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laguna
Jul 28, 2007, 11:46 PM
Great pictures!

I have not been in any rooms at Wynn. From the pictures I was a little disappointed in the furniture. It looked rather 50ish and not as grande as I would have expected. How was it in person? and if I may be so bold as to ask 'about how much were they charging for these type of rooms?' And how would you compare the value and experience with other Vegas hotels you have stayed at?

lukemason
Jul 29, 2007, 1:29 PM
Due to my location, I am unable to contribute much to this board. I am regret that. I was in LV this week, and took many pictures of most of the high profile projects. I had an excellent room at Wynn, and was able to get some fantastic shots of Encore, and Echelon, though there is little going on there at this point. I did see countless truckloads of dirt being moved out of the site, which is evident in some of the pics that you will see.

Enjoy, and I wish I could post on a more regular basis.

Notice the large structure on the South side of the Encore site. This can only be one of two things. Either its a new large Ballroom, or, its Wynn's new mysterious and rumored 3rd theater. ???

http://dangie.com/fey/vegas0707/



thank you for the verry nice pictures :)

Runtime
Jul 29, 2007, 2:06 PM
Notice the atricle states that 14 of 16 parcels in Union Park have been spoken for and Barnet Liberman (New York Financier) claims to be working on investesting in projects (with an "s") downtown!



Development's big man on campus


Investors say they're writing big checks because of Oscar Goodman
By Joe Schoenmann
Las Vegas Sun


There was a time, less than six years ago, when downtown Las Vegas residents had to sidestep spent condoms near the curb outside their homes.

Many too were the stories of hookers who, taking on the persona of Blanche DuBois, would go door to door, offering their services in a "I have always depended upon the kindness of strangers" demeanor.

And in the summer of 2001, 9/11 ring leader Mohammad Atta must have so appreciated the isolation and obscurity of downtown that he spent a few comfortable nights in the EconoLodge on Las Vegas Boulevard, just south of Charleston.

Downtown Las Vegas seemed to always be an official afterthought, an unofficial dumping ground. Carson Avenue and Seventh Street was hooker central. Walking through the now-boarded up El Cid, you'd be lucky not to step on a spent hypodermic needle. No one knew or cared what happened anywhere east of the Fremont Street Experience.

And then this happened.

Somehow the city created believers in downtown. Maybe not yet believers of the Summerliners or the Green Valleyites. But perhaps more important at this stage of the city's redevelopment, people with bushels full of money to invest are believers.

And to a person , this is what they say:

None of it would have happened without the man holding the bottle of Bombay Sapphire gin, Mayor Oscar Goodman.

"It's Oscar and the team he put together . And, in terms of cheerleading or boosting, he's nonpareil . He is the best."

Those are the words of Barnet L. Liberman, a New York financier who says he is bound not to talk about projects he is working on in downtown Las Vegas, but acknowledges that the amount he is investing goes way beyond first intentions.

"I don't think I would have invested half the money I invested in Las Vegas were it not for the confidence I have in the institutions ( Goodman) leads," Liberman said. "He's just built a terrific team over there."

It's impossible to deny the transformation that downtown Las Vegas is undergoing.

Last week, the city began negotiating with REI Neon, which wants to buy 85 acres of radiator shops, furniture stores, art galleries and other businesses southwest of Main Street and Charleston Boulevard.

Though some are skeptical - even Goodman still sees it as a long shot - REI Neon wants to build an arena to house a basketball or hockey team, along with a casino, condos, retail space and exhibition halls. The announced price tag was $9.5 billion until Goodman said on a radio program Friday it had risen to $10.5 billion.

Then there's Union Park, on the so-called 61 acres site just west of the Plaza hotel. Just a few weeks ago, steel girders forming the frame of the Lou Ruvo Brain Institute, designed by Frank Gehry, began rising from the southwest corner of that property.

Dan Van Epp who, as president of Newland Communities' Mountain Region, is tasked with managing and developing Union Park, says 14 of 16 parcels of Union Park "have been spoken for."

"And the development effort on all of Union Park begins in earnest in November," Van Epp said. "A half-dozen buildings will be under construction by this time next year."

But it's not just the mega-projects that downtown Las Vegas is seeing. SoHo Lofts, the first high-rise condo project, is done and sold near Charleston and Las Vegas boulevards. Another high rise by the same developer is almost finished just a few blocks away.

Streamline tower, another condo project, is going up almost directly across the street from City Hall on Las Vegas Boulevard. Juhl is another high rise midway through construction.

And even Fremont Street East - or the Fremont East Party District or Fremont East Entertainment District, whatever you prefer to call that part of Fremont east of Las Vegas Boulevard that isn't under an electrified canopy - is getting new life.

Tiny bars like The Griffin and Downtown Cocktail Room opened this year and are seeing a lot of business. A sign on a vacant store across the street from The Griffin says a franchise coffee shop will be there soon (though the coffee shop owner said talks have stalled), and the V Club is being built inside the former Metro fingerprinting building at Sixth and Fremont.

True, Neonopolis remains the big orange three-story dream that is now an empty eyesore . You'll also struggle to find a grocery store within a few miles of this burgeoning area, despite the city's best efforts to almost give away land for that purpose.

"Naysayers," as Goodman calls them, might point to the failure of Neonopolis as downtown's failure - and Goodman's failure.

But Liberman tells another story.

Last fall, Liberman invited Goodman to New York to talk to some of the biggest money people in the world about "the real story in the city of Las Vegas."

Lehman Br s . , Bear Stearns, The Carlyle Group, "all the major banks and financial houses," as Liberman puts it.

"These are some pretty tough, savvy financial people, probably the toughest and most savvy in the world," he said.

And Goodman wowed them.

"Everyone walked away with a new impression of what's really happening and understood the dynamics, and all of it was because of his presentation and the support of the professionals he has working in City Hall," Liberman said.

