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Rizzo
Jan 28, 2012, 9:48 PM
I heard rumors of Laikon being demolished in Greektown. What is this nonesense? In the past few years there's been a few buildings demoed in Greektown that were NEVER replaced with anything.

Onn
Jan 30, 2012, 4:28 PM
Gilbert buys former Federal Reserve Building

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120130&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=201300376&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Gilbert-buys-former-Federal-Reserve-Building

Louis Aguilar
The Detroit News
January 30, 2012

Detroit — Quicken Loans Inc. founder Dan Gilbert said Monday that he has bought the vacant former Federal Reserve Building in downtown Detroit — a structure he hopes to fill with a large, single tenant.

A price wasn't disclosed.

Gilbert's revelation came during a tour of what was described as "the crown jewel" of the downtown collection of Quicken Loans founder's building purchases, the $12 million renovation of the Madison Theatre in Grand Circus Park.

The five-story historic building, empty for years, has undergone a vibrant, high-tech renovation that now serves as an incubator for venture capital firms, media companies and start ups.

The open, loft-like spaces are full of Detroit photos, big-screen televisions and stunning downtown views.

"We want this to be the launch pad for new companies," said Josh Linkner, CEO and Managing Partner of Detroit Venture Partners.

The firm occupies one and a half floors of the building now dubbed the M@dison.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120130/BIZ/201300376/Gilbert-buys-former-Federal-Reserve-Building?odyssey=tab

Rizzo
Jan 30, 2012, 7:00 PM
Excellent news!

Michi
Jan 30, 2012, 7:28 PM
I heard rumors of Laikon being demolished in Greektown. What is this nonesense? In the past few years there's been a few buildings demoed in Greektown that were NEVER replaced with anything.You couldn't possibly even fit anything there if this is true. Yah, maybe a parking slot for one car. Where did you hear the rumor? If true, maybe Dan Gilbert should slow down his "two steps forward" so that Detroit's curse of "3 steps backward" will be delayed and eliminated. :sly: Grrr!

hudkina
Jan 30, 2012, 9:45 PM
If it is true I doubt it is for a parking lot.

Alan131210
Jan 31, 2012, 1:01 PM
put your hands up for Detroit i love the city .

Michi
Jan 31, 2012, 3:19 PM
I was just sitting here thinking...

About 10 years ago (roughly 2002), the Hudson's Block (underground garage) and Compuware World Headquarters were under construction, and along with Campus Martius Park were finished around 2004. It's been about 8 years that we've enjoyed their presence in downtown Detroit and, like I said, about 10 that the initial excitement of a major construction project began to take shape.

10 years seems like a long time for many major cities, but in Detroit, it doesn't seem like that transformation, mentioned above, has been around for that long. Sure, it's a permanent piece of our city and other components of the Campus Martius plan are in the works, but I wonder when the economic stars will once again align to allow for the repeat of 2002, when cranes were errected, shovels in the ground, dirt was moved and steel fused together?

Don't get me wrong, I understand the significance of all the things going on right now and the relavant construction projects going on around town, like the rehabs/renovations, new constructions, like the Auburn, and major public/private works projects like the greenways and riverfront.

We know we will be waiting around for "LRT/Streetcar" for another period of time now, but I wonder if that infrastructure improvement/investment is the "next big thing" to transform the overall face of central Detroit, much like the beginning phases of Campus Martius has?

My point is, again, after 10 years, it seems like we should be prepared and ready to move on to the next phases of what is planned (on the grand scale) in Detroit. We've done so well with "making the economy here", we tend not to wait for it to give us permission to build. That's been how things work here for many decades now. Heck, I equate the reuse of the Broderick & Witney Buildings to that of constructing 2 new towers in the CBD. Same for any existing, abandoned building.

Again, my thoughts here don't associate with the enormous efforts and ambitions led by so many brave and entrepreneurial Detroiters that daily impact this city for the better. Rather, I just question when the next big push, Campus Martius-style, will get us all worked up again? What, if anything, will the next 10 years bring? Fair question, I believe...especially for a place like Detroit. :)

subterranean
Jan 31, 2012, 3:35 PM
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fishrose
Jan 31, 2012, 3:47 PM
Construction has started on The Auburn apartments at Cass and Canfield. All that's up so far is some steel framework, but I was pleasantly surprised to see it. I wasn't expecting them to start work until the spring. I'll try to get some photos up later.

subterranean
Jan 31, 2012, 4:46 PM
Woohoo!

Rizzo
Jan 31, 2012, 5:22 PM
You couldn't possibly even fit anything there if this is true. Yah, maybe a parking slot for one car. Where did you hear the rumor? If true, maybe Dan Gilbert should slow down his "two steps forward" so that Detroit's curse of "3 steps backward" will be delayed and eliminated. :sly: Grrr!

Rumor is, it's to be a pedestrian walkway that would also provide a visual connection between parking behind Laikon and the casino. Again, just a rumor. I'm not entirely certain, A former Detroiter here in Chicago told me. If someone is in Greektown, they should ask the management of Laikon.

mind field
Jan 31, 2012, 5:56 PM
I was just sitting here thinking...

About 10 years ago (roughly 2002), the Hudson's Block (underground garage) and Compuware World Headquarters were under construction, and along with Campus Martius Park were finished around 2004. It's been about 8 years that we've enjoyed their presence in downtown Detroit and, like I said, about 10 that the initial excitement of a major construction project began to take shape.

10 years seems like a long time for many major cities, but in Detroit, it doesn't seem like that transformation, mentioned above, has been around for that long. Sure, it's a permanent piece of our city and other components of the Campus Martius plan are in the works, but I wonder when the economic stars will once again align to allow for the repeat of 2002, when cranes were errected, shovels in the ground, dirt was moved and steel fused together?

Don't get me wrong, I understand the significance of all the things going on right now and the relavant construction projects going on around town, like the rehabs/renovations, new constructions, like the Auburn, and major public/private works projects like the greenways and riverfront.

We know we will be waiting around for "LRT/Streetcar" for another period of time now, but I wonder if that infrastructure improvement/investment is the "next big thing" to transform the overall face of central Detroit, much like the beginning phases of Campus Martius has?

My point is, again, after 10 years, it seems like we should be prepared and ready to move on to the next phases of what is planned (on the grand scale) in Detroit. We've done so well with "making the economy here", we tend not to wait for it to give us permission to build. That's been how things work here for many decades now. Heck, I equate the reuse of the Broderick & Witney Buildings to that of constructing 2 new towers in the CBD. Same for any existing, abandoned building.

Again, my thoughts here don't associate with the enormous efforts and ambitions led by so many brave and entrepreneurial Detroiters that daily impact this city for the better. Rather, I just question when the next big push, Campus Martius-style, will get us all worked up again? What, if anything, will the next 10 years bring? Fair question, I believe...especially for a place like Detroit. :)

There is still so much empty space. Hopefully when it all is nearly full, with whoever, residents, tourists, or office workers, then we'll see new construction. It's encouraging to hear of new companies locating in the city but we need so much more of that to make a dent. Reading about the new lease deals, there is still a ton of activity in the suburbs.

DetroitSky
Jan 31, 2012, 9:51 PM
Some shots from around downtown today:

windows going in at the Broderick. I heard it was completely or almost completely leased today.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/urbanex12/DSCN0838.jpg

Don't know if this is for real or not (seems hard to believe) but apparently a deal is pending on the storefront at the Grinnell Bros building. The sign went up over the weekend.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/urbanex12/DSCN0837.jpg

I talked with some very excited Quicken Loans/Bedrock people going in and out of these two buildings they recently purchased. They said they had some businesses lined up for the buildings and that they also purchased the Wright-Kay Building (which i saw people working on in the alley) and the small one floor structure next door to the Broderick property.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/urbanex12/DSCN0836.jpg

It was recently announced that Bar Louie is renovating the structure at 30 Clifford Street for use as one of their bars.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/urbanex12/DSCN0727.jpg

Rizzo
Jan 31, 2012, 10:51 PM
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/urbanex12/DSCN0727.jpg

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This looks fantastic

EuphoricOctopus
Feb 1, 2012, 1:25 AM
I was just sitting here thinking...

About 10 years ago (roughly 2002), the Hudson's Block (underground garage) and Compuware World Headquarters were under construction, and along with Campus Martius Park were finished around 2004. It's been about 8 years that we've enjoyed their presence in downtown Detroit and, like I said, about 10 that the initial excitement of a major construction project began to take shape.

