[mac78130]

CityCenter/Cosmopolitan pedestrian bridge is getting started. Will open in December.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/16/citycenter-pedestrian-bridge-construction-restrict/

[gmcclenon]

Wow, great shots of FB, MAC. Thanks so much for posting them. From that back shot, it looks like they are starting to take down the second crane.

[Krases]

CityCenter/Cosmopolitan pedestrian bridge is getting started. Will open in December.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/16/citycenter-pedestrian-bridge-construction-restrict/

I wonder how long that will take to build. Ten days maybe? Can't wait to see what it looks like.

[sw5710]

Who said that the Planet Hollywood Tower was 535 feet? I think it looks closer to 600 feet. Also, did anybody else know that there is a penthouse pool on the 46th floor?

BTW, awesome finds of Fontaintebleau as always! Not only does it dominate, but it's glass is spactacular! Awesome effect with Sky's reflection and the sun as well!

As for Planet Hollywood tower if it is 600 feet tall the same as CC and Cosmo when looked at from the airport area the Cosmo and CC stand out above it from that area. Could the ground at PH be lower in elivation? Also I cant wait to see how FB is lit at night.

[RandalR]

BTW, awesome finds of Fontaintebleau as always! Not only does it dominate, but it's glass is spactacular!

It will be a lot nicer when they wash it for the first time - it's not especially evident in these pictures, but there is a great deal of winter dust all over it, now.

[Krases]

It will be a lot nicer when they wash it for the first time - it's not especially evident in these pictures, but there is a great deal of winter dust all over it, now.

Plus there seem to be a few windows that need placing on the southward facing wall. I wonder if they really will have some sort of LED system in place.

I am beginning to wonder about city hall. The culinary union might force it onto the ballot for people to vote upon if there appeal to the supreme court is successful.

Why the hell are they so crazy about stopping the new city hall from being built?

[mdiederi]

I wonder how long that will take to build. Ten days maybe?
Three or four days.

[mac78130]

A short youtube video done by Greg Clarke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltUE5QkY4dM

[mac78130]

Are they starting to put the metal facade on the Crystals? The metal "striping" looks similar to the rendering
http://www.daniel-libeskind.com/projects/show-all/mgm-mirage-citycenter/
http://www.daniel-libeskind.com/typo3temp/pics/07459c9f70.jpg

flickr photostream by Vanishing STL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanishingstl/sets/72157617066493436/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3456851147_c6793314c2_b.jpg

[mac78130]

Was more steel added to the top of the podium where the beach club is going to be? For the pedestrian bridge I'm guess the escalators will be inside the Cosmo, because I only see a stair case and framing for an elevator.

flickr photostream by Vanishing STL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanishingstl/sets/72157617066493436/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3576/3456869457_379cca2f34_b.jpg

[mac78130]

Fontainbleau making it's presence known ;)

flickr photo by Steve & Maricel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_inga/3456101595/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3628/3456101595_3668dce5fb_b.jpg

[justdefended]

Are they starting to put the metal facade on the Crystals? The metal "striping" looks similar to the rendering
http://www.daniel-libeskind.com/projects/show-all/mgm-mirage-citycenter/
http://www.daniel-libeskind.com/typo3temp/pics/07459c9f70.jpg

flickr photostream by Vanishing STL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanishingstl/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3456851147_c6793314c2_b.jpg

Looks like you're right. Which means the current lines have nothing to do with the final pattern.

[mdiederi]

Great, cause I don't care for the white at all.

