[ScottG]

juhl will top off today and tomorrow is a ground breaking ceremony for.......SULLIVAN SQUARE.

[mdiederi]

The first tower is up to the 5th floor. You can see in the foreground that the foundation for the second tower is still being worked on.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/149/pht072707rf1.jpg

Is that up against the parking garage? Are the towers going to be facing each other?

[mttbox]

hi, does anyone know the occupancy rate of "The Hotel" and the "MGM signature"

[bluejudad]

hi, does anyone know the occupancy rate of "The Hotel" and the "MGM signature"

I have a suite at the Sig which I rent independetly. All I can tell you is the place is very busy all the time and my suite is rented most of any given month. I am very pleased with everything. Not to mention, the Signature is rated #1 in Las Vegas by TripAdvisor and is currently seeking a 5 star status.

[mttbox]

I have a suite at the Sig which I rent independetly. All I can tell you is the place is very busy all the time and my suite is rented most of any given month. I am very pleased with everything. Not to mention, the Signature is rated #1 in Las Vegas by TripAdvisor and is currently seeking a 5 star status.

thank you blue, but how can you rent by your self? do you rent it as a hotel room or as a short time rental? and i guess you must be local in order to do that right? the reason i asked is because if the "the hotel and the sig" are doing good than i would think the trump (i purchased a unit at 46th floor) would maybe do good too or maybe even better due to the location are closer to the convention center, i purchased as a vacation home and it would be nice if i can get a good rental revenue out of it during the time when I'm not there.

[Lecom]

Of course, If The Donald could really have it his way, we would probably see this.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1005/907302905_d3f7ad1de7_o.jpg
Well, he already has both buildings the color of his hair, so...

[Red UM Rebel]

Thanks for the pictures bryan and the story about downtown is very intesting!

[MrVegas]

Is that up against the parking garage? Are the towers going to be facing each other?

There is just enough room between the parking garage and the tower for a narrow road, which is currently being used by Valet. A sign next to the construction site shows a picture of the towers in a "horseshoe" shape, with the towers parallel to each other.

[lfc4life]

Hi guys, i have a small favour to ask. Can someone here take a very recent high-quality snap of the Strip from the Stratosphere tower deck please (as in finished trump etc). The strat cam that snaps pictures every hour is good but the picture quality is very poor. Last time i was up on the strat in March it was dark so my pictures didn't come out the best and i won't be in Vegas again for a while :(

I want to compare them to these amazing shots taken in September 1995 by StuSeeger http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuseeger/sets/72157594278709636/

[ScottG]

a few interesting pictures i fell upon......

stratosphere under construction....

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1273/240084227feca23c7c9fo5.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2046/2400855152138c69204st0.jpg

nice shot of city center (i think its from the top of planet hollywood?)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1898/5592111438f288739d9gg2.jpg

luxor....
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9803/234ka1.jpg

mgm (notice the marina logo)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2740/345un1.jpg

excalibur...

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7150/2345zf6.jpg

i dont know how recent this is, but notice the shape of citycenters main tower, it reminds me of the COACH brand logo...

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2535/437278836147d89b197tu1.jpg

its old but you can see the color / font of 'rump. (i noticed this morning that the mirage and trump blend together when you are driving on the west side of the strip north bound.....the mirage has black letters, but trump has gold. thats the only thing setting them apart)

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1994/9203864513923664625hs9.jpg

rare picture of sands under construction
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2658/9408298475dd926d24fma1.jpg

for those that never see vegas at night on a hill or a plane....you can see how our nights are lit up.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2691/untitledfs9.jpg

[ScottG]

world jewelery center has a new website up with a new rendering....

http://www.worldjewelrycenter.com/

stanhi's got a nice new one up too:

http://www.stanhi.com/

[jazfingr]

Here are a few of the many shots I took this weekend.
more can be seen on VegasTodayAndTomorrow (http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/) check the updates, there will be more on the site tonight and tomorrow. :D



http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/976267837_aee9c59c21_o.jpg
Palms Place


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1126/976267709_f9307d868a_o.jpg
Panorama Towers III


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1229/976267663_260ac1fcfd_o.jpg
PH


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1177/976267637_ec2061696f_o.jpg
Streamline


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1247/976267419_e530d6adf7_o.jpg
PH Towers (from behind)


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1401/976267213_f511a14512_o.jpg
Newport

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1120/977885685_c5cdb2c378_o.jpg
Hey Donald, nice neighbors :haha:


:D

[mdiederi]

Thanks for the update photos Jazfingr. :tup:

http://www.lvrj.com/business/8869377.html
HOWARD STUTZ
REVIEW-JOURNAL

PALAZZO SLATED TO OPEN IN DECEMBER

Las Vegas Sands Corp. announced Wednesday it would open the $1.6 billion Palazzo on Dec. 20.

