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Roasty
06-16-2007, 10:16 PM
Without scrolling back thru all the old posts, what has been shown of this project ?

mdiederi
06-16-2007, 11:04 PM
They have a website. http://www.lasvegaswet.com/

jazfingr
06-16-2007, 11:36 PM
Without scrolling back thru all the old posts, what has been shown of this project ?


I you mean Fontainebleau you can see it here:

http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/fontainebleau.htm

:)

mdiederi
06-17-2007, 03:40 AM
or here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=460983

mdiederi
06-17-2007, 06:07 PM
http://www.lvrj.com/business/8040372.html
The RJ says that Streamline Tower is topped out, downtown.
Also says that StanHi is poised to break ground real soon.

bluejudad
06-18-2007, 12:14 AM
http://www.lvrj.com/business/8040372.html
The RJ says that Streamline Tower is topped out, downtown.
Also says that StanHi is poised to break ground real soon.

That little villiage area composed of Juhl, Soho, Newport and now Stanhi is going to be something special. There is also talk of something called Factory Lofts across the street from the Stanhi Site (www.stanhi.com/stanhi.html.)

Vegas Grows Up
06-18-2007, 09:11 AM
I have uploaded a new lens on Squidoo that has 10 new pictures of Cosmo as it gobbles up the Jockey Club! I could not believe the noise and that people could stand being out by the pool. Well there were only 2 people actually. I also have uploaded a video of the noise.

See the 10 pictures at my Cosmopolitan Resort Casino (http://www.squidoo.com/cosmopolitanresort/) lens on Squidoo

See the video at my You Tube Channel Cosmo LV (http://www.youtube.com/vegascondoscene) Video

An example of the types of photos I was able to get

http://item.slide.com/r/1/30/i/mf3K1BN_4j8H75a4jKkPXYc_Wh3Y-L4N/

Patrick
06-18-2007, 10:10 AM
Holy Shit! Cosmopolitan just rose out of nowhere. I cant belive the Jockey Club wasnt demolished, seriously, who would want a view of a WALL!?!?!

jazfingr
06-18-2007, 11:01 AM
:previous:

The Jockey Club is owned by over 21,000 people, 400+ rooms X 52 weeks.
The logistics of buying them all would be staggering. You also have to figure in the many NIBBY's that would hold out for more. The cost and time involved would make any developer walk away. :(

jazfingr
06-18-2007, 11:02 AM
:previous:
:previous:

Cool stuff Aaron, thanks for all the work on this :tup:

lfc4life
06-18-2007, 03:38 PM
Cosmo is fairly springing to life :tup:

Any word on when Echelon will break ground?? i guess it must be soon.

williasj
06-18-2007, 09:54 PM
I just heard on the news that Echelon Place officially breaks ground tomorrow.

Red UM Rebel
06-18-2007, 11:48 PM
Hey Vegas Grows Up thanks for the pictures!

Even if the Jockey Club was owned by 100,000 people you would think staring at a wall would be terrible. Also, what will the Cosmo have there? Will people at the Cosmo get a nice view of the wall too?

mdiederi
06-19-2007, 12:32 AM
I just heard on the news that Echelon Place officially breaks ground tomorrow.
Awesome. I shot a picture of the site last week and they already started digging a big hole.

mdiederi
06-19-2007, 12:34 AM
Will people at the Cosmo get a nice view of the wall too?
I think the Cosmo's podium goes all the way up to the top of the Jockey.

jazfingr
06-19-2007, 01:28 AM
I think the Cosmo's podium goes all the way up to the top of the Jockey.

Cosmo's podium does indeed go to the top of Jockey. There will be no windows there. The upper floors will house conference and meeting rooms and the lower floors will be mall and casino. All these floors will have high ceilings.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/455769085_0873add2fa_o.jpg

Vegas Grows Up
06-19-2007, 06:53 AM
Jazfingr and I recenetly put together a blog called "30 Billion in 3 Miles but 60 is Possible"

We list all of the current projects and ones that are very likely to begin soon. The number comes to 32 billion between Tropicana to Sahara.

We also give a rough idea what may be coming in near future and that came to another 30 billion or so.

Add 20 billion downtown and you have a possible 80 billion in construction by 2012.

See it at

Las Vegas Strip Construction (http://lasvegashighriseblog.com/aaronauxier/2007/06/17/las-vegas-strip-high-rise-living/)

mdiederi
06-20-2007, 01:15 AM
So it's official, Echelon has started. I heard there are new renders released today that they said hadn't been shown before, but I can't find them on the web yet.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2007/jun/19/061910044.html

mdiederi
06-20-2007, 02:52 AM
PULSE

AKA Neon

470 FOOT HEIGHT
40 FLOORS
1,500 RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM UNITS
1,600 TIME SHARE DEVELOPMENT UNITS
6,000 HOTEL ROOMS
22,000 SEAT PRIVATE SPORTS ARENA
1,235,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE
300,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESTRICTED GAMING SPACE

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/pulse/BirdsEye.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/pulse/Elevations1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/pulse/Elevations2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/pulse/Voltaic.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/pulse/Dimpled-Copper.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/pulse/site.jpg

hotdog
06-20-2007, 04:39 AM
I like that Pulse/Neon Lights design. It has elements similar to those seen in Red Rock Casino and the future Crystal Ridge development in the Henderson hillside, all of which blend into the copper colors of the desert.

justdefended
06-20-2007, 07:37 AM
Kerzner and MGM Mirage are in talks for a joint venture casino on the North Strip parcel on Sahara.