[mac78130]

Be sure to check out Vanishing STL's photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanishingstl/sets/72157617066493436/). Great photos of CityCenter, Cosmopolitan and even photos of inside the CC sales pavillion (I'm guessing they are allowing photos now, don't see why not?)

flickr photostream by Vanishng STL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanishingstl/sets/72157617066493436/)
Tram Station behind Monte Carlo
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3457066025_77e6f8f91e_b.jpg

[mac78130]

The first span for the CC/Cosmo pedestrian bridge was put in place early this morning. Amazing how everything is coming together. Vdara's opening is just around the corner, a little over 5 months from now :)

[Krases]

Be sure to check out Vanishing STL's photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanishingstl/sets/72157617066493436/). Great photos of CityCenter, Cosmopolitan and even photos of inside the CC sales pavillion (I'm guessing they are allowing photos now, don't see why not?)

flickr photostream by Vanishng STL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanishingstl/sets/72157617066493436/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3457066025_77e6f8f91e_b.jpg

That can't be the pedestrian bridge can it? It looks VERY big.

[mac78130]

That can't be the pedestrian bridge can it? It looks VERY big.

No, that's not the pedestrian bridge. That's the tram station that is being built behind Monte Carlo.... I think you got my post confused (two separate post).

[Krases]

Ah I see now. I wonder when we will see the people mover being tested for the first time? I wouldn't be surprised if it is one of the last things to open up.

[mac78130]

Art installation has already begun. Nancy Rubins "Big Pleasure Point" can be seen near the Vdara porte cochere.
flickr photo by PTaverna (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paolotaverna/3461793262/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3573/3461793262_deb4607690_b.jpg

[mac78130]

CityCenter construction page has been updated. I won't post all the pics because there's enough pics on this page. So follow the link if you want to see the rest. http://www.citycenter.com/vision/vision_construction.aspx

A good view of Tram and the fire station.
http://www.citycenter.com/images/shared/construction/construction_4.jpg

[justdefended]

CityCenter construction page has been updated. I won't post all the pics because there's enough pics on this page. So follow the link if you want to see the rest. http://www.citycenter.com/vision/vision_construction.aspx

A good view of Tram and the fire station.
http://www.citycenter.com/images/shared/construction/construction_4.jpg

What great shots. It's amazing to see everything come together.

[silverbow]

Hilton suspends hotel brand planned for Las Vegas

Decision comes amid allegations of corporate espionage (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/21/hilton-abandons-hotel-brand-planned-las-vegas/)

[rhassoii]

^

[scrapernerd]

Hi, So I live in Salt Lake but I commute out to West Wendover to work on the ambulace out there. Well there are rumors all over that town of 2 ,12 story tower coming in around 2012 and I can not find anything about it. I was wonder if any of you have seen or heard anything? If not no problems and sorry for talking about wendover in a Las vegas thread

[voice of reason]

Hilton suspends hotel brand planned for Las Vegas

Decision comes amid allegations of corporate espionage (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/21/hilton-abandons-hotel-brand-planned-las-vegas/)

I never liked the sound of Denizen or 'Den'. Now those names will fade away and nobody will remember them in relation to the Cosmo.

One wouldn't think that Deutsche Bank would be too pleased by this turn of events. It will be costly and time consuming to undo what has been done.

It won't be easy to find and cut a suitable deal with a quality hotel operator, especially with every operator in the city in dire straits and the national economy extremely weak.

Things can't get any weirder. Can they?

[RandalR]

Hilton suspends hotel brand planned for Las Vegas


So they can just make the Cosmopolitan the new Las Vegas Hilton. The old one's licensing agreement runs out about the same time.

[Krases]

So they can just make the Cosmopolitan the new Las Vegas Hilton. The old one's licensing agreement runs out about the same time.

Really?

Now that IS interesting. I would have never thought of that.

[mac78130]

The possibility of Mirage being sold?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04222009/business/kirks_mirage_may_disappear_165562.htm?dbk

[Krases]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124053251540150809.html

Drama over Fontainblue. It might now get completed because the bank withdrew a 800 million dollar loan. FB is suing the bank(s) because they say the banks violated the terms of financing and can't legally withdraw the loan.

Lets hope FB wins. FB is suing for 3 billion dollars. I can't imagine what they would be able to do with that sort of cash.