The 3,068-room resort, under construction next to The Venetian, will open its gaming area, hotel and restaurants, the company said during its second-quarter earnings conference call Wednesday.

The Shoppes at Palazzo, the property's 450,000-square-foot retail space that is anchored by Barneys New York, will open in January. The Palazzo theater, which will feature the Broadway musical "Jersey Boys," is expected to open in the spring.

When completed, The Venetian and Palazzo complex will represent the largest integrated destination resort in the world, with 7,128 hotel rooms and 2.3 million square feet of meeting, convention and exhibition space.

Because the Palazzo is being operated as an extension of The Venetian, Las Vegas Sands President Bill Weidner said, the company expected to obtain back-of-house and other operating savings of between $40 million and $60 million for the combined complex.

"The resort is designed to appeal to our important high-end Asian customer," Weidner said.

The Palazzo will be the first new resort to open on the Strip since the April 2005 opening of Wynn Las Vegas.

[oreo]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1120/977885685_c5cdb2c378_o.jpg
Hey Donald, nice neighbors :haha:


:D

that love boutique is actually pretty nice inside :P but i heard from the workers inside that it will be moving...not quite sure, but its what i heard.

[lukemason]

they are taking there time with the PALAZZO for some reason ?

that has to be the slowest tower to rise in LV history .


PS: The Trump Towers are Ugly no style no nodda trump would not know how to build a stylish or classy joint to save his life .

[hotdog]

Silverton's expansion is on hold:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/business/2007/aug/03/566622905.html

[cosmo2k8]

Hey everyone,

Just visited the CityCenter site and they have added music, flash content and brought back the good ol webcam perched on the Monte Carlo looking northwest towards the main hotel tower.

www.citycenter.com

Cheers! :cool:

[lfc4life]

they are taking there time with the PALAZZO for some reason ?

that has to be the slowest tower to rise in LV history

They had to dig an underground parking garage at Palazzo which took over a year to build. The tower itself has gone up rather quickly imo

Here it is picture of the construction of palazzo in mid August 2006 http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/palazzo_construction060808a.jpg

Now here is one at the end of July 2007 http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/palazzo%20construction%20070731.jpg

The whole tower has risen in roughly 14-15 months.

[gmcclenon]

It's not even completed and it looks dated already.

[future29]

any speculation on when Harrahs is going to release plans for the IP, Harrahs, Bills, and Ballys? my expectations on this project have lowered now because of the inactivity. can we expect much or just some minor renovations like whats happening to Flamingo?

[oreo]

Here's some pics from my recent roadtrip across the country. Sorry for the crappy quality, they were taken while driving and through a window (full of bugs, I may add).

These were taken on 7/21

City Center:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4145/pict1905ul5.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1905ul5.jpg)
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7316/pict1908nb5.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1908nb5.jpg)

Panorama Tower 3:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6329/pict1906iq4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1906iq4.jpg)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8187/pict1907wh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Palazzo:
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/6083/pict1904gd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

crap picture of Encore:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7527/pict1900zj8.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1900zj8.jpg)

Trump:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6344/pict1902tf5.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1902tf5.jpg)

Strip view (Turnberry Towers are kinda visible behind the Strat):
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6836/pict1899io1.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1899io1.jpg)

Another shot through the bug-filled window with Allure, Palazzo and Encore 'visible' (use your imagination):
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3804/pict1901gj7.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1901gj7.jpg)

Random strip view (you can kind of see turnberry towers, allure, encore, palazzo, trump, and whatever else you can make out)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4208/pict1896ud9.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1896ud9.jpg)

South Strip

One LV:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6905/pict1912yk3.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1912yk3.jpg)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8765/pict1913lx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Loft 5:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5232/pict1914pe3.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1914pe3.jpg)

Downtown

World Market Center Building 3:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5491/pict1897dv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

next to WMC 3 (WMC 4? parking? anyone?):
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8081/pict1898tz3.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict1898tz3.jpg)

also, from what I can remember:
Fremont East has a bunch of signs up...are they going to put up a neon "Fremont East" sign over the road like the rendering?

Golden Nugget is under construction...no clue what they are doing

Newport Lofts seems complete exterior-ly.