Liberman, 61, has worked in real estate since 1969. He's credited with being the first to see the potential and investing in the then-new concept of lofts in the then-rundown SoHo District in Manhattan. He said he works all over the country . But in his decades in the business, he's never worked with anyone as accommodating or with a city with fewer turf battles among agencies than Las Vegas.

"And what people may not understand or know is, he really listens. It would appear that he really talks," Liberman said , adding that he was talking on the phone while holding a paper fan adorned with Goodman's face on one side and the logo of the city's business development office on the other. "But he really listens."

When asked whether that's different from his experience in other cities, Liberman laughed .

"I've done this in many cities and I have actually given his phone number to other mayors as an example of how they should organize themselves to encourage development," Liberman said. "And that includes New York."

Liberman is not alone in his sentiments. Developer after developer contacted by the Sun said the same thing, even those who publicly rued the day Goodman became mayor.

Like Van Epp.

"He said I'd set back Las Vegas 100 years," Goodman said of Van Epp. "Now he's my greatest supporter."

Van Epp, the former president of Howard Hughes Corp., admits that he "was not one who believed that his prior practice as a defense attorney largely for Mafia clients was necessarily a good thing for Las Vegas."

But Goodman's enthusiasm was infectious.

"I don't know how more fundamentally I can say it, but I believe he made a difference," Van Epp said. "He has a message about downtown and he has stayed on that message."

And still, some are bound not to give the mayor credit. Of course developers are lavishly praising the mayor, they say. They smell the money to be made downtown.

Jeremy Aguerro isn't a developer, though. He's the guy developers turn to when trying to decide whether the projects that look so promising on paper will succeed if they are built. His company, Applied Analysis, is one of the most respected sifters of economic indicators and trends in the state.

And this is what Aguerro said about the mayor and his staff :

"As weird as this sounds, and beyond financing and economic requirements, he has put together a brilliant team that understands business," Aguerro said. "As well as any city in the country, they get it. Oscar gets it.

"I don't think you can understate how important that is to the community and to businesses developing and relocating."

But is it Goodman? Is he really "the man," as many developers call him?

"When the history is written, it will probably come down to a fine line between right place/right time and right guy/right time," Aguerro said.

"That said, and with the group the mayor has down there, and from a guy who works with businesses who want to relocate, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who's done it better."

Joe Schoenmann can be reached at 229-6436 or at joe.schoenmann@lasvegassun.com.
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Empire Builder
Jul 29, 2007, 2:40 PM
Looking through the huge stock of pictures supplied by BrianFey (which were amazing, by the way) I noticed the parking garage sitting between TI and The Mirage. Though I'm not a Vegas local, I do visit this page frequently and keep up with the development news - but i haven't heard of any plans regarding this site. It seems like a prime piece of real estate considering all the existing resorts and the mega-developments going on nearby - much to prime to have a parking garage sit on it. Does anyone know of any plans for this site?

mdiederi
Jul 29, 2007, 6:05 PM
The announced price tag was $9.5 billion until Goodman said on a radio program Friday it had risen to $10.5 billion.
That's way more than CityCenter's budget, which is currently the most expensive privately funded construction project in US history.

Looking through the huge stock of pictures supplied by BrianFey (which were amazing, by the way) I noticed the parking garage sitting between TI and The Mirage. Though I'm not a Vegas local, I do visit this page frequently and keep up with the development news - but i haven't heard of any plans regarding this site. It seems like a prime piece of real estate considering all the existing resorts and the mega-developments going on nearby - much to prime to have a parking garage sit on it. Does anyone know of any plans for this site?
In MGM's investor presentations they always show a chart of Strip land they have available for new development and that site is marked on the chart. But nothing specific has been announced. Too small for a full-blown resort, but they could put a condo/hotel tower there.

Silas
Jul 30, 2007, 1:32 AM
Empire -

Here's an article from today's paper about development on West Side of Strip. (Sounds like a long way off to me ....) At the end of the article there is mention of the land between Mirage/TI but nothing specific. Basically, that is the land that Trump 'should' be on. It could/would connect to Mirage and TI and also have the truly prime strip location.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/8795042.html

RazzMan
Jul 30, 2007, 1:45 AM
Empire -

Here's an article from today's paper about development on West Side of Strip. (Sounds like a long way off to me ....) At the end of the article there is mention of the land between Mirage/TI but nothing specific. Basically, that is the land that Trump 'should' be on. It could/would connect to Mirage and TI and also have the truly prime strip location.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/8795042.html

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Why Should TRUMP be on this land?

heyyoucharlie
Jul 30, 2007, 2:11 AM
This is the best line from the sun article above:

"And the development effort on all of Union Park begins in earnest in November," Van Epp said. "A half-dozen buildings will be under construction by this time next year."

November!!! :banana: :cheers: :banana:

Silas
Jul 30, 2007, 2:12 AM
I just meant that it is a better piece of land for a Trump-like project. All Trumps issues would be resolved if it were there (IMO). That has direct strip location and one of the few things left in Vegas -- a view that will not ever be obliterated.

bluejudad
Jul 30, 2007, 5:09 AM
After Oscar, who do you think are most responsible for the changes in Downtown? My # 2 goes to Sam Cherry.

MrVegas
Jul 30, 2007, 6:07 AM
No really, haven't seen anything from Planet Hollywood Towers in a while, how's that one progressing?

