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LMich
Apr 8, 2013, 7:32 AM
I'm also just glad to see something above four floors. I vaguely remember being told by a developer that after four stories that either safety requirements change, or that cost start to go up exponentially or something. Maybe he was just pulling that out of his butt, I don't really know.

Rizzo
Apr 8, 2013, 7:49 AM
I'm also just glad to see something above four floors. I vaguely remember being told by a developer that after four stories that either safety requirements change, or that cost start to go up exponentially or something. Maybe he was just pulling that out of his butt, I don't really know.

They do. Fire ratings switch from 1 to 2 hour. There's various ways to accomplish it, but there's generally more costly construction. Sprinkler systems advance as well.

tech_bonus
Apr 8, 2013, 4:16 PM
http://imageshack.us/a/img713/4720/onekennedysquarevisionm.jpg


Can it be....?

Could ROBOCOP truly, soon follow!?

tech_bonus
Apr 8, 2013, 7:26 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have our anwer.


http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/tech_bonus/Robo_on_the_beat_zps8c07824d.jpg

Apologies guys...couldn't resist that one. :haha:

Is there an OCP entity in the D though, or was the artist having some fun?

LMich
Apr 10, 2013, 12:37 PM
Two pieces on some movement at some local institutions:

http://multimedia.detroitnews.com/pix/61/43/f0/5e/e4/08/20130409161916_4.jpg
Mike Ortiz | The Detroit News

New Hellenic Museum of Michigan adds a bit of ancient Hellas to Detroit (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130410/ENT01/304100315/New-Hellenic-Museum-Michigan-adds-bit-ancient-Hellas-Detroit?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

By Michael Hodges | The Detroit News

April 10, 2013

If everyone's a little Irish on St. Patrick's Day, then we're all part Greek the rest of the year. At least, that's what they'll tell you at Detroit's brand-new Hellenic Museum of Michigan, which will open its doors to the public Saturday.

"We want to focus on the notion that all who enter the museum are descendants of ancient Hellas," says membership secretary and board member Tony Niarhos, "whether you're Greek or not."

Saturday's opening festivities, the day before Detroit's 12th annual Greek Independence Day Parade, will include an official ribbon-cutting at the museum at 5 p.m., followed by a 6:30 p.m. gala reception to benefit the museum at the Detroit Institute of Arts.

...

To celebrate this universal heritage and to remind Metro Detroiters of the Greek-American story, as well, Hellenic museum officals say they hope to attract visitors far beyond the local Greek community, which they estimate numbers about 70,000.

"We're not just here for Greek community," says museum vice president for operations Joan De Ronne, "but to help the wider community learn about Hellenism and the history that's the bedrock of civilization."

Housed in a 1912 red brick mansion right across East Kirby from the Detroit Institute of Arts, the museum — with a total investment so far of about $2 million raised from foundations and individual donations — will add yet more oomph to the Cultural Center at the north end of Midtown, joining the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History as the district's other ethnically focused institution. With eventual plans for exhibits, lectures, films, cooking classes and music and dance performances, the Hellenic Museum will round out weekend entertainment options for the culturally inclined.

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130410&Category=NEWS05&ArtNo=304100053&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Donors-pitch-fix-last-freestanding-synagogue-Detroit
Mandi Wright | Detroit Free Press

Donors pitch in to fix last freestanding synagogue in Detroit (http://www.freep.com/article/20130410/NEWS05/304100053/Donors-pitch-in-to-fix-synagogue-in-Detroit-Isaac-Agree-Downtown-Synagogue)

The Detroit Free Press staff

April 10, 2013

Detroit's last freestanding synagogue will soon get a face-lift.

With just hours left in a fund-raising campaign, the Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue topped its $60,000 goal Tuesday. The money, plus $60,000 previously given by private donors, will fund repairs to the building on Griswold, said synagogue president Leor Barak.

Barak said the funds will pay for a new fire escape, additional bathrooms, kitchen improvements, graffiti removal and updates. It also will cover part of the cost of hiring an architectural firm to create a plan for future renovations. The building could one day house office space, a banquet and events center and a Jewish Detroit historical museum, he said.

...

Barak said the synagogue has experienced a resurgence in recent years. Today, the congregation includes nearly 300 individuals and families.

animatedmartian
Apr 10, 2013, 5:21 PM
Midtown Park Targeted For New 6-Story, 112-Unit Apt Building
April 9, 2013, by Paul Beshouri

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/StonePoolFinal.jpg

Something big is being proposed at the former Stone Pool Park on the corner of Forest Street and the Lodge Freeway in Midtown. We got this letter from a tipster in Midtown, informing neighbors that an entity called Liberty Stone LLC has submitted a proposal to purchase the park and develop its 1.94 acres into a six-story, 84,190-square-foot residential building. The development would have "ground floor commercial" with 112 housing units on the five floors above.

[....]

http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/new-122unit-apartment-building-on-top-of-stone-pool-park.php

Capitol Park Comeback: Urban Bean's Grand Re-Opening Soon
April 8, 2013, by Paul Beshouri

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/urbanbean1.jpg
Photo Credit: Michelle and Chris Gerard Photography

Dormant since 2008, Urban Bean Co. is getting ready to serve coffee once more. Even if the name doesn't ring a bell, there's a solid chance you're familiar with their building. Like an orange growth latched to the side of the Griswold Parking Structure, Urban Bean's tiny footprint and transparant facade make it one of Downtown's most intriguing storefronts. With two stories of windowed seating space, Urban Bean is completing the preparations before finally reopening the doors.

[...]

http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/urban-bean-is-back-downtown-coffee-spot-reopening-soon.php

Board OKs transfer of interest in Greektown Casino to Gilbert
APRIL 9, 2013 BY MICHAEL MARTINEZ THE DETROIT NEWS

[...]

During Tuesday's board meeting, Gilbert and Cullen presented a slide show outlining their plans for the casino and the city. Gilbert said he'd like to "enhance" what's already at Greektown and connect it to Campus Martius to create a vibrant entertainment district.

"We're not casino investors per se," Gilbert said during his presentation. "We consider ourselves city builders."

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130409/BIZ/304090398#ixzz2Q55fe246

uaarkson
Apr 10, 2013, 6:23 PM
When was the last time proposals were popping up this frequently in Detroit?

animatedmartian
Apr 10, 2013, 8:27 PM
2007 and 2008? Things really died off during the recession and it seems like it's taken at least 4 or 5 years for things to finally pick back up.

hudkina
Apr 11, 2013, 1:26 AM
What's interesting about that park location is that it is sort of out of the way from the rest of the Midtown stuff popping up. Pretty much everything else has been going up near the university or along Woodward.

LMich
Apr 11, 2013, 7:17 AM
I can't for the life of me, though, understand why the city would be selling off parkland with so much other dirt cheap, vacant land in the area for developers. It Stone Pool a public or private park?

animatedmartian
Apr 11, 2013, 3:05 PM
It's a public park. The article says that Detroit put it up for sale back in February. Right around the time that the state of Michigan proposed taking over Belle Isle and got rejected which I kinda figured was the case.

My theory is that since it's a larger contiguous lot, it's easier to sell versus the many smaller separated lots that the city owns (also the location is pretty ideal). But I dunno. The pool section of the park doesn't look too pretty on Google and I'd be surprised to see it in good condition going by there now.

animatedmartian
Apr 11, 2013, 6:43 PM
And another one.

Wayne State Plans Phase Two Of South University Village
Reporting Matt Roush. April 10, 2013. CBS Detroit.

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/wsudevesitj.jpg

DETROIT — Wayne State University is issuing a request for proposals for the development of a mixed-use project including retail, residential apartments, and an event and conference area on 1.5 acres on Canfield between Cass and Woodward avenues.

The project supports the university’s 2020 master plan by building upon the residential and commercial development in the South University Village District.

The first phase of the South University Village District, Studio One apartments and retail, was completed in 2008 and named Development of the Year by Crain’s Detroit Business. That development’s tenants include Starter’s Bar and Grill, Biggby Coffee, Fifth Third Bank and Utrechtart Art Supplies.

The anticipated second phase was delayed by economic slowdown in 2008. Today, with Midtown at 95 percent occupancy, the university expects an RFP will receive a strong response from the development community.

[...]

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/04/10/wayne-state-plans-phase-two-of-south-university-village/

animatedmartian
Apr 11, 2013, 7:09 PM
Construction update:

The Biomedical Research building up in New Center/Techtown.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2593/mbrb2.jpg

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8650/mbrb1.jpg
http://www.facilities.wayne.edu/projects/mbrb.php

And Dan Gilbert's Zsite.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6316/indexdv.jpg
http://www.bedrockmgt.com/properties/video.php?id=22

skyfan
Apr 11, 2013, 9:08 PM
What's interesting about that park location is that it is sort of out of the way from the rest of the Midtown stuff popping up. Pretty much everything else has been going up near the university or along Woodward.