10 years seems like a long time for many major cities, but in Detroit, it doesn't seem like that transformation, mentioned above, has been around for that long. Sure, it's a permanent piece of our city and other components of the Campus Martius plan are in the works, but I wonder when the economic stars will once again align to allow for the repeat of 2002, when cranes were errected, shovels in the ground, dirt was moved and steel fused together?

Don't get me wrong, I understand the significance of all the things going on right now and the relavant construction projects going on around town, like the rehabs/renovations, new constructions, like the Auburn, and major public/private works projects like the greenways and riverfront.

We know we will be waiting around for "LRT/Streetcar" for another period of time now, but I wonder if that infrastructure improvement/investment is the "next big thing" to transform the overall face of central Detroit, much like the beginning phases of Campus Martius has?

My point is, again, after 10 years, it seems like we should be prepared and ready to move on to the next phases of what is planned (on the grand scale) in Detroit. We've done so well with "making the economy here", we tend not to wait for it to give us permission to build. That's been how things work here for many decades now. Heck, I equate the reuse of the Broderick & Witney Buildings to that of constructing 2 new towers in the CBD. Same for any existing, abandoned building.

Again, my thoughts here don't associate with the enormous efforts and ambitions led by so many brave and entrepreneurial Detroiters that daily impact this city for the better. Rather, I just question when the next big push, Campus Martius-style, will get us all worked up again? What, if anything, will the next 10 years bring? Fair question, I believe...especially for a place like Detroit. :)

I feel back then there was a lot of talk to make it seem like Detroit was busy with development, mostly from kwame. You either had deals that were already set in stone or pie-in-the-sky proposals that were never gonna happen.

Now, you actually have a CEO that is proactive in his approach by actually buying, renovating, and then finding business to fill these buildings. This is starting to spur other development and bring retail. There is actual substance this time with people who walk the walk before they talk the talk.

mind field
Feb 1, 2012, 4:54 AM
Some shots from around downtown today:

windows going in at the Broderick. I heard it was completely or almost completely leased today.


How accurate is this info? On their website it only lists around 40 units as being reserved. Although i have no doubt at all this building will become 100% leased.

hudkina
Feb 1, 2012, 6:33 AM
I think there has been a relatively steady stream of major development since the late 90's when GM moved downtown and the two stadiums were announced. Obviously there was a major lull during the height of the recession, but even then things have been happening at a relatively healthy pace. I would say since Comerica Park opened in 2000, there has been about two or three major construction, renovation, or infrastructure projects completed every year just in the downtown area. I think we have forgotten just what the downtown area looked like as recently as 1995 and how much has truly changed over the last decade.

The current major projects are Broderick and Cobo. Upcoming major projects will most likely be the West Riverfront, the Hudson Block, and the David Whitney Building. Further down the line I'm sure we'll hear something on the Book Tower and even the David Stott.

jodelli
Feb 1, 2012, 9:07 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This looks fantastic

Hey! It's the (fake) Shelter!

MrBlueSky
Feb 1, 2012, 3:16 PM
It was recently announced that Bar Louie is renovating the structure at 30 Clifford Street for use as one of their bars.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/urbanex12/DSCN0727.jpg

According to Curbed Detroit it will not be a Bar Louie, but rather a bar named Louie's, affiliated with the Louie's Ham and Corned Beef restaurant in Eastern Market.

http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2012/01/building-exploded-for-red-dawn-to-be-chain-eatery.php

subterranean
Feb 1, 2012, 5:30 PM
How accurate is this info? On their website it only lists around 40 units as being reserved. Although i have no doubt at all this building will become 100% leased.

I think that they must mean the retail space.

Michi
Feb 1, 2012, 6:54 PM
I feel back then there was a lot of talk to make it seem like Detroit was busy with development, mostly from kwame. You either had deals that were already set in stone or pie-in-the-sky proposals that were never gonna happen.
Good point! I think a lot of Kwame's hot air was left over smoke from the Archer Administration. Kwame carried the momentum into his, but as we know now, ruled it with corruption...a nonstarter/destroyer. It's too bad since people really wanted to get behind him.

DetroitSky
Feb 2, 2012, 12:01 AM
How accurate is this info? On their website it only lists around 40 units as being reserved. Although i have no doubt at all this building will become 100% leased.

I was told this by the people I was talking to that worked for Quicken. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I suppose we should go by what the site says.

Saw this just now, anyone know what building this is?

University of Detroit Mercy will turn downtown firehouse into legal-aid clinics
By Meghana Keshaven
| | | | | |
The University of Detroit Mercy School of Law will repurpose the historic Engine No. 2 firehouse downtown to accommodate the school’s 10 legal aid-clinics.

The 6,000-square-foot, two-story building, on Larned Street about half a block from UDM’s riverfront campus, is slated to reopen this December.

A gift from UDM law alumnus Anthony Asher of the Southfield law firm Sullivan, Ward, Asher, & Patton PC allowed for the purchase and upcoming renovation of the firehouse. Additional support came from the heirs of Walter Buhl Ford III and the Detroit-based McGregor Fund.

While the amount donated and purchase price of the building have not been disclosed, UDM law Dean Lloyd Semple said the renovation will cost about $1 million.

The 1910 firehouse was gutted in 2008 by Ford, the building’s former owner, with designs to renovate it into an audio and video recording studio. After Ford’s death in 2010, the plans were shelved, Semple said.

Architects already have surveyed the old firehouse and have drawn up floor plans for the 10 clinics.

Last November, the UDM law school spent $8 million to renovate its existing building, Dowling Hall.

In the UDM clinics, law students and faculty provide about 1,500 Detroiters annually with immigration, foreclosure and veterans affairs legal assistance.

“Our new facility is going to be much more accessible – right out there, visible to the entire Detroit community,” Semple said. “We expect this will increase the demand for our services.”

mind field
Feb 2, 2012, 2:55 AM
I was told this by the people I was talking to that worked for Quicken. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I suppose we should go by what the site says.



Yeah, i actually emailed them, and they told me that their website is accurate, only 40 units have been reserved out of a total of 125 (or so). But like i said before, i have no doubt this will become 100% leased in short order. It is the premiere urban address in the entire state of Michigan.

Onn
Feb 2, 2012, 4:00 AM
Shot brought to you by the governor today who was on MSNBC! :whip:

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/404607_10150523795513359_93955318358_9157226_55647982_n.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/RickForMichigan

Rizzo
Feb 3, 2012, 1:04 AM
The Union at Midtown...a new apartment complex across the Street from Wayne State University is to be demolished.....then reconstructed due to flood damage.

Total loss to catastrophic floods as a result of plumbing failure is extremely rare unless it was due to a fire sprinkler failing, but usually an alarm would be triggered and the water shut off before water begins to move laterally to other units. It's happened in my building, but typically water is isolated to a single apartment, as it dumps down into the plumbing chases, and across the basement floor until it reaches a storm drain. Not sure how this building was constructed to accommodate accidental flooding.

Michi
Feb 3, 2012, 6:20 PM
Posting here, for lack of a better place...

I found this photo on ebay of all places. It is of the demolition of the old City Hall Building at Campus Martius in 1961. What a horrible scene! :(
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1961-Demolition-Detroit-City-Hall-Orig-Press-Photo-/00/$(KGrHqN,!hsE3,H)57rtBOFi-Lty8w~~0_3.JPG

subterranean
Feb 3, 2012, 7:36 PM
Posting here, for lack of a better place...

I found this photo on ebay of all places. It is of the demolition of the old City Hall Building at Campus Martius in 1961. What a horrible scene! :(
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1961-Demolition-Detroit-City-Hall-Orig-Press-Photo-/00/$%28KGrHqN,%21hsE3,H%2957rtBOFi-Lty8w%7E%7E0_3.JPG

Wow, what the hell were these people thinking (and still)? I'm staying at the Westin next week and I still can't believe the gaping hole left by the Lafayette.

Michi
Feb 3, 2012, 8:16 PM
Wow, what the hell were these people thinking (and still)? I'm staying at the Westin next week and I still can't believe the gaping hole left by the Lafayette.
For sure! If you didn't know what the demo was in the picture above, it's not hard to imagine it might be the Michigan Central Station, which is scary. Have fun at the WBC! :)

LMich
Feb 4, 2012, 1:44 AM
However it looked on the outside (and I do like the exterior), the old city hall was shoddily built from the start and wasn't at all opulent on the inside, and had quickly became cramped as the city grew. It was certainly no Wayne County Courthouse. If someone had a plan for reuse, it'd have been great, but I don't consider it among the city's greatest architectural loses.

animatedmartian
Feb 4, 2012, 3:00 AM
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2012/02/new_hopes_for_old_tiger_stadiu.html

New hopes for old Tiger Stadium site: Detroit delegation backs proposal for youth facility

Detroit's state delegation is throwing its weight behind a new proposal to redevelop the old Tiger Stadium site as a youth baseball facility.