The first tower is up to the 5th floor. You can see in the foreground that the foundation for the second tower is still being worked on.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/149/pht072707rf1.jpg

ScottG
Jul 30, 2007, 3:27 PM
juhl will top off today and tomorrow is a ground breaking ceremony for.......SULLIVAN SQUARE.

mdiederi
Jul 30, 2007, 3:40 PM
The first tower is up to the 5th floor. You can see in the foreground that the foundation for the second tower is still being worked on.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/149/pht072707rf1.jpg

Is that up against the parking garage? Are the towers going to be facing each other?

mttbox
Jul 30, 2007, 4:26 PM
hi, does anyone know the occupancy rate of "The Hotel" and the "MGM signature"

bluejudad
Jul 30, 2007, 5:16 PM
hi, does anyone know the occupancy rate of "The Hotel" and the "MGM signature"

I have a suite at the Sig which I rent independetly. All I can tell you is the place is very busy all the time and my suite is rented most of any given month. I am very pleased with everything. Not to mention, the Signature is rated #1 in Las Vegas by TripAdvisor and is currently seeking a 5 star status.

mttbox
Jul 30, 2007, 6:57 PM
I have a suite at the Sig which I rent independetly. All I can tell you is the place is very busy all the time and my suite is rented most of any given month. I am very pleased with everything. Not to mention, the Signature is rated #1 in Las Vegas by TripAdvisor and is currently seeking a 5 star status.

thank you blue, but how can you rent by your self? do you rent it as a hotel room or as a short time rental? and i guess you must be local in order to do that right? the reason i asked is because if the "the hotel and the sig" are doing good than i would think the trump (i purchased a unit at 46th floor) would maybe do good too or maybe even better due to the location are closer to the convention center, i purchased as a vacation home and it would be nice if i can get a good rental revenue out of it during the time when I'm not there.

Lecom
Jul 30, 2007, 6:57 PM
Of course, If The Donald could really have it his way, we would probably see this.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1005/907302905_d3f7ad1de7_o.jpg
Well, he already has both buildings the color of his hair, so...

Red UM Rebel
Jul 31, 2007, 3:21 AM
Thanks for the pictures bryan and the story about downtown is very intesting!

MrVegas
Jul 31, 2007, 6:21 AM
Is that up against the parking garage? Are the towers going to be facing each other?

There is just enough room between the parking garage and the tower for a narrow road, which is currently being used by Valet. A sign next to the construction site shows a picture of the towers in a "horseshoe" shape, with the towers parallel to each other.

lfc4life
Jul 31, 2007, 2:52 PM
Hi guys, i have a small favour to ask. Can someone here take a very recent high-quality snap of the Strip from the Stratosphere tower deck please (as in finished trump etc). The strat cam that snaps pictures every hour is good but the picture quality is very poor. Last time i was up on the strat in March it was dark so my pictures didn't come out the best and i won't be in Vegas again for a while :(

I want to compare them to these amazing shots taken in September 1995 by StuSeeger http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuseeger/sets/72157594278709636/

ScottG
Jul 31, 2007, 6:55 PM
a few interesting pictures i fell upon......

stratosphere under construction....

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1273/240084227feca23c7c9fo5.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2046/2400855152138c69204st0.jpg

nice shot of city center (i think its from the top of planet hollywood?)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1898/5592111438f288739d9gg2.jpg

luxor....
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9803/234ka1.jpg

mgm (notice the marina logo)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2740/345un1.jpg

excalibur...

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7150/2345zf6.jpg

i dont know how recent this is, but notice the shape of citycenters main tower, it reminds me of the COACH brand logo...

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2535/437278836147d89b197tu1.jpg

its old but you can see the color / font of 'rump. (i noticed this morning that the mirage and trump blend together when you are driving on the west side of the strip north bound.....the mirage has black letters, but trump has gold. thats the only thing setting them apart)

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1994/9203864513923664625hs9.jpg

rare picture of sands under construction
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2658/9408298475dd926d24fma1.jpg

for those that never see vegas at night on a hill or a plane....you can see how our nights are lit up.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2691/untitledfs9.jpg

ScottG
Jul 31, 2007, 11:39 PM
world jewelery center has a new website up with a new rendering....

http://www.worldjewelrycenter.com/

stanhi's got a nice new one up too:

http://www.stanhi.com/

jazfingr
Aug 1, 2007, 10:15 PM
Here are a few of the many shots I took this weekend.
more can be seen on VegasTodayAndTomorrow (http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/) check the updates, there will be more on the site tonight and tomorrow. :D



http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/976267837_aee9c59c21_o.jpg
Palms Place


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1126/976267709_f9307d868a_o.jpg
Panorama Towers III


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1229/976267663_260ac1fcfd_o.jpg
PH


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1177/976267637_ec2061696f_o.jpg
Streamline


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1247/976267419_e530d6adf7_o.jpg
PH Towers (from behind)


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1401/976267213_f511a14512_o.jpg
Newport

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1120/977885685_c5cdb2c378_o.jpg
Hey Donald, nice neighbors :haha:


:D

mdiederi
Aug 2, 2007, 7:24 PM
Thanks for the update photos Jazfingr. :tup:

http://www.lvrj.com/business/8869377.html
HOWARD STUTZ
REVIEW-JOURNAL

PALAZZO SLATED TO OPEN IN DECEMBER

Las Vegas Sands Corp. announced Wednesday it would open the $1.6 billion Palazzo on Dec. 20.

The 3,068-room resort, under construction next to The Venetian, will open its gaming area, hotel and restaurants, the company said during its second-quarter earnings conference call Wednesday.

The Shoppes at Palazzo, the property's 450,000-square-foot retail space that is anchored by Barneys New York, will open in January. The Palazzo theater, which will feature the Broadway musical "Jersey Boys," is expected to open in the spring.

When completed, The Venetian and Palazzo complex will represent the largest integrated destination resort in the world, with 7,128 hotel rooms and 2.3 million square feet of meeting, convention and exhibition space.

Because the Palazzo is being operated as an extension of The Venetian, Las Vegas Sands President Bill Weidner said, the company expected to obtain back-of-house and other operating savings of between $40 million and $60 million for the combined complex.

"The resort is designed to appeal to our important high-end Asian customer," Weidner said.