I wouldn't call Forest and the Lodge out of the way. There are WSU buildings less than a block away.

hudkina
Apr 12, 2013, 4:23 AM
I'm just saying, most everything else has been along Woodward or along Cass near the University. Midtown is a small neighborhood, so everything is going to be near everything, but I'm just saying it's just off the beaten path, especially for such a large project.

Rizzo
Apr 12, 2013, 5:14 AM
I can't for the life of me, though, understand why the city would be selling off parkland with so much other dirt cheap, vacant land in the area for developers. It Stone Pool a public or private park?

Dump worthless assets. If that park has historically declined in usage, close it. Any future park should be more reasonably scaled for maximized use. "Open greenspace" has really been a reduced component in modern neighborhood parks since no really ever goes to the park to play catch or throw a football when it can be done on the street in front of their house. Urban pocket parks with smaller open spaces and bigger playgrounds and lots of places to sit tend to be the standard now. And pools are insurance and maintenance nightmares. I'm seeing increasing closure of outdoor pools and when new community centers are proposed, they are typically inside.

The park should have demoed years ago. I hope the city didn't waste a cent maintaining it. Any surrounding vacant land would be much more valuable since they are essentially greenfield sites with no existing structures.

Personally I champion cities with dense urban fabrics with parks cut out of a tight fabric. This one is on the edge with freeway ramps and service drives, and wide avenues. Those aren't acceptable edge conditions and was probably chosen at the time when the neighborhood needed a park but on the cheapest pieces of property. So it was a smart choice to close it, and best locate a better designed, more manageable park elsewhere when demand calls for it.

animatedmartian
Apr 12, 2013, 6:07 AM
Looking back on google, it looks like the apartment complex adjacent to the park has it's own playground. So in that sense, it does seem kinda redundant and unnecessary to have another playground only a few hundred feet away in a worse location.

I'm more irked by the horribly suburban garden apartments that plague the area and completely ruin the urban frabric.

LMich
Apr 12, 2013, 7:30 AM
And another one.

Wayne State Plans Phase Two Of South University Village
Reporting Matt Roush. April 10, 2013. CBS Detroit.

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/wsudevesitj.jpg

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/04/10/wayne-state-plans-phase-two-of-south-university-village/

More specifications from the story:

The site is currently a surface parking lot. The RFP calls for a building with a minimum of four stories and a maximum of seven stories that complements the surrounding environment. The guidelines also stress that the project must be pedestrian-friendly, energy efficient, and include a conference/event space for up to 300 people.

Stuff just seems to be popping up everywhere west of Woodward.

subterranean
Apr 12, 2013, 1:16 PM
2007 and 2008? Things really died off during the recession and it seems like it's taken at least 4 or 5 years for things to finally pick back up.

Since Detroit's decline, I can't recall more public and private proposals, projects, or visions actually moving forward...ever. Maybe not in sheer dollars or scale of individual projects, but more fine grained, holistic and collaborative.

I am by no means a Detroit historian, but aside from the big dollar/large scale projects over the years (COBO, RenCen, One Detroit Center, casinos and the stadia, etc.), this growth we're seeing seems so much different, like what was happening in the early days of the revitalization efforts of Pittsburgh. Maybe I'm being a little too naively positive because I've certainly seen my share of floppy times in Detroit, but I feel like we're getting close to a tipping point.

animatedmartian
Apr 13, 2013, 12:02 AM
Since Detroit's decline, I can't recall more public and private proposals, projects, or visions actually moving forward...ever. Maybe not in sheer dollars or scale of individual projects, but more fine grained, holistic and collaborative.

I am by no means a Detroit historian, but aside from the big dollar/large scale projects over the years (COBO, RenCen, One Detroit Center, casinos and the stadia, etc.), this growth we're seeing seems so much different, like what was happening in the early days of the revitalization efforts of Pittsburgh. Maybe I'm being a little too naively positive because I've certainly seen my share of floppy times in Detroit, but I feel like we're getting close to a tipping point.

Those projects were mainly for tourists and businesses. Not much, it seems, has been put into the actual livability of downtown Detroit and I think these newer projects and proposals are filling that gap.

hudkina
Apr 13, 2013, 1:07 AM
I think Midtown has already reached the tipping point as far as livability is concerned. The one major factor, is the streetcar. Once the Woodward line is built we will probably start seeing a lot more mid-rise construction filling in the gaps.

LMich
Apr 13, 2013, 1:15 AM
Developers could really only hold out for so long in an area that's had occupancy rates in rentals in the high 90's for, what, two years straight now? Any other city, and they'd have been kicking down the door putting up mid-rises, but it's good that the money can no longer deny the demand.

I think this is actually kind of a blessing in disguise, because unlike in a lot of other cities where you get a lot of speculative construction that's simply guessing at trends, this demand is already there and it is very real. It's a slower growth than what emotions might yearn for, but it's a more sustainable and easier-to-nail-down schedule of growth.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing a speculative high-rise or two, office or residential. ;) I've always thought that, for instance, whoever owns Lafayette Park, now, or Harbortown, could not go wrong in putting up another building on their properties.

animatedmartian
Apr 13, 2013, 2:04 PM
New York investor still eyeing Detroit
APRIL 12, 2013 BY LOUIS AGUILAR THE DETROIT NEWS

Detroit — The daughter of visionary urban investor Tony Goldman, who helped transform such neighborhoods as Manhattan's SoHo and Florida's South Beach, said his firm is still considering buying into Detroit's revival.

It would likely be a trademark Goldman investment: The purchase of multiple properties in a concentrated area with the intent to spark a dramatic revival. That strategy earned Tony Goldman, who died in September 2012, an international reputation as an urban pioneer. It's a practice adhered to by his daughter, Jessica Goldman Srebnick, CEO of New York's Goldman Properties, which was founded by her father.

"We are still curious, always looking for great opportunity," Goldman Srebnick said Thursday. "Detroit is intriguing." She added her firm has made "no commitments" to the city.

[...]


In late 2011, Tony Goldman told The Detroit News he was close to making a significant investment here. He seemed interested in the area around the Dequindre Cut Greenway, the former railroad line turned into a pedestrian/cycling pathway. He also had been in talks with the Kresge Foundation and investors like Gilbert.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130412/BIZ/304120346#ixzz2QLsioAvk

The Lurker
Apr 13, 2013, 3:13 PM
Wow. At this rate midtown could look like Chicago's West Loop in no time.:D Seriously though it's awesome to hear so much going on in Detroit. Welcome back.

animatedmartian
Apr 17, 2013, 1:14 AM
Took some shots of Downtown Detroit earlier today.

Hotel Ponch is coming along (I don't remember what it's name is being changed to).

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8121/8655625535_9b0c108d48_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8655705655_132ca14f22_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8655709327_c447e662fd_b.jpg

COBO so far is starting glass on the ballroom section. No visible change on any other parts yet.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8116/8656818336_c080b85d15_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8656817044_780dae7f79_b.jpg

Detroit's new Fire and Police HQ looks just about done. For such an interesting looking building, it's kinda in a remote part of downtown. Hopefully that changes in the future.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8655631435_6e803704d6_b.jpg

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Under the radar renovations on the GAR building.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8656755218_24ac15066a_b.jpg

No visible changes yet on the David Whitney Building (I think construction just recently started a few weeks ago? I'd have to check). Btw, its brother David Broderick is looking pretty nice.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8114/8656764000_2b5b5d644c_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8099/8655674433_8cfef09d2b_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/8655673217_0b3774e848_b.jpg

All David Broderick glory.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8118/8656780428_b2f38cd85c_b.jpg

Dan Gilbert's Zsite from opposite the webcam.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8117/8655680993_8546f3ce75_b.jpg

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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8126/8656787206_949fb3c9ea_b.jpg

Pretty nice and clean looking Buffalo Wild Wings.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8656796176_61c331daa1_b.jpg

And now we finally get to MIDTOWN!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8655732535_da111f4e6e_b.jpg

Progress on Woodward Gardens.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8118/8656862194_433a298c07_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8655758823_9d85210808_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8656860938_98834e8846_b.jpg

Whole Foods is just about done.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8115/8656835500_a4eedb42de_b.jpg

And some recent construction within Detroit's Medical Center.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8655749985_e32b717297_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8102/8656852210_0cfe249f73_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8655746405_003785e8ab_b.jpg

Looking good, Detroit! :cool::tup:

uaarkson
Apr 17, 2013, 1:34 AM
Awesome update!

animatedmartian
Apr 17, 2013, 4:13 AM
I took a lot of non-construction related photos as well. You can view them over here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=6094081).

subterranean
Apr 17, 2013, 12:46 PM
Thanks for the photo update!

hudkina
Apr 18, 2013, 2:35 AM
I can't wait until the Woodward Garden block is finished. I hope somebody comes along and proposes something for that lot with the one-story PNC bank.

Also, I can't remember, but are there any plans for that lot at the corner of Woodward and Willis next to the McDonald's? With the way things are going it seems that something should be proposed there any day now.;)

animatedmartian
Apr 18, 2013, 3:28 AM
I can't wait until the Woodward Garden block is finished. I hope somebody comes along and proposes something for that lot with the one-story PNC bank.

