PDA

View Full Version : LAS VEGAS | Boom Project Rundown! 2.0


Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 [33] 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92

mdiederi
Oct 6, 2007, 5:09 AM
Another CityCenter construction worker died on the job. Fell 55 feet. This is the fourth fatality on the site so far.
http://klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7174262

gudalemandele
Oct 6, 2007, 8:09 AM
Sorry for being off-topic, but what the heck is that on your profile image, VA-Gentleman??

Is that kittens eating a pig?

gmcclenon
Oct 7, 2007, 5:58 PM
And on that note.

Is this the Fontainebleau sales office going in next to Sky?

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Fontainebleausales.jpg

jazfingr
Oct 8, 2007, 1:14 AM
And on that note.

Is this the Fontainebleau sales office going in next to Sky?

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Fontainebleausales.jpg

yep, that's what that is. :D

hotdog
Oct 8, 2007, 5:37 AM
Here is a rendering of the Hard Rock Cafe being built at the showcase mall.
http://images.townnews.com/lvbusinesspress.com/content/articles/2007/10/05/news/iq_17071315.jpg

macmini
Oct 9, 2007, 9:44 PM
Center City looks like it's going to be amazing and one of the few buildings in Las Vegas that the glass of the building doesn't look gaudy. Looking @ the picture of center city you would think you were looking at Dubai.

http://i22.tinypic.com/a32fe0.gif

Hans Gruber
Oct 10, 2007, 12:05 AM
That's a great time lapse pic. Nice job!

Daquan13
Oct 11, 2007, 2:50 AM
Here is a rendering of the Hard Rock Cafe being built at the showcase mall.
http://images.townnews.com/lvbusinesspress.com/content/articles/2007/10/05/news/iq_17071315.jpg



There's already a Hard Rock Cafe there. They need a 2nd one?:shrug:

VegasBound
Oct 11, 2007, 5:02 AM
3430 non-valet parking spaces for 4,700 high-end condominiums?


http://fast.info/vegas/towerpermit.jpg

dallasbrink
Oct 11, 2007, 5:09 AM
i wanna go to Vegas to see all this construction
CRANES CRANES CRANES, i love it!

MrVegas
Oct 11, 2007, 5:37 AM
Fontainebleau Sales Office
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7654/fontsaleshu8.jpg


Glass is now being installed at the Mandarin
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8823/mandarinwt6.jpg

Patrick
Oct 11, 2007, 11:33 PM
omg WPH Architecture got some neww suff.

The Merrill
Revamped latest version of the World View Towers
http://www.wphinc.com/projects/highrise/world/world3.html
http://www.wphinc.com/projects/highrise/world/world2.jpg http://www.wphinc.com/projects/highrise/world/world3.jpg

And new others:

Industrial Road Condominium
http://www.wphinc.com/projects/highrise/industrial.html

Tamares Freemont
http://www.wphinc.com/projects/highrise/tamares.html

http://www.wphinc.com/projects/highrise/industrial/indust.jpg http://www.wphinc.com/projects/highrise/tamares/tamares2.jpg

ScottG
Oct 12, 2007, 2:38 AM
why is this firm doin presentation models in sketchup? no rendering at all? i cant take these projects seriously - they look like college projects

kenratboy
Oct 12, 2007, 5:38 AM
I know you Vegas people don't think of me as the same species (from Reno), but I am proud all of this is happening in my state. Just wish we had something happening in Reno.

future29
Oct 12, 2007, 6:37 AM
http://www.lvrj.com/news/10336642.html

600 rooms at Harrah's closed

Concerns about remodeling prompt move

By JOAN WHITELY
REVIEW-JOURNAL

As a safety precaution, Harrah's Las Vegas early Monday evening closed about 600 of its hotel rooms, relocating affected guests to comparable lodgings at sister properties nearby.

Jan Jones, an executive at Harrah's Entertainment, said the company voluntarily took the step because an ongoing internal investigation had revealed that several larger remodeling projects at Harrah's on the Strip took place without the necessary permits.

The vacated Harrah's rooms account for 15 percent to 20 percent of the property's estimated 3,000 rooms, said Marybel Batjer, vice president of public policy and communications for Harrah's Entertainment.

"I'm not sure that all those rooms had reservations against them," she said.

Harrah's started shuttling some guests to other quarters at about 6 p.m., Batjer said. That is about the same time Harrah's communicated its decisions to county officials including Rory Reid, Clark County Commission chairman, and County Manager Virginia Valentine.

"We value the trust that our guests and communities have placed in us, and the only way we can maintain that trust is to be completely open about the results of the investigation," Jones said in a statement.

The investigation continues, but the company believes its problematic remodeling is "isolated" to Harrah's and the Rio, Jones said.

The county's building division closed two floors of remodeled rooms at the Rio on Saturday, also for lack of proper permits and inspections.

Batjer said the Harrah's rooms will be returned to service as quickly as possible.

"Those rooms that are now being identified will be properly, with the county and with an independent contractor, reviewed, remediated, inspected and ... given a proper certificate of occupancy." She did not predict a timetable for those events.

The property opened in 1973 as the Holiday Casino and Holiday Inn. Harrah's purchased the Holiday Casino in 1983.