The Palazzo will be the first new resort to open on the Strip since the April 2005 opening of Wynn Las Vegas.

oreo
Aug 2, 2007, 9:31 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1120/977885685_c5cdb2c378_o.jpg
Hey Donald, nice neighbors :haha:


:D

that love boutique is actually pretty nice inside :P but i heard from the workers inside that it will be moving...not quite sure, but its what i heard.

lukemason
Aug 3, 2007, 11:08 PM
they are taking there time with the PALAZZO for some reason ?

that has to be the slowest tower to rise in LV history .


PS: The Trump Towers are Ugly no style no nodda trump would not know how to build a stylish or classy joint to save his life .

hotdog
Aug 4, 2007, 12:12 AM
Silverton's expansion is on hold:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/business/2007/aug/03/566622905.html

cosmo2k8
Aug 4, 2007, 4:42 AM
Hey everyone,

Just visited the CityCenter site and they have added music, flash content and brought back the good ol webcam perched on the Monte Carlo looking northwest towards the main hotel tower.

www.citycenter.com

Cheers! :cool:

lfc4life
Aug 4, 2007, 11:48 AM
they are taking there time with the PALAZZO for some reason ?

that has to be the slowest tower to rise in LV history

They had to dig an underground parking garage at Palazzo which took over a year to build. The tower itself has gone up rather quickly imo

Here it is picture of the construction of palazzo in mid August 2006 http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/palazzo_construction060808a.jpg

Now here is one at the end of July 2007 http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/palazzo%20construction%20070731.jpg

The whole tower has risen in roughly 14-15 months.

gmcclenon
Aug 4, 2007, 4:33 PM
It's not even completed and it looks dated already.

future29
Aug 4, 2007, 6:26 PM
any speculation on when Harrahs is going to release plans for the IP, Harrahs, Bills, and Ballys? my expectations on this project have lowered now because of the inactivity. can we expect much or just some minor renovations like whats happening to Flamingo?

oreo
Aug 4, 2007, 8:58 PM
Here's some pics from my recent roadtrip across the country. Sorry for the crappy quality, they were taken while driving and through a window (full of bugs, I may add).

These were taken on 7/21

City Center:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4145/pict1905ul5.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1905ul5.jpg)
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7316/pict1908nb5.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1908nb5.jpg)

Panorama Tower 3:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6329/pict1906iq4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1906iq4.jpg)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8187/pict1907wh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Palazzo:
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/6083/pict1904gd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

crap picture of Encore:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7527/pict1900zj8.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1900zj8.jpg)

Trump:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6344/pict1902tf5.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1902tf5.jpg)

Strip view (Turnberry Towers are kinda visible behind the Strat):
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6836/pict1899io1.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1899io1.jpg)

Another shot through the bug-filled window with Allure, Palazzo and Encore 'visible' (use your imagination):
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3804/pict1901gj7.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1901gj7.jpg)

Random strip view (you can kind of see turnberry towers, allure, encore, palazzo, trump, and whatever else you can make out)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4208/pict1896ud9.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1896ud9.jpg)

South Strip

One LV:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6905/pict1912yk3.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1912yk3.jpg)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8765/pict1913lx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Loft 5:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5232/pict1914pe3.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1914pe3.jpg)

Downtown

World Market Center Building 3:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5491/pict1897dv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

next to WMC 3 (WMC 4? parking? anyone?):
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8081/pict1898tz3.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1898tz3.jpg)

also, from what I can remember:
Fremont East has a bunch of signs up...are they going to put up a neon "Fremont East" sign over the road like the rendering?

Golden Nugget is under construction...no clue what they are doing

Newport Lofts seems complete exterior-ly.

Molasky Corporate Center looks complete as well (havent heard about that one in a while)

Showcase Mall area under construction (I think)

Boca Raton (South Strip) looks very complete

thats all i remember, its probably not news for anyone but yeah

lukemason
Aug 5, 2007, 11:39 AM
thanks for pics oreo :)

MrVegas
Aug 6, 2007, 6:06 AM
Main Tower
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4940/cosmo0805071aq0.jpg


The second tower next to LV Blvd is beginning to rise.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7436/cosmo0805072ul5.jpg

gmcclenon
Aug 6, 2007, 3:18 PM
Thanks so much Mark. This looks even better than I had hoped. And I had high expectations:
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/fontainebleau%20rendering%20807night.jpg

The rest:
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/fontainebleau.htm

ScottG
Aug 6, 2007, 3:39 PM
i wonder why only the top levels are lit up at night in the rendering....looks like the fashion show mall 'cloud' is getting a twin

ScottG
Aug 6, 2007, 8:23 PM
i just around the city center site and istrongly recommend anyone in town to go down there. with the construction of planet hollywood, panorama, cosmo, and city center it is all just unbeleivable to absorb. no pictures can truly grasp the amount of construction. cosmo is getting up there quite fast maybe because it is steel, and city center is just amazing. the main tower is huge, vdara is large (i really like the black and white strips) and the mall is a mess of diagnal beams and slabs. the size of it all really makes you feel small. when this thing is done it will really blow everyone away.

mdiederi
Aug 6, 2007, 8:30 PM
3 floors collapsed at the Fontainebleau parking garage today.
http://klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6892276

No injuries.

Second accident in less than a week. One of the workers from the earlier accident died at the hospital.

This is a Turnberry project and I remember they had a floor collapse on Turnberry Towers.

