tower" here on Skyscraperpage. In light of the newest images provided, I wanted to see if anyone else would like to draw a more satisfactory drawing of the tower. After 3 days working on the drawing, I do not want to start over as you can imagine, so that is why I am asking others to consider redrawing the tower.
Thanks

future29
Dec 11, 2006, 6:05 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71491739.jpg
is that port cochere on Paradise Rd? im trying to figure out whats north and also what properties around the LVT will be effected by the huge shadow it casts.

LMich
Dec 11, 2006, 6:22 AM
Yes, that would be on Paradise. If my bearings are correct, this looks to be looking west (slightly southwest) over Paradise.

ScottG
Dec 11, 2006, 7:51 AM
kinda weird that there are three 'sky lobbies'..notice the top floor is an observation deck.......so then why have the stratosphere anymore?????


im suprised by the amount of work already put into this project.....maybe they really willfight for it BUT is the money going to show up when the construction price is given?

mdiederi
Dec 11, 2006, 5:33 PM
is the money going to show up when the construction price is given?
They've already said it's going to cost almost $5 billion to build.

LVT itself, which will cost approximately $4.8 billion to deliver (inclusive of land and all softs) - about $1,250,000 per room.
That would be a new record price per room to build a Vegas resort.

mdiederi
Dec 11, 2006, 6:27 PM
Even more renders. Note the Fontainebleau structure next door.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71519701.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71519700.png

Pools
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/71519693.png

LMich
Dec 12, 2006, 12:12 AM
I'm liking this proposal more and more everyday.

sky-of-webs
Dec 12, 2006, 1:31 AM
I'm kind of curious as to who would care about a shadow in Vegas unless it went across their pool area. And being north of all the close properties, only in the summer morning and late evening would there be a chance of a shadow.
The fontainbleau is huge.

sky-of-webs
Dec 12, 2006, 1:36 AM
Man that tower just keeps looking better with every rendering.

future29
Dec 12, 2006, 1:44 AM
kinda weird that there are three 'sky lobbies'..notice the top floor is an observation deck.......so then why have the stratosphere anymore??????

did you think they would build something this high and not make an observation deck?

mdiederi
Dec 12, 2006, 1:55 AM
The fontainbleau is huge.
Have there been any renders of Fontainebleau? :shrug: I think this is the first mock up I've seen of it. Hope it's not just another big box. Originally it was supposed to be taller and probably more slender.

Patrick
Dec 12, 2006, 2:22 AM
Allure Turned out great, very fast construction, popped up out of nowhere.
Turnberry, eeh those elevator shafts are an eyesore.

The Las Vegas Tower, LAME NAME. But hey, its growing on me. I still dont really like the whole "shape" its not bad as the one in London, now thats a nastly looking building (30 St. Mary Axe, or whatever its called)

It looks good from the corner angles. Its nice and tall, but two tall. I really dont like how that thing might be the 2nd tallest in the USA. I hope it really gets redesigned.

Fontainebleau looks promising, tall, nice shape.

Don Pacho
Dec 12, 2006, 2:22 AM
Eagle Point & Skywalk
Grand Canyon West, Arizona
As of Nov 24, 2006

I could not see much of the Skywalk project since the site is closed from the public view.
However, a chief of the Hualapai tribe describes proudly the beauty of this area:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4258/grandcanyonwest030syj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Here is a small video (about 12 secs) I took of this zone:

Grand Canyon West – Eagle Point (http://youtube.com/watch?v=D5VGmLtlnKw)


That small concrete or metal object at the left side on the top is the only visible thing to the public.
This will be the view that people will be able to see from skywalk:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4862/grandcanyonwest032sir7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


The billboard in front of the site:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9559/grandcanyonwest034sbb4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Notice that the rendering shows a similar eagle, one of the canyon attractions people will be able to see from the skywalk.
The eagle:

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8549/grandcanyonwest027sbe8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


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sky-of-webs
Dec 12, 2006, 2:32 AM
The sky lobbies break up the tower into different sections served by local elevators, each sky lobby is served by one or two express elevators. Its the only way to have a tall building that wouldn't be completely full of elevator shafts. There is only one observation deck(s) (note the strat is several floors high).

hulahoop
Dec 12, 2006, 3:35 AM
I think the Last Vegas Tower has a great shape, much better than the Ivana. It really is world class architecture, but I don't think it really needs to be so tall to be a very positive addition to the Las Vegas sky line.

If it were a 100 to 150 meters shorter, it still would be higher than the very tip of the stratosphere, and therefor the tallest structure West of the Mississippi. It could still have the highest observation deck in Las Vegas, depending on where they placed it.

