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MsuMix
Mar 16, 2007, 5:01 AM
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2720/ccgi5.jpg
great shot here.

also, any pics of the new Aladdin would be greatly appreciated.:tup:

and MsuMix, if you dont mind me asking, whats a skymat?

I can get some Aladdin shots tomorrow.. a Skymat or Transmat is basically the footprint of a tower (Pelli Tower at CC has a 12' mat on grade) Cosmo towers will have their 6' mat poured suspended in the air on top of the existing steel framing supports.

Cosmo probably isn't the first underground garage in vegas however it is the deepest building on the strip, we've excavated 24 million CY of dirt resulting in 45 acres of usable space below street level ,not to mention the first slurry wall in the state of nevada.

I know design of CC and Cosmo has been ongoing since 2005 and CC's initial renderings look verry different from what we see now. Cosmo didn't change a whole lot, mainly the east tower got bigger and more square. Maybe I'll tell you guys some more cool stuff about Cosmo later haha

Vegas Grows Up
Mar 16, 2007, 6:35 AM
A shot of The Stardust in Rubble

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7018/monorail6ef4.jpg

Vegas Grows Up
Mar 16, 2007, 6:36 AM
I went by CityCenter site yesterday 3/14/07 and snapped these shots. Enjoy!

Pillars for the monorail well into place! They look about 50-100 feet high so the monorail will be up there. Notice Veer West Tower to right of pillars.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/961/monorail2ty3.jpg

A closeup of main resort casino. Notice the guy walking towards bottom. Does that column say 13? 13th floor? If so kind of cool pic I think showing history in the making. Glad I took it!

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9133/monorail3kz7.jpg

A backside shot of the main casino resort. Looking from behind Monte Carlo and facing North.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4632/monorail4fc2.jpg

Wow...Vdara is going up to 3rd floor already!

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5926/monorail5xc2.jpg

hotdog
Mar 16, 2007, 3:29 PM
Nice pictures, but isn't that too low to be the 13th floor?
That's an oversized floor.

BrianFey
Mar 16, 2007, 7:57 PM
Yeah, they are moving fast, but they're not quiet up to the 13th floor yet. I think they are pouring 10 or 11 now.

Vegas Grows Up
Mar 16, 2007, 8:31 PM
I know but now I am curious. What does that 13 stand for? Or is it not a 13 at all but just looks like it?

mdiederi
Mar 16, 2007, 8:39 PM
They started clearing the Las Vegas Tower site, you know, the old Wet-n-Wild water park. Fontainebeau site in the background.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Las%20Vegas%20Tower/lvt2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Las%20Vegas%20Tower/LVT1.jpg

Looks like they're getting ready to assemble some construction offices too. They must be pretty confident about getting approval or why else would they be spending this money?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Las%20Vegas%20Tower/lvt3.jpg

justdefended
Mar 16, 2007, 9:30 PM
Thanks for the pictures Vegas Grows Up. CityCenter's progress is so amazing every time I see it. I can't believe it's being contructed so fast. And Vdara already on the third floor? Can't wait!!

Vegas Grows Up
Mar 16, 2007, 9:46 PM
Thanks for the pictures mdiederi. CityCenter's progress is so amazing every time I see it. I can't believe it's being contructed so fast. And Vdara already on the third floor? Can't wait!!

You mean thank you Vegas Grows Up :)

mdiederi
Mar 16, 2007, 10:05 PM
Good shots Vegas Grows up. :cheers:

You can also post those pictures in the dedicated CityCenter construction thread too, if you want.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=109405

It's such a big project it has a thread of its own. :cool:

banned
Mar 16, 2007, 11:50 PM
Wow, I went to Wet N' Wild 8 years ago. I had no idea that it was gone. I was in LV last summer and was considering going there which would have been interesting since it was gone.

TheOldMan
Mar 17, 2007, 1:49 AM
so can i assume Fountainbleu is fully under construction ? also, when will we know for sure about the Las Vegas Tower ?

mdiederi
Mar 17, 2007, 3:37 AM
They haven't started the Font's foundation yet, still drilling and digging (I think). Somebody said they heard somebody else say that they saw a sample of the glass cladding on the site.

Something's supposed to happen on Wednesday for the LVT.

BrianFey
Mar 17, 2007, 3:37 AM
I probably means column #13 or section 13? You are not crazy, its is a #13. Clearly. But to know what it means, I could only guess.

To everyone who takes the time to post pictures on here, I truly love them, really. I know many of you live in Vegas, and see this stuff every day, but many of us are thousands of miles away. Seeing these is my way of keeping up and seeing the action between trips. I know its a pain, and takes time, but Thank You So Much!!!