[voice of reason]

Lawsuits are always filed for 'pie in the sky' amounts that everyone involved knows is b.s.

Fighting this many large banks will be very costly for FB and could cost them valuable time and other construction costs if they cant fund the project to completion. The banks could easily stall and just wait out FB, they surely have time on their sides.

[Krases]

Lawsuits are always filed for 'pie in the sky' amounts that everyone involved knows is b.s.

Fighting this many large banks will be very costly for FB and could cost them valuable time and other construction costs if they cant fund the project to completion. The banks could easily stall and just wait out FB, they surely have time on their sides.

Yeah and FB would probably go bankrupt seeing as this is only there second or third property. What in the hell do the banks earn by doing this? The project is SO close to completion its horrible that the banks are doing this.

Even though I doubt they will get 3 billion, I still hope they win.

Can the banks really "wait-out" FB like that? It seems like they are the ones being sued, so its probably not there choice to just sit back and ignore the legal system.

[voice of reason]

I hope the reason for the pulling of funding comes to light soon, it will be revealing.

Lawsuits drag on for years even when you aren't trying to stall. The courts have full calendars and just the slowness of the system takes forever. There are lots of motions that are filed and have to be heard, each on requiring parties to prepare and get on the calendar of the court. With multiple defandants it is much more cumbersome. Then depositions etc. etc.
A case like this could drag multiple years easily, unless a settlement comes, which is usually the case.

[RandalR]

What in the hell do the banks earn by doing this? The project is SO close to completion its horrible that the banks are doing this.


Well, they obviously believe it can't be completed and run profitably as just a hotel, now that the proposed condo sales have shrunk to zero. They probably have a case that FB's execs drastically overstated the potential sales revenue when they took out the loans.

That, plus the rumored delay of FB's opening until April, 2010 is probably more than the banks can tolerate, and they just want to salvage what crumbs they can.

[mac78130]

Interesting article in the Las Vegas Sun about room supply.
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/24/capacity-crunch/
http://media.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2009/04/22/scaled.0424_P_Aria-3_t652.jpg?1b9ad394c43bb038fa9e51a462e45d6568471167

[voice of reason]

Did FB even try to sell any condos? I never saw any prices advertised.
I dont remember them even opening the sales center, not that it would have been possible to sell many.

[Krases]

Did FB even try to sell any condos? I never saw any prices advertised.
I dont remember them even opening the sales center, not that it would have been possible to sell many.

I think they could have sold a COUPLE.

Man it would be kinda cool to have an entire floor to oneself at night.

[RandalR]

Did FB even try to sell any condos? I never saw any prices advertised.
I dont remember them even opening the sales center, not that it would have been possible to sell many.

It's open - they just haven't sold any. Banks won't lend on condotel properties now, essentially requiring an all-cash purchase.

Turnberry Towers' west tower has closed seven units, out of 318 available (many more were "sold", but the buyers backed out before closing.) I hear the lender is trying to convince those seven owners to accept replacement units in the east tower, so they can repurpose the entire building as apartments or even Class A office space.

Other tales I hear are that FB's multiple owners can't agree on what to do with the top two floors, and will not finish them out - and also that they aren't going to finish out the interior of the convention center due to limited demand.

[CHAPINM1]

It's open - they just haven't sold any. Banks won't lend on condotel properties now, essentially requiring an all-cash purchase.

Turnberry Towers' west tower has closed seven units, out of 318 available (many more were "sold", but the buyers backed out before closing.) I hear the lender is trying to convince those seven owners to accept replacement units in the east tower, so they can repurpose the entire building as apartments or even Class A office space.

Other tales I hear are that FB's multiple owners can't agree on what to do with the top two floors, and will not finish them out - and also that they aren't going to finish out the interior of the convention center due to limited demand.


Las Vegas NEEDS HIGHRISE APARTMENTS, that's one thing it is lacking. I have been trying to scope out highrise apartments in Las Vegas for when I move out there but I see there really are none, just a shitload of condos.