If it were at least a 100 meters shorter it would also "fit" into the strip much better. I like the way that the North Strip hotels (Wynn, Encore, Trump Palazzo) create (or will create) an upward diaganol line toward the stratosphere. The LVT as presently planned would be way out of proportion to the rest of Las Vegas, kind of like how the World Trade Center was for the rest of the New York skyline.

Finally, if it were a 100-150 meters shorter, I don't think that its architectural beauty would be compromised. In fact, I think some of its proportions might be improved.

Milam may already be thinking in these terms, and may be asking permission for over 550 meters, when he may only really be aiming for 450. I'm curious about the forums' consensus on whether the tower would be diminished aesthetically by being shorter?

Steven C.
Dec 12, 2006, 7:20 AM
FYI, dont know whether it is TRUE, but i pass the Ivana site each day, and it says on the sign that it was APPROVED with the FAA for 923 ft (or something around that height)

that true? or did someone say that hight was a problem with that project and the surrounding views etc?

ScottG
Dec 12, 2006, 7:36 AM
did you think they would build something this high and not make an observation deck?

no but im thinking the stratosphere aint liking that.

Ive seen soome rough rendering of fountainblue a while ago, and it doesnt look like that.

its more like the palazzo...with out the 3rd back leg....then rotate it 180 degrees, the 2 side legs bend to the east like the aladinn. and its all glass...and blue/silver. BUT it was an early design so who knows!

they said it was to mimic a razor...?

and LV TOWER looks great...curios as to why so many renderings are popping up...and from where?
im likeing all the evidence of work that has been put into the planning! this should keep us talking for a while

EDIT...

i just looked at the fountainblaeu massing again ..and that actually was the same design i saw a while back, except the views were from the riviera road...so maybe the hotel front is goin to face the south..also notice how the hotel tower and the turnberry towers are all facing the same direction...maybe to not abstruct the views from the condo units....

LMich
Dec 12, 2006, 10:29 AM
FYI, dont know whether it is TRUE, but i pass the Ivana site each day, and it says on the sign that it was APPROVED with the FAA for 923 ft (or something around that height)

that true? or did someone say that hight was a problem with that project and the surrounding views etc?

Yes, it was approved to that height. The project didn't fail because the developer couldn't get the height, the financing just wasn't there. But, as is obvious, there is a big difference between 923 and 1,888 feet, in fact twice the difference.

Fido
Dec 12, 2006, 11:32 AM
Eagle Point & Skywalk
Grand Canyon West, Arizona
As of Nov 24, 2006

That small concrete or metal object at the left side on the top is the only visible thing to the public.
This will be the view that people will be able to see from skywalk:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4862/grandcanyonwest032sir7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



This pic is amazing!!!
Grand Canyon is trully beautiful I wish I could be here someday.

mdiederi
Dec 12, 2006, 2:16 PM
Just a couple weeks ago the owner of the Ivana/Summit site was given a two year extension by the city to start developing the site with the original plans. In the application they said that all the issues that stopped the earlier development have been resolved. The Kisache Group from Atlanta (http://www.thekisachegroup.com/Index2.html) recently said that they had purchased the plans as they were originally submitted, except that they will add a casino. Kisache has zero track record, as far as I can tell, and their website is vague and misleading, using photos of property they have nothing to do with. But, who knows?

mdiederi
Dec 12, 2006, 5:37 PM
Here's some more on that Summit project extension. It was submitted September 19, 2006 and approved on December 6, 2006.

Scroll down to item 77 in this link.
http://www5.lasvegasnevada.gov/sirepub/pubmtgframe.aspx?meetid=51&doctype=Agenda

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/image1in5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/135331121220060945227651.jpg

They submitted the same JMA design as before, but further in the filing it said something about a redesign and Kirsache mentioned a casino, which I don't see in the ground level plan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/summit02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/summit17.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/summit15.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/summit03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/summit16.jpg

Don Pacho
Dec 13, 2006, 1:09 AM
CityCenter models

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7518/citycenter017seo1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5302/citycenter018sel2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4914/citycenter019sxu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2478/citycenter020slx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/76/citycenter021sfj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6465/citycenter011sth8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


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sky-of-webs
Dec 13, 2006, 1:42 AM
Nice find on the Summit diagrams and massing renderings.

Daquan13
Dec 13, 2006, 1:57 AM
Nice find on the Summit diagrams and massing renderings.



Does this mean that the Ivana project still has a chance to be built? Would be good if it does!!

