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animatedmartian
Jun 5, 2013, 9:42 PM
http://www.quickenloans.com/press-room/2012/rock-ventures-to-break-ground-on-33000-square-foot-specialty-retail-development-with-10-story-parking-garage-in-downtown-detroit

Bedrock Real Estate Services LLC, Rock Ventures’ full-service real estate firm and developer for the project, will be responsible for managing the property and leasing the retail space. Bedrock is working with Michigan-based Neumann/Smith Architecture and parking consultants Rich and Associates Inc. to design the structure. Colasanti Construction Services Inc./Sachse Construction, a joint venture, are the construction managers for the project.

The architecture company also did One Kennedy Square as well as a few other parking garages around town. They've actually done a whole lot of projects in and around Southeast Michigan. I'm pleasantly surprised.

Rizzo
Jun 6, 2013, 3:39 AM
One good thing is it will have retail. I'm confident Gilbert will get those spaces filled and that will definitely help surrounding spaces.

LMich
Jun 6, 2013, 7:30 AM
http://www.quickenloans.com/press-room/2012/rock-ventures-to-break-ground-on-33000-square-foot-specialty-retail-development-with-10-story-parking-garage-in-downtown-detroit

Thanks for finding that. Yep, I'm familiar with Neumann Smith and Rich & Associates. I like that they are using local talent. That said, I wouldn't be bragging about One Kennedy Square. It's easily the cheapest looking thing on Campus Martius, and the proportions are all wrong. I'd actually have liked if they'd just put up a plain, curtain-glass box at the site if I knew it would turn out looking like it did.

Tough critic, I know. :) Detroit just deserves so much better than this childish, Lego-looking architecture it's gotten during the last ten years.

animatedmartian
Jun 6, 2013, 8:58 AM
Thanks for finding that. Yep, I'm familiar with Neumann Smith and Rich & Associates. I like that they are using local talent. That said, I wouldn't be bragging about One Kennedy Square. It's easily the cheapest looking thing on Campus Martius, and the proportions are all wrong. I'd actually have liked if they'd just put up a plain, curtain-glass box at the site if I knew it would turn out looking like it did.

Tough critic, I know. :) Detroit just deserves so much better than this childish, Lego-looking architecture it's gotten during the last ten years.

I guess I'll hold the unpopular opinion and say that I like 1KS. :D I wish it was taller though, but from what I read, it was pretty much like the Hudson's site in that there was already an underground parking garage that limited its height.

And actually, I was going to enter a design into Dan Gilbert's design competition based on Legos. :haha: But I think it ended up not looking like legos and I had missed the deadline anyway so oh well.

Speaking of the competition, I believe they're showing the submitted proposals this weekend so it'd be really interesting to see what ideas came up. I also wonder how much of it might influence the final design since Gilbert supposed already has a design in mind. I'm really really hoping it doesn't look to bad (if that $75 million dollars is really the final estimated amount of money being invested into it). If anything needs to be architecturally significant, it needs to be that site.

Rizzo
Jun 6, 2013, 2:00 PM
I think 1KS is superb for a spec build. I even like the bold green. The notches really soften the building to the site and sloped roof helps to create this beautiful urban vignette when looking up at the Penobscot. A couple more floors would have helped proportionally, but the views from the park of it are quite nice. Plus the base is pretty dramatic.

subterranean
Jun 6, 2013, 3:31 PM
I think 1KS is superb for a spec build. I even like the bold green. The notches really soften the building to the site and sloped roof helps to create this beautiful urban vignette when looking up at the Penobscot. A couple more floors would have helped proportionally, but the views from the park of it are quite nice. Plus the base is pretty dramatic.

I like the front, but the other three sides are completely soulless. I even don't mind the height. I think anything too large would have given CMP an uneasiness about it with a looming tower. It's a small space. My 2 cents.

LMich
Jun 7, 2013, 7:16 AM
Accounting firm Plante Moran is opening an office in Detroit proper at One Campus Martius (Compuware):

http://imgick.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width620/img/detroit/photo/288447-mmmain.jpg
The Compuware building overlooks Campus Martius in downtown Detroit (Jonathan Oosting | MLive.com)

Plante Moran to open office in downtown Detroit’s Compuware Building
(http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2013/06/plante_moran_to_open_office_in.html#incart_more_business)

By David Muller | MLive.com

June 6, 2013

DETROIT, MI - Southfield-based accounting firm Plant Moran announced Thursday that it is opening an office in the Compuware Building, at 1 Campus Martius in downtown Detroit.

About 75 employees will be based at the 15,000-square-foot Detroit office, which is on the third floor of the 16-story building.

"Coupled with our nearly 10 percent growth in staff in southeast Michigan in the last 15 months and our need for more office space, it just makes sense to open our next office in downtown Detroit,” Gordon Krater, the firm’s managing partner, said in a statement. “It will also help us better attract professionals who want to be part of the urban work environment as we continue to expand our team."

Being in Detroit’s urban core has been a big reason for some companies to not only open offices in the city’s downtown, but also for some to ultimately move their headquarters there from the suburbs, not the least of which includes Campbell Ewald.

...

animatedmartian
Jun 7, 2013, 10:14 AM
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animatedmartian
Jun 8, 2013, 10:25 PM
Whole Foods had its grand opening in Midtown earlier this week. A lot of people seem pretty jovial about it. Who knows, maybe it is the start of a rapid gentrification of Midtown. We'll see...

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The North One
Jun 8, 2013, 10:39 PM
Awesome! I hope it does really well.

DKNewYork
Jun 9, 2013, 3:55 PM
That sucks but its the reality of the situation. I think Orr should ask the Feds for a bail out. I'm sure it has a very high chance of falling on deaf ears but it couldn't hurt. After all they gave NYC one in the 70's i believe when it was in trouble. As for the Plan id rather it stay a park in the event that Detroit comes back and population swells to around 2 million again it would be great to have an oasis of nature so close to the core of the city. But since that's at least decades away, I would support the mixed development of Belle Isle so long as it makes a valiant effort to promote and preserve the nature of the Island.

I can assure you: New York did not get a Federal bailout in the 70s. That's when the Post ran the famous headline "Ford to city: Drop Dead." This is my first post here. I live in NYC but grew up in Pittsburgh, and have used this site for years to check up on Pgh. My partner is from Southfield and have read the Detroit thread for a while. Good luck with things---looks like Gilbert and (eventually) others could jump start some big things there. And I hope that Orr can do what is necessary without gutting the city more...or selling off the treasures in the DIA. Just know that there are a lot of people all around the country pulling for Detroit to bounce back.

hudkina
Jun 9, 2013, 8:10 PM
From what I understand, the DIA, Zoo, and other city-owned institutions are safe from liquidation in the event of a municipal bankruptcy. It's not like a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, where basically everything is liquidated to pay off the creditors.

LMich
Jun 10, 2013, 7:53 AM
Anyone here about how the contest for the Hudson's block turned out? I think I saw something in the News that kind of described the event, but I was surprised nothing was described or photographed for the paper.

bigboy
Jun 10, 2013, 7:55 AM
That sucks but its the reality of the situation. I think Orr should ask the Feds for a bail out. I'm sure it has a very high chance of falling on deaf ears but it couldn't hurt. After all they gave NYC one in the 70's i believe when it was in trouble. As for the Plan id rather it stay a park in the event that Detroit comes back and population swells to around 2 million again it would be great to have an oasis of nature so close to the core of the city. But since that's at least decades away, I would support the mixed development of Belle Isle so long as it makes a valiant effort to promote and preserve the nature of the Island.

I can assure you: New York did not get a Federal bailout in the 70s. That's when the Post ran the famous headline "Ford to city: Drop Dead." This is my first post here. I live in NYC but grew up in Pittsburgh, and have used this site for years to check up on Pgh. My partner is from Southfield and have read the Detroit thread for a while. Good luck with things---looks like Gilbert and (eventually) others could jump start some big things there. And I hope that Orr can do what is necessary without gutting the city more...or selling off the treasures in the DIA. Just know that there are a lot of people all around the country pulling for Detroit to bounce back.




http://www.propublica.org/special/government-bailouts

New york did get a bailout check your facts

LMich
Jun 10, 2013, 8:26 AM
Looks like local leaders are lining up behind bringing I-375 to the surface, reconnecting downtown with Lafeyette Park:

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130609&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=306090092&Ref=V1&MaxW=300&Border=0&Downtown-Detroit-s-375-could-transformed-surface-street

Downtown Detroit's I-375 could be transformed to surface street (http://www.freep.com/article/20130609/NEWS01/306090092/Downtown-Detroit-s-375-could-transformed-surface-street)

By Marlon A. Walker | Detroit Free Press

June 9, 2013

...

I-375 could disappear and be replaced with a surface street, essentially closing the gap that currently divides downtown from its residential neighbors to the east.

The idea is one of several being discussed by stakeholders from downtown businesses. Much of the mile-long I-375, which is nearly 50 years old, is outdated and in need of repair. Several business leaders met in April to discuss the possible landscape change.

“I think we all know or are aware of the fact that the freeway is not in great condition,” said Faye Nelson, president and CEO of the Detroit RiverFront Conservancy. “If something were to occur in terms of changes, this is the right time.”