Also, I thought the top two floors will be a restaurant/bar/lounge.

[mac78130]

Youtube video of pedestrian bridge girder going up. Not a whole lot of excitement, but just interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uZR5uKTe90

[gmcclenon]

Las Vegas NEEDS HIGHRISE APARTMENTS, that's one thing it is lacking. I have been trying to scope out highrise apartments in Las Vegas for when I move out there but I see there really are none, just a shitload of condos.

Also, I thought the top two floors will be a restaurant/bar/lounge.

I think Sky Las Vegas would work. The developer as well as some owners are renting their condo units out. Sky could end up being one of the only residential high rises on the strip that gets completed?

[voice of reason]

It's open - they just haven't sold any. Banks won't lend on condotel properties now, essentially requiring an all-cash purchase.

Turnberry Towers' west tower has closed seven units, out of 318 available (many more were "sold", but the buyers backed out before closing.) I hear the lender is trying to convince those seven owners to accept replacement units in the east tower, so they can repurpose the entire building as apartments or even Class A office space.

Other tales I hear are that FB's multiple owners can't agree on what to do with the top two floors, and will not finish them out - and also that they aren't going to finish out the interior of the convention center due to limited demand.

I have to correct some misinformation here. FB never offered for sale or sold any condos of either the condo/hotel or residential condo type. They built the sales office but that is as far as it went.

[mac78130]

CityCenter's unresolved discrepancies

http://www.lvrj.com/news/43733857.html

[mac78130]

flickr photo by Dodgeme23 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30397273@N06/3480870445/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3480870445_c61a54e913_b.jpg

[VegasBound]

I hear Fountainebleau is shutting down construction. Hopefully things will get worked out and back on track soon.

[CHAPINM1]

I hear Fountainebleau is shutting down construction. Hopefully things will get worked out and back on track soon.

Well thank fuck they've at least made it this far anyway!!! Speaking of which what the hell ever happened to the $2.8 billion in financing?

[Krases]

Well thank fuck they've at least made it this far anyway!!! Speaking of which what the hell ever happened to the $2.8 billion in financing?

The banks pulled the last 800 million at the last minute. Now they are being sued by FB.

FB still has a little over 100 mil to continue construction for a month or so. But after that, they can't continue.

[voice of reason]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/28/bofa-talking-restructuring-with-fontainebleau/

[CHAPINM1]

Thanks for clearing that up everyone. Regarding the banks who are responsiblefor this, I really hope Fontainebleau will set a prime example of these pricks and that they will be begging for mercy by the time everything is all said and done... At least the project is topped out and that most of the exterior work is completed at this point.

[mac78130]

So the swine flu has made it to my town... Hopefully everything will turn out alright. Wish me luck ;)

F'bleau... hopefully this will get completed.
flickr photo by Ju's pic's 86 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/juspics86/3485491558/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3485491558_58b6d48044_b.jpg

Nice... You can see the first girders for the pedestrian bridge. The other section was put in place this past Monday.
flickr photo by wsteinhauer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wsteinhauer/3485447268/in/photostream/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/3485447268_3778cff415_b.jpg

Closeup of Cosmopolitan's podium, where the "beach" is supposed to be.
flickr photo by wsteinhauer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wsteinhauer/3485451070/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3485451070_33b32cbeee_b.jpg

[mac78130]

"banks could cite ‘act of God’ as defense for refusing funds"

Article includes good pics
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/29/sued-fontainebleau-banks-could-cite-act-god-defens/

[ScottG]

interesting thing about the cosmo harmon pedestrian bridge - its about twice as high up as all the other bridges....

also on the news this morning - they mentioned that wynn might be in talks/ interested in buying back bellagio...and or even CIRCUS CIRCUS?!

i dont think that would be an addition to the wynn signature collection. Ha!

