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animatedmartian
Aug 9, 2017, 12:44 AM
Also in the news...

Once fantasy, redeveloping Detroit's old train depot now seen as doable
JC Reindl, Detroit Free Press. Aug. 6, 2017.

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Closed for nearly 30 years, the massive Michigan Central Station in Detroit is widely known for its ornate architecture and haunting emptiness and decay, but so far has missed out on the surge in redevelopment happening in the city.

Now the possibility for a full renovation and reuse of the old train, long a Detroit development fantasy, could finally be approaching the realm of possibility.

Representatives for the station's owner, the family of businessman Manuel (Matty) Moroun, say that an increasing number of prospects have been touring the station to scout business opportunities.

....

The cost to rehab the station would undoubtedly be formidable and perhaps approach $300 million, according to past estimates.

The Moroun family hasn't disclosed any precise cost figures for renovation work. However, Matt Moroun, son of patriarch Manuel Moroun, told reporters last month at a news conference inside the station that rehab costs would likely exceed $100 million.

....

The station has been out of service and closed to the public since 1988. The elder Moroun bought the property in 1995.

"The challenge that we face, being very blunt with you, is (finding) a great idea that's both a great idea and economically viable," Matt Moroun said.

Various proposals have been floated over the years for what to do with the empty depot. Many of them called for installing government-backed tenants, such as an international trade and customs center or a new Detroit police headquarters. None of those notions panned out.

...
http://www.freep.com/story/money/2017/08/06/detroit-old-train-depot-michigan-station/534609001/

subterranean
Aug 9, 2017, 3:22 PM
Someone please tell me the backstory with the windows. Was this just a bandaid to get officials off their backs?

animatedmartian
Aug 9, 2017, 11:42 PM
Partly. Mayor Duggan made a deal with Matty to sell some city owned land next to the Ambassador Bridge so Matty could build his 2nd bridge to Canada (of course, Canada doesn't want a 2nd bridge there so the chances of it happening are next to impossible). On Matty's end though, Duggan wanted him to make improvements to the MCS, I guess starting with replacing the windows and the freight elevator inside.

The money the city got from Matty was then used to rehab Riverside Park. So it was a win-win all around even if Matty's win was kind of futile towards his long-term goals.

https://detroit.curbed.com/2015/7/30/9935476/city-approves-riverside-park-transfer-to-moroun-and-bridge-co

LMich
Aug 10, 2017, 5:06 AM
I'm kind of disappointed that they are talking about residential in the article. Not every historic restoration should be residential apartments and condos. I think they should use it (the tower) for what it was originally intended to be used as, at least partially. I'd also love it if Amtrak would make this the city's main station, again. Of course, other businesses would be on the groundfloor, but I'd love for Amtrak to be one of the tenants. It'd make more sense for this to be the main station, anyway, if the long-term goal is to get international service back.

Anyway, if it wasn't clear already, I think the sad story of MCS is increasingly showing how much its current fate is the result of the owner rather than economic feasibility. Because, let's be clear, had someone like Dan Gilbert purchased this five years ago, it'd already be redeveloped or well into a redevelopment. My feeling is that the building isn't redeveloped until the Moroun's sell the building or find a much more capable redeveloper to partner with, because they are both unwilling and incapable of the vision for the redevelopment of a building like this. It'd be nothing to redevelop the tower, and you've got a plot for a parking garage over at the Roosevelt warehouse or even over the rail platforms out back if one is needed to support the structure. I've never bought the excuse about how logistically diffult it would be for MCS to work, again, or the "it's too far from dowtown" excuse, particularly if you were able to land a single tenant for the office space. Sure, it'd be harder to attract law offices or something than it would in a downtown location, but not every office tenant needs that synergy.

subterranean
Aug 10, 2017, 3:11 PM
Partly. Mayor Duggan made a deal with Matty to sell some city owned land next to the Ambassador Bridge so Matty could build his 2nd bridge to Canada (of course, Canada doesn't want a 2nd bridge there so the chances of it happening are next to impossible). On Matty's end though, Duggan wanted him to make improvements to the MCS, I guess starting with replacing the windows and the freight elevator inside.

The money the city got from Matty was then used to rehab Riverside Park. So it was a win-win all around even if Matty's win was kind of futile towards his long-term goals.

https://detroit.curbed.com/2015/7/30/9935476/city-approves-riverside-park-transfer-to-moroun-and-bridge-co


Thanks, I appreciate it.

Docta_Love
Aug 11, 2017, 7:41 PM
Van Dyke Manor in Detroit sells for $2.5 million

By KURT NAGL
Crain's Detroit Business
August 10, 2017

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The Van Dyke Manor, a 38-unit apartment building near the east Detroit riverfront, has switched ownership for the second time in two years.

Silva Property Management recently purchased the historic building at 1000 Van Dyke and East Lafayette for $2.54 million and immediately began renovations to unoccupied units, said Paul Silva, owner of the company. The apartments will be renamed 1000 West after renovations are complete.

Cary Belovicz, of Greystone Bel Real Estate Advisors, part of New York City-based Greystone and Co., represented the buyer and seller in the transaction.

...

Renovations are expected to take a couple of years, Silva said. As most units are occupied, the timeline depends on when units become available to update.

Silva declined to say how much he is investing in the project, only that it is "significant."

Silva Property Management, which also operates the apartments, is planning to modernize the units with washers and dryers, stainless steel appliances and wood floors as well as replacing the building's parking lot and roof and possibly adding units.