TheOldMan
Mar 17, 2007, 3:59 AM
They haven't started the Font's foundation yet, still drilling and digging (I think). Somebody said they heard somebody else say that they saw a sample of the glass cladding on the site.

Something's supposed to happen on Wednesday for the LVT.

thanx for the info. i hope LVT gets built. that would be incredible for the valley.

Daquan13
Mar 17, 2007, 4:07 AM
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/rossie_photos/rock%20wax%20work/vegas/Picture201.jpg

That is a photo I took of the city center model last month in the Mirage with Monte Carlo not looking too small in comparison



Will all of this be built at once or will it be done in stages like the planned World Trade Center in New York?

BrandonJXN
Mar 17, 2007, 4:16 AM
Will all of this be built at once or will it be done in stages like the planned World Trade Center in New York?

All of City Center will be built all at once.

Vegas Grows Up
Mar 17, 2007, 5:12 AM
Good shots Vegas Grows up. :cheers:

You can also post those pictures in the dedicated CityCenter construction thread too, if you want.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=109405

It's such a big project it has a thread of its own. :cool:

Thank you mdiederi.

I probably means column #13 or section 13? You are not crazy, its is a #13. Clearly. But to know what it means, I could only guess.

To everyone who takes the time to post pictures on here, I truly love them, really. I know many of you live in Vegas, and see this stuff every day, but many of us are thousands of miles away. Seeing these is my way of keeping up and seeing the action between trips. I know its a pain, and takes time, but Thank You So Much!!!

You are very welcome. All of us here LOVE Vegas and it is a pleasure to share!

MsuMix
Mar 17, 2007, 5:18 AM
They started clearing the Las Vegas Tower site, you know, the old Wet-n-Wild water park. Fontainebeau site in the background.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Las%20Vegas%20Tower/lvt2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Las%20Vegas%20Tower/LVT1.jpg

Looks like they're getting ready to assemble some construction offices too. They must be pretty confident about getting approval or why else would they be spending this money?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Las%20Vegas%20Tower/lvt3.jpg

So Las Vegas Tower is a for sure GO??!

mdiederi
Mar 17, 2007, 5:35 AM
Don't really know for sure yet, but they sure are acting like it. It's on the county planning agenda for this Wednesday.

LMich
Mar 17, 2007, 5:36 AM
Well, nothing is ever a sure go until steel starts rising, but it's definitely moving ahead at full steam.

MsuMix
Mar 17, 2007, 8:48 AM
great, i hope it goes without a hitch.. i wonder who the general contractor is

Hans Gruber
Mar 17, 2007, 9:49 AM
How many hours per day does construction last on both city Center and Cosmo. Are they working 12 hour days or more? Casino's are usually going up on the strip, not condos. This is very exciting to see.

I still remember how fast they built the Paris and Allladin. The construction crews in Las Vegas are world class and extremely fast.

lfc4life
Mar 17, 2007, 11:11 AM
Will all of this be built at once or will it be done in stages like the planned World Trade Center in New York?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/rossie_photos/rock%20wax%20work/vegas/Picture201.jpg

All of the buildings with lights in that photo are currently under construction except one of the towers which will start as soon as they clear the space.

Remember this is only phase 1 of the project; phases 2 and 3 will consist of condos behind this site and behind both Monte Carlo and New York New York hotels too. The scale of this place puts projects like Freedom tower to shame actually.

Phase 1 is expected to open in 2009 with Phase 3 finishing up sometime in 2010

Daquan13
Mar 17, 2007, 11:46 AM
Wth all that construction going on there all at one time, it's a wonder people are still able to get a hotel room that's reasonably priced!

lfc4life
Mar 17, 2007, 12:07 PM
Wth all that construction going on there all at one time, it's a wonder people are still able to get a hotel room that's reasonably priced!

There are still quite a number of reasonably priced hotels in Las Vegas including all of downtown hotels like plaza, Fitzgeralds, Golden Nugget, El Cortez, Main Street Station, Four Queens, Fremont etc usually at $40 a night during the week with Golden Nugget at about $80 but well well worth every penny :tup:

Gold Coast, Orleans, South Point, Tropicana, Riviera, Sahara, Circus Circus, Stratosphere, Imperial Palace etc on or near the Strip can all be got for less than $80 a night during the week.

justdefended
Mar 17, 2007, 5:30 PM
How many hours per day does construction last on both city Center and Cosmo. Are they working 12 hour days or more? Casino's are usually going up on the strip, not condos. This is very exciting to see.

I still remember how fast they built the Paris and Allladin. The construction crews in Las Vegas are world class and extremely fast.