Jones said Gary Loveman, Harrah's Entertainment chairman and chief executive officer, has asked company Vice Chairman Chuck Atwood to oversee the response to the inquiry when completed, including any corrective action.

"We will move to immediately develop policies and procedures to ensure these mistakes are not repeated," Jones said.

Contact reporter Joan Whitely at jwhitely@reviewjournal.com or (702) 383-0268.


and this came after news that the Rio was unsafe and was closing down rooms that didnt abide to building codes. Seems like the Harrahs is quick to cut corners. The county probably looks the other way most of the time in these situations. I wonder if this happens with all the other casinos as well. Not a secure feeling knowing you are staying at a place that isnt safe.
I never liked Harrahs and this is even more reason. Will this affect thier future development plans?

Lets not forget the MGM tragedy of 1980, which could have been avoided if the building had adequate saftey standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Grand_Las_Vegas_hotel_fire

Hans Gruber
Oct 12, 2007, 9:50 AM
I stayed at a room in Mandalay Bay on the 38th floor. The entire building is made with steel reinforced concrete. Before Mandalay Bay opened they had a big problem with the ground moving or settling beneath Mandalay. I heard they had to pump tons of concrete under the foundation to fix the problem. I think the sinking problem delayed Mandalay's grand opening close to 1 year.

My point is the room I stayed in did not have a level floor. There were divots under the rug. I was wondering if the movement beneath Mandalay during construction could have caused some floors to move around on the upper floors.

My facts on the Mandalay Bay came mostly from cab drivers and Hotel employees. Obviously, Mandalay is a premier property today. I was quite suprised the floor I stayed on past building inspection when it was built.

The MGM disaster in the current Bally's was a tragedy that forced codes to be changed to prevent future hotel fires.

lfc4life
Oct 12, 2007, 12:23 PM
I stayed at a room in Mandalay Bay on the 38th floor. The entire building is made with steel reinforced concrete. Before Mandalay Bay opened they had a big problem with the ground moving or settling beneath Mandalay. I heard they had to pump tons of concrete under the foundation to fix the problem. I think the sinking problem delayed Mandalay's grand opening close to 1 year.

My point is the room I stayed in did not have a level floor. There were divots under the rug. I was wondering if the movement beneath Mandalay during construction could have caused some floors to move around on the upper floors.

My facts on the Mandalay Bay came mostly from cab drivers and Hotel employees. Obviously, Mandalay is a premier property today. I was quite suprised the floor I stayed on past building inspection when it was built.


true about MB, during construction the building sank by over 2 feet on one side.

not sure about your room, maybe, but more likely there is another reason.

mttbox
Oct 12, 2007, 7:03 PM
10/11 stay at Marriotts chateau today, have a nice view of city center and PH-Tower site right out of our window, here is few shot.

PH-tower.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2633.jpg
city center
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2637.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2636.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2635.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2632.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2631.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2634.jpg

will post more later.

heyyoucharlie
Oct 12, 2007, 7:16 PM
The City Center mall is going up in a hurry!!! That thing will be one amazing building when it's done!!!

dallasbrink
Oct 12, 2007, 9:15 PM
Im going to Vegas in May for a send off party for my best friend, how much of the city center do u think will be done?

lfc4life
Oct 13, 2007, 12:41 AM
Im going to Vegas in May for a send off party for my best friend, how much of the city center do u think will be done?

7 months ago it looked like this, so expect as much new development by then.

http://i21.tinypic.com/6xxfh5.jpg

mttbox
Oct 14, 2007, 1:35 AM
4/13 Plazzo & Barney's NY
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2782.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2753.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2751.jpg
Encore
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2761.jpg
trump
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2777.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2776.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2765.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/vegas/DSCN2756.jpg

Hans Gruber
Oct 14, 2007, 3:57 AM
mttbox, great pics. Those are almost as good quality as the artist, Mdiederi. One question regarding the Palazzo. Is the Palazzo part of Venitian just with a different name? It's next to the Wynn and the Venitian. Is the Palazzo like Encore is to the Wynn? A sister property.

jazfingr
Oct 14, 2007, 8:04 AM
mttbox, great pics. Those are almost as good quality as the artist, Mdiederi. One question regarding the Palazzo. Is the Palazzo part of Venitian just with a different name? It's next to the Wynn and the Venitian. Is the Palazzo like Encore is to the Wynn? A sister property.


Well Hans, that's three questions.

Palazzo is being built between Wynn and Venetian, it is connected on all three levels with the Venetian casino/casino, shopping/shopping, pool/pool.
It, just like Encore, is a sister property and the two will be run as one. Therefore, the room count at Venetian/Palazzo will be 7,000+ and Wynn/Encore will be 4,776

You can see the location on THE Map (http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/condomap.htm)
:D

Hans Gruber
Oct 14, 2007, 7:59 PM
Thank you for the clarification jazfingr. That's what I was thinking. Last time I was in Vegas the Wynn had just opened and the Palazzo was a big hole in the ground.

I looked out the window of an Alladin suite and saw what would become City Center. Nothing in the world gets built faster than architecture in Vegas.

Complex01
Oct 15, 2007, 4:48 PM
Wow those are good pics. I find it amazing everytime I look at pics of City Center, it really is moving at a quick pace...

