[galaca]

^I've always wondered about that, too. For instance, if a person a floor two lit a fire in their fireplace how is the smoke vented if, on floor three, the fireplace flu (sp) is closed? And how does the smoke not flood into the higher level apartments? I always imagined there were "walls" within the chimney that prevented this.

[SteveD]

The biggest unit cost increases for taller structures are typically associated with mechanical conveyances (elevators, and more specifically, the need for more of them, and the resulting decrease in available per floor rentable or leasable space on lower floors) and stouter structural components on lower floors which also decreases rentable or leasable space. For example, a 20-story tower might have four elevators serving each floor. A 40-story tower might need 6, with three low rise and three high rise. A 60-story tower might have 9, with three low, three mid, and three high. Fire suppression unit costs don't increase that much. A taller structure requires a more powerful fire pump, or perhaps multiple fire pumps, but the floor by floor fire suppression systems and appliances would be the same for a mid rise or a high rise structure.

[structure]

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[atl2phx]

^^^wow. the more i see of 3344, the more it's obvious it will stand as an atlanta/buckhead icon. it's gonna be awesome.

[sabino86]

:previous: What are those triangles, balconies?

[structure]

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[jfsatlbldr]

Photo of the north radius point that grows out each floor, currently at level 26...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/rstregooski/030907_1306.jpg

Here's another view of those 'appendages' taken 3 weeks ago. That will be quite a sensation to be able to stand in one's office and see down on both sides at once.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/02-18-07018.jpg

[sabino86]

not balconies. This portion of the building down are offices. The point is simply part of the building architectural footprint, where curtain wall will be installed around...

Sweet :tup:

[DSGB]

It's almost the same height as The Realm now.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/pimpsquad27/409107965_e68769aa09_b.jpg

[john3eblover]

where'd you take that picture from? it's a great angle

[SteveD]

:previous: Terminus is looking pretty darn sweet in that photo!

[CHAPINM1]

Terminus stands out more than any other in that photo! It looks perfect, better than any rendering. Almost as if that picture could be a rendering itself. It's so sharp and reflective, if you think that's a big impact just wait until 3344 joins the Buckhead skyline!

[smArTaLlone]

The south view on the Soveriegn website has to be one of the best I've ever seen of Atlanta.

[Atlriser]

I've been a big fan of Terminus since the beginning and thought the building was beautiful up close. Several on here have commented about it being short and squat for it's size which I disagreed.

I'll have to say though that for the first time in several months I drove up Peachtree from Downtown just to see all the construction. I usually avoid PTree from downtown like the plague because of traffic and all and so many other routes you can take to avoid the back ups. Usually I see Terminus from Piedmont. Coming up PTree.....Terminus was ugly I thought and I felt let down after admiring the building so much when coming up Piedmont. I just kept looking and thinking wow how it was really crapping looking from that angle. I'm sorry to say but it's kinda let me down on the whole building now. I can't wait to see the lighting at night but during the day it's just a big let down if you travel north on PTree from the village area.

Anyway back to 3344.....I can't wait to see it start towering over Terminus as it rises. It's beginning to make an impact from I-85 and I know before long it will be visible when you are going north on Boulevard from I-20. 3344 might be the best building built since the early 90s here even topping 1180 Peachtree I think now.

[GThomas]

I share opposite feelings. At first, I thought Terminus would be hideous. Now, I'm rather fond of it... The way its edges fit together is sleek/cool; will be interesting to see once it's lit up, though, yes.

So, it's obvious that 3344 is going up faster than the Mansion. Is this because the first floors of 3344 are not residential? Do residential buildings require more time by virtue of the number of bathrooms/units? How far is 3344 from hitting the residential portion?

[scania]

I've been a big fan of Terminus since the beginning and thought the building was beautiful up close. Several on here have commented about it being short and squat for it's size which I disagreed.

I'll have to say though that for the first time in several months I drove up Peachtree from Downtown just to see all the construction. I usually avoid PTree from downtown like the plague because of traffic and all and so many other routes you can take to avoid the back ups. Usually I see Terminus from Piedmont. Coming up PTree.....Terminus was ugly I thought and I felt let down after admiring the building so much when coming up Piedmont. I just kept looking and thinking wow how it was really crapping looking from that angle. I'm sorry to say but it's kinda let me down on the whole building now. I can't wait to see the lighting at night but during the day it's just a big let down if you travel north on PTree from the village area.