State Sen. Morris Hood III and 15 of his colleagues, in a letter sent to Mayor Dave Bing on Tuesday, urged him to sit down with Sen. Carl Levin and the Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy to work out a transfer agreement for the parcel at the corner of Michigan and Trumbull.

"Any shot in the arm the city can take right now is a positive, and the different avenues and ideas in this new endeavor could be great for the city of Detroit and Corktown," Hood told MLive.com.

The conservancy would use a $3.8 million federal earmark (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/08/old_tiger_stadium_conservancy.html)secured by Levin in 2008 to restore the playing field and potentially build a small museum recognizing the site's historical significance.

Leftover funds could be used for facade improvements and other beautification projects on Michigan Avenue and in the surrounding neighborhood.

"We're talking mainly about making sure kids have the opportunity to experience baseball," Hood said. "Baseball has done great for us in the past, getting inner city kids the chance to experience baseball, to learn baseball, to play baseball on a baseball field."

Mayor Dave Bing's press secretary confirmed that he received the letter and plans to draft a response in coming weeks. He is not prepared to offer public comment at this time.

Detroit, of course, is in the midst of a financial crisis. Some Council members have proposed closing all of the city's recreation centers, motivating Hood to send the letter this week.

The letter also was signed by State Sens. Tupac Hunter, Bert Johnson, Virgil Smith and Reps. Timothy Bledsoe, Fred Durhal Jr., Lisa Howze, Shanelle Jackson, David Nathan, John Olumba, Thomas Stallworth, Harvey Santana, Maureen Stapleton, Alberta Tinsley-Talabi, Rashida Tlaib and Jimmy Womack.

Levin secured the federal earmark in 2008 as preservationists sought to spare a portion of Tiger Stadium from demolition. The city eventually tore down the entire structure, leaving a vacant and poorly-secured lot in its wake.

Volunteers, calling themselves the Navin Field Grounds Crew (http://www.michiganradio.org/post/grounds-crew-keeps-old-tiger-stadium-site)in reference to the original name of what would later become Tiger Stadium, have assumed maintenance of the corner, trespassing on the city-owned lot to mow grass, pick up trash and make sure the field is fit for the occasional pickup game.

The conservancy, meanwhile, successfully submitted a grant application with the U.S. Department of Housing and Development last August allowing them to administer the Levin earmark.

But to date, the city has rejected any and all proposals for the site (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/03/the_corner_development_detroit.html), arguing that its proximity to multiple freeways makes it a prime candidate for commercial development. Last year, the city even rejected an offer by Chevrolet (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/09/detroit_balks_at_chevrolet_off.html) to rehabilitate the field.

The conservancy would be content to lease the land, which would allow the city to reclaim it in the future, so long as they have the chance do something productive in the interim.

"We'd be happy to own the land, lease the land or do whatever," Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy President Thom Linn told MLive.com. "It's a shame that it's just laying fallow and growing weeds."

http://media.mlive.com/detroit/photo/10119980-standard.jpg

subterranean
Feb 4, 2012, 3:02 AM
However it looked on the outside (and I do like the exterior), the old city hall was shoddily built from the start and wasn't at all opulent on the inside, and had quickly became cramped as the city grew. It was certainly no Wayne County Courthouse. If someone had a plan for reuse, it'd have been great, but I don't consider it among the city's greatest architectural loses.

And what do you consider the greatest architectural losses?

subterranean
Feb 4, 2012, 3:04 AM
Michi, you're back in the Midwest??

fishrose
Feb 4, 2012, 1:39 PM
The current major projects are Broderick and Cobo. Upcoming major projects will most likely be the West Riverfront, the Hudson Block, and the David Whitney Building. Further down the line I'm sure we'll hear something on the Book Tower and even the David Stott.

There's some floor-by-floor action going on in the Stott right now. The bar on the ground floor is open, and the bar on the top floor is fully renovated. From what I've heard the only holdup to opening the top-floor bar and beginning work on the rest of the building is getting the elevators repaired and brought up to code.

fishrose
Feb 4, 2012, 1:43 PM
The Union at Midtown...a new apartment complex across the Street from Wayne State University is to be demolished.....then reconstructed due to flood damage.

Total loss to catastrophic floods as a result of plumbing failure is extremely rare unless it was due to a fire sprinkler failing, but usually an alarm would be triggered and the water shut off before water begins to move laterally to other units. It's happened in my building, but typically water is isolated to a single apartment, as it dumps down into the plumbing chases, and across the basement floor until it reaches a storm drain. Not sure how this building was constructed to accommodate accidental flooding.

I have a friend who lived in that building. I'm no architect, but just watching construction and seeing the interior of the completed building I could tell that every possible corner was being cut. Hopefully they rebuild something that looks less like a piece of shit, but I don't have my hopes up.

mind field
Feb 5, 2012, 2:13 AM
The developers of the Broderick Tower are hosting another open house on opening day for the Tigers, which is April 5. Go to their website for more info.

http://www.brodericktower.com/

Michi
Feb 6, 2012, 3:59 PM
Michi, you're back in the Midwest??
Yah, I found my way back and landed in Chicago! I left the sun in Houston though... ;)

GRsupercity
Feb 6, 2012, 6:45 PM
Im glad to see that chrysler is really pushing detroit. There making it look good. :dj

Rizzo
Feb 6, 2012, 7:08 PM
Yah, I found my way back and landed in Chicago! I left the sun in Houston though... ;)

Logan Square, huh? My friends have convinced me to move out of downtown to LS. I'm excited. I might just be able to sleep at night finally.

Kingofthehill
Feb 6, 2012, 7:51 PM
Logan Square, huh? My friends have convinced me to move out of downtown to LS. I'm excited. I might just be able to sleep at night finally.

Mine, too!

Michi
Feb 7, 2012, 5:58 AM
Logan Square, huh? My friends have convinced me to move out of downtown to LS. I'm excited. I might just be able to sleep at night finally.
You're moving from DT to LS? I think we may just have to do a location swap! ;)

I like it here. Technically, we're just north of LS, but I keep dreaming of a DT location...I've got my eyes on the Fulton Market vicinity & some West Loop. My first love is the water, but Aqua might put me in over my head (pun intended)!

See you on the blue line! :)

LMich
Feb 7, 2012, 2:12 PM
She's coming along, nicely....

February 4th

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6825505481_4922f92d36_b.jpg
Mark Hall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59976283@N07/6825505481/in/photostream)

animatedmartian
Feb 8, 2012, 2:24 AM
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animatedmartian
Feb 9, 2012, 7:23 PM
Progress on the Auburn. Feb 9th.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6847784531_d92b61e007_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6847779893_c5d7c0e5d5_b.jpg

hudkina
Feb 10, 2012, 12:06 AM
The Auburn will really do a lot for "shrinking" that corner.

animatedmartian
Feb 10, 2012, 1:34 AM
I personally would have liked it a little more if it had a couple more floors with more units. But I'm at least glad there's some infill development and hope there's more to come.

subterranean
Feb 10, 2012, 9:15 PM
So much good news as of late. I wonder how long it will be before we hear an announcement about the old Hudson's block (wishful thinking).

Not so much development news, but I got to spend most of the week in Detroit and I had a great time. I can feel an energy in the air that I've never experienced before. I even got to go up to the 33rd floor of the David Stott! The owner is planning on getting it up to fire code and has apparently spent a few million dollars getting the elevators in working order. The 33rd floor is all setup with a bar and it looks like it's ready to roll. The 33rd floor has 360 degree views. Below are a few crappy photos :)

Via Curbed Detroit (http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2012/01/stott-building.php#more):

"In 2010, the building was purchased by then Florida-based Emre Uralli (recently relocated to sunny Grosse Pointe), who made plans to lease the building as office and residential space, sandwiched between lounges on the top and bottom. Recently graced with a large neon martini glass, the Stott building currently hosts the Sky Bar Lounge (http://skybardetroit.com/blog/)in the moderately ironic first-floor space. With the upstairs lounge space possibly opening during the next year, Detroiters may not yet have a fully renovated Stott building— but they will at least be able to do some fantastic vertical bar hopping.