"The challenge is keeping the charm of the vintage building but upgrading it with today's amenities," he said.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170810/news/636031/van-dyke-manor-in-detroit-sells-for-25-million


Mudgie's building in Corktown sells; deli to remain open

By KIRK PINHO
Crain's Detroit Business
August 11, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/Mudgies_i.jpg?itok=Rz_LerbP

The building housing the popular Mudgie's Deli & Wine Shop in Detroit's Corktown sold Thursday, along with an adjacent apartment property and parking lot.

Mudgie's, owned and operated by Greg Mudge at 1300 Porter St., will remain open on a long-term lease.

The properties were sold to a joint venture between Birmingham-based Lutz Real Estate Investments and New York City-based Gould Investors LP, according to a news release from Lutz.

The sale price was $813,000, according to Bill Swanson of Detroit-based O’Connor Real Estate. The properties had been listed for sale for $850,000.

"We responded immediately when we were presented the opportunity to purchase properties with a long-term tenant anchoring an iconic building located in an expanding area like Corktown," Jon Epstein, an associate with Lutz, said in a statement.

Kyle Shenfield of Gould said the company is looking to "build a large portfolio in Detroit."

The properties were built in 1912 and contain a total of 6,200 square feet, according to the listing.

According to Eater Detroit, Mary Jane McNally, who had been the building's owner, died in late 2015 and her family was selling the building.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170811/news/636086/mudgies-building-in-corktown-sells-deli-to-remain-open


Ballmer Group opening Detroit office to focus on poverty

By SHERRI WELCH
Crain's Detroit Business
August 11, 2017

Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and his wife Connie are opening a Detroit office for their charitable foundation, the Ballmer Group.

The news was announced in a job posting for an executive director with strong Detroit roots and networks across the public, private and social services sectors.

The move comes less than a year after the pair said they plan to donate large amounts of their now $32.3 billion fortune to help eradicate intergenerational poverty in Detroit. Ballmer is a Detroit native.

The position "is a newly created role reflecting Ballmer Group's commitment to alleviating intergenerational poverty in a city where the Ballmer family has deep roots," the foundation said in the posting.

Among other responsibilities, the new leader will be charged with developing and managing a multimillion dollar budget for Detroit grants, initiatives and partnerships, reporting to the foundation's managing director and the Ballmers.

...

Among other strategies, the Ballmer Group said it is making unrestricted, long-term grants over five to 10 years to support national and regional organizations with demonstrated impact in improving economic mobility for children and families.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170811/news/636076/ballmer-group-opening-detroit-office-to-focus-on-poverty

The North One
Aug 12, 2017, 12:23 AM
When somebody is worth billions upon billions of dollars it is their human obligation to give most of that back. Glad he's focused on Detroit, some transit infrastructure grants would be nice.

dc_denizen
Aug 12, 2017, 2:51 AM
Better to use the billions to invest and develop property in Detroit. Detroit needs economic activity not charity.

The North One
Aug 12, 2017, 3:18 AM
Incidentally, that is also happening. :D

deja vu
Aug 12, 2017, 12:07 PM
I'm kind of disappointed that they are talking about residential in the article. Not every historic restoration should be residential apartments and condos. I think they should use it (the tower) for what it was originally intended to be used as, at least partially. I'd also love it if Amtrak would make this the city's main station, again. Of course, other businesses would be on the groundfloor, but I'd love for Amtrak to be one of the tenants. It'd make more sense for this to be the main station, anyway, if the long-term goal is to get international service back.

Anyway, if it wasn't clear already, I think the sad story of MCS is increasingly showing how much its current fate is the result of the owner rather than economic feasibility. Because, let's be clear, had someone like Dan Gilbert purchased this five years ago, it'd already be redeveloped or well into a redevelopment. My feeling is that the building isn't redeveloped until the Moroun's sell the building or find a much more capable redeveloper to partner with, because they are both unwilling and incapable of the vision for the redevelopment of a building like this. It'd be nothing to redevelop the tower, and you've got a plot for a parking garage over at the Roosevelt warehouse or even over the rail platforms out back if one is needed to support the structure. I've never bought the excuse about how logistically diffult it would be for MCS to work, again, or the "it's too far from dowtown" excuse, particularly if you were able to land a single tenant for the office space. Sure, it'd be harder to attract law offices or something than it would in a downtown location, but not every office tenant needs that synergy.

Well-put.

mousquet
Aug 12, 2017, 12:31 PM
Better to use the billions to invest and develop property in Detroit. Detroit needs economic activity not charity.

Bah, successful businessmen to pay back society by their private charity initiatives is said to be something very American here.

I find it cool, but here in Europe, and in France in particular, mindset and approach in that matter are not exactly the same. It's up to public authorities to enforce so called charity, or social policies, cause locals are rather distrustful. Lol, they simply think personal initiatives can't make up for excessive greed, and that the rich won't ever be generous or understanding enough. For that reason, in my country, taxes keep hitting the rich and successful businesses pretty hard, which is quite awkward and often ineffective given the trend that currently runs global economy.

So, I couldn't tell who's right in that respect... Assuming both methods may be both right and wrong, depending on cases or situations. I think the rich are usually able of empathy to the poor anyway. There's no reason to disparage them as if they were lunatic psychopaths, but let's just put it this way: they're most often not in real touch with social realities because of social divides. Inequalities (the gap between the rich and the poor) are truly alarming in today's US society, as if people wouldn't live the same world depending on their bank accounts. That's a bit mad for real.

Docta_Love
Aug 12, 2017, 5:34 PM
Hopefully good news, this is if better owners are found. There are some significant/important buildings in his portfolio the Michigan Theater Building is the most famous (8 Mile).

