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goldcntry
Jan 18, 2008, 5:55 PM
the side lights on the palazzo (th eones in question a while back shin red and purple) i spotted them one...in white, but now they are still off.....

something i like is that on the roof of the palazzo there are 2 sets of spot lights each with 5 beams hitting the sky a random angles....not nearly as dominant as the luxor...actually its very faint....it makes the palazzo look like its glowing against the night sky.

Pics or it didn't happen! :whip:

:tomato:

rhassoii
Jan 19, 2008, 1:30 AM
I think this is what he was talking about, from vegas t&t:

http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/palazzo%20construction%20070910a.jpg

pablosan
Jan 19, 2008, 1:43 AM
Wow, it's great to see so much construction going on in Las Vegas.

cosmo2k8
Jan 19, 2008, 2:40 PM
Some good news:

Deutsche Bank to continue paying for casino construction: Perini

Jan 18 (Reuters) - Perini Building Co Inc, a unit of Perini Corp (PCR.N: Quote, Profile, Research), said Deutsche Bank will continue paying for the construction of Cosmopolitan Resort and Casino project in Las Vegas, Nevada, while the issues of loan default with the developer are being resolved.

The company's work at the Cosmopolitan will continue unaffected by the default notice, it added.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUKWNAS700120080118?rpc=44

Cheers!

ScottG
Jan 19, 2008, 6:31 PM
^^^^ those red and purple light were last sen (by me) as white now......but then they added spot lights on the top of the roof too

justdefended
Jan 19, 2008, 6:39 PM
Some good news:

Deutsche Bank to continue paying for casino construction: Perini

Jan 18 (Reuters) - Perini Building Co Inc, a unit of Perini Corp (PCR.N: Quote, Profile, Research), said Deutsche Bank will continue paying for the construction of Cosmopolitan Resort and Casino project in Las Vegas, Nevada, while the issues of loan default with the developer are being resolved.

The company's work at the Cosmopolitan will continue unaffected by the default notice, it added.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUKWNAS700120080118?rpc=44

Cheers!

That is great news. It doesn't benefit anyone to have an unfinished building sitting there. I think Cosmo will wind up looking great next to CityCenter.

DracoCaifan
Jan 20, 2008, 2:23 AM
I think we all are waiting for pics of the palazzo grand opening!!! Where are they?

ScottG
Jan 21, 2008, 8:40 PM
also palms place as lit up there vertical white stripes that start half way up the tower and end at various heights....looks nice, but i'd like to see the rest of the tower lit too.


NO PICS OF THAT EITHER!

marlab55
Jan 21, 2008, 9:01 PM
Fontainebleau progress as seen from the Allure.
http://www.eshuen.com/images/FB_fr_Allure_1-18-08.JPG

neworleans
Jan 22, 2008, 4:37 AM
im glad u posted the pic because i was wondering what it looked like so far. I was thinking about how they pronounced Fontainebleau and it is pronounced like a water fountain and the color blue. That is, “fountain blue. At least according to video on their web site.

http://www.fontainebleau.com/miami/video.php

WonderlandPark
Jan 22, 2008, 5:23 AM
Holy crap Fountainebleu is going up fast, that is the garage, left, right? Its freaking huge, more than halfway up one of the Tunberry towers.

jazfingr
Jan 22, 2008, 9:58 AM
The bottom half is parking garage, the top half is conference center.

Complex01
Jan 22, 2008, 2:41 PM
Looking good...

:yes:

VegasMatt
Jan 22, 2008, 10:03 PM
Union Park has updated it's website with new video, pictures and info.

Check out here:

http://www.unionparkvegas.com/

mdiederi
Jan 22, 2008, 11:11 PM
Here's another Font photo from the other side, shot a little over a week ago. Sales office in the foreground
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font2-9.jpg

mdiederi
Jan 22, 2008, 11:52 PM
Cluster of Echelon cranes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Echelon/ech.jpg

VA_Gentleman
Jan 22, 2008, 11:57 PM
The speed at which buildings go up in Vegas is unrivaled in the U.S. Incredible.

Red UM Rebel
Jan 23, 2008, 12:19 AM
Cluster of Echelon cranes.


Great shot! I love the contrast between Wynn and the Palazzo in the background

solstadwest
Jan 23, 2008, 2:47 AM
Is anyone Bailing on their Cosmo Units?