The three Davids include the David Broderick, the David Whitney and the David Stott. All three act as gateways to West District, and as recently as a year ago, all three were vacant and fully dormant. It has long been said that as go the three Davids, so goes downtown Detroit. Today, the David Broderick is in a full redevelopment phase into apartments and retail. The David Whitney is clearly next to be re-born—as a boutique hotel and residential project. The future of the David Stott is less clear, but its skyline prominence, strategic location at the southern gateway to Capitol Park and sheer beauty makes its redevelopment a natural choice. Allowing Detroit to brag that it had brought back the Three Davids is just a bonus."

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7208/6853346037_66e11c1635.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853346037/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853346037/) by With Any Luck (http://www.flickr.com/people/thepacifictheme/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/6853246229_4fc80ae357.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853246229/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853246229/) by With Any Luck (http://www.flickr.com/people/thepacifictheme/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6853244323_c11a06e0ce.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853244323/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853244323/) by With Any Luck (http://www.flickr.com/people/thepacifictheme/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6853241533_8d494d9d3d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853241533/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853241533/) by With Any Luck (http://www.flickr.com/people/thepacifictheme/), on Flickr

In other news, there's a new bar in Corktown near Slows BBQ serving "craft cocktails" called Sugar House (http://www.sugarhousedetroit.com/):

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6853184213_cb622ff744.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853184213/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepacifictheme/6853184213/) by With Any Luck (http://www.flickr.com/people/thepacifictheme/), on Flickr

Highly recommended

animatedmartian
Feb 10, 2012, 9:32 PM
Such an awesome view! Cool to see the Broderick from that angle. :D

Just wanted to point out as well, in the same picture on the block over in the T-intersection that little building has been going through renovations.

The other day:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6853299249_ed24e3b620_b.jpg

Definitely something that could have been easily be missed, but one less vacancy in Detroit. :D

http://www.detroitfunk.com/2009images/october2009/DSC_6603.jpg
http://www.detroitfunk.com/?tag=30-clifford-street

Rizzo
Feb 10, 2012, 11:50 PM
I agree with the post above how you can really sense things are improving in places around Detroit. Whenever I'm in town on business, there's always something new. The David stott would make a fantastic residential building. I'm happy Broderick is fully leased though sad the penthouses are rented out

hudkina
Feb 11, 2012, 12:03 AM
The website says only 43 of the units are "reserved", though it may not be up to date. There's only a few units left in the upper 10 floors. I'd love a unit in this building, but it's just a bit too out of my range. I'm not paying $750 for a studio on the lower floors.;)

DetroitSky
Feb 11, 2012, 2:06 AM
...into a three level Buffalo Wild Wings.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CD/20120210/FREE/120219982/AR/0/AR-120219982.jpg&MaxW=290

I can't post the contents of the article because I'm not a subscriber and I've already accessed the site twice today, but here's the link:
http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120210/FREE/120219982/buffalo-wild-wings-to-open-in-detroit-near-campus-martius-greektown

Onn
Feb 22, 2012, 12:03 AM
Babcock wants new Wings arena

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120221&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=202210419&Ref=AR&MaxW=600&Border=0

Louis Aguilar
The Detroit News
February 21, 2012

Detroit Red Wings head coach Mike Babcock expressed frustration Tuesday that the state government is not supporting plans to build a new hockey arena in downtown Detroit and vaguely referred to a development connected to it — a mall.

"A new facility, no question," Babcock said Tuesday morning on a 97.1 The Ticket sports radio talk show, when asked if he preferred that the Wings continue to play at Joe Louis Arena or at a new arena.

"If we want the city to come back, we got to revitalize downtown. And a big part of that's going to be the new arena, and the mall and the stuff going around it," he said. "And that's very important. That's why we need the state to jump onside. The sooner the better, if we're going to revitalize Michigan. It's got to start right here in Detroit."

An Olympia Entertainment spokeswoman did not have an immediate comment.

Wings owner Mike Ilitch, billionaire founder of a pizza, sports and entertainment empire known as Ilitch Holdings, has said for more than five years that he wants to build an arena downtown for the hockey team. He has indicated that financing is one of the snags in constructing such a facility.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120221/BIZ/202210419/Babcock-wants-new-Wings-arena?odyssey=tab|topnews|text

Rizzo
Feb 22, 2012, 12:33 AM
Dated thinking. Stadiums don't revitalize downtowns. They give downtowns recognition but not economic growth. Ever since Comerica and Ford Field have opened up, the actual square footages of total retail and restaurants has not increased. Any development is independent of the stadiums and has nothing to do with needs of game day crowds. The stadiums may have cleaned up some blight but they also perpetuated activity dead zones downtown.

I support a new stadium, but I also feel the need to call out ignorance when necessary. Find better reasons to convince business leaders and city officials this is worth investing in. JLA is in rough shape, a new stadium would perpetuate full time jobs (construction, arch, and engineers) and it would free up land in the waterfront. But the trite "revitalize the city" statements that come with these perceived silver bullet projects is no longer convincing. If they were this new stadium would be finished and open by now.

Onn
Feb 22, 2012, 12:43 AM
Dated thinking. Stadiums don't revitalize downtowns. They give downtowns recognition but not economic growth. Ever since Comerica and Ford Field have opened up, the actual square footages of total retail and restaurants has not increased. Any development is independent of the stadiums and has nothing to do with needs of game day crowds. The stadiums may have cleaned up some blight but they also perpetuated activity dead zones downtown.

I support a new stadium, but I also feel the need to call out ignorance when necessary. Find better reasons to convince business leaders and city officials this is worth investing in. JLA is in rough shape, a new stadium would perpetuate full time jobs (construction, arch, and engineers) and it would free up land in the waterfront. But the trite "revitalize the city" statements that come with these perceived silver bullet projects is no longer convincing. If they were this new stadium would be finished and open by now.

If you don't have people living down there, no the retail won't follow. If you do, and yes Detroit does need more retail, than I think the statment holds some weight. The city really needs more pratical retail though, not the specialty spaces. Hooking the two togther would be optimal, but I don't think anyone knows what the exact plans are yet.

animatedmartian
Feb 29, 2012, 11:50 PM
http://metrotimes.com/news/tunnel-vision-in-greektown-1.1278629

Tunnel vision in Greektown
The Laikon Café, a link to historic Greektown, is set for demolition

New construction approved by the city of Detroit means downtown's Greektown Casino is poised to grow — even if it means that the actual Greektown will get a little smaller in the bargain.

This week, heavy machinery went to work tearing up the former Wayne County Sheriff's parking lot and headquarters across the alley behind Greektown. It was announced last July that the casino's holding company had acquired the land. After meeting with Detroit's City Planning Commission that month, the city agreed to rezone the parcel, allowing for the construction of a parking garage on the 1.1-acre lot behind Monroe Street.

According to planning commission minutes, Marvin Beatty, the casino's chief community liaison officer, said the new garage would allow the valet service to retrieve cars in 5-7 minutes — as opposed to the 20-30 minutes it takes them now.

To speed passage between the casino and the parking structure, the building that formerly housed the Laikon Café will be demolished so that a pedestrian tube, or skywalk, can be built over Monroe Street.

....


Greg Moots of the City Planning Department says that plans call for the demolition of the building that the Laikon was in, installation of the skywalk, and construction of a new building beneath it. While preservationists such as Grunow are thankful that the streetwall will at least be left intact, it's unknown how well the new building will fit in with the existing architecture.
And Greektown Casino is being tight-lipped on specifics. The casino declined to comment for this story.

Even as fans of historic Greektown complain, the fact remains that, year by year, there is less to complain about because many of the Greek restaurants have finally disappeared. With the closing of New Hellas in 2008, Cyprus Taverna in 2010, and now the Laikon gone, only a handful of actual Greek restaurants remain.

The way Kettunen sees it, the slow disappearance of Greektown is the work of the casino and the city. With frustration in his voice, he says, "As far as I'm concerned, why not just tear the whole thing [Greektown] down and build a parking lot and a bunch of tubes into the buildings? That's what it seems they're going to do anyway. And it's a shame that the city of Detroit supports that kind of development."



Location reference: http://g.co/maps/dmc2a

Rizzo
Mar 1, 2012, 12:03 AM
http://metrotimes.com/news/tunnel-vision-in-greektown-1.1278629



Location reference: http://g.co/maps/dmc2a

How stupid. Let's just say they build the garage. It would mean valet would have to run around the block.

The horror one minute makes!

Please, valet agents here in Chicago run a couple blocks to retrieve vehicles after patrons eat a $200 /plate meal. The customers don't mind. The casino is saving a minute of extra time maybe by demolishing this building?

In the future, Greektown should be stripped of its designation and renamed "Greektown Casino" There's no point in calling it a district when no such district exists. Currently, it's a really big casino with a couple of support businesses.

