[rhassoii]

Article in the RJ about Streamline.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/15729822.html

[ScottG]

this just in:

2007 racked up the largest number of visitors in the city’s history, just over 39 million people according to the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority.

[mdiederi]

That's an interesting figure when you realize that the Stardust and Frontier rooms were eliminated last year.

[mttbox]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/UP_WYNN_TRUMP_850_539.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/ar120337717931101.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/UP_MEL_TORME_900_675.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/ar12033766683552.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/UP_NORDSTROMS_WYNN_9_675-1.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/ar120337708773475.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/ar120337677521407.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/UP_NORDSTROMS_WYNN_9_675-1.jpg

[designer3d712]

What's across the street from Trump other than a mall? I'm assuming that's a mall when I see Nordstrom in the photo above. I'm just curious, because there is so much glare coming off the glass. It would be a little annoying if I had a business there.

[lfc4life]

What's across the street from Trump other than a mall? I'm assuming that's a mall when I see Nordstrom in the photo above. I'm just curious, because there is so much glare coming off the glass. It would be a little annoying if I had a business there.

its the fashion show mall with its giant ufo at the entrance http://www.arizonasteve.com/photos/vegas0307/vegas16.jpg

the mall takes up the whole area

[mttbox]

What's across the street from Trump other than a mall? I'm assuming that's a mall when I see Nordstrom in the photo above. I'm just curious, because there is so much glare coming off the glass. It would be a little annoying if I had a business there.

yes, the gold glare was from the reflection of trump tower

[Complex01]

Wow thats a lot of gold glare, were are my sun glasses ===>:cool:


Anyhow love the pano at the top, it is really nice, and gives a great since of what has been developed recently. Very Kewl...

:yes:

Post - 1700...

[neworleans]

in your pic i don't see any cranes at the encore. are they down now?

[lfc4life]

there are still 3 cranes up at encore as this shot shows

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/UP_WYNN_TRUMP_850_539.jpg

[lfc4life]

looks like Crown las vegas ain't gonna happen :(

However, the Melbourne, Australia-based company also suggested that a proposed $5 billion hotel-casino project slated for the former Wet 'n Wild site may be in jeopardy because of the tightening credit markets. The company and its partners are reviewing their options for the project.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/15833892.html

[neworleans]

there are still 3 cranes up at encore as this shot shows

that's funny, cause in the other pics you can't see the cranes at encore

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/mttbox/trump/UP_NORDSTROMS_WYNN_9_675-1.jpg

[WonderlandPark]

^^^ Its called photoshop.

[rhassoii]

Stratosphere sale completed.

A company controlled by billionaire investor Carl Icahn said Thursday it completed the sale of four southern Nevada casinos to an affiliate of the Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) for $1.2 billion.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200802211740DOWJONESDJONLINE001127_FORTUNE5.htm


Article about CityCenter and MGM.

The company said its overall quarterly revenues increased 5.6 percent to $1.9 billion, from $1.8 billion a year ago. MGM Mirage said its revenues for all of 2007 were almost $7.7 billion, compared with $7.2 billion in 2006.

D'Arrigo said MGM Mirage is moving ahead with development plans for a $4 billion to $5 billion resort project on the northern end of the Strip, a joint venture between MGM Mirage, Kerzner Holdings International and Dubai World. "We still have 160 acres of developable land in Las Vegas, so we have plenty of opportunity to expand," D'Arrigo said.

Through the fourth quarter, CityCenter had sold 1,336 units of the 2,647 available residences, totaling more than $1.67 billion in sales.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/15870352.html

[ScottG]

the bellagio sign along the freeway directly behind citycenter is being dismantled....no sign of the one behind the bellagio parking garage going anywhere...

(i tried to snap a picture with my phone - but las vegas freeway prevented me - im not suicidal)

[rhassoii]

the bellagio sign along the freeway directly behind citycenter is being dismantled....no sign of the one behind the bellagio parking garage going anywhere...

(i tried to snap a picture with my phone - but las vegas freeway prevented me - im not suicidal)

Yeah I saw that yesterday too, about time they bring it down with CityCenter rising behind it.

[Sperman 508]

do you guys think the Kerzner project will be an Atlantis resort, like in the Bahamas and Dubai?

[Silas]

I don't remember the details but I remember reading how MGM-Mirage locked in a lot of their costs for construction and labor, so that made PCC possible.