[heyyoucharlie]

and or even CIRCUS CIRCUS?!

i dont think that would be an addition to the wynn signature collection. Ha!

Cash cow... That's all the CC is. And a good one at that... ;)

[CHAPINM1]

mac78130, Fontainebleau WILL GET COMPLETED!!! It's just a matter of when. Hopefully construction will not be slowed too much. Thank God it is topped out!!!

[ColoPrecaster]

I’ll be flying to LV in the morning and be happily taking pictures for the next four days. We are staying at PH with a strip view. I hope to get a great vantage point for some citycenter shots for all of us. Viva Las Vegas BABY!

[mdiederi]

MGM MIRAGE, Dubai World and CityCenter's Lenders Reach Agreement for Completion of CityCenter
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=101502&p=IROL-NewsText&t=Regular&id=1282241&

Circus Circus is being put up for collateral, so that's not for sale anymore.

[justdefended]

MGM MIRAGE, Dubai World and CityCenter's Lenders Reach Agreement for Completion of CityCenter
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=101502&p=IROL-NewsText&t=Regular&id=1282241&

Circus Circus is being put up for collateral, so that's not for sale anymore.

Finally, the news that everyone wanted to hear. It's great to know that the Vegas economy will not have to sustain mass impact due to any closure of the project. 12,000 construction jobs continuing plus another 12,000 jobs upon opening wil be a strong start towards a turnaround for the city.

Now MGM, get back to work on saving the company itself :)

[Top Of The Park]

I can hardly wait till Fall to go there......its been 5 years and so much construction ago

[djhannu]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3485082828_c314939e01_b.jpg

Shot of CityCenter.

[JDRCRASH]

Nice shots everyone. Good thing it's getting completed. It was my favorite Las Vegas development from this boom.

[Krases]

I am glad CityCenter is getting finished, but the news about Fontainblue really annoys me.

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentID=177996

Not sure if this is a great source, but is FB really only 70% done? Huh.

[mac78130]

flickr photo by Reigh Sierra (http://www.flickr.com/photos/reighsierra/3480432990/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3480432990_a4f0b595ff_b.jpg

[jazfingr]

I am glad CityCenter is getting finished, but the news about Fontainblue really annoys me.

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentID=177996

Not sure if this is a great source, but is FB really only 70% done? Huh.

They are nor referring to the height of the tower, the remaining 30% is interior and podium work.

[mac78130]

Contractors layoff workers at Fontainebleau

http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/44062552.html

[mac78130]

Opening 2010.. well at least they updated the photo (a very recent pic. notice the pedestrian bridge.)
www.cosmolv.com
http://www.cosmolv.com/images/splash.jpg

[mac78130]

The Crystals metal facade is starting to look nice, will look even better as it progresses.
flickr photo by loudguitars (http://www.flickr.com/photos/loudguitars/3490405940/in/set-72157617443892447/) (better in original view)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3490405940_7fc0d7e3fa_b.jpg

[justdefended]

The Crystals metal facade is starting to look nice, will look even better as it progresses.
flickr photo by loudguitars (http://www.flickr.com/photos/loudguitars/3490405940/in/set-72157617443892447/) (better in original view)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3490405940_7fc0d7e3fa_b.jpg

Wow, that brushed metal color will look very cool across all the buildings. I'm betting it's not fun to attach it one slice at a time.

[mac78130]

From Vdara website
http://www.vdara.com/about/construction.aspx

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/1.jpg

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/2.jpg

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/3.jpg

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/4.jpg

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/5.jpg

[vwwolfe]

Danny Gans died this morning at the age of 52.

Sad news indeed.

[Krases]

From Vdara website

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/3.jpg

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/4.jpg



What is that pool for?

I it just a regular pool or will it be some sort of water feature?

[mac78130]

What is that pool for?

I it just a regular pool or will it be some sort of water feature?