Also, I can't remember, but are there any plans for that lot at the corner of Woodward and Willis next to the McDonald's? With the way things are going it seems that something should be proposed there any day now.;)

They just recently (like last year) renovated it so it didn't look like it was built in the 80s and fit in with more contemporary designs. Unlike the Chase Bank for the Whole Foods (which is now just a couple of ATMs), I'd assume it'd be harder to move them if they've put some money into the facade.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3898/pncphoto.jpg
Source image: http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2012/10/facade-facelifts.php

Also, there was a proposal for something on that site next to the McDonalds in 2008/09. I remember seeing it on the UCCLA website before they changed it to Midtown, Inc. That rendering is not new, but rumors have it that development is coming soon which would not be surprising if it's a 2008 development that was stalled. Either way, it's good news that there will be development on that site (if it is in fact true).

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/Mcdonalds%3Abefore.jpg
http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/vacant-lot-by-midtowns-mcdonalds-may-soon-look-like-this.php

north 42
Apr 18, 2013, 1:26 PM
The ponchatrain hotel is converting to The Crown Plaza Hotel.

hudkina
Apr 18, 2013, 9:06 PM
I thought I remember hearing something about it, but since it's been so long, I just assumed it was dead. The other thing I remember was the old 13th Precinct being turned into a high-end restaurant or something. I wonder if something will ever happen there. I think that building would make for a nice art museum or something similar.

That whole side of Woodward between Mack and Warren is really starting to come together. Wayne State supposedly is looking to put a hotel/conference center at Warren and Woodward. That gas station at the corner of Woodward and Forest would make for a good midrise similar to the Fifth in Royal Oak. The McDonald's will probably stay for a while, as I'm sure it is particularly profitable. The only other glaring hole right there would be the PNC Bank. While it looks nice, I think another midrise would be perfect for that corner with the PNC maybe having space on the first floor.:)

Rizzo
Apr 19, 2013, 3:21 AM
Yeah that mobil station is awful. and would be a perfect site to develop. Can't say I'm a fan of the PNC bank staying though with all that parking still visible from woodward. Looks like they adapted it to their current freestanding prototype

http://goo.gl/maps/V67Rb

Michi
Apr 19, 2013, 1:21 PM
Also, significant to note: Doesn't Dan Gilbert have his eye on that huge, brick building on Alexandrine, west of Woodward?

Thanks for this great update! I wish I was in Detroit to regularly document all the changes. :)

animatedmartian
Apr 19, 2013, 10:50 PM
Also, significant to note: Doesn't Dan Gilbert have his eye on that huge, brick building on Alexandrine, west of Woodward?

Thanks for this great update! I wish I was in Detroit to regularly document all the changes. :)
No. His focus is generally around the CBD. There was news of some entity interested in restoring that building but that was something like a year ago. The likely scenario is that they're still in the process of trying to get financing for the project, that is, if that entity is still interested.

hudkina
Apr 19, 2013, 11:05 PM
I think the story was that the building was sold with the intent to redevelop. Nothing concrete has come up since. I don't even know if the same people own it. Granted, it will almost certainly get redeveloped once the streetcar goes in.

animatedmartian
Apr 21, 2013, 1:35 AM
Okay, so in the past few weeks, I've seen two proposals for TechTown and I'm beginning to wonder if these are for real or just for a design competition? :sly: Either way, it's the most awesome thing I've seen for Detroit.

Igniting innovation in Detroit

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/22398_1366298652_8433lFrameworkVision.jpg

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/22398_1_1366298652_3951osedCoreAreaPlan.jpg

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/22398_2_1366298652_806posedCoreAreaAxo.jpg

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/22398_3_1366298652_30865_Sustainability.jpg

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/22398_4_1366298652_7420odwardTransition.jpg

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/22398_5_1366298652_354507_CassAve.jpg

(this one was kinda funny to me)
http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/22398_6_1366298653_457108_CafeWinter.jpg

Source: http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=22398

Not Just The Motor City: Creating The Nexus For Detroit’s Techtown

http://stat2.architizer-cdn.com/mediadata/projects/072013/r990x990/016eeb29.jpg

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http://www.architizer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/06988130.jpg

Source: http://www.architizer.com/en_us/blog/dyn/82936/creating-the-nexus/#.UXM-7KKZaSq

uaarkson
Apr 21, 2013, 1:44 AM
I'm so glad to see some real, substantive ideas and proposals in Detroit. If a corner hasn't been turned, it's near.

JonathanGRR
Apr 21, 2013, 3:26 AM
Right now, at least, the Amtrak renderings were speculative design proposals as part of a general design competition. It would be fantastic to see something like that come to fruition, but that is still likely to be a ways off. These renderings are similar in purpose to the Detroit Riverfront design competition: to get discussion started.

animatedmartian
Apr 23, 2013, 12:13 AM
Additional properties change hands in Detroit's Cass Corridor
APRIL 22, 2013 BY LOUIS AGUILAR THE DETROIT NEWS

Low-income residents of three apartment buildings on Henry Street in Detroit's Cass Corridor were abruptly notified Friday the buildings are being sold and the unknown buyer wants everyone out by May 20.

Residents were still in disbelief on Monday.

"This is so wrong, it's just so wrong," said Cathy Griffeth, a resident of the Berwin apartment at 489 Henry, north of the Fisher Freeway service drive. "We had no clue this was going to happen," Griffeth said. "I'm on disability like a lot of other people who live here. Do they really think we can find some other place just like that?"

The three apartment buildings are on the 400 block of Henry, just west of Cass Avenue. In addition to the Berwin, the other two buildings are the Claridge at 459 Henry and the Bretton at 439 Henry. All are owned by Peter Mercier of Grosse Pointe Farms.


Meanwhile, around the block, two buildings near Cass Technical High School and the Masonic Temple were bought in January by entities that have created opaque paper trails. One of the buildings was a vacant nursing home on Ledyard. The other was owned by the Baptist State Convention of Michigan that was being used by Cass Park Baptist Church congregation, which has moved out. Both were sold in January, according to public records. Both purchases are linked to a limited liability company that doesn't provide a telephone number on the public document; both list a registered agent as the sole representative for the company.

The deals are similar to the nearly two dozen property deals of blighted buildings and vacant parcels that have taken place in the neighborhood since September 2008. Most sellers have signed confidentiality agreements. So far, none of the purchased properties has been renovated or put back to use.

The latest deals expand the boundaries several blocks west and south where the previous mysterious deals have taken place.

[...]



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130422/BIZ/304220419#ixzz2RExjyRBn

LMich
Apr 23, 2013, 7:33 AM
You know, folks were going to be displaced, eventually, in that area, but that is a very bad or poorly planned way to do it. They may legally be in the right by offer a thirty-day notice, but these residents should have gotten a significantly sooner heads-up given their situation, and particularly since the previous owner admits that the buildings were sold off a full year prior to this. This is an excellent example of how not to do this kind of gentrification.

subterranean
Apr 23, 2013, 1:01 PM
You know, folks were going to be displaced, eventually, in that area, but that is a very bad or poorly planned way to do it. They may legally be in the right by offer a thirty-day notice, but these residents shouldn't have gotten a significantly sooner heads-up given their situation, and particularly since the previous owner admits that the buildings were sold off a full year prior to this. This is an excellent example of how not to do this kind of gentrification.


And they certainly better not have any federal or state funds in the deal or they're going to get axed.

mousquet
Apr 23, 2013, 5:56 PM
You know, folks were going to be displaced, eventually, in that area, but that is a very bad or poorly planned way to do it. They may legally be in the right by offer a thirty-day notice, but these residents shouldn't have gotten a significantly sooner heads-up given their situation, and particularly since the previous owner admits that the buildings were sold off a full year prior to this. This is an excellent example of how not to do this kind of gentrification.
I would defend these people as well. What is done to them just seems rude. They're definitely not like the spoiled people over here enraged because they're losing a terrace with a view while a developer does the nice effort to find some decent alternative apartments for them, some right within central Paris with a great view upon the Seine river.
Geez, that's all the difference between the States and France. These in the US are rudely treated like they would be scum or something, those in France are spoiled, lazy thus selfish.

animatedmartian
Apr 23, 2013, 7:32 PM
I especially like those old school apartments, at least from the outside. I've never really been in one, but I get the feeling they're probably going to be demolished and Illitch is going to build something along the lines of an LA Live district.

30-days is no time at all especially on low-income. They should have been told the year earlier when the deal was made.

LMich
Apr 24, 2013, 7:15 AM
Yeah, on top of the short notice, these are actually pretty nice architecture, at least on the outside. I really hope the design of the district is good to go through this type of trouble to get it.

animatedmartian
Apr 24, 2013, 7:13 PM
ADP bringing 150 jobs, $3.3M investment to downtown Detroit
April 24, 2013 By Chris Gautz

An investment of $3.3 million and 150 jobs are coming to downtown Detroit, and Gov. Rick Snyder said this is just another example of a high-tech company deciding to make Detroit its home.