ScottG
Dec 13, 2006, 3:57 AM
i doubt this devolepment team is anything to write home about...http://www.thekisachegroup.com/ExecutiveBoard.html look at the "CEOs" they are real young...with an 'associates' but is 'determined and passionate' no success history, nothing to prove themselves, no credibility...

mdiederi
Dec 13, 2006, 4:25 AM
:previous: Yeah, that's the impression I get too, but if they can come up with the money, that's all it takes. They aren't even mentioned in the application, it was the current property owner who submitted it. Hope they're not taking him and other investors for a ride?

. . .

Good close-ups of the PCC model Don Pacho. :tup: I can see some monorail tracks running through there.

Speaking of models, I just got back from the preview for the Frank Gahry show at the museum. It opens to the public on Wednesday. There are over 100 models for the Brain Institute building. Mostly small preliminary ideas and some larger final versions. There were also some preliminary doodle drawings on display. The melted part of the building is the back and faces the street corner and contains the cafe, an assembly area and a brain museum. Then there is an open air area under the part of the melted lattice leading to the main building. The spiral staircase is in the middle of the main building. The front, facing the parking lot, is the blocky part and half of the blocks are glass and it's pretty straight forward looking from the parking lot. There were also floor plans and all of the floors in the main building are offices with desks, not a single hospital bed in the entire building, so patients will not be staying there. It's not a hospice.

Still no announcement for groundbreaking, except that it will be after the new year. I remember them saying it would be last August.

There was also a large model of the Guggenheim in Bilbao and a tiny model of the Disney building and a large model of a museum in Jerusalem.

There was also a model for the vision of that whole Union Park area downtown.

All of the models were handmade mostly from wood, foamcore, cardboard and plastic. None are as polished as the CityCenter model in Don Pacho's pictures.

AhChu
Dec 13, 2006, 11:25 PM
:yuck:

Not to sound so negative, but does the content of that site give you the feel of a poorly done college business project. It is filled with "we believe" or "we are different" etc.

mdiederi
Dec 14, 2006, 12:17 AM
Check out these "my space" sites for Kisache Group principles. They're all 19 and 20 years old. On SSC they said that they had already been approved for a gaming license. That's odd, they aren't even old enough to gamble. :jester:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=122337691

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=12045714

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=48169555

hulahoop
Dec 14, 2006, 2:45 AM
Naveen Natarajan (CEO of the Kisache Group)

This is pretty hilarious. From his My Space cite, (link above)

"I'm a 19 year old from Alpharetta, GA who is fun, charming, outgoing, and down to earth. I am big into real estate and I started my own real estate development company about a year ago and we are currently closing a huge deal in Las Vegas."

"I am also a big fan of smoking shisha. You can see that in my pictures. haha Otherwise, I also love to hang out with my friends and busines partners in my free time. I always throw parties to entertain people...."

So this guy and his friends are going to finance the Ivana/Summit Casino condo/resort. Great.

I wonder where they got the money to purchase their last bag of "shisha" from, let alone the plans to the Ivana?

If the City Council has approved any document with the "Kisache Group" name on it, I think this would be very embarassing for them. Are they suppose to do any type of due diligence?

ScottG
Dec 14, 2006, 2:50 AM
How much does it cost to buy failed plans? someone mentioned that the old site owner was the one who submitted the proposal again, so maybe this kisache group is only 'representatives' which basically means ....NOTHING

ScottG
Dec 14, 2006, 2:51 AM
No Roof For Encore
In an interview in the Las Vegas Sun, casino impresario Steve Wynn says he has decided to go topless at his next casino-hotel. No, not like that. Original plans had the pool area at Encore, the sequel to Wynn Las Vegas, under a giant, retractable glass roof but those plans have been dropped. Instead the pool area will be open to the sky like most of the others in town and will feature some sort of giant water attraction that Wynn is not divulging the details of yet. Encore is expected to open in 2008.

mdiederi
Dec 14, 2006, 11:07 PM
These white frame components down in the Cosmopolitan hole look like they might be starting to erecting a couple tower cranes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/cosmo3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/Cosmo2.jpg

MsuMix
Dec 15, 2006, 2:11 AM
Great Pics!! Those are definately 2 tower cranes. Cosmo won't be structurally at grade for over a year. But it looks like all the mats are going in right now

Don Pacho
Dec 15, 2006, 2:47 AM
Signature

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/4062/signatureatmgmgrand012syg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7938/signatureatmgmgrand003siz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7838/signatureatmgmgrand010sqv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Encore / Palazzo

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/3459/wynnlasvegas003sys6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Hilton / Sky

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/9633/hiltongrandvacationscluha4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/6113/hiltongrandvacationsclujd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



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future29
Dec 15, 2006, 2:52 AM
I wonder where they got the money to purchase their last bag of "shisha" from, let alone the plans to the Ivana?