Kerzer and MGM will each own 50 percent of the new hotel casino, with MGM providing the land.

Also, the new venture is cooling Kerkorian's decision to purchase Bellagio and CityCenter.

Looks like the solid stock price that revalued MGM's assets and multiple land deals for the North parcel will keep the company's future profits nice and rosy.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118231018214741654.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

cosmo2k8
06-20-2007, 08:06 AM
Thanks justdefended.

This may very well be the third Atlantis project... Atlantis, Las Vegas!

:tup:

Silas
06-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Looks like North Strip is truly in play. I did not think MGM was real about developing CircusCircus area. But it appears they are very serious. Atlantis would be a great fit there. Three to five years out, the area will be looking great.

mdiederi
06-20-2007, 04:39 PM
Here's the full press release from MGM

PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
MGM MIRAGE AND KERZNER INTERNATIONAL
TO DEVELOP MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR LAS VEGAS RESORT

Las Vegas, Nevada and Paradise Island, Bahamas, June 20, 2007 - MGM MIRAGE (NYSE: MGM) and Kerzner International Holdings Limited (“Kerzner” or “Kerzner International”) announced today that the companies have entered into a letter of intent to form a 50/50 joint venture to develop a multi-billion dollar integrated resort property on the Las Vegas Strip. The parties plan to enter into immediate negotiations with a view to concluding a definitive agreement in the third quarter of 2007.

The new resort will be designed for approximately 40 of the 78 acres of land owned by MGM MIRAGE, located on the corner of Las Vegas Boulevard and Sahara Avenue. Kerzner will lead the planning and conceptualization of this project. The joint venture is expected to draw upon MGM MIRAGE’s substantial presence and experience in Las Vegas and Kerzner’s experience in developing and operating some of the world’s most recognized and successful destination resorts.

“We see this type of relationship as a major part of our company’s future,” said Terry Lanni, Chairman and CEO of MGM MIRAGE. “Our considerable real estate holdings, combined with our experience and efficiencies in developing major entertainment resort properties, are unmatched. We believe this joint venture could well serve as a model for similar transactions which we think could further enhance shareholder value by accelerating growth and conserving our capital, allowing us to pursue other growth opportunities and/or return excess capital to our shareholders.”

Sol Kerzner, Chairman and CEO of Kerzner International, observed: “We have studied the Las Vegas market for some time and believe this is an outstanding opportunity to create one of the most innovative and exciting destination resorts in the world. We are delighted to join forces with MGM MIRAGE.”

Under the terms of the agreement, MGM MIRAGE will provide the land for the resort and Kerzner International and one of its financial partners will provide cash equity, such that each party owns 50 percent of the project. The land being contributed by MGM MIRAGE is being valued at $20 million per acre. The new integrated resort complex is anticipated to be a multi-billion dollar project and will be financed through equity contributions and third-party debt financing.

The broad conceptual design direction of the new resort has been agreed by the parties and design and planning is expected to take approximately one year to complete. Upon completion of the design phase, both parties anticipate a three year construction period. The as-yet unnamed resort project may utilize existing brands owned by either MGM MIRAGE or Kerzner International, or a new brand will be introduced.

“This is an exciting opportunity for our company,” said Jim Murren, President, CFO and Treasurer of MGM MIRAGE. “This is a prime location in the heart of a rapidly developing area of the Las Vegas Strip. Partnering with a highly respected global resort operator on such a prime piece of Las Vegas real estate will certainly result in a spectacular project. This resort will further enhance the Las Vegas tourist experience and drive incremental visitors to the Strip. This development will further elevate the value of our surrounding land holdings and assets.”

lukemason
06-20-2007, 04:46 PM
Anyone got any new pictures of the Palazzo project/Tower ?

thank you :)

hotdog
06-20-2007, 05:05 PM
Here are some Echelon pictures.

http://starbulletin.com/2007/06/20/business/art3ax.jpg

http://starbulletin.com/2007/06/20/business/art3bx.jpg

mdiederi
06-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Anyone got any new pictures of the Palazzo project/Tower ?

thank you :)
Here's the Palazzo construction thread, it has four pages full of pictures.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=122282

Empire Builder
06-20-2007, 06:01 PM
is that brick on the facade of the main entrance to Echelon? Not sure if i'm digging that - the towers are beautiful if not somewhat "plain" - I'll give this project the benefit of the doubt that the renderings will do no justice to the final completed project.

mdiederi
06-20-2007, 07:07 PM
is that brick on the facade of the main entrance to Echelon? Not sure if i'm digging that -
Probably EIFS :slob:

Fido
06-20-2007, 08:04 PM
I don't like the Strip entrance. There's nothing special, just bricks, it's completely uninspired.
The tower looks good though. BTW, what's the blue thing between the "two wings" of the tower? Is it a waterfall ? Or something which look like a waterfall ? Or completely something else ?