Echelon has most likely done the same. But for the new projects not yet underway, how much have costs gone up? Including financing costs?

Would a PCC planned today still costs near the $8.4 billion? Or would it be much higher? And if so, would it still make sense to build?

[Muskavon]

I don't remember the details but I remember reading how MGM-Mirage locked in a lot of their costs for construction and labor, so that made PCC possible.

I remember watching a "Build it Bigger' type show on the Science Channel where (I think) they were constructing the Palazzo building. It was mentioned they locked in their steel price on the (not-so-much) gamble that prices would rise (like no kidding).

[mdiederi]

COSMO SAVED!

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/gaming/2008/feb/22/cosmo-dodges-foreclosure-hyatt-manage-hotel/

Eichner is out.
Global hedge fund, Marathon Asset Management, takes over.
Hyatt will manage the hotel and convention facilities.

[Patrick]

^Yayz.

I cant wait to see the final result.

[Taurus702B]

Stratosphere sale completed.



http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200802211740DOWJONESDJONLINE001127_FORTUNE5.htm


Article about CityCenter and MGM.







http://www.lvrj.com/business/15870352.html

The new owners of the Stratosphere may remove the rides atop of the tower. There are also rumors that they are going to turn the tower into some sort of club. I hope the part for the rides are just a rumor.

[cosmo2k8]

Woooooohooooo!

Many thanks to Marathon Asset & Hyatt Corp!

And thank you Mr. Eichner for your vision in Las Vegas.

:tup:

Cheers! :cheers:

[fishordie]

With all the mega resorts/hotels being built I am hoping the Cosmo becomes a model for future endeavors. Personally, I do not like giant resorts in Vegas or anywhere else. Atlantis, in the Bahama's for me was not fun as to get anywhere took preplanning to allow for time to go from point A to point B. The same applies to staying at "The Hotel" in Vegas as getting anywhere within the Mandalay complex requires a long foot march. Ditto in regards to Belagio and Venetian. My concern with the MGM City Center is to get from the street to the main lobby will take a 5 to 10 minute walk. To go from one end to the other could take easily 1/2 an hour. Planning for dinner, on property would be better if a golf cart were involved.

In the Cosmo model to get from the street to the main entrance takes about 20 seconds. To travel the entire length of the property perhaps 10 minutes at most. To go from your room to any in house eatery perhaps 5 minutes and to go from the main tower to the casino is just the push of a button from your floor. I find this model of "Ease of Access" while being possibly termed a mega resort with all the amenities associated with their larger cousins totally desirable and preferable. Hey if you like room service by Wolgang Puck this is going to be the shiznatz.

From my investigations it looks like the walk from Cosmo to the central hub of City Center may be closer than the walk from Vdara to the hub. Getting to P.H. across the strip is
just one walkway away. Walking from Vdara to the strip is just going to be painful. This central locational theme combined with true ease and speed of access of amenities of not just the resort but access to the strip as well is a huge plus for this investor/visitor. As a note, I am in L.V. all the time as my live in Girlfriend's family lives there and we generally stay with them at least once a month and only visit the strip to check out all the construction. Besides, the Offstrip Jazz clubs, shopping and eateries are off the hook.

One question I have about Vdara. It appears the pool area is located to the west of the building. Does that mean this area will not get sun until noon?? Just curious if anyone knows. Another question I have is to where the monorail, running to and from all the MGM properties, will be boarded from at City Center and will the access from Cosmo be close.

Please don't get me wrong, I am in Awe every month I see Perini's progress at MGM City Center. The layout and visuals are breathtaking and the renderings of the final resort is amazing yet my question is only will it be user friendly and if not whose model should be used in future endeavors, not just in Vegas but world wide, to give owners, visitors and tenants the most value, pleasure and relaxation. Perhaps I am wrong and the WOW factor is more important than the ease of use for the patrons.

[philip]

Pool area is to the south of the Vdara building. Given the opening to the east and south, you should get sun after 9AM.

Monorail station is approx. between Veer, Main casino hotel, and the mall. Access is not close to the Cosmo.

[philip]

.............and if not whose model should be used in future endeavors, not just in Vegas but world wide, to give owners, visitors and tenants the most value, pleasure and relaxation. Perhaps I am wrong and the WOW factor is more important than the ease of use for the patrons.