"shisha" is not marijuana as you may want to think it is flavored tobacco which is smoked from a water pipe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shisha
do you really think this guy would be stupid enough to post pictures of him smoking illegal substance? please do not make assumptions and try to classify these guys as such. i do agree with most, however, that this Kisache looks like a college group project and they must earn their credibility. just here to inform the uninformed about the "shisha" matter.

MsuMix
Dec 15, 2006, 2:24 PM
I'll be the first to give these guys props if they pull it off.. but who the hell would lay millions on the line for their project with no previous development experience or credibility? :shrug:

mdiederi
Dec 15, 2006, 5:02 PM
Maybe they have rich relatives who are going to set them up. :shrug:

mdiederi
Dec 15, 2006, 5:11 PM
You guys seen these Sullivan Square renderings before?
Don't remember them being posted before.
Saw their ad in the paper so decided to look for these.
It's a retro style urban village, something Vegas lacks.
The site is down by the 215 southwest curve.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Sullivan/view_01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Sullivan/view_02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Sullivan/view_04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Sullivan/view_05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Sullivan/view_07.jpg

Don Pacho
Dec 15, 2006, 5:21 PM
Impressive and very elegant !! :tup:
Thanks mdiederi

highriseLV
Dec 15, 2006, 8:52 PM
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Dec-15-Fri-2006/business/11390644.html


Dec. 15, 2006
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

W developer to consider options

Edge Resorts to explore partnerships for condo project

By HUBBLE SMITH
REVIEW-JOURNAL


Billboards advertise the W Las Vegas condominium-hotel project on its planned Harmon Avenue site.
Photo by John Locher.

Las Vegas-based Edge Resorts, developer of the W Las Vegas on Harmon Avenue, has hired Credit Suisse Group of New York to explore "strategic partnerships" in the $1.7 billion mixed-use project, Edge principal Reagan Silber said.

The 46-acre property is not being listed for sale, though Silber said he has no doubt that there are investors who would like to buy the land.

Edge bought 21 acres from home builder D.R. Horton at the northeast corner of Harmon Avenue and Koval Lane, the site of a former nightclub, for $108 million last year. The group acquired an adjacent 25 acres this year that was going to be developed into the Las Ramblas condo project backed by actor George Clooney.

The W is planned for a mix of 3,000 hotel and luxury condo units, 10 restaurants and nightclubs, 75,000-square-foot casino, 300,000 square feet of convention and meeting space, Fred Segal fashion emporium, spa and fitness center. It was scheduled to open in 2008.

Silber said he's been approached by a number of gaming and lodging operators, private equity partners, financial sponsors and real estate developers who have expressed interest in becoming part of the W Las Vegas project. He wouldn't name any of them.

"It's impossible for us to do everything we're doing without a process to run it," Silber said Tuesday. "Credit Suisse is exploring all of these relationships from people that called us."

Edge Resorts' principals have yet to decide what they'll do. The company could bring on a financial partner to help with development or, given the land's strong underlying value, possibly sell one or both parcels outright.

Based on Morgan Hotel Group's appraisal of roughly 25 acres acquired in the Hard Rock Hotel deal and the $205 million that Edge paid for Las Ramblas, real estate along the Harmon corridor east of the Strip is estimated at $8 million to $10 million an acre.

"Depending on the outcome of the process, we may also elect not to pursue any transaction with a third party," Edge spokeswoman Maggie Feldman said.

Edge is no longer taking unit specific reservations for condos after selling out the first two releases, she said. Interested buyers are being placed on a priority waiting list. After the new year, the company will make a determination on the release of more units, contacting people on the list.

"The upside of building a hotel-condo is not as favorable as it was 24 months ago or even 12 months ago," said Jeremy Aguero, principal of Applied Analysis research firm in Las Vegas. "That being what it is, those with development interests are going to begin rethinking projects. A lot of the value is tied up in land. All the risk is tied up in development. Why take that risk, especially in today's market?"

It's a lot easier for multibillion-dollar companies such as MGM Mirage, Boyd Gaming Corp. and Station Casinos to start construction of a condo-hotel project than it is for the individuals at Edge, Silber said.

"There's no doubt construction costs are high and because of that, we slowed down the last four months to go out and raise money," Silber said. "Exactly what's the cost and what programs can we provide? Do we have nine restaurants or seven restaurants? Do we have a 3-acre pool or a 4-acre pool? Should we have 2,000 units in the first phase or 4,000? You've got all these questions.