Anyway back to 3344.....I can't wait to see it start towering over Terminus as it rises. It's beginning to make an impact from I-85 and I know before long it will be visible when you are going north on Boulevard from I-20. 3344 might be the best building built since the early 90s here even topping 1180 Peachtree I think now.

I disagree. I didn't care for Terminus at first, but now drivng up Piedmont and when driving up Peachtree from the village it looks soooo cool!!! And its taller than the renderings made it look. But I do agree that 3344 is the best looking tower that's been built since the eighties and nineties. Also, as far as daytime skyscrapers, 3344 might be the most memorable to any visitor to Atlanta and depending on how its lit at night, it will compete with 1180, BoA, and Terminus for the most memorable building at night of Atlanta's skyline.

[shanthemanatl]

where'd you take that picture from? it's a great angle

I was getting my emissions inspection done at a little place on Cheshire Bridge Rd. the other day and saw almost exactly the same view as in that photo. Terminus really glistened and sparkled in the early-morning sun---it was really beautiful.

[James2390]

Terminus is a MONSTER!

[Atlriser]

In the pic Terminus looks good, it's just coming up PTree it doesn't to me.

[structure]

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[SteveD]

:previous: damn..that puppy is rising FAST! Nice job on several threads, Structure! Keep those photos coming...we all love 'em!

[galaca]

It's looking good!

[jfsatlbldr]

A few shots from 3-17-07;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/03-17-07089.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/03-17-07103a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/03-17-07109a.jpg

[Urban Sky]

startin to gain some speed now it seems....lol

[SteveD]

Wow...thanks, Joe. This building just keeps getting better and better.

[RobMidtowner]

How long until they start the residential portion?

[CHAPINM1]

Any updates? If so will it take a long time to work on the setback which is at the 28th floor if not what floor are they at? Thanks in advance... ;)

[Ersh]

Don't know how long the residential portion will go up. It seems they topped out the lower portion and are prepping for the residential part. It's been the same height for about a week and a half now.

[CHAPINM1]

It will be a while before construction continues to move upward. Look at Trump Tower Chicago for instance, for each setback they have to reallign a number of things and readjust for a new layout on the continuing floors. It will probably be at least a few weeks before construction continues to move upward once again.

[JoLeMaMa]

Is there a webcam for this project? I can't find one if there is. This project seems to be taking forever to be constructed.

[MarketsWork]

Is there a webcam for this project? I can't find one if there is. This project seems to be taking forever to be constructed.

You're kidding, right? I don't know what your expectations of building construction are, but I have been surprised by Sovereign's quick progress so far. But I do share your frustration that there is no webcam for this project...

[gttx]

Heh...we had this discussion once already - construction takes a long time. Skyscrapers aren't just big collectables you can pop in a city whenever you want. Sometimes it's painful, but you just have to accept it.

[oldpainless]

You mean the real world isn't like SimCity? That totally sux.

Stupid REALITY. You could take some tips from virtual REALITY and get with the program.

[Ethprue]

I have a friend in the know...and I asked about the slow down. He stated they're concentrating on the parking garage now and should be moving upward in about a month.

[jfsatlbldr]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/4-21p-07075.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/4-21-07061.jpg

[Texas Tuff]

Thanks for the photos. If Sovereign ends up being anything close to the renderings I have seen, I have a feeling that this building is going to be my favorite in Atlanta (with 1180 Peachtree being a close second).

[StatenIslander237]

this is going up much faster than i realized, im pumped for a shock in atlanta now.

[Ersh]

Looking at 3344 today, it looks like they've begun work on the first residential floor. I thought it wasn't supposed to begin a few weeks, but it looks like it's beginning to rise again! :cheers:

[atl2phx]

Thanks for the photos. If Sovereign ends up being anything close to the renderings I have seen, I have a feeling that this building is going to be my favorite in Atlanta (with 1180 Peachtree being a close second).

i agree. if the final product looks as good as what they've completed so far, this will be one of the hottest buildings in buckhead, atlanta and the US. thats a far cry from my original assessment when i thought this was a dubai wanna be. im glad i was wrong!