Not everyone likes to live right above the casino floor or the mall. Hence, the residential buildings at CityCenter are seperated but adjacent to the commercial areas.

[fishordie]

Hi Phillip,

Thank you for the replies however in that area does not the strip run North and South. The models I have seen as well as the overview on the C.C. website show at least one pool by the casino directly west and the Vdara pool at best West South West. AM I interpreting these models and overviews incorrectly??

Additionally, would I be incorrect in assuming the pools shown on the C.C. web site also showing the pool for the
Cosmo (On the south side of Cosmo) running east and west with the Cosmo facility directly to the North of the Pools??

I seem to be missing something here somewhere.

Thank you for your help in understanding.

[mdiederi]

Yeah, directly west of Vdara is an existing parking garage.

[fishordie]

Okay,

I finally got a view of the Vdara pool and you are correct. It looks like a beautiful pool located to the south of the complex.
thank you.

As far as living above a casino I will be curious to see how many owner occupied, resident status folks will be at Mandarin or Harmon and how many will be on long term leases. I think the minimum lease allowed is 9 months and for them I can understand not wanting to enter and exit through a casino. I have the same question for Veer as I assume that is where many of the middle and higher rollers who are renting a few days or a week at a time will be staying. In Vegas I would assume the majority of non residents would prefer ease of access to the strip, casino and pools. Again, I am asking as I am curious what would be the best model for future projects in Vegas which I assume will mostly be non full time residential and catering to the gambler or tourist/visitor whom I would think would like easy and quick access to the action both in house and the strip. This is the one and only Vegas after all and the 39 million visitors of last year were there for only a few specific purposes. Once those priorities are established would it not make sense to build facilities that will cater to those more specific needs??
My understanding was City Center was designed as a single community within a much larger community wherein the resident or visitor did not have to leave the premises for any reason as it would be fully self contained. Again I ask is this an appropriate model for future projects especially knowing the North strip has been Identified as possibly the next high end location for building mega resorts.

To put it simply, Should more resorts be built around an ease of use and Access model on a smaller footprint building up instead of out Vs. a giant acreage Park or self contained city like environment where walking is just a fact of life?? After all, for most of these visitors isnt it really all about instant and short term gratification??

[neworleans]

if people have a hard time walking from one side of a casino to the other, than maybe it's a good thing that they have to walk.
For someone like me, who's not even that active, it sure doesn't seem to be very hard.
complaining about running, i can see, but complaining about walking, man a person must have to be really lazy!!! (unless he's injured or disabled)
as far as the time issue, "Our reservations are in 10mins, lets get going." well, that solves the time issue.

Plus, i think las vegas is meant for walking. like walking up and down the strip.

[neworleans]

also, if you have a hard time walking around in a large casino because you're overweight, than you should be thankful that you have to walk. Those overweight people that at least try and workout, they probably don't mind the walk. it's those overweight people that refuse to get off their butts that are the ones who complain about walking.

Do you think that these casino owners are going to just design their resorts for people who complain about walking... shoot no!!!

I love these massive projects and to me, the bigger the better!

[philip]

fishordie,

I can understand what you are asking. However, there is no such thing as "The Best Model in Las Vegas." Las Vegas thrives because of its diverse offering of entertainment and hospitality options. Business models not only change from one decade to the next (casinos-only in the 1950's, hotel casino in the 1970's, Resort in the 1990's, to Condo-hotel-casino in the 2000's) due to changes in consumer preference, Business models are also different at each casino in the same decade (Palms attracts the "cool" people, Venetian attracts conventioneers, etc.) The diverse offering of options are the reason why Las Vegas attracts almost everyone in the world, and as long as there are people who like certain style of casinos/hotel/theme park/golf/convention.........., we will continue to see new business models emerge while older ones go away.

So there is really no such thing as "The Best Model" in Las Vegas. If you like to live close to the casino and the strip, then stay at Cosmopolitan. If you want exclusivity and peace of mind while still get access to the casino, then stay at Vdara or Trump. No one model is necessarily better than the others, it's just a matter of consumer preference.