Just a regular pool for the Vdara residents and hotel guest.

http://www.vdara.com/images/meetings/pools_cabanas.jpg
http://www.vdara.com/meetings/pool-cabanas.aspx

[ondarox]

[QUOTE=mac78130;4227074]From Vdara website
http://www.vdara.com/about/construction.aspx

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/1.jpg
QUOTE]

Interesting photo- which brings up a good question of what the space between Vdara and Bellagio will be used for... We shall find out very soon!

[in regards to the OT post on Danny Gans...]
That is a sad thing to hear about... Danny was a great performer. Is there a Mirage performer's curse going around?

[mac78130]

Vdara will be open in 5 months!! Wow, can't wait for this project to be complete..

[justdefended]

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/1.jpg

Vdara looks fantastic, totally sophisticated and unconventional at the same time.

It looks like the pedestrian bridge will run directly underneath the tram station.

From the picture, not sure how people get to the tram station.

Looks like the options are to take an elevator (is there one?) between the Vdara pedestrian bridge and the station or go up or down three flights of stairs, unless there are escalators I can't see.

[Snotick]

The Crystals metal facade is starting to look nice, will look even better as it progresses.
flickr photo by loudguitars (http://www.flickr.com/photos/loudguitars/3490405940/in/set-72157617443892447/) (better in original view)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3490405940_7fc0d7e3fa_b.jpg

I hope they researched the angles of the crystals in relation to the sun. I could see these things shooting a blinding death ray of sunlight down the strip on unsuspecting drivers.

[StatenIslander237]

http://www.vdara.com/images/about/construction/0409/5.jpg

I love the look of that corridor....this should really be an amazing space when everything is finished.

[Krases]

I love the look of that corridor....this should really be an amazing space when everything is finished.

It really is amazing. The strip will finally get some depth to it.

Too bad Station Casino will probably never be able to go ahead with Viva. It would have been on a huge plot of land and the project could have rivaled City Center in size, but station simply does not have that kind of money. Not even in the ballpark.

The land is still a nice assemblage. It could always get sold as one giant chunk.

Does anyone know if Harmon has a bridge over the railroad yet?

[mac78130]

More about the canoes at CityCenter

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2009/may/03/citycenters-crown-jewel/
http://media.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2009/04/23/scaled.001_RUBINS_t651.jpg?f88c8649bbadbb805ebb7b1c2020cc5b10765421

[heyyoucharlie]

Does anyone know if Harmon has a bridge over the railroad yet?

Not yet... Hopefully with some of the $80 something million the state just got for road construction/infrastructure they can finally get started.

[justdefended]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/may/03/citycenters-art-collection-was-never-doubt-even-wh/

A nice overview of the entire art collection at CityCenter.


Typewriter Eraser, Scale X is in L.A. waiting to be transported to Nevada

The 36,000-pound Henry Moore sculpture will be in a landscaped area in July

Damascus Gate Variation I in the Vdara lobby will likely be installed last

Richard Long’s 80-foot-tall, 50-foot-wide mud drawings will be at Veer Towers

Maya Lin’s 133-foot interpretation of the Colorado River will be at Aria

And, a single yellow rose by German artist Isa Genzken will jut 24 feet from the ground near the porte cochere for the Harmon

[Krases]

Wow. I may just visit it for the art.

Its an interesting contrast between the colorful boats and the cold metal and concrete buildings.

[mac78130]

VegasRex spots the canoes.
http://www.vegasrex.com/2009/05/05/canoes-on-the-strip/
http://www.vegasrex.com/newsimages/cc-canoes1.jpg

[mac78130]

flickr photo by Luke Hay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hayluke/3505290166/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3324/3505290166_033e074b73_b.jpg

[Krases]

Circus Circus is built on such an awkward lot. It has the timeshare and condo towers in front of it that are owned by someone else, meaning it can't be a normal stripfront property without those buildings obscuring it/messing up the theme.

If it does get sold someday, whoever buys it will need to pull some architectural magic to make the other buildings vanish.

Or they could just blow them up. That is always a possibility.