Nelson joined forces with George W. Jackson Jr., president and CEO of the Detroit Economic Growth Corp., and went to the Michigan Department of Transportation with the idea to open the floor for suggestions on the face of the corridor going forward, as Detroit continues to realize a downtown revitalization. She said rethinking I-375 now for businesses and residents could add to the “quality of life and the potential for economic development.”

“As it exists, 375 represents a barrier,” Nelson said. “It separates the community east and west of Jefferson. We are really looking to gather with our chief stakeholders to have a conversation on whether this is the right time to evaluate 375, and what is the best approach to take with respect to this issue. Hopefully, we can come up with a solution on whether there will be any changes to the freeway, what they are, how they will be funded.”

...

animatedmartian
Jun 10, 2013, 9:33 AM
Anyone here about how the contest for the Hudson's block turned out? I think I saw something in the News that kind of described the event, but I was surprised nothing was described or photographed for the paper.

There's a few photo's on the facebook page, though no clear view of any of the renderings.

The awards will be announced tomorrow (June 11th) so presumably that's when the designs will be released and ready for view on the internet and such. This is about the closest teaser we'll get until then.

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/7779/46367954039223602416916.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=540392236024169&set=a.132967833433280.24554.130893610307369&type=1&relevant_count=1

http://imageshack.us/a/img94/9629/94290054112269595112336.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=541122695951123&set=a.132967833433280.24554.130893610307369&type=1&relevant_count=1

http://imageshack.us/a/img90/175/96701354070864265919517.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=540708642659195&set=a.132967833433280.24554.130893610307369&type=1&relevant_count=1

animatedmartian
Jun 11, 2013, 1:56 PM
Yet another proposal for the Tiger Stadium site being preemptively shot down...

MLB might transform Tiger Stadium into youth baseball facility
JUNE 11, 2013
LOUIS AGUILAR | THE DETROIT NEWS

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20130611&Category=SPORTS0104&ArtNo=306110028&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&MLB-might-transform-Tiger-Stadium-into-youth-baseball-facility

Major League Baseball is considering the old Tiger Stadium as a site to build a state-of-the-art facility to provide baseball activities to youths.

But one high-level Detroit official says the “offer is a scam” that doesn’t have the money to make it happen.

The Major League Baseball Urban Youth Academy is an initiative overseen by MLB Executive Vice President of Baseball Development and Hall of Famer Frank Robinson. Darrell Miller, MLB vice president of youth and facility development, has been in Detroit to talk about the potential project.

“We would be love to be in Detroit. We know what it has gone through, and we know it’s on the rebound. We want to be part of that,” Miller said.

The now vacant Tiger Stadium site is among Detroit properties being considered, Miller said. He would not name the other sites.

[...]

George Jackson, president of the Detroit Economic Growth Corp., which controls the city-owned Tiger Stadium property, says he has met with Miller and is convinced the deal is not solid. Jackson painted the idea as the latest in a long line of plans high on sentiment for the site but fell far short on basic fundamentals.

“Show me the money and I would be more than happy to do the deal,” Jackson said. “But there is no money. The Tigers have already said no to this deal. You just can’t come to the table without any money.”

[...]

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130611/SPORTS0104/306110028#ixzz2VupmhbtU

LMich
Jun 12, 2013, 7:10 AM
Yet another proposal for the Tiger Stadium site being preemptively shot down...

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130611/SPORTS0104/306110028#ixzz2VupmhbtU

EDIT: I'm not so sure this is pre-emptively being shot down as it is George Jackson knowing what he's talking about, for once. I have to say that while his characterization of the concept - and, really, this is not an actual proposal, and that needs to be reiterated - as a scam is inflammatory and inaccurate, he's right to be skeptical given the things folks try to pass off as "proposals" in this city.

If MLB wants to partner with an actual developer to reuse the field and build a facility on part of the site, that's great. Until there is an actual developer with enough money to make this feasible, he's right to be critical of this and the actions of the guy running around to the papers as if this is a proposal sitting on the table.

Realistically and preferably, you'd reuse the field and sell off parcels along the perimeter to get as many uses as you can out of the site. I hope that's eventually what happens. If MLB wants to be a part of that, I welcome them.

animatedmartian
Jun 12, 2013, 1:25 PM
That makes sense. Jackson doesn't seem terribly tactful when he explains things. The article gave me the impression he just wanted some type of mega development and didn't want some 'rinky-dink' baseball complex.

LMich
Jun 12, 2013, 2:05 PM
That makes sense. Jackson doesn't seem terribly tactful when he explains things. The article gave me the impression he just wanted some type of mega development and didn't want some 'rinky-dink' baseball complex.

I got the same impression...but I kind of agree. On one hand, you have an existing diamond on the site. On the other hand, though, this is potentially valuable land on a major avenue. Like I said, if MLB and a developer can come up with the money, I guess I wouldn't mind them using the site or part of the site, but it seems to me a far better use of the site is something that generate a lot more revenue and taxes. There is so much empty land in the areas to the north and east that this site isn't necessarily the only one that could fit a baseball facility.

animatedmartian
Jun 12, 2013, 5:47 PM
The winning entries for Dan Gilbert's International Design contest for the Hudson site.

1st Place
Davide Marchetti and Erin Pellegrino
Rome, Italy

It incorporates an urban path to an elevated platform and includes sculptural high-rise elements and low-rise components for a combined use of commercial, residential and retail space in upper and lower plazas. Other uses include a market and cinemas. The design uses red brick found in much of the city’s historic architecture, while complementing nearby buildings.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4200/hudsonproposals00379001.jpg

2nd Place
Efrain Velez and Team
Kalamazoo, MI

Efrain Velez and Team envision an eco-friendly mixed use development designed to promote a dynamic exchange among people and inspire innovation. It features a business incubator, marketplace, hotel and several housing options along with climate controlled common areas. The building honors Detroit’s industrial past and resembles the silhouette of past factories and “the material qualities of a rusted steel façade.”

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3991/hudsonproposals0074900.jpg

3rd Place
Team Rossetti / Metrogramma
Southfield, MI

Team Rossetti and Metrogramma propose a building honoring the site’s significance for Detroit’s identity with a strong visual impact. Its triangular shape suggests a sail on a boat. Other materials include steel, concrete and glass, and a greener side featuring terraces with water views and reflecting pools at ground level. Functions include entertainment and event space, residential, retail and office space.

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8006/hrhudsonsproposals0113.jpg

Top 3 community chosen designs.

1st Place
Emilie Rottman and James Ramil
Washington, DC

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8094/hrhudsonsproposals0157.jpg

2nd Place
Diana Khadr and Team
Detroit, MI

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7320/hrhudsonsproposals0150.jpg

3rd Place
Salvador Espinos and Selene Contreras
Mexico

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1268/hrhudsonsproposals0096.jpg

All entries (http://hudsons.opportunitydetroit.com/entry-all/). A lot of cool ones though kinda unrealistic giving the site limitations. The international designs seem more out there while the domestic entries seem more minimalist. I thought that was an interesting contrast at a quick glance.

The North One
Jun 12, 2013, 5:50 PM
^^^ They all look like shit.

LMich
Jun 13, 2013, 7:14 AM
I like the use of the podium rooftop in the Diana Khadr and Team concept (Exten(D)), and that's about it.

I know it's not likely, but I'd like to see something where the streetwall along Woodward is solid for the entire block and at least as tall as the low-rise rooftops of the buildings on the block directly to the north. And, after that, something at least as tall as Compuware to the south. For whatever reason, I'm really concentrated on the massing of whatever is put here than any other factor. Only the Exten(D) seems to get anywhere close to what I want on the ground.

As for the architecture of whatever goes here, though, I'd rather something subtle. To me, if you're going you're trying to build something flashy to show-off, the Monroe Block would probably be the best location for that. I was actually sad to see Cadillac Centre fail at that site.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Cadillac_Centre_rendering.jpg
Northern Group via Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cadillac_Centre_rendering.jpg)

LMich
Jun 13, 2013, 11:43 AM
Not development news, but a survey quantifying a successful downtown development. Plus, they have a great picture of Milliken State Park. :)

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130613&Category=BUSINESS06&ArtNo=306120132&Ref=V2&MaxW=600&Border=0
The Detroit riverfront at Milliken State Park on June 3. Detroit RiverFront Conservancy, a nonprofit organization dedicated to developing public access to Detroit's riverfront, is a 2013 Michigan Green Leader. BRIAN KAUFMAN/Detroit Free Press

Detroit RiverWalk brings millions of dollars to city, study says (http://www.freep.com/article/20130613/BUSINESS06/306120132/Riverfront-RiverWalk-Detroit-Conservancy-Green-Leaders)

By John Gallagher | Detroit Free Press

June 13, 2013

The Detroit Riverfront Conservancy is celebrating its 10th anniversary this week with a new economic impact study showing millions of dollars in benefits for the city from the operation of the RiverWalk.

Among the findings of the study: Annual spending by visitors, residents, employees and other operations along the riverfront is estimated at $43.7 million, while tax revenue generated by ongoing riverfront activity is estimated at $4.5 million annually.

The study found that 77% of respondents indicated that they came to the riverfront from home rather than being downtown or in the vicinity, anyway — indicating that the riverfront is indeed a destination. And about 55% of those who came to the riverfront from home traveled more than 10 miles to do so.