[fishordie]

Yo Phillip,

Maybe I am just hard headed, In fact that is probably the case, but I am not seeing a real variety based model any more. Theme places seem to be on the way out and modern high rises seem to be on the drawing boards. I'm thinking more Manhattan skyline than Disneyland. The question for me is does the non transient theme and requirements of New York apply to Vegas which is highly transient or are we preparing the strip for more of a residential feel. We know the family is no longer being catered to in Vegas rather the Baby boomer's and probably even more important is the kids of baby boomer's both domestic and foreign. These kids don't walk anywhere. They get their exercise in high end gyms which are now in the resorts. When I say kids I am referring to the 25 to 45 age bracket whose folks gave them maybe a bit too much money to play with or they hit it big on some investment or business play. Look who frequents the hot clubs, hot bars, hot hotels. Look who bought into Palms, Hard Rock (Condo Hotel sale prior to Morton selling the project) Look at the age group who bought into Cosmo, Trump and City Center.
Look who is hanging around the pools or eateries and you are seeing less and less old and more and more of the age group I noted above. More jeans and tee shirts at dinner than suits and ties. Those kids don't walk, they leave that for the tourists who may not stay at the swankier joints.

The price tags are now in the multi billion dollar price range even for building on 9 acres. The need for return on investment demands a high attention to demographics and their needs. Is variety going to remain the watchword in Vegas or is this anomaly we call Las Vegas growing up to be a Manhattan Skyline where every square foot of Strip dirt is worth a fortune and therefore the structures will be dedicated to a particular demographic and the tourists will stay in the older or less grandiose places. There may even be a market for all the foreclosures of units which will be piling up just off strip but that is another matter all together. The Strip is its own world. Investors will be getting savvier and visitors will have more to choose from thus giving them more expectations in regards to services and conveniences from the hotels and casino/hotels.

[mdiederi]

Harmon Avenue
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/HarmonWay.jpg

[sky-of-webs]

Could someone get a picture of the mall at City Center from Harmon ave and the Planet Hollywood-Paris parking garage entrances intersection. The iron work looks like a building collapse. Pretty cool, and it will be hidden when the cladding goes on.

[mdiederi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/CrystalMess.jpg

[case_architect]

here's a few shots i grabbed this weekend

vdara
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/188/vdarajt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

citycenter
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3429/citycenterlw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

closeup of citycenter facade
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/681/cccloseupwg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

red rock jr. moving along
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/292/aliantevq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

southpoint topped off
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2591/southpointrx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

panorama 3 rising above its brothers
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2269/panoramanm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[MrVegas]

The twin-tower Pinnacle Las Vegas project has been canceled. :(

http://lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2008/03/03/news/iq_19987602.txt

[philip]

Vdara is SO HOT !!!

[designer3d712]

:previous: Agreed!! I love Vegas Architecture.

[ScottG]

there is a large porte cochere steel frame BEHIND encore....its on the side of desert desert inn road.

also -is anyone curious to find out how fountainbleau will do its first couple of years? i mean it will be a greeat competitive property BUT it is far from 'action' right now the busy part of the strip ends at wynn / fashion show mall.... then there is a long gap of echelon construction and cheap souvenier shops, then riviera (the rive HA!) and circus circus then this new mandalay bay-esque resort.....then the vacant wet n wild and saharah and stratosphere - not exactly busy foot traffic.

i read in an article about the saharah renovation (which was recently county approved) that they will be going after the palms / hard rock kind of crowd.....


it definitly seems as if the north strip is turning into the 'new' strip BUT it will take time.....(maybe eventually heading into down down.....eventually)



I HATE THAT PINNACLE IS GONE - IT WAS A LONG SHOT BUT I LOVED THE RED GLASS AND TWIN TOWERS! :( <----SAD FACE

[lfc4life]

yeah i think fontainebleau will struggle big time for at least the first year (until echelon opens)

that part of the strip is completely devoid of foot-traffic and i spend alot of time on foot up there when in vegas (but then again so is the far south i suppose :) )

personally i think the success of fontainebleau will ultimately be determined by both crown and the Kerzner/mgm project on the old el rancho lot. If both are built the north strip will be THE place, if neither are built fontainebleau will sit like a white elephant amid graffiti, broken bottles, porn flyers and other assorted trash :(

[neworleans]

Circus Circus was really packed with people last time i was there, and that's right across from Fontainebleau. Plus, the stratosphere is not close to anything and it does just fine. Yes, the stratosphere has it's tower, but Fontainebleau will have it's height from the hotel.

[Complex01]

It is all coming together so well. I likes it a lot...

:wizard:

[justdefended]

Vdara is SO HOT !!!

I agree. If a building could bring sexy back, it just did.