Molasky Corporate Center looks complete as well (havent heard about that one in a while)

Showcase Mall area under construction (I think)

Boca Raton (South Strip) looks very complete

thats all i remember, its probably not news for anyone but yeah

[lukemason]

thanks for pics oreo :)

[MrVegas]

Main Tower
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4940/cosmo0805071aq0.jpg


The second tower next to LV Blvd is beginning to rise.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7436/cosmo0805072ul5.jpg

[gmcclenon]

Thanks so much Mark. This looks even better than I had hoped. And I had high expectations:
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/fontainebleau%20rendering%20807night.jpg

The rest:
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/fontainebleau.htm

[ScottG]

i wonder why only the top levels are lit up at night in the rendering....looks like the fashion show mall 'cloud' is getting a twin

[ScottG]

i just around the city center site and istrongly recommend anyone in town to go down there. with the construction of planet hollywood, panorama, cosmo, and city center it is all just unbeleivable to absorb. no pictures can truly grasp the amount of construction. cosmo is getting up there quite fast maybe because it is steel, and city center is just amazing. the main tower is huge, vdara is large (i really like the black and white strips) and the mall is a mess of diagnal beams and slabs. the size of it all really makes you feel small. when this thing is done it will really blow everyone away.

[mdiederi]

3 floors collapsed at the Fontainebleau parking garage today.
http://klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6892276

No injuries.

Second accident in less than a week. One of the workers from the earlier accident died at the hospital.

This is a Turnberry project and I remember they had a floor collapse on Turnberry Towers.

Fontainebleau released the following statement:

During the course of construction this morning, a pre-cast twin tee, an isolated part of the Fontainebleau garage collapsed, causing a domino effect before stopping at a concrete slab several levels below. We are thankful to be able to report that no injuries were incurred. We have suspended all construction on and within the garage complex until a full investigation of the cause of the accident can be completed.

[heyyoucharlie]

:previous: Wow... It's hard to believe that nobody got hurt. :eek:

[ScottG]

something is fishy about turnberry. why is it that they are having so many accidents. i wonder if turnberry place had any (the original 4 tower complex) or mgm signature. maybe turnberry hires cheap labor / material?

fountainebleau has had nothing but bad press. nimbys have their issues, and now so does oshia (site inspectors)

[justdefended]

something is fishy about turnberry. why is it that they are having so many accidents. i wonder if turnberry place had any (the original 4 tower complex) or mgm signature. maybe turnberry hires cheap labor / material?

fountainebleau has had nothing but bad press. nimbys have their issues, and now so does oshia (site inspectors)

I know Marnell Corrao was the contractor for The Signature. AFAIK I didn't hear about any accidents there.

The contractor for Fontainebleau is listed as "Turnberry West" at VTAT. Maybe a new division of Turnberry?

[BruceH]

Wanted to share the photos of the dust rising the moment the three floors collapsed in the garage for Fontainebleau Resort Las Vegas (http://www.luxuryrealtygroup.com/fontainebleau-resort.html) today. Fontainebleau is located across from Sky Las Vegas luxury condos (http://www.luxuryrealtygroup.com/sky-las-vegas.html) where I took these photos today. The garage floors collapse occured about 10:30am today and felt like a small earthquake from my home in Sky. Very glad to learn no one was killed today in this incident.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1628/fontainebleaugaragecollwk0.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6940/fontainebleaugaragecollzy6.jpg

[Superfish]

I saw you on the channel 8 news being interviewed in your Sky unit. It must have been quite a sound to hear it fall. It's practically a miracle no one happened to be on any of those floors when it fell.

[Superfish]

Speaking of Fontainebleau, the website is now UP.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1418/font1cg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://bleaulasvegas.com/

Good thing they don't make you spell out Fontainebleau entirely eh?

[cosmo2k8]

Awesome. Thanks Superfish!

Cheers!

:yes:

[Superfish]

Sure, guess I might as well give you the Palazzo website also.

http://www.palazzolasvegas.com/

There's nothing there yet besides a short flash that loops endlessly.

[hotdog]

http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o01.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o02.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o03.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o04.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o05.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o06.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o07.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o08.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o09.jpg
http://www.frontinc.com/slides/mgm_mandarin_o10.jpg

Some older drawings of Mandarin Oriental.

[Taurus702B]

I saw you on the channel 8 news being interviewed in your Sky unit. It must have been quite a sound to hear it fall. It's practically a miracle no one happened to be on any of those floors when it fell.

You could hear it at the Stratosphere too. On a normal day you could hear sounds coming out of that contruction site on level 109.