Patrick
06-20-2007, 08:13 PM
I don't like the Strip entrance. There's nothing special, just bricks, it's completely uninspired.
The tower looks good though. BTW, what's the blue thing between the "two wings" of the tower? Is it a waterfall ? Or something which look like a waterfall ? Or completely something else ?

I like the entrace, sleek, modern, sexy. Oh and the Blue thing is the back of the Shang-La, stuck between the ass crack of the two towers, maybe that is a waterfall!? Tha'd be kool.

Other than the Echelon Entrance and possible Waterfall, the project is LAME. An un-inspired ripoff of CityCenter, all that anticipation only to be dissapointed by boring glass boxes.

mdiederi
06-20-2007, 09:45 PM
Although it is a concave shape that pulls your eye toward the center, the over all look of the corner entrance is drab, offish, intimidating and boring, sort of like a business park or a soulless bank building.

True Blue
06-20-2007, 10:48 PM
It’s now official; Kirk Kerkorian will NOT purchase the Bellagio and CityCenter. Too much money to be made on the North end of the strip after the announcement of the joint venture between MGM Mirage and Kerzner International Holdings Inc.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19334068

philip
06-20-2007, 11:25 PM
After seeing the Echelon rendering the 3rd time, I am really starting to like the design of the Stardust a lot more. I can live with the 2 main towers, but the black and white towers on the left just scream COMMIE-BLOCKS.

Actually, I think this project will become an Eyesore, just like the Aladdin.

nsxdrift_89
06-21-2007, 12:15 AM
The main entrace is actually quite bland, yes. However, it could be easily changed and made much more attractive or, at least, exciting. I know it's simple and it's been done quite often, but just turn it into a vid-wall (similar to the Miracle Mile Shops). It would, at least, create an enticing entrance to the resort and would provide that "wow" feature that it desperately needs, for first timers at least. Also, it would provide the resort with it's Strip signage. No longer would Boyd need to find some area on the Strip frontage to construct a large, uninventive sign, they could just use the vid-screen.

Red UM Rebel
06-21-2007, 01:52 AM
I have to say that I am sad that such a historic casino like Stardust (even though it wasn't an architectural wonder) is lost to this. I believe that CityCenter will be great in its own way, but I really hope the strip doesn't go to flowing glass and unthemed casinos.

It is also good to hear about the possible Atlantis Casino and good job MGM power play to keep its favorite projects. Thanks for this blog too, I am at beach and burned to a crisp so this is a nice distraction.

Vtown420
06-21-2007, 02:23 AM
Echelon - Delano Mondrian

More renderings and description found here: http://www.oppenoffice.com/

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9916/delanomondrian4kq3.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2224/delanomondrian3ya8.jpg
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/2358/delanomondrian2da1.jpg
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/8541/delanomondrian1qs7.jpg
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/5895/delanomondrian5ea0.jpg

mdiederi
06-21-2007, 02:54 AM
Wow! Looks like Mondrian is up on stilts or something. Not your normal "commie block".

Patrick
06-21-2007, 03:06 AM
EWW The Delano is FUGLY! Whats with the top!!!??

Actually, I think this project will become an Eyesore, just like the Aladdin.

I have to disagree, I love the tower, makes great chemistry with the Paris Hotel.

hotdog
06-21-2007, 04:20 AM
That Oppenheim website says that their concept won the competition for the Delano/Mondrian design. They have the Delano 400 feet above ground, supported by an LED covered column. That would be cool, but have they replaced such design with the very bland design they released yesterday? Supposedly, the Mondrian is inspired by the 2001 Space Odyssey monolith, but it looks like a 1970s bank tower.

future29
06-21-2007, 04:23 AM
if that is indeed the new Delano Mondarin design i will give this project a B+ instead of the C- that it currently has.

Echelon hotel is still crap in my eyes though. first off, the hotel's side faces the strip, so strip patrons will see the painted white side of the building. not very welcoming. second, the main entrance looks like garbage. are those concrete bricks that it will be made of? bad idea Boyd. this is not inviting at all. needs more glass and a total overhall. Boyd completely missed the boat with this, could have been a lot better designed. strip frontage is important, and basically Echelon has none. a big parking lot, a port cochere, and a concrete brick shopping area which doesnt even have the name of the casino on it.