This is sad. Greektown is basically the last shred of vibrant fine grain street in Detroit. They also haven't rebuilt the two story commercial building on the corner. Whatever happened to that promised development?

animatedmartian
Mar 1, 2012, 1:39 AM
Haven't heard about that corner for a while, but I agree that it's sad and frustrating to see Greektown essentially turn into a prefab amusement park.

hudkina
Mar 1, 2012, 2:22 AM
You make it sound as if the entire district is being torn down...

animatedmartian
Mar 1, 2012, 2:47 AM
That street block pretty much is the whole district so one building means a whole lot.

And it's not like they're building anything of importance. If it was a skywalk to some type of mixed-use residential development, then it wouldn't seem as bad, but it's some useless parking garage so the valet service can be a few minutes quicker.

It's more about principals, really.

hudkina
Mar 1, 2012, 3:35 AM
There's no point in resorting to hyperbole. A simple, "That sucks, I wish they wouldn't do that." is all that is needed...

animatedmartian
Mar 1, 2012, 4:06 AM
Well, disgruntled citizens often will say something more dramatic than needed. This seemed to be typical of Detroit; Historical well preserved architecture that is occupied demolished to make way for a super-mega-block (it's only a half-block in reality, I know) development that isn't in anyway progressive.

Then again, the other restaurant owners on the block agreed to the demolition so I guess everyone else is just the sore loser in a democracy. :yuck:

Rizzo
Mar 1, 2012, 5:04 AM
There's no point in resorting to hyperbole. A simple, "That sucks, I wish they wouldn't do that." is all that is needed...

Yes, B.S. excuses Detroit has made for years. Tear down perfectly good buildings. Oh that's sucks...carry on, nothing to see here!

The only exaggeration here is Detroit calling a casino, a bar, a pizza place, a bakery, a couple liquor stores, and several parking garages a district. That's called an intersection....maybe a block. Calling it a -town is just as bastardizing as the AsianTown Parking garage.

I hate seeing the last shreds of life in this great city reduced to rubble. For what? Shaving off a couple minutes for valet.

animatedmartian
Mar 1, 2012, 6:22 AM
For more positive development, new renderings and plans of the Whole Foods in Midtown. Nothing too dramatic, though I do like the mural panels that's along John R. :D

http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2012/02/detroits-whole-foods-now-you-can-peruse-the-parking-plans.php#4f3411dd85216d288a01092b

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/4f34121785216d6b6404bb2b/IMG_6044.JPG

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/4f34122085216d6b6404bb3f/IMG_6045.JPG

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/4f34122485216d6b6404bb49/IMG_6042.JPG

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/4f34121285216d6b6404bb21/IMG_6040.JPG

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/4f34120e85216d6b6404bb17/IMG_6041.JPG

Rizzo
Mar 1, 2012, 8:42 AM
^ Damn shame they couldn't put the parking on the roof. Rooftop parking is not uncommon for Whole Foods. It just seems strange they wouldn't have secure parking. Regardless it's nice to see a big food retailer coming to town.

subterranean
Mar 1, 2012, 1:59 PM
Looks small. I bet this thing is jam packed day in and day out.

Cleveland Brown
Mar 1, 2012, 3:07 PM
^ Damn shame they couldn't put the parking on the roof. Rooftop parking is not uncommon for Whole Foods. It just seems strange they wouldn't have secure parking. Regardless it's nice to see a big food retailer coming to town.

Rooftop parking? The University Heights (Cleveland) store has parking on the roof (open ramp, unless there is a sawhorse in the driveway), but every time I've parked up there I couldn't help but think that the space would be better used as a rooftop Biergarten / wine bar or any other outdoor eating space. It could also help to prevent customers from being bothered, while eating, from panhandlers in the area. And let's not forget, being in Detroit, I wouldn't want to build a permanent unsecured parking ramp to give scrappers easy access to HVAC equipment.

Rizzo
Mar 1, 2012, 7:42 PM
Rooftop parking? The University Heights (Cleveland) store has parking on the roof (open ramp, unless there is a sawhorse in the driveway), but every time I've parked up there I couldn't help but think that the space would be better used as a rooftop Biergarten / wine bar or any other outdoor eating space. It could also help to prevent customers from being bothered, while eating, from panhandlers in the area. And let's not forget, being in Detroit, I wouldn't want to build a permanent unsecured parking ramp to give scrappers easy access to HVAC equipment.

I can answer those. Here's how I'd design it.

First I'd make this a multi-tenant building. Allow two smaller tenants to occupy the street corner. Whole foods would be shifted closer to the Ellington.

The space between the Ellington and Whole Foods becomes a nice plaza with outdoor seating. Ellington folks get a nicer view (as opposed to a parking lot) and WF patrons are sheltered from the noisy traffic in a better enclosed, shaded, and landscaped place. Usually they can put up a knee wall or fence where you only access the eating area from the inside. I eat outside all the time in nice weather but have never seen homeless approach diners. Does this happen? It seems just as uncommon (and illegal) as panhandlers approaching people at ATMs.

I'd definitely have the entrance face the street at that corner of the plaza as well. Stair towers should be located close by as well. The garage would need to be two levels. To make this building affordable, it could be constructed of precast panels and then faced in a nicer material. Mechanical can usually go rooftop above parking, or you could notch out a secure corner for it...or even locate air handlers internally with wall louvers facing service areas. Scrapping of mechanical equipment occurs less frequently in newer buildings because it can be placed inside. It's a bigger problem with older buildings where there is nowhere to locate equipment.

The parking is gated. You'd have to take a ticket and validate upon purchase. This how most grocery stores with garages work in Chicago. Jewel, Dominicks, Whole Foods, Trader Joes, and Target

The two additional tenant spaces would better assist with more retail and restaurant options in the area. It would also permit a more continuous street level.

Cleveland Brown
Mar 1, 2012, 10:33 PM
I can answer those. Here's how I'd design it.

First I'd make this a multi-tenant building. Allow two smaller tenants to occupy the street corner. Whole foods would be shifted closer to the Ellington.

The space between the Ellington and Whole Foods becomes a nice plaza with outdoor seating. Ellington folks get a nicer view (as opposed to a parking lot) and WF patrons are sheltered from the noisy traffic in a better enclosed, shaded, and landscaped place. Usually they can put up a knee wall or fence where you only access the eating area from the inside. I eat outside all the time in nice weather but have never seen homeless approach diners. Does this happen? It seems just as uncommon (and illegal) as panhandlers approaching people at ATMs.

I'd definitely have the entrance face the street at that corner of the plaza as well. Stair towers should be located close by as well. The garage would need to be two levels. To make this building affordable, it could be constructed of precast panels and then faced in a nicer material. Mechanical can usually go rooftop above parking, or you could notch out a secure corner for it...or even locate air handlers internally with wall louvers facing service areas. Scrapping of mechanical equipment occurs less frequently in newer buildings because it can be placed inside. It's a bigger problem with older buildings where there is nowhere to locate equipment.

The parking is gated. You'd have to take a ticket and validate upon purchase. This how most grocery stores with garages work in Chicago. Jewel, Dominicks, Whole Foods, Trader Joes, and Target

The two additional tenant spaces would better assist with more retail and restaurant options in the area. It would also permit a more continuous street level.

Yes they do. I've never been approached at an ATM (thank goodness), but I have been a couple of times. In fact, Avalon Bakery not too far away on Cass & Willis usually has a panhandler or two asking for change outside the doorway. When they get to close I've seen employees chase them away.

And let's not forget that this project is being subsidized by the city of Detroit. While I agree that there are a million ways to improve upon the design, I think Whole Foods went with the "as cheap as possible while maintaining our high-class image" plan. The Grosse Pointe Trader Joe's has secured parking, but if I remember correctly the deck was built when the retail space was the Jacobson's Department Store (and the Pointes were wealthier). Wouldn't building a parking deck add substantially to the cost of the project? And isn't the cost of acquiring land for surface parking much cheaper than building a parking structure in Detroit - even in desirable midtown/medical center? How much would building a patio/outdoor area on the roof cost? I can't imagine it cannot cost more than the price of adding an elevator, stairway, maybe a small cafe addition to the roof, and the cost of landscaping the roof.

Rizzo
Mar 2, 2012, 1:22 AM
Yes they do. I've never been approached at an ATM (thank goodness), but I have been a couple of times. In fact, Avalon Bakery not too far away on Cass & Willis usually has a panhandler or two asking for change outside the doorway. When they get to close I've seen employees chase them away.