[Red UM Rebel]

Thanks for all the updates and great info! Glad to be back

[peltecs]

Haven't we already discussed how bleau is pronounced "blow" and not "blue" from the French? We wouldn't want to be calling the Palazzo - Pillazo now would we? Then again, there is nothing French about the resort except the name. They really ought to rename it. I think the new renderings make the project look pretty sharp though. But if gold makes Trump tacky, then a resort name improperly pronounced out to be up on the tacky list eh?

[ScottG]

APPARENTLY It IS ACTUALLY "BLUE" now ^^^^^^


question: what are the odds that the failed renovation of the aladdin tower would go from browns, painted a hiduous blue, settled on pure white, BUT NOW having hints of BLACK?

what im getting at is yesterday i saw theres some black being painted along the sides of the windows maybe stripping maybe a whole covering....maybe another temporary billborad.....time will tell

[jazfingr]

It's actually more difficult to pronounce.

it's not blue or blow, it's more of a blah with a slight o u accent.

This is the very reason Wynn changed the name of hs resort from Le Rêve to Wynn Las Vegas. Nobody could pronounce Le Rêve so, instead of listening to several mangled interpretations, he simply changed the name.

Fontainebleau, on the other hand, is a well known and well established resort in Miami. Most folks and employees refer to it as fountain-blue (which is exactly what Fontainebleau means anyway) so, it's ok to shed the french accent. When an American pronounces Fontainebleau properly, it sounds pretentious and snobby.

After all, when you order a burrito, I doubt you roll your rrrrs.

[gmcclenon]

Haven't we already discussed how bleau is pronounced "blow" and not "blue" from the French? We wouldn't want to be calling the Palazzo - Pillazo now would we? Then again, there is nothing French about the resort except the name. They really ought to rename it. I think the new renderings make the project look pretty sharp though. But if gold makes Trump tacky, then a resort name improperly pronounced out to be up on the tacky list eh?

"A New Shade of Blow"? Maybe that's what they meant. Or not.

[mdiederi]

The French spelling for blue is "bleu". I can't find a meaning for "bleau" in French. Fontainebleau is the name of a town and a forest in France. There is also fontainebleau cheese from that area, but it's a creamy cheese and not like bleu cheese. Some say the Fontainebleau Las Vegas sales office is like Swiss cheese. (http://www.lasvegashighriseblog.com/brucehiatt/2007/06/28/fontainebleau-las-vegas-condo-sales)

Sure has been a couple of slow news days.

[Red UM Rebel]

Very good point, I have been to Fountainebleau and nothing of this resort or the one in Miami seems like it bares any resemblance. I guess they just liked the name. If we are going to pick at names though, CityCenter is not even in the city and nothing is too triumphant about the Trump :)

[Superfish]

This month hasn't been good for construction.

News reports an accident has occurred at citycenter resulting in the death of one worker.

No further info.

[MrVegas]

Here's a news report on the accident at City Center.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=6912985

[MrVegas]

Hilton Resorts will be asking the Planning Commission for permission to increase the height of their next tower during the 08-21-2007 meeting.

UC-WS-DR-0807-2007 Hilton Resorts Corporation owner & applicant, a use permit to increase building height & a waiver to encroach into Nellis Air Force Base Air Space. Also a design review for modifications to timeshare hotel. Located on the west side of Las Vegas Blvd., 1,200’ south of Sahara. PC 8-21-2007

[hail2skins]

Anyone ever take pics of the construction of Aliente Station? I saw groundbreaking was over 5 months ago and was wondering about the progress so far.

[mdiederi]

http://www.lvrj.com/business/9083101.html
Tamares Las Vegas Properties filed a complaint Thursday in Clark County District Court to block Elad Group of New York from using the Plaza name in Sin City.

... The Tamares lawsuit goes on to say Elad is "perfectly poised to destroy," business at the downtown Las Vegas hotel.

[Superfish]

Anyone ever take pics of the construction of Aliente Station? I saw groundbreaking was over 5 months ago and was wondering about the progress so far.

I saw in on the news 2 or 3 months ago, steel was going up. It's bound to be several floors tall by now.

[gmcclenon]

Hilton Resorts will be asking the Planning Commission for permission to increase the height of their next tower during the 08-21-2007 meeting.

UC-WS-DR-0807-2007 Hilton Resorts Corporation owner & applicant, a use permit to increase building height & a waiver to encroach into Nellis Air Force Base Air Space. Also a design review for modifications to timeshare hotel. Located on the west side of Las Vegas Blvd., 1,200’ south of Sahara. PC 8-21-2007

Hey MrVegas, I don't see that on the agenda sheet yet!