At today's Michigan Strategic Fund board meeting, the board approved giving ADP Dealer Services Inc. a $1.5 million Michigan Business Development performance-based grant. The city of Detroit is expected to provide a personal property tax abatement, as well.

[...]

The company will open what it calls a "digital marketing innovation center" and will be located in the Renaissance Center. ADP Dealer Services provides marketing and client services for its clients in the automotive sector. Employees will be engaged in digital marketing technology, data sciences and digital advertising.

The center will open in May, and hiring has begun, according to a statement.

Downtown Detroit was chosen over competing sites in Seattle and in Hoffman Estates, Ill., where the company is located.

[...]

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130424/NEWS/130429942/-adp-bringing-150-jobs-3-3m-investment-to-downtown-detroit

animatedmartian
Apr 24, 2013, 11:15 PM
Brewster-Douglass towers demolition plan expected within weeks
April 23, 2013 Kirk Pinho

The Brewster-Douglass towers will have to wait a little bit longer than city officials had hoped before they meet the wrecking ball.

In November, Detroit Mayor Dave Bing announced that the Detroit Housing Commission had received $6.5 million from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Capital Fund Emergency Grant Program to raze the remaining four towers of the Frederick Douglass Apartments south of Mack Avenue along Interstate 75.

[...]

Officials had hoped for demolition on the 18-acre site to begin by the end of March, but that's been delayed.

"Following a public comment period, HUD has released funds to the Detroit Housing Commission," said Karla Henderson, who is in charge of city demolition efforts as group executive for Detroit Planning and Facilities in the Bing administration, in an emailed statement. "An architectural and engineering firm has been engaged and is in the process of developing a plan. We expect to have a demolition plan in place in the coming weeks."

Anthony Neely, press secretary for Bing, told Crain's in November that a first-quarter demolition may be "an optimistic projection, but it will definitely be underway by summer."

Bing said in November that he hopes developers step in to develop the site.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130423/BLOG016/130429957/brewster-douglass-towers-demolition-plan-expected-within-weeks

LMich
Apr 25, 2013, 7:13 AM
The ADP thing has me wondering what the vacancy rate for Class A space is in downtown, now? It'd be really interesting to see what the office market looks like since the depths of the recession.

Color me surprised by the Douglass demolitions. I mean, they are saying it's delayed, but I didn't even really expect to see them demolished for years, anyway, even with Bing claiming they'd be, so this is actually kind of surprising, to me.

BTW, sure everyone saw, but the Feds gave the Woodward Streetcar it's final, formal blessing, the other day, with the issuance of the Record of Decision. Most of the key figures who will manage the project have been chosen, many bids are already out for design work and the like, and we should see shovels in the ground in just a few months.

animatedmartian
Apr 25, 2013, 8:57 AM
The ADP thing has me wondering what the vacancy rate for Class A space is in downtown, now? It'd be really interesting to see what the office market looks like since the depths of the recession.


Here ya go.

http://www.us.am.joneslanglasalle.com/Detroit/en-us/Pages/Research.aspx?

For the first quarter of 2013, class A office space vacancy is at 17%. But it's highest was 33% in 2011.

Overall, vacancy in the whole Detroit market has been going down, but is still the highest in the country.

hudkina
Apr 25, 2013, 2:01 PM
I would guess that Detroit needs to get upwards of $30 per sq. ft. before people start speculative building. Right now Class A space in downtown is going for about $23 per sq. ft. Which is comparable to a lot of other Midwestern cities and even a few Sunbelt cities.

In comparison, Seattle is at $34, Houston is at $39, Denver is at $31, etc.

animatedmartian
Apr 25, 2013, 8:18 PM
Detroit Masonic Temple makes deal to exit tax foreclosure

BY LOUIS AGUILAR THE DETROIT NEWS APRIL 25, 2013

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20130425&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=304250469&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Detroit-Masonic-Temple-makes-deal-exit-tax-foreclosure

The world's largest Masonic Temple entered an agreement Thursday with Wayne County officials to get out of tax foreclosure and Temple officials also said downtown titan Dan Gilbert is exploring the idea of investing in the historic neo-Gothic building.

The Masonic Temple Association and the Wayne County Treasurer's Office agreed on a payment plan on the $152,000 tax bill that put the property in the hands of the county treasurer. Because part of the bill dates back to 2010, the building automatically was put in foreclosure earlier this year and slated for the September public auction of tax foreclosure properties. Masonic officials made a $10,000 payment Thursday morning and have vowed to pay the entire amount by June 3.

[....]

"We are actually doing pretty good, overall," Sobran said. "We have a lot of events coming up. Interest is high," Sobran said.

That interest apparently includes Quicken Loan's founder Dan Gilbert, whose Rock Ventures entity is one of the largest private landowners of downtown buildings. They have grand designs to renovate the area. Sobran said Masonic Temple officials and representatives from Rock Ventures have had discussions about investing in the facility.

"We are open to the idea and they seemed interested," Sobran said. "But I don't know if will result into anything."

Sobran said there are other potential investors in the temple as well.

The building takes up the 500 block of Temple Street just north of downtown. It has 1,037 rooms and multiple theater and entertainment venues. It was placed on the state's Historic Registry in 1964 and the National Register of Historic Places in 1980.

[...]


From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130425/BIZ/304250469#ixzz2RVXl4yoz


Gilbert is also egging on the Piston's owner to move them downtown. Despite their lackluster season, more people would still attend the games downtown rather than drive 25 minutes out to nowheresville to see a losing team. Even if there's repetitive loss, there's bars right around the corner to wash the sorrows away (Lions fans surely have endured this). :cheers:

JonathanGRR
Apr 25, 2013, 8:27 PM
http://media.mlive.com/detroit/photo/2012/07/11343922-large.jpg
Mike Glinski

Title Source adding another 550 employees to downtown Detroit
David Muller | April 25, 2013

DETROIT, MI - Title Source announced Thursday that it is relocating another 550 employees to its headquarters in the First National Building in downtown Detroit, as it plans to hire an additional 250 people.

The company, which provides title insurance, property valuations and other real estate settlement services, said it moved 200 employees downtown Thursday and is also in the process of hiring 100 summer interns.

Last July, the company, which is a subsidiary of Dan Gilbert’s Rock Ventures, announced it was moving 1,500 employees from suburban Troy and into 330,000 square feet of space on 10 floors of the First National Building. The firm now occupies 40 percent of the building.

With the new hires, Title Source will have about 2,000 employees downtown. The company also has offices in California, Pennsylvania and Texas.
http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2013/04/title_source_moving_another_55.html#incart_flyout_business

mind field
Apr 26, 2013, 1:14 AM
Dan Gilbert says 'major' tech company announcement coming for Detroit, as he, Sue Mosey and George Jackson discuss city's future

By David Muller | dmuller@mlive.com
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on April 25, 2013 at 9:34 AM, updated April 25, 2013 at 11:08 AM

DETROIT, MI - What will Detroit look like in five years?

It is a question worth posing to people such as Dan Gilbert, Sue Mosey and George Jackson, all of whom are at the forefront of the city's redevelopment, and one that was asked to all three Thursday morning at the Detroit Athletic Club.

http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2013/04/dan_gilbert_says_major_tech_co.html

LMich
Apr 26, 2013, 7:38 AM
Here ya go.

http://www.us.am.joneslanglasalle.com/Detroit/en-us/Pages/Research.aspx?

For the first quarter of 2013, class A office space vacancy is at 17%. But it's highest was 33% in 2011.

Overall, vacancy in the whole Detroit market has been going down, but is still the highest in the country.

It still may be the highest, but the numbers you posted show the vacancy rate being cut in half in just two years or less. That's impressive. What else is pretty impressive is that vacancy is going down despite new space being added, and that downtown Detroit's market is better than quite a few other premiere suburban counterparts. Troy and Southfield continue to be hammered pretty hard all these years later.

BTW, here's the important part of the article that Mindfield posted:

"There's some major announcements coming," he said Thursday at the Michigan Chronicle's Pancakes and Politics breakfast. "There's a major technology company that's about to make an announcement here. There's a bunch more retail, major stores that are going to be announced."

Gilbert did not offer any further specifics.

hudkina
Apr 27, 2013, 12:09 AM
What's more, the vacancy rate doesn't include owner-occupied buildings, which is what the majority of Downtown office space consists of. It would be interesting to see the total picture of currently leasable space, obviously excluding the "abandoned" buildings that would be more likely to come back as residential than as office space.

LMich
Apr 29, 2013, 7:15 AM
It would be interesting to see the total picture of currently leasable space, obviously excluding the "abandoned" buildings that would be more likely to come back as residential than as office space.

Wait, isn't that what these commercial vacancy rates measure, already? I was always under the impression that they don't include owner-occupied space, and only those vacant buildings currently being marketed for move in.

subterranean
Apr 30, 2013, 12:49 PM
BTW, here's the important part of the article that Mindfield posted:

Watch it be an Apple Store.