DracoCaifan
Jan 23, 2008, 3:46 AM
Holy Cow!!! I would love to see The two towers from Wynn, Palazzo and Trump all in one photo.... that would be nice!! Someone?

fishordie
Jan 23, 2008, 5:14 AM
Is anyone Bailing on their Cosmo Units?

No one is bailing. When the project gets built we owners are going to be very very happy.... Unless you signed up with the management company... It is going to be stunning. That property is waaay to valuable to be stopped. Be it Eichner or someone else, the ease of use due to the smaller size of the property and the immediate access from the street, the partnering with Wolfgang Puck for room service and for this site the shear beauty of it should make this project attractive for some investors. Add the central location and a ton of other amenities this is a winner for we owners.

Fish or die

mdiederi
Jan 24, 2008, 6:25 AM
I think we all are waiting for pics of the palazzo grand opening!!! Where are they?
I already posted photos from the soft opening over New Year's, and I went back last night after the grand opening, and nothing was different. The only thing different is that some of the hotel rooms are open now and you can walk through the mall. Still most of the restaurants aren't open and most of the shops in the mall aren't open. The mall is a bunch of hallways. There are some new photos over at ratevegas.com (http://www.ratevegas.com/photo/gallery/palazzo). This time I parked in the underground parking and it is a lot better than I thought it would be, the escalator takes you straight to the casino, so you don't have to walk a mile like a lot of these places.

ScottG
Jan 24, 2008, 9:35 PM
why would anyone bail out on cosmo? it didnt even suffer construction delays - the financin was settle within days - te developers expected it to fall with their current envestors.



union park looks promiseing. fountainbleau looks goods. i work at the firm that is doin FB (they also did paris trump grand chatteau treasure island,) let me just say the final product will definitly be something out of miami. what im interested in seeing is how the FB will manage with the large gap from where the 'action' is (at least for now).....whats the deal? diagrams have been forgotten about? i love those things dispite my lack of involvment.

mdiederi
Jan 25, 2008, 1:32 AM
The obvious reason Eichner said he expected the default notice is because he can't make the payments on the construction loan.

The separate construction financing deal that Perini struck with Deutsche Bank is only a month to month deal because legally Deutsche has to wait three months before starting actual foreclosure proceedings. If Eichner doesn't get his act together there might be some really bad news in two and a half months.

The money from condo buyers should still be in escrow and should be safe if they want to just ride it out and wait for a white knight to take over the project when they can pick it up for a discount after Eichner goes bankrupt.

Maybe Silas was right a year ago. (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2751111&postcount=1931)
:cool: Solstadt, re: Cosmo:

I don't have any inside infor or anything - but my gut tells me that this Cosmo project is still somewhat in doubt. ...

DracoCaifan
Jan 25, 2008, 1:56 AM
I already posted photos from the soft opening over New Year's, and I went back last night after the grand opening, and nothing was different. The only thing different is that some of the hotel rooms are open now and you can walk through the mall. Still most of the restaurants aren't open and most of the shops in the mall aren't open. The mall is a bunch of hallways. There are some new photos over at ratevegas.com (http://www.ratevegas.com/photo/gallery/palazzo). This time I parked in the underground parking and it is a lot better than I thought it would be, the escalator takes you straight to the casino, so you don't have to walk a mile like a lot of these places.


Thanks for the info... So in reality there is not much new to see... I was hoping for the mall to be open.... but, as you just told me... It isn't... Well, I'm going to have to wait then......

mdiederi
Jan 25, 2008, 3:57 AM
The Barney's store is open, which is the biggest store there, and there were a handful of small boutique shops open, but I'd say about 70% of the stores are not open yet. But you can walk around the hallways of the mall, which is kind of strange with so much unfinished.

BrandonJXN
Jan 25, 2008, 7:34 PM
I'm sure you guys know this (I'm sure) but the Monte Carlo is on fire.

WonderlandPark
Jan 25, 2008, 7:39 PM
Yeah watching it now. Looks like the facade is burning, almost as if was built out of flammable material.

GeorgeLV
Jan 25, 2008, 8:24 PM
I'm sure you guys know this (I'm sure) but the Monte Carlo is on fire.

FYI, the local news has had to devote an inordinate amount of time to debunking various fictional reports on Fox News which falsely reported that workers were trapped and several other hotels were evacuated.