30 Detroit properties owned by Kefallinos for sale
From the Michigan Theater to Harvard Square Centre

BY MICHELLE GOLDCHAIN
AUG 9, 2017
Curbed Detroit

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For decades, Dennis Kefallinos has invested in Detroit real estate, but it looks like he’s now pulling out. Dozens of Kefallinos’ properties in Detroit and Hamtramck are now up for grabs, including the Harvard Square Centre high-rise and the Michigan Theater Building. Crain’s Detroit Business reported that Kefallinos is selling a total of 30 properties, or 2.3 million square feet on more than 100 acres of land.

None of Kefallinos’ residential properties are for sale. Part of the reason why is because almost all of them are tied up in lawsuits, according to MLive. The Russell Industrial Center property is also not on the market.

There are no reports yet on the reasoning behind this massive sale.

Below, see the full list of properties that are now on the market:

Roosevelt Hotel (2250 14th Street)

Shapero Hall, former Wayne State University school building (1401 Rivard Street)

Harvard Square Centre (1346 Broadway Street)

Michigan Theater Building (220 Bagley Street)

Perlex building (2821 E. Grand Boulevard)

227 Adelaide Street

Former Burton International School/Franklin Elementary School (1333 Pine Street)

Former Caesar Chavez school (1548 Porter Street)

Vacant riverfront property (1801 W. Fort Street)

Industrial building (1221 Rosa Parks Boulevard)

Former distribution building (1982 W. Jefferson Avenue)

Former southwest Detroit hospital (2401 20th Street)

Topor's Pickle and Food Service building (2850 Standish Street)

Fairmont Creamery building (600 E. Milwaukee Avenue)

Perlex building (2821 E. Grand Boulevard)

Russell Street industrial building (5845 Russell Street)

Office building (10201 Joseph Campau Avenue)

Southern Fires restaurant building (575 Bellevue Street)

Goeschel Building (3230 Gratiot Avenue)

Former Pfeiffer Brewing Co. building (3700 Beaufait Street)

Bellevue industrial property (2425 Bellevue Street)

Former Joe's Marine building (547 Lycaste Street)

Former Midwest Cabinet and Counter property (630 Lycaste Street)

Former Anna M. Joyce Elementary School building (8411 Sylvester Street)

Former southwest Detroit YMCA building (1601 Clark Street)

Former Roberts Brass Co. building (5435 W. Fort Street)

Former Wayne Foundry and Stamping Co. building (3100 Hubbard Street)

Building (3944, 3948, and 3950 Michigan Avenue)

Former Thorn Apple Valley slaughterhouse (2902 Orleans Street)

Land (1825 Division Street)

Former Hoban Cold Storage Co. property (1599 E. Warren Avenue)

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/9/16118556/kefallinos-detroit-hamtramck-for-sale


City kicks off mission to board up 11,000 blighted houses

By Annalise Frank and Chad Livengood
Crain's Detroit Business
August 10, 2017

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The city of Detroit plans to board up 11,000 blighted homes over the next two years, Mayor Mike Duggan announced Thursday at a kick-off event in the southwest neighborhood of Boynton.

The launch comes two days after Duggan and state Sen. Coleman Young II advanced in the mayoral election primary. Duggan carried a healthy lead — 67 percent — but serious questions remain over whether the mayor has done enough for Detroiters living outside the city's rapidly developing downtown.

Called the Board Up Brigades, this most recent initiative is part of Duggan's work over the past several months to answer that very question.

"It's probably something we should have done before," Duggan said Thursday after kicking off of the program.

The mayor said in May that his administration planned to board up houses that weren't in the immediate pipeline for demolition within the next six months, Crain's reported.

Under the plan, all of Detroit's estimated 25,000 blighted homes would be torn down, rehabilitated or secured, according to a city news release. About 9,000 are set for demolition, 5,000 would be rehabbed and then occupied and the 11,000 or so remaining would be boarded up.

The two-year board-up project will cost about $9 million, which comes from general fund money that is designated for blight removal, city spokesman John Roach said.

...

The city's Department of Neighborhoods has hired 22 workers for the Board Up Brigades crews, including 13 Detroiters who were previously incarcerated, Duggan said at the event. The city plans to hire a total of 40 people — up to 20 of them people returning from prison — as well as contract with two yet-to-be-determined community organizations.

Board Up Brigades workers said they're making between $10 and $13 an hour.

...

About 40,000 abandoned homes dotted the city's landscape in January 2014, according to the release. About 12,000 have been demolished and 3,000 rehabbed since then.

Docta_Love
Aug 15, 2017, 8:04 PM
Tony Hawk test drives new Wayfinding skatepark in Detroit

By ANNALISE FRANK
August 15, 2017
Crain's Detroit Business

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/wayfinding%20skate%20park-main_i.jpg?itok=4bgKkN4E
(Professional skateboarder Tony Hawk tested out the new Wayfinding skatepark Tuesday at a media preview event for the Wednesday opening of the public park and art installation created by artist Ryan McGinness. Hawk helped design the park.)


The temporary skatepark Tony Hawk helped bring to the future Monroe Blocks development in downtown Detroit could spur creation of more permanent skating infrastructure in the city, the professional skateboarder said Tuesday.

Wayfinding, a 4,600-square-foot skatepark and art installation opens to the public Wednesday.

....