:yes:

jazfingr
Oct 15, 2007, 5:14 PM
Has anyone noticed the darker color area (which should be the lighter color)This has bugged me for a while now.
.
.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/1579791794_6b33a431cb_o.jpg

Vegas Grows Up
Oct 20, 2007, 6:35 PM
I recently went to many different locations to catch different pictures and videos of CityCenter.

See ALL of them at my

October 2007 MGM CityCenter Photo (http://www.squidoo.com/mgm-mirage-citycenter-photo-update-october-2007/) Update!

Vdara and The Harmon Hotel with TONS of cranes
http://item.slide.com/r/1/179/i/2A9seRbD4D865CiBfZ7gd3LZhofc_pQR/

RETAIL is coming along nice!
http://item.slide.com/r/1/69/i/0WxgnckX6T_PsxnBUWCDq-1brFt5DJcO/

The Harmon Hotel and Cosmo
http://item.slide.com/r/1/184/i/LgplIXJJ4j8VvMJjEWf9py0Vvd4xVIPT/

October 2007 MGM CityCenter Photo (http://www.squidoo.com/mgm-mirage-citycenter-photo-update-october-2007/) Update!

gmcclenon
Oct 21, 2007, 12:50 AM
Ah, back on line. Was having withdrawals. Does anyone know what happened on the 17th at the planning commission meeting with Crown Las Vegas?

Thanks.

fishordie
Oct 21, 2007, 1:44 AM
Has anyone shot any up to date pics of the Cosmopolitan project??? Just curious how it looks lately.

Vegas Grows Up
Oct 21, 2007, 2:47 AM
I have new Cosmo pics too and they'll be posted soon!

lukemason
Oct 21, 2007, 1:41 PM
new pics are allways needed and of the plazzo as well please :)

fishordie
Oct 21, 2007, 5:01 PM
Thank you Aaron,

I look forward to seeing them

DracoCaifan
Oct 21, 2007, 5:17 PM
Yeah!! Looking foward to see updated photos of most of the projects.. Anyone?

MrVegas
Oct 21, 2007, 7:05 PM
Ah, back on line. Was having withdrawals. Does anyone know what happened on the 17th at the planning commission meeting with Crown Las Vegas?

Thanks.

It was held again until the November 20th meeting.

marlab55
Oct 21, 2007, 7:35 PM
The old Ivana/Summit site appears to have changed hands, here's an article. Maybe we'll get something interesting there.:yes:

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/1019biz-lasvegasstrip1020.html

lfc4life
Oct 21, 2007, 8:02 PM
The old Ivana/Summit site appears to have changed hands, here's an article. Maybe we'll get something interesting there.:yes:

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/1019biz-lasvegasstrip1020.html


looks like we can expect another walgreens with a small casino there so :(

the site has permission to build over 900 foot and we get another possible walgreens :tantrum:

Hans Gruber
Oct 21, 2007, 8:38 PM
[QUOTE=Vegas Grows Up;3116759]I recently went to many different locations to catch different pictures and videos of CityCenter.

See ALL of them at my

Those are awful pictures! Everything is out of focus. What kind of camera were you using? Usually the Vegas thread almost always has very high quality shots. I think you may need a new camera or read the instruction manual carefully next time.

lfc4life
Oct 21, 2007, 11:30 PM
^^^ don't listen to him Aaron, you are doing a great job. The videos are great, thanks alot for the contributions.

jazfingr
Oct 21, 2007, 11:36 PM
[QUOTE=Vegas Grows Up;3116759]I recently went to many different locations to catch different pictures and videos of CityCenter.

See ALL of them at my

Those are awful pictures! Everything is out of focus. What kind of camera were you using? Usually the Vegas thread almost always has very high quality shots. I think you may need a new camera or read the instruction manual carefully next time.

Begin RANT: :hell:

Hey, that wasn't very nice ! In fact, it was downright RUDE.

Aaron took the time to post photos (thanks Aaron) it's nice to see the retail at CityCenter from that vantage point. Judging from the sunlight hitting Vdara, and the POV, I'm guessing Aaron was atop the Grand Chateau before sunset (which would account for the darkness and lack of detail).

Hans, this is not a photo contest, when someone goes out of their way to post a photo on this hungry forum, you should either appreciate it (like most of us do) or keep it to yourself.

End RANT: :D

mttbox
Oct 22, 2007, 3:16 AM
Aaron, thanks for your the picture, appreciate it!!

bobmcelligott
Oct 22, 2007, 3:25 AM
Amen brother. Between this forum, Vegas Today and Tomorrow and Vegas Grows Up, I don't miss a thing in Vegas. Thanks Guys:worship:

laguna
Oct 22, 2007, 3:41 AM
how the hell can you make a profit on a Walgreens after you pay tens of millions for the land, millions more for the building and infrastructure. Then you pay a couple of pharmicists about 80k a year each. how much can you overcharge people for condoms and Q tips?

Also, in Vegas a cash bribe to a commisioner is in order.

Vegas Grows Up
Oct 22, 2007, 3:54 AM
.