[lfc4life]

Circus Circus was really packed with people last time i was there, and that's right across from Fontainebleau. Plus, the stratosphere is not close to anything and it does just fine. Yes, the stratosphere has it's tower, but Fontainebleau will have it's height from the hotel.

CC and fontainebleau will expect to attract a different type of clientele, i can't imagine CC regulars paying Wynn type prices for food, drink and accommodation or participating in high limit games; not with Riveria and Sahara also across the road.

Not sure what would attract high-rollers to Fontainebleau when you have Bellagio, Wynn and Venetian in much better locations

i smell another Aladdin actually, i seriously hope i am wrong on this because fontainebleau is my favourite project going up in vegas atm but its a five star resort in a 2 star part of town; an area that many who come to vegas probably have never ventured near.

[lvnewb]

Just wondering if you guys had heard anything about Sullivan Square? They had their big groundbreaking last year, and dug a nice hole, but since then the only activity I've seen there has been the dirt pile slowly disappearing. I figured they would've had the foundation and the cranes up by now.

[Patrick]

^I've been wondering about Sullivan Square too!

VDARA is a hella hot tower.

[future29]

what about east village? any news on that?

[Patrick]

Shots from the Vegas Skyline thread.

Harmon Corridor

CityCenter making a huge impact.

http://i27.tinypic.com/igbzww.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22441884@N04/2198794135/

Cosmopolitan on the rise, check it out! Whats taking Project CityCenter's "The Harmon" so long?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2294525727_cc5839b357_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21304031@N07/

VEER Towers also taking very long!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2182/2267625527_89e80018bf_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacamera/

Looks good!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2272/2205028280_94923509ec_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chinko/

The Harmon seems like a simple tower, dont see why its taking so long.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2298358027_b105fe1e8a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36063535@N00/

Whats that huge concrete block? Ohh I remember when this was just a landing pad, parking lots, and some old shops!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2020/2220195995_971e10d9d9_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dennis_knake/

This is why I dont like the VEER Towers, while new and exciting, the location sucks, the view of the main Hotel Casino Towers looks great, but the VEER Towers will just be stuck in the middle.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/2300396204_446e581c10_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23437487@N00/

Encore at the Wynn Las Vegas

Wynn, amazingly with two towers, I still cant belive it.

http://i29.tinypic.com/1zp5ibn.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ddpn/2170355014/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/2291678240_47897a51bc_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhedberg/

Palms Place

What a sexy skyline! The West Strip certianly has a nice cluster. :yes: Palm Place is HUGE.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2278/2235145800_8be8059754_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cornstalker/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2002/2292358399_eb8c078da2_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23437487@N00/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/2234198697_f5389c472b_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lpilewski/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2333/2236980466_99593b9d4b_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lpilewski/

Trump Las Vegas

Defanatly marks its presence on the Strip, and dwarfs all the older 90's hotels!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2238/2259105948_e700f7e976_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronharrison/

Palazzo

Turned out really nice, not a huge fan of the tower but still looks great.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/2302833859_87ae1be9da_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard_q/

North Strip

Huge towers!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/2293651873_562be62695_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/larryfinn/

World Market Center, huge! Size of the Plaza Hotel.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2292972538_f5a5089061_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/agmason/

Harmon Corridor

Planet Hollywood is HUGE, I dont know, a little too huge for my taste. I guess we'll wait and see.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/2287939019_e8e5ec99b5_b.jpg

[Silas]

Hmmmmm....

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder for sure. I love the overall CityCenter look but IMO Vdara is hardly the shining star. It's OK but pretty bland. Then again, I never really got the whole Britney Spears thing. So maybe I'm just not getting it.

I look forward to Mandarin Oriental, Harmon and especially Veer and I think these will step it up more along the lines of Angelina Jolie, shall we say?

[Silas]

Hey GREAT NEW PHOTOS OF VEGAS.

Thanks so much guys for all these awesome, high quality, artistic photos. I really love seeing them and getting my Vegas fix from back home, stuck in the daily grind.

VEGAS LOOKING GOOD!

[cosmo2k8]

Beautiful shots Patrick!

That shot at dusk from the Palazzo is simply amazing!

Thanks!