[jazfingr]

The next move by ELAD should be to buy the downtown Plaza and be "front row center" for the new Fremont bridge to the 61 acres. They could then build a new hotel there and name it something different. That would stop this silliness.
:haha:

[Vegas Grows Up]

Speaking of pronouncing things properly, I always see people spelling CityCenter as City Center. MGM is sending out cease and desist letters to agent websites who do not spell or capitalize properly. I can understand why they would want it be marketed the proper way. MGM MIRAGE CityCenter. MGM MIRAGE as all capital and CityCenter one word with capital C's.

Many press outlets even get it wrong and post it as MGM Mirage CityCenter, failing to do MIRAGE in capital.

[vegasrain84]

Speaking of pronouncing things properly, I always see people spelling CityCenter as City Center. MGM is sending out cease and desist letters to agent websites who do not spell or capitalize properly. I can understand why they would want it be marketed the proper way. MGM MIRAGE CityCenter. MGM MIRAGE as all capital and CityCenter one word with capital C's.

Many press outlets even get it wrong and post it as MGM Mirage CityCenter, failing to do MIRAGE in capital.

MGM Mirage can go to hell.. I hate people who think that they own the world. These companies are exactly what is wrong with America. These major corporations using their power and influence for their own greedy agenda. Trying to pick a fight with little guys to bully them around. Who cares if someone spells it CityCenter or City Center or Mirage or MIRAGE. It's all symantics and its ridiculous that they are sending out Cease and Desist letters to people who don't spell their name the way they want for their stupid public relations agenda. I hardly ever post anything on here anymore, but this one really made me angry.... Sorry for the rant.

[future29]

Fontainebleau, on the other hand, is a well known and well established resort in Miami. Most folks and employees refer to it as fountain-blue (which is exactly what Fontainebleau means anyway) so, it's ok to shed the french accent.

This is actually incorrect. blue in french is "bleu". seems like people will always be pronouncing this name incorrectly. i dont think bleau means anything in french, however, the word "l'eau" means water.

[m0nkyman]

And the original reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Fontainebleau) was probably Paris not Miami.

[Vegas Grows Up]

MGM Mirage can go to hell.. I hate people who think that they own the world. These companies are exactly what is wrong with America. These major corporations using their power and influence for their own greedy agenda. Trying to pick a fight with little guys to bully them around. Who cares if someone spells it CityCenter or City Center or Mirage or MIRAGE. It's all symantics and its ridiculous that they are sending out Cease and Desist letters to people who don't spell their name the way they want for their stupid public relations agenda. I hardly ever post anything on here anymore, but this one really made me angry.... Sorry for the rant.

I felt the same way you did at first considering I recieved one of these cease and desist letters. With that being said, the trademarked and branded name is not City Center or Citycenter or Project city Center....it is CityCenter or MGM MIRAGE CityCenter.

Whenever I market my website www.VegasGrowsUp.com I want the VGU capitalized...And its not worth 7.4 billion dollars by any means. :)

Many companies enforce the proper use of their trademarks, fonts, spellings etc.

[Vegas Grows Up]

I have been doing client walkthroughs at Newport Lofts (http://www.vegascondoscene.com/newport-lofts.html) in downtown and must say I am impressed with the quality. Everything feels right. The lobby features fine woods and a soothing modern waterfountain.

You can see two videos below

Lobby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nle9q8xtdJs

Hallways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Sh3jQx3s

Also here is a picture of Juhl with Streamline in background which was taken from one of my clients units.
http://item.slide.com/r/1/14/i/KGVLp3jTtT_dK9wHM8ZaZPQHVcSsuFSV/

[MrVegas]

Hey MrVegas, I don't see that on the agenda sheet yet!

It will be posted on the Planning Commission agenda sheet next week. If you want to see what is going to posted up to 1 week before it is actually posted, you can look at the town board agendas. The town board agendas only list new items, or items that have major modifications, so the list will not include everything that will be on the planning commission agenda. There are 3 town boards covering the strip, so you will have to look at 3 different agendas. Listed below are links to the 3 town boards. After you click on a link, select "Meeting schedules, agendas & minutes", then select the date you want to view.