The temporary public park will be located at 100 Monroe Ave. near Campus Martius until the first phase of construction on the two-block Monroe project starts in early 2018, Bedrock President Dan Mullen said. Then it will be winter and the moveable skatepark will likely shift to an indoor location, Mullen said.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_image/public/wayfinding%20skatepark-02_i.jpg?itok=xmSOI-Ks

"I feel like (Wayfinding) is gonna be a catalyst for other projects," Hawk told Crain's. Asked if he planned to involve himself in future Detroit skatepark endeavors, Hawk said he hoped for a move toward installing skateparks in the city that are more official and "not gonna get torn down." He referenced the "Wig project," a skatepark at the former Wigle Recreation Center site whose days are numbered: Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan announced in April that a $77 million development was planned for the location on the west side of Midtown. Hawk visited the Wig last August, according to his Instagram account.

"I feel like skating is something that is definitely a big part of Detroit, but something that hasn't been very well supported in terms of facilities, so this is one step in that right direction," Hawk said, speaking to an audience before he donned his helmet, grabbed his board and hit the ramps.

It looks from his Instagram that Hawk visited the Ride It Sculpture Park project while in Detroit this week. In 2013, the Tony Hawk Foundation awarded $30,000 to the Ride It Sculpture Park project along the Davison Freeway.

Hawk, a California native, and his family bought a home in the Woodbridge neighborhood in 2016.

"It's no secret we purchased a place here and we love it every time (we visit)," he said

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170815/news/636391/tony-hawk-test-drives-new-wayfinding-skatepark-in-detroit


Woodward Dream Cruise to drive nearly $240 million into local economy

By KURT NAGL
Crain's Detroit Business
August 15, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/WDC%202016_autoweek_i.jpg?itok=xLCNLmc3

As the annual Woodward Dream Cruise, which marks its 23rd year this week, continues to grow it is expected to inject nearly $240 million into the metro Detroit economy — an annual impact rivaled only by the North American International Auto Show, the Metro Detroit Convention and Visitors Bureau says.

Spanning 16 miles of Woodward Avenue from Pontiac to Ferndale, the cruise of classic and muscle cars is expected to attract more than 1.3 million people and 40,000 cars, according to the MDCVB.

"It really ties in with our heritage," said Michael O'Callaghan, vice president and COO of the MDCVB. "The cruise is a message that the region is healthy and remains the capital of the auto industry."

The bureau estimates that 26 percent of visitors — 338,000 people — come from out of the region, spending a total of $84 million. About 36 percent stay overnight, booking a total of 122,000 room nights. More than 960,000 local attendees are expected to spend $153 million.

"It's arguably the biggest week of the year for metro Detroit," O'Callaghan said, adding that the days leading up to the event pack in just as much party and excitement.

The events officially kicks off at 5 p.m. Friday with a ribbon-cutting ceremony in Ferndale. The actual cruise runs 9 a.m.-9 p.m. Saturday.

Traffic jams and high energy are a mainstay, but there are a few new elements to this year's cruise.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170815/news/636316/woodward-dream-cruise-to-drive-nearly-240-million-into-local-economy

LMich
Aug 16, 2017, 1:28 PM
This comeback has been kind of under the radar for years, now, but up Woodward, Pontiac has been storming back:

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/14/-b7af991cd12f0b9b.JPG
Tanya Moutzalias | MLive.com

Thousands of jobs, billions of investment headed for Pontiac, developers say (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/08/mayor_thinks_resurging_pontiac.html#incart_river_home)

By Dana Afana | MLive.com

August 16, 2017

PONTIAC -- Pontiac's leaders say the city is on the verge of making major strides toward a comeback as a major economic hub in Metro Detroit.

The city's resurgence, however, won't be based on an over reliance on auto manufacturing this time, and instead supported by a series of developments and corporate moves diversifying its economy.

Waterman noted Downtown Pontiac will see an additional spur of developments and businesses in the city, including emerging tech hub and 3D printing industries, "particularly Peter Karmanos (who) brought in the five Maddog consortium of high-tech industries."

By 2018, Williams International, an aerospace defense contractor will move its headquarters to Pontiac from Commerce Township, bringing 500 jobs and a $1.5-billion investment over eight years, Waterman said.

Troy-based United Shore, a wholesale mortgage brokerage firm, announce plant to move headquarters and 2,100 jobs to Pontiac, Waterman added. Construction will begin in January.

Southfield-based developer REDICO is also constructing the Village at Bloomfield on a failed $500-million retail and housing development site. The previous developer spent nearly $300 million on the site, formerly dubbed "Bloomfield Park," but halted construction in 2008.

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/14/-4276f31e4ffa15ea.JPG
Tanya Mouztalias | MLive.com

animatedmartian
Aug 16, 2017, 2:54 PM
Latvian-American and Detroit-based architect Gunnar Birkerts has passed away at the age of 92. (http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/john-gallagher/2017/08/15/detroit-architect-gunnar-birkerts-dies/569479001/) Arriving in the Detroit area during 1949, his time spent here helped add a dose of modernism to the cityscape. His works include;

1300 Lafayette (guy in the middle),

http://i.imgur.com/qs6NXEJ.jpg
https://1300lafayetteeast.com/

University of Detroit Fisher Brothers Administration Center
http://i.imgur.com/LehAZmv.jpg
http://www.michiganmodern.org/buildings/university-of-detroit-fisher-brothers-administration-center

IBM regional offices in Southfield,
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5212/5497299532_c6eeeb9fd5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/9nM6Cq)
IBM Regional Office Building, Southfield (1975) Gunnar Birkerts (https://flic.kr/p/9nM6Cq) by Michigan State Historic Preservation Office (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mishpo/), on Flickr
http://www.michiganmodern.org/buildings/international-business-machines-regional-office-building

...and the Calvary Baptist Church in Elmwood Park.

http://i.imgur.com/VBJ0pcq.jpg
http://www.infinitemiledetroit.com/30_MODERNIST_CHURCHES_06_48207.html http://www.michiganmodern.org/buildings/calvary-baptist-church

Other works include designs he created while working for Perkins and Will, Eero Saarinen, and Minoru Yamasaki. Quite a few in the Detroit area, many in the Midwest, and some in Europe. RIP to a great local architect.