Meanwhile, more than seven in 10 visitors questioned for the study said they visited the riverfront on a monthly or more frequent basis. Of those frequent visitors, about 40% do not live or work downtown but came to the riverfront as a destination.

...

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130613&Category=BUSINESS06&ArtNo=306120132&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Detroit-RiverWalk-brings-millions-dollars-city-study-says

uaarkson
Jun 13, 2013, 2:20 PM
Wow, things are really heating up in the D.

That first place design would look amazing with cor-ten steel.

mousquet
Jun 13, 2013, 4:51 PM
I find the design of the Roman firm 'chosen by the jury' quite possibly elegant. The massing of the high-rise components is fine and I sense something good in the materials they chose, maybe in the German fashion of what they built in the Netherlands lately, but even better cause they seemingly added more glass to red bricks there, providing larger windows. That design could fit the place very well. I just think they should add a few more stories both to the podiums and to the towers indeed, so that the feeling from the street gets more impressive.

hudkina
Jun 14, 2013, 3:25 PM
I sort of like the design from Rome. I think it's neat that they hint at the massing of the original Hudson's building, but also create a sense of openness. I'd maybe tweak it a little bit, but I think something along those lines would be nice.

LMich
Jun 18, 2013, 12:19 PM
Apparently, rents still need to get hire before serious inventory will be added. It's frustrating at the moment, because the inner-city is obviously on the cusp of a mini-boom in terms of housing.

Downtown Detroit rents go through roof (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130618/BIZ/306180020/Downtown-Detroit-rents-go-through-roof?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

By Louis Aguilar | The Detroit News

June 18, 2013

Detroit — Residential rent prices in the gentrifying neighborhoods of Detroit are steadily marching upward, climbing in some cases by $3,000 more per year for the same place, and landlords are pushing them higher at every opportunity.

That’s because the rent is still too low for buildings to pay for themselves without relying on government subsidies and foundation dole, developers and city economic officials contend. But the demand to live in Corktown, downtown, Midtown and along the riverfront is red hot — nine of 10 rental units in those neighborhoods are occupied, according to studies.

So the cat-and-mouse game is on, as landlords hike rents and renters scramble to come up with more money or find alternatives. Rising rents are changing who lives in the 7.2-square-mile swath of the city that’s gentrifying, attracting a growing number of affluent professionals as well as 20-somethings willing to live with roommates.

“The prices for something in Midtown and downtown are now competitive with Royal Oak or Ferndale. It hasn’t been that way until recently,” said Eric Brown, founder of Royal Oak-based Urbane Apartments, which charges the same rent in all three of those locations.

It’s not uncommon to see rents start at $1,000 or more in Detroit’s hot areas, and penthouses can command $5,000 a month. The renovated Broderick Tower in Grand Circus Park, which opened six months ago, is raising rents by 12 percent in new leases, said Stewart Beal, one of the owners. Residents at the Detroit City Apartments say their rent has gone up 15 percent annually the past two years.

It’s causing a lot of people to double up.

...

animatedmartian
Jun 18, 2013, 5:16 PM
Dan Gilbert buys two more buildings in Detroit's downtown
JUNE 18, 2013
LOUIS AGUILAR | THE DETROIT NEWS

http://multimedia.detroitnews.com/pix/93/02/ea/43/f6/69/20121203155809_firstnational.jpg

Dan Gilbert's Rock Ventures added two adjacent buildings on Woodward Avenue to its vast downtown Detroit collection.

The buildings are 620 and 630 Woodward Avenue, two four-story buildings between Campus Martius Park and Jefferson Avenue, according to company officials.

The buildings, currently painted yellow and green, are next to each other on the east side of Woodward. One houses the Bangkok Crossing restaurant. Plans are to upgrade the buildings for retail and office space.

Rock Ventures and entities affiliated with Gilbert, founder of Quicken Loans Inc., own or control 30 downtown buildings, totaling 7.6 million square feet.


From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130618/BIZ/306180075#ixzz2WaZhqN1Y

JonathanGRR
Jun 18, 2013, 11:50 PM
And the reign of the automobile continues:

SEMCOG to vote on I-94, I-75 expansionsStaff Writer | June 17, 2013

DETROIT—The General Assembly of the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments will soon finalize both short and long-term priorities for transportation funding in the region.

Two documents — the 2040 Regional Transportation Plan and the 2014-2017 Transportation Improvement Plan — will be voted on when the body convenes this Thursday, June 20, at the Atheneum Suite Hotel in Greektown.

Both plans identify a wide variety of transportation-related expenditures, including the "most controversial issue" of planned expansions of I-94 and I-75, according to a statement prepared by the council's executive director, Paul Tait.

The projects have raised increasing concern in recent months. The Washtenaw County Commission passed a resolution opposing the expansion of I-94 early this month, while similar resolutions will be considered by Ferndale, Hazel Park, and Detroit in the coming week.

Opponents fear the project will sever Detroit's New Center area from a recent surge in economic development experienced by the city's downtown and midtown districts. Some are particularly concerned about negative impacts on bicycling and pedestrian infrastructure.

"The Michigan Department of Transportation plans to remove the rail bridges over I-75 [to accommodate a new I-94 interchange]," Todd Scott of the Michigan trails and Greenways Alliance tells Mode Shift in an e-mail. "It would be a shame if MDOT did that, but the bigger issue is their removal of the Piquette and Ferry Street bridges over I-75."

"After removing these bridges, there will be a mile of impassable expressway," Scott continues. "This will significantly isolate parts of the Milwaukee Junction, Midtown, and Poletown East — something MDOT did to Mexicantown decades ago." This "error" was only recently corrected by construction of the Bagley pedestrian bridge, according to Scott.

"During the non-motorized impact analysis [for the I-94 project], MDOT did not consider the rail corridor," Scott writes. MDOT planners also failed to take into account "the increase in travel times for bicyclists" and "poor bicycling conditions for alternative bridges," Scott adds, calling the analysis "incomplete and unprofessional."

"They also ignored basic traffic laws when considering bicycling impact of the street bridge removals. They assumed bicycles would ride illegally against traffic," Scott concludes.

Upgrades to the I-94 expressway are estimated to cost a total of $2.7 billion. Approximately 20 percent of that amount — about $450 million — will be spent on widening the expressway, according to the Michigan Department of Transportation. Expanding service drives and building longer overpasses is expected to bring that total even higher.

It's an amount which, opponents argue, is money better spent elsewhere.
...
http://wearemodeshift.org/semcog-vote-i-94-i-75-expansions

LMich
Jun 19, 2013, 7:21 AM
SEMCOG completely lost me when they voted to reformulate how transit money gets doled out until the RTA is up and fully running. While I hate that they are doing this, this doesn't mean that the expansion is imminent. There are still chances to stop it. There is absolutely no sane rationale for expanding any freeway within the city limits of Detroit. The can scream about freight all they want, but even they know this is bull.

animatedmartian
Jun 19, 2013, 11:02 AM
I don't really care about the expansion part, though I would like it if the off-ramps between 75 and the Lodge were reconfigured for better flows. There's a lot of traffic weaving and sudden entrances and exits which seems like it's what makes that stretch of 94 more congested than it actually is.

jodelli
Jun 19, 2013, 6:50 PM
New Arena:

http://www.freep.com/article/20130619/BUSINESS06/306190099/-650-million-Red-Wings-arena-proposed-near-Woodward-75
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/watch-live-downtown-development-authority-making-major-announcement

animatedmartian
Jun 19, 2013, 8:06 PM
More details. This is almost an unbelievable among of development and I find it hard to believe this might be built all at once.


...

Under the concept proposed by Ilitch Holdings, the new hockey arena, or multipurpose events center, would anchor a 35-acre downtown district featuring sports, entertainment, stores and housing near the Ilitch family’s company headquarters in the restored Fox Theatre on Woodward Avenue and nearby Comerica Park, the home built for Mike Ilitch’s Detroit Tigers.

On Wednesday, the DEGC announced it approved a memorandum of understanding with Olympia Development of Michigan and Wayne County that “describes the proposed public and private financing and location for a new sports and entertainment district Downtown.”

According to the DEGC, the district includes a $450 million sports and entertainment center and $200 million in new residential, retail and office development in an approximately 45-block area that generally reaches from Grand Circus Park to Charlotte Street between Woodward and Grand River avenues.

The DEGC also announced “the new development is anticipated to create approximately 5,500 jobs for the events center alone and approximately 8,300 jobs for the entire residential and commercial mixed-use district. Michigan can anticipate an estimated economic impact of $1.8 billion from the completion of this project.”

Other projects that could be part of the $200 million additional development include:

■ 140,000 square feet of new mixed office and retail development on Woodward at Sproat St.

■ 25,000 square feet of office and retail development along Woodward

■ Several parking structures with a total of 25,000 square feet of retail

■ Renovation of the Detroit Life Building at 2210 Park Ave. for 3,645 square feet of retail and 35 residential units

■ Renovation of the Blenheim Building at 81 W. Columbia St. for 1,833 square feet of retail and 16 residential units

■ Renovation of the building at 1922 Cass Ave. for 70,000 square feet of office space

■ A new hotel-retail development with a 20,000 square feet of ground floor

■ Parking lots and other amenities



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130619/BIZ/306190075#ixzz2Wh6WHpqY

Map of the area within the district.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=217223669611842021983.0004df86d42ae3007c426&msa=0&hl=en&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=42.338721,-83.056598&spn=0.011103,0.018239&z=15&source=embed

LMich
Jun 20, 2013, 7:20 AM
I'd imagine that much of it is contigent upon market demand, but that there is such detailed plan shows that this is pretty serious. It's sounding like this is what Mike wants to go out on, something he originally wanted to do with Comerica Park (a village/entertainment district), but never got around to.