Winchester Town Board: http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/administrative_services/Town_Services/WinchesterTABindex.htm

Paradise Town Board: http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/administrative_services/Town_Services/ParadiseTABindex.htm

Enterprise Town Board: http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/administrative_services/Town_Services/EnterpriseTABindex.htm

[hotdog]

The owners of the downtown Plaza must be thrilled with their situation. If they win the lawsuit, Elad will probably pay them tons of money for them to change their name and give Elad rights to the Plaza name in Las Vegas. If they lose the lawsuit, they can later on advertise rooms at the Plaza, and unsuspecting tourists will end up staying at their hotel (or paying for a room and just not showing up). And they won't have to worry about being sued by these tourists, because a judge has ruled that the two Plazas are not confusing. While Vegas regulars will know the difference, infrequent visitors will get duped---just like the tourists who want to eat at a Ray's Pizza in NYC and eat at a fake one.

[mdiederi]

The next move by ELAD should be to buy the downtown Plaza and be "front row center" for the new Fremont bridge to the 61 acres. They could then build a new hotel there and name it something different. That would stop this silliness.
:haha:
I almost wonder if forcing a buyout is what Tamares has in mind, since they seem to be incompetent casino managers (http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2007/03/02/news/iq_12690815.txt) and really should get out of the business.

[MrVegas]

Anyone ever take pics of the construction of Aliente Station? I saw groundbreaking was over 5 months ago and was wondering about the progress so far.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3526/aliantestation081107ce2.jpg

[jazfingr]

The owners of the downtown Plaza must be thrilled with their situation. If they win the lawsuit, Elad will probably pay them tons of money for them to change their name and give Elad rights to the Plaza name in Las Vegas. If they lose the lawsuit, they can later on advertise rooms at the Plaza, and unsuspecting tourists will end up staying at their hotel (or paying for a room and just not showing up). And they won't have to worry about being sued by these tourists, because a judge has ruled that the two Plazas are not confusing. While Vegas regulars will know the difference, infrequent visitors will get duped---just like the tourists who want to eat at a Ray's Pizza in NYC and eat at a fake one.


OK, say your a wealthy person and you wish to book a room at The Plaza, you will expect rates of $300 or more. So, when you're quoted a $59 rate (including a free hot dog and Coke) you will probably realize that you've got the wrong Plaza. I doubt Plaza Las Vegas will get any of The Plaza's unsuspecting guests.

I also don't think that Tamares' complaint will hold water since the names (Plaza Las Vegas and The Plaza) are not the same.

Thanks for the Aliante Station shot, Mr V :D

[northbay420]

^interesting crane at the aliante station site. never seen anything like that. anybody know what that crane is used for?!?

[MrVegas]

Trump now has his name in lights on the Las Vegas Strip. Surprisingly, it really isn't any brighter than the nearby Treasure Island lettering.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9394/trumptixf1.jpg

[hotdog]

Jazfingr, your website has the Holiday Inn example http://vegastodayandtomorrow.com/whereisthis.htm where tourists get fooled. It happens---not to frequent visitors to Las Vegas, but to people who have never been to Vegas and heard from a friend that "the Plaza is really nice." And both Plaza Las Vegas and the Plaza are going to be referred to as the Plaza. In fact, on your website http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/the-plaza.htm you use the term "Plaza Las Vegas" to refer to both buildings. I doubt one could open up a "Mandalay Bay Las Vegas" and not expect a phone call from some lawyers. And certainly if Elad's Plaza were open first and Tamares attempted to open their one after, Elad would sue and win. And yeah, the free hot dog and coke might give it away, but I know that when I travel to cities such as NYC, sometimes I'll pay $150/night and sometimes I'll pay $600/night for the same hotel room, on different days of the same week. So most people, and all Vegas regulars, will figure it out. But some will get fooled. If you type in Plaza in Google, Tamares is #2 and the Plaza NYC is #3. That might change when the new Plaza opens up, but that's a lot of internet traffic directed towards the cheap Plaza. I bet the downtown Plaza wins the lawsuit (or more likely they settle).

[hotdog]

The Plaza land deal has closed:
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000242323&fid=1725
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3436400,00.html

[Silas]

Good Points Hotdog. Only natural for downtown Plaza to make a stand.

If both names co-exist, downtown Plaza would do well to build a fancy web site and charge $400 per room. They would probably get quite a few reservations.

I am sure Elad expected this (otherwise they are dumb) and will pay off. Either pay off downtown Plaza or payoff lawyers/judges making the decisions.