It seems like Detroit is known for it's 100 year old architecture, but there is quite a lot of modernism built during the middle part of the 20th century. Though it's also when Detroit had its greatest suburban expansion so many cool and unique buildings get lost in the far spreading blandness of suburbia. Well, here's hoping to another 100 years of great architecture in Detroit. :cheers:

Docta_Love
Aug 16, 2017, 11:34 PM
Midtown’s Cathedral Tower will be renovated for $12M
The delivery is slated for 2020

BY MICHELLE GOLDCHAIN
AUG 7, 2017
Curbed Detroit

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Starting early 2019, Midtown’s affordable housing development, Cathedral Tower, is going to get a $12 million renovation.

Currently, the 1972-built building offers 236 residential units, targeted for households making 80 percent or less of the area median income. Once the renovations are complete by 2020, the building, located at 80 E. Hancock Street, will offer upgraded kitchens and bathrooms, new windows, and updated heating and cooling systems, as reported by Crain’s Detroit Business. The building’s units will also shift to those making 60 percent or less of the area median income.

Crain’s Detroit Business reported, “[This is] the first affordable housing scheduled to be renovated using financing in part from Dan Gilbert's Bedrock LLC under an agreement approved by the city late last month.”

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/7/16106886/midtown-cathedral-tower-renovation

Docta_Love
Aug 17, 2017, 5:58 PM
Now this would be cool

Aretha Franklin in talks with Bedrock to open nightclub in Detroit
By TYLER CLIFFORD
Crain's Detroit Business
August 17, 2017

While legendary singer Aretha Franklin plans to retire this year and move from her Bloomfield Hills home back to Detroit, her longtime desire to open a nightclub in her hometown is taking shape.

The Queen of Soul told the Detroit Free Press that she is working with Dan Gilbert-owned Bedrock Detroit LLC to find just the right spot.

"Bedrock would love to work with Aretha and we look forward to hearing her ideas for a club downtown," President Dan Mullen said in a statement Thursday.

The 75-year-old Grammy-winning entertainer wants to call the small club Aretha's, where she would perform "from time to time" and host other performers, she told Detroit Free Press.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170817/news/636601/aretha-franklin-in-talks-with-bedrock-to-open-nightclub-in-detroit

LMich
Aug 17, 2017, 8:37 PM
Oh, that would be really good. I'd like to see a grown-folks club in downtown or close to it.

LMich
Aug 18, 2017, 10:38 AM
Someone over at urbanplanet is saying that the site for The Ashton in the west end of downtown is fenced off and signaged is up:

https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_image/public/main_image/7870391/NEWS_170419964_AR_0_MOGSOLMLCBPH.jpg?itok=MGQQd4_6&key=a12718ce72c6f8739d28ed8eed7f32a9cce4fbaf0e54b55a2d71180caf75cbd3

http://ashtondetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Ashton-Detroit2.jpg

http://ashtondetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Ashton-Detroit-Pool.jpg

The Ashton includes 96 luxury apartments (including 5 penthouse suites), ground floor retail, and parking. The fourth floor includes a grassed outdoor terrace and indoor fitness and yoga rooms, an indoor pool, concierge and an outdoor wooden deck on the opposite side the building as the grassed terrace.

In other news, the owner of the Fisher Building in New Center are renovating the parking garage, which included a giant mural being painted:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Z8QPYXw900fW7w6a-Ybljm93fhk=/0x0:2914x2914/920x613/filters:focal(1224x1224:1690x1690)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56220109/IMG_5466_4_.0.jpg
Courtesy of The Platform

Docta_Love
Aug 18, 2017, 5:19 PM
Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue building starts power washing, facade improvements

BY ROBIN RUNYAN
AUG 18, 2017
Curbed Detroit

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ap6SPaERPfLlhFm9t-Wt9MJ6ysc=/0x0:2048x1365/920x613/filters:focal(861x520:1187x846):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56258259/Downtown_111.0.jpg

Located in the heart of a lot of redevelopment and improvements going on in Detroit, one of the most recognizable and unique buildings downtown is getting spruced up. The Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue, the cool triangular building with the colorful windows, is finally getting power washed with exterior improvements on the way.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xCvI7bYn9J22kLu96n8jDzBSvFU=/1000x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9074019/Downtown_112.jpg

Executive Director Arlene Frank tells Curbed that the alley side and north side were washed last week and the front facade this week. More improvements are coming this fall, with a roof replacement and new fire escape. In the spring, expect a large mural to be painted on the back wall. Frank says she’s not sure if/when the building has undergone a power washing like this (does anyone out there know?)

The building is situated close to many major renovations downtown. It’s just down the street from the David Stott Building, and you can see the Book Tower, which has undergone its own power washing for the first time in decades, behind the Synagogue. Across the street is 28 Grand, and many other buildings in the Capitol Park district continue to undergo renovations.