And let's not forget that this project is being subsidized by the city of Detroit. While I agree that there are a million ways to improve upon the design, I think Whole Foods went with the "as cheap as possible while maintaining our high-class image" plan. The Grosse Pointe Trader Joe's has secured parking, but if I remember correctly the deck was built when the retail space was the Jacobson's Department Store (and the Pointes were wealthier). Wouldn't building a parking deck add substantially to the cost of the project? And isn't the cost of acquiring land for surface parking much cheaper than building a parking structure in Detroit - even in desirable midtown/medical center? How much would building a patio/outdoor area on the roof cost? I can't imagine it cannot cost more than the price of adding an elevator, stairway, maybe a small cafe addition to the roof, and the cost of landscaping the roof.

That's unfortunate about the homeless. I've never experienced this but I suppose it happens. It may have alot to do with inadequate manpower to enforce pandhandling laws, but since I suggested the enclosed and sheltered seating area, it may take care of that problem.

As far as additional costs, your accessible rooftop and garden is approaching the same costs as my scheme. Depending on how you envision it, possibly more expensive. You are talking 60-100 psf loading vs my 25 psf loading to just support cars. Your scheme is going to require much deeper structure to support all that soil, plants, tables, pavers, and people.. I'd probably opt for steel as opposed to precast concrete double T's or planks that I suggested in my scheme which would require fabrication and more field assembly time. Elevators and stairways are expensive, this is why I tried to justify these additions with a mult-tenant building that could share these components. Plus I need more linear space along the back of the parcel for ramps and approach up to the garage.

A cheaper idea for a green roof is to make inaccessible and place trays of midwest sedum. It's lightweight because it requires less soil.

LMich
Mar 2, 2012, 11:24 AM
More Quicken hiring, much it going downtown from what I hear:

Quicken Loans seeks to hire 1,400 for jobs (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120302/BIZ/203020352/Briefs-Quicken-Loans-seeks-hire-1-400-jobs?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s)

March 2, 2012 | The Detroit News

Online retail mortgage lender Quicken Loans is seeking 1,400 people for jobs in the Detroit-based company — some of them previously announced.

Recruiting Director Michelle Salvatore told The Associated Press on Thursday that about 300 positions are in technology. Positions also are open for underwriters and other mortgage processors in marketing, human resources, accounting and finance.

Cleveland Brown
Mar 2, 2012, 4:30 PM
That's unfortunate about the homeless. I've never experienced this but I suppose it happens. It may have alot to do with inadequate manpower to enforce pandhandling laws, but since I suggested the enclosed and sheltered seating area, it may take care of that problem.

As far as additional costs, your accessible rooftop and garden is approaching the same costs as my scheme. Depending on how you envision it, possibly more expensive. You are talking 60-100 psf loading vs my 25 psf loading to just support cars. Your scheme is going to require much deeper structure to support all that soil, plants, tables, pavers, and people.. I'd probably opt for steel as opposed to precast concrete double T's or planks that I suggested in my scheme which would require fabrication and more field assembly time. Elevators and stairways are expensive, this is why I tried to justify these additions with a mult-tenant building that could share these components. Plus I need more linear space along the back of the parcel for ramps and approach up to the garage.

A cheaper idea for a green roof is to make inaccessible and place trays of midwest sedum. It's lightweight because it requires less soil.

Drats! If the costs are that high then I think you're right that a more complex project will not work without additional tenants (I don't think an Eataly New York type project would be feasible in Detroit, but could Detroit Brewing Works relocated to the roof). What a shame that in densifying midtown we're still building large single store buildings with surface parking lots.

Michi
Mar 2, 2012, 6:45 PM
^ "Still"? Did I miss the boom? ;)

subterranean
Mar 2, 2012, 8:55 PM
Packard Plant Ruins to Be Demolished, Owner Says

The man who Detroit officials say is responsible for the aging Packard Motor Car plant -- which has become a worldwide symbol of the city's decay -- is on the verge of demolishing it.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120301/NEWS01/120301073/Packard-plant-ruins-to-be-demolished?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20120301/NEWS01/120301073/Packard-plant-ruins-to-be-demolished?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE)

Cleveland Brown
Mar 2, 2012, 9:39 PM
^ "Still"? Did I miss the boom? ;)

Well, I know you were being tongue-in-cheek, but remember we almost lost Orchestra Hall for a gas station. And God knows what was torn down in the last 15 years for the McDonald's and CVS in the area. Outside of downtown, let's not even begin to mention how Anita Baker demolished one of Detroit's few remaining historic Federal-Style houses (Chene House, home to Little Harry's Restaurant) to build an IHOP :hell:

Rizzo
Mar 3, 2012, 2:41 AM
Packard Plant Ruins to Be Demolished, Owner Says



http://www.freep.com/article/20120301/NEWS01/120301073/Packard-plant-ruins-to-be-demolished?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20120301/NEWS01/120301073/Packard-plant-ruins-to-be-demolished?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE)

Lol I'll believe it when I see it though I bet one gust of wind could topple that brittle structure. The salvage value if brick and steel should promise decent returns though.

LMich
Mar 8, 2012, 12:01 PM
There are finally plans to demolish the vacant Frederick Douglass Towers (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120307/FREE/120309903/bings-state-of-city-presents-priorities-few-details-of-detroits#) at the Brewster Projects just north of downtown. Now, the wait to see if it happens, this year:

Bing said that this year, in collaboration with the Housing Commission and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, the city will demolish the old Frederick Douglass housing development, commonly called the Brewster Projects – four vacant high-rise buildings that tower above I-75.

In other tentatively good news, Gilbert is adamant (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120307/STAFFBLOG08/120309905/dan-gilberts-big-bang-theory-for-detroit-development) that the Downtown-to-New Center streetcar line will have shovels in the ground by year's end:

Gilbert also addressed several hot topics in Detroit, such as the proposed light rail line on Woodward and the possibility of an emergency financial manager.

He said the light rail plan, which has 29 days left in a 90-day approval period, has the backing it needs and that "the details are being tended to."

"That line will be in the ground by the end of this calendar year," he said.

Finally, another (http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2012/03/dan_gilbert_expect_1800_more_e.html) Gilbert announcements:

Dan Gilbert is expecting to bring nearly 2,000 more employees this year to downtown Detroit.

Gilbert, founder and chairman of Quicken Loans Inc., said 1,800 employees involved with his umbrella companies, including the online mortgage giant and Title Source Inc., are scheduled to move to the First National Bank Building and Dime Building by year's end.

“By the end of 2012, our family of companies will have about 5,400 full-time people right here in Campus Martius -- and that’s a city,” Gilbert said Wednesday at the Idea: Detroit conference, hosted by Advertising Age and Crain's Detroit Business. “I think it’s one of the best moves we’ve ever made.”

subterranean
Mar 8, 2012, 1:34 PM
There are finally plans to demolish the vacant Frederick Douglass Towers (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120307/FREE/120309903/bings-state-of-city-presents-priorities-few-details-of-detroits#) at the Brewster Projects just north of downtown. Now, the wait to see if it happens, this year:



In other tentatively good news, Gilbert is adamant (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120307/STAFFBLOG08/120309905/dan-gilberts-big-bang-theory-for-detroit-development) that the Downtown-to-New Center streetcar line will have shovels in the ground by year's end:

And in the same article, finally some sense. In the classic chick or the egg scenario or retail vs. people, do both!

After acquiring buildings up and down Woodward between Grand Circus Park and Jefferson over the last year, Gilbert said that he and his real estate team have been holding-off on the requests from retailers to rent space.


"The interest is really high," he said. "But we want to put this off until we can put everything into one big design."


The end goal, he said, is to have one large plan to have all of the retail developed under one master plan.

Michi
Mar 8, 2012, 3:17 PM
I'm only skeptical of any comments made toward rail. I remember, when I was in college not too long ago, that Woodward Light Rail would be open and fully functional in 2011. That seemed so far away at the time! Instead, public transportation has all but disintegrated since then. :sly:

animatedmartian
Mar 12, 2012, 5:26 PM
More about the Woodward Corridor development.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CD/20120311/FREE/303119965/AR/0/AR-303119965.jpg&MaxW=290

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120311/FREE/303119965/gilbert-details-his-big-bang-theory#

Vision for retail video. (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120308/FREE/120309896)

Rizzo
Mar 12, 2012, 5:53 PM
More about the Woodward Corridor development.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CD/20120311/FREE/303119965/AR/0/AR-303119965.jpg&MaxW=290

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120311/FREE/303119965/gilbert-details-his-big-bang-theory#

Vision for retail video. (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20120308/FREE/120309896)

^ Yes Please! I hope the next big annoucement would be a retail / residential property on the Hudsons site.