ScottG
Jan 25, 2008, 8:32 PM
"People have reportedly been evacuated from the Monte Carlo, and new guests were being turned away. The Bellagio and New York-New York casinos were prepared to evacuate if necessary." (from fox news)


i know people who work in NYNY and they are not told of any evac plans....


there would be no need to evacuate bellagio or NYNY, the hotels are hundreds of feet apart, unless monte carlo completely blew up, there would be no danger to its neighbors.

the fire is out now, but the entire top portion of the tower (where the sign rests) is gone along the south end.... it doesnt look like any rooms where in the blaze, maybe the ceilings, but you can see that the windows are right below the damage....falling debri caught 2 seperate parts of the tower on fire a few floors down, but were put out.......




i drove on trop passes the strip at 1145 from school to work, the strip was closed with dozens of firetrucks infront of the hotel, very eerie, there were still pedestrians, but the road was empty. people were parked along the I-15 (freeway) to watch and take pictures.

JDRCRASH
Jan 25, 2008, 9:22 PM
No, Monte Carlo!
:ahhh:

drobar
Jan 25, 2008, 9:35 PM
I was able to get some pics from the Hacienda overpass.....


http://www.flickr.com/photos/27851274@N00/2218767047/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27851274@N00/2219559362/

lfc4life
Jan 25, 2008, 9:58 PM
they are saying the fire started probably in a kitchen, very lucky the whole thing didn't go up in flames, damage is really only minimal from what it looked like would happen at 11.15am local time

Congrats to the Las vegas fire department for a great job :worship:

mdiederi
Jan 25, 2008, 10:24 PM
I can't see your photos drobar.

I got some shots of it too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/mc%20fire/mc2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/mc%20fire/mcpano.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/mc%20fire/mcpano2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/mc%20fire/ccmc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/mc%20fire/mc1.jpg

Hans Gruber
Jan 25, 2008, 10:28 PM
Rumor has it welders were on the Monte Carlo roof doing work right before the fire. This coming directly from CNN reporters. Fox News had by far the best coverage. Kudos to the Vegad FD for doing a nice job putting out the blaze. I've always worried or wondered what would happen in a Vegas Fire since the old MGM now Bally's fire of 1980.

The new sprinkler systems worked quite well and fire crews did a nice job.

mdiederi
Jan 25, 2008, 10:33 PM
From what I've heard on the radio with the interview with the fire chief, it was mostly the facade that was burning. Only a few indoor sprinklers came on because there wasn't much heat or smoke inside. The fire fighters had to hang out the window to spray the water. Seems that EIFS crap isn't very fire resistant. I'm glad more or the new buildings are glass clad.

lfc4life
Jan 25, 2008, 10:43 PM
its seems the fire was confined to the external facade of the building and no rooms were damaged according to the fire chief steve smith.

Hans Gruber
Jan 25, 2008, 11:33 PM
So based on what you guys have heard, the CNN report of welders on the Monte Carlo roof seem valid considering the fire was on the exterior of the building.

Has LVFD ever considering helicoptering in firefighters to the roofs of potential future hotel fires? They could have base jumping parachutes if the heat gets too hot. They could also helicopter in fire hoses and set a new building code to include rooftop fire hydrants or water supplies.

This may sound a little crazy, but there still is no really good way to fight these highrise fires except the current sprinkler systems and the updated fire code. Glad to hear nobody was hurt.

neworleans
Jan 25, 2008, 11:39 PM
im glad there wasn't too much damage. the monte carlo is one of my favorites!!!

gmcclenon
Jan 25, 2008, 11:40 PM
Yeah watching it now. Looks like the facade is burning, almost as if was built out of flammable material.

No kidding. Who would have guessed foam was flammable? I watched it on CNBC and it looked difficult to put out for being such a small fire. Imagine if that foam caught fire at the bottom.

GeorgeLV
Jan 26, 2008, 12:04 AM
Rumor has it welders were on the Monte Carlo roof doing work right before the fire. This coming directly from CNN reporters. Fox News had by far the best coverage. Kudos to the Vegad FD for doing a nice job putting out the blaze. I've always worried or wondered what would happen in a Vegas Fire since the old MGM now Bally's fire of 1980.

The new sprinkler systems worked quite well and fire crews did a nice job.

You're joking, right?

The local news here spent an inordinate amount of time debunking false reports aired on Fox News.

Hans Gruber
Jan 26, 2008, 12:10 AM
You're joking, right?