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/18/16168118/isaac-agree-downtown-synagogue-improvements


The Platform to convert Fisher Building floor to subsidized studios for local creatives

By SHERRI WELCH
Crain's Detroit Business
August 17, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/main_image/7937786/BLOG016_150729856_AR_-1_CYVLKKTQUDMC.jpg?itok=mZVHtWtI

The Fisher Building, a work of art in its own right, will soon house new creative energy.

The Platform LLC is converting the fourth floor of the Fisher Building into space for local creatives and arts groups offered at subsidized rates for the first three years.

The historic building "has this incredible history around being the largest art object in Detroit," said Abir Ali, director of design and culture, The Platform, one of the companies redeveloping the Fisher Building. "We wanted to pay homage to that history."

Work began in November on a $100 million effort to restore the Fisher Building and redevelop the nearby Albert Kahn Building, each owned by Detroit-based The Platform, along with New York City-based HFZ Capital Partners and New York City-based Rheal Capital Management.

Creatives whose work is conducive with locating at the Fisher Building will be welcomed, from those in the fine arts of drawing, painting and sculpture to the literary arts, design, crafts, information and advocacy to performance groups in dance or even yoga practitioners.

The Platform is looking at the full spectrum of creatives, from individuals to collectives to organizations, Ali said.

Available studios will range from 250 square feet for individual studios to 2,750 square feet for group spaces accommodating about a dozen people. They'll start at $15 per square foot, with leases in the range of $350-$3,000 per month in year one and move up to the low $20s per square foot range after the three-year incubation term, Ali said.

The studios will be white box and ready for move in this fall.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170817/news/636651/the-platform-to-convert-fisher-building-floor-to-subsidized-studios-for

deja vu
Aug 19, 2017, 3:46 AM
Latvian-American and Detroit-based architect Gunnar Birkerts has passed away at the age of 92. (http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/john-gallagher/2017/08/15/detroit-architect-gunnar-birkerts-dies/569479001/) Arriving in the Detroit area during 1949, his time spent here helped add a dose of modernism to the cityscape. His works include;

1300 Lafayette (guy in the middle),

http://i.imgur.com/qs6NXEJ.jpg
https://1300lafayetteeast.com/

University of Detroit Fisher Brothers Administration Center
http://i.imgur.com/LehAZmv.jpg
http://www.michiganmodern.org/buildings/university-of-detroit-fisher-brothers-administration-center

IBM regional offices in Southfield,
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5212/5497299532_c6eeeb9fd5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/9nM6Cq)
IBM Regional Office Building, Southfield (1975) Gunnar Birkerts (https://flic.kr/p/9nM6Cq) by Michigan State Historic Preservation Office (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mishpo/), on Flickr
http://www.michiganmodern.org/buildings/international-business-machines-regional-office-building

...and the Calvary Baptist Church in Elmwood Park.

http://i.imgur.com/VBJ0pcq.jpg
http://www.infinitemiledetroit.com/30_MODERNIST_CHURCHES_06_48207.html http://www.michiganmodern.org/buildings/calvary-baptist-church

Other works include designs he created while working for Perkins and Will, Eero Saarinen, and Minoru Yamasaki. Quite a few in the Detroit area, many in the Midwest, and some in Europe. RIP to a great local architect.

It seems like Detroit is known for it's 100 year old architecture, but there is quite a lot of modernism built during the middle part of the 20th century. Though it's also when Detroit had its greatest suburban expansion so many cool and unique buildings get lost in the far spreading blandness of suburbia. Well, here's hoping to another 100 years of great architecture in Detroit. :cheers:





Sad to hear of the passing of this iconic Architect. He also designed the Domino's Farm Complex, and a lesser-known but still interesting campus for Glen Oaks Community College, located near my neck of the woods, outside Centreville, MI (aerial view below):

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/18736859.jpg
Source: Panoramio (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/18736859.jpg)

Docta_Love
Aug 19, 2017, 6:24 PM
Carr Center to move into prime space in downtown Detroit

By SHERRI WELCH
August 18, 2017
Crain's Detroit Business

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/main_image/7938131/1505_woodward.jpg?itok=UaJItAz2

The Carr Center is temporarily moving in to a high-profile location in downtown Detroit that's owned by Dan Gilbert's Bedrock LLC.

The building at 1505 Woodward Ave. at Clifford is across from the John Varvatos store and recently hosted the "Still Searching" exhibition of Detroit artist Charles McGee who painted the "Unity" mural on the exterior of the 28 Grand Building in Detroit's Capitol Park.

"Our agreement with them is they're welcome to remain in the space indefinitely until a permanent tenant signs on for that space," said Gabrielle Poshadlo, senior communications manager at Bedrock.

“While this current arrangement is temporary, we’ve already begun discussions with (Carr Center President Oliver Ragsdale Jr.) regarding a more permanent solution to keep his organization downtown.”

Bedrock is renting 4,600 square feet on the first floor of the building to the Carr Center at cost. Poshadlo did not provide the per-square-foot rate to cover pass-through costs for things like security and maintenance.

“They came to us, and they were looking for solutions downtown while they figure out what their long-term plan is,” she said. “Happily, we had a space available that worked with their current needs.”

Carr Center will begin operating from the site next week, Ragsdale said.

The Woodward site is one of seven low-cost locations the Carr Center is operating from in Midtown, southwest Detroit and Bloomfield Hills to house its arts and education programs and provide arts groups and artists with space, following its forced move from the Harmonie Club building in Grand River after a failed attempt to buy it.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170818/news/636726/carr-center-to-move-into-prime-space-in-downtown-detroit


Is long-vacant Moose Lodge building inching toward renovation?

