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jazfingr
Jan 22, 2009, 11:38 AM
:previous:

Once in a while I do a little photoshop magic when there is a sign in the photo. It's cool when someone notices. This one was subtle, I'm surprised you found it. There are about a dozen more scattered around the site. :D

mac78130
Jan 22, 2009, 1:27 PM
Flickr photo by Shiny Side Down (http://flickr.com/photos/shinysidedown/3217618214/in/photostream/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/3217618214_d13ba4e031.jpg?v=0
Flickr photo by Shiny Side Down (http://flickr.com/photos/shinysidedown/3217617794/in/photostream/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/3217617794_451ccba41d_b.jpg

neworleans
Jan 22, 2009, 4:48 PM
:previous:

Once in a while I do a little photoshop magic when there is a sign in the photo. It's cool when someone notices. This one was subtle, I'm surprised you found it. There are about a dozen more scattered around the site. :D

of course... DUH!

mac78130
Jan 22, 2009, 6:07 PM
A short article from the Las Vegas Sun about CityCenter job applications.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/gaming/2009/jan/21/citycenter-jobs-bright-spot-down-economy/

mac78130
Jan 22, 2009, 10:37 PM
Photo of Cosmo shows the large scale of the glass being put up.
flickr photo by Imperfect Ending (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shockinglyfantastic/3218163489/) Taken Jan. 21
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/3218163489_cb7d132f2e_b.jpg

neworleans
Jan 22, 2009, 11:02 PM
A short article from the Las Vegas Sun about CityCenter job applications.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/gaming/2009/jan/21/citycenter-jobs-bright-spot-down-economy/

in a bunch of those slide show pics, as well as the main article pic, they claim the cosmo as being part of city center. some reporter doesn't know what they're talking about. oh wait, that's every reporter.:no:

DMaldon762
Jan 23, 2009, 1:33 AM
http://www.vegasrex.com/

He has pics of PH Towers new sign...much better. And the glass is topped out now.

patrick84
Jan 23, 2009, 1:56 AM
^^^ So what was the point of the original sign they put up with Westgate? Just wanted to see how it looked on the actual building? ;)

mdiederi
Jan 23, 2009, 3:06 AM
The Westgate sign is on the other side of the building.

Krases
Jan 23, 2009, 5:09 AM
The Westgate sign is on the other side of the building.

Doah!

I had a feeling that it was too good to be true.

mac78130
Jan 23, 2009, 1:33 PM
The font and size of the lettering on the PH towers are just too distracting. It's a really nice looking building why do they have to screw it up with all the signage:(

DMaldon762
Jan 23, 2009, 1:52 PM
I agree mac. They should have used the font and size of the lower case lettering that they used on the hotel instead.

mac78130
Jan 23, 2009, 2:21 PM
I like the design of the pillars that will support the pedestrian bridge
flickr photo by SteveMcN (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevemac/3219534725/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/3219534725_9f2e9a180e.jpg?v=0

mac78130
Jan 23, 2009, 2:46 PM
Looks like the porte-cochere at Aria is getting it's paint job.
http://www.citycenter.com/vision/vision_construction.aspx
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh359/mac78130/aria.jpg

patrick84
Jan 23, 2009, 2:53 PM
Doah!

I had a feeling that it was too good to be true.

That's what I was thinking too.

Thanks for the info!

mac78130
Jan 23, 2009, 7:45 PM
I think the Cosmo Beach tower is topped out. There wasn't any announcement when the spa tower topped out so I don't think there will be one for the beach tower?
Flickr photo taken Jan. 21 (click link for larger view)
by funkyjanap (http://www.flickr.com/photos/funkyjanap/3219920813/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/3219920813_6841792405.jpg?v=0
THE COMPLETED FLOOR COUNT I COUNTED WAS:
53 FLOORS FOR THE SPA TOWER AND 51 FOR THE BEACH TOWER. ANYONE COUNT DIFFERENT?
REMEMBER THE PODIUM LEVEL FOR THE SPA TOWER IS 5 FLOORS AND THE FIRST BALCONY STARTS ON THE 6TH FLOOR
AND FOR THE BEACH TOWER THE PODIUM IS 4 FLOORS WITH THE FIRST BALCONY STARTING ON THE 5TH FLOOR

EMPORIS HAS THE SAME COUNT :tup:
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/cx/?id=110653

mac78130
Jan 24, 2009, 4:53 AM
When it comes to floor count, I really don't think Aria is really 61 floors. I think the floors 40-49 are being left out because of the asian superstition.

CHAPINM1
Jan 24, 2009, 4:56 AM
When it comes to floor count, I really don't think Aria is really 61 floors. I think the floors 40-49 are being left out because of the asian superstition.