A CityCenter sales rep said that the project is being worked on 24/7. From the rate that all the buildings are going up it wouldn't surprise me!

On another note, the official Vdara brochure says that the final building exterior will incorporate three sliding sheets of curved volumes and will feature high-performance vision glass designed to absorb sunlight. Also, the structure will be protected by an aluminum and glass curtain wall to counteract the desert climate.

Is this standard in most Vegas buildings or something unique to the project?

JonVegas
Mar 19, 2007, 9:10 AM
Well, nothing is ever a sure go until steel starts rising, but it's definitely moving ahead at full steam.

I'm going to second our resident pessimist and say don't get too excited yet.

I am a little saddened to see Wet n' Wild finally cleared away. I'll miss it.

VegasMatt
Mar 19, 2007, 10:23 AM
A bit more info on Las Vegas Wet can be found here:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/3/prweb511240.htm

" The 200+ acres being acquired by Las Vegas WET is slightly larger than all of the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim, including both theme parks, all the hotels, retail, and parking combined. "

Vegas Grows Up
Mar 19, 2007, 1:52 PM
Wow this WET project is really looking like it will kick some major ass! AWESOME.

mdiederi
Mar 19, 2007, 2:15 PM
They started installing the glass curtain wall facade on Encore.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Encore/e2-2.jpg

Big Sands
Mar 19, 2007, 9:34 PM
Slatin Report says that rumours indicate that Ruffin is going to sell the Frontier to Elad Properties (owners of The Plaza in New York).

If that turns out to be true, then that part of the north strip is really going to morph into the high rent district. There is no way they would attempt anything as mid-market as Montreux.

future29
Mar 19, 2007, 10:25 PM
^^^are we even sure that Echelon is going to be high class? there will always be the Riveria and Circus Circus up in the north strip (the past two years has proven that Riveria will not get bought out and fixed any time soon), so there will still be room for bargain hunters there.

mdiederi
Mar 19, 2007, 10:48 PM
:previous: Echelon will be the same class as the Borgata in Atlantic City, except with the addition of three high class boutique hotels.

NYC2ATX
Mar 20, 2007, 12:01 AM
On another note, the official Vdara brochure says that the final building exterior will incorporate three sliding sheets of curved volumes and will feature high-performance vision glass designed to absorb sunlight. Also, the structure will be protected by an aluminum and glass curtain wall to counteract the desert climate.

Is this standard in most Vegas buildings or something unique to the project?

definitely unique to this project, at least in Vegas anyway. All of the City Center's building tout "green" features such as the ones you listed above. It is almost like another amenity :haha:. That's big in their marketing strategy.

justdefended
Mar 20, 2007, 5:02 AM
definitely unique to this project, at least in Vegas anyway. All of the City Center's building tout "green" features such as the ones you listed above. It is almost like another amenity :haha:. That's big in their marketing strategy.

Thanks StatenIslander237. Great to know that it is a real distinct feature :)
LEED certification will be impressive for a project that massive.

Maybe CityCenter will appeal to green buyers, right before they stroll into valet parking in their stretch Hummer limo.

philip
Mar 20, 2007, 6:07 AM
^ :haha:

mdiederi
Mar 20, 2007, 4:42 PM
Slatin Report says that rumours indicate that Ruffin is going to sell the Frontier to Elad Properties (owners of The Plaza in New York).

If that turns out to be true, then that part of the north strip is really going to morph into the high rent district. There is no way they would attempt anything as mid-market as Montreux.

Here's the link to that report about the New Frontier being sold (http://www.theslatinreport.com/story.jsp?StoryName=0319frontier.txt) for as much as $1.5 billion for the 38.5-acre site. That's Almost $$$40 MILLION PER ACRE $$$. (Although, it's not confirmed yet.)

VegasMatt
Mar 20, 2007, 4:56 PM
Here are some more details and pictures of Encore here:

http://www.vegastripping.com/features/feature.php?feature_id=107&page=1

http://www.vegastripping.com/images/feature_encore_floorplan.jpg

shadowbat
Mar 21, 2007, 8:07 AM
Thanks for that link!
The Encore tower looks like it's going full steam!:tup:

BruceH
Mar 22, 2007, 3:38 AM
A bit more info on Las Vegas Wet can be found here:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/3/prweb511240.htm

" The 200+ acres being acquired by Las Vegas WET is slightly larger than all of the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim, including both theme parks, all the hotels, retail, and parking combined. "
My bad - LV Wet I thought was Wet and Wild so I deleted my original post. Why can't they call these projects something different than names we already know?