[CHAPINM1]

Circus Circus is built on such an awkward lot. It has the timeshare and condo towers in front of it that are owned by someone else, meaning it can't be a normal stripfront property without those buildings obscuring it/messing up the theme.

If it does get sold someday, whoever buys it will need to pull some architectural magic to make the other buildings vanish.

Or they could just blow them up. That is always a possibility.

Blow up which buildings? Sky and Hilton?

[Krases]

Blow up which buildings? Sky and Hilton?

Yes. Blow zem up!

Actually I should say "demolish" because saying that I want to see two large buildings "blown up" probably just put me on an FBI watch list.

Seriously though, it is a very awkward plot if you actually look at it. The section on the North Eastern border is not part of the property, but is owned by MGM and could be combined with it. If you think about what it could be like if it was one giant single block of land, it could potentially contain a second City Center...actually it could hold a lot more. If they purchased the land on the other side of the track, but before the I-15 and built over top of the railroad line, they could shove a freaking six flags back there.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3621/awkwardplot.png (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=awkwardplot.png)

[mdiederi]

MGM Mirage owns all of that vacant Strip-front land between Circus Circus and Sky. Plenty of room to make a bigger Strip resort presence ... that is, as long as they blow up Circus Circus and replace it with something that complements Sky. :haha:

MGM Mirage doesn't own that square thing to the right of the RV park inside the red line on that satellite shot, that's the new parking garage for the Hilton thing. It was under construction in that shot.

[mac78130]

I never heard there were plans/rumors to close the Barney's at Palazzo. I bet they were planning to make money with the St. Regis Condos next door.

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2009/may/06/barneys-new-york-official-denies-report-closing-pa/

[CHAPINM1]

I love Sky, plus it's location is good, kinda reminds me of the Harmon's position. I say keep sky where it is and someday rebuild Circus Circus or a City Center 2 behind it with buildings that are taller than Sky. Although, Hilton Grand Vacations is downright atrocious.

Also, great shot of Fontainebleau as usual! Sky reflecting from Fontainebleau however is astounding!

[mac78130]

This section of the pedestrian bridge looks very cluttered.

flickr photo by Arnaud Le Cantu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17980308@N05/3507613289/)
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[Krases]

MGM Mirage owns all of that vacant Strip-front land between Circus Circus and Sky. Plenty of room to make a bigger Strip resort presence ... that is, as long as they blow up Circus Circus and replace it with something that complements Sky. :haha:

MGM Mirage doesn't own that square thing to the right of the RV park inside the red line on that satellite shot, that's the new parking garage for the Hilton thing. It was under construction in that shot.


I love Sky, plus it's location is good, kinda reminds me of the Harmon's position. I say keep sky where it is and someday rebuild Circus Circus or a City Center 2 behind it with buildings that are taller than Sky. Although, Hilton Grand Vacations is downright atrocious.



I did not refer to anything, I just eye balled it based on guesses. Here is a fixed version.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9071/awkward2.th.png (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=awkward2.png)

They really could build a second City Center on a land plot that big. They could always re-clad Sky to make a color match to some giant new project. I agree also that the grand vacations are ugly, but Sky is nice looking.

You know its funny. The boardwalk casino (were City Center is today) had a giant clown on it. I just picture Circus Circus getting the axe some day. It is starting to get too old by Vegas standards.

When the economy recovers, I would expect there to be a period of paying back debts and rebuilding cash reserves. Then suddenly if the economy is stable for a while, there will be a gigantic building boom. This new boom will be smaller than the previous boom when it comes to new hotels, but will include a major diversification of Vegas's economy. Expect Union Park to be rapidly built up. The strip will also likely continue building north with the area around FB being filled out while Stratosphere possibly receives some company north of Sahara.

I predict something of a "Charleston push" around 2020-2030 with the strip inching towards downtown.

Sound reasonable?