Fontainebleau released the following statement:

During the course of construction this morning, a pre-cast twin tee, an isolated part of the Fontainebleau garage collapsed, causing a domino effect before stopping at a concrete slab several levels below. We are thankful to be able to report that no injuries were incurred. We have suspended all construction on and within the garage complex until a full investigation of the cause of the accident can be completed.

heyyoucharlie
Aug 6, 2007, 9:11 PM
:previous: Wow... It's hard to believe that nobody got hurt. :eek:

ScottG
Aug 6, 2007, 11:19 PM
something is fishy about turnberry. why is it that they are having so many accidents. i wonder if turnberry place had any (the original 4 tower complex) or mgm signature. maybe turnberry hires cheap labor / material?

fountainebleau has had nothing but bad press. nimbys have their issues, and now so does oshia (site inspectors)

justdefended
Aug 6, 2007, 11:58 PM
something is fishy about turnberry. why is it that they are having so many accidents. i wonder if turnberry place had any (the original 4 tower complex) or mgm signature. maybe turnberry hires cheap labor / material?

fountainebleau has had nothing but bad press. nimbys have their issues, and now so does oshia (site inspectors)

I know Marnell Corrao was the contractor for The Signature. AFAIK I didn't hear about any accidents there.

The contractor for Fontainebleau is listed as "Turnberry West" at VTAT. Maybe a new division of Turnberry?

BruceH
Aug 7, 2007, 12:46 AM
Wanted to share the photos of the dust rising the moment the three floors collapsed in the garage for Fontainebleau Resort Las Vegas (http://www.luxuryrealtygroup.com/fontainebleau-resort.html) today. Fontainebleau is located across from Sky Las Vegas luxury condos (http://www.luxuryrealtygroup.com/sky-las-vegas.html) where I took these photos today. The garage floors collapse occured about 10:30am today and felt like a small earthquake from my home in Sky. Very glad to learn no one was killed today in this incident.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1628/fontainebleaugaragecollwk0.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6940/fontainebleaugaragecollzy6.jpg

Superfish
Aug 7, 2007, 1:03 AM
I saw you on the channel 8 news being interviewed in your Sky unit. It must have been quite a sound to hear it fall. It's practically a miracle no one happened to be on any of those floors when it fell.

Superfish
Aug 7, 2007, 3:17 AM
Speaking of Fontainebleau, the website is now UP.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1418/font1cg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://bleaulasvegas.com/

Good thing they don't make you spell out Fontainebleau entirely eh?

cosmo2k8
Aug 7, 2007, 3:26 AM
Awesome. Thanks Superfish!

Cheers!

:yes:

Superfish
Aug 7, 2007, 4:02 AM
Sure, guess I might as well give you the Palazzo website also.

http://www.palazzolasvegas.com/

There's nothing there yet besides a short flash that loops endlessly.

hotdog
Aug 7, 2007, 5:04 AM
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o01.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o02.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o03.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o04.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o05.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o06.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o07.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o08.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o09.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o10.jpg

Some older drawings of Mandarin Oriental.

Taurus702B
Aug 7, 2007, 9:43 AM
I saw you on the channel 8 news being interviewed in your Sky unit. It must have been quite a sound to hear it fall. It's practically a miracle no one happened to be on any of those floors when it fell.

You could hear it at the Stratosphere too. On a normal day you could hear sounds coming out of that contruction site on level 109.

Red UM Rebel
Aug 9, 2007, 1:35 AM
Thanks for all the updates and great info! Glad to be back

peltecs
Aug 9, 2007, 8:32 AM
Haven't we already discussed how bleau is pronounced "blow" and not "blue" from the French? We wouldn't want to be calling the Palazzo - Pillazo now would we? Then again, there is nothing French about the resort except the name. They really ought to rename it. I think the new renderings make the project look pretty sharp though. But if gold makes Trump tacky, then a resort name improperly pronounced out to be up on the tacky list eh?

ScottG
Aug 9, 2007, 3:08 PM
APPARENTLY It IS ACTUALLY "BLUE" now ^^^^^^


question: what are the odds that the failed renovation of the aladdin tower would go from browns, painted a hiduous blue, settled on pure white, BUT NOW having hints of BLACK?

what im getting at is yesterday i saw theres some black being painted along the sides of the windows maybe stripping maybe a whole covering....maybe another temporary billborad.....time will tell

jazfingr
Aug 9, 2007, 10:05 PM
It's actually more difficult to pronounce.

it's not blue or blow, it's more of a blah with a slight o u accent.

This is the very reason Wynn changed the name of hs resort from Le Rêve to Wynn Las Vegas. Nobody could pronounce Le Rêve so, instead of listening to several mangled interpretations, he simply changed the name.

Fontainebleau, on the other hand, is a well known and well established resort in Miami. Most folks and employees refer to it as fountain-blue (which is exactly what Fontainebleau means anyway) so, it's ok to shed the french accent. When an American pronounces Fontainebleau properly, it sounds pretentious and snobby.

After all, when you order a burrito, I doubt you roll your rrrrs.

gmcclenon
Aug 9, 2007, 10:06 PM
Haven't we already discussed how bleau is pronounced "blow" and not "blue" from the French? We wouldn't want to be calling the Palazzo - Pillazo now would we? Then again, there is nothing French about the resort except the name. They really ought to rename it. I think the new renderings make the project look pretty sharp though. But if gold makes Trump tacky, then a resort name improperly pronounced out to be up on the tacky list eh?

"A New Shade of Blow"? Maybe that's what they meant. Or not.

mdiederi
Aug 10, 2007, 12:36 AM
The French spelling for blue is "bleu". I can't find a meaning for "bleau" in French. Fontainebleau is the name of a town and a forest in France. There is also fontainebleau cheese from that area, but it's a creamy cheese and not like bleu cheese. Some say the Fontainebleau Las Vegas sales office is like Swiss cheese. (http://www.lasvegashighriseblog.com/brucehiatt/2007/06/28/fontainebleau-las-vegas-condo-sales)

Sure has been a couple of slow news days.

Red UM Rebel
Aug 10, 2007, 12:40 AM
Very good point, I have been to Fountainebleau and nothing of this resort or the one in Miami seems like it bares any resemblance. I guess they just liked the name. If we are going to pick at names though, CityCenter is not even in the city and nothing is too triumphant about the Trump :)

Superfish
Aug 10, 2007, 1:55 AM
This month hasn't been good for construction.