:banana:

[oldpainless]

i agree. if the final product looks as good as what they've completed so far, this will be one of the hottest buildings in buckhead, atlanta and the US. thats a far cry from my original assessment when i thought this was a dubai wanna be. im glad i was wrong!
:banana:
When you say "a dubai wanna be", do you mean that it would somehow look kind of "plasticy", gaudy, or maybe tall for tall's sake?

[dirtybird]

For some reason, I really like the giant Todd Murphy sign for Sovereign. Driving by, the area felt like Park Avenue with the wide boulevard and high rises...except for no one walking around!

[ATLksuGUY]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4438/p1011122earlyoj5.jpg


This Street is gonna look awesome in like 5-10 years, hell it looks awesome now

[ATLBlaxican]

So the top of the current tower crane for the Mansion will be close to its final height right??? That truely will be a nice addition!

[alleystreetindustry]

atlanta gets the best skyscrapers. i don't think you will ever see a skyline with such diversity among its buildings anywhere else. this beauty just adds to the happiness i recieve while watching atlanta at night.

[ATLssMania]

How many more floors before they start the residential?

[ATLksuGUY]

How many more floors before they start the residential?

Last count was like 25 floors, i think there at the traansition, correct me if im wrong.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7313/p1011155earlyvk8.jpg

[L.ARCH]

So the top of the current tower crane for the Mansion will be close to its final height right??? That truely will be a nice addition!

For some reason I think it's probably gonna be jacked up one more time...

[SLC Projects]

www.3344peachtree.com

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/06/64/49/image_1549646.jpg


Wow, that is one kick ass looking tower. :slob:
Wish I had one of those in my city.

[atl2phx]

When you say "a dubai wanna be", do you mean that it would somehow look kind of "plasticy", gaudy, or maybe tall for tall's sake?

from the get go, i knew the form factor, or shape and height of the building was awesome, however, i thought the first renderings never really gave a good idea of what the skin and finish would look like.....silver/clear/geen glass with steel or aluminum finishes or a grey-dull non reflective glass trimmed in concrete or god forbid, stucco. im estatic that what i'm seeing so far looks awesome. i should have known....it is prime buckhead which seems to be taking off.

this building rocks, i can't wait to see it occupied. :worship:

the pic of the todd murphy banner hanging over the front entrance definitely evoke images and to some degree the spirit of nyc, lax and chicago.

[ATLssMania]

I think they have 2 more floors to add and then we will see the residential side rising!

[Atlriser]

I'd say both tower cranes are only 2/3's up. Add another 1/3 and you'll get the final height I feel.

[oldpainless]

Last count was like 25 floors, i think there at the traansition, correct me if im wrong.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7313/p1011155earlyvk8.jpg
Man, what a good picture. If that picture was taken only 2 years ago it would have been mostly blue sky.

[scania]

So the top of the current tower crane for the Mansion will be close to its final height right??? That truely will be a nice addition!

No, that crane will be jacked up some more. I think the top of that crane is about 3/4 the final height.

[whiplash3825]

I'm about to give up ever seeing the webcam up and running... I wonder if they just couldn't find a proper building to place it on which was far enough back and at the right angle to get it all.

[Mopacs]

What a great tower and design. You have a skyline in Buckhead that 90% of all cities would envy. The above pic shows a dramatic change in just the past year, since my visit to Atlanta. Can't wait to watch this guy rise.

[ATLksuGUY]

This soon to be tallest thing in buckhead will add a nice point to the growing Buckhead skyline, along with mansion. This building might look cool with a spire... hmmm...


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z10/ddawguga/P1011287.jpg

[Stratosphere 2020]

:previous:
That is the best panaroma of Buckhead I have seen. Very nice.

[ATLksuGUY]

:previous:
That is the best panaroma of Buckhead I have seen. Very nice.