:cheers:

[Silas]

It says "NO PARKING on ramp or you will be WED". I knew Vegas weddings were quick and unusual but that one at CityCenter takes the cake. :cheers: :D

[ScottG]

the shot of the cosmo is great. what a mesh of construction....


cosmo actually wraps around jocky club on ALL 4 SIDES. you can see the west end reaching around the front of jockey club, also cosmo deos block about the fisrt 2 columns of windows on the bellagio second tower....

[mdiederi]

cosmo actually wraps around jocky club on ALL 4 SIDES.
Not the north side.

[mdiederi]

is anyone curious to find out how fountainbleau will do its first couple of years?
I think it will be successful. By then the recession should be over. Glenn Schaefer knows how to do build it right and they'll have a ton of foot traffic from the convention center, and they will be their own destination because of the large number of rooms and large in-house convention facilities, and some "must see" attractions they are promising, and also because of the large number of high rise condos next door which represents a new type of local market.

[Patrick]

It says "NO PARKING on ramp or you will be WED". I knew Vegas weddings were quick and unusual but that one at CityCenter takes the cake. :cheers: :D

Thats halarious! But if you look closer, a truck is blocking the first half, I'm sure it says TOWED.

[Patrick]

Some sexy shots of CityCenter from its official website.

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07053.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07037.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/9390.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07001.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07014.jpg

[ScottG]

Not the north side.

yes huh! :)

if you look at that picture (or go there) youll see that the west tower has its first column of windows blocked by whatever that slim portion of the podium is for cosmo.

[WanderingQueen]

yes huh! :)

if you look at that picture (or go there) youll see that the west tower has its first column of windows blocked by whatever that slim portion of the podium is for cosmo.

That's shocking to see. I'm amazed that Cosmo has been permitted to so totally engulf Jockey Club.

[ScottG]

^^^^ the top level of jocky club extends beyond the lowers - along this level is the closest cosmo comes to jocky club....less than 5 feet!

[Patrick]

Never before seen? Project CityCenter Renders:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/cc1-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/cc2-1.jpg

[mdiederi]

Saw those last year.

Here's a New York Times article today about the fine art that will be displayed at CityCenter
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/arts/design/08publ.html?_r=1&ref=arts&oref=slogin
or here http://www.stevefriess.com/archive/nytimes/citycenterart.htm

[DFW LUV]

Never before seen? Project CityCenter Renders:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/cc1-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/citycenter/cc2-1.jpg


WOW!

Looks like in Las Vegas the architecture will soon become an attraction.

[laro3]

needs more tree's

[BrianFey]

What is the story on Trump #2, is that project still a go, or is it on hold due to the slowing market?

[mttbox]

What is the story on Trump #2, is that project still a go, or is it on hold due to the slowing market?

it is not on hold, it is still in "process", I'm pretty sure it will take a little while due to the change of the market, the sale office still there to take deposit, but there are still small amount of unit that is avliable in tower 1 and there will be some more unit will fall out of escrow in next few month, the owners are just start to closing their unit this month, i personally think it looks better with just 1 tower.

[Wrightguy0]

Vegas's skyline looks like it means serious buisness, I'm lovin' the citycenter renders

[ScottG]

ever been to the hooters hotel?

apparently no one has either!

the new owners are going to RENOVATE and DETHEME the palce as a 'hip' modern boutique hotel... (as early as this summer)

seems like hooters became a c*ck fest.... guys would go there, but the only girls would be the ones working there.

[MrVegas]

Caesars Palace Expansion
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2012/caesars030908ek2.jpg


Glass is now being installed on the west side of the Cosmopolitan
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5779/cosmo030808cy5.jpg


Encore is getting its signature lettering installed
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/6928/encore030908ez4.jpg


Planet Hollywood Towers
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9391/planet030908ae9.jpg

[jazfingr]

:previous:

Sweet photos, thanks for the updates

[StatenIslander237]

Glass is now being installed on the west side of the Cosmopolitan
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5779/cosmo030808cy5.jpg


Encore is getting its signature lettering installed
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/6928/encore030908ez4.jpg


WOW! TWO HUGE MILESTONES!

Jeez, I remember when they installed the lettering on Wynn. Seems like so long ago now...

[asylum23]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but Panorama Tower 4 is cancelled.