"The one thing I don't worry about is condo buyers and I mean that as sure as I'm sitting here," he added. "We could sell them all day long. We took reservations and sold 500 units in the first release and raised the price and sold another 250 units in the second release. ... I'm not worried about our location and I'm not worried about Vegas as a destination. The other thing I don't worry about is money. There is a lot of money in the world that wants to invest in real estate, gaming and lodging," he said.

Edge was already looking for a gaming partner to operate the casino at W Las Vegas, a high-end hotel brand of Starwood Hotels and Resorts, Silber said.

"The market's gotten white-hot again with these private equity groups and gaming and real estate companies that want to be here. The phone calls came in and we had to look broader," he said.

From a business and hospitality perspective, Las Vegas is entering another building boom with private equity funds, institutional investors and commercial lenders seeking out strategic investment plans in the market, said Christopher Bentley, principal of The Bentley Group Real Estate Advisors.

"While not all of the proposed developments will come to fruition, several high-profile, world-class developments will pique the interest of travelers and Wall Street," Bentley said.

Sources in Las Vegas suspect that the land is being put on the market because Starwood is pulling out of the project. Calls to Starwood Senior Vice President Ross Klein in New York and to Credit Suisse were not returned.

future29
Dec 15, 2006, 8:54 PM
i have always thought that sullivan square was the best concieved design approach that i have seen so far in vegas. it seems too far off from things, but i would still want to live there. all cities in america should have something like this, something classy and not tacky

highriseLV
Dec 15, 2006, 9:15 PM
i have always thought that sullivan square was the best concieved design approach that i have seen so far in vegas. it seems too far off from things, but i would still want to live there. all cities in america should have something like this, something classy and not tacky

Most big cities do - the downtown areas. I would be amazed if this project were to happen - because of its location. My thought is, most people living in the "burbs," live in the burbs because they want the white picket fence and a back yard. Most people who live in a high rise community live there because it is close to where they work, and close to other high rise projects where everything they need is located in the other buildings - within walking distance. What kind of new and existing businesses are there to support all of those high rises? Why would a second home owner want to live so far away from the worlds best dining and entertainment? I don't buy this project at that location. Cool concept if it were not so far away from everything. Even from the renderings, it looks like it should be a village in a downtown area - but off in the distance all you see is desert.

bobmcelligott
Dec 16, 2006, 12:11 AM
[QUOTE=Don Pacho;2510974][CENTER]Signature

Thanks Don Pacho for some of the best photos I've seen yet. I bought a studio in MGM Tower C as an investment. I've been watching it grow for a year and a half thanks to you people showing me the HardRock Cam and your photos. Very professional and detailed shots Don

LMich
Dec 16, 2006, 12:42 AM
Sullivan Square looks far too contrived. I rarely agree with the naysayers that say that "that project doesn't belong in Vegas." but I'd have to agree with them on Sullivan Square. Trying to replicate down to the smallest frill a design from another part of the country or the world is trying too hard. Rather, the developers should be trying to give it some kind of Vegas take or flare. This is the quintessential developer trying far too hard.

mdiederi
Dec 16, 2006, 3:32 PM
Vegas doesn't have a style of it's own, everything here is eclectic, well, except for the miles and miles of tile topped stucco houses. But taller developments can be any style they want, so Sullivan Square is fine in the way it is styled, actually kind of unique and interesting for this area, without being tasteless. Most of the first couple of floors of Sullivan Square would be retail space and offices providing a self-contained walkable economy. But, yeah, so far not much else has happened around that southwest corner of the 215 beltway and Durango, except for more suburbanization beyond an empty buffer. The Curve, a contemporary looking urban village planned across Durango from Sullivan was cancelled (or just postponed), and the Spanish View Towers across the 215 actually started construction and then mysteriously stopped and its lone tower crane has been twisting in the wind ever since. And, Durango Station keeps pushing back their groundbreaking. But then again, the freeway was only completed just a few months ago, so that might spur development. There's a sign on Durango, next to Sullivan, for some sort of giant University of Nevada Research Center development, that would create some jobs in the area. There are a few office complexes popping up here and there too. But mostly it's just bedroom communities out there right now. Sullivan would be out there all by itself without the other developments. But I have no doubt that in just a couple years every square inch of land around the southwest beltway curve will be developed.