BruceH
Mar 22, 2007, 3:41 AM
So Las Vegas Tower is a for sure GO??! It's not a go yet. May 2 is Zoning Commission meeting for this project. FAA approval is one of several requirements needed. The County is requiring many significant projects now to clear the land prior to being given use permits. Helps reduce land flipping purchases as the buyer of the property has to spend money to get it ready.

BruceH
Mar 22, 2007, 3:48 AM
There are still quite a number of reasonably priced hotels in Las Vegas including all of downtown hotels like plaza, Fitzgeralds, Golden Nugget, El Cortez, Main Street Station, Four Queens, Fremont etc usually at $40 a night during the week with Golden Nugget at about $80 but well well worth every penny :tup:

Gold Coast, Orleans, South Point, Tropicana, Riviera, Sahara, Circus Circus, Stratosphere, Imperial Palace etc on or near the Strip can all be got for less than $80 a night during the week. Prices will change in the future for Tropicana as they were reviewed by the County Zoning Commission to do a lot of construction including building additional towers. High rises are now added. Got approval. Sahara is changing hands and its new owner is well known in Beverly Hills; won't be an inexpensive hotel for long. North Strip is red hot for ultra luxury given all the of the new projects and purchases of existing ones. With the Frontier rumors and estimates of North Strip land being worth $40 million an acre, will be great to see all of the changes coming. Don't count on Circus Circus sitting too long. It may very well become City Center II as it has sufficient acreage to do it.

MsuMix
Mar 22, 2007, 6:12 AM
It's not a go yet. May 2 is Zoning Commission meeting for this project. FAA approval is one of several requirements needed. The County is requiring many significant projects now to clear the land prior to being given use permits. Helps reduce land flipping purchases as the buyer of the property has to spend money to get it ready.

ahhh.. makes sense, thanks for the info

MsuMix
Mar 22, 2007, 6:35 AM
some pics...

West side of CityCenter starting to really take off
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2171/img0126qe6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cosmo - West Tower Mat and Core backfilled and ready for steel
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7914/img0123te8.jpg

North side of Pelli Tower
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1055/img0122fc2.jpg

PLANET HOLLYWOOD
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1420/img0124at5.jpg

Panorama Tower 2 almost done, going to be 4 identical towers in this complex when complete
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9527/img0064jh9.jpg

and Queensridge for you summerlin junkies:shrug:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3380/img0099tr4.jpg

LMich
Mar 22, 2007, 6:39 AM
Actually, towers 3 and 4 are going to be significantly different in look than towers 1 and 2 of Panorama Towers.

MsuMix
Mar 22, 2007, 6:43 AM
other than orientation how so

jazfingr
Mar 22, 2007, 6:56 AM
:previous:

Take a look at the renderings here (http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/panorama.htm)

BTW, thanks for the great photos.
:tup:

peacefu603
Mar 22, 2007, 6:59 AM
So good!

NYC2ATX
Mar 22, 2007, 1:43 PM
Cosmo - West Tower Mat and Core backfilled and ready for steel
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7914/img0123te8.jpg


HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers:

DMaldon762
Mar 22, 2007, 1:58 PM
Any Pictures of the new pool at Excalibur?

philip
Mar 22, 2007, 6:59 PM
Panorama will have a panoramic view of City Center's butt. :haha:

VegasMatt
Mar 22, 2007, 9:06 PM
This website can be useful when trying to find info about projects..

http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/lasvegas/index.html

Enjoy!

VegasMatt
Mar 22, 2007, 9:14 PM
Here's a nice image of the Gateway project I found atthe website above.

You can find out more about it here:

http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06027.html


http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06027_02.jpg

future29
Mar 22, 2007, 9:36 PM
:previous: found another interesting thing on that site...

City Center automated peole mover
http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06018_02.jpg

http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06018.html

Hans Gruber
Mar 22, 2007, 10:14 PM
Anybody have a prediction as to when the Vegas strip will stretch out to the stratosphere? Imagine all casino's end to end without gaps all the way out to the stratosphere. Is 20 years too long? Maybe 15 years?

mdiederi
Mar 23, 2007, 12:03 AM
:previous: The only available completely empty gap left is the southwest corner of Las Vegas Blvd and Sahara, and from there to the Strat is just a gift shop, a tattoo parlor and a motel. Of course there are also some other crappy old places along the north Strip, and some cheapo strip-malls that need to be replaced. I don't think anybody will put a resort next to the Strat (only thing ever proposed near there was Stupak's Titanic folly), but there may be more condo towers up there as they clean up that neighborhood. Carl Icahn has the Strat up for sale, by the way, so he's probably not going to do the expansion they were talking about. Oh wait a minute, there is a plan that some investors have to group a bunch of land owners north of the Strat along the railroad tracks and sell that as a potential resort site. But in twenty years anything can happen. In that time resorts will probably be lined up all the way down to the new airport in Ivanpah. South of McCarran airport holds incredible potential for condo and resort development along the boulevard and I-15.

mdiederi
Mar 23, 2007, 12:08 AM
Thanks for those shots inside the site MsuMix. Don't get to see from that angle very often. :cheers: The Pelli tower really looks different from that one angle.