I agree, I've always thought it was in the 50 floor range. I think both the towers at Cosmo are technically in the 50 floor range as well.

Patrick
Jan 24, 2009, 9:32 AM
I remember how excited I was for the Cosmopolitan, but as time went on the design just got boringer and boringer, but at least they were built! They look alright, just alright I guess haha.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1101/739521008_873f872c8d_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/424322051_bc9da9c268_b.jpg

mdiederi
Jan 24, 2009, 7:33 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/424322051_bc9da9c268_b.jpg

That rendering is way jacked out of proportion, it's covering land they never had a chance of owning.

mac78130
Jan 24, 2009, 11:24 PM
He has pics of PH Towers new sign...much better. And the glass is topped out now.

http://www.vegasrex.com/
He also has the cheesy westgate pics up as well.

lfc4life
Jan 25, 2009, 12:08 AM
That rendering is way jacked out of proportion, it's covering land they never had a chance of owning.

and the two cosmo towers are at least 1000 feet tall as well in that render :haha:

lfc4life
Jan 25, 2009, 12:38 AM
I think the Cosmo Beach tower is topped out. There wasn't any announcement when the spa tower topped out so I don't think there will be one for the beach tower?


i count 46 on the beach tower and 48 on the spa, but thats floors in view (starting from the top of jockey club), i labelled each floor

http://i39.tinypic.com/dfblao.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/funkyjanap/3219920813/sizes/o/

Krases
Jan 25, 2009, 1:35 AM
Any news on what they are going to do with the Jockey Club?

It looks very out of place.

voice of reason
Jan 25, 2009, 2:06 AM
Why would you think that it was going anywhere?

It is a timeshare with tens of thousands of owners. They sold Eichner the property that Cosmo is built upon and agreed to remodel Jockey Club (outside) as part of the deal.

mac78130
Jan 25, 2009, 2:40 AM
Here's a better view of Cosmo, original view is available through link.
I always counted the roof as a complete floor.
flickr photo taken by esthereggy (http://flickr.com/photos/esthereggy/3217541641/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/3217541641_4026e0bd6d_b.jpg

mac78130
Jan 25, 2009, 3:32 AM
That's good news... Hopefully it's a permanent move and draws more tourist so in the future some of the stalled projects can be completed
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3857941&campaign=rss&source=NHLHeadlines

sw5710
Jan 25, 2009, 5:02 AM
Here's a better view of Cosmo, original view is available through link.
I always counted the roof as a complete floor.
flickr photo taken by esthereggy (http://flickr.com/photos/esthereggy/3217541641/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/3217541641_4026e0bd6d_b.jpg

I think The cosmo Is the tallest hotel on this end of the strip.

CHAPINM1
Jan 25, 2009, 5:40 AM
Aria is technically south of Cosmo, I'd say that's the tallest hotel at the south end. On another issue regarding Cosmo, it's finally great to see it work it's way more and more toward finally being complete! Remember way back when all we were looking at were the multiple cores that rise from the pit and that's all we saw for a very long time? Kind of hard to believe how long ago that was... Also great to hear about the NHL awards, congrats Vegas!!!

sw5710
Jan 25, 2009, 6:32 AM
Aria is technically south of Cosmo, I'd say that's the tallest hotel at the south end. On another issue regarding Cosmo, it's finally great to see it work it's way more and more toward finally being complete! Remember way back when all we were looking at were the multiple cores that rise from the pit and that's all we saw for a very long time? Kind of hard to believe how long ago that was... Also great to hear about the NHL awards, congrats Vegas!!!
Do they have the same opening dates?

justdefended
Jan 25, 2009, 6:32 AM
Here's a better view of Cosmo, original view is available through link.
I always counted the roof as a complete floor.
flickr photo taken by esthereggy (http://flickr.com/photos/esthereggy/3217541641/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/3217541641_4026e0bd6d_b.jpg

Great shot. At least Cosmo was one of the projects that made it through the credit crisis.

Not sure how Deutche is going to find a buyer anytime soon or how the condo owners are going to close even in early 2010.

CHAPINM1
Jan 25, 2009, 6:44 AM
Do they have the same opening dates?

Good question, I know when Aria opens but not any part of the Cosmo complex.

mac78130
Jan 25, 2009, 5:29 PM
As more glass is added to the top of Mandarin, I'm starting to doubt there was some type of film over the glass. It seems to be the final product which kind of ruins the sleek design.

Krases
Jan 25, 2009, 5:36 PM
Why would you think that it was going anywhere?

It is a timeshare with tens of thousands of owners. They sold Eichner the property that Cosmo is built upon and agreed to remodel Jockey Club (outside) as part of the deal.