Lecom
Dec 16, 2006, 8:06 PM
Sullivan Square looks beautiful, very East Coast.

mdiederi
Dec 17, 2006, 6:12 AM
One Las Vegas (http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/one_las_vegas.htm)

Towers 1 & 2 of an eventual 5 condo towers plus a couple hotel towers later.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/One4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/One3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/One1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/One2.jpg

jazfingr
Dec 17, 2006, 7:58 AM
:previous: One Las Vegas looks cheap and ugly, IMHO. It resembles the low cost housing projects that went up in large cities in the 60's. Retro, yes, but not the right retro. I don't know what the developers were thinking :shrug: Too bad their building five of them.

LMich
Dec 17, 2006, 9:40 AM
They aren't using any different materials that other condo projects are using. From Turnberry to ONE it's all that cheap GFRC and EIFS crap. Still, I think you're really exaggerating about it looking like a housing project.

mdiederi
Dec 17, 2006, 4:20 PM
Not quite as bad as that new Hilton building next door to Sky, but almost.

mdiederi
Dec 17, 2006, 4:25 PM
W Las Vegas in Trouble?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Dec-15-Fri-2006/business/11390644.html


Dec. 15, 2006
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

W developer to consider options

Kind of smells like trouble ... or at least a delay.

future29
Dec 17, 2006, 9:09 PM
if Sullivan square were to be built in downtown LV or on the 61 acres it would be a perfect fit. too bad none of the downtown developers have the foresight to plan something similar.

ScottG
Dec 18, 2006, 5:58 AM
has anyone seen the new las vegas tower diagram? its extremely well done, even the base has detail.....and it is from a 'phantom' illustrator...'SBROS' i checked his other diagrams...and vegas tower is the one he has done...

didnt vegasrain say he herd the developers were unsatisfied with his diagram? maybe they made there own.....good advertisement no?

mdiederi
Dec 18, 2006, 6:39 AM
'phantom' illustrator...'SBROS'
He owns the ad agency handling LVT (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2508052&postcount=84).

Vtown420
Dec 18, 2006, 10:48 PM
More NIMBYs against the Las Vegas Tower, this time it’s the Las Vegas Sun. Perhaps we should all write the paper with reasons why it should be built, and how the airport should work around the skyline and stop holding back progress.


December 13, 2006

Editorial: Safe airport vs. tall obelisk

Strip tower 739 feet taller than the Stratosphere would pose a threat to airport safety

Twelve years after a heated controversy over the height of the Stratosphere tower near Sahara Avenue and Las Vegas Boulevard, another proposal has come along for an even higher tower, one that would be the second-tallest building in the world if approved.

Texas developer Christopher Milam is proposing a tower somewhat resembling the Washington Monument for an area just south of the Sahara Hotel, at the site of a former water park. While the Washington Monument stands at just more than 555 feet, Milam's casino tower would stand more than three times as high, coming in at a staggering 1,888 feet.

When Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker told Las Vegas Sun reporter Liz Benston that Milam's proposed tower would be a danger to aircraft, it brought back memories of the fight in 1994 over the Stratosphere.

This tower was originally approved in 1990 at 1,012 feet. But the Las Vegas Planning Commission in April 1994 approved a request to add another 813 feet. This set off a battle that pitted the city against Clark County, the Federal Aviation Administration, Nellis Air Force Base and the Las Vegas Convention and Visitor's Authority.

Those arrayed against the new height of the Stratosphere argued that to guard against the danger of collisions with the tower, flight patterns would have to be radically adjusted, risking safety. The convention authority also argued that those adjustments would delay departures and arrivals at McCarran International Airport, costing airlines tens of millions of dollars - money that would be passed on to passengers, risking a loss in tourism.

Ultimately, the Stratosphere was approved at 1,149 feet, a height that quieted criticism but that was still considered unwise by aviation officials.

The Clark County Commission will review Milam's plan in March. Given the county's strong opposition to the Stratosphere's extended height 12 years ago, we anticipate that it will have little chance of approval.

Nevertheless, there are sure to be arguments for it, leading quite possibly to another prolonged controversy. Milam says he sees his proposed development as bringing forth an "iconic building" for Las Vegas. In our view, Las Vegas needs a safe airport more than it needs this iconic building.

sky-of-webs
Dec 19, 2006, 2:13 AM
You would think that the county planning commision document and any subsequent reports (news agents) would have seen the renderings and not refer The Las Vegas Tower to an obelisk. There is no resemblance between the two.
Of course it does say editorial. Was this a reader response or staff writer? If it was a reader please post their name so we can tell if it is someone with an agenda or just a person pointing out history.
And again, 12 years ago 330' ish was the topout on the strip, things have changed drastically since then.