Superfish
06-21-2007, 04:36 AM
While we will give credit to the new Delano Mondarin design (although remember that CityCenter's preliminary models had a similar hotel in the back on stilts), the frontage is what gets me. No one is going to want to enter the resort if it's not inviting or interesting at the street level. The piller itself won't come close to impressing many who have visited/seen CityCenter first.

The parking lot may hurt them also, if simply to downplay the resort's value and luxury a bit to the uninformed. While they may build residential later, the streetfront parking lot will detract from the hotel itself. Everyone will wonder why all the other new hotels have nice frontage and this one puts a parking lot in front.

LMich
06-21-2007, 11:21 AM
Those are the most recent renderings of the Mondrian and Delano hotels, or the most recently found?

hotdog
06-21-2007, 02:05 PM
(from LMich) Those are the most recent renderings of the Mondrian and Delano hotels, or the most recently found?


I am just guessing that they are the most recently found, and that Oppenheimer used them to win the competition, and then replaced it with something practical. But if they do go ahead with a 400 foot pillar, they should rotate the buildings to place the pillar more towards the center of the property, reducing how much they block views from the main tower, and hiding the parking garage).

Vtown420
06-21-2007, 03:36 PM
I don’t know how new they are but I haven’t seen them before. The Oppenheimer website also has Hard Rock Hotel renders:

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8558/hardrock5aq5.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4316/hardrock4qw2.jpg
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5466/hardrock3uq1.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2674/hardrock2ne3.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/268/hardrockry4.jpg

Vtown420
06-21-2007, 03:48 PM
:previous: I think that might have been cancelled though. I can’t keep track anymore. :shrug:

jazfingr
06-22-2007, 12:19 AM
:previous:

Yes, those are the cancelled Hard Rock renderings (good find though)

As for Echelon Place. I think all the Echelon haters in here will change their tune once the project matures. This is an expensive project with 5-star hotels. They won't be using EIFS on the mall entrance, probably marble or granite. The Delano Mondrian building won't be a typical glass curtain either. I have a feeling this will be a beautiful project.

Naysayers, be prepared to eat your words. :D

TheOldMan
06-22-2007, 03:03 AM
^^^^i hope you are right. with this project, its Fear the Worst, Hope for the Best. hopefully the real thing will be much more appealing then the renderings.

heyyoucharlie
06-22-2007, 08:18 PM
Echelon - Delano Mondrian

More renderings and description found here: http://www.oppenoffice.com/

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/2358/delanomondrian2da1.jpg


I don't know about the rest of you guys, but that looks awsome... It is different, and in Vegas different usually works great. To see this type of building would be 1 of the few reasons I would have to actually want to go to Echelon!!!

Bender13
06-22-2007, 08:50 PM
:previous: I really like that building too and I hope that's what built and not the two block buildings next to each other like in the other rendering. The only problem I have with that design is that I think it should be flipped so that the LED column is facing the Strip instead of the freeway. But even so that will be a cool looking building.

P.S. Any word or pictures on the progress of the alzheimer center? Anyone?

Vegas Grows Up
06-22-2007, 10:55 PM
Many people have been asking me to provide video. To get started I have filmed and uploaded 50 videos including almost every hotel and high rise under construction as well as land, units and views. These videos are short and to the point. I may consider doing longer videos and/or market reports in future.

See them at my Videos of Las Vegas Strip (http://www.youtube.com/vegascondoscene) page on You Tube.

I took this shot from Mix on June 21st. MGM was throwing a special event for Preferred Agents at CityCenter. (pardon my quick photoshop)
http://item.slide.com/r/1/97/i/gK-hnyPTcD-SCS0vkJisxmCJHDN2W4KE/

ScottG
06-24-2007, 10:06 PM
did no one miss me?

ive been gone in the UK for the past 3 weeks. im amased at how much i missed out on...and how much i missed vegas.

fountaine bleau (will NEVER spell it right) looks like cosmo, i think its too bland.

same with echelon, i dont get the tower, nothing to it. i think that most recent rendering of one of the boutique towers is interesting with the 400 foot tall elevator...put i doubt that would get built, its a waste of space. they could fill that gap with rooms....but it is an interesting concept...i do like city centers version better (any one remember that- some one mentioned it) it was curved instead of two boxes.....

i think i dislike how the two above hotels are rotated to face the north strip. it makes the property off balance, when you look at the towers you are looking at the side of it, not the front. they make no grand appearance.

has anyone seen the planet hollwood sign yet?

before i left i remember it was going up. i havnt driven by it yet.

im so suprised that echelon is already under construction, fountain bleau is already a few stories tall and cosmo has surpassed jocky club, so much has happened. and a *new* "more expensive and better than the rest" hotel is planned for that saharah property. its nice to see that are fastly moving forward on that.