Tens of thousands? Huh, thats a lot. I guess thats a pretty good excuse to just remodel it as opposed to rebuilding it.

Although I can't imagine the view is very good on the south side of the building. lol

I hope they do a good job remodeling it.

sw5710
Jan 25, 2009, 6:03 PM
Is Aria and the larger Cosmo tower both the only all hotel towers between them? And does anyone know if the quality of the room's are the same 4 or 5 star?

CosmoVegas
Jan 25, 2009, 7:54 PM
Is Aria and the larger Cosmo tower both the only all hotel towers between them? And does anyone know if the quality of the room's are the same 4 or 5 star?

The Spa tower is the larger Cosmo building, it is not purely a hotel. Going from memory, I believe the Spa tower has 1,200 condo-tels and 800 hotel rooms. The hotel rooms are to the far back, west side of the building. The condos all have a balcony, the hotel rooms do not have a balcony, so it is easy to spot the hotel portion, it's the flat glass section in the back. As far as 4 or 5 star ratings go, that is still up in the air, we all hope to find out soon. I'm pulling for a W hotel, but it seems a Hilton hotel is more likely.:yuck:

MsuMix
Jan 25, 2009, 8:15 PM
Do they have the same opening dates?

Original cosmo opening date was Dec 09, however its been moved back to approx may/june 2010... gotta remember the foreclosure they actually cut cash flow and slowed construction. many pieces of the project have also been totally redesigned in the last few months. I believe vdara is tracking for july 09, and the rest of citycenter dec 09.

CHAPINM1
Jan 25, 2009, 8:36 PM
Original cosmo opening date was Dec 09, however its been moved back to approx may/june 2010... gotta remember the foreclosure they actually cut cash flow and slowed construction. many pieces of the project have also been totally redesigned in the last few months. I believe vdara is tracking for july 09, and the rest of citycenter dec 09.

What has been redesigned? I'm guessing the base of the Beach Tower and some of the units.

mac78130
Jan 25, 2009, 9:28 PM
What has been redesigned? I'm guessing the base of the Beach Tower and some of the units.

There was rumor, not sure if it was in this forum, that the casino was going to be moved more closer to the strip. Here is the original layout on VT&T
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/Cosmo%20oblique3d.jpg
Casino floor pdf file
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/pdf/LEVEL1_casino_retail.pdf

sw5710
Jan 25, 2009, 11:57 PM
":banana: THANKS ALL"

Krases
Jan 26, 2009, 12:55 AM
So tell me ya'll, which hotel do you think is next to get blown to pieces?

A demolition is unlikely in this economy, but I am betting that when things pick up and the hotels regain there money flow, some major construction will take off.

I think Imperial palace may be the next victim. In fact, I think the Flamingo, Harrah's and the Imperial palace my fall victim to a new mega-project.

I am basing this upon absolutely nothing. :D

justdefended
Jan 26, 2009, 4:45 AM
So tell me ya'll, which hotel do you think is next to get blown to pieces?

A demolition is unlikely in this economy, but I am betting that when things pick up and the hotels regain there money flow, some major construction will take off.

I think Imperial palace may be the next victim. In fact, I think the Flamingo, Harrah's and the Imperial palace my fall victim to a new mega-project.

I am basing this upon absolutely nothing. :D

In my best and brightest dream a large cannonball will strike Imperial Palace and knock it down to its knees. I can still picture that white hair I found in my salad 20 years ago. Wouldn't care if Harrah's was knocked down either.

I'm hoping Harmon Ave. eventually gets developed. The whole second Strip on Harmon seemed appealing to me to displace a bit of the Strip scene yet allow customers to be near it. Of course, nothing needs to be demolished there anymore.

MsuMix
Jan 26, 2009, 5:23 AM
What has been redesigned? I'm guessing the base of the Beach Tower and some of the units.

Podium levels 1 and 2 major facelift - casino space expanded, retail space moved around, new feature bar, upgraded finishes, lots of cool stuff. The rec deck areas have been redesigned as well some big changes (new pools, bars, etc) and some areas just finishes. Only adjustment to units I believe are minor finish changes

sw5710
Jan 26, 2009, 6:40 AM
On the web you should look at "CASINO DEATH WATCH". It is all about vegas!

Krases
Jan 26, 2009, 7:51 AM
In my best and brightest dream a large cannonball will strike Imperial Palace and knock it down to its knees. I can still picture that white hair I found in my salad 20 years ago. Wouldn't care if Harrah's was knocked down either.

I'm hoping Harmon Ave. eventually gets developed. The whole second Strip on Harmon seemed appealing to me to displace a bit of the Strip scene yet allow customers to be near it. Of course, nothing needs to be demolished there anymore.