Red UM Rebel
Oct 22, 2007, 4:57 AM
The Jockey Club is just being eaten, I am glad I am not one of the 1.8 Million owners of the place :)

fishordie
Oct 22, 2007, 6:11 AM
Hey Aaron,

Thanks again for the Pics. Does it appear as if Cosmo is going full blast or does it seem to be going slower since City Center
is growing like a weed or has progress slowed?? Just curious.

dallasbrink
Oct 22, 2007, 6:40 AM
Has anyone noticed the darker color area (which should be the lighter color)This has bugged me for a while now.
.
.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/1579791794_6b33a431cb_o.jpg

what's the problem?

jazfingr
Oct 22, 2007, 7:29 AM
what's the problem?

Everything on the ends of Palazzo (above the crown molding) is a lighter color, except the last few feet. I think it looks dumb.


Originally Posted by Fishordie Does it appear as if Cosmo is going full blast or does it seem to be going slower since City Center
is growing like a weed or has progress slowed?? Just curious.

Look closely at the two photos below. they were taken one month apart. I think the project is moving along nicely.
.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/1686405390_2b75ff9890_o.jpg

Hans Gruber
Oct 22, 2007, 9:24 AM
I'm glad to hear you've got a couple of new high end camera's. These pics below are much better than the others I was critical of earlier.

I think the Las Vegas forum has the best quality images overall on the entire skyscraper forum. For all of us Vegas fans who don't get to Vegas often enough, a great shot makes me feel like I'm there.

As much as I would like to say good pictures are the byproduct of a good photographer, I think some of the newer digital cameras make amateurs look like professional photographers.

I look forward to your new camera pics, Vegas grows up!

Thank you to everyone who enjoys my updates. Regarding my camera, I purchased two brand new high end cameras this weekend. Look for MUCH better quality photos on future updates! (these were taken last week)

As far as video...quality on that will improve in near future but not just yet until I get my new computer and software setup :)


You can see all 21 photos and 6 videos at my Oct 2007 Las Vegas strip condo (http://www.squidoo.com/las-vegas-strip-condo-photo-update-oct-07/) Photo update


Cosmopolitan Resort and Beach Club Tower
http://item.slide.com/r/1/111/i/vzdEOUpO4T9Ijg5cBEdOWqrpNVhr-2MD/

Fontainebleau parking garage getting REAL tall
http://item.slide.com/r/1/254/i/S-cK9Vas5D_ldcwYTe7HLBUcpVRr-ouZ/

CVS opens at Sky! Residents are very happy
http://item.slide.com/r/1/310/i/BAViBkE_2T_s8BoMuMxo9Lflr5fE39lF/

McDonalds getting ready to move 2 parcels up (north)
http://item.slide.com/r/1/299/i/QJqqMc-aij8dVMTM7kAXprFQkStlcQG-/

Cosmo Beach Club Tower
http://item.slide.com/r/1/97/i/UGYeRA6B4T-VQ6TlCl_yGoPEH-yvDrCo/

Frontier about to fall as Encore rises high and proud!
http://item.slide.com/r/1/48/i/oaMsX4UJ5j-6dyM3-DA1OFvsI5i0WYN6/


You can see all 21 photos and 6 videos at my Oct 2007 Las Vegas strip condo (http://www.squidoo.com/las-vegas-strip-condo-photo-update-oct-07/) Photo update

gmcclenon
Oct 22, 2007, 3:42 PM
It was held again until the November 20th meeting.

Ah - what a shocker. Must still be arm wrestling over every last inch. Hope they don't mess around much longer. Capital markets are a little dicey.

lfc4life
Oct 22, 2007, 3:44 PM
anyone know how tall the fontainebleau parking garage is going to end up??

that thing is already huge

Superfish
Oct 22, 2007, 5:19 PM
Fontainebleau vs Turnberry Place
http://www.lvrj.com/business/10627752.html

"We're not going to buy a 20-acre property and leave it as a vacant lot," he said. "It's a property with proper zoning and nothing was ever promised. It's as simple as that. What are they going to do with the Wet 'n Wild site? Are they going to say they deceived them? The Riviera may be torn down and rebuilt. Are they going to oppose every project? What about the Jockey Club? What about the 8,000 employees we'll have and the taxes we pay? The bottom line is you can't please everyone."

"We bought on the third floor. We were not looking for a view," Stapleton said. "Our concern is now the toxins and noise and pollutants are absolutely going to be unbearable. Five thousand cars and trucks going in and out daily, right about 70 feet from our balcony. I think it's absolutely criminal to build this monstrosity here."

This is shaping up to be very interesting. Sure the Turnberry Place rsidents say it's not about views and more about living next door to a parking garage with 5000 cars coming in and out each day, but did Fontianebleau decieive the county in getting their permits for the height?

Silas
Oct 22, 2007, 7:08 PM
I looked at a Turnberry condo a few years ago just for kicks. The guy (Eddy) was really nice and gave me the full tour. As we were talking out on the patio of one of the units I couldn't help but notice there was that humongous Hilton sign. It iw really huge! - like 20 stories. Doesn't seem like much when you're driving around but to look right at it from 10 floors up - wow! Flashing funky Hilton sign does not really say 'luxury' but it was kind of funny. Anybod have a picture of this iconic sign? It is simply one of a kind.

On a more positive side of T-berry view - some of the units had awesome views of Stratosphere outside of round windows - felt just like the Jetsons.