My favorite part of this is that they are going to restore the streetwall on Woodward, and infill the area behind the Fox Theater. The 140,000 square feet at Woodward and Sproat is also going to be something significant. But, yeah, this has got to be the largest comprehensive development in decades. We're talking something like 40 blocks, I think. This area has been the last frontier of greater downtown for years, so maybe now developers will take chances a bit further out in places like Eastern Market/South Poletown and North Corktown.

EDIT: A graphic from today's Freep (http://www.freep.com/article/20130619/NEWS01/130619014/):

http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/graphic/C4207211619.JPG

hudkina
Jun 20, 2013, 4:18 PM
I hope that this spurs the renovation of all of the derelict buildings in the Cass Park area. I could see the park becoming a sort of Grant Park (it's about the same size) with a massive central lawn creating a respite from the urban surrounds.

JonathanGRR
Jun 21, 2013, 12:56 AM
So apparently SEMCOG did vote to go ahead with the I-94 expansion. The project is not written in stone yet, but it appears to be getting closer to reality.

animatedmartian
Jun 21, 2013, 3:22 AM
Walked around Downtown a couple of hours ago. Cheap dollar store batteries didn't allow for many pictures.

But anyway, I got some photos of the Zsite garage. It doesn't take away from the area, but it doesn't exactly add much either. It's a nice filler as a parking garage. At least the first floor retail might liven up the block a bit.

http://l4.yimg.com/sm/5324/9096112793_2bb011a617_b.jpg[/url]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/9096102273_811d6a6a94_b.jpg

Rizzo
Jun 21, 2013, 5:04 AM
^ Great pics. It certainly does add a good feel of density to the area even if it's a garage. But I can imagine this street having a great retail presence in the future.

BTW, I actually like the Rome team's proposal. The narrow towers are so very iconic of Detroit. It's also a forced expectation that ground level retail will be fine grain...challenging Detroit's last horrific half century of terrible city planning and development of super block and super-size architecture. And geez don't get me started with the freeway proposal. I'm refusing to comment any more on that or I will spill a novel why it shouldn't be built.

LMich
Jun 21, 2013, 7:27 AM
The garage is not half bad looking, and even looks like the rendering. I hope this sates parking desires in this end of downtown, though, for a long time.

On the freeway expansion vote, it seems SEMCOG had already made up its mind. I mean, they got over two dozens folks to speak out against the project at the meeting, and SEMCOG officially yawned in their faces. The road-building lobby is out of control in this state; they've been pushing the I-75 expansion since the first Granholm administration. The urban and metropolitan areas are off their peak populations by nearly hundreds-of-thousands, and they are still pushing these expansions. Snyder is going around twisting arms just to get the money to fix match money for existing freeways and roads, and we're talking about expansions? Really? Can you even imagine what we could do if we plowed this money into commuter rail projects in the metro?

Rizzo
Jun 22, 2013, 5:44 AM
Well the expressway obession is ubiquitous here in Illinois as well. I just think that this project has a blatant disregard for the neighborhoods. The strongest voice the residents have are what kinds of plants and stamped concrete goes up.

JonathanGRR
Jun 23, 2013, 4:46 PM
The Hotel Charlevoix was demolished this morning. :-/

animatedmartian
Jun 23, 2013, 6:20 PM
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/22663865/hotel-charlevoix-demolished

Video of the demolition. Can't really tell if they used explosives or not, but if they didn't then it must have been pretty easy for the building to come down.

Hopefully with Illitch's district plan, the real estate here will go into high demand.

LMich
Jun 24, 2013, 7:34 AM
Here's what happened (http://www.freep.com/article/20130623/BLOG25/306230089/Dan-Austin-Saying-goodbye-Hotel-Charlevoix) according to the Freep:

The Hotel Charlevoix is no more.

About 7:30 a.m. this morning, workers took down the forlorn Charlevoix in one fell swoop. After cutting the steel I-beams supporting the old hotel, cables were used to bring the building down upon itself.

I know it's sacrilege to say in the preservation community, but given the stadium district announcement the other day, which includes this site, I'm even less sad about this loss than I originally was.

animatedmartian
Jun 24, 2013, 12:57 PM
I know more people will be sad to see these two buildings go. But indeed, they will be demolished to make way for the arena.

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8836/8mwr.jpg

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130624/METRO01/306240013/Arena-plan-one-more-change-Cass-Corridor-area-rich-history

The article itself is mostly about how current Cass Corridor residents feel about the new development. Most, if not all, seem pretty supportive of the change despite knowing they might get pushed out of the neighborhood or might even know they're already being bought out.

Rizzo
Jun 24, 2013, 11:43 PM
Some things never change.

Detroit continues its march of architectural devastation.

More buildings that once housed residents and businesses fall, more surface lots, hollow arenas, and parking garages go up.

It's painful to see a city with such rich history completely eradicate it for projects that totally contradict urbanism and cultural vibrance.

Tear down Motown Records, tear down the American Beauty building, tear down the Globe Warehouse. The iconic list goes far and beyond the Hudsons, the Statlers, the City hall or the Lafayette.

The numb stoicism I get from my friends towards all this demolition is not surprisingly present here in this thread. No offense. I mean what can you really do. Just when I'm feeling good about everything that happening with new jobs and restaurants, I get sucker punched by this news.



On another note. I had started a project with a friend to create a conceptual design for an arena. The context was modeled in great detail with these two buildings in particular...polished up residential and hotel buildings. We found the arena would occupy an incredibly small footprint, and that most parking could be easily decked. With tons of space left over, you could probably build a whole micro-city of 5000 residents with current market sensibilities. Maybe if we ever get somewhere finishing the project I'll post it.

JonathanGRR
Jun 25, 2013, 12:31 AM
I could be wrong, but that article did not make it seem 100% that the hotels would be leveled...it sounded more like speculation. In an interview, one of the architects of the arena project said that a final plan has not been constructed yet. Therefore, anything could happen at this point.

Hayward: Sorry for adding insult to injury, but you also forgot to mention the United Sound Systems Recording Studio that will likely be demolished if I-94 does indeed get expanded.

LMich
Jun 25, 2013, 7:28 AM
If my understanding the arena site is correct, the only one of those two that need to come down for the actual arena building would be the Harbor Light Center/Park Avenue Hotel, as the superblock will be bounded by Sproat to the north. If they are bringing down the Eddystone, too, and won't be for the arena proper.

The article itself is mostly about how current Cass Corridor residents feel about the new development. Most, if not all, seem pretty supportive of the change despite knowing they might get pushed out of the neighborhood or might even know they're already being bought out.

I think they kind of have to be resigned to the fact since there is so little of this "neighborhood" left. I mean, the population of the Census tract around Cass Park - bounded by MLK, the Lodge, the Fisher and Woodward - literally declined by nearly 55% between 2000 and 2010 with only about 1,700 residents left. It was among the most extreme depopulations of any Census tract in the entire city. I believe it was the greatest percentage loss of any tract west of Woodward.

LMich
Jun 25, 2013, 11:49 AM
Not yet much of a physical development, but something that could be down the road...

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20130625&Category=SPORTS07&ArtNo=306250019&Ref=AR&MaxW=600&Border=0
Detroit City FC fans showed up in force last Tuesday for an exhibition match against the Columbus Crew of Major League Soccer. Daniel Mears/Detroit News


Soccertown? Detroit City FC becoming a Midtown sensation (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130625/SPORTS07/306250019/Soccertown-Detroit-City-FC-becoming-Midtown-sensation?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

By Josh Katzenstein | The Detroit News

June 25, 2013

Detroit — When Detroit City FC has a home soccer game, Midtown comes to life in a way that can only be rivaled by the city’s major sports teams.

With 1,500 or so fans each match, the semi-pro soccer team doesn’t draw a crowd nearly as big as the Lions, Tigers or Red Wings, but the passion that fills the area can’t be beat.

Instead of foam fingers and pom-poms, Detroit City fans light smoke bombs and wave flags big enough to cover a car. Instead of lovebirds proposing on a Jumbotron, the fans will simply wed on the field, as a couple did at Sunday’s game.

As the team’s second season nears its end, the crowd continues to grow and exceed the five-man ownership group’s expectations, but when the owners look ahead, they see something that can only continue to bring life to a downtrodden city.

...

Interesting article, and worth the read.

hudkina
Jun 25, 2013, 3:15 PM
Hipsters are so weird...

animatedmartian
Jun 25, 2013, 7:02 PM
I think they kind of have to be resigned to the fact since there is so little of this "neighborhood" left. I mean, the population of the Census tract around Cass Park - bounded by MLK, the Lodge, the Fisher and Woodward - literally declined by nearly 55% between 2000 and 2010 with only about 1,700 residents left. It was among the most extreme depopulations of any Census tract in the entire city. I believe it was the greatest percentage loss of any tract west of Woodward.