KIRK PINHO
Crain's Detroit Business
August 18, 2017

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Signs are pointing toward an upcoming renovation of the long-vacant Loyal Order of the Moose Lodge building at 2115 Cass Ave. in downtown Detroit.

A document that the Ilitch family's Olympia Development of Michigan filed with the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality last week shows some asbestos cleanup is scheduled to take place over a few days next week, with Detroit-based Qualified Abatement Services Inc. as the contractor.

In addition, there has been parking lot work around the building at Cass Avenue and Elizabeth Street across from Bookie's Bar and Grill recently, as well as some painting done on plywood on window coverings.

Seems to me that historic renovation is in the works. But Olympia is remaining mum to me about any details of a renovation.

I asked Ed Saenz, director of communications for the Detroit-based company, for information Thursday about what's in store for the property, but he only said Olympia has "not announced future plans yet."

The DEQ document lists Detroit-based Olympia as the owner and says the building is 30,000 square feet (although Washington, D.C.-based real estate information service CoStar Group Inc. says it's about 45,000 square feet).

Olympia is spearheading the 45- to 50-block District Detroit project anchored by Little Caesars Arena for the Detroit Red Wings and Detroit Pistons that is set to open next month.

In May, the company announced plans to renovate four other long-vacant buildings around the arena for residential use:

The United Artists Theatre building at 150 Bagley St. with 148 units and first-floor retail space. Construction is to begin this year.
The Hotel Eddystone at 110 Sproat St. with 96 units and first-floor retail space. Construction is planned to begin next year.
The Hotel Fort Wayne with 163 units at 408 Temple St. Construction is to begin next year.
The Alhambra Apartments with 46 units at 100 Temple St. Construction is to begin next year.
Historic Detroit, which tracks the city's buildings and architecture history, says the Moose Lodge building opened in 1922 and was designed by Baxter, O'Dell & Halpin. Curbed Detroit reported on some minor repair work taking place there in 2013.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170818/blog016/636706/is-long-vacant-moose-lodge-building-inching-toward-renovation


LinkedIn to open Detroit office — but where?

By KIRK PINHO
Crain's Detroit Business
August 18, 2017

Where LinkedIn plans to open an office in downtown Detroit to accommodate a reported 30 sales employees remains a mystery.

The Silicon Valley-based social media company said in a blog post this week that its first new U.S. office in a decade will open in Detroit.

LinkedIn Senior Vice President of Global Solutions Mike Gamson wrote that a time frame and location for the permanent office will be announced at a later time, although the first employees in temporary office space should be working in the city "within the next few months."

"After evaluating more than 10 U.S. cities, we chose Detroit because we believe the Motor City presents a unique opportunity for LinkedIn to hire top talent and be a part of an exciting economic turnaround story," Gamson wrote.

"This new office gives us a chance to marry LinkedIn's uniquely powerful culture with Detroit's dynamic talent to create economic opportunity for our employees, the city and our company."

The general real estate rule is that employees typically use about 250 square feet each, although that figure has been shrinking in recent years as companies move toward more condensed and collaborative workspaces.

Based on that, LinkedIn is probably looking for no more than 7,500 square feet.

Microsoft Corp., which is also opening an office in downtown Detroit in the One Campus Martius building, bought LinkedIn for $26.2 billion last year. Dan Gilbert and Meridian health system bought One Campus Martius, the former Compuware headquarters building, in 2014.

Whitney Eichinger, director of communications for Dan Gilbert's Bedrock LLC, said the company "cannot comment on rumor and speculation" when asked whether it has been in lease negotiations with LinkedIn.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170818/news/636716/linkedin-to-open-detroit-office-%E2%80%94-but-where


Detroit a midsized metro hmm if they mean not in top ten then true, not exactly what i would consider one but whatever.

Chase: Detroit leads midsize cities in spending growth

By CHAD LIVENGOOD
Crain's Detroit Business
August 18, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/main_image/7938016/Detroit_skyline.jpg?itok=znJAcM9J

Consumer spending in April in metro Detroit among credit and debit card users was 4.8 percent higher than a year ago, the highest year-over-year growth in the midsize metropolitan areas studied by the JPMorgan Chase Institute.

Metro Detroit's spending growth ranked third overall behind Denver (10.4 percent) and New York (5.2 percent) among the 15 metropolitan areas the banking giant's institute has been tracking for its monthly Local Consumer Commerce Index report.

"Metro Detroit was the best-performing in the midsize metro areas," said Diana Farrell, president and CEO of the JPMorgan Chase Institute, a company think tank.

In the city of Detroit, spending in April was up 5.3 percent from a year ago, compared with 4.7 percent growth in the suburbs, according to the report.

"It's a particularly good story for Detroit," she said.

JPMorgan Chase Institute uses Chase bank debit and credit card transactions from 59 million customers to track spending and weights that data based on underlining demographics in each market, Farrell said.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170818/news/636701/chase-detroit-leads-midsize-cities-in-spending-growth

LMich
Aug 21, 2017, 12:11 PM
And BOOM! goes the dynamite. Yes, the Monroe Block office tower will be taller than originally rendered, and will be 35 floors.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/6f012e423128587c3b10f85ddd5fb9d3ff203b1e/c=0-181-2400-1986&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2017/08/18/DetroitFreeP/DetroitFreePress/636386659488055399-Monroe-8.jpg

New details, renderings for Gilbert's Monroe Block plan show huge ambitions (http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/john-gallagher/2017/08/20/gilberts-monroe-block-details/579777001/)

By John Gallager | Detroit Free Press

August 20, 2017

usinessman Dan Gilbert’s ambitious goal of “going vertical” with new downtown towers looks about to become reality big time.