I feel for the guys who have to look at the 20-story parking garage. They knew something was coming in - but did they thing T-berry itself would work them so bad? Oh well.

heyyoucharlie
Oct 22, 2007, 7:41 PM
Ah - what a shocker. Must still be arm wrestling over every last inch. Hope they don't mess around much longer. Capital markets are a little dicey.

I would venture a guess that they are in a redesign phase (something closer to the 1200 number not the 1888)... And, it would not at all surprise me if they were purposely going slow because Fountainbleau is paying rent to use the land as a stageing area, but who knows???

neworleans
Oct 22, 2007, 8:56 PM
You always hear about cities trying to revitalize their downtown. They build new condos, and new shops, hoping to bring people from the suburban areas back into the downtown area. But they lack one thing; they forget the most important thing of all… a place to park. Unless you live there, in which case they only give you one spot. Go downtown in any city and there are very few places where you don’t have to pay. Some lots will charge you $5 ever 20 minutes, others, like meters, you have a time limit and you’re always worrying about running out of time. You can never just enjoy yourself. . If you have a vehicle and you want to stay at any hotel in downtown New Orleans, you have to pay 20-30 dollars a night for valet parking. Better to stay at a hotel out in the city. I guess land is just too important to build a parking garage in a downtown. I always look at it this way; imagine a mall w/ no parking lots. Well on the Las Vegas Strip there’s always a place to park.

When I heard awhile back that the Monte Carlo parking lot was destroyed to make way for the City Center, I was devastated. I thought that the strip was growing so fast that it was going to turn into another downtown. I mean look at downtown Las Vegas. Most of the parking down there you can only park for 3 hrs and then they start charging you. I’m sure this is because of the old grid system cities used to go by.

The other day though, I had a chance to go to the Bellagio and see the model of the city center. When I realized that the reason they tore down the Monte Carlo parking garage was to build an even bigger one, I was so excited. This new garage next to the City Center power plant and behind the Monte Carlo is way bigger than the old one. ALRIGHT!!!! I was also happy to see that they are building a big parking garage for the world market center, even though the renderings showed additional phases to the project.

Silas
Oct 22, 2007, 10:52 PM
simple reason for this general parking issue (Vegas Strip vs. general downtown areas):

public entities can afford to be stupid. Private entities can't.

Don Pacho
Oct 23, 2007, 2:25 AM
I looked at a Turnberry condo a few years ago just for kicks. The guy (Eddy) was really nice and gave me the full tour. As we were talking out on the patio of one of the units I couldn't help but notice there was that humongous Hilton sign. It iw really huge! - like 20 stories. Doesn't seem like much when you're driving around but to look right at it from 10 floors up - wow! Flashing funky Hilton sign does not really say 'luxury' but it was kind of funny. Anybod have a picture of this iconic sign? It is simply one of a kind.

On a more positive side of T-berry view - some of the units had awesome views of Stratosphere outside of round windows - felt just like the Jetsons.

I feel for the guys who have to look at the 20-story parking garage. They knew something was coming in - but did they thing T-berry itself would work them so bad? Oh well.


Here it is :) :

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2686/lasvegasmonorail012saa8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

jazfingr
Oct 23, 2007, 2:41 AM
The Hilton sign is a high-rise alright, it's 279' tall, it's equivalent to a 28-story building. It has a surface area of or 70,000 square feet and it's 40' thick. Think of a 70,000 SqFt, four story building on it's end.
It is classified as the largest and tallest sign in the world. :notacrook:

Red UM Rebel
Oct 23, 2007, 2:51 AM
Hey jazzy,

Great shot on your site (Bellagio fountains and CC), but it makes me wonder, how many stories have they completed right now on CityCenter, and how many have glass already completed?

Silas
Oct 23, 2007, 3:05 AM
Uncle Frank and Jazz/VegasTaT --

Thanks for that photo and the info! You can imagine the scene, standing on the balcony as 'Hilton' is flashing in all its' glory! Fantastic shot as it also highlights the Stratosphere view. Uncle Frank - nice job! VegasTaT - great info!

Vegas Grows Up
Oct 23, 2007, 3:51 AM
Great facts Vegas Tat and cool photo Pacho!

jazfingr
Oct 23, 2007, 3:58 AM
OK, the 70,000 square foot figure bugged me. It seemed too big. So, i jumped into sketchup and created a scale-model. I was right, it's not 70,000. It's only 28,128 square feet. Still, f-huge for a sign.
.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/1701691391_a79f78a2bd_o.jpg

mdiederi
Oct 23, 2007, 4:05 AM
Did you ever see the other Hilton sign that fell over? It was even taller than this one at 365 feet. The lettering was much wider and placed at the very top of the sign making it really top heavy. You could read it from Saint Rose Parkway! A few months after it was built the whole thing blew over in an 80 mile gust of wind one night, landing in the convention center parking lot.

Can't find a picture of it standing, but here's a photo after the collapse.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/disasters/P000044585.jpg
Las Vegas Hilton sign after it collapsed in a wind storm. The photo appeared in the July 20, 1994, edition of the Sun.
© LEE ZAICHICK / LAS VEGAS SUN FILE PHOTO

mdiederi
Oct 23, 2007, 4:32 AM
how the hell can you make a profit on a Walgreens after you pay tens of millions for the land, millions more for the building and infrastructure. Then you pay a couple of pharmicists about 80k a year each. how much can you overcharge people for condoms and Q tips?