LMich
May 1, 2013, 10:38 AM
The Archdiocese of Detroit appears to be doing a major downsizing, and will consolidate their offices in 1212 Griswold on Capitol Park:

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20130501&Category=LIFESTYLE04&ArtNo=305010365&Ref=AR&MaxW=600&Border=0

Archdiocese of Detroit sells 4 buildings, consolidates offices (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130501/LIFESTYLE04/305010365/Archdiocese-Detroit-sells-4-buildings-consolidates-offices?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p)

The Archdiocese of Detroit has announced the sale off four administrative and chancery office locations downtown and in Corktown as a part of consolidating its administrative offices into the city's Capitol Park District.

By mid-late 2014, the archdiocese will move 185 into five or six floors 1212 Griswold, reducing its space from 150,000 square-feet to no more than 50,000.

Detroit Archbishop Allen H. Vigneron told archdiocese employees it has reached an agreement on a cash sale of its Gabriel Richard Building at 305 Michigan Avenue to GRB New Detroit LLC; the archdiocesan Print Shop building at 1501 Sixth Street to a private telecommunications firm; and its Chancery Building at 1234 Washington Boulevard; and an adjacent, unoccupied two-story building to Capitol Park Partnership LLC.

...

While it's not the most notable building, I really hope the Gabriel Richard finds some tenants.

CHAPINM1
May 1, 2013, 6:33 PM
Please keep us updated about the Hotel Charlavail. Demolition is slated for May 13 if I'm not mistaken. I've seen the building is in so bad of shape that pieces of it are falling apart and onto the street below in the meantime.

animatedmartian
May 1, 2013, 11:18 PM
Please keep us updated about the Hotel Charlavail. Demolition is slated for May 13 if I'm not mistaken. I've seen the building is in so bad of shape that pieces of it are falling apart and onto the street below in the meantime.

I have a recent picture(s) of it from a couple of weeks ago. Can't really see anything from this angle, but it just looks like it's waiting to be demo'd, the poor thing.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8125/8655662089_8dcd5c89ac_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8126/8655660891_577cf1c36e_b.jpg

skyfan
May 2, 2013, 3:06 PM
The Griswold Building is going market rate

Griswold Apartments low-income housing to be redeveloped


A low-income senior living center in downtown Detroit’s Capitol Park district will be converted to market-rate apartments under the new owner’s plan.

A new partnership called 1214 Griswold Apartments LLC, created by developer Richard Broder of the Broder & Sachse real estate firm in Birmingham, recently purchased the 127-unit, 12-story residential building.

In a statement issued by a public relations firm, the partnership said current residents of the senior center were given a one-year’s notice on March 29 that their current U.S. Housing & Urban Development Section 8 rent assistance vouchers for living there would expire in one year on March 31, 2014.

Until then, the statement read, “The owners are working closely with HUD and Wingate, the property managers, to ensure all residents are fully informed of their options, the Section 8 program voucher process and available resources.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20130502/BUSINESS06/305020093/Griswold-Building-Capitol-Park-downtown-Detroit




http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130502&Category=BUSINESS06&ArtNo=305020093&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Griswold-Apartments-low-income-housing-redeveloped

hudkina
May 2, 2013, 10:53 PM
I've always loved those two buildings side by side. It will be good for Capitol Park to have the market rate apartments there.

LMich
May 3, 2013, 7:11 AM
As you saw earlier, I have empathy for those negatively affected by gentrification, but in this case, that the Griswold stayed restricted for as long as it did is a near-miracle. It's literally in the heart of the downtown area. I'd have been thankful as a resident for it to have remained a senior building for as long as it did given the location, and it sounds like they've been given appropriate notice unlike what happened on Cass - which, BTW, was updated to say that folks have been given more time to find a new place.

I love Capitol Park even in its declined state. Just imagine what it's going to look like all cleaned up. Detroit is really lucky to have squares like Campus Martius and Capitol and Harmonie and Grand Circus. The Woodward Plan really allows for some diversity in the type of neighborhoods that developed and will redevelop that a grid can't always give. I'd actually like to see the parking lands eventually developed around new squares and plazas wherever possible.

animatedmartian
May 3, 2013, 12:51 PM
Potential neighborhood investment?

RasAOy8g7ps

Found the block on Google. It's not really anything big really, (heck not really any bigger than many of the vacant lots downtown), but it is adjacent to Indian Village (which is relatively stable against the surrounding decaying neighborhoods) and is only a half mile from Jefferson and only 4 miles from Downtown.

http://goo.gl/maps/rOxG8

Trying to contain my skepticism somewhat, but could it be possible something very positive comes out of this or is it still just too soon for Detroit's neighborhoods to get some interest?

detroit_alive
May 4, 2013, 3:05 PM
Also, there was a proposal for something on that site next to the McDonalds in 2008/09. I remember seeing it on the UCCLA website before they changed it to Midtown, Inc. That rendering is not new, but rumors have it that development is coming soon which would not be surprising if it's a 2008 development that was stalled. Either way, it's good news that there will be development on that site (if it is in fact true).

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/Mcdonalds%3Abefore.jpg
http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/vacant-lot-by-midtowns-mcdonalds-may-soon-look-like-this.php

That rendering is current and the building, if I remember correctly, is nearly financed. It is not going to be residential, rather it is planned as commercial space aimed at design orientated firms.

detroit_alive
May 4, 2013, 3:08 PM
Also, significant to note: Doesn't Dan Gilbert have his eye on that huge, brick building on Alexandrine, west of Woodward?


I can't imagine so as the building you speak of is actually already owned by Midtown Inc.

LMich
May 6, 2013, 7:18 AM
Trying to contain my skepticism somewhat, but could it be possible something very positive comes out of this or is it still just too soon for Detroit's neighborhoods to get some interest?

If watched most of the video, and it simply looks like a puff piece to help this guy sell his lot. I don't see why something good couldn't come from this, but you kind of portrayed it as if there was already plans for the site. BTW, plenty of stuff is happening out of downtown. I'd posted not too long ago of a mixed-use building going up way out Mack. This isn't the stuff you're generally going to be hearing about, though.

I think some folks have this view that nothing is happening in the out-city, when I'd argue that most redevelopment happening is happening in the out-city, though, on a far smaller scale. And really, this is how it should be given that the out-city is the vast majority of the city, of course. I mean, one of the biggest untold development stories in the entire city is the revitalization of the apartment buildings around Palmer Park.

animatedmartian
May 6, 2013, 2:29 PM
If watched most of the video, and it simply looks like a puff piece to help this guy sell his lot. I don't see why something good couldn't come from this, but you kind of portrayed it as if there was already plans for the site. BTW, plenty of stuff is happening out of downtown. I'd posted not too long ago of a mixed-use building going up way out Mack. This isn't the stuff you're generally going to be hearing about, though.

I think some folks have this view that nothing is happening in the out-city, when I'd argue that most redevelopment happening is happening in the out-city, though, on a far smaller scale. And really, this is how it should be given that the out-city is the vast majority of the city, of course. I mean, one of the biggest untold development stories in the entire city is the revitalization of the apartment buildings around Palmer Park.I'm just worried the default non-downtown development is a liquor store.

Most other projects that I'm aware of are mostly low-income (supposedly mixed income) housing developments by HUD or local charities. I'd definitely agree that anything outside of the 3 mile radius of downtown is pretty underrepresented.

jodelli
May 8, 2013, 2:26 PM
Potential neighborhood investment?

RasAOy8g7ps

Found the block on Google. It's not really anything big really, (heck not really any bigger than many of the vacant lots downtown), but it is adjacent to Indian Village (which is relatively stable against the surrounding decaying neighborhoods) and is only a half mile from Jefferson and only 4 miles from Downtown.

http://goo.gl/maps/rOxG8

Trying to contain my skepticism somewhat, but could it be possible something very positive comes out of this or is it still just too soon for Detroit's neighborhoods to get some interest?

It's showing up at Kercheval and Van Dyke. I walked that section of Van Dyke down to Jefferson not too long ago and it's fairly intact. There's infill going on just to the west as well so that block is as good a place to start as any.

LMich
May 10, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jus little news on the Gateway Marketplace up at Woodward and Eight Mile. It appears Mejier will be opening in July:

Meijer to open 200th store in Flint area, to announce hiring for Detroit store (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130510/BIZ/305100312/Meijer-open-200th-store-Flint-area-announce-hiring-Detroit-store?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s)

By Karen Dybis | The Detroit News

May 10, 2013

Meijer Inc., the original superstore retailer that combined food and general merchandise under one roof, will open its 200th location next week — in the Flint area, the company said Thursday.

The Swartz Creek store, which will open Thursday, has filled all of the 200 part- and full-time jobs needed to staff the location, said company spokesman Frank Guglielmi.

Meijer also is set to announce today that it is hiring more than 400 people for its greatly anticipated Detroit store, which will open at Eight Mile and Woodward in mid to late July.