Hey, it looks like the core is above the top of the hole now. When are you guys going to install those tower cranes on Cosmo?

lfc4life
Mar 23, 2007, 12:17 AM
If LVT gets the go ahead it could be as soon as 10-15 years imo. Just walking up the north strip from Stardust to Stratosphere in February made me realise how sparse that part of the strip actually is. Litter, weeds and the lack of people is such a far cry from what we have less than 2 miles south. I dare say it but Fremont Street is looking in alot better shape than the north strip at present :shrug:

Wouldn't it be fantastic to see the north strip thriving like the mid-strip is today in a few years. Hopefully LVT, Echelon Place, Fontainebleau will be the calling cards for others to build up here and to generally clean up the whole immediate area from north of Riveria right up to the Stratosphere.

NYC2ATX
Mar 23, 2007, 12:33 AM
Any Pictures of the new pool at Excalibur?

There's something new at the Excalibur? Get out! :) :haha:

Here's a nice image of the Gateway project I found atthe website above.

You can find out more about it here:

http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06027.html


http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06027_02.jpg

WHOAAA!!! Where is this?! I thought I was in a New York thread for a sec!
LOVE IT!!!

mdiederi
Mar 23, 2007, 12:42 AM
Gateway is on the northwest corner of Las Vegas boulevard and Charleston boulevard.

VegasMatt
Mar 23, 2007, 12:59 AM
:previous: found another interesting thing on that site...

City Center automated peole mover
http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06018_02.jpg

http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06018.html

I missed that image.

Nice find, it looks incredible. Thanks!

Regarding the image on the link -
I find it strange the people mover doesn't travel further.

BruceH
Mar 23, 2007, 1:09 AM
Here's a nice image of the Gateway project I found atthe website above.

You can find out more about it here:

http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06027.html


http://www.library.unlv.edu/arch/aia/awa2006/ub06027_02.jpg Nice image. Haven't heard anything on this project for a very long time. Is it ever going to be built?

Patrick
Mar 23, 2007, 1:42 AM
PLANET HOLLYWOOD
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1420/img0124at5.jpg

Alladin was never a beauteful building, it was so disorted, uneven and has a cluttered, unorganized look. Yet I always loved it, but I'd have to say I LOVE the new paintjob ang logo atop the building.

The_Analyst
Mar 23, 2007, 3:55 AM
Planet Hollywood is shaping up to be somewhat bizarre but the apparent Times Square-like schizophrenic design along the strip may actually complement the variations in the tower. It's taking on a look that is odd but is not necessarily displeasing. Or, maybe it's just my sense of relief that they abandoned the blue paint job.:yuck:

MsuMix
Mar 23, 2007, 5:14 AM
Thanks for those shots inside the site MsuMix. Don't get to see from that angle very often. :cheers: The Pelli tower really looks different from that one angle.

Hey, it looks like the core is above the top of the hole now. When are you guys going to install those tower cranes on Cosmo?

No problem on the shots i'll have plenty more in the near future of CC/Cosmo and other stuff around them West Core is above grade, the East Tower Core first lift has been poured. All 5 tower cranes are in just not erected.. and I believe the 3 on the west side are being erected in April. The first Box Column will be set on April 9th and its going to be a big ceremony, gold plated anchor bolts and all.

Vtown420
Mar 23, 2007, 5:24 AM
Some pics from the last couple weeks.

Don't worry, I wasn't driving.
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1937/img7499copyfr5.jpg
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future29
Mar 23, 2007, 5:24 AM
Wouldn't it be fantastic to see the north strip thriving like the mid-strip is today in a few years. Hopefully LVT, Echelon Place, Fontainebleau will be the calling cards for others to build up here and to generally clean up the whole immediate area from north of Riveria right up to the Stratosphere.

it will all get filled in eventually, and when it does its going to be a nightmare to traverse LV Blvd. basically visitors will basically be stuck in their hotels (something im sure the casinos dont mind) because it will be basically impossible to get anywhere along the strip with all the traffic.

and maybe one day Jean to LV will be seemless after the airport is built, but i say it would be a miracle if it gets built in 15 years time as suggested.