[mdiederi]

"Plaza" is a really generic name for a hotel. There are "Plaza" hotels in almost every city in America. There's another one in Carson City, Nevada.
They even have a Plaza hotel in Las Vegas, New Mexico, built in 1882 and older than the one in New York. (http://www.plazahotel-nm.com/)

^interesting crane at the aliante station site. never seen anything like that. anybody know what that crane is used for?!?
Actually that's just your average extra large crawler crane with the extra jib for reaching really far. In that photo the jib is in the down position which they usually do when they're off duty. It's used for lifting things. There are some others at the big projects on the Strip.

[Silas]

But how many cities have two Plaza hotels?

[mdiederi]

The Plaza land deal has closed:
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000242323&fid=1725
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3436400,00.html
That's weird. One article calls it the "Plaza hotel-casino and business center" and the other article calls it the "Plaza Center casino and hotel".

[mdiederi]

But how many cities have two Plaza hotels?
Elad might be able to argue that the Frontier property isn't in the city of Las Vegas, it's in Paradise Township, Clark County. They might also argue that the Strip and downtown are two different markets, which they are. Don't know if they'll win the argument though.

I remember a similar case back when Grand Casinos took over the Stratosphere project and they were thinking of changing the name. MGM Grand put a stop to that.

[Hans Gruber]

Let's just refer to the Plaza or at least the dumpy hole in the wall dowtown Plaza as Biff's.

Trumps building looks like a knockoff to Mandalay Bay. It's totally unoriginal.

[philip]

The Plaza land deal has closed:
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000242323&fid=1725
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3436400,00.html

3800 rooms in such a small plot of land at a cost of $6 Billion Dollars. I wonder if this will be like a maximum density prison clad in Gold.

[jazfingr]

:previous:

38.54 acres is not exactly a small parcel. Remember, the property is mostly undeveloped parking lots. There's plenty of room there for a great resort.

For comparison and contrast:
Fontainebleau (3,898 rooms) is on 24.46 acres
Crown (Las Vegas Tower) will be on 27.1 acres
Palazzo/Venetian jammed 7,000+ rooms into about 43 acres
Cosmopolitan is squeezing 3,000 rooms into less than 9 acres
Luxor (including the mostly unused areas up front) has 4,400 rooms on 41.72 acres.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1329/1096477522_378c1b15d8_o.jpg

[Red UM Rebel]

Wow, the Cosmo is the most impressive with 3000 in 9 acres. Is it even considered a resort though because the building will encompass most of the space?

[oreo]

That's weird. One article calls it the "Plaza hotel-casino and business center" and the other article calls it the "Plaza Center casino and hotel".

don't worry bout that too much. the Israeli press tends to make some mistakes when referring to things outside of Israel (or not in Hebrew).

[mdiederi]

Marriott has assembled over ten acres of land across Paradise Road from the convention center, but they're not saying what their plans are.
http://www.globest.com/news/969_969/lasvegas/163093-1.html

[oreo]

hey guys, sorry to repost this, but what is this?

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3811/pict1898jc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

its right next to World Market Center 3, i know the picture is terrible but i guess u can still see it (picture is from I-15)
thanks

[jazfingr]

:previous:

The World Market Center parking garage.

[oreo]

ah sweet, thought thats what it was but i wasnt sure. thanks bro

[ScottG]

so the black stuff being put on planet hollywood is actually a banner for the new resident evil movie. i kinda like that they are advertising current releases of things, but planet hollywood doesnt not have a movie theatre.......

also the second sign at wynn (the one that advertises the clubs and shows) is getting changed to read Encor (i assume) there is a crane taking off the WYNN.

[peltecs]

3800 rooms in such a small plot of land at a cost of $6 Billion Dollars. I wonder if this will be like a maximum density prison clad in Gold.

So, name the hotel..."THE DIAMOND!" Diamond Hotel Resorts! Diamond Plaza Hotel?

[LA101]

i kinda like that they are advertising current releases of things, but planet hollywood doesnt not have a movie theatre.......

Are there any plans to add a theater complex in the hotel... it would seem only natural.

also the second sign at wynn (the one that advertises the clubs and shows) is getting changed to read Encor (i assume) there is a crane taking off the WYNN.

Speaking of Wynn, I've always liked this commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKnaypXbuQg


...

[mdiederi]

Drove by this morning and they have started work on the foundation for the Palazzo condominium tower. What's the name of that tower?

[mdiederi]

Hilton Resorts will be asking the Planning Commission for permission to increase the height of their next tower during the 08-21-2007 meeting.

They're going to raise it 115 feet taller. Originally approved at 405 feet. So now it will be 520 feet.