Ewwww lol.

Harrahs, Flamingo, the Imperial palace, Bills gambling hall and Bally's could all get a nice makeover with a wrecking ball. Then build a giant mega casino on the scale of city center by using all that land. Purchasing Westin to make it a solid property and purchasing casino royal because its annoying also looks like a good addition. The new casino could be epic.

I mean, thats what I would build if I was the new CEO of the company and I got the job after donating fifteen billion dollars to Harrahs (Caesars?). Who's with me!? All I need are over 750,000,000 donations of $19.95! We can do it guys! :jester:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7007/hotelplan1dh7.png (http://imageshack.us)

heyyoucharlie
Jan 26, 2009, 8:43 AM
Don't be surprised if the Palms owners buy Bally's/Paris from Harrahs... ;)

The Kings would be a nice addition to the strip in the arena that is proposed behind those properties...

**fingers crossed** that this rumor is true!!!

lfc4life
Jan 26, 2009, 5:45 PM
the great thing about this credit crunch is that most hotels on the strip are now safe for at least the next 15 years i would think. boyd made a terrible error knocking stardust, flamingo i can now see celebrating its 80th, 90th birthday now :)

2 years ago i was totally opposed to vegas building 5 star resort after 5 star resort, the town and more importantly the strip needs its imperial palaces, harrahs, stardusts etc. you build 2 or 3 places like city center then what is unique about each of those massive resorts?? every resort no matter how tacky that was built in the 1990s were unique

there are plenty of places to build a resort on the strip without having to knock treasures like flamingo e.g lot across from sahara hotel, wet and wild site, across from luxor/mandalay bay and not to forget the frontier site or the echelon site (both of these projects are dead imo)

mac78130
Jan 26, 2009, 5:55 PM
Mirage volcano already needing repairs?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/3227958912_d3f356f6cb.jpg?v=0
flickr photo by stits (http://flickr.com/photos/stits/3227958912/)

CosmoVegas
Jan 26, 2009, 5:58 PM
Cosmopolitan has a new website:

http://www.lvcosmo.com/

mac78130
Jan 26, 2009, 6:32 PM
Cosmopolitan has a new website:

http://www.lvcosmo.com/

Thanks for the link !

CosmoVegas
Jan 26, 2009, 7:09 PM
the great thing about this credit crunch is that most hotels on the strip are now safe for at least the next 15 years i would think. boyd made a terrible error knocking stardust, flamingo i can now see celebrating its 80th, 90th birthday now :)

2 years ago i was totally opposed to vegas building 5 star resort after 5 star resort, the town and more importantly the strip needs its imperial palaces, harrahs, stardusts etc. you build 2 or 3 places like city center then what is unique about each of those massive resorts?? every resort no matter how tacky that was built in the 1990s were unique

there are plenty of places to build a resort on the strip without having to knock treasures like flamingo e.g lot across from sahara hotel, wet and wild site, across from luxor/mandalay bay and not to forget the frontier site or the echelon site (both of these projects are dead imo)

Not only do I agree with you, I think the strip needs more tacky resorts, the themed Vegas is the best part of Vegas if you ask me. Here’s is a quick story of my flight into Vegas last Thursday, it's kind of on the same subject:

I was in the second to last row of the plane, behind me and on both sides of the isle there was a group of six young twenty-something “kids”, as we turned to land they were looking out of the windows, pointing and identifying or at least trying to identify the casinos. Other than the MGM, and Mirage they could identify just the themed casinos. Had MGM not been that tacky green color of it’s Emerald City past, it would not have been mentioned, as one of the girls said she knew the name of the “blue colored one”, but could not remember it. Besides the themed casinos, there was little talk of the others until one of them seen the HOTEL, and then the new Westgate PH sign. IMHO, it was the tacky colors of the new PH tower and the tacky spelling of the HOTEL that made them stand out. Love it or hate it, Vegas is more identifiable now than ever before because of the tacky icons, I hope to see more. And since I’m on the subject of bad changes, the energy efficient Vegas is lame, forget pleasing the rest of the world, wrap CityCenter in ten miles of neon and flashing lights, then donate the LEED certification to the Neon museum.

ieguy441
Jan 26, 2009, 9:04 PM
Mirage volcano already needing repairs?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/3227958912_d3f356f6cb.jpg?v=0
flickr photo by stits (http://flickr.com/photos/stits/3227958912/)

The final night was last Sunday. My girlfriend and I got to see it a few times that night, but the next day those signs were posted and the lagoon was being drained. I asked someone at Mirage what was going on and they said they still had some issues with the new technology and that it should reopen mid-February.