Vtown420
Mar 23, 2007, 5:29 AM
Some shots of our new and constantly improving skyline.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7474/untitled9copyjr1.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6398/march057jm5.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8236/untitled10copyfl9.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1113/untitled11copyol0.jpg
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/3064/pano1ru1.jpg

DracoCaifan
Mar 23, 2007, 7:25 AM
Excellent pics!!! WoW!!! Thanks for the updates!! I was waiting for photos like these!! Great job!!

LMich
Mar 23, 2007, 7:43 AM
It is SO weird to see One Queensridge from the Parkway. Seriously, I believed we'd never see any legitimate high-rises in Summerlin. I was wrong. lol

Hans Gruber
Mar 23, 2007, 10:42 AM
Due to the massive size of these mega resorts on the strip, one must walk just a couple miles to realize how massive the Vegas strip really is. I still marvel at every new creation each year in Vegas. I've never seen architecture built as fast as the building in Las Vegas. In Seattle, tall buildinga are topped off usually before most glass and exterior fasade in added to buildings. In Las Vegas, as the pictures show, the lower half of hotel exteriors are complete before the hotel tower is topped off. One of the recent photos illustrates this technique.

I refer to Vegas as the city of lost souls. I have realized with all the excess, Vegas has architectural beauty and lots of it. It's a city I say I will never return to and always end up coming back quite regularly.

mdiederi
Mar 23, 2007, 9:33 PM
News on Club Renaissance in the RJ (http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2007/Mar-23-Fri-2007/business/13327855.html)

justdefended
Mar 24, 2007, 12:48 AM
The official CityCenter website now has a live construction camera that's updated every 30 minutes.

It's facing the main CityCenter resort casino and Vdara. Very nice!

http://citycenter.com/development/webcam.aspx

LMich
Mar 24, 2007, 2:04 AM
News on Club Renaissance in the RJ (http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2007/Mar-23-Fri-2007/business/13327855.html)

Can someone explain exactly happened to Renaissance, here? I'm really not savy when it comes to the business aspect of development. I read the article and came out of it being more confused. lol Did the Los Angeles party become the new owners of the project, or just additional owners?

Patrick
Mar 24, 2007, 5:22 AM
Great, Club Ren bailed out and played safe :( Ugh I LOVED the design.

mdiederi
Mar 24, 2007, 5:26 AM
There are some new Echelon renderings in this Boyd investor presentation pdf (http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/95/957/95703/items/236864/Boyd_IP032207.pdf) (you have to scroll down a few pages).

Vtown420
Mar 24, 2007, 5:51 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Las%20Vegas%20Tower/lvt2.jpg


Are they just burying the wave pool and the lazy river?

Steven C.
Mar 24, 2007, 6:05 AM
Has anyone else noticed that the McDonalds on LV Blvd is shown in the wrong location on these plans? They're showing it where the Westward Ho's casino was.


That is exactly where it WILL be. They are building a new resturaunt in june, then closing the existing.

Boyd gave them that option to see that they have a continual space to build the echelon resort, without having to work around the current mcdonalds.

If you see the plans for the new mcdonalds, it makes sense. They promise a renovation, but the plans make it look better than some casinos on the strip!

Steven C.
Mar 24, 2007, 6:08 AM
There are some new Echelon renderings in this Boyd investor presentation pdf (http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/95/957/95703/items/236864/Boyd_IP032207.pdf) (you have to scroll down a few pages).

anyone else a little dissapointed they are going to rename stardust road to "echelon resort drive"?

At least keep a bit of history like the wynn and venetian did... keep the streets the same name

VegasMatt
Mar 24, 2007, 6:13 AM
If you see the plans for the new mcdonalds, it makes sense. They promise a renovation, but the plans make it look better than some casinos on the strip!

Where can we see the plans????

Patrick
Mar 24, 2007, 6:14 AM
There are some new Echelon renderings in this Boyd investor presentation pdf (http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/95/957/95703/items/236864/Boyd_IP032207.pdf) (you have to scroll down a few pages).

Project CityCenter much? I'm very dissapointed, its nice but nothing new. Not impressed at the least. I agree, Echelon Resort Drive? wtf? I'm sorry but I expected much more, Hopefully they are just conceptual

Please excuse my language but,
Fuck Echeleon, Give me Stardust!!

lfc4life
Mar 24, 2007, 9:54 AM
anyone else a little dissapointed they are going to rename stardust road to "echelon resort drive"?

At least keep a bit of history like the wynn and venetian did... keep the streets the same name

Not impressed at all. Can I be the first to say; Boyd knocked the Stardust tower for THAT :( As someone here said the old Stardust tower should have been incorporated into the new design.