this morning i was watching some public access show (on chanel 2) you know the one where they talk about the city, public transportation etc. well there was a new breif show about the construction in vegas. they had some guy (sadly and embarrassingly) host the show and presented some info onthe strip developments....well it was a failure, they showed the wrong rendering for echelon (showing that domus project by the strat) and when they coveredall the hotels under construction they forgot about cosmo. it was a joke. lots of stuff left out or misled. funny.



you know how when looking down the strip (form the welcome to las vegas sign) you get that famous shot of las vegas blvd. and how trump is right in sight, atop all the buildings, smack in the middle of the road in the distance. great planning and affect on trumps part. BUT im sad to know that tower 2 throws it off. if you look at tower 1 from the sign, youll see that it is slightly off towards the right side of the strip and there is open air to the left right next to it. i looked it up and tower 2 actually is going on the right side of tower 1 there for you will not be able to see tower 1 and 2 along the strip. they will be completly off axis. they show put tower2 on the other side that way it completly fills in the skyline from that point of view...... anyone else know what i mean?

ScottG
06-24-2007, 10:11 PM
ive been meaning to ask, why does everyone think the plaza hotel replacing the fronteir is going to be a 'replica'. my inturpretation of the press release was that they are going to use the standards and reputation of the new york plaza and convert it into a vegas hotel....like fountaine bleau...it is not a replica of the florida hotel.

mdiederi
06-25-2007, 05:19 AM
anyone else know what i mean?
Yeah, I know what you mean. MGM owns the land on that side of Trump and has a parking garage there for the office building behind it. Used to be Mirage's building and was filled with Atlandia designers. Not sure if that's the location for MGM/Mirage design group or what they use it for now.

mdiederi
06-25-2007, 05:22 AM
(pardon my quick photoshop)

LOL, Trump looks like the Veer towers. :haha:

Vegas Grows Up
06-25-2007, 06:53 AM
HAHA! It does! I didnt even see that :)

mttbox
06-25-2007, 08:10 AM
LOL, Trump looks like the Veer towers. :haha:

what da......? was that trump? what happen?

RazzMan
06-25-2007, 12:13 PM
LOL, Trump looks like the Veer towers. :haha:


Why does the photo show two towers for Trump like that...? It looks a mess like that.
That is not what is will look like once complete. I think that's insulting..

Empire Builder
06-25-2007, 01:54 PM
Why does the photo show two towers for Trump like that...? It looks a mess like that.
That is not what is will look like once complete. I think that's insulting..

Relax, it's an edit, and I think a rather good one - everything else blends rather nicely except for the trump building. I love the photo - my girlfriend and I were at Mixx this time last year and have a very similar photo of that view - so that pic has sentimental value for me :yes: absolutely great pic

heyyoucharlie
06-25-2007, 08:21 PM
LOL, Trump looks like the Veer towers. :haha:

That's funny... also, if you look really close at the whole picture, I think you can see the curve of the Earth... WOW;)

heyyoucharlie
06-25-2007, 08:27 PM
Relax, it's an edit, and I think a rather good one - everything else blends rather nicely except for the trump building. I love the photo - my girlfriend and I were at Mixx this time last year and have a very similar photo of that view - so that pic has sentimental value for me :yes: absolutely great pic

While you were at Minxxx did you see Pacman Jones there??? :sly: Was anyone makeing it rain, I hear it happens a lot in that club??? :haha: That area has blown up with new clubs, I think there are 1 or 2 more that are in the planning stages to get built around Wynn Rd...

Vegas Grows Up
06-26-2007, 04:09 AM
The picture has been fixed. Now Trump looks correct. Go see.

There is nothing I can do about the curve of the earth however :)

detmi7mile
06-26-2007, 04:37 AM
cant wait to see vegas in ten years...it looks good now, but its gonna look even better

lukemason
06-26-2007, 11:52 PM
Here's the Palazzo construction thread, it has four pages full of pictures.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=122282

thank you man :)

mdiederi
06-27-2007, 04:14 PM
I added new images to the CityCenter thread.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=109405&page=8

Vegas Grows Up
06-27-2007, 07:38 PM
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Red UM Rebel
06-27-2007, 07:52 PM
Another step by Las Vegas to be the Disney World for adults. Workers dressed for certain areas will never appear where they're not supposed to. Good job CC.

jazfingr
06-27-2007, 07:58 PM
Wow. Veer West looks just like a big red dumpster :haha:

Vegas Grows Up
06-27-2007, 08:03 PM
Allure recently chose me to be the first person allowed to take videos and pictures inside their luxury condo project.

The link below will take you to my article (with videos) showing the inside of the building!

Inside you will see one and two bedroom units, the pool deck area, views and penthouses. You will not believe the C4 unit balcony!