Wouldn't a huge chunk of that loss be from the Jeffries Projects on the Lodge and Temple? But then again, yea this area's been losing population for decades upon decades. The fact that it used to be one of Detroit's most densely populated areas and now only has less than 2,000 residents speaks to how under-utilized this area really is.

LMich
Jun 26, 2013, 7:15 AM
Very good point; I'd totally forgotten about that. Yeah, Jeffries East was demolished in 2008, but when did people start moving back into the new units (Cornerstone)? Was it before or after the Census? Something similar happened in the tract that covers Brush Park, with the population loss being almost entirely the result of the Fredrick Douglass Apartments shuttering, which the big difference being that unlike the Brush Park tract where you had the rest of the neighborhood actually growing, there is nothing equivalent across Woodward.

LMich
Jun 26, 2013, 10:53 AM
The march to downtown continues, and Gilbertown gains another tenant:

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130625&Category=BUSINESS06&ArtNo=306250092&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&Border=0&Southfield-firm-move-into-Detroit-s-Chrysler-House

Southfield firm to move into Detroit's Chrysler House (http://www.freep.com/article/20130625/BUSINESS06/306250092/Gilbert-downtown-Detroit)

By John Gallagher | Detroit Free Press

June 25, 2013

The Professional Group, a Southfield-based provider of maintenance services to commercial buildings, announced Tuesday it is moving its corporate headquarters and 65 employees into the Chrysler House, an historic downtown Detroit building that is part of the real estate holdings of Quicken Loans founder Dan Gilbert.

The firm will lease the 21st floor of the Chrysler House, or about 15,000 square feet. The move is scheduled to take place in August.

“This move represents an opportunity to reconnect with the energy and revitalization of a great American city,” said Joseph Ciolino, chief financial officer of Belfor Holdings, the parent company of the Professional Group and Belfor Property Restoration.

Doug Hamburger, president of the Professional Group, said the company has 1,500 employees operating across 26 states.

“Being in the heart of Detroit will allow us to expand our network in a way that is beneficial for our team, our clients and our city,” Hamburger said.

Bedrock Real Estate Services, part of Gilbert’s Rock Ventures umbrella entity, brokered the lease.

animatedmartian
Jun 26, 2013, 2:31 PM
Very good point; I'd totally forgotten about that. Yeah, Jeffries East was demolished in 2008, but when did people start moving back into the new units (Cornerstone)? Was it before or after the Census? Something similar happened in the tract that covers Brush Park, with the population loss being almost entirely the result of the Fredrick Douglass Apartments shuttering, which the big difference being that unlike the Brush Park tract where you had the rest of the neighborhood actually growing, there is nothing equivalent across Woodward.

I want to say that the first few units were available after 2010. Maybe even 2011 or 2012. But for sure it was after the Census.

animatedmartian
Jun 26, 2013, 2:36 PM
RAILS TO TRAILS: INNER CIRCLE GREENWAY COMING TO DETROIT

By Staff Writer | June 26, 2013 | Source: David Sands

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DETROIT—Taking an extended bike trip through Detroit may become a no-brainer in the not-too-distant future. A new trail project is in the works that would link together several of Motown’s most well-known biking and walking paths into a big loop around much of the city.

Known as the Detroit Inner Circle Greenway, the route is being put together by the City of Detroit with the assistance of a coalition that includes the Michigan Trails and Greenways Alliance and the Community Foundation for Southeast Michigan. The cities of Dearborn, Hamtramck and Highland Park are also helping handle parts of the greenway that pass through their jurisdictions.

The 26-mile route would fall roughly between Wyoming and Mt. Elliot to the west and east, and McNichols and the Detroit River to the north and south. It would join together the Dequindre Cut, Detroit RiverWalk and Southwest Detroit greenways with a number of others now on the verge of being built.

...

Plans for the greenway date back at least half a decade, starting as an idea championed by Jim Edwards, a cycling enthusiast who works with Detroit’s Law Department. Recently, however, it’s started to gain some serious traction.

According to Scott, project partners are gearing up to fill in a number of gaps along the trail, including an extension of the Dequindre Cut, development along the RiverWalk’s western half, and bike lanes along St. Aubin in Detroit and various parts of Hamtramck. In total, about half the route is expected to be complete by 2014.

...

http://wearemodeshift.org/rails-trails-inner-circle-greenway-coming-detroit

detroitguy
Jun 26, 2013, 3:43 PM
http://wearemodeshift.org/rails-trails-inner-circle-greenway-coming-detroit

Can't wait!

LMich
Jun 27, 2013, 7:11 AM
http://wearemodeshift.org/rails-trails-inner-circle-greenway-coming-detroit

This. Is. Awesome.

pip
Jun 27, 2013, 11:11 AM
^That really is. I can only dream of that here in Chicago. Fantastic way to bike through the city. No cars and all. I'm jealous!

uaarkson
Jun 27, 2013, 1:16 PM
Really good, tangible, substantive development for Detroit. Hopefully place-making makes a comeback.

photoLith
Jun 27, 2013, 2:02 PM
Sorry to ask this in this thread, but me and a friend are coming to d money a week from this weekend and was wondering if anyone had some spare room where we could sleep and whatnot. It will be my first time really exploring Detroit, other than driving to midland from its airport. I can't wait to photograph the hell out of the city.

CHAPINM1
Jun 27, 2013, 5:02 PM
Sorry to ask this in this thread, but me and a friend are coming to d money a week from this weekend and was wondering if anyone had some spare room where we could sleep and whatnot. It will be my first time really exploring Detroit, other than driving to midland from its airport. I can't wait to photograph the hell out of the city.

Although I am not from Detroit. I hope this may be helpful. I saw it while browsing the net:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57bgyffueU

It is a hostel there in Detroit that is quite well known. Hope it helps. :)

animatedmartian
Jun 27, 2013, 5:19 PM
:previous: Man, if only I refreshed quicker and saw your post. :haha:

Sorry to ask this in this thread, but me and a friend are coming to d money a week from this weekend and was wondering if anyone had some spare room where we could sleep and whatnot. It will be my first time really exploring Detroit, other than driving to midland from its airport. I can't wait to photograph the hell out of the city.

There's a hostel in Corktown that might be a pretty good option for you.

http://www.hosteldetroit.com/

animatedmartian
Jun 27, 2013, 5:35 PM
State OK's $5.7M to build Detroit medical warehouse on blighted land

LOUIS AGUILAR / THE DETROIT NEWS

Detroit — Plans to build a medical distribution warehouse on 23 acres of blighted, contaminated property in the shadow of the Henry Ford Health System was awarded $5.7 million from the state today.

The grant was approved by the Michigan Strategic Fund in Lansing on Wednesday afternoon, according to the state agency. The Cardinal Health Medical Supply warehouse will be 275,000 square-feet, cost up to $30 million to build and create up to 31 jobs, according to documents provided by the Strategic fund.

....

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130626/BIZ/306260108#ixzz2XRF6zSW7


Images via Curbed. Standard modern warehouse design. I think it'd be cool if it had a more urban design (what's the deal with everything having landscape berms now?).

My expectation is that this area (https://www.google.com/maps?q=marquette+at+helca,+detroit&hl=en&ll=42.359253,-83.086102&spn=0.003638,0.004136&sll=42.352711,-83.099205&sspn=0.273507,0.534897&t=h&hnear=Marquette+Ave+%26+Hecla+St,+Detroit,+Wayne,+Michigan+48208&z=18) wouldn't be rapidly developed in the next Detroit "boom", but it'd be a nice thought.

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/CardinalRendering1.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2360/fy7t.jpg

mousquet
Jun 27, 2013, 6:15 PM
The 26-mile trail is definitely inexpensive compared to the healthy fun and money it should bring. Just a brilliant idea. You can sense something both profitable and making locals happier.
It's perfect.

CHAPINM1
Jun 27, 2013, 6:20 PM
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130626/BIZ/306260108#ixzz2XRF6zSW7


Images via Curbed. Standard modern warehouse design. I think it'd be cool if it had a more urban design (what's the deal with everything having landscape berms now?).

My expectation is that this area (https://www.google.com/maps?q=marquette+at+helca,+detroit&hl=en&ll=42.359253,-83.086102&spn=0.003638,0.004136&sll=42.352711,-83.099205&sspn=0.273507,0.534897&t=h&hnear=Marquette+Ave+%26+Hecla+St,+Detroit,+Wayne,+Michigan+48208&z=18) wouldn't be rapidly developed in the next Detroit "boom", but it'd be a nice thought.

http://detroit.curbed.com/uploads/CardinalRendering1.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2360/fy7t.jpg

Could someone provide photos of the land today in it's current state? ^^^ I think would be interesting to see what is like now compared to after the warehouse is built. :)

animatedmartian
Jun 27, 2013, 7:27 PM
Could someone provide photos of the land today in it's current state? ^^^ I think would be interesting to see what is like now compared to after the warehouse is built. :)

I mean, doesn't really look any different than most ruin porn you see out of Detroit; abandoned car factory, burnt out homes, overgrown grass and graffiti, etc, etc.

The most prominent building on the site is the 20th century industrial Schroeder Paint and Glass Plant.