Echelon Resort Drive :yuck:

future29
Mar 24, 2007, 11:56 AM
i actually like the Echelon tower design. the thing i do not like is the strip frontage there. it seems like they could care less about presenting their casino along LV Blvd. the towers are facing perpendicular and there is a big parking lot on half of their land adjacent to the strip. it looks very underwhelming at this point. it does not look attractive to people coming along the strip and may actually detract visitors away because it is not a welcoming atmosphere. hopefully this changes with phase 2.

also, would love to see the McDonalds plans for their new, "better than a casino," building next to Echelon.

mdiederi
Mar 24, 2007, 3:53 PM
I'm sure the inside will be nice, but the outside looks drab. The main tower at Echelon looks like there are no windows on the ends of the tower so that means that the way it is positioned they will have a giant solid shaft facing the main entrance on the strip. Very bad Feng shui! The Mondrian and Delano look like boring office buildings. Shangri La looks like an afterthought stuck on the back of the main tower with a great view of Circus Circus and the loading dock and no view of the strip at all, is that really where you want to put your high-rollers? Also looks like you are going to have to walk a mile from the parking garage to the casino.

hotdog
Mar 24, 2007, 4:02 PM
The curved Echelon tower is nice, and I can't blame them for rotating that building such, to block the view of Circus Circus and other properties they don't own. And the parking lot along LV blvd is just temporary. But those two small buildings to the south are boring (at least in that picture) and should be rotated so that they screen the parking garage more (put them towards the west of those pools).

gmcclenon
Mar 24, 2007, 4:39 PM
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i actually like the Echelon tower design. the thing i do not like is the strip frontage there. it seems like they could care less about presenting their casino along LV Blvd. the towers are facing perpendicular and there is a big parking lot on half of their land adjacent to the strip. it looks very underwhelming at this point. it does not look attractive to people coming along the strip and may actually detract visitors away because it is not a welcoming atmosphere. hopefully this changes with phase 2.


:previous:

Yeah! What is up with that? Why couldn't they put up an interesting water feature or just landscaping along the strip? But an access road and a parking lot for all of us to look at while walking down the street? Why wrap it so far around? Guess they're not expecting much foot traffic from the north. That is short sighted. Like you said, maybe they figure on spending the money on phase 2 after all the new developments are in to the north. Guess that means we'll have 6 or 7 years of looking at that parking lot.

ScottG
Mar 24, 2007, 5:06 PM
we were under the impression echelon would be like city center- its the same size/bigger and costs just as much...but how? there are 2 highrises that look like walls and 1 mid rise that looks like the stardust. sure that could be phase 1 considering half the site is level parking but still theres no aw moments here.....UNLESS...

like ANY project the first renderings look nothing like the final result.....pray

ScottG
Mar 24, 2007, 5:09 PM
PATRICK wated no time making a diagram for echelon, but i must say he's making the tower look nice. maybe i spoke too soon (above) i may like that tower better than city cente's main tower (ok maybe not)

and echelon updated their website---i think, but no renderings i could find.

good job pat!

VegasMatt
Mar 24, 2007, 6:12 PM
Great job, with the rendering Pat!

I have to agree with the board here with the consonance about the Strip frontage here. WTF. I hope they have a better plan than a parking lot up front, that they aren’t showing yet.

However, I think people are being overly harsh on the main tower, other than the odd positioning I don’t think it looks bad. The tower will be huge, and it has some serious height. They could’ve done a lot worse with it. That being said I have to agree again with the community about the smaller towers. Very office like, and I highly prefer fantastical designs with resorts. This was same criticism with CityCenter. Don’t get me wrong, I love the CityCenter project and it’s a minor criticism.

None the less, everyone should be happy the north end is getting some much-needed attention.

I guess, overall, I’m just relieved it’s no Boratoga monstrosity.

ScottG
Mar 24, 2007, 6:22 PM
its funny how the newest proposal is the tallest...again. vegastat has a good picture showing wynn the tallest, then trump taller, then palazzo, taller, and encore becoming the tallest (something like that)

basically each new project comes out taller the the previous. now echelon is winning that race.

i find it funy that the amin tower is facing north south and not the strip. why? because across the strip is a small shopping center...a denny's. nothing to look at. citycenter had the same issue. across the strip is the very successful (sarcasm) hawaiin market place. so what did mgm do? they built their own views and placed 4 towers in front for everyone to look at.

NYC2ATX
Mar 24, 2007, 6:55 PM
I'm not so impressed by Echelon either. It does seem like a citycenter knock-off, and it also seems like citycenter put more thought into their complex. Major architects, green designs, a "city" within itself. Echelon just seems like more hotel rooms after that. As it progresses though, we may hear more pros to these cons, hopefully.

jazfingr
Mar 24, 2007, 7:27 PM
I must agree with most of you about the overall design of Echelon Place being shortsighted.