News reports an accident has occurred at citycenter resulting in the death of one worker.

No further info.

MrVegas
Aug 10, 2007, 5:23 AM
Here's a news report on the accident at City Center.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=6912985

MrVegas
Aug 10, 2007, 5:54 AM
Hilton Resorts will be asking the Planning Commission for permission to increase the height of their next tower during the 08-21-2007 meeting.

UC-WS-DR-0807-2007 Hilton Resorts Corporation owner & applicant, a use permit to increase building height & a waiver to encroach into Nellis Air Force Base Air Space. Also a design review for modifications to timeshare hotel. Located on the west side of Las Vegas Blvd., 1,200’ south of Sahara. PC 8-21-2007

hail2skins
Aug 10, 2007, 10:42 AM
Anyone ever take pics of the construction of Aliente Station? I saw groundbreaking was over 5 months ago and was wondering about the progress so far.

mdiederi
Aug 10, 2007, 3:38 PM
http://www.lvrj.com/business/9083101.html
Tamares Las Vegas Properties filed a complaint Thursday in Clark County District Court to block Elad Group of New York from using the Plaza name in Sin City.

... The Tamares lawsuit goes on to say Elad is "perfectly poised to destroy," business at the downtown Las Vegas hotel.

Superfish
Aug 10, 2007, 3:48 PM
Anyone ever take pics of the construction of Aliente Station? I saw groundbreaking was over 5 months ago and was wondering about the progress so far.

I saw in on the news 2 or 3 months ago, steel was going up. It's bound to be several floors tall by now.

gmcclenon
Aug 10, 2007, 4:04 PM
Hilton Resorts will be asking the Planning Commission for permission to increase the height of their next tower during the 08-21-2007 meeting.

UC-WS-DR-0807-2007 Hilton Resorts Corporation owner & applicant, a use permit to increase building height & a waiver to encroach into Nellis Air Force Base Air Space. Also a design review for modifications to timeshare hotel. Located on the west side of Las Vegas Blvd., 1,200’ south of Sahara. PC 8-21-2007

Hey MrVegas, I don't see that on the agenda sheet yet!

jazfingr
Aug 10, 2007, 9:19 PM
The next move by ELAD should be to buy the downtown Plaza and be "front row center" for the new Fremont bridge to the 61 acres. They could then build a new hotel there and name it something different. That would stop this silliness.
:haha:

Vegas Grows Up
Aug 11, 2007, 1:30 AM
Speaking of pronouncing things properly, I always see people spelling CityCenter as City Center. MGM is sending out cease and desist letters to agent websites who do not spell or capitalize properly. I can understand why they would want it be marketed the proper way. MGM MIRAGE CityCenter. MGM MIRAGE as all capital and CityCenter one word with capital C's.

Many press outlets even get it wrong and post it as MGM Mirage CityCenter, failing to do MIRAGE in capital.

vegasrain84
Aug 11, 2007, 2:38 AM
Speaking of pronouncing things properly, I always see people spelling CityCenter as City Center. MGM is sending out cease and desist letters to agent websites who do not spell or capitalize properly. I can understand why they would want it be marketed the proper way. MGM MIRAGE CityCenter. MGM MIRAGE as all capital and CityCenter one word with capital C's.

Many press outlets even get it wrong and post it as MGM Mirage CityCenter, failing to do MIRAGE in capital.

MGM Mirage can go to hell.. I hate people who think that they own the world. These companies are exactly what is wrong with America. These major corporations using their power and influence for their own greedy agenda. Trying to pick a fight with little guys to bully them around. Who cares if someone spells it CityCenter or City Center or Mirage or MIRAGE. It's all symantics and its ridiculous that they are sending out Cease and Desist letters to people who don't spell their name the way they want for their stupid public relations agenda. I hardly ever post anything on here anymore, but this one really made me angry.... Sorry for the rant.

future29
Aug 11, 2007, 2:42 AM
Fontainebleau, on the other hand, is a well known and well established resort in Miami. Most folks and employees refer to it as fountain-blue (which is exactly what Fontainebleau means anyway) so, it's ok to shed the french accent.

This is actually incorrect. blue in french is "bleu". seems like people will always be pronouncing this name incorrectly. i dont think bleau means anything in french, however, the word "l'eau" means water.

m0nkyman
Aug 11, 2007, 2:50 AM
And the original reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Fontainebleau) was probably Paris not Miami.

Vegas Grows Up
Aug 11, 2007, 5:11 AM
MGM Mirage can go to hell.. I hate people who think that they own the world. These companies are exactly what is wrong with America. These major corporations using their power and influence for their own greedy agenda. Trying to pick a fight with little guys to bully them around. Who cares if someone spells it CityCenter or City Center or Mirage or MIRAGE. It's all symantics and its ridiculous that they are sending out Cease and Desist letters to people who don't spell their name the way they want for their stupid public relations agenda. I hardly ever post anything on here anymore, but this one really made me angry.... Sorry for the rant.

I felt the same way you did at first considering I recieved one of these cease and desist letters. With that being said, the trademarked and branded name is not City Center or Citycenter or Project city Center....it is CityCenter or MGM MIRAGE CityCenter.

Whenever I market my website www.VegasGrowsUp.com I want the VGU capitalized...And its not worth 7.4 billion dollars by any means. :)

Many companies enforce the proper use of their trademarks, fonts, spellings etc.

Vegas Grows Up
Aug 11, 2007, 5:52 AM
I have been doing client walkthroughs at Newport Lofts (http://www.vegascondoscene.com/newport-lofts.html) in downtown and must say I am impressed with the quality. Everything feels right. The lobby features fine woods and a soothing modern waterfountain.

You can see two videos below

Lobby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nle9q8xtdJs

Hallways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Sh3jQx3s

Also here is a picture of Juhl with Streamline in background which was taken from one of my clients units.
http://item.slide.com/r/1/14/i/KGVLp3jTtT_dK9wHM8ZaZPQHVcSsuFSV/

MrVegas
Aug 11, 2007, 6:10 AM
Hey MrVegas, I don't see that on the agenda sheet yet!