That $6 million dollars grant is basically to clean all of it up so that the warehouse can then be built.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2343/2416338119_b987fafa2d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/detroitliger/2416338119/)
Abandoned Schroeder Paint & Glass Co. Rosa Parks and Antoinette Detroit 4/08 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/detroitliger/2416338119/) by Detroit Liger (http://www.flickr.com/people/detroitliger/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8425039379_a7d77ece46_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/picturenarrative/8425039379/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/picturenarrative/8425039379/) by picturenarrative (http://www.flickr.com/people/picturenarrative/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8093/8407333826_3d1286e056_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/picturenarrative/8407333826/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/picturenarrative/8407333826/) by picturenarrative (http://www.flickr.com/people/picturenarrative/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8369/8403407879_b62c1de12c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/picturenarrative/8403407879/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/picturenarrative/8403407879/) by picturenarrative (http://www.flickr.com/people/picturenarrative/), on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3244/2417157200_926d6da481_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/detroitliger/2417157200/)
Abandoned Schroeder Paint & Glass Co. Rosa Parks and Antoinette Detroit 4/08 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/detroitliger/2417157200/) by Detroit Liger (http://www.flickr.com/people/detroitliger/), on Flickr


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8445/7877708990_e007a8c4a3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/memoriesbymike/7877708990/)
Schroeder Paint and Glass_Detroit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/memoriesbymike/7877708990/) by memories_by_mike (http://www.flickr.com/people/memoriesbymike/), on Flickr

animatedmartian
Jun 27, 2013, 11:51 PM
DEGC getting pressure from Emergency Manager Kevin Orr to use the federal money given to Detroit to develop the Tiger Stadium site into a public sports complex.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/22699086/redevlopment-in-the-future-for-tiger-stadium-site-in-corktown?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=9033467#

CHAPINM1
Jun 28, 2013, 5:10 AM
I mean, doesn't really look any different than most ruin porn you see out of Detroit; abandoned car factory, burnt out homes, overgrown grass and graffiti, etc, etc.

The most prominent building on the site is the 20th century industrial Schroeder Paint and Glass Plant.

That $6 million dollars grant is basically to clean all of it up so that the warehouse can then be built.



Thank you very much for the photos. I will without a doubt be a complete 180 turnaround for that land and be a hell of an improvement compared to what is currently there by a lang shot!

LMich
Jun 28, 2013, 7:27 AM
I mean, doesn't really look any different than most ruin porn you see out of Detroit; abandoned car factory, burnt out homes, overgrown grass and graffiti, etc, etc.

The most prominent building on the site is the 20th century industrial Schroeder Paint and Glass Plant.

That $6 million dollars grant is basically to clean all of it up so that the warehouse can then be built.

It's funnny, I used to live up Rosa Parks not that far as a kid, but we never really went south of the Boulevard, so I had no idea you get these kind of views of New Center and downtown from that location.

BTW, I think the warehouse was announced months ago (I may have even posted a rendering here), but it sounds like it got more funding to finally get it started. I think the thing is ugly as sin, like something you'd find out in some industrial park in Livonia or Warren, but it's not like there is anything salvagable in this totally bombed out area, and it's sort of tucked out of the way, so I guess the design won't ruin much of anything.

I do find it a bit odd that the first phase is set back on the site along the railroad tracks even though it's not going to use a rail connection. I realize in modern factories it's easier to secure them by setting them back, but it's still disappointing when you see it. Even with the expansion, you've got parking buffering the thing up along Marquette.

animatedmartian
Jul 1, 2013, 4:35 PM
The new Detroit Public Safety HQ opened this past weekend.

Mayor shows off new Detroit Public Safety Headquarters

By Eric D. Lawrence
Detroit Free Press Staff Writer

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8688/bdni.jpg

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7600/oyr5.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1351/e3qc.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/719/go2i.jpg

The offices are still bare, aside from furniture, but the ribbon has been cut on the new Detroit Public Safety Headquarters.

Mayor Dave Bing and other officials, including outgoing Police Chief Chester Logan and Fire Commissioner Donald Austin, said the seven-story building that will house the headquarters of the Detroit Police, Fire and EMS departments will improve efficiency, save as much as $3 million per year and boost the morale of the city’s first responders.

“This is a beacon for what can happen in our city,” Bing said today during the ribbon-cutting ceremony, noting that the “headquarters has been coming for a long, long time.”

The 400,000-square-foot, gray and green building at Third and Abbott within sight of the Lodge Freeway was built as an Internal Revenue Service data center in 1974 and was used as a temporary casino by MGM Grand Detroit from 1995 until 2005, according to information provided by the city. MGM Grand sold the building to the city for $6.3 million in August 2010. The $60-million renovation project is funded by bonds. C. Beth DunCombe, director of the Detroit Building Authority, said the building renovations met budget and were finished on time

....

http://www.freep.com/article/20130628/NEWS01/306280075/1001/news

However, a little farther down in the article...

Bing said that although the old police headquarters is in a prime location, he said it will likely have to be demolished.


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6985/6i68.jpg
http://www.preservationnation.org/magazine/story-of-the-week/2010/last-call-for-detroits.html

The old Fire Department headquarters at 250 W. Larned is expected to have another life as a boutique hotel.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/741/6bgm.jpg
http://www.preservationnation.org/magazine/story-of-the-week/2010/last-call-for-detroits.html

Preservationists are already out in arms. This article is from 3 years ago (http://www.preservationnation.org/magazine/story-of-the-week/2010/last-call-for-detroits.html).

City officials' swift action on relocation plans has been tied to the condition of the police headquarters. Inadequate maintenance has contributed to numerous problems: crumbling plaster, mold, water leaks, vermin, etc. In 2001 the prisoner lock-ups on the eighth and ninth floors were closed due to roach infestation and inadequate ventilation.

Bing commented, "I am glad to finally be able to move our officers into a safe, sound, and functional structure that is also citizen friendly and accessible. This represents an important step in making our city more operationally efficient ... and safe."

But local preservationists dispute the severity of the buildings' problems. "The city has exaggerated their reports of the structural problems at police headquarters," says Karen Nagher, executive director of Preservation Wayne.

So, hopefully, the old police HQ will find some new life. It's not guaranteed but bulldozers are plenty in this town...

hudkina
Jul 1, 2013, 8:21 PM
If they can turn the old fire headquarters into a boutique hotel, I can't see why they couldn't do the same for the police headquarters.

animatedmartian
Jul 1, 2013, 10:08 PM
If they can turn the old fire headquarters into a boutique hotel, I can't see why they couldn't do the same for the police headquarters.

With all the conversations in Detroit with buildings 10x worse than what they're describing in the police HQ, it makes no sense why it couldn't be converted.

I mean, the police HQ was at least an occupied building. Most other conversions were buildings that were vacant for 10+ years. It can't be that bad inside the police HQ.

bigboy
Jul 2, 2013, 4:19 AM
I Dont know if im more impressed that they have a Great new building or that those are the first Chargers ive ever seen in the Police Force

LMich
Jul 2, 2013, 7:24 AM
I love the area around the old DFD Headquarters; everything feels so solid, and the DFD Headquarters, itself, is a beauty. One of my favorite, multi-story buildings in the city is the Murphy-Telegraph Building at Congress and Shelby.

I really need to see some more views of the new public safety headquarters. Some angles I've seen make it look impressive, but the shots from the Freep make it look really cheap. Not sure what the skin is (EIFS, maybe?).

BTW, in occupied buildings that haven't been maintained properly like the DPD Headquarters, I can imagine scenarios in which it'd be more difficult to redo than a long-vacant building already gutted by scrappers and nature, you know, already-done interior demolition. lol The jail portion (the top two floors), I hear, are particularly nasty, which is why they had to close down the jail. Of course, it could definitely still be reused and it could, but I don't think it'd be as easy a redo as everyone thinls given the interior layout and poor maintenance.

Something really weird that also seems to be rumbling under the surface is that Dan Gilbert seems hellbent on making his opinion known with the purchase of Greeektown Casino and the debacle over Wayne County's consolidate jail that he doesn't understand why courts and jails are in downtown. It kind of blows my mind as most cities have a downtown jail and court district of complex, but he's been very vocal about essentially leveling all of the jails and courts in that area to expand Greektown. This is quite a bit different than what he's done in the rest of downtown (infill). It's probably why everyone seems so convinced that 1300 Beaubien is a goner unless you find another deep-pocketed developer willing to save it, because Dan and the city sure don't seem to want it to stand.

Rizzo
Jul 2, 2013, 6:12 PM
The building may be in good condition, but perhaps it would require enormous expenses for conversion. I don't really know to be honest. It would be absolutely tragic if it were lost.

animatedmartian
Jul 3, 2013, 2:42 AM
Potential for 'mini Campus Martius' in DTE's plan for western Detroit neighborhood
July 02, 2013
By Jay Greene

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DTE Energy has purchased two properties near Third Street and Bagley and plans a downtown revitalization project that it hopes will stimulate retail and cultural development in its neighborhood of western Detroit.

The purchase prices were not disclosed. Last December, DTE purchased the old Salvation Army building adjacent to its headquarters off Bagley and a triangular lot with two empty buildings along Grand River and First Street across the street from the Grand Army of the Republic Building.