Vtown420
Dec 19, 2006, 2:37 AM
Sorry, I forgot to post the link. It doesn't say who wrote it.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2006/dec/13/566654825.html

mdiederi
Dec 19, 2006, 5:13 PM
Palms Place
(the sky is gray because it was snowing this morning).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/palmsplace/pp7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/palmsplace/pp6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/palmsplace/PP1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/palmsplace/PP.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/palmsplace/pp2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/palmsplace/pp3.jpg

BrandonJXN
Dec 19, 2006, 9:36 PM
Snow in Vegas?

PuyoPiyo
Dec 19, 2006, 9:39 PM
^ Yupp during the winter time, but very little snow.

Patrick
Dec 21, 2006, 12:35 AM
Wow, Palms Place came out of nowhere.

Vegas Grows Up
Dec 22, 2006, 1:15 AM
I took this pic from the 8th floor of Panorama Towers on December 19th

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4946/dobi3.jpg

ScottG
Dec 22, 2006, 2:06 AM
ok vegas has ALMOST every color now.....

i beleive i see green glass on palms place..wich if you go to VTAT you can see a new model of palms place...looks all blue now

so vegas needs some red glass. and SILVER i want SILVER! W and pinnacle can close this deal!!!!

BruceH
Dec 22, 2006, 4:20 AM
Sullivan Square is a great project and while it's pricey per sq foot, its concept and architecture is bang on. It's funded too!!

BruceH
Dec 22, 2006, 4:24 AM
Kind of smells like trouble ... or at least a delay. News about W's status is coming soon.

Daquan13
Dec 22, 2006, 7:40 AM
Question is, can or will it be built?

Several proposals or designs have either been put on the back burner or they were scrubbed altogether.

peltecs
Dec 23, 2006, 8:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz4h8ubY1EM

Amazing the guy taking the video didn't fall into the big hole. :koko:

drobar
Dec 23, 2006, 9:25 PM
Rumour has it that Spanish View Towers is set to resume construction. Believe it when I see the crane moving.:haha:

Don Pacho
Dec 23, 2006, 11:06 PM
World Market Center

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3074/worldmarketcenter004say3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1239/worldmarketcenter003srb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Turnberry Towers

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/2742/turnberrytowers007sxw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/5562/turnberrytowers003scx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2020/turnberrytowers012snv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Trump

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2060/trumplasvegas005sjy4.jpg

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3696/trumplasvegas002srv2.jpg

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Lecom
Dec 24, 2006, 3:02 AM
Trump looks sharp. Love the tower, mostly for its glass color. Fits perfectly in Vegas.

GeorgeLV
Dec 24, 2006, 3:48 AM
Trump looks sharp. Love the tower, mostly for its glass color. Fits perfectly in Vegas.

I wish Trump would have accented it a complementary color like green or burgundy. There's too many all gold buildings in Vegas.

mdiederi
Dec 24, 2006, 6:49 AM
Last week I was driving down Rancho south of Palace Station, along the freeway, and I noticed that they were tearing up the Scandi miniature golf site and was wondering what was going there.

Well, here's a little news:

http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2006/12/22/news/news_update/doc458c77fa38704181841286.txt

Station makes first move in Palace revamp

BY ARNOLD M. KNIGHTLY
December 22, 2006

A subsidiary of Station Casinos and FBLV Holding Company have entered into an operating agreement that combines 52 acres of land behind Palace Station stretching back to Desert Inn Road, according to a notice that was filed Friday with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Calls to Station Casinos executives revealed that the office is closed until Wednesday for the holiday.

The Las Vegas Sun reported in July that realtors were buying up houses behind the Palace Station, which is located on the corner of Rancho Drive and Sahara Avenue. While the agents never revealed who they were working for, residents of the area speculated that Station Casinos was behind the purchases.

According to the SEC filing, it is anticipated that the joint venture will develop, construct and manage a master development plan with mixed-use residential, retail, and entertainment.

The agreement includes the old 4.39-acre Scandia Family Fun Center that was sold to the New York-based Fisher Brothers for $6.35 million in September 2005. That sale closed earlier this year.

• • • • • • 

SEC Filing:

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?dcn=0001157523-06-012384&Type=HTML

Form 8-K for STATION CASINOS INC

22-Dec-2006

Other Events


ITEM 8.01. OTHER EVENTS
On December 19, 2006, SC Rancho Development, LLC, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Station Casinos, Inc. (the "Company"), and FBLV Holding Company LLC ("FBLV"), entered into an amended and restated operating agreement. Pursuant to the amended and restated operating agreement, the parties contributed, or caused to be contributed, approximately 52 acres (with approximately 20 acres contributed by the Company and approximately 32 acres contributed by FBLV) of improved and unimproved real property located along Rancho Road between Teddy Avenue and Desert Inn Road in Las Vegas, Nevada into a joint venture. It is anticipated that the joint venture will develop, construct and manage, pursuant to a master development plan, a mixed-use residential, retail and entertainment (excluding non-restricted gaming) project on all or a portion of such property. The timing, cost and scope of the project have yet to be determined.