Also, in Vegas a cash bribe to a commisioner is in order.
They don't know what to do with the Holy Cow site yet. The same group owns the little sliver of land where the Palazzo condo tower is being built and there will be a Walgreens there below the condo. Palazzo only has the air rights above and will also have 6 floors of retail above and around the Walgreens. It's less than an acre, but they paid the equivalent of $50 million an acre, so it was a higher price per acre than the Plaza deal.

Ah - what a shocker. Must still be arm wrestling over every last inch. Hope they don't mess around much longer. Capital markets are a little dicey.
They have until next summer to close the deal on the land, so maybe they are also using that time to wait for the capital markets to rebound. Also, PBL is going through a bunch of corporate changes right now, trying to spin off Crown as a separate company and even hinting of going private.

VegasBound
Oct 23, 2007, 5:32 AM
I looked at a Turnberry condo a few years ago just for kicks. As we were talking out on the patio of one of the units I couldn't help but notice there was that humongous Hilton sign. It is really huge! - like 20 stories. Doesn't seem like much when you're driving around but to look right at it from 10 floors up - wow! Flashing funky Hilton sign does not really say 'luxury' but it was kind of funny. Anybody have a picture of this iconic sign? It is simply one of a kind.


I give the Wynn sign a 10. I give the Hilton sign a 2. I hope they replace it someday soon. I have a good view of it from my front window. The size doesn't bother me, just wish it had some appeal.

laguna
Oct 23, 2007, 6:26 AM
It appears from the photos that the structural steel is not as thick on Fountainbleau as it is on Cosmo and CityCenter.It doesnt look as solidly built. Is it an optical thing or an angle illusion? In person what does it look like in comparison?

lfc4life
Oct 23, 2007, 2:43 PM
is this the one??? there was another sign which looked similiar to the current one just leaner but i think this is the one that fell

http://i24.tinypic.com/a3yt1x.jpg

mdiederi
Oct 23, 2007, 4:07 PM
It appears from the photos that the structural steel is not as thick on Fountainbleau as it is on Cosmo and CityCenter.It doesnt look as solidly built. Is it an optical thing or an angle illusion? In person what does it look like in comparison?
That steel frame at Fontainebleau is just the garage and convention area and that's as high as it will go. The hotel tower is a separate structure and made of concrete.

mdiederi
Oct 23, 2007, 4:09 PM
is this the one??? there was another sign which looked similiar to the current one just leaner but i think this is the one that fell

http://i24.tinypic.com/a3yt1x.jpg
No, that's a really, really old sign from the seventies or eighties. The one that blew over was built in '93-'94 and fell over a few months later. It was only ten feet shorter than the hotel.

Silas
Oct 23, 2007, 5:01 PM
I know nothing about structural engineering - but it's a fact that part of the F-blue paking garage collapsed recently. Could be totally unrelated to the steel framing issue. Or ... ?

One thing I know for sure is those guys must have balls made out of steel if they are going to try to sell condos in this market.

lfc4life
Oct 23, 2007, 5:25 PM
http://i23.tinypic.com/ac8p3q.jpg

mdiederi
Oct 23, 2007, 5:33 PM
Yeah, that's it! Looks like the top half fell off. Gad, those colors were horrible. :yuck:

stashu
Oct 23, 2007, 8:05 PM
Big fan of the TV Show Las Vegas and just wondered if Turnberry gets any credit on the show or has anything locally saying "as seen on Las Vegas." For those of you familiar with the show, whenever they show Danny's home, they zoom through town and seem to end right at Turnberry.

Sorry if I derailed anything, with mention of the place here I just thought of that.

Silas
Oct 24, 2007, 5:24 AM
My compliments to Mark D. for the photo.

How ironic that City Center -- excuse me -- MGM-MIRAGE CityCenter -- has to play mind games and legal games with their photos and promotional materials.

It seems they would do well to hire Mark and/or VegasTaT and the other artists on this site. That is really great artisitic shot that shows of CityCenter nicely. I am impressed at how nice this humongous project is looking.

MrVegas
Oct 24, 2007, 7:56 PM
It looks like the FAA denied Milans request for the 1888' Crown Las Vegas tower. According to this article in the LVRJ, Milan is now proposing a height of 1,150' - a foot taller than the Stratosphere.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/10761231.html

lukemason
Oct 25, 2007, 6:10 AM
i dont see why the FAA has a say in anything here .

jazfingr
Oct 25, 2007, 8:08 AM
My compliments to Mark D. for the photo.

How ironic that City Center -- excuse me -- MGM-MIRAGE CityCenter -- has to play mind games and legal games with their photos and promotional materials.

It seems they would do well to hire Mark and/or VegasTaT and the other artists on this site. That is really great artistic shot that shows of CityCenter nicely. I am impressed at how nice this humongous project is looking.

Yes, Mark...thanks for your great eye. Is that photo HDR?
The home page at VegasTaT (http://vegastodayandtomorrow.com/index.htm) has become an unannounced photo contest. Pertinence is always a priority and I always choose the most artistic/pertinent photo.
I wish I lived in Vegas so I could compete.