Here are some pics I took last Tuesday.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2807526820101391235odyyQu
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2128836960101391235qqZrpQ
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2960444010101391235RlIbdj

NYC2ATX
Jan 26, 2009, 9:19 PM
Ewwww lol.

Harrahs, Flamingo, the Imperial palace, Bills gambling hall and Bally's could all get a nice makeover with a wrecking ball. Then build a giant mega casino on the scale of city center by using all that land. Purchasing Westin to make it a solid property and purchasing casino royal because its annoying also looks like a good addition. The new casino could be epic.


Actually, as much as I love the fact that Vegas is constantly reinventing itself and building bigger and better....I don't like that idea :previous: at all. I would be upset if the Flamingo was demolished because of the history there (Vegas can't abandon EVERY piece of history in the city), and, with Caesars across the street, CityCenter now down the block, and the Venetian-Palazzo complex next door, I feel like there would be far too much MEGA-complexes there, you know? I feel like if Harrah's, IP & Bally's were redeveloped, they would best be reorganized into new smaller developments that are far more cohesive and less tacky, maybe some more residential buildings or boutique hotels. That area would be scary if everything was that HUGE.

ieguy441
Jan 26, 2009, 9:45 PM
double post.

ieguy441
Jan 26, 2009, 9:47 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3228995393_4626fb2be3_b.jpg
flickr photo by Me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51061659)

justdefended
Jan 26, 2009, 9:48 PM
I like Vegas history and the themes should be kept. However places like IP, Harrah's and Flamingo don't have to be gaudy, old, and unkept to have character. Tear them down and make themed, smaller casinos in the same vein, or renovate them so that they don't dilapidate into junk status.

Take new local places like South Point. Sure, they attract a rougher crowd with lower limits, but the place is clean, bright, and pleasant to stay in. There are also enough cowboys in there to make it seem like a parade every week. The place has character, yet it's clean and budget friendly.

The Strip has enough room for big and small places and that's the way it should always be.

ieguy441
Jan 26, 2009, 9:53 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3229015461_2c29acb10c_b.jpg
flickr photo by Me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51061659)

Complex01
Jan 26, 2009, 10:18 PM
Nice, now that is a room with a view...

:tup:

ieguy441
Jan 26, 2009, 10:21 PM
Nice, now that is a room with a view...

:tup:
..tell me about it!! It was the best 5 nights of my life. These were taken from E6310, right next door to the Sky casino. We were right in the middle of the last "e" in Encore. I'm trying to upload the rest of my pics to my Flickr.

linda t
Jan 26, 2009, 10:54 PM
I love coming to Vegas (http://www.vegas.cc/) all these years, and now things are changing rapidly- some good and some bad. Look at the Palazzo, their focus is totally in going green and has been awarded Silver Leed Certification by U.S. Green Building Council. The city of Vegas (http://lasvegas.traveler.bz/) as a whole desperately needs to emphasize more on eco-friendly environmental issues.

lfc4life
Jan 26, 2009, 11:30 PM
..tell me about it!! It was the best 5 nights of my life. These were taken from E6310, right next door to the Sky casino. We were right in the middle of the last "e" in Encore. I'm trying to upload the rest of my pics to my Flickr.

so there are using the swoop part of encore for rooms and a casino, thats good to know

I like Vegas history and the themes should be kept. However places like IP, Harrah's and Flamingo don't have to be gaudy, old, and unkept to have character. Tear them down and make themed, smaller casinos in the same vein, or renovate them so that they don't dilapidate into junk status.

tear down a 3,700 room casino and build a smaller casino in its place, can't ever see that happening in mid-strip. flamingo renovated a 1/3 of its rooms into go suites in 2007

mac78130
Jan 26, 2009, 11:44 PM
I love coming to Vegas (http://www.vegas.cc/) all these years, and now things are changing rapidly- some good and some bad. Look at the Palazzo, their focus is totally in going green and has been awarded Silver Leed Certification by U.S. Green Building Council. The city of Vegas (http://lasvegas.traveler.bz/) as a whole desperately needs to emphasize more on eco-friendly environmental issues.

Is this some kind of advertisement?
The links make me think so !

case_architect
Jan 26, 2009, 11:50 PM
tear down a 3,700 room casino and build a smaller casino in its place, can't ever see that happening in mid-strip. flamingo renovated a 1/3 of its rooms into go suites in 2007

i worked at the flamingo a couple summers ago and had access to the executive meeting room. they had a bunch of renderings of their planned remodel. they all included a remodeled casino and a new club/ beach club above on the southwest corner of the property. most included recladding the hotel towers. a few with a cool smoke colored glass. complete remodel of the 17 acre pool area. and one even included a new tower on the northeast corner of the property aligned with the current towers. i wish i had pics. not sure if these are still relevant. maybe delayed? a reclad seems like it wouldn't be too difficult. if you look closely, the current windows are installed between the floor slabs so they would be easy to remove and hang a new facade. i wouldn't mind seeing the flamingo stick around with some new skin.