It will be posted on the Planning Commission agenda sheet next week. If you want to see what is going to posted up to 1 week before it is actually posted, you can look at the town board agendas. The town board agendas only list new items, or items that have major modifications, so the list will not include everything that will be on the planning commission agenda. There are 3 town boards covering the strip, so you will have to look at 3 different agendas. Listed below are links to the 3 town boards. After you click on a link, select "Meeting schedules, agendas & minutes", then select the date you want to view.

Winchester Town Board: http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/administrative_services/Town_Services/WinchesterTABindex.htm

Paradise Town Board: http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/administrative_services/Town_Services/ParadiseTABindex.htm

Enterprise Town Board: http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/administrative_services/Town_Services/EnterpriseTABindex.htm

hotdog
Aug 11, 2007, 3:00 PM
The owners of the downtown Plaza must be thrilled with their situation. If they win the lawsuit, Elad will probably pay them tons of money for them to change their name and give Elad rights to the Plaza name in Las Vegas. If they lose the lawsuit, they can later on advertise rooms at the Plaza, and unsuspecting tourists will end up staying at their hotel (or paying for a room and just not showing up). And they won't have to worry about being sued by these tourists, because a judge has ruled that the two Plazas are not confusing. While Vegas regulars will know the difference, infrequent visitors will get duped---just like the tourists who want to eat at a Ray's Pizza in NYC and eat at a fake one.

mdiederi
Aug 11, 2007, 3:28 PM
The next move by ELAD should be to buy the downtown Plaza and be "front row center" for the new Fremont bridge to the 61 acres. They could then build a new hotel there and name it something different. That would stop this silliness.
:haha:
I almost wonder if forcing a buyout is what Tamares has in mind, since they seem to be incompetent casino managers (http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2007/03/02/news/iq_12690815.txt) and really should get out of the business.

MrVegas
Aug 11, 2007, 7:28 PM
Anyone ever take pics of the construction of Aliente Station? I saw groundbreaking was over 5 months ago and was wondering about the progress so far.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3526/aliantestation081107ce2.jpg

jazfingr
Aug 11, 2007, 8:40 PM
The owners of the downtown Plaza must be thrilled with their situation. If they win the lawsuit, Elad will probably pay them tons of money for them to change their name and give Elad rights to the Plaza name in Las Vegas. If they lose the lawsuit, they can later on advertise rooms at the Plaza, and unsuspecting tourists will end up staying at their hotel (or paying for a room and just not showing up). And they won't have to worry about being sued by these tourists, because a judge has ruled that the two Plazas are not confusing. While Vegas regulars will know the difference, infrequent visitors will get duped---just like the tourists who want to eat at a Ray's Pizza in NYC and eat at a fake one.


OK, say your a wealthy person and you wish to book a room at The Plaza, you will expect rates of $300 or more. So, when you're quoted a $59 rate (including a free hot dog and Coke) you will probably realize that you've got the wrong Plaza. I doubt Plaza Las Vegas will get any of The Plaza's unsuspecting guests.

I also don't think that Tamares' complaint will hold water since the names (Plaza Las Vegas and The Plaza) are not the same.

Thanks for the Aliante Station shot, Mr V :D

northbay
Aug 11, 2007, 10:03 PM
^interesting crane at the aliante station site. never seen anything like that. anybody know what that crane is used for?!?

MrVegas
Aug 12, 2007, 7:04 AM
Trump now has his name in lights on the Las Vegas Strip. Surprisingly, it really isn't any brighter than the nearby Treasure Island lettering.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9394/trumptixf1.jpg

hotdog
Aug 12, 2007, 8:48 AM
Jazfingr, your website has the Holiday Inn example http://vegastodayandtomorrow.com/whereisthis.htm where tourists get fooled. It happens---not to frequent visitors to Las Vegas, but to people who have never been to Vegas and heard from a friend that "the Plaza is really nice." And both Plaza Las Vegas and the Plaza are going to be referred to as the Plaza. In fact, on your website http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/the-plaza.htm you use the term "Plaza Las Vegas" to refer to both buildings. I doubt one could open up a "Mandalay Bay Las Vegas" and not expect a phone call from some lawyers. And certainly if Elad's Plaza were open first and Tamares attempted to open their one after, Elad would sue and win. And yeah, the free hot dog and coke might give it away, but I know that when I travel to cities such as NYC, sometimes I'll pay $150/night and sometimes I'll pay $600/night for the same hotel room, on different days of the same week. So most people, and all Vegas regulars, will figure it out. But some will get fooled. If you type in Plaza in Google, Tamares is #2 and the Plaza NYC is #3. That might change when the new Plaza opens up, but that's a lot of internet traffic directed towards the cheap Plaza. I bet the downtown Plaza wins the lawsuit (or more likely they settle).

hotdog
Aug 12, 2007, 4:34 PM
The Plaza land deal has closed:
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000242323&fid=1725
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3436400,00.html

Silas
Aug 12, 2007, 4:36 PM
Good Points Hotdog. Only natural for downtown Plaza to make a stand.

If both names co-exist, downtown Plaza would do well to build a fancy web site and charge $400 per room. They would probably get quite a few reservations.

I am sure Elad expected this (otherwise they are dumb) and will pay off. Either pay off downtown Plaza or payoff lawyers/judges making the decisions.

mdiederi
Aug 12, 2007, 4:59 PM
"Plaza" is a really generic name for a hotel. There are "Plaza" hotels in almost every city in America. There's another one in Carson City, Nevada.
They even have a Plaza hotel in Las Vegas, New Mexico, built in 1882 and older than the one in New York. (http://www.plazahotel-nm.com/)

^interesting crane at the aliante station site. never seen anything like that. anybody know what that crane is used for?!?
Actually that's just your average extra large crawler crane with the extra jib for reaching really far. In that photo the jib is in the down position which they usually do when they're off duty. It's used for lifting things. There are some others at the big projects on the Strip.