The local news here spent an inordinate amount of time debunking false reports aired on Fox News.

I was talking about the live coverage FOX News provided of the actual fire. I'm not talking about false speculation, just making the casino fire the most important story. CNN was running election coverage during much of the fire.

It's been confirmed by multiple sources that welders were working on the roof of the Monte Carlo prior to the fire.

GeorgeLV
Jan 26, 2008, 12:19 AM
I was talking about the live coverage FOX News provided of the actual fire. I'm not talking about false speculation, just making the casino fire the most important story. CNN was running election coverage during much of the fire.

It's been confirmed by multiple sources that welders were working on the roof of the Monte Carlo prior to the fire.

In retrospect, CNN made the right call. The actual fire damage appears to be incredibly superficial. According to local reports, the fire was limited to the EIFS facade and no rooms caught on fire.

GeorgeLV
Jan 26, 2008, 3:48 AM
So...how long does everyone expect it will take the Monte Carlo to replace the damaged EIFS panels and look good as new?

Followup, do you think in the aftermath of the fire builders will stop using EIFS and switch to real masonry facades?

mdiederi
Jan 26, 2008, 3:52 AM
If EIFS is that flammable it should be banned on tall buildings. The fire spread really fast sideways.
If it had started at the bottom of the building the entire structure would have been engulfed in a matter of minutes.

Anyway, while running around trying to get shots of the fire, I spotted a new tower crane at Caesars.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/caesars.jpg

toebone7
Jan 26, 2008, 4:15 AM
You bet that stuff is flammable...Just look at what happened in Atlantic City a few months back.

The cladding of a new 40 story casino tower at the Borgata caught fire on the ground floor. The blaze toasted the building ground to roof within minutes. Luckily it was still under construction at the time.

Pics below are from AC11 and can be found by following the below link...the pics are in the middle of the page:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=89260&page=5

http://www.11floor.com/borgatafire3a.jpg

http://www.11floor.com/borgata-fire-390.jpg

again though...it was only superficial damage.

lfc4life
Jan 26, 2008, 5:19 AM
So...how long does everyone expect it will take the Monte Carlo to replace the damaged EIFS panels and look good as new?

Followup, do you think in the aftermath of the fire builders will stop using EIFS and switch to real masonry facades?

i was watching the live interview with the buildings inspector for clark county and from what i could gather; he was saying the entire facade on the monte carlo would have to be replaced because the current facade doesn't comply with up-to-date building standards as its too thick (4 inches too thick i believe he said)

making a list of hotels on the strip with an EIFS facade i came up with
excalibur???
New York??
monte carlo
planet hollywood
paris
bellagio
caesars
venetian

Did i miss any i wonder, maybe treasure island i dunno???

WonderlandPark
Jan 26, 2008, 5:33 AM
Its a fugly hotel, why not implode and start again?

lfc4life
Jan 26, 2008, 5:51 AM
Its a fugly hotel, why not implode and start again?

According to the las vegas sun, MGM will lose $1.2 million for each day the Monte Carlo is closed.

no chance of it being imploded and it being ugly ain't a good enough reason to implode it either :) Its also probably too close to NYNY to be imploded being as big as it is and all

GeorgeLV
Jan 26, 2008, 5:55 AM
i was watching the live interview with the buildings inspector for clark county and from what i could gather; he was saying the entire facade on the monte carlo would have to be replaced because the current facade doesn't comply with up-to-date building standards as its too thick (4 inches too thick i believe he said)

Well, if that's the case, I wonder if they'll reclad it with a glass curtain wall in the City Center vibe.

mdiederi
Jan 26, 2008, 6:01 AM
i was watching the live interview with the buildings inspector for clark county and from what i could gather; he was saying the entire facade on the monte carlo would have to be replaced because the current facade doesn't comply with up-to-date building standards as its too thick (4 inches too thick i believe he said)

making a list of hotels on the strip with an EIFS facade i came up with
excalibur???
New York??
monte carlo
planet hollywood
paris
bellagio
caesars
venetian

Did i miss any i wonder, maybe treasure island i dunno???
Palazzo is made of that shit.

jazfingr
Jan 26, 2008, 9:02 AM
:previous:

TI and Mirage use that crap too.