Spokeswoman Randi Berris said DTE would like to convert the Salvation Army building, which has been shuttered for 20 years, into retail uses, with a possible restaurant and office space. The triangular lot will be developed into a park that will become the focal point of the neighborhood, she said.

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http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130702/NEWS/130709965/potential-for-mini-campus-martius-in-dtes-plan-for-western-detroit

That title should probably western downtown Detroit neighborhood... but nonetheless, nice to see something going on there. They plan on following in the footsteps of Illitch and Gilbert. Though nothing mentioned about DTE's campus which is gated, mostly greenspace, and takes up a huge chunk of the area.

Seems kinda odd to me that they'd want to create a public park outside of their campus given that their campus is pretty much a park without tables. Maybe plans for housing at some point in the future? :sly:

LMich
Jul 3, 2013, 7:20 AM
The orginal campus redevelopment should have kept the public in mind when they built those impressive plazas, but this is the next best thing. Though, I would have liked to have seen a structure on that corner. I think all triangular corners in the downtnown area should be treated to a building on them if only for the unique sight-lines it creates. I'd always imagined residential towers in this corner of downtown, particularly prior to the MGM Grand development, but it could still work.

The big thing, here, is the redevelopment of the Salvation Army Building, if you ask me. So many times these stand-alone historic buildings in the core get brought down "just because".

LMich
Jul 3, 2013, 11:23 AM
The Freep has two stories out this morning concerning the planned I-94 expansion (and the I-75 expansion in Oakland County). The most important thing to take from this is that MDOT has not even put out bids for designs, yet, so it's possible to still stop this thing if enough voices are heard and folks make this a political issue in Lansing...

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130703&Category=NEWS05&ArtNo=307030041&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Some-Detroiters-fear-impact-losing-neighborhood-94-construction

Some Detroiters fear impact of losing neighborhood to I-94 construction (http://www.freep.com/article/20130703/NEWS05/307030041/)

By Michael Lewis and Emma Ockerman | Detroit Free Press

July 3, 2013

Govinda Prabhupada, 47, has lived in the beige two-story house at 6991 Antoinette, near the Wayne State University campus, for more than four years.

He has been in the neighborhood since he was 19, kept there by a constant stream of activity and nice neighbors.

But the house is in the cross hairs of a plan to reconstruct I-94 in the area, adding a lane on each side and constructing service drives. His is one of about 100 properties that could be acquired in reconstruction efforts on I-94 and I-75.

The $36-billion transit plan, approved last month by the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments’ general assembly, calls for reconstructing I-75 between 8 Mile Road and M-59 in Oakland County and I-94 from Conner to I-96 in Detroit.

“I’m met with dismay and sadness. If we lose that neighborhood, we are losing a vital part of the city and the art community,” Prabhupada said Tuesday while at home with friends.

Michigan Department of Transportation spokesman Rob Morosi said the freeway expansions will help alleviate traffic congestion during peak travel times. The service drives will help keep traffic flowing.

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hudkina
Jul 3, 2013, 5:38 PM
Why would they even need to touch the houses north of the freeway. There's plenty of land for expansion between the freeway and Hendrie on the south. We're talking nearly 500 feet from sidewalk to sidewalk.

animatedmartian
Jul 3, 2013, 6:39 PM
Why would they even need to touch the houses north of the freeway. There's plenty of land for expansion between the freeway and Hendrie on the south. We're talking nearly 500 feet from sidewalk to sidewalk.

It's actually the section right before getting to the Lodge. It's a pretty tight squeeze already.

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http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-9621_11058_53088_53115-112105--,00.html

IMO, I don't think it's quite a dramatic 'neighborhood destroyer' considering the freeway(s) already took out most of the neighborhood(s) when it was first built but it does seem to add a little bit of disconnect to both sides of the freeway by removing a few bridges.

LMich
Jul 4, 2013, 7:15 AM
To me, this opposition to this is more about symbolism than it is about the physical damage it will cause. If anything, we should be talking about capping and removing freeways that cut through the urban core, and yet the region is actually planning to make the cuts through the urban area wider, and in the most depopulated municipality in the urban area, no less.

JonathanGRR
Jul 5, 2013, 6:08 AM
I guess in an ideal world where I-75 was removed downtown (or capped) along with the Lodge and Chrysler being pushed back to I-94, the expansion would inevitably have to take place anyway. Therefore, even under a plan of urban renewal, the freeway would have to be expanded. What irks me is how many bridges will simply not be replaced.

animatedmartian
Jul 5, 2013, 7:58 PM
According to Brush Park Preservation Society (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brush-Park-Preservation-Society/305798442769511?ref=stream&hc_location=stream), 64 Watson - The Devon Building is scheduled for demolition.

Though I can't tell if it's a full demolition or partial demolition which is supposedly what's planned. I get the feeling it's just the partial demolition.

It's the grayish building in the center here.
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The plan is presumably to demolish the back half of the structure and convert the front half into 4 condos (http://www.modeldmedia.com/devnews/devon011111.aspx).

I actually quite like the design and it doesn't seem all the complicated. It'd be cool if more of these were built to become modern rowhomes.

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/pages/64-Watson-The-Devon-Building/156001704452304

LMich
Jul 8, 2013, 7:31 AM
It's actually a walk-up apartment building, but I'd like to see more of these, too. I'd actually like to see Detroit gets back to its small apartment building past, where you had many of these on residential corners (and sometimes mid-block) intermixed with the single-family homes. You could also build these (with less expensive interiors) in poorer neighborhood, too, to replace some of the single-family housing.

animatedmartian
Jul 8, 2013, 3:03 PM
It's not really real development per se (it'll be demolished as soon as they're done with it), but for a little while Detroit while have a little Chinatown on the old Statler site.

TRANSFORMERS 4's Asian Town Set Construction in Detroit is Taking Shape

By TheDailySuperHero - 7/8/2013

Construction crews for Transformers 4 have been building an Asian town in Downtown Detroit for a couple weeks now and it's finally starting to take shape. Filming at this location, which is at Washington Blvd. near Grand Circus Park, is scheduled to begin in early August.

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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheDailySuperHero/news/?a=82833

hudkina
Jul 8, 2013, 6:00 PM
So it's now politically incorrect to say Chinatown? LOL

BTW, I actually like the plans for that particular building. Demolishing the back half isn't a great loss, and it's kind of a neat mix between modern and historic.

JonathanGRR
Jul 9, 2013, 3:50 AM
That townhouse does look rather nice! ...Part of me would like to keep the Chinatown too. haha

Renovations have begun on the Riverfront Towers Apartments. It looks like there won't be too much work done on the outside besides landscaping:

Renderings: $5 million renovation of Riverfront Towers Apartments begins
David Muller | July 8, 2013

DETROIT, MI – The Hayman Company has begun construction and renovation work on the Riverfront Towers Apartments at 100 Riverfront Ave. in downtown Detroit.

The 24-acre, three-building property, which The Hayman Company took control of in November, is the former living space of Motown icons such as Aretha Franklin, Rosa Parks and Coleman Young. The project is expected to cost more than $5 million.

Renovations call for upgrades to all apartments, including new appliances, plumbing and interior work, as well as remodeling all hallways and lobby spaces (see renderings), updating elevators and installing new roofing. There will also be upgrades to the property’s security system and outdoor landscape.

The Hayman Company will be leasing the building, and said in a release that the two towers’ occupancy rate has already gone from 60 percent to 94 percent in the past six months.

“The time was right for ensuring these riverfront jewels are part of the downtown living equation,” Andrew Hayman, president of The Hayman Company, said in a statement. “Things are happening in the city today that haven’t taken place in decades. We’re aiming to once again be at that epicenter.”
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http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2013/07/renderings_5_million_renovatio.html#incart_river

Rizzo
Jul 9, 2013, 4:55 AM
The Devon proposal is bad-ass awesome.

LMich
Jul 9, 2013, 12:39 PM
Renovations have begun on the Riverfront Towers Apartments. It looks like there won't be too much work done on the outside besides landscaping:

http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2013/07/renderings_5_million_renovatio.html#incart_river

I've always wished they'd build more towers, as when these apartments are properly managed, they rarely have vacancies. With the Joe's days numbered, maybe an ambitious and visionary developer could take the development east. Or, maybe to the west. Anyone know who owns the large parcel directly adjacent and to the west of the current complex?

I'd also like to see the transportation infrastructure reconfigured in this area, particularly for pedestrians. Just because of how the Lodge meets Jefferson beneath Cobo, you're never going to really connect the towers to downtown in a seamless way, but I think you could really develop up along Sixth to join them with Corktown better, and from there across the Lodge to central part of downtown.

subterranean
Jul 9, 2013, 4:26 PM
Jefferson is about to get a facelift, likely making it more ped friendly, between cobo and I-375. Probably nothing major, though.

animatedmartian
Jul 9, 2013, 9:38 PM
More small restaurants coming on to the scene.

Handsome, rustic Ottava Via restaurant in Corktown nears opening
By Sylvia Rector July 9, 2013

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The turn-of-the-century Dime Savings Bank branch at the corner of Michigan and Eighth in Corktown is expected to open soon as Ottava Via — Italian for Eighth Street — with a menu of meats and cheeses, salads, small plates, Neapolitan-style pizzas, and a small, carefully chosen group of entrees.