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, the Registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.

Station Casinos, Inc.

Date: December 22, 2006 By: /s/ Glenn C. Christenson Glenn C. Christenson Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, Chief Administrative Officer and Treasurer

mdiederi
Dec 24, 2006, 7:03 AM
Rumour has it that Spanish View Towers is set to resume construction. Believe it when I see the crane moving.:haha:

Hate seeing stalled construction like that. Here's a link to the story in the press:
http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2006/12/22/news/iq_11551411.txt

Patrick
Dec 24, 2006, 6:29 PM
Turnberry Towers look great, the green glass is really nice! The only problem is those ugly elevator shafts!!

LMich
Dec 25, 2006, 1:44 AM
These EIFS facades are killing me. I know they are cheap, but they look cheap, too.

ScottG
Dec 25, 2006, 4:51 AM
what is eifs facades?

turnberry towers elevator shafts are now almost completely done being painted. it is weird, having a big white void from all the gree windows, but i still dont understand why they didnt bring the balconies around the shafts? why leave that space empty and unusable?

also, i dont know when, or how but the roller coaster on the strat is now completly gone! you can see it in the above picture, i dont get how they took it down without a helicopter or crane...?

lately allure is topped out! the crown skeleton is done. it looks nice.....and real change in the skyline.

GeorgeLV
Dec 25, 2006, 6:09 AM
^^ Scott, the roller coaster on the Strat was taken down a while ago, and I'm almost positive it was by helicopter. IIRC, the reason it was removed was so a night club space could be added to the tower.

LMich
Dec 25, 2006, 7:07 AM
When they'd take down the Higher Roller?!

EIFS is Exterior Insulation and Finish Systems, which is a mult-layered exterior wall system that consists of an insulation board, a base coast which is painted onto the insulation board and usually reinforced with fiberglass mesh, and lastly a finish coat that is painted to look like a certain type of stone material.

http://www.eima.com/images/drawing2.gif

As for why they didn't do anything with the elevator cores/towers it's really as simple as cutting costs.

jazfingr
Dec 25, 2006, 8:48 AM
Happy Holidays folks,

EIFS has been a pet peeve of mine for several years now. You can get up close to this crap at you local suburban strip mall. It usually resembles stucco, but it can look looe anything, brick, stone, you name it. It has seems filled with a flexible silicone. Most of the "reasonablly priced" track homes, and virtualy everything on the L V Strip is made from this stuff. For instance, most of the Venetian, inside and out, is all EFIS.

http://www.tlslabs.com/images/jobsite_small/corner-small.jpg

LMich
Dec 25, 2006, 9:45 AM
Glad to see I'm not the only one that has a pet peeve when it comes to EIFS and GFRC (Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete). I'd even prefer they use stained, precast concrete, which is the lesser of two evils, IMO.

DIESELPOLO
Dec 26, 2006, 7:58 AM
Sullivan Square looks reeeal nice. and yes, it does look east coast-y, esp. washington DC-ish. ...............go eagles!

mdiederi
Dec 27, 2006, 1:38 AM
Planet Hollywood Towers site. Looks like they're ready to start drilling.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/ph1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/ph2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/ph3.jpg

SpeedyFarrar
Dec 27, 2006, 7:27 AM
Saw this at Rate Vegas, some details on the Tropicana's renovation plans:

http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2006/12/26/news/news_update/doc4591b8a81c595887019293.txt

mdiederi
Dec 27, 2006, 2:47 PM
Finally, news about the Maxim's plans ... and it's big.

MAXIM plans 3 towers.
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0200399.htm
Tower A 732 feet, Tower B 625 feet, Tower C 675 feet.
Total 300 hotel rooms and 1,860 condos and 175,000 square feet of casino, restaurants, retail, lounge/bars and other public areas.

mdiederi
Dec 27, 2006, 2:50 PM
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0200184.htm
Another Asian themed hotel tower proposed for China town on the northeast corner of Spring Mt. and Valley View. 1,195 hotel rooms in a 331 foot tower with pagoda style roofs.

mdiederi
Dec 27, 2006, 5:18 PM
lately allure is topped out! the crown skeleton is done. it looks nice.....and real change in the skyline.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/a.jpg

Patrick
Dec 27, 2006, 7:17 PM
Awsome, will look even better when the glass is put in on the upper floors.