CharoogAjram
Jan 27, 2009, 12:07 AM
Tear down a 3,700 room casino and build a smaller casino in its place, can't ever see that happening in mid-strip.

I like that idea. Don't get me wrong I love the meg resorts coming to Vegas, but a small resort could fit well on The Strip.

I imagine Harrah's, IP, and O'Sheas being torn down and a small, yet spacious casino-resort being built there. ;)

Krases
Jan 27, 2009, 12:47 AM
I like that idea. Don't get me wrong I love the meg resorts coming to Vegas, but a small resort could fit well on The Strip.

I imagine Harrah's, IP, and O'Sheas being torn down and a small, yet spacious casino-resort being built there. ;)

But were will teenagers get alcohol without getting carded? Think of the disservice you will be doing by demolishing O'Sheas. :rolleyes:

CharoogAjram
Jan 27, 2009, 12:58 AM
But were will teenagers get alcohol without getting carded? Think of the disservice you will be doing by demolishing O'Sheas. :rolleyes:

I hate to sound rude and all but O'Sheas is just old and ghetto IMO.
And those kids can find a place. Vegas is a huge city. :haha:

lfc4life
Jan 27, 2009, 1:02 AM
the only thing that we would have if they knocked IP, harrahs, o'sheas, flamingo and casino royale is a huge empty lot ala whats left of frontier, once city center and fblue finish up thats it people, no more resorts on the strip for years and years and years :(

CharoogAjram
Jan 27, 2009, 1:20 AM
Oh I forgot about Casino Royale. That has to go too.

They will never get rid of Flamigo. Its the original. They should make an extension of it in the land that belonged to IP.

My plans would be bulldoze CR, Harrah's, Oshea's and IP, build a new, modern expansion to Flamingo in the land of O'Sheas and partly IP, and build a nice maybe tower-esque hotel where Harrah's, CR, and the other part of IP was, next to the Venetian.

I'll make a map of it shortly.

CharoogAjram
Jan 27, 2009, 1:30 AM
Ok, here's something I made on paint.
As you can see the Flamingo exp. I was talking about isn't huge.

Also, I don't think Harrah's would mind their hotels going down. Look at all those future projects they plan to build.

My main reason for thinking of this is becuase that area of the Strip is just too old and crowded.

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Picture courtesy of VegasTodayAndTomorrow.com

RandalR
Jan 27, 2009, 1:42 AM
I think Harrah's is too broke to do much of anything right now. Selling off their empire piece by piece, starting with Bally's and Paris, is more likely. Just like MGM is having to do to get CityCenter finished. Overall it should be a positive for Las Vegas, since service started downhill several years ago when these two firms began buying up and homogenizing every casino/hotel in sight.

lfc4life
Jan 27, 2009, 1:59 AM
I think Harrah's is too broke to do much of anything right now. Selling off their empire piece by piece, starting with Bally's and Paris, is more likely. Just like MGM is having to do to get CityCenter finished. Overall it should be a positive for Las Vegas, since service started downhill several years ago when these two firms began buying up and homogenizing every casino/hotel in sight.

harrahs can't even complete their new caesars tower, never mind building another casino.

i agree the breakup of the mgm/harrahs duopoly will be a good thing for the vegas, as much bad press as harrahs gets at least they didn't remove every theme from the casinos they bought up, thank god mgm never got their hands on caesars :banana:

sw5710
Jan 27, 2009, 2:32 AM
harrahs can't even complete their new caesars tower, never mind building another casino.

i agree the breakup of the mgm/harrahs duopoly will be a good thing for the vegas, as much bad press as harrahs gets at least they didn't remove every theme from the casinos they bought up, thank god mgm never got their hands on caesars :banana:

Hey great shots from Encore. I will stay there this year. I have stayed at wynn twice.

Krases
Jan 27, 2009, 2:48 AM
the only thing that we would have if they knocked IP, harrahs, o'sheas, flamingo and casino royale is a huge empty lot ala whats left of frontier, once city center and fblue finish up thats it people, no more resorts on the strip for years and years and years :(

Well construction comes in booms here in Vegas. The first major one was in the early 90's. Then there was another boom in the early 2000's.

It all depends upon the economy. Hopefully things will stop getting worse by the time City Center is complete. When the economy stabilizes and comes back I think we will see another massive building boom.

justdefended
Jan 27, 2009, 6:24 AM
Well construction comes in booms here in Vegas. The first major one was in the early 90's. Then there was another boom in the early 2000's.