This week it was a toss-up between two of Mark D's photos. His glistening Wynn towers photo (below) is also a great shot.

LOL, Silas, for the MGM spelling thing. what's really funny is you still got it wrong, there's no hyphen between MGM and MIRAGE.

I created a new video and would love for you guys to go to YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmDD28RCVtw)and rate it. Leave a comment too. It's an aerial tour of the strip and the construction projects. It's a bit blurry because it was too big and I needed to compress it. But, I think everyone here will dig it. :D
.
.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2367/1741907400_463d5bf677.jpg

goldcntry
Oct 25, 2007, 2:50 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2367/1741907400_463d5bf677.jpg

OMGosh! :psycho: Wow Jaz... that pic of the Wynn complex is just amazing...

jazfingr
Oct 25, 2007, 8:45 PM
:previous:

You need to thank mdiederi for that one.

mdiederi
Oct 25, 2007, 11:22 PM
Is that photo HDR?
No.

Here, I can take out of phocus fotos too. I was trying to capture the welding embers cascading down three floors of the Cosmo at night. Didn't have a tripod with me. It's pretty trippy to watch in person if you can get over to the Bellagio parking garage roof at night.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Cosmopolitan/CosmoWelding.jpg

hotdog
Oct 26, 2007, 6:31 AM
The New Frontier is coming down at 2:30am on Nov 13. http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentID=169394

Complex01
Oct 26, 2007, 2:13 PM
OMGosh! :psycho: Wow Jaz... that pic of the Wynn complex is just amazing...

Agreed, that pic is amazing. I love those colors...

:cool:

Red UM Rebel
Oct 26, 2007, 3:18 PM
Both the pictures and the YouTube video are awesome. Thanks you guys!

Vegas Grows Up
Oct 26, 2007, 3:20 PM
Great shots mdiederi!

Patrick
Oct 27, 2007, 7:20 AM
It looks like the FAA denied Milans request for the 1888' Crown Las Vegas tower. According to this article in the LVRJ, Milan is now proposing a height of 1,150' - a foot taller than the Stratosphere.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/10761231.html

I hope so, seriously, Crown Las Vegas, ew.

jazfingr
Oct 29, 2007, 2:59 AM
:banana:

Google Earth just updated the whole Las Vegas Valley
As if I didn't have enough to keep me occupied.
The image is from late May '07 based on the six stripes on Encore.

You can now see the exact placement of the CityCenter and Fontainebleau towers.

They also added the monorail and monorail stations...too cool

heyyoucharlie
Oct 29, 2007, 5:49 AM
Found this cool pic in the LV Review Journal...

http://media.lvrj.com/images/2198816.jpg

Link: http://media.lvrj.com/images/2198816.jpg

CHAPINM1
Oct 29, 2007, 6:15 AM
I've heard that Fountainebleau is going to be 735 feet/63 floors AND 725 feet/60 floors, which is true? I personally believe that it will be 60 floors, because even though it is being credited as 63 floors it probably will not have a 13th floor among a couple others. I've seen both height and floor figures in various news articles. Also, how far are they with construction and what is to be on top floors when done? I don't know if this is accurate, but is there going to possibly be a restaurant or lounging area. By the renderings it appears that there will be something at the top.

On a side note to the forumer above, I'm not going to hesitate to say that is one kickass photo to say the least!!!

lfc4life
Oct 29, 2007, 1:18 PM
I've heard that Fountainebleau is going to be 735 feet/63 floors AND 725 feet/60 floors, which is true? I personally believe that it will be 60 floors, because even though it is being credited as 63 floors it probably will not have a 13th floor among a couple others. I've seen both height and floor figures in various news articles. Also, how far are they with construction and what is to be on top floors when done?

* original plan called for a 725 foot tower, however they went back to the county to up that to 735 feet http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0189923.htm

* as for current construction they are currently working on the 8th or 9th floor of the main tower from what i hear.

* the top floors will be condos i believe (now i may be completely wrong on this of course)

ScottG
Oct 29, 2007, 4:05 PM
echelon place has about 3 or 4 mobile cranes running around - quite large too. they are digging underground (seems to be a new trend on the strip) and actually they are pretty far already. fountainebleau has at least 3 or 4 cranes on site. with these two project its a huge pile of cranes - maybe more than city center....maybe not. the palazzo condos.....what that name? has 2 cranes up and it looks like the venetian sign as some small cranes on it - or some construction to it.

Vegas Grows Up
Nov 2, 2007, 2:44 AM
I have put together a sales update for all major strip projects as of November 07.