Check these out
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2810915#post2810915

[Ethprue]

Construction on the residential portion begins this week. We should see 1 floor per every 4 business days. They are on a very tight schedule so it should rise pretty fast.:tup:

[jfsatlbldr]

Recent update shot and views from the tower.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/5-18-07007_edited-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/03-22-07062_edited-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/5-19-07024_edited-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/5-19-07035_edited-1.jpg

[daharris80]

Great shots, amazing views. Imagine the views from the units that will be 200 feet higher.

I wish more intersection were built like the 400/Buckhead loop exit. It makes much more since to have only 1 light at a crossing instead of two were traffic gets stuck between the two lights.

[john3eblover]

holy crap the view from Realm is amazing...thanks for the shots Joe!

[ajdelo]

This soon to be tallest thing in buckhead will add a nice point to the growing Buckhead skyline, along with mansion. This building might look cool with a spire... hmmm...


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z10/ddawguga/P1011287.jpg

Absolutely fascinating shot with Stone Mountain in the background. I think I'll head up the mountain this weekend if the weather is nice and try to get some pics. A buddy of mine has a nice camera with a zoom lens, maybe I can con him into coming over to take some snapshots.

[atl2phx]

what a bitchin buidling! :worship:

[Andrea]

Joe, I've borrowed one of your photos for a sec just to ask this question.

Does anyone know what these structures are for that I've indicated with the arrows? It seems like they are mighty stout just to hold up the ramps. Even if that was the original purpose, I wonder if they couldn't also be used for something else. If nothing else it could be landscaped into an attractive plaza.

http://andreabennett.com/public/various/400intersection.jpg

[SteveD]

:previous: Andrea..I don't know, but here's my guess:

I'd speculate that they are intended to provide a perpendicular visual reference for drivers entering the areas under the ramps to make passages through these areas safer. Entering the under-ramp areas with the high-radius curves of the ramps above might prove visually jarring or confusing. I believe I can safely say they aren't there for structural purposes.

[RobMidtowner]

Joe, I've borrowed one of your photos for a sec just to ask this question.

Does anyone know what these structures are for that I've indicated with the arrows? It seems like they are mighty stout just to hold up the ramps. Even if that was the original purpose, I wonder if they couldn't also be used for something else. If nothing else it could be landscaped into an attractive plaza.

http://andreabennett.com/public/various/400intersection.jpg

I'm pretty sure these beams were put in place because they anticipated widening the bridge soon and it's very difficult to widen a SPUI unless you already have an existing structure in place.

[SteveD]

:previous: I don't know Rob...that doesn't look likely to me...they are far too wide in the north-south orientation for a bridge widening (why would they have all that excess unneccesary material?), they aren't in alignment with each other on northbound and southbound lanes, there are newer substantial structures in the way of bridge widening, and the existing multi-lane road appears sufficient for decades to come. I thought about that, but I discounted it. Structural beams for bridge widening would not look like that, either. It's interesting to speculate about though, it would be nice to have a definitive answer.

[Andrea]

Steve and Rob, thanks so much guys. I have always wondered about those things because it seems like an awful lot of material if they didn't have something in mind.

[foxmccleod]

I could be entirely wrong, but I have always wondered about these beams. If you notice while you drive beneath them they only exist where the road cantilevers out. This same condition occurs downtown where Spring curves around into Centennial Olympic Park Drive. There again they exist only where the road cantilevers.

It would seem that they merely hold the roadbed. It is more economical to place small beams that connect between two points than to create beams large enough to hold the cantilevered road while cantilevering themselves. In fact, this beam condition occurs throughout metro Atlanta, especially north on 85 where roads act as bridges crossing at an angle instead of perpendicular.

[Trae]

Steve and Rob, thanks so much guys. I have always wondered about those things because it seems like an awful lot of material if they didn't have something in mind.

I have wondered what they were, too, but I have seen them in many cities.

[Andrea]

It could also be the tether point for a future super-secret carbon nanotube space elevator.

[gttx]

I would guess that the beams are there to support that curved roadbed. They couldn't simply put a column underneath, since they need a huge clear span over the road.

[oldpainless]

I would guess that the beams are there to support that curved roadbed. They couldn't simply put a column underneath, since they need a huge clear span over the road.
Yeah I think you're right. They're used to transfer the loads over to the median.