Take the center-strip area in front of Harrah's/Ip/Flamingo. The casinos are close to the street, and the street is alive with folks having fun. Now, go across the street to Caesars. Nothing there is strip close, the peds are just walking (not having fun). Caesars is fixing this by filling the waist of space on the south corner, with a casino and shops.

You would think Boyd would realize that the north strip will someday be alive with foot traffic. Especially with Fontainebleau under-way and Sahara being reinvented. Maybe I'm just bitter because I miss the Stardust...naw, it is a bad plan.

The main resort tower is OK looking, the Shangra La is stupid (location and view-wise. The only strip-close entrance is another Fu**$ng mall. and the parking is too far from the casino. The other hotel towers look corporate now, but may look good as the renderings become more mature. The surface parking lot will become phase-two, but who wants to bet it will be a residential element and have no public access or casino.

It seems Boyd Gaming is full of yes-men who agree to anything without contest or logical thought. :shrug:

philip
Mar 24, 2007, 8:07 PM
I kind of knew Echelon will a watered-down version of City Center as I said on this board before, but I didn't know it will be this bad.

I wonder why Shangri-la would ever accept a location like that. It's right on the butt crack of the Echelon's Main towers, in the back where nobody will ever see it (as most people approach from the south). In the future, if they do build more towers along LV Blvd (Phase 2), it will completely block the view of the Shangri-la and Shangri-la hotel guests will stuck in the shadow of the neighboring towers with absolutely the worst view you can find in the city.

On the other hand, the mandarin Oriental was given a prime real estate out in the front of the city center. No wonder their multi-million-dollar condos were sold out in 2 weeks.

Architecture designs are paramount for the success of a casino, PERIOD. Look at Aladdin. The only reason why it failed was the bad design, inside and out. Echelon better finds a good architect to work on the facade; otherwise, this place will become Aladdin 2 and go bankrupt soon after its completion.

Patrick
Mar 24, 2007, 9:41 PM
PATRICK wated no time making a diagram for echelon, but i must say he's making the tower look nice. good job pat!

Really?? I hate the diagram, it turned out so undetailed. I tried everything but I still dont like it, oh well.

The_Analyst
Mar 24, 2007, 11:49 PM
Can someone explain exactly happened to Renaissance, here? I'm really not savy when it comes to the business aspect of development. I read the article and came out of it being more confused. lol Did the Los Angeles party become the new owners of the project, or just additional owners?

The article is a little short on exact details but it appears that this architect is taking an ownership interest in the property. It's possible that they did some design/engineering work for the developer and were owed money. Since the developer couldn't pay them, they put a lien on the development. Now it appears the developer cannot pay the lien and so the lienholder (the architects) is taking over the property. Since the architects were owed less than the full property value, they basically are buying out the project for the difference between what they were owed and the value of the property. It also indicates that the developer owed the original landowner who has agreed to extend the terms of the land sale to allow the development to reorganize (in which case they will likely seek new financing for a scaled down project that may be more attractive to lenders).

The_Analyst
Mar 24, 2007, 11:53 PM
I hate to bring this up, but the "Las Vegas Boom" graphic on page 1 now features two completely dead projects (Club Ren and 888) and one nearly so (LV Central). It may be time to update that. ;)

justdefended
Mar 25, 2007, 12:07 AM
The building blocks of Echelon really need to be moved around. I can see how they want the project to face the South to invite people toward the property and generate North and South views for the main resort, but once visitors walk there they'll be face to face with an uninviting tiny corner parcel of land and a roadway access street.

It also looks like it'll take forever to get to the main resort from the corner entrance. The non-gaming boutique hotels have direct street access for pedestrians, but don't need it since most will want to head to the main resort.

Compare this to CityCenter where the retail and entertainment district, boutique hotels, and main resort have direct street and pedestrian access.

Next Aladdin here we come!

philip
Mar 25, 2007, 1:00 AM
Next Aladdin here we come!Exactly, sad to see a project to go bust, especially when billions of dollars are being spent.

But this time there will be no buyer for Echelon when it goes bankrupt, since the orientation of the buildings are so awful, they may have to demolish the whole complex to start over. On the other hand, the Aladdin building has a good orientation so only cosmetic changes are needed to fix the resort.

philip
Mar 25, 2007, 1:05 AM
PATRICK wated no time making a diagram for echelon, but i must say he's making the tower look nice. good job pat!
[QUOTE=Patrick;2715129]Really?? I hate the diagram, it turned out so undetailed. I tried everything but I still dont like it, oh well.
Even after beautifying the design, Patrick still doesn't like it. A testimony to how awful the real design must be.