I was in town over the weekend. Here's a couple phone pics of the Auburn

http://www.umich.edu/~ifmuth/auburn01.jpg

http://www.umich.edu/~ifmuth/auburn02.jpg

subterranean
Mar 12, 2012, 6:35 PM
^ Yes Please! I hope the next big annoucement would be a retail / residential property on the Hudsons site.

I was in town over the weekend. Here's a couple phone pics of the Auburn

http://www.umich.edu/%7Eifmuth/auburn01.jpg

http://www.umich.edu/%7Eifmuth/auburn02.jpg


My work fronted some of the money for the complex financial package it took to make the Auburn a reality. I hope it is a success.

Michi
Mar 13, 2012, 2:42 PM
Thanks for the visual progress at the Auburn site! :)

I'm shocked at how massive the parking proportions are for the Hudson's block rendering! I realize as downtown grows, there is a need for accessible parking, but my hope is that it develops more hidden in the urban design. The sightlines at the 10-story Lofts of Merchant's Row across the street would be cavernous, fume-infested, open parking slabs...looking above the 12th level, you'd see some odd residential structure (a fraction of the scale of the garage it sits on) floating above the city. I thought the garage at 1001 Woodward was gawdy enough, and that's the gateway to Campus Martius. I still have hope for the Monroe block design, but I swear, if cars are going to be parked over Campus Martius frontage, we sure as heck aren't trying hard enough! :shrug:

montréaliste
Mar 13, 2012, 3:12 PM
Thanks for the visual progress at the Auburn site! :)

I'm shocked at how massive the parking proportions are for the Hudson's block rendering! I realize as downtown grows, there is a need for accessible parking, but my hope is that it develops more hidden in the urban design. The sightlines at the 10-story Lofts of Merchant's Row across the street would be cavernous, fume-infested, open parking slabs...looking above the 12th level, you'd see some odd residential structure (a fraction of the scale of the garage it sits on) floating above the city. I thought the garage at 1001 Woodward was gawdy enough, and that's the gateway to Campus Martius. I still have hope for the Monroe block design, but I swear, if cars are going to be parked over Campus Martius frontage, we sure as heck aren't trying hard enough! :shrug:

Yes, as you say in a nutshell; they are not trying hard enough. In spite of the hoopla promises Gilbert makes about a new downtown with increased affluence and integrated transit; his building for the Hudson's site is like a third strike for detroiters wanting sustainable projects. The need to cut with the city's past mistakes; the doing away with streetcars, the demolition of JL Hudson's and all the rest is not dealt with in a proper way. There is enough parking in the area to begin with. Go back to the drawing board guys and do something extraordinary for the city! A few stories of condos and many stories of parking will not attract retailers or metro detroiters or tourists. It will in fact send a message to non-detroiters that the city is not ready for a turnaround.

subterranean
Mar 16, 2012, 3:24 PM
Looks like Book Cadillac is in a bit of trouble:

Detroit— The Westin Book Cadillac avoided defaulting on a $15 million loan this month after a city pension fund intervened, raising questions about the health of a landmark hotel and symbol of the city's economic redevelopment.
The Detroit Police and Fire pension fund made a partial interest payment March 1 after hotel owner John Ferchill outlined the Book Cadillac's financial condition.
The Cleveland-based developer told pension trustees the project has lost $23 million after deals to sell condominiums atop the hotel fell through.
More than three years after the hotel opened to fanfare with a celebrity-studded gala and a $180 million restoration, the Book Cadillac's largest original lender has pulled out, only nine or 10 of the 67 luxury condominiums have been sold and daily room rates are running below projections.


http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120316/BIZ/203160376/Financial-woes-cast-shadow-Book-Cadillac?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120316/BIZ/203160376/Financial-woes-cast-shadow-Book-Cadillac?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE)

DetroitSky
Mar 17, 2012, 12:20 AM
Saw workers moving dirt today at the Whole Foods site. Also saw workers going in and out of the old Lane Bryant building and it's neighbor that are both owned by Bedrock/Quicken. Good to see.

mind field
Mar 18, 2012, 4:26 PM
GM's media-buying firm expected to bring 200 jobs to Detroit
By Zlati Meyer
Detroit Free Press Business Writer
March 18, 2012

General Motors' new media-buying company is expected to bring an estimated 200 new jobs to downtown Detroit.

Carat, which is owned by the London-headquartered Aegis Group, is opening an office on the 23rd floor of One Detroit Center.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120318/BUSINESS0101/203180435/GM-s-media-buying-firm-expected-to-bring-200-jobs-to-Detroit?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p


Well the trickle keeps on coming in! Skidmore studios, Carat, Title Source, Silverstein (think that's the name of the ad agency in the Palms Building), the new patent office all coming to Detroit.

animatedmartian
Mar 19, 2012, 3:40 PM
http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2012/03/detroits-rental-rate-goal-2-per-square-foot.php

Detroit's Residential Rental Rate Goal: $2 Per Square Foot

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Chairman and founder of Quicken Loans (and bulk buyer of downtown buildings), Dan Gilbert, must have tipped someone heavily at the Crain's Detroit department of graphics. In the above image he is the tallest of the heavy-hitting Detroit developers when in real life, the man is puny 5 foot 6.

Speaking of coming up short, the article discusses how current rental rates are the hold up in more residential development: in downtown and midtown, the average residential rental rate is $1.25 per square foot but to turn a profit, projects need to bring in around $2 per square foot.

"Filling that gap between rental income and project cost remains the role of subsidies from federal, state and local governments as well as philanthropy. There are hopes of a virtuous circle: As more projects push up the limits of the rental rate, more development can occur to push the limits higher yet again. "

Gilbert has been exploring plans for a 350-unit apartment building on the site just north of the Compuware Building on Woodward Avenue. He is optimistic because "The marketplace works, and especially when you're 98 percent occupied with high demand, prices will go up." One encouraging sign is the Broderick Tower, where regular units are around $1.35 per square foot, but the penthouse units are more than $2 per square foot.

Rizzo
Mar 19, 2012, 5:01 PM
$2 / square foot is very ambitious. That's equivalent to alpha level cities inherent of a large downtown office market and the existence of well built up shopping and retail districts. I suppose if the projects are amenity heavy (which adds more cost) you can achieve that. Typically when prices go above $2, you are paying for the location and everything around...not so much the building itself.

RoseCityFreePress
Mar 19, 2012, 5:52 PM
Its great to see big Developments across the river. It seems like over here in Windsor, we are getting a lot of big projects but most of them are being paid for by the City, Province or Federal Governments. Not to much private stuff going on. Although the Government projects range in the billons. Good on you Detroit

Onn
Mar 30, 2012, 8:33 PM
Michigan economy hits 6-year high

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120330&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=203300341&Ref=AR&MaxW=600&Border=0

The Detroit News
Brian O'Connor
March 30, 2012

Bolstered by the mild winter and continuing weakness in housing, the auto rebound is spreading to other parts of the Michigan economy, boosting economic conditions to their best level in six years.

According to a new Comerica Bank estimate of the state economy, the recovery is starting to reach beyond Detroit's Big Three. That trend also is reflected in the February jobs report released Wednesday, which showed that during the past 12 months the state added as many jobs in business and professional services as it did in manufacturing.

Another piece of encouraging economic news released Thursday was the state's announcement that personal income in Michigan grew at the strongest rate since 2000, just before Michigan entered its decade-long "one-state recession."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120330/BIZ/203300341#ixzz1qdOOztN7

Onn
Mar 30, 2012, 8:37 PM
Tigers' new state-of-the-art scoreboard up and running

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120330&Category=SPORTS0104&ArtNo=203300428&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Tigers-new-state-art-scoreboard-up-running

The Detroit News
Tony Paul
March 30, 2012

Detroit— With one week until the Tigers return home to open the 2012 season, Comerica Park workers are feverishly working to put the final touches on a series of impressive ballpark upgrades.

The biggest project, the installment of the state-of-the-art video board, is nearly complete. The 6,000-square-foot, high-definition screen was up and running Friday morning during the Tigers' announcement of a business partnership with the "Pure Michigan" campaign.

After the press conference, the Tigers subbed out the "Pure Michigan" logo on the scoreboard with action videos. To say the least, fans are in for a treat.

It puts to shame the old 1,008-square-foot video board, with was to the right of two out-of-date panels that used only bulbs to display statistical information.

Those panels are gone. And so, hopefully, are the Atari-like graphics, like the clapping hands.

...