Hans Gruber
Jan 26, 2008, 11:26 AM
I guess they're going to have to switch to all glass like the Luxor, Mandalay Bay and the new Trump Tower. Vancover BC had a different problem with their condos all made of fake stucco. It costs billions to replace over 100 20+ story condo towers because of water leaks and water damage. The fire problem in the hot Vegas desert is scrary.

I should also point out that due to the 24-7 building approach of Las Vegas, quality control often times suffers. I have a picture of my last stay in the Hotel Mandalay. The wallpaper was not properly installed and baseboard was not properly laid. The toilet was not pressure assisted, instead using gravity flush. Very fine materials were used in the hotel though.

mdiederi
Jan 26, 2008, 4:45 PM
toebone7, what was burning in the Borgada Water Club tower fire? I thought it was all glass facade, but was that one side EIFS or just didn't have the glass up yet?

toebone7
Jan 26, 2008, 6:49 PM
One side of the Water Club has a EIFS "Sail" that extends from the ground floor to the Crown...below is the rendering...

http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/8894/borgataexpansion2sx.png

drobar
Jan 26, 2008, 7:53 PM
Ooops again :koko: ....This should do it.:yes:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2272/2219558846_1fd952abc1_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/2219559362_cce0e3285e_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/2218767047_6265639c0c_b.jpg

drobar
Jan 26, 2008, 8:04 PM
Here's one more.....http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/2220693017_4d7b6cc088_b.jpg

RateVegas.com
Jan 27, 2008, 1:23 AM
From what I have been reading, it seems EIFS is a huge component of very hotel built since The Mirage.

Even hotels like Wynn Las Vegas, with floor to ceiling windows, use it (white stripes on the building), from what I can tell.

Now, as someone that knows virtually nothing about EIFS, are all EIFS materials created equal? I mean, are the bits that were cast for Monte Carlo likely the same as something that would have been installed at The Palazzo? My understanding is that foam thickness standards have been toughened - is that the big difference these days?

evergreen1
Jan 27, 2008, 1:50 AM
From what I have been reading, it seems EIFS is a huge component of very hotel built since The Mirage.

Even hotels like Wynn Las Vegas, with floor to ceiling windows, use it (white stripes on the building), from what I can tell.

Now, as someone that knows virtually nothing about EIFS, are all EIFS materials created equal? I mean, are the bits that were cast for Monte Carlo likely the same as something that would have been installed at The Palazzo? My understanding is that foam thickness standards have been toughened - is that the big difference these days?


Obviously the thicker the polystyrene the more combustible material. Also it is supposed to be treated with fire retardants ..possible this wasn't and possible that it deteriorated over time. There is much controversy about how safe it is as cladding However our eyes do not deceive us. It also seems that eventually the fire put itself out rather than by any water from the LVSFD as they got hoses up there later. Also the fire didn't spread down the building.
The main question is what would have happen if this started on lower floors.

mdiederi
Jan 27, 2008, 2:47 AM
Great shots drobar! Looks like you got there before I did. In the first photo you can see a fire fighter shooting water across the middle while the flames were still raging. Also you can see where falling embers had started new fires on a ledge further down.

#1vegasfan
Jan 27, 2008, 5:16 AM
The Monte Carlo finally has character hehehehehe just kidding

BrandonJXN
Jan 27, 2008, 5:18 AM
So how's the de-theming of the Luxor? What are they going to do to it?

Jade456
Jan 27, 2008, 5:29 AM
Supposedly the name will be changed to...wait for it...."the pyramid". WOW :notacrook: Rumor is, Egypt is getting copyright on "egyptian themes" like pharoahs, pyramids, etc. So to avoid licensing fees, the Luxor is being changed.

jazfingr
Jan 27, 2008, 6:23 AM
:previous:

They are not changing the name. That is an old rumor that was squelched long ago. The news of Egypt laying claim to all things Egyptian came long after MGM decided to de-theme the Luxor. They simply wanted to change it from a family friendly resort to a more adult one. ;)

Another example of news and rumors being misconstrued. :D

RateVegas.com
Jan 27, 2008, 6:44 AM
Yeah, the name is NOT changing.