[ThrashATL]

It could also be the tether point for a future super-secret carbon nanotube space elevator.

Unless Atlanta is covered with a couple miles of water that won't happen!

[Andrea]

Unless Atlanta is covered with a couple miles of water that won't happen!

You have to admit it would be cool if that's what it is.

[niff]

Water? I'm not sure what water has to do with a space elevator, but I think the bigger problem would be Atlanta's latitude. We'd need to be near or at the equator so that the elevator's center of gravity is in geosynchronous orbit.

[ATLksuGUY]

Although im a big fan of the space elevator concept, view from over 400 with new setback.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/ddawguga2/P1011555.jpg

[niff]

That is a great view, especially with 3344 :)

[ThrashATL]

Water? I'm not sure what water has to do with a space elevator, but I think the bigger problem would be Atlanta's latitude. We'd need to be near or at the equator so that the elevator's center of gravity is in geosynchronous orbit.

The anchor to the space elevator would be out at sea for some reason, according to LiftPort Group, the company actually working on a space elevator. Their projected first lift date is October 27, 2031.

http://www.liftport.com/

[SteveD]

:previous: wow...freaky and interesting stuff!

[john3eblover]

The anchor to the space elevator would be out at sea for some reason, according to LiftPort Group, the company actually working on a space elevator. Their projected first lift date is October 27, 2031.

http://www.liftport.com/

wow!

[BVC]

So when do they start construction on the space elevator for 3344 Peachtree...or is that completely unrelated?:cool:

[ThrashATL]

Water? I'm not sure what water has to do with a space elevator, but I think the bigger problem would be Atlanta's latitude. We'd need to be near or at the equator so that the elevator's center of gravity is in geosynchronous orbit.

I found out why it would be tethered in the ocean.... in case the tether and anything riding up it wanted to come down. Put that over land and something falling from 62,000 miles up would probably make a helluva dent.

[dante2308]

Space elevators also have to be situated on the equator so that the station above can maintain orbit above a single point.

[ThrashATL]

Back to the subject... when is 3344 gonna get it's organic sexy shape? Right now it looks pretty plain and boring.

[sabino86]

At least one dead...

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=98216

[mayhem]

Very sad news. RIP and best of luck to the other worker in the Grady.

[jfsatlbldr]

A recent night shot;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/5-25-07085a.jpg

[SteveD]

Joe, I know I'm in for a treat whenever I see one of your posts. First rate!

[sabino86]

:previous: I concur.

[mayhem]

Gorgeous. I can't wait to see the residential portion take shape.

[COLLIER Loves Cranes]

This one or the Mansion?


Who knows :shrug: but I really enjoy watching

[Texas Tuff]

Personally I think 3344 has a better (more interesting) design, however, it would be hard to top the luxury the Mansion will provide (check out the new updated Mansion website if you haven't already and you'll see what I mean).

[DoteDote]

Rear angle from the Hyatt parking deck:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6830/sovreign06230701sle8.jpg
Shot with Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+EOS+DIGITAL+REBEL&make=Canon) at 2007-06-23

[atl2phx]

WOW! thanks for the update DOTE, it's good to see the residential portion rising so quickly - i haven't seen any updates since the accident several weeks back.

[Buck]

This building is so amazing!

Before it was built, the renderings had convinced me that the glass treatment was going to be stunning. As it first started going up, the glass looked like it wasn't anything special. However, now that there is several floors of it, I'm once again in awe. It's beautiful!

[JoLeMaMa]

I'm looking forward to seeing this upon completion. It's going to be a fantastic addition to Atlanta's fast growing skyline. Props to Dote for the updates!

[ATLksuGUY]

I'm looking forward to seeing this upon completion. It's going to be a fantastic addition to Atlanta's fast growing skyline. Props to Dote for the updates!

Yea, when the skin gets done its gonna be the best looking in Buckhead, if not Atlanta as a whole. The curtain wall is classy and simple, just the way I think a building in Buckhead should look, and what I hope the future of ATL will look like. We have a trend right now for blue and greeen glass, it seems to look really good in an area totally surrounded by trees. I love it.

[sabino86]

From N. Druid Hills Rd, this building will make one hell of an impact (if it hasn't already)