The restaurant and staff are ready to go as soon as final inspections are complete, owners David Steinke and Tim Springstead said Monday. Both men are also involved in other nearby businesses: Steinke is co-owner of Mercury Burger & Bar farther north on Michigan and Springstead is co-owner of Nemo’s, directly across the street.

The strikingly handsome main dining room — the old bank lobby with towering ceilings and suspended globe lighting — is decorated in an eclectic blend of rustic reclaimed furniture, Italian market fixtures and antique objets d’art.

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http://www.freep.com/article/20130709/ENT08/307090087/Detroit-restaurants-Corktown-Ottava-Via

Fatburger Dreams Big in Midtown
July 9, 2013, by Paul Beshouri

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It's been two years in the making, but Midtown's very own iteration of Beverly Hills-based burger outlet Fatburger is apparently hurtling toward an opening before the end of July 2013.

An Eater Detroit source wandered by the Studio One building earlier today and noticed an open door and a parked car with the space's developer inside conveniently located nearby. The space, which has had signs advertising the coming burger onslaught for years, is aiming for a July 29 opening, according to Great Lakes Fast Food general manager Gary Shelton, the local Fatburger franchisee.

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http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2013/07/fatburger-claims-a-midtown-storefront-plans-to-open-soon.php

LMich
Jul 10, 2013, 7:30 AM
Jefferson is about to get a facelift, likely making it more ped friendly, between cobo and I-375. Probably nothing major, though.

Hadn't heard of this. Does the city have a webpage detailing exactly what the project consists of? Speaking of street redos, I'm pretty sure Woodward is being redone in the coming months, yet MDOT doesn't have the project up on its website, so I don't know.

It's not a horrible streetscape, as it is. The only problem is that it's so damned wide. lol But, even that can't really be remedied, as the reason it's so wide is because two freeways terminate into not even a mile apart. :(

uaarkson
Jul 10, 2013, 1:37 PM
Has there been any news on the M1 project? It's supposed to start soon.

LMich
Jul 10, 2013, 1:44 PM
Has there been any news on the M1 project? It's supposed to start soon.

Construction is still scheduled to start next month. A Crain's article from about three weeks ago reported that they were still selecting from bids for a construction manager and general contractor (the bids were in by May 24), so that process is running a bit behind, but they are still saying that construction is scheduled for next month. BTW, construction will include replacing the Woodward Avenue bridge over the Ford Freeway.

A second bid is going out later in the year for the maintenance and vehicle storage facility near the north end of the line. After that will come the bid for the actual streetcars while the line in under construction, and then the last bid is finding and operator for the system. That bid comes in December or early next year.

So, that's the timeline.

LMich
Jul 12, 2013, 12:13 PM
Hadn't even hrd about this:

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20130712&Category=ENT05&ArtNo=307110167&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&New-Opera-House-seats-boast-Detroit-Tigers-baseball-hot-dogs-burgers

New Opera House seats boast Detroit Tigers baseball, hot dogs, burgers (http://www.freep.com/article/20130712/ENT05/307110167/Detroit-Tigers-skybox-Opera-House)

by Mark Stryker | Detroit Free Press

July 12, 2013

You won’t be able to see Mozart, Verdi or Wagner from the newest nosebleed seats at the Detroit Opera House. But you will be able to catch Cabrera, Fielder and Verlander. And when Miggy knocks one out of the park, it’s permissible to yell, “Bravo!”

The Coors Light Sky Deck at the Detroit Opera House celebrates its grand opening Friday, offering a rooftop beer garden, modest aluminum bleachers and a one-of-a-kind view straight into Comerica Park from straightaway center field that takes in nearly the entire diamond. You know what the real estate folks say:

Location. Location. Location.

Nobody will mistake the Sky Deck experience for the peerless intensity of sitting inside the ballpark. It’s approximately 450 feet from the roof to the center field wall, which means it’s a little more than 900 feet from home plate. By comparison, some of the famous rooftop seats across the street from Wrigley Field in Chicago are as close as 450 feet from home plate.

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animatedmartian
Jul 15, 2013, 2:00 PM
What's best verdict for jail site?
By Dustin Walsh
July 14, 2013

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In the middle of a 60-day construction moratorium on the over-budget, half-built Wayne County Jail site, the county is asking developers: What now?

Wayne County launched a request for information on June 26, calling for proposals to redevelop the five justice properties controlled by the county, including the jail construction site, the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice, the juvenile detention center and both of the current jail sites.

Real estate brokers and developers wax poetic on the area's possible uses -- an expanded entertainment district, new office space or mixed-use developments -- but the county says it needs the financials to match up.

The county issued $200 million in bonds to pay for the jail in December 2010 after the county commission approved the sale of up to $300 million in bonds for the project. But the project quickly went over budget with a final price tag of $391 million, prompting the county to halt the construction June 7.

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However, the costs of demolishing the existing infrastructure could be a hurdle for developers, said a local construction expert who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"It's going to be very expensive," the source said. "Given the design of a jail and how stout those buildings are, it's going to be a premium to knock down and repurpose those properties."

Cullen said the cost of redevelopment is a concern, but he stressed that the decision on a future development isn't on the table of discussion yet.

"Is it a complicated development? Sure, but mainly because no one knows what they are developing yet," Cullen said. "It's not like the county is going to get a binding offer through the RFI, but an analysis should be sufficient to get the ball rolling."

Lee said the county won't settle for a bargain-basement real estate offer.

"Whatever we do needs to make overall economic sense" for the county, Lee said. "If a buyer comes out and says, 'We've got a package that will make you whole,' we may have a deal. But if someone brings a lowball offer, we'll find a way to finish the current project."

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130714/NEWS/307149969/whats-best-verdict-for-jail-site

A while ago, I had saw on Detroit's zoning map that the site that the new jail is going up on was originally zoned for high density residential/mixed use development. So I've always imagined high-rise residential going there. But if there's enough interest to redevelop the entire district, there's a really good chance for creating a continuous neighborhood from Greektown to Ford Field and Comerica Park.

And ya know, to step back for a moment, just about every corner of downtown supposedly has interest for development. The only area still with tumbleweeds is the area between Michigan and Fort to the Lodge. I imagine that area might become an extension of the CBD with hotels and office space.

But not to get too far ahead, my main point is that I really hope a construction boom is imminent. All these plans and ideas are floating around but so far not much terribly major has happened (aside from growth in retail) and it's kinda of a tease. :hyper:

LMich
Jul 16, 2013, 7:28 AM
I'm kind of worried about that anonymous source complaining about how hard it would be, financially, to knock down anything already built. That's really kind of code for the fact that they expect further public dollars to reclear the site, and that ain't gonna happen. I suggest that if any private developer gets the site, that they try and take what's already there and turn lemons into lemonade.

It would actually seem to me that the county just needs to finish the project, but with an abbreviated design. There always seems to be "interest", downtown, but the developers seem to think the city and county are desperate enough that they can just offer any price. It feels unseemly and vulturey. So far, only Ilitch and Gilbert are putting their money where their mouth is going from "interest" to solid plans and actual construction. All the parties in this downtown market still seem disjointed, and I'd like to see more coordination and more fair dealing on all sides, because things are doing good downntown almost in spite of many of the parties involved.

Speaking of the good things happening downtown...

Troy tech firm looking for office in downtown Detroit, hosting job fairs this week (http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2013/07/troy_tech_firm_looking_for_off.html#incart_river_default)

By David Muller | MLive.com

July 15, 2013

DETROIT, MI - Stories of data loss in the media, from Facebook breaches all the way to Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contract worker who leaked American spy activities to the press, are, in part, helping to fuel Creative Breakthrough’s growth.

“Believe or not, it’s a boon for our business,” President and CEO Steve Barone said.

Now, the Troy-based network security firm is looking to hire a variety of positions as it continues to expand and also look for a presence in downtown Detroit.

Barone said the company, which currently has 65 employees, plans to hire another 50 people before the end of the year. It is especially interested in software engineers, or at least people who have analytical skills and are interested in software development.

“My commitment to Detroit means we got to find people who maybe aren’t already out there as expert engineers, and instead we have to make them into them,” Barone said. Those candidates could be working at Best Buy, for example, but Creative Breakthroughs can then train them in-house, he said.

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Meanwhile, Barone said the company is slowly outgrowing its base in Troy, and has been looking for a space in downtown Detroit. The Detroit office would be in addition to the Troy headquarters, not in lieu of it.

“We’re looking downtown,” Barone said. “We’re talking to (Quicken Loans founder) Dan Gilbert’s group, we’re talking to a couple others. There’s a lot of cool software and innovative companies down there.”

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animatedmartian
Jul 16, 2013, 10:41 AM
Ah yes, public funding... Always forget about that. Hey where's that dude that wanted to buy Belle Isle for 1B? Maybe he'll be interested in converting some jails. :haha:

JonathanGRR
Jul 16, 2013, 10:47 PM
Short of Ford or Chrysler moving downtown, I cannot imagine the need (yet) for such a large development area that would satisfy the county's desires for the sites.

mind field
Jul 17, 2013, 3:30 AM
Troy tech firm looking for office in downtown Detroit, hosting job fairs this week


Great news!!! Downtown Detroit is undoubtedly a nexus for technology companies now, Ann Arbor better look out!