Basically the big moves are:

last/early this year: new club, restaurant changes

this year: room remodel in the pyramid

late this year: re-do the second level of the atrium

ScottG
Jan 27, 2008, 7:06 AM
the news just went over updates on monte carlo - the whole property is still vacant and closed.....the county building inspector wont allow the casino to open until the burnt facade is either supported to the building or removed.... concerned that some could still fall (?) also when the hotel opens again it will only be open from the 26th floor down........THE INSPECTER IS REQUIRING MONTE CARLO TO REMOVE "ALL" THE EIFS THRU OUT THE PROPERTY (no time rame given) - and not just the damage facade.......

the hotel could stay open during this construction and 'defacading'

this COULD mean the monte carlo tower couold geta renovation - we all scrutenized the hotel for lookin like a 'prison' with its bland window cut out and blank tower.....being that the 'theme' is nothin spectacular and not fitting with city center......MAYBE MGM would want to update the old property (albeit built in '96) give it a glass facade - new theme or new 'moder' eifs facade similar to bellagio - more sleek and design oriented....


this could turn out pretty interesting.

(note there are several different types and ways of construction eifs - monte carlo is over 10 years old so you cant compare the eifs on it with the eifs on wynn or bellagio - i took a class that showed how eifs could be made to look like ANYTHING -any color, texture, cut, material so most every project uses eifs as a subsitute for brick or stone - getting the same exact look but less $$$)



it will be interesting to see is MGM is willin to 'invest' some cash into MC to give it a face lift - and to what extent.

future29
Jan 27, 2008, 6:25 PM
i really hope they make Monte Carlo into an all glass building to mix with City Center. That was my biggest gripe about the whole project, was that Monte Carlo just stuck out like a sore thumb. Im glad the county inspectors are forcing MGM to remove it, because I could not see MGM doing it on their own. I guess something good can come out of this fire afterall:)

Edit: after reading the articles I realized the county inspectors are not making them re-facade the whole building, just the parts that were burned. So doesnt look like we will be getting a re-make Monte Carlo. :(

neworleans
Jan 27, 2008, 9:11 PM
i like the carlo the way it is, and i hope they never change it.

ScottG
Jan 28, 2008, 6:07 AM
^^^^really? the news stated they need to remove all the EIFS that exist on the property and replace it with updated types......:/

mdiederi
Jan 28, 2008, 6:43 AM
Edit: after reading the articles I realized the county inspectors are not making them re-facade the whole building, just the parts that were burned. So doesnt look like we will be getting a re-make Monte Carlo. :(
It's kind of confusing because what the building inspector said in the video interview is different than what's been written in the articles so far. In the video he said they first have to remove or secure the damaged part before they can reopen so that stuff doesn't keep falling off. Then after that they have to start replacing the faulty material on the rest of the building, which will take a period of time to do, but they can be open during that work. One source said securing the top might only take a day or two. So there's a chance they could be open for Super Bowl weekend, but the weather is getting bad now and that might delay their efforts.

JDRCRASH
Jan 28, 2008, 7:14 PM
It should not take that long for the facade to be repaired, as long as the inner rebuilding is finished soon.

That MGM Grand fire years back truly was an embarassment to the city and it's past building codes. I'm very impressed with the stability of the structure of Monte Carlo.

MrVegas
Jan 29, 2008, 7:28 AM
Holy Cow!!! I would love to see The two towers from Wynn, Palazzo and Trump all in one photo.... that would be nice!! Someone?

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4042/bigfouree4.jpg

BrandonJXN
Jan 29, 2008, 7:33 AM
Trump looks like a giant chocolate bar.

JDRCRASH
Jan 29, 2008, 6:49 PM
^
Mmmmmm!!!!!:D

DMaldon762
Jan 29, 2008, 7:26 PM
I know it's not Las vegas but now Foxwoods Casino is on fire. This is starting to get strange.

mdiederi
Jan 29, 2008, 9:19 PM
That is strange. Two casino hotel roof fires in five days.

rhassoii
Jan 30, 2008, 1:05 AM
On the news this afternoon they had a Hotel Spokesperson for the Monte Carlo in a report who told them that the building will probably look very similar to its appearance before the fire when the rebuilding is completed.

lfc4life
Jan 30, 2008, 1:44 AM
anyone know the purpose of the red crane just to the right of the frontier sign in MrVegas photo above???? i first thought Echelon but not so sure

DracoCaifan
Jan 30, 2008, 1:51 AM
Thank you Mr. Vegas........ U just made my day!! Great Shot!!! Vegas looks tall....

mdiederi
Jan 30, 2008, 5:48 AM
anyone know the purpose of the red crane just to the right of the frontier sign in MrVegas photo above???? i first thought Echelon but not so sure
Yeah, it's for one of the boutique hotels at Echelon, either Delano or Mondrian. They'll be on the extreme south edge of the Echelon site.

tumbleweed
Jan 30, 2008, 11:12 PM
Yeah, it's for one of the boutique hotels at Echelon, either Delano or Mondrian. They'll be on the extreme south edge of the Echelon site.

it is actually for the Echelon parking garage.

mdiederi
Jan 31, 2008, 5:18 PM
Really? I don't think I've ever seen them use a tower crane on a parking garage. Interesting.