It all depends upon the economy. Hopefully things will stop getting worse by the time City Center is complete. When the economy stabilizes and comes back I think we will see another massive building boom.

I think there were so many great ideas that went bust, but at least the boom ignited a small wave of development, including The Signature, Palms Place, Cosmo, Trump, and Encore.

I'm probably most excited about CityCenter. It's over-the-top ambitious attitude in design is something that could only be born out of a housing boom. It's a shame it has to open in such a disastrous economy, but it'll definitely help Vegas grow and be the biggest new draw to the Vegas economy for many years.

ieguy441
Jan 27, 2009, 6:39 AM
so there are using the swoop part of encore for rooms and a casino, thats good to know




Actually, the last floor is the one above the last tan colored band... the floor above that is mechanical, and the swoop is just framing.

I should have said that we were UNDER the last "e".

MrV
Jan 27, 2009, 12:57 PM
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MrV
Jan 27, 2009, 12:57 PM
Vegasrex.com is reporting that the north side of the PH tower will also get the yellow westgate sign.

http://www.vegasrex.com/newsimages/pwest2.jpg
Picture by vegasrex http://www.vegasrex.com

lfc4life
Jan 27, 2009, 3:52 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2j28dw6.jpg

original size is awesome :banana:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/winninator2003/3207182626/sizes/o/

mac78130
Jan 27, 2009, 5:55 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2j28dw6.jpg

original size is awesome :banana:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/winninator2003/3207182626/sizes/o/

It would of been nice if the Harmon Hotel could have been built to its planned height. The glass would have really shimmered in this photo :(

voice of reason
Jan 27, 2009, 6:57 PM
Thanks for the link !

The website gives NO clue as to the direction the project will take. No offer to sale, no convention booking link (as Hyatt had), no employement info, no info on retail leasing. No nothing!

I suppose they have lots of behind the scenes deals cooking. The ladies at the sales office almost read off a script and look around like they think they are being recorded, which they probably are.

Very curious...

VegasMatt
Jan 27, 2009, 7:18 PM
I like that idea. Don't get me wrong I love the meg resorts coming to Vegas, but a small resort could fit well on The Strip.

I imagine Harrah's, IP, and O'Sheas being torn down and a small, yet spacious casino-resort being built there. ;)

I agree small casinos definitely have a place on the Strip. The most enjoyable areas of the Strip to walk are near cramped middle.
The cluster of activity and bright lights really adds to the excitement. As much as I like the mega resorts like the Wynn and Venetian Complex, they just don’t create much excitement form the Street. Personally, I feel it was a mistake making the newer resorts less pedestrian friendly. There is a reason they aren’t getting as much foot traffic.

It would be a shame to see some of the smaller venues disappear since they add so much character to the Strip. Before we talk about imploding more casinos, we should be really talking about filling in some of the empty lots. Most notably the one on the corner of Harmon and Las Vegas Blvd. It would also be nice to see something a little more exciting in front of Ballys.

lfc4life
Jan 27, 2009, 8:07 PM
It would of been nice if the Harmon Hotel could have been built to its planned height. The glass would have really shimmered in this photo :(

yeah its a great pity about harmon, a 500ft+ harmon would have fitted right in amongst the other monsters going up in that area of the strip, but i suppose beggars can't be choosers

the one thing that caught my eye in that photo is how much aria totally dwarfs the 30 story monte carlo

ieguy441
Jan 27, 2009, 8:30 PM
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flickr photo by Me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51061659@N00/)

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Steve Covington

ieguy441
Jan 27, 2009, 9:01 PM
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All photos 2009 Steve Covington

ieguy441
Jan 27, 2009, 9:55 PM
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Landscaping between Bellagio and Cosmo/Jockey Club

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I wonder when they will re-clad Jockey Club?

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Cosmo beach tower topped out?

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RandalR
Jan 27, 2009, 10:01 PM
The website gives NO clue as to the direction the project will take. No offer to sale, no convention booking link (as Hyatt had), no employement info, no info on retail leasing. No nothing!

I suppose they have lots of behind the scenes deals cooking. The ladies at the sales office almost read off a script and look around like they think they are being recorded, which they probably are.

Very curious...

Well, that tends to support the persistent rumor that they are just going to halt work on Cosmo as soon as the exteriors are finished and start searching for a new buyer.

justdefended
Jan 27, 2009, 10:56 PM
The fan logo on Mandarin Oriental is now up. Sorry, missed getting a shot of it from the freeway.

With the logo added on, the transition between the film on the top glass and the rest of the building doesn't look so bad. It looks like it was done to provide a border for the logo.