The Grand Rapids-based retailer is working with community groups to help with its hiring effort, Guglielmi said. They include Detroit Employment Solutions, Arab Community Center for Economic & Social Services (ACCESS) and churches including Second Ebenezer in Detroit.

...

LMich
May 16, 2013, 7:27 AM
Details emerging of using Cadillac Square for a summer market:

Downtown Detroit's Cadillac Square host food retail market this summer (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130515/BIZ/305150413/Downtown-Detroit-s-Cadillac-Square-host-food-retail-market-summer?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s)

By Michael Martinez | The Detroit News

May 15, 2013

Detroit — Details are starting to emerge about how downtown's Campus Martius area will be transformed into a vibrant food and retail space this summer.

According to the Campus Martius website, the park is accepting vendor applications for a food market and retail market.

Summer Time Food at Campus Martius will take place in Cadillac Square between Woodward Avenue and Bates Street. It will begin June 10 and run Mondays through Thursdays from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. until the end of August.

Vendors will be supplied with a booth, signs, advertising and refrigeration. Vendors must pay a weekly cost of $250, in addition to a $250 security deposit.

The retail market, simply called The Market, will take place every fourth Friday and Saturday in June, July and August. According to the Campus Martius website, it will "feature an area dedicated to dynamic retailers, artists, designers, crafters, vintage/antique dealers, craft-prepared food products, and distinctive apparel, home goods and accessory brands."

The Friday markets will run from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m.; the Saturday markets run from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m.

Retail booth fees vary in price from $515-$915 and applications are due May 31. A notification of acceptance will be sent out June 7.

...

It's official, Rossetti is coming back home from Southfield, and Neumann/Smith is also moving downtown from Southfield.

Southfield architects Rossetti moving downtown (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130515/BIZ/305150409/Southfield-architects-ROSSETTI-moving-downtown?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s)

by Brian J. O'Connor | The Detroit News

May 15, 2013

As previously reported in The Detroit News, ROSSETTI Architects will be moving from Southfield to downtown Detroit, setting up shop in the vacant Federal Reserve building on Fort Street. The announcement was officially made Wednesday by Rock Ventures and Bedrock Real Estate Services, two companies managing the burgeoning real estate portfolio of Quicken Loans owner Dan Gilbert.

ROSSETTI will move 60 employees into 13,000 square feet of space, occupying the building's fourth floor. The firm also will be redesigning its new home, including street-level retail space.

The original building housed the Detroit branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and was built in 1927. In 1951, an eight-story glass and marble annex designed by World Trace Center architect Minoru Yamasaki was added. In 2004, the branch moved to a new, larger space on Warren Avenue, leaving the old building vacant. It was purchased by Rock Ventures last year.

The move will mark a homecoming of sorts for ROSSETTI, which was founded in Detroit in 1969.

In a statement, president Matt Rossetti said, "There is so much energy in the city that it made perfect sense to return to our roots and come back home and seize the opportunity in Detroit."

...

Another architecture firm quitting Southfield for downtown is Neumann/Smith Architecture. The firm announced in March that it will open a design studio in one of Gilbert's downtown Woodward properties, the Wright Kay Building. Neumann/Smith plans to bring about 12 people downtown, in a move scheduled for June. The building is at the corner of Woodward and John R and was originally called the Schwankovsky Temple of Music and later the Wright Kay.

NYC2ATX
May 17, 2013, 11:16 AM
I cannot get over the rate at which companies are choosing to relocate (and relocate back) to Downtown Detroit, especially having several coming from the suburbs they ran away to when the city was going to shit. The resurgence of the downtown core is reaching a fever pitch, and I couldn't be more excited.

animatedmartian
May 18, 2013, 8:28 PM
Update on the Zsite.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/85/indexmkp.jpg
http://www.bedrockmgt.com/properties/video.php?id=22

Rizzo
May 19, 2013, 11:19 PM
I cannot get over the rate at which companies are choosing to relocate (and relocate back) to Downtown Detroit, especially having several coming from the suburbs they ran away to when the city was going to shit. The resurgence of the downtown core is reaching a fever pitch, and I couldn't be more excited.

It's something I've long awaited for. When I lived in Michigan I told countless people Detroit would be on the upswing with companies moving downtown...it was only a matter of time. That was 2002, and people laughed a bit. Well 10 years later, look at the pace at which things are happening. I believe there's a ton of pent up demand for some big projects. Detroit has to be ready for an apartment tower by now. I know so many folks that want to move into the city but they can't find a place that's newly built.

montréaliste
May 20, 2013, 12:02 AM
Downtown Detroit per se has so much potential, a ton of older quality highrises of many eras. I am pretty happy to see all that is happening there right now. We would like the neighborhoods to pick up, but if downtown and midtown New Center gather steam, it will start happening in the outliers anyway.

animatedmartian
May 20, 2013, 7:38 PM
Livernois Avenue in the fast lane for $1.7 million face-lift
May 20, 2013
By Amy Haimerl

The buildings are low slung and filled with collision centers and cash-checking centers separated by wide swaths of parking. The sun beats down on the pavement, leaving little relief for pedestrians walking along Livernois Avenue.

As they approach Seven Mile, the environment changes. Sun dapples through tree leaves. A stretch of brick storefronts appear and customers step out of barber shops, restaurants and ladies' boutiques.

This is the Avenue of Fashion, once the Rodeo Drive of Detroit shopping. Charlie Sanders, the Detroit Lions' Pro Football Hall of Fame tight end, bought his first suit on this stretch of Livernois between Six and Eight Mile roads. And the players were known to frequent the strip with Marvin Gaye and Aretha Franklin. The district suffered since then, like much of Detroit, but investment dollars are starting to flow back.

Today, the Detroit Economic Growth Corp. is announcing a $200,000 prize from ArtPlace, a national group of nonprofits and banks -- including the Ford Foundation and Chase bank -- to install art in the vacant storefronts and medians along Livernois Avenue from Seven Mile to West Outer Drive. The project was one of 54 projects selected out of 1,200 proposals.

....
That $200,000 is just the beginning of bigger funding for Livernois Avenue. Approximately $1.5 million will be flowing to the area for streetscaping projects along the 2.8-mile stretch from the Lodge freeway and Eight Mile. The money is a matching deal between the federal government ($975,000) and the DEGC and other partner organizations ($525,000), and will be used for landscaping in the medians and pedestrian-safety improvements. The project will start next spring.

The DEGC is also working with its partners to secure additional funding for a second phase that would include new sidewalks, lighting, bike lanes and other amenities.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130520/NEWS/305199971/livernois-avenue-in-the-fast-lane-for-1-7m-face-lift

A video by Model D was made for Avenue of Fashion a few months ago. $2 million dollars is really going to improve this area.

55788340

animatedmartian
May 20, 2013, 10:54 PM
Also, by the way, the Crown Plaza opens May 30th (10 days from today).

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LMich
May 21, 2013, 7:41 AM
I really like the Avenue of Fashion. I never saw it in its heyday, but it's at least one area where the surrounding neighborhood didn't let it go completely to hell like so many of the commercial areas outside the core. Some photos of the area by Marvin Shaouni (http://modeldmedia.com/features/livernois611.aspx) for a Model D story back in 2011:

http://modeldmedia.com/Images/Features/Issue%20285/avenue-of-fashion-8135.jpg
Marvin Shaouni

http://modeldmedia.com/Images/Features/Issue%20285/avenue-of-fashion-8012.jpg
Marvin Shaouni

http://modeldmedia.com/Images/Features/Issue%20285/avenue-of-fashion-8108.jpg
Marvin Shaouni

LMich
May 23, 2013, 1:20 PM
Update on Capitol Park:

Big plans are in the works for a tiny Capitol Park in downtown Detroit (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130523/BIZ/305230022/Big-plans-works-tiny-Capitol-Park-downtown-Detroit?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

By Louis Aguilar | The Detroit News

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20130523&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=305230022&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Big-plans-works-tiny-Capitol-Park-downtown-Detroit
The former United Way building at 1214 Griswold was bought earlier this year. The state approved a $6 million loan for the historic building. (Steve Perez/The Detroit News)

May 23, 2013

Detroit Capitol Park, site of Michigan’s first Capitol building and more recently where people wait for the bus, is a major front in the block-by-block battle to gentrify downtown.

Investments likely to top $100 million, including taxpayer money, are beginning to be poured into this small triangular patch tucked between Woodward Avenue and Washington Boulevard. Bounded by Shelby, Griswold and State streets, the area is ragged, but big change is on the way.

On Wednesday, the state approved a $6 million loan forthe former United Way building, one of three historic buildings targeted in an $85 million redevelopment plan. Another building, an Albert Kahn-designed gem, was sold earlier this year, with the new owners moving to boot low-income seniors out of their homes to make way for upscale residents. Another Capitol Park building is under contract for sale, and the College for Creative Studies and Cranbrook Academy of Artare exploring ways to create a permanent presence for international and local artists.