Get the latest new and re sale inventory stats at my Las Vegas Strip Condo Update (http://www.squidoo.com/lasvegasluxurycondominiums/)

ScottG
Nov 2, 2007, 2:50 AM
ok- this weekend (most like next) im goin to walk the strip and take pictures of lots of things that have not been shown yet- some great street view / perspectives are worth getting on film -ill post them a.s.a.p.

i noticed there is a new large crane erected right behind CVS on city center site - why? mandarin is all ready n the air and is not near the rear of CVS. and why such a large crane? ill have many pictures soon (promise)

also last night the strat did not have its pod lights on. it was such the spot lights lighting the tower and the big shot lights were off too. i kinda liked it - it made a more dramatic stance for its heights - great shadows along the pod - like when you hold a flash light under your chin and your face is 'scary'

anyways - ill give many pictures of great sites im seeing as i drive down the strip

Taurus702B
Nov 2, 2007, 7:00 AM
ok- this weekend (most like next) im goin to walk the strip and take pictures of lots of things that have not been shown yet- some great street view / perspectives are worth getting on film -ill post them a.s.a.p.

i noticed there is a new large crane erected right behind CVS on city center site - why? mandarin is all ready n the air and is not near the rear of CVS. and why such a large crane? ill have many pictures soon (promise)

also last night the strat did not have its pod lights on. it was such the spot lights lighting the tower and the big shot lights were off too. i kinda liked it - it made a more dramatic stance for its heights - great shadows along the pod - like when you hold a flash light under your chin and your face is 'scary'

anyways - ill give many pictures of great sites im seeing as i drive down the strip

I work at the Stratosphere and they accidently left the Big Shot lights on all day on Wednesday and I guess they shut them off the next night for the whole day. I don't know about the pod though. There are rumors going around at the property that the rides are going to close for good because of the buyout to Goldman Sachs.

JonVegas
Nov 2, 2007, 10:07 PM
I mean look at downtown Las Vegas. Most of the parking down there you can only park for 3 hrs and then they start charging you. I’m sure this is because of the old grid system cities used to go by.


Main St. Station is free and so is the El Cortez. Also if you're hitting up the beauty bar or Griffin, there's plenty of street parking and it's free at night.

You should NEVER have to pay for parking downtown or on the strip. Anywhere you need to go you can walk to from any of the free parking garages.

jazfingr
Nov 3, 2007, 12:28 AM
Allure Tower II :yes:
An FAA application for the height of Allure II was filed on 10/22/07. The application states that Allure II will be 795' tall (considerably taller than the existing 466-foot-tower) with construction starting in December, 2009 and completion proposed for October, 2011.

Conrad/Waldorf cancelled :no:
The 5.43-acre property that was going to be used for the Conrad/Waldorf project was sold to Las Vegas North Strip Holdings LLC for $180 million (or $33.149 million/acre). Nothing has been mentioned as to the plans for the property from the current owner.

Icon property :shrug:
I also discovered a application to the FAA for eight (yes, eight) 572' towers for the old Icon site. The project is called Kalpana and I cant find anything else about it. Eight, 572' towers on a 4.8 acre site?????

jazfingr
Nov 3, 2007, 10:51 AM
OK, It seems the Triple-Five is buying the Conrad site and the Icon Site along with the Villa Roma Inn (on Convention Center Rd.) The Peppermill and Walgreens are also in play. This explains the eight tower casino-resort proposal. The total land assembled will be 25 acres if all goes through. :tup:

Superfish
Nov 3, 2007, 5:35 PM
doublepost

Superfish
Nov 3, 2007, 5:36 PM
Yea I predicted a while back Allure II may be in that height range. It was probably great news to them hearing about the MGM proposal across the street and that's probably why they're gonna wait that long. Heck they may not stop there, all of Sahara on that side may one day be filled with towers... You Oscar will approve them.

8 towers whoa. Well if true, maybe this will finally fill that gap there on the strip's east side with something decent. Still you had to remind me but I really liked Icon it was by far the best looking of the first wave high rises proposals that had some chance of being built...

What is the actual property layout if I may ask? Will that boring Ross store be bought out too? That area looks like some random strip mall corner with that instead of the glitzy strip as it should be.

Still 25 acres still sounds tight for 8 towers. I guess if they are the mostly narrow and vertical skyscraper types it would work vs a regular wide hotel tower.

Vegas Grows Up
Nov 3, 2007, 6:35 PM
Excited about these announcements across from Echelon as it will help fill in the gap. The Allure announcement is also healthy and exciting. The north section of LV Blvd will be nice and new in 5 years!

Speaking of new, the current focus is on CityCenter. I recently outlined the Top 7 Reasons why it will rule the strip for a long time to come.

Example - Employees will clamor to work at CityCenter because of the level of air quality? 14,000 permanent new jobs will be created in 2009 at CC. Many employees will stay for decades due to health reasons alone.

Read the rest of the article Top 7 Reasons why CityCenter Rules the Strip (http://www.squidoo.com/mgm-mirage-citycenter/)

Hans Gruber
Nov 3, 2007, 8:26 PM
I have edited my previous post because an unnamed forum member thought my comments were off base. The Las Vegas forum has the highest quality photos throughout the skyscraper forum page. At some point in time I was critical of several low quality images on the Las Vegas forum page. I have no ill will or bad feelings towards any posters in this forum.

I was mistaken in thinking the Top 7 reasons why City center rules the strip was written by a narcisist. After researching my previous statement and rereading narcissistic personality disorder in DSM-IV.

I was incorrect in thinking that an unnamed poster for two years has demonstrated narcissistic personality traits. According to DSM-IV, individuals with this disorder have a drandiose sense of self-importance. They routinely overestimate their abilities and inflate their accomplishments often appearing boastful and pretentious. They may blithely assume that otheres attribute the same value to their efforts and may be suprised whent he praise they expect and feel they deserve is not forthcoming.

This is clearly not the case in the above post, so I have removed my previous post.