[ColoPrecaster]

Here is a few shots m wife took for me while she was out in LV this weekend.


http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2619/picture004fj2.jpg

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8240/picture009rk9.jpg

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4456/picture010zq8.jpg

[Silas]

Are we sure that is not the Nike 'Swoosh' on the tower? Maybe that is the final sign ?:cheers:

[Silas]

I think PH Tower(s) is going to look good. The dark blue glass will probably be a nice contrast to all the light/white/beige buildings of PH, Paris, Signature and especially Marriott Chateau. Hopefully they'll break up the pattern in some way. Let's see.

Any knowledge whether they will build one tower or two?

[gelu1123]

We know some of the giant Ferris wheel that was to be built in Las Vegas?

[Tlwarnke]

Silas,
Here is a link to the Westgate Resorts site that has photos the PH Towers rendering. The final will not be so art-deco though. As you can see there will be two towers with a center part joining them.
http://westgateresorts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=photos.show_photo&resortID=WESTGATE_PLANET_HOLLYWOOD&fileHandle=wgph_01

[Silas]

Thanks T -

I have seen that proposed design. With the real estate/ time share market in transition, I wonder if they will follow through with the second tower. Time will tell .....

[lfc4life]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but Panorama Tower 4 is cancelled.

source??

[Patrick]

This picture is positively amazing! All the different styles of Architecture. The Cosmopolitan + Jockey Club + Bellagio clash looks so intresting, it looks as if its construction going on at a hilly european town. I cant wait to see Cosmo finally done! I've been waiting for this project!


http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8240/picture009rk9.jpg

Really? Lack of sales maybe?

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but Panorama Tower 4 is cancelled.

[Lecom]

That dense area with all the massive and, more importantly, classy and assuming buildings will truly live up to its title of the City Center. While I'm not too excited about individual building designs there (yet I'm happy that they're not cheesy prefab crap), they will surely make one hell of a presense.

[neworleans]

i'm not sure what we're going to celebrate first...the completion of the Harmon or the year 3000!!! j/k

[Patrick]

^Yes, its taking awfully long for such a simple building.

[fishordie]

Some sexy shots of CityCenter from its official website.

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07053.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07037.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/9390.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07001.jpg

http://www.citycenter.com/luxury_las_vegas_condos/images/construction/07014.jpg

Now I am curious,

Will the North bound views from Mandarin, Veer and Harmon be negatively impacted not only be each other but by the Cosmo as well?? Will Veer be almost land locked located between all the other structures as well as the two walls that face each other?? I am trying to figure out how this will play out as far as the architecture blending in with the practical usage of the facilities especially in regards to the views. I will be back in Vegas Thursday to see if I can see for myself and talk with the folks at City Center and Cosmo.

[kenratboy]

Seeing these new megaprojects (CityCenter) next to what used to be 'mega' (Bellago, Circus, etc.) - I can't help but wondering what things will be like in 10, 20 years.

At a certain point, they will be limited by humans, in terms of the physical size of a facility, how far one can be expected to move to get from the parking garage to their room, shopping, food, etc.

As it is, it can be quite an ordeal for some visitors to get around with the size and complexity of these facilities - imagine CityCenter, but 2, 3, 4X as large.

[Complex01]

Those are some impressive pics. I like they very much so. Very kewl...

:yes:

[neworleans]

if u look closely at the harmon, there are no columns rising off the top floor. does anybody know if they've decided to stop work on it?

here is a pic from vegastodayandtomorrow.com
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2017/2333444831_76412576db_o.jpg

[Vtown420]

I think if you look closer, you’ll see the rebar for the columns is there. Besides, why would they stop construction on it? I’m sure there is a reason it and Veer are taking so long.

I must say, City Center is looking better than I ever expected. It’s going to be awesome! I can’t wait to get home and take some pics!

[jazfingr]

They are building the pool and lounge deck at The Harmon. This requires a bit of time, engineering and heavy equipement.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2332982715_c63b53a352_o.jpg

[jazfingr]

Hey, neworleans, I've sent you a Private Message about hot-linking photos. Please fix it.

[ScottG]

^^^ ah yes - the VTAT hotlink. i wonder how many people you had to 'correct' ...your website is popular with the images!

[justdefended]

Deutsche Bank AG said it will begin foreclosure proceedings on the Cosmopolitan after Eichner was unable to strike a deal with Marathon and Hyatt. At this point the project is still up in the air although Eichner says construction is still proceeding on the $3.9B project.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120554452781938671.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[Silas]

Interesting about Cosmo.

Fish or Die, you asked a question about the views. The question seemed silly to me because we have photos which show us exactly what the views will look like, so we don't need to speculate on views.