“Capitol Park is envisioned to be the center of a new arts district with galleries and cafes on the ground floors and residential apartments above,” according to “A Placemaking Vision for Downtown Detroit,” the big plan unveiled recently by Quicken Loans Inc., founder Dan Gilbert and other downtown leaders to dramatically overhaul the city’s central business district.

...

Some of it will start soon. Renovations on two buildings that are part of an $85 million development plan should start this summer. The two buildings are the former United Way Building at 1212 Griswold St. and the Capitol Park Building at 1145 Griswold St. Last year, Lansing’s Karp and Associates won the rights to renovate three buildings owned by a consortium of government and non-profit agencies.

“Things indeed are moving forward in Capitol Park,” developer Richard Karp said in an email sent to the Detroit News. “Our first major tenant, the Archdiocese of Detroit, has announced they will be occupying the lower level and first five floors of 1212 Griswold,” he wrote. Floors six through 13 will contain 56 “high-end, market-rate loft apartments” in the 101,000-square-foot building, Karp said. Work at 1145 Griswold will start this summer to convert the 11-story, 68,000-square-foot building into mixed-used retail and housing.

...

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20130523&Category=BIZ&ArtNo=305230022&Ref=V1&MaxW=600&Border=0

north 42
May 24, 2013, 1:09 PM
Now if someone would just buy and renovate the Book Building, I'd be happy!

animatedmartian
May 28, 2013, 6:38 PM
New York developers have eye to buy Belle Isle
Sale is question mark, but real estate market is hot
Hank Winchester, Local 4 Reporter May 27 2013

Detroit's Belle Isle is not for sale, but New York developers are considering a plan to make a major investment in the island park if they could buy it.

Hot on the heels of reports that the art collection at the Detroit Institute of Arts might be targeted for sale if the financially-strapped city is forced into bankruptcy, sources are reporting that developers are working to put together a plan for condos and hotels on Belle Isle, if the city would sell it.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/new-york-developers-have-eye-to-buy-belle-isle/-/1719418/20322314/-/bwlu92/-/index.html

Developers really just love those undeveloped islands.

bigboy
May 28, 2013, 7:32 PM
That sucks but its the reality of the situation. I think Orr should ask the Feds for a bail out. I'm sure it has a very high chance of falling on deaf ears but it couldn't hurt. After all they gave NYC one in the 70's i believe when it was in trouble. As for the Plan id rather it stay a park in the event that Detroit comes back and population swells to around 2 million again it would be great to have an oasis of nature so close to the core of the city. But since that's at least decades away, I would support the mixed development of Belle Isle so long as it makes a valiant effort to promote and preserve the nature of the Island.

LMich
May 29, 2013, 7:10 AM
New York developers have eye to buy Belle Isle
Sale is question mark, but real estate market is hot
Hank Winchester, Local 4 Reporter May 27 2013


http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/new-york-developers-have-eye-to-buy-belle-isle/-/1719418/20322314/-/bwlu92/-/index.html

Developers really just love those undeveloped islands.

I was hoping this was something from The Onion. This is absolutely insane, and it's never going to happen, so it's not even worth freaking out over. The island is still heavily used; this idea that even if it were that it'd justify developing it is just plain silly.

I always have to laugh a little when I hear folks speak about the island in the same way they speak about a legitimate Detroit ruin. If they know anything about the current state of the island, they would know that if anything, there has been a movement over the last decade or so to reduce the amount of cars on the island given how busy and rowdy it can get on warm nights. There are certainly things on the island that need to either be improved/restored or demolished, but this view of the island as some ghosttown ruin shows someone that hasn't been to the place. Parts of Belle Isle need some TLC, but Belle Isle is not even close to becoming a ruin.

Honestly, you toll the bridge (for cars - pedestrians should be able to get in for free), and the problems are solved, and that's what is going to end up happening.

llamaorama
May 31, 2013, 5:43 PM
Would the park still be open to the public or turned into a gated community?

It's like a microcosm of this country nowadays- it can't get its basic shit in order so it cuts the 1 or 2 nice things that average people can enjoy. We are still royally fucked, only now its even more painful.

God forbid public money is used to incentivize healthy activities and socialization. Beaches are for staring at from a condo window. Poor people are supposed to sit inside and watch Divorce Court while feeding their kids McDonald's 5 nights a week.

I'm so glad I don't have to live in Detroit. No wonder people would rather pack up and live in Austin or Denver even if they remained unemployed, while businesses know it will always be cheaper to operate out of Texas or North Carolina.

animatedmartian
May 31, 2013, 7:08 PM
Work has started on the Globe Trade Building.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/44e3b591a0cb5fe3ded58ed2729c1475/tumblr_mnn3vwh0B01qgnmqro1_1280.jpg
http://thenormal-detroit.tumblr.com/post/51770228186/demolition-day

animatedmartian
May 31, 2013, 10:59 PM
It's like a microcosm of this country nowadays- it can't get its basic shit in order so it cuts the 1 or 2 nice things that average people can enjoy. We are still royally fucked, only now its even more painful.

I've literally been laughing but I don't know if I'm more sad or confused. I'm sure this doesn't happen anywhere else....right?

Detroit's Famously Decaying Old Train Station Has 5 New Windows and No One Knows Why

MARK BYRNES 3:05 PM ET

Perhaps no building is seen as a symbol of Detroit's struggles as much as Michigan Central Station. The face of American ruin porn, its 18-story tower makes the hollowed-out, decrepit former train station easy to find throughout the city. So some recent, and very minor, additions have locals curious.

Hollowed out and window-free for years, there are now five, yes just five, brand new windows that have been reinstalled in 2013 so far. Windows one, two and three even garnered the attention of the local media in February and March.

Often thought of as being abandoned, the building is in fact owned by the locally powerful Moroun family, which includes billionaire and Ambassador Bridge owner Matty Moroun.

Halfway through the year, no one inside Detroit's city hall seems to know what the idea is behind these sporadic new window installations. "We've asked questions, but we've received no specific answers," says Detroit's director of city planning, Marcell Todd.

[...]

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9461/detroit1x.jpg
Image by Mark Byrnes

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2013/05/detroits-famously-decaying-train-station-has-5-new-windows-and-no-one-knows-why/5766/

hudkina
Jun 1, 2013, 9:03 PM
So wait... Are they tearing the Globe Trading Company building down in that picture? I thought this was a renovation with an addition.

animatedmartian
Jun 2, 2013, 2:43 AM
So wait... Are they tearing the Globe Trading Company building down in that picture? I thought this was a renovation with an addition.

Only half of it is being torn down with the rest of it being gutted and renovated.

Floor Plans. (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/globe_floor_plan_422876_7.pdf)

LMich
Jun 3, 2013, 7:18 AM
Halfway through the year, no one inside Detroit's city hall seems to know what the idea is behind these sporadic new window installations. "We've asked questions, but we've received no specific answers," says Detroit's director of city planning, Marcell Todd.

That is such a Matty Moroun thing to do, the spiteful, imperious little jerk. lol

Switching gears, a piece on the changing retail landscape of the city with chains coming back, and a piece on the renovation of the GAR.

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130602&Category=BUSINESS06&ArtNo=306020054&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Meijer-opens-late-July-new-groceries-Detroit-about-more-than-Whole-Foods
A new Meijer store, the first in the city, is being built at 8 Mile Road and Woodward Avenue in Detroit, on Thursday. It's to employ 500 people and encompass 190,000 square feet of space. / Kimberly P. Mitchell/Detroit Free Press

Meijer opens late July, new groceries in Detroit about more than Whole Foods (http://www.freep.com/article/20130602/BUSINESS06/306020054/meijers-whole-foods-building-michigan)

By John Gallagher | Detroit Free Press

June 2, 2013

The new Whole Foods store opening Wednesday in Midtown Detroit won’t be the only new grocery to arrive on the scene this year.

A new full-sized Meijer store will open in late July in the new Gateway shopping center near 8 Mile and Woodward. The opening will mark the first Meijer store within the city of Detroit, employing more than 500 workers and encompassing some 190,000 square feet of space, making it a full Meijer Supercenter.

But even that won’t stop the influx of new offerings. Meijer also controls the site of the former Redford High School in northwest Detroit and may be building there in the next couple of years, although Meijer spokesman Frank Guglielmi said there’s no announcement yet about that site.

“It's prepped for a store but our focus is on 8 Mile right now,” he said last week in an e-mail to the Free Press.

And the popular suburban grocery Papa Joe’s will open a full-service market next year in the first-floor space in the First National Building, one of the many downtown properties owned and being revitalized by Quicken Loans founder and Chairman Dan Gilbert in the central business district.

The Papa Joe’s store is now in the design and construction stage and is expected to open early next year, offering a full bar, wine system, prepared foods, outdoor seating and more.