[Red UM Rebel]

Drove by this morning and they have started work on the foundation for the Palazzo condominium tower. What's the name of that tower?

I have looked for the name of that project too. I came up empty. It will probably be named something like the condos at the Palazzo or something. That would be my guess. Jaz or anyone else know?

[mdiederi]

The RJ picked up on that Marriott news and found some more info.
http://www.lvrj.com/business/9169217.html

They say they plan to build an upscale Marriott Marquis hotel there. The convention center would like to see an upscale 2,000 room hotel there, since Colony didn't replace the Hilton when they bought it.

[jazfingr]

The Palazzo condo tower is (as yet) un-named. According to the Sands public relations office.
My guess is that is will be Residence at Palazzo or something unexciting like that.

I put up a page on the Marquis. This may be a very cool hotel. :D

[Red UM Rebel]

I put up a page on the Marquis. This may be a very cool hotel. :D

I just stayed in the one in Atlanta, and it was very cool. It looks very different now then the one on your site though jaz, they are in the process of redoing the entire thing.

[Ho-Dog]

That Marquis concept sounds great, a few more options for accomidation near the convention center is a must. its a no brainer if you ask me.

[ScottG]

so the resident evil posters (one on each wing) of planet hollywood actually reads on top, WORLD PREMEIRE AT PH

[mdiederi]

Cosmo, Vdara, CC & Pano
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/cc1-sm.jpg

[ScottG]

great shot- love the sky

[BrianFey]

Laguna - The room at Wynn was $104 a night, on a casino rate basically. You ask how I liked the hotel, well. I've stayed in most of the upper end Vegas hotels, including, Mirage, TI, Venetian, MC, Bellagio, MGM, etc. and I won't stay any where else but Wynn, until Encore opens. As an overall package, its the best Vegas has to offer IMO. The only downfall with Wynn is the location, and in 4 years, it will go from one of the worst locations in town, to one of the best. I will be the only hotel in town almost completely surrounded by all brand new hotels, Echelon, Plaza, Encore, and Palazzo, then FB, just a few blocks up past that. Once again, Wynn could not have possibly picked a better location, for any amount of money. And being sandwished between 3 of the biggest convention centers in town, he'll be able to keep his weekday rates at top dollar also. The amazing part to me, is Wynn is already doing more business than any place in town, except Bellagio. And this is with almost NO walk in traffic. I mean Wynn feels dead, compared to Bellagio, which is a mad house. I can only imagine how much business Wynn will be doing in 4 years. I'd say he'll be running the top hotel in town, in both profits and revenues.

[bluejudad]

Laguna - The room at Wynn was $104 a night, on a casino rate basically. You ask how I liked the hotel, well. I've stayed in most of the upper end Vegas hotels, including, Mirage, TI, Venetian, MC, Bellagio, MGM, etc. and I won't stay any where else but Wynn, until Encore opens. As an overall package, its the best Vegas has to offer IMO. The only downfall with Wynn is the location, and in 4 years, it will go from one of the worst locations in town, to one of the best. I will be the only hotel in town almost completely surrounded by all brand new hotels, Echelon, Plaza, Encore, and Palazzo, then FB, just a few blocks up past that. Once again, Wynn could not have possibly picked a better location, for any amount of money. And being sandwished between 3 of the biggest convention centers in town, he'll be able to keep his weekday rates at top dollar also. The amazing part to me, is Wynn is already doing more business than any place in town, except Bellagio. And this is with almost NO walk in traffic. I mean Wynn feels dead, compared to Bellagio, which is a mad house. I can only imagine how much business Wynn will be doing in 4 years. I'd say he'll be running the top hotel in town, in both profits and revenues.

I admit bias. However, TripAdvisor would back my claim. For the last several months the Signature MGM has been rated the #1 place to stay in Las Vegas. If you stay there, I think you will find the service, caliber of people (both employees and guests), quality of suites and amenities to be second to none. Although, it is a different experience than staying at a "regular hotel". By that, I mean no gaming and smoking. In our recent home owners association meeting, it was revealed to us that the Signature is persuing a 5 star rating. Only, one small part of the Wynn has that.

[mdiederi]

Construction accident at the Palms.
http://klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6947283

[lukemason]

any new plazzo Pics the outside must be close to dun now :)

[jazfingr]

any new plazzo Pics the outside must be close to dun now :)

This one is from 8/16/07 :D

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1375/1163784354_dda176f87d_o.jpg

[lukemason]

thank you man :)

looks nice in the dark even more so when it's lit up soon :)