See it all at my Allure Las Vegas (http://www.squidoo.com/allurelasvegas/) First Look Inside Article

This was 41 stories up on outside of the C2 NW penthouse...Insane!

http://item.slide.com/r/1/96/i/WPc-q3bE0D9xk-f8PqdIox4CqciKM1_D/

MrVegas
06-28-2007, 06:18 AM
It looks like Fontainebleau is finally getting ready to build their sales center. It will be located across LV Blvd where the Sky LV sales office used to be.

http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0218205.htm

Vegas Grows Up
06-28-2007, 07:32 PM
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BruceH
06-28-2007, 07:56 PM
The new Las Vegas Fontainebleau Resort (http://www.luxuryrealtygroup.com/fontainebleau-resort.html) sales center is going to be very contemporary just as expected for this great project. I just reviewed the renderings and hope to post them soon on here. Check out details at
Las Vegas Fontainebleau Resort (http://lasvegashighriseblog.com/brucehiatt/2007/06/28/fontainebleau-las-vegas-condo-sales/)

heyyoucharlie
06-28-2007, 10:18 PM
:previous: Are we ever going to get better renderings of the project or will it be a secret till we see the real building??? I want to get excited about the project, but it's hard to get excited about a build that has no public renderings...? The one in the paper left more questions then answers.

ScottG
06-29-2007, 11:16 PM
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/caesars.htm

new renderings of ceasars expansion....

it doesnt look good, throws the whole site off balance....too close to augustus

jazfingr
06-30-2007, 12:15 AM
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/caesars.htm

new renderings of ceasars expansion....

it doesn't look good, throws the whole site off balance....too close to Augustus

I couldn't agree more. I think it looks stupid. The new tower blocks the south views of the Palace tower and the Palace Tower blocks the north views of the new tower. This placement will also block the sun from the pool, during the nicer months.

The new tower should have been adjacent to the Palace tower (parallel to I-15). What the hell were they thinking. :shrug: :koko:

jazfingr
06-30-2007, 01:09 AM
I did a study using my quick sketch-up model. For those of you who don't know, stetch-up has a shadow feature where you can set the date and time.

With the new tower, the pool area at Caesars will only have sun during the hottest months (when shade would be nice) and will be in partial of full shade between Sept and March (when sun would be something folks would welcome).

Here is a screen shot showing the shade on Oct. 15th at noon.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1055/664142967_62e2b2ddc2_o.jpg

Vegas Grows Up
06-30-2007, 04:26 AM
Jaz you continue to blow me away. Shade studies? On the forum? Awesome!

jazfingr
06-30-2007, 04:56 AM
Here's how they should do it - IM(not so)HO
I'm really hoping someone at Harrah's sees this and slaps their forehead.
Can anyone here tell me why this is not a better idea or why this wouldn't work?

-Better views for all towers
-Sun all year
OK, I'll admit, there would be a longer walk to the tower - but that's the only negitive I can come up with :D

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1184/666981894_ff02435e10_o.jpg

future29
06-30-2007, 05:09 AM
Harrahs are idiots, plain and simple. they have been running a rinky dink operation for far too long now.
i have 0% hope towards their plans for their "big" plans at ip, harrahs, ballys and barbary coast.

mdiederi
06-30-2007, 05:18 AM
I have a feeling that they may actually add a tower over there in that direction after they build this latest one. Then they will have towers with views of the pool all the way around like thier Flamingo hotel towers across the street.

future29
06-30-2007, 05:32 AM
not a bad rendering but still poorly planned. are they re glassing the old towers? re painting removing the reed roof?
btw they forgot to inclue the massive power lines that will be blocking a majority of those lower level views.;)

on another note, the pulse project looks too dense. something i thought id never say about a project.

jazfingr
06-30-2007, 08:17 AM
I have a feeling that they may actually add a tower over there in that direction after they build this latest one. Then they will have towers with views of the pool all the way around like their Flamingo hotel towers across the street.

Why not, the whole place is a clusterfk now, they might as well box it all in for a real claustrophobic feel. :tup:

The Flamingo is fairly open where the main pool is and the giant wall of pink mirrors gives reflectivity to the whole courtyard. Not bad. But this is another story altogether.

Also, I don't care for the similar-yet-different design of the towers. In this case, they should have built a clone of the Augustus Tower.

Future29 wrote: "the pulse project looks too dense. something i thought id never say about a project."
I wholeheartedly agree. That project is way toooo dense for its own good.

Patrick
06-30-2007, 09:52 AM
Thanks for using My Model of Ceasers Palace :) Its really kind of a compliment.

Well the new Tower SUCKS! It has no real detail (You know, the Major Colums) I've always loved the architecture of the whol complex, like a mini City Skyline, but this Tower ruins it all!

Who wants views of the Other Tower or the Bellagio's Ass? While your in the Agustus Tower, Dont forget to wave at the people in the other hallway 1 cm away!

Jazfingr, you plan is way better, I though thats what it was going to turn out like!

jazfingr
06-30-2007, 10:30 AM
:previous:

Your models are real good, Patrick. They make it easy to remodel and add to the existing structures. Thanks for all your dedicated work.