Silas
Aug 12, 2007, 5:09 PM
But how many cities have two Plaza hotels?

mdiederi
Aug 12, 2007, 5:09 PM
The Plaza land deal has closed:
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000242323&fid=1725
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3436400,00.html
That's weird. One article calls it the "Plaza hotel-casino and business center" and the other article calls it the "Plaza Center casino and hotel".

mdiederi
Aug 12, 2007, 5:14 PM
But how many cities have two Plaza hotels?
Elad might be able to argue that the Frontier property isn't in the city of Las Vegas, it's in Paradise Township, Clark County. They might also argue that the Strip and downtown are two different markets, which they are. Don't know if they'll win the argument though.

I remember a similar case back when Grand Casinos took over the Stratosphere project and they were thinking of changing the name. MGM Grand put a stop to that.

Hans Gruber
Aug 12, 2007, 5:37 PM
Let's just refer to the Plaza or at least the dumpy hole in the wall dowtown Plaza as Biff's.

Trumps building looks like a knockoff to Mandalay Bay. It's totally unoriginal.

philip
Aug 12, 2007, 6:12 PM
The Plaza land deal has closed:
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000242323&fid=1725
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3436400,00.html

3800 rooms in such a small plot of land at a cost of $6 Billion Dollars. I wonder if this will be like a maximum density prison clad in Gold.

jazfingr
Aug 12, 2007, 8:41 PM
:previous:

38.54 acres is not exactly a small parcel. Remember, the property is mostly undeveloped parking lots. There's plenty of room there for a great resort.

For comparison and contrast:
Fontainebleau (3,898 rooms) is on 24.46 acres
Crown (Las Vegas Tower) will be on 27.1 acres
Palazzo/Venetian jammed 7,000+ rooms into about 43 acres
Cosmopolitan is squeezing 3,000 rooms into less than 9 acres
Luxor (including the mostly unused areas up front) has 4,400 rooms on 41.72 acres.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1329/1096477522_378c1b15d8_o.jpg

Red UM Rebel
Aug 12, 2007, 9:03 PM
Wow, the Cosmo is the most impressive with 3000 in 9 acres. Is it even considered a resort though because the building will encompass most of the space?

oreo
Aug 12, 2007, 9:58 PM
That's weird. One article calls it the "Plaza hotel-casino and business center" and the other article calls it the "Plaza Center casino and hotel".

don't worry bout that too much. the Israeli press tends to make some mistakes when referring to things outside of Israel (or not in Hebrew).

mdiederi
Aug 13, 2007, 2:09 PM
Marriott has assembled over ten acres of land across Paradise Road from the convention center, but they're not saying what their plans are.
http://www.globest.com/news/969_969/lasvegas/163093-1.html

oreo
Aug 13, 2007, 10:35 PM
hey guys, sorry to repost this, but what is this?

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3811/pict1898jc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

its right next to World Market Center 3, i know the picture is terrible but i guess u can still see it (picture is from I-15)
thanks

jazfingr
Aug 13, 2007, 10:55 PM
:previous:

The World Market Center parking garage.

oreo
Aug 14, 2007, 7:49 AM
ah sweet, thought thats what it was but i wasnt sure. thanks bro

ScottG
Aug 14, 2007, 3:01 PM
so the black stuff being put on planet hollywood is actually a banner for the new resident evil movie. i kinda like that they are advertising current releases of things, but planet hollywood doesnt not have a movie theatre.......

also the second sign at wynn (the one that advertises the clubs and shows) is getting changed to read Encor (i assume) there is a crane taking off the WYNN.

peltecs
Aug 15, 2007, 8:58 AM
3800 rooms in such a small plot of land at a cost of $6 Billion Dollars. I wonder if this will be like a maximum density prison clad in Gold.

So, name the hotel..."THE DIAMOND!" Diamond Hotel Resorts! Diamond Plaza Hotel?

LA101
Aug 15, 2007, 2:47 PM
i kinda like that they are advertising current releases of things, but planet hollywood doesnt not have a movie theatre.......

Are there any plans to add a theater complex in the hotel... it would seem only natural.

also the second sign at wynn (the one that advertises the clubs and shows) is getting changed to read Encor (i assume) there is a crane taking off the WYNN.

Speaking of Wynn, I've always liked this commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKnaypXbuQg


...

mdiederi
Aug 15, 2007, 3:24 PM
Drove by this morning and they have started work on the foundation for the Palazzo condominium tower. What's the name of that tower?

mdiederi
Aug 15, 2007, 9:16 PM
Hilton Resorts will be asking the Planning Commission for permission to increase the height of their next tower during the 08-21-2007 meeting.

They're going to raise it 115 feet taller. Originally approved at 405 feet. So now it will be 520 feet.

Red UM Rebel
Aug 15, 2007, 9:21 PM
Drove by this morning and they have started work on the foundation for the Palazzo condominium tower. What's the name of that tower?

I have looked for the name of that project too. I came up empty. It will probably be named something like the condos at the Palazzo or something. That would be my guess. Jaz or anyone else know?

mdiederi
Aug 15, 2007, 10:22 PM
The RJ picked up on that Marriott news and found some more info.
http://www.lvrj.com/business/9169217.html

They say they plan to build an upscale Marriott Marquis hotel there. The convention center would like to see an upscale 2,000 room hotel there, since Colony didn't replace the Hilton when they bought it.

jazfingr
Aug 15, 2007, 11:07 PM
The Palazzo condo tower is (as yet) un-named. According to the Sands public relations office.
My guess is that is will be Residence at Palazzo or something unexciting like that.

I put up a page on the Marquis. This may be a very cool hotel. :D