Krases
Jan 27, 2009, 11:22 PM
It would be a shame to see some of the smaller venues disappear since they add so much character to the Strip. Before we talk about imploding more casinos, we should be really talking about filling in some of the empty lots. Most notably the one on the corner of Harmon and Las Vegas Blvd. It would also be nice to see something a little more exciting in front of Ballys.

Who owns that little plot at Harmon and LVB?

It would be nice to see something built there. I think the ramp from City center to across the street is supposed to go there right? Maybe a little satellite of city center could go there too.

jazfingr
Jan 27, 2009, 11:23 PM
Nice photos iegug441...thanks
I sent you a private message

jazfingr
Jan 27, 2009, 11:44 PM
Who owns that little plot at Harmon and LVB?

It would be nice to see something built there. I think the ramp from City center to across the street is supposed to go there right? Maybe a little satellite of city center could go there too.

That land is owned by the county.

Krases
Jan 27, 2009, 11:57 PM
That land is owned by the county.

Hmm ok. Now might be a good time to buy seeing as prices have probably gone down on strip property.

sw5710
Jan 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
Great shots of Encore-Fblue and City center.

mdiederi
Jan 28, 2009, 12:03 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3229035529_6831b48ecc_b.jpg
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Today I saw that crane is being lowered.

mdiederi
Jan 28, 2009, 12:05 AM
Hmm ok. Now might be a good time to buy seeing as prices have probably gone down on strip property.
There's a lot of construction activity on that land right now, for the pedestrian bridge and a possible realignment of Harmon.

CharoogAjram
Jan 28, 2009, 12:13 AM
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Wow! I love that last picture!
Where is that? In Encore?

jazfingr
Jan 28, 2009, 3:22 AM
I bet the county is sitting on it for a profit. Too bad they didn't sell while the market is hot. A chunk of the land is being used for the Harmon Rd. realignment and the bridge from Cosmo. There's plenty of room for a tower there (140' x 500'). The lot would be able to hold a building similar in size to The Harmon (and kill some of the views from PH).

You inspired me to do a quick-study model on the site to see how a tower would look. I shortened The Harmon in the model (lol) :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3371/3232397069_94eea5c753_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3489/3233247046_4f25085c0e_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/3232397011_ba6efbb2e9_o.jpg

CharoogAjram
Jan 28, 2009, 5:19 AM
^^ Those are nice.
Good work.

Krases
Jan 28, 2009, 5:25 AM
Thats pretty cool. Its amazing what you can fit in a little spot if you build vertically. No exposed roof either.

On the subject of roofs, I have noticed that a lot of hotels have these giant wasteland's when it comes to roofs on top of the lower sections of the hotel. The Mirage, Bellagio, MGM Grand and Caesars all seem to be the biggest offenders with these vast open deserts on there roofs.

It would be expensive to say, build pools, spa's, outdoor amenities and lounge areas on these vast open spaces, but I think that as competition increases and land value goes up while new construction methods get better, we may start to see stuff actually being built on these huge empty spaces.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3502/unusedspacenc0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Wasted! :frog:

lfc4life
Jan 28, 2009, 2:17 PM
awesome work Jaz :worship:

you made the stump (harmon) look half decent there

samoen313
Jan 28, 2009, 4:31 PM
Thats pretty cool. Its amazing what you can fit in a little spot if you build vertically. No exposed roof either.

On the subject of roofs, I have noticed that a lot of hotels have these giant wasteland's when it comes to roofs on top of the lower sections of the hotel. The Mirage, Bellagio, MGM Grand and Caesars all seem to be the biggest offenders with these vast open deserts on there roofs.

It would be expensive to say, build pools, spa's, outdoor amenities and lounge areas on these vast open spaces, but I think that as competition increases and land value goes up while new construction methods get better, we may start to see stuff actually being built on these huge empty spaces.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3502/unusedspacenc0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Wasted! :frog:

You aren't entirely off base. I mean, I don't know exactly what you might put on all that open space. A park? A campground? It's a lot of space to use. Also, a lot of the space does need to be set aside for HVAC and mechanical areas easily accessible to maintenance workers so take out half the area you see up there. Then you have to take into account that those roofs aren't exactly designed to handle much more weight than the roof and trying to open the roof to guests would mean they would need to be rebuilt or at least somehow reinforced. There is also drainage and heat issues, etc.

But, it does seem like they could at least put some green roof technology on top. It draws attention to how spread out the complex is. Why not at least use that roof space to handle the (minimal, I know) precipitation and deflect some unnecessary heating? Something along those lines would be totally feasible, though the climate is quite different from what I work with so I'm not sure what adjustments are made or anything.