Had to cross the north side of the valley yesterday so figured I'd snap a shot of Aliante.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Aliante.jpg

Vegas Grows Up
Jan 31, 2008, 5:48 PM
^Ummm Toto, I don't think were at Red Rock anymore.^

ScottG
Jan 31, 2008, 6:07 PM
from vegastipping:

MGMMirage Donates Perishable Food From Monte Carlo To Las Vegas Food Bank



A footnote to a Monte Carlo Fire Update on the Las Vegas Sun website states that MGMMirage donate six thousand pounds of perishable food items from various restaurants and other dining establishments inside of the Monte Carlo to Three Square Food Bank in Las Vegas.

Props to MGMMirage for having the forethought and generosity to give the food to those in need as opposed to taking the easy road to the dumpster. Very very cool.

gmcclenon
Feb 1, 2008, 12:04 AM
Some two week old pictures of the Fontainebleau from an interesting perspective.

From across the street at Sky:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Fontainebleauplusgarage.jpg


The elevator cores from the same perspective:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Coresfromabove.jpg


And finally, the sales center across the street:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Fontsalescenter.jpg

gmcclenon
Feb 1, 2008, 12:11 AM
Not sure if anyone caught this but looks like the Travelodge on the strip is not going to give up their little lot very easily to MGM. The Travelodge sits wedged between MGM's Circus Circus and MGM's new land purchase next to Sky. It seems reasonable that MGM must have offered them something reasonable for that piece. Anyway, looks like they are remodeling the motel and putting in some retail shops.

Here's the pic:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/TravelodgeSurprise.jpg

NYC2ATX
Feb 1, 2008, 8:20 AM
We might be past this topic already.....but I can't help thinking that the fire at the Monte Carlo might just have been the most perfect accident. Finally, the greater gods of gambling have sent a sign to MGM-Mirage, telling them to REMODEL THE MONTE CARLO!!!

:upload_71700:

Sidenote: Isn't it so entertainingly ironic that the original strip, now known as the North Strip, is the current hotbed for development, with some of the tallest buildings in the city going up? ...and on top of that, the resorts down on the South Strip are starting to seem a bit ....dare I say, aged? Only Vegas resorts are in danger of such notions merely 10 to 15 years into their lifetimes.

What an outstanding reincarnation for the North Strip, and it's awesome how the hot resorts of the 90s are keeping with the times quite well....maybe they won't necessarily be imploded in 50 years, but then again, who knows? After all, Vegas is truly the city of trend and fad.

Forgive me for stating the obvious, but Las Vegas is absolutely a fascinating place to me.

jazfingr
Feb 1, 2008, 10:44 AM
That Travelodge is one of the oldest remaining buildings on the strip.

No mater how old the photo, it's there

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2216/2233837203_359abeccb0_o.jpg

bobmcelligott
Feb 1, 2008, 7:08 PM
MGM Signature awarded #1 hotel in the U.S. Go Vegas :cheers:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/pdfs/tca/TravelersChoiceAwards2008.pdf

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8902/themgmsignatureseenlj2.jpg

ScottG
Feb 1, 2008, 8:30 PM
^^^^ that ravel lodge photo in '62 is amazing - rare to see the saharah under construction....wow....

speaking of monte carlo...someone should get a picture of it now....they jumped on fixing the thing...there is already new insulation panels ups. you cant see any of the charred facade...looks like a band-aid on the building.

sad to say that i think the monte carlo is NOT going 'under the knife' (with a complete renovation) just getting stitches. haha

city center main tower is large..you can now see the distinct 2 towers that rise from one large one....is it me or is cosmo taking forever to get up in the air? since they were done with the parking garage underground, youd think the towers would boom up.

also encore is almost done with its swoop - palms place has no more crane and panorama tower 3 is getting up there. its looking nice albeit a wall blocking the other 2 towers from views to the north.


echelon is just as much a mess as city center (a year ago) cranes everyewhere..and it doesnt help that fountain bleau is across the street- its like city center (now)



gateway las vegas (remember that one?) i saw last night on the city counsel channel that they redesigned it - much taller ---it looks kinda like- i want to say conrad...or the plaza....skinny and long....there was a nice rendering shown...it was interesting to watch---they had 100 fewer parking spaces than units and one commissioner would refuse to approve the project because of this, but the rest approved it despite this---they beleive 'mass transportation' will solve this problem......