Technology upgrades are elsewhere in the ballpark. Underneath the new video board, which will be the largest in the state of Michigan, is a larger, high-def panel to show pitch speeds and pitch counts.

Throughout the ballpark, flat-panel televisions have replaced the old tube screens, too.

The Tigers also are wrapping up upgrades to all their suites. In them, they're renovating the bathrooms and installing new carpeting, furniture and state-of-the-art food-heating equipment.


http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120330/SPORTS0104/203300428#ixzz1qdPjQTzV

Rizzo
Mar 31, 2012, 12:13 AM
The Tigers text looks good. It appears they've realized some of the cheesier retro motifs had to go.

RoseCityFreePress
Apr 3, 2012, 5:00 AM
The new screen looks amazing. I seen them testing it the other day when I was in town. Can't wait for Opening day!

LMich
Apr 3, 2012, 9:30 AM
http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120403&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=204030368&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Detroit-s-shuttered-Hotel-Pontchartrain-finds-buyer
Elizabeth Conley / The Detroit News

Louis Aguilar | The Detroit News

April 3, 2012

Detroit's shuttered Hotel Pontchartrain finds a buyer

The 25-story Detroit hotel that once was an upscale landmark has a new owner who plans to renovate it as a Crowne Plaza hotel, an attorney who brokered the deal said Monday.

The sale of the former Hotel Pontchartrain across from Cobo Center closed last week, said David Findling, the court-appointed receiver who has controlled the downtown property since 2009 after the building went into foreclosure. He wouldn't disclose the sale price or the buyer.

...

There is an agreement in principle with Crowne Plaza to run the property, but there are details still to be worked out, Bohde said.

"I've been told they have plans for a 413-room hotel," he said.

Findling would only say that the buyer is a University of Michigan graduate who has been in involved in about 40 hotel development deals.

"He is well-financed and very capable," Findling said. "Work (on the building) is expected to begin this summer."

...

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120403/BIZ/204030368/Detroit-s-shuttered-Hotel-Pontchartrain-finds-buyer?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Onn
Apr 4, 2012, 2:49 AM
The new screen looks amazing. I seen them testing it the other day when I was in town. Can't wait for Opening day!

I can't wait to see it in action, sure beats the old scoreboard! And I agree the new lettering on top looks so much more professional. :)

Onn
Apr 4, 2012, 3:50 PM
May not bring a ton of workers to downtown in the short term, but no doubt a big PR victory and vote of confidence for the city!

Twitter to open office in downtown Detroit

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120404&Category=TECHNOLOGY&ArtNo=204040424&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Twitter-open-office-downtown-Detroit

The Detroit News
4 April 2012

Twitter, the San Francisco-based social media company, is opening an office in Detroit at the M@dison Building, according to a Quicken Loans Inc. statement released Wednesday.

"A handful" of employees will work in the renovated building owned by Rock Ventures LLC, the umbrella group that coordinates and integrates real estate and investments for Dan Gilbert's portfolio of companies, which includes online mortgage giant Quicken Loans, said Carolyn Artman, a Quicken Loans spokeswoman, in an email. Twitter is in the process of moving in, she said.

Gov. Rick Snyder's spokeswoman Geralyn Lasher said in a tweet that Twitter's move is "great news!"

Twitter hopes to hire more workers when it expands its presence in Detroit, where employees will help advertising agencies and marketers use Twitter's advertising products, according to the statement.

"Detroit's emerging mix of automotive and digital cultures made it a natural location for Twitter's newest office," said Adam Bain, Twitter's president of global revenue, in a statement. "We're excited to work face-to-face with the city's most established brands and happy to play a role in downtown Detroit's digital renaissance."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120404/TECHNOLOGY/204040424#ixzz1r5Tl1xiw

Onn
Apr 4, 2012, 4:12 PM
RoboCop is coming to Detroit, it's just a matter of when

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120404&Category=METRO&ArtNo=204040383&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&RoboCop-coming-Detroit-s-just-matter-when

The Detroit News
Holly Fournier
4 April 2012

A statue of a robotic cyborg from a movie set in Detroit's future is one step closer to having a present-day home.

Hollywood robot statue designer Fred Barton's life-sized model of RoboCop is being scanned at a studio in Canada so it can be cast in bronze with otherworldly proportions.

"The statue's definitely coming," said Jerry Paffendorf, who spearheaded the controversial 2011 campaign to raise money and find a home in Detroit for the statue.

"The only thing that's up in the air is the timeline and where it's going to go."

MGM is "quite entertained and interested" and has officially licensed the project, Paffendorf said.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120404/METRO/204040383#ixzz1r5Z0C3Pc

animatedmartian
Apr 6, 2012, 1:51 AM
Broderick Tower open house offers amazing views on Opening Day in Detroit

Motown Construction Partners, LLC held an open house today to show off ongoing redevelopment of the 34-story Broderick Tower in downtown Detroit.
Fred Beal took media through the building this morning before opening tours to the public, offering reporters a view from the rooftop that residents will not have access to.

While most floors still need work, Beal said the all infrastructure is in place and the project is roughly 80 percent complete. More than 500 people turned out for an open house last fall, and his company has deposits on 75 of the building's 125 residential units.

The first floor is expected to house a wine bar, beer hall and restaurant. The second through fourth floors will contain office space. The remaining floors will be devoted to residential units starting at $650 a month for a studio and running up to $5,000 a month for "sky top penthouses."

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2012/04/photos_broderick_tower_open_ho.html#incart_river_default

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http://media.mlive.com/detroit/photo/2012/04/10801456-standard.jpgA carpenters unions is protesting work rules at the Broderick Tower, but the dispute has not slowed the project.

Onn
Apr 6, 2012, 6:01 AM
Demolition of Cobo Arena begins to make way for overhaul of convention center

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120406&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=204060336&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Demolition-Cobo-Arena-begins-make-way-overhaul-convention-center

The Detroit News
Louis Aguilarand, Susan Whitall
6 April 2012

Detroit— Along the downtown riverfront Thursday morning, a giant crane began to tear down the wall separating Cobo Center and the former Cobo Arena, smashing one of the last physical remains of the legendary concert venue.

The space is part of a nearly $300 million renovation of the entire convention center expected to be completed by 2014, though major parts of it will be ready next year. The former 12,000-seat Cobo Arena will get glass walls and an atrium that will turn it into a state-of-the-art event and banquet space with sweeping views of the Detroit River and the city skyline.

"I'm sure the new Cobo in the future will provide people with a whole new host of wonderful memories," said Thom Connors, regional vice president and general manager of Cobo Center.

The entire convention center is getting a vast overhaul, which will add nearly 125,000 square feet of convention space. The expansion was necessary to keep the North American International Auto Show, the annual event the city was in danger of losing.

It also is expected to make the facility more competitive in attracting conventions and other events.

The Detroit Regional Convention Facility Authority said the extra space gives Cobo the capability to host most of the world's largest conventions.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120406/BIZ/204060336#ixzz1rEmYk5uc

animatedmartian
Apr 7, 2012, 8:32 AM
This is separate from the Meijers project (which is set to start next month).


http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20120407&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=204070336&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&Border=0&Bills-will-pave-way-development-State-Fairgrounds-site

Bills will pave way for development of State Fairgrounds site

Gov. Rick Snyder will sign bills in Detroit on Monday to allow redevelopment of the Michigan State Fairgrounds, mostly unused since the annual agricultural fair closed in 2009.

The future of the property -- 162 acres near 8 Mile and Woodward -- has been up in the air since the state fair shut down, the victim of state budget cuts. The site generated little income but costs the state nearly $895,000 a year to maintain.

Once Snyder signs the bills, the property could be sold to the city or a private developer or given to a state land bank for redevelopment. A Snyder spokesman said detailed plans for the property haven't been decided. But the city's recent consent agreement with the state -- reached this week to avoid the appointment of an emergency manager to rein in Detroit's budget crisis -- calls for the possibility of a new commuter rail stop on the grounds and an unspecified "neighborhood and commercial center on the site."

...

http://www.freep.com/article/20120407/NEWS01/204070336/Bills-will-pave-way-for-development-of-State-Fairgrounds-site

I had some good memories there...sad to see it go. :(

LMich
Apr 9, 2012, 7:11 AM
It was really cool that Michigan's state fair was right in the middle of its largest urban area. I remember seeing the "world's largest" pig. lol The thing was so obese that it couldn't stand up, really more sad than interesting.

Anyway, I remember a few years back actually seeing the conept for the area. It was in the office of a family friend or a friend, or rather to say, didn't really know the folks. Anyway, I remember it including a hotel in addition to what was mentioned. They have it planned as a TOD.