[heyyoucharlie]

I agree with moving north toward Charleston, but I don't about Circus Circus. Vegas needs places like this. If the whole Strip becomes all City Center's/Wynn's/Bellagio's and so on, then a huge part of the draw to Vegas could be lost. Vegas need it's glitz as much as it needs its shady.

[CharoogAjram]

I agree with moving north toward Charleston, but I don't about Circus Circus. Vegas needs places like this. If the whole Strip becomes all City Center's/Wynn's/Bellagio's and so on, then a huge part of the draw to Vegas could be lost. Vegas need it's glitz as much as it needs its shady.

I agree! As much as I love The Palazzo, CityCenter, and all these new lavishing projects, Vegas would just not be Vegas without places like The Riviera, Circus Circus, The Shara, etc..

I don't know how many years those places have left before they got torn down, but I would still love to see them there 50 years from now.

[Krases]

I agree with moving north toward Charleston, but I don't about Circus Circus. Vegas needs places like this. If the whole Strip becomes all City Center's/Wynn's/Bellagio's and so on, then a huge part of the draw to Vegas could be lost. Vegas need it's glitz as much as it needs its shady.

I agree! As much as I love The Palazzo, CityCenter, and all these new lavishing projects, Vegas would just not be Vegas without places like The Riviera, Circus Circus, The Shara, etc..

I don't know how many years those places have left before they got torn down, but I would still love to see them there 50 years from now.

I wasn't saying it was really a good thing about losing CC. There do need to be lower class casino's, but I was just saying it more as a matter of fact based on current trends. The old casino's gradually get replaced be new ones. People used to wear ties and get dressed up to these places in the 50's, then at around the 70's people went casual. Nowadays I think we are seeing a throwback to the 50's with places becoming more middle-upper class.

I think there will always be a market for places like Circus Circus and similar casino's. I just don't think that market will be on the strip.

[tumbleweed]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/may/06/fontainebleau-contractor-no-stranger-overcoming-ad/

Interesting article on the Fontainebleau glazing contractor... Always wondered why the glass was so far behind the concrete going up; sounds like the installer was not performing and they switched 1/3 the way up the tower.

[mac78130]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/may/06/fontainebleau-contractor-no-stranger-overcoming-ad/

Interesting article on the Fontainebleau glazing contractor... Always wondered why the glass was so far behind the concrete going up; sounds like the installer was not performing and they switched 1/3 the way up the tower.

The views look incredible, especially the one from the crown. :tup:

[CHAPINM1]

The views look incredible, especially the one from the crown. :tup:

Agreed!!! It was amazing getting a much awaited inside look from this thing!

[mac78130]

The Harmon glass panels that were removed when they were doing "repairs" have been put back in place. Maybe a sign that construction is about to resume.

flickr photo by Las Vegas Love (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alex-martinez/3512546504/)r
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[DMaldon762]

I just got an e-mail from Monte Carlo about HOTEL32. It looks like MGM used the insurance money from the fire to remodel the top floor to be some type of upscale rooms. I also heard that the 31st floor has been vacated to make sure the HOTEL32 guests are not disturbed by noise. Anybody else hear about this?

[ondarox]

I just got an e-mail from Monte Carlo about HOTEL32. It looks like MGM used the insurance money from the fire to remodel the top floor to be some type of upscale rooms. I also heard that the 31st floor has been vacated to make sure the HOTEL32 guests are not disturbed by noise. Anybody else hear about this?

I just got the email too- this project went under the radar I guess. The renderings look great- I'm glad to see that MGM Mirage Design Group are adding more details to their rooms- recent remodels have been a bit too sparse.

Can't wait to see hwo this project turns out. And vacating the 31st floor? Interesting strategy.

[Miku Araman]

Here are some picture of the Hotel32 rooms:

Hotel32 at Monte Carlo in Las Vegas (http://www.lasvegasfocus.com/news/2009/05/hotel32-at-monte-carlo-las-vegas/)