ScottG
Feb 1, 2008, 8:32 PM
in the fountain bleau photo - you can clearly see the balcony along the tower that is about 5 floors from the bottom - this is so people can over look the pool

GeorgeLV
Feb 2, 2008, 1:31 AM
gateway las vegas (remember that one?) i saw last night on the city counsel channel that they redesigned it - much taller ---it looks kinda like- i want to say conrad...or the plaza....skinny and long....there was a nice rendering shown...it was interesting to watch---they had 100 fewer parking spaces than units and one commissioner would refuse to approve the project because of this, but the rest approved it despite this---they beleive 'mass transportation' will solve this problem......

Uh...the monorail doesn't go anywhere and people that have cars generally avoid the CAT bus. Also, I don't see what should have been done in the first place (a subway under Las Vegas Blvd. w/stations connection to the main entrances of the resorts) ever happening because of the utter failure of the monorail.

eaglesrest
Feb 2, 2008, 9:02 AM
No one is bailing. When the project gets built we owners are going to be very very happy.... Unless you signed up with the management company... It is going to be stunning.
Hi, I'm not sure I understand you on this - are you referring to the rental agreement the Cosmo put together for renting the units? If so what's the negative impact?

Speculating here, but if the developer drops out then either the existing contracts will be null and void or another developer will pick up the agreements?

Patrick
Feb 2, 2008, 5:34 PM
MGM Signature awarded #1 hotel in the U.S. Go Vegas :cheers:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/pdfs/tca/TravelersChoiceAwards2008.pdf

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8902/themgmsignatureseenlj2.jpg

Hate how the third tower is so off-course. Bleh.

cosmo2k8
Feb 2, 2008, 10:46 PM
Whatever happened to thread post limits?

Will there be a Las Vegas Boom! Project Rundown 3.0?

Cheerio!
:notacrook:

Complex01
Feb 2, 2008, 11:27 PM
That Travelodge is one of the oldest remaining buildings on the strip.

No mater how old the photo, it's there

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2216/2233837203_359abeccb0_o.jpg

Amazing how much has changed so quickly. Very Kewl...

:wizard:

Silas
Feb 3, 2008, 1:32 AM
Indeed Congratulations to MGM Signature. #1 Ranking in entire US for TripAdvisor is impressive to say the least. I have stayed there and in my book just the non-smoking aspect plus the sliding glass door/balcony/fresh air into the room was a BLESSING in Vegas. To have the fresh air whipping through the entire room and the hotel non-smoking was awesome. The rest of the hotel was pure class as well.

That photo captures the area where the new 'Ultra Pool' is going to be located at MGM. That is going to take it all up a notch. Pool meets Ultra Lounge.

Thank you Mark 'The Artist' for the Cosmo reference! I forgot I posted that. Not sure if I was right that Cosmo may be delayed. But I think we all know realistically that behind the scenes some of the big guys are sweating bullets. That includes all the big banks, MGM-Mirage (who was forced to go out of country to find someone to fund CityCenter for them), Cosmo of course, Turnberry FountainBlue certainly and of course Plaza et. al must be watching credit markets very closely. $5 billion is a lot of money for anyone these days with the financing as it is.

mdiederi
Feb 3, 2008, 2:35 AM
I think I remember they said the thread post limit got boosted to 10,000 a few months ago when they moved the forum to a better server.

I heard there was a little fire at the Riviera today and they evacuated. But it was small and put out pretty quick and everyone was allowed back in already.

There's glass on Fountaineblaeiou now (first two shot from a penthouse at Turnberry).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass.jpg

Silas
Feb 3, 2008, 3:37 AM
I believe the acceptable alternate spelling is Fountainblaeiouy - or was that Fountainblow like the French say?

jazfingr
Feb 3, 2008, 4:13 AM
yeah!!! Glass on Flouontioaningbloiouy :D