However, if Cosmo were not built, then the views would improve signifcantly for Vdara, Harmon, Veer, the main CC building and also Bellagio second tower.

In looking over that photo, it's clear that the entire MGM CityCenter project would be better off if Cosmo were not around. Views would be better, less competeition, more parking better 'flow'.

I believe that MGM must be considering buying out the Cosmo project and simply topping it off where it is. The extensive on-strip parking would be itself a destination for people - and they would no doubt walk to CityCenter mall or Bellagio. The existing structure is for the planned cosmo mall, I believe. The back tower, up to 10 stories or so, could be luxury suites, or offices maybe.

I encourage MGM to buy the place and top it off where it is. Let's see what happens.

[fishordie]

Yo Silas,

I spent yesterday chatting with folks associated with both the MGM and Cosmo. It appears Cosmo is already around 20 floors up out of a total of 52 or 53 (There are no floors in the 40's). They are going full blast and it appears they are going even faster after the notice of default occurred. MGM too is going full blast with some of the facilities going up at a rate of one floor per every 3 - 5 days. No one seemed to believe MGM was going to purchase Cosmo.

City center is mind boggling at the size and numbers of structures. It truly will be a city within a city and is more reminiscent of New York Living than West Coast living.

The reason I brought up the view thing is that IS important to this west coaster and I appear to not be the only one as the pricing structures go up depending on the quality of the views. If this building trend continues you will be grateful to have a razor thin view of almost anything and to me that would be a shame. I know the market will dictate the reality of this occurance but I am concerned.

One of my favorite reasons I stay or have purchased along the strip is the fantasy associated with the long and wonderful views of the strip, North or South, Mountains or the city in general. It is wonderful and romantic, sexy and enticing and to me makes Vegas such an amazing place.

My concern is more about Vegas High rises eliminating these glorious panoramas as we build higher and closer together more in keeping with New York or the main cities in Asia or Europe. I cant even imagine what it must be like for the folks staying at the Jockey club on the South Side. UGHHHH. I can only hope that is not a harbinger of the future fate of Vegas.

My question and focus still remain as the question regarding the impact of high rises on one of the great assets of Las Vegas which are they never ending views of
lights at night. Will these go the way of the dinosaur and do we as observers of this phenomenon have a responsibility to make this concern known.

At 20 or 30 million an acre my concerns may have zero impact but I feel they are still legitimate concerns regarding the impacts of building or overbuilding these incredible High Rises. I happen to love Vegas but I am concerned and I may be naive but I believe the developers need to keep the impact of their designs with some of this in mind.

[Silas]

Thanks FOD for that info.

I agree, the views are important from a purchase or even hotel perspective. No doubt CC will be looking at itself or Cosmo a lot.

Ironically, the great views of CC will be from Polo Towers or Tower 1 of Signature across the strip. Those will probably have the best views of the New Vegas. CC itself will often have very limited views. Vdara's best views will be of Bellagio pools in the back, I would think - but a lot of freeway also.

It will be very interesting to see where Cosmo goes from here. It is truly unchartered territory in the creidit markets (Bear Stearns anyone?). Maybe I'm way off base but I really like the idea of leaving the front tower at five stories (or whatever) with the open air pool/club deck. that would be slick.

[gmcclenon]

Let's hope Las Vegas does not end up with it's own version of Thailand's SV Garden. Financial crisis gripped the country in the middle of a massive skyscraper construction boom in the 90's and left, to this day, scores of high-rises unfinished around Bangkok.

Ok, not likely to happen in Las Vegas but quite interesting after what happened on Friday with Bear Sterns....

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2990280

[Hans Gruber]

I consider City Center to be just one project and not 3 or 4 in one. I know there's several different companies mostly bankrolled by MGM. Needless to say, everything in City Center will either be a smashing succcess or a massive timeshare property if the economy continues to tank. City Center will be home to quite a few high priced hooker pads. I'm going to guess 5% of all condo sales in the entire City Center complex will be home to high class bordellos.

I have a great deal of faith in the new upcoming Hotel Casinos under construction and those in the permit stages. I look forward to a Vegas strip that goes all the way to the Stratosphere in 10-15 years from now.

[asylum23]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but Panorama Tower 4 is cancelled.


The source is their offices. We called specifically about that tower and they said it was cancelled, but they still own the land and may do something else there.