Red UM Rebel
06-30-2007, 08:49 PM
Harrahs are idiots, plain and simple. they have been running a rinky dink operation for far too long now.
i have 0% hope towards their plans for their "big" plans at ip, harrahs, ballys and barbary coast.

I would agree that their new plan is not thought out as well as it could be. I think it is hillarious that people on this blog are much better planners and designers than the people paid.

Harrah's is doing a great job with designing the new Margaritaville Casino in Biloxi though. I have been allowed to see some great sketches and designs of the master plan and hope to post them on the MS Gulf Coast blog soon. (:tup: ). It seems like Harrah's has always been better at planning things outside Las Vegas and MGM has been the masters of Las Vegas.

lfc4life
07-01-2007, 12:28 AM
It seems like Harrah's has always been better at planning things outside Las Vegas and MGM has been the masters of Las Vegas.

Personally i think Steve Wynn is the master of las vegas but there you go :tup:

hotdog
07-01-2007, 10:37 PM
This is apparently a new project, near the Hard Rock.

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000227038&fid=942

Red UM Rebel
07-02-2007, 02:46 AM
Personally i think Steve Wynn is the master of las vegas but there you go :tup:

I meant in property numbers. I would totally agree that Steve Wynn is the best!!! Great Point!!:tup:

MrVegas
07-02-2007, 06:30 AM
Installation has begun on the Vdara facade.
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1997/vdara1070107on3.jpg

Patrick
07-02-2007, 06:33 AM
Very Nice!

ScottG
07-02-2007, 04:49 PM
i must disagree with mr jaz.

i always thought that a third tower should be placed on the OTHER side of the palace (the original) tower, this way it brings symmetry/balance to the never organized site. a third tower either same height/style as augustus or taller would center the palace tower and make it a focal point. caesars was never organized, buildings all jumbled together and randomly plaed, their latest rendering proves this still will go on. their proposal is ackward. having a different looking building than anything on the site butt up against the augustus tower blocks both ends of the 2 towers. its weird having the two right next to each other.



i do beleive pools are closed or otherwise nopt inuse other than in the summer months. so the new tower may block the pool but when no one is there.....but that doesnt make it justifyable

Red UM Rebel
07-02-2007, 04:54 PM
It is not like they were placed randomly, it is just that the property refuses to tear down old buildings. They could almot tear down the front old hotel and put a taller tower there.

ScottG
07-02-2007, 05:36 PM
from vegas4visitors.com

Arena Plans Heat Up
Six companies have submitted formal proposals to the city to build major-league sports team worthy arenas. The companies are vying for the “preferred developer” title, which will be bestowed upon the best of the bunch and should grease some wheels in the ambitious plans. The whole thing is being kept very hush-hush but some details of the proposals have leaked including the previously announced 85-acre development near The Stratosphere and another that would be near City Hall and include a 124-story hotel and a casino. The proposals are being reviewed by the city council and the “winner” will be announced in mid-July. Of course the big question is if any of them will be able to lure a pro-sports team to the big arena if it is ever built.


the las vegas tower (crown las vegas) is not by city hall......is this ANOTHER supertall?!

beets281
07-02-2007, 11:53 PM
You know that rendering for Caesars is different then the one i saw 8 months ago. I used to work at Caesars and I got to see some blue prints that resembled what jazfinger configured. I wonder why they changed it. Anyways about tearing down old buildings and building new ones there, you forgot there is a casino underneath those buildings and you can exactly destroy them. From my understanding the 1 billion dollar remodel includes closing Forum Tower and redoing the interior.

lukemason
07-04-2007, 12:37 AM
i hope the casino royale never gos away best place on the strip placement and $ wize :)

cosmo2k8
07-04-2007, 06:35 PM
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070704/hilton_blackstone.html?.v=5

AP
Blackstone to Buy Hilton Hotels for $20B
Wednesday July 4, 12:38 pm ET
By Gary Gentile, AP Business Writer
Hilton Hotels to Be Acquired by Private Equity Firm Blackstone Group in $20.1B Cash Deal


LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Hilton Hotels Corp. has agreed to an all-cash buyout from The Blackstone Group LP in a $20.1 billion deal that would instantly make Blackstone the world's largest hotel owner.
The private equity group said it would combine cash from its real estate and corporate private equity funds to buy all outstanding Hilton shares for $47.50 each, a 32 percent premium over Tuesday's closing stock price.


The companies valued the deal at $26 billion including debt.

Hilton's board approved the terms Tuesday. The company said the deal would close in the fourth quarter pending shareholder approval.

"Our board of directors concluded that this transaction provides compelling value for our shareholders with a significant premium," Stephen F. Bollenbach, Hilton's co-chairman and chief executive, said in a statement.

The acquisition would take Beverly Hills-based Hilton Hotels private and boost Blackstone's portfolio of lodging properties. Blackstone owns more than 100,000 hotel rooms in the United States and Europe, including La Quinta Inns and Suites as well as LXR Luxury Resorts and Hotels.