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http://multimedia.detroitnews.com/pix/5e/56/5a/fd/c1/a8/20130524154842_2012-1103-ad-GARbuilding111.jpg
A flag flies atop the G.A.R. Memorial Hall on the corner of Cass and Grand River in Detroit. The turn-of-the-century building was designed as a club for members of the Grand Army of the Republic, composed of Union veterans of the Civil War. (Ankur Dholakia/The Detroit News)

Dusting off Detroit's grand old castle (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130602/METRO/306020301/Dusting-off-Detroit-s-grand-old-castle?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p)

By Bill Loomis | The Detroit News

June 2, 2013

A couple things stand out about the unique building called the G.A.R. Memorial Hall that stands alone on Grand River at Cass and Adams in Detroit.

The most obvious is that it looks like a sandstone castle, complete with turreted towers and narrow fortress-like windows. It also is restricted to a tiny triangular cement island lot on the northwest side of downtown, as if set aside for something. At four stories high, it's too tall to be a Victorian house, too small to be an office building. Since 1982, commuters have driven by its boarded-up windows.

But lately, there's new life in the old towers: an American flag now flies from one of the turrets; the plywood that covered the windows has been replaced with plate glass; there is a new roof, and temporary fencing now surrounds the ground floor.

These changes are due to new owners: two brothers, Tom and David Carleton, and their friend Sean Emery, all three of them partners in Mindfield, a media production company located in downtown Detroit.

The three plan to take the G.A.R. building's top floor for Mindfield offices, rent out the two middle floors, and turn the ground floor into two restaurants.

...

Kind off topic, but I see that played the documentary Detropia on PBS all weekend. I hadn't seen in when it came out last year. Anyway, interesting piece of work, and not really sure how I felt about it. It got a lot of positive critiques when it hit the scene, but the way it was shot, it almost felt as if I was watching fiction.

LMich
Jun 3, 2013, 12:02 PM
There is a speculative piece (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130603/AUTO0101/306030321/Factors-favor-Michigan-Chrysler-Fiat-HQ-after-merger?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE) in todays News that said it's likely that whenever Fiat finally gets the rest of Chrysler, that the combined headquarters of the new merged company will be based somewhere in Metro Detroit, while they'll keep whatever other facilities they have in Turin (R&D and such). Turin, of course, is really worried about this. It's also being assumed that the new company will have Chrysler in the name.

It's really strange for Detroit to be in this position since they've usually been on the other end of moves of headquarters in recent decades.

animatedmartian
Jun 3, 2013, 1:52 PM
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8138/60444112.jpg

Wayne County in talks to scrap partially built jail in Detroit
$100M, 5 floors into project, county may take state up on offer for Mound site

NOLAN FINLEY, JUNE 3, 2013

Wayne County is working on a deal with the state to bail itself out of its wildly over-budget new jail project and instead take over and renovate a state prison in Detroit.

The jail construction on the northeast side of downtown is already well under way, with parts of five floors built and five new cells being completed every day. The county has spent well over $100 million to this point.

But cost overruns threaten to add $65 million to $100 million to the approved price tag of $200 million, and Wayne County doesn't have that money. The county has asked its architects for a new design that would reduce capacity to 2,000 beds from 2,192 to shave costs.

"They're in way over their heads," a high-ranking source in the Snyder administration told me Sunday. Wayne County Executive Robert Ficano declined to comment.

So the state is offering up its abandoned Mound Road prison in northeast Detroit, where the city of Detroit is also building a new detention center for prisoners.

The hope is that Mound Road could be renovated and built out for an amount that would allow the county to stay within the $200 million bond issue it sold to fund a new jail. The county commission authorized up to $300 million in bonds for the project, but the state has no confidence that the county, with a $125 million budget deficit, can repay that much.

[...]



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130603/OPINION03/306030325#ixzz2VA0kvZpY

Also Livernois is gaining some nice momentum for it's own area.

Detroit Lion Ron Bartell plans new Kuzzo's restaurant as part of Livernois revitalization

Amy Haimerl
May 31, 2013

On the field, you know him as Detroit Lion No. 31. Off the field, Ron Bartell is the latest small-business owner to invest in the Avenue of Fashion, that strip of Livernois Avenue spanning McNichols and Eight Mile roads.

Bartell, who grew up in the area, is opening Kuzzo's Chicken & Waffles at 19345 Livernois Ave., one of the five properties he purchased last year along Livernois Avenue at West Outer Drive.

"With a little bit of work, this area could be a real gem for the city," Bartell said. "Downtown and Midtown feel vibrant with people walking around, boutiques, restaurants. Livernois could have the same type of feel."

Bartell will be developing the other properties for retail or pop-ups, but that effort is further away. His first focus is Kuzzo's, on which he anticipates spending $500,000 between buying the property and build-out. He is seeking financing but is prepared to spend his own money. "It's always better to spend someone else's," he joked.

Construction should start soon, and Bartell hopes to open Kuzzo's by late summer or early fall. An outdoor patio – in the vacant lot next door – will come next spring.

[...]

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130531/BLOG017/130539964/detroit-lion-ron-bartell-plans-new-kuzzos-restaurant-as-part-of

LMich
Jun 4, 2013, 7:26 AM
What else I found interesting from the article on Livernois:

And the Avenue of Fashion is truly all in the Bartell family. When Bartell looks across the street from his new storefront, he can spot both of his uncles' shops. Rufus Bartell, who is mentoring nephew Ron in the endeavor, owns SimplyCasual; Algernon Bartell opened Times Square Men's Clothing in 2010.

I know I already said this, but the redevelopment of Livernois has got to be one of my favorite commercial revitalizations in the city.

Rizzo
Jun 4, 2013, 11:28 PM
Actually I got word that most of Globe trading company is coming down. No wall will be left untouched. Even the part that's being retained will have a whole story lopped off the top. So the building will be pretty much unrecognizable with the identifying facades being totally removed.

I'm happy something is being done that will put that spot to use, but from a preservation standpoint the building is a total loss. No one can completely cut off the streetwall sides of the building and call it "saved" They basically are stripping the building and exposing the guts.

animatedmartian
Jun 4, 2013, 11:52 PM
Personally, I'm not too attached to it. It was a common industrial building but didn't really have the layout that would have made it a successful loft. My concerns are really more on when is someone finally going to take interest and develop the area around it. That whole area south of Jefferson ought to be the most valuable real estate near to downtown.

subterranean
Jun 5, 2013, 12:02 AM
Mystery solved: Jack White paid Masonic Temple back taxes, theater to be renamed


The anonymous benefactor who recently paid the entire $142,000 balance in taxes to prevent Detroit’s Masonic Temple from falling into foreclosure was revealed today to be musician Jack White.

Free Press (http://www.freep.com/article/20130604/BUSINESS06/306040092/Masonic-Temple-Jack-White-Detroit)

animatedmartian
Jun 5, 2013, 12:08 AM
The Zsite is surprisingly way taller than it looked in the renderings.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8786/indexcfmfuseactionwebca.jpg
http://www.bedrockmgt.com/properties/video.php?id=22

Rizzo
Jun 5, 2013, 12:10 AM
Personally, I'm not too attached to it. It was a common industrial building but didn't really have the layout that would have made it a successful loft. My concerns are really more on when is someone finally going to take interest and develop the area around it. That whole area south of Jefferson ought to be the most valuable real estate near to downtown.

I realize that's your opinion, but this building had important national significance. So much so that it was placed on the national register. While on the register, it's not a landmark and there wasn't much that could be done to retain its character. It's far from common in Detroit. This is one of the few remaining Pre-Kahn factories. Majority of buildings like it are in disrepair and in a bad location for any sort of salvage efforts. The Globe had the best shot.

I'm not criticizing the fact that something wonderful is moving to this building. Just surprised when I did a recent google search that with each revision of the building concept, more pieces were lost. Maybe the original version of this was too ambitious and cost cutting was inevitable. I don't know. I just feel a bit misled that one of my favorite buildings in Detroit is basically going to be the leftover scraps of the original architectural creation.

LMich
Jun 5, 2013, 7:17 AM
The Zsite is surprisingly way taller than it looked in the renderings.

Given that this is basically a glorified parking garage, and in a human-scaled area of downtown, no less, I'm not sure if that's a good thing. lol

BTW, Crain's is reporting that Tom Gores wants to bring his private equity firm, downtown. They are saying 500 workers. Interesting to see what building they choose. Given how many buildings Gilbert owns downtown, it wouldn't be surprising if they moved into one of Bedrock's.

animatedmartian
Jun 5, 2013, 8:40 AM
Given that this is basically a glorified parking garage, and in a human-scaled area of downtown, no less, I'm not sure if that's a good thing. lol


On the one hand, I like that it fills up the space. Height is better than a parking lot.

On the other hand, it's still a parking garage. So pretty much a 3D version of a parking lot.

On the bright side, nothing was demolished in order to build it and it isn't at least completely butt-ugly. I'll probably go down there eventually this week and take some pictures to see what it looks like from the other side.

LMich
Jun 5, 2013, 9:30 AM
Yeah, I'd like to see some views of construction from Broadway to see how it fits into the streetwall.

BTW, do you know the architect and general contractor/construction company on this one?