Hilton Hotels owns or operates 2,800 hotels and 480,000 rooms in 76 countries and territories and includes such brands as Doubletree, Embassy Suites and Hampton Inn.

Among Hilton's premier hotels is the Waldorf-Astoria in New York.

Blackstone said it intends to invest heavily in Hilton and does not foresee any significant divestitures. Blackstone noted that it had invested nearly $1 billion in its LXR properties over the last three years and has grown the La Quinta brand by approximately 45 percent since buying it in January 2006.

"It is hard to imagine a better strategic fit for us than Hilton with its world-class people, brands and network of hotels," said Jonathan Gray, senior managing director at Blackstone. "We are committed to investing in the company and working with Hilton's outstanding owners and franchisees to continue to grow and enhance the business."

Hilton recently announced that Matthew J. Hart, the company's president and chief operating officer, would succeed Bollenbach as president and CEO effective Jan. 1, 2008. It was unclear whether Hart would remain with the company after the acquisition.

"Blackstone likes the management here," Bollenbach told The Associated Press. "Matt continues to be COO and our plans remain the same."

Hilton has been expanding aggressively since 2005, when it bought Britain's Hilton Group PLC for $5.7 billion cash, reuniting two brands that split in the 1960s. The deal allowed Hilton, which had been limited to properties in the U.S. and Canada, to become a global player.

In 2006, Hilton's revenue nearly doubled to $8.16 billion, and net income climbed 24 percent.

The company had raised its 2007 estimates for per-room revenue, a key industry measure, in a sign that its expansion plans were being matched by increased worldwide demand.

Hilton's expansion plans, especially in new territories such as India, and the steady stream of fees the company gets for managing franchised properties worldwide, proved attractive to Blackstone, said Jonathan Galaviz, a partner at Globalysis Ltd., a Las Vegas-based consultancy.

"Blackstone feels those type of international expansion plans bode well for the long-term viability of Hilton as an asset," Galaviz said.

"I would expect to see continuing interest from private equity in travel and leisure sector assets as consumer disposable income increases in places like China and India and baby boomers here shift to the leisure part of their lives," he said.

The deal was praised by hotel workers union UNITE HERE.

"We enjoy a positive partnership with Hilton Hotels," union president Bruce Raynor said.

"Blackstone has demonstrated its commitment to fair treatment for thousands of hotel workers in several major markets," he added. "This combination is good news for the workers of what will be the largest hotel owner in the world."

Socialite Paris Hilton's grandfather, Barron Hilton, is co-chairman of the board with Bollenbach and owns 5.3 percent of Hilton Hotels' outstanding shares, according to the company's latest proxy statement.

The stake consists of 20.8 million shares owned by the William B. Hilton Trust, of which Barron Hilton is a trustee, according to the proxy.

Hilton Hotels shares rose $2.18, or 6.4 percent, to $36.05 Tuesday in trading shortened ahead of the July Fourth holiday.

Blackstone shares rose 45 cents, or 1.5 percent, to $29.72. The New York-based buyout shop sold a stake in its management partnership in an initial public offering late last month.

ScottG
07-05-2007, 03:52 PM
^^^ that could be good news for las vegas hilton and the waldorf historia condo project here if blackstone wants to 'invest' in their new hotel brand...


btw, i read in wikipedia that the paris las vegas resort when underconstruction was half owned by hilton hotels and therefore was going to be called Paris Hilton. but the company backed out way before construction completed. funny eh?

Red UM Rebel
07-05-2007, 04:29 PM
^^^Great although there were rumors on the coast that a big New York firm was looking to build through Biloxi Capital LLC and use a newly acquired name, I wonder if we are going to get a Hilton too...

I think it would be cool if they totally renovated and changed the Hilton Las Vegas and changed it to Blackstone Resort, Casino, and Spa.

mdiederi
07-05-2007, 09:22 PM
The Las Vegas Hilton is currently owned by Colony Capital (60%) and Whitehall Street Real Estate Funds (40%), so it's not part of the Blackstone deal. I'm not clear on what sort of contract they have on use of the "Hilton" name.

Paris Las Vegas was originally conceived by Bally's and finally built by Park Place Entertainment, which was a merger of Hilton Gaming and Bally's, led by Bally's CEO Arthur Glodberg, who was becoming a big owner in the gaming industry, but he suddenly died and then the company was sold to Harrah's.

mdiederi
07-05-2007, 09:22 PM
The Las Vegas Hilton is currently owned by Colony Capital (60%) and Whitehall Street Real Estate Funds (40%), so it's not part of the Blackstone deal. I'm not clear on what sort of contract they have on use of the "Hilton" name.

Paris Las Vegas was originally conceived by Bally's and finally built by Park Place Entertainment, which was a merger of Hilton Gaming and Bally's, led by Bally's CEO Arthur Goldberg, who was becoming a big owner in the gaming industry, but he suddenly died and then the company was sold to Harrah's.



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