Gilbert’s team plans to break ground in December on its Hudson’s site plan, an architecturally stunning mixed-use assemblage that will become Detroit’s tallest building.

And Gilbert plans to follow that in early 2018 breaking ground on his Monroe Block project.

New renderings and details released to the Free Press show the mostly vacant two-block stretch will see a shimmering 35-story office tower facing Campus Martius, backed by impressive amounts of retail, residential apartments, and new public plazas and "green" space.

If the Hudson's site tower will rank as Detroit's tallest building, the new details available for the Monroe Block remain equally impressive: It will feature 810,000 square feet of new office space, 170,000 square feet of new retail space, 482 new residential apartments, at least 900 parking spaces — many of which will be built underground, and some 48,000 square feet of public plazas and "green" space.

Total cost of the Monroe Block project: More than $800 million.

The apartment building:

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c121eb1e5e4f9bbe715311a894b563dfd6297d48/c=71-0-2328-1697&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2017/08/18/DetroitFreeP/DetroitFreePress/636386661756933943-Monroe-3.jpg

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9b5485b053a08c13d2ecea7ef25ca65139e1e00d/c=71-0-2329-1698&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2017/08/20/DetroitFreeP/DetroitFreePress/636388314118940015-Monroe-6.jpg

At a conservative average 12 feet per floor, I'm guessing this would be at least 420 feet not. This doesn't take into account the expanded lower floors or the slight crown, which will make it taller than the 437-foot Cadillac Tower down the block.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2039/4556465615_ae007ee176_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/7WD5tZ)
Cadillac Tower (https://flic.kr/p/7WD5tZ) by Brendan McKeon (https://www.flickr.com/photos/musely/), on Flickr

subterranean
Aug 21, 2017, 3:37 PM
I love it. The vertical lines are reminiscent of a Yamasaki.

The North One
Aug 21, 2017, 3:54 PM
This is amazing, this project couldn't be any more perfect.

Love to see a proper emphasis on pedestrians and walkability.

animatedmartian
Aug 21, 2017, 6:03 PM
At a conservative average 12 feet per floor, I'm guessing this would be at least 420 feet not. This doesn't take into account the expanded lower floors or the slight crown, which will make it taller than the 437-foot Cadillac Tower down the block.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2039/4556465615_ae007ee176_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/7WD5tZ)
Cadillac Tower (https://flic.kr/p/7WD5tZ) by Brendan McKeon (https://www.flickr.com/photos/musely/), on Flickr

Oh yea, it's gonna be a lot taller.

http://i.imgur.com/5BNGn2zh.jpg
Original size is huge. http://i.imgur.com/5BNGn2z.jpg

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/21/16179002/monroe-block-renderings-dan-gilbert

Illithid Dude
Aug 21, 2017, 6:06 PM
My mothers family is all from Detroit, and many of them still live there. My cousin owns Avalon Bakery if anyone has been to it. As an urbanist and long time supporter of my ancestral homeland, it's really incredibly to see not just all the great things happening, but the pride that people are taking in the revitalization of Detroit. I feel like few cities have the civic pride Detroit does. Monroe Block is awesome, and I can't wait to see what's next for Detroit!

LMich
Aug 21, 2017, 6:10 PM
I'm still confused by the residential component. Are there two towers? And which is the one we see pictured most often?

subterranean
Aug 21, 2017, 6:56 PM
http://i.imgur.com/azELn8n.jpg

This looks considerably bigger than Cadillac Tower. It could just be perspective, but this looks about as tall as the Guardian.
http://imgur.com/a/ueSM7

Detroit1995
Aug 21, 2017, 7:00 PM
That aerial view of downtown with the Monroe Block is incredible! Adds some nice density to the skyline. I hope they release a similar shot with the Hudson's site included.

animatedmartian
Aug 21, 2017, 8:08 PM
I'm still confused by the residential component. Are there two towers? And which is the one we see pictured most often?

Two midrises and the one highrise on the corner of Randolph and Monroe. The glassy one facing Campus Martius is the office building. If that's what you mean.

LMich
Aug 21, 2017, 8:12 PM
No, the office tower is obvious, but I'm confused about the residential building they show in the Freep renderings, and then that tower way at the end of the block I've seen rendered in other shots. Where is this building?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/2J6LWApZMzvCQlJ71z175aSz6Fg=/0x0:4200x2969/920x613/filters:focal(1764x1149:2436x1821)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56288173/Resi.0.jpg

And then where is this building?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/3pO6kGKJng65Vp6nICtNBlkcImY=/1000x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9087269/Housing_Tower.jpg

Are these both on the Block 2? Or is the first residential building on the same block as the office tower, and the second one on the second block? I can't figure out why this has been essentially talked about as two buildings, but we get renderings of three, and none of them really in the same shot. Early we were given a 20 story (now 35 story) and a 16-story building on the other block, I assumed. But, we've also seen this 20-something story building twice, now, at the far end of the second block.

andyguard
Aug 21, 2017, 8:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/azELn8n.jpg

This looks considerably bigger than Cadillac Tower. It could just be perspective, but this looks about as tall as the Guardian.
http://imgur.com/a/ueSM7

I found a website that has formulas to estimate the height of a building when you only know the number of floors and the usage. Using their formula gives you a rough estimation of a 35 story office building being around 156 meters, or 510 feet.


(http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/TallestDatabase/Criteria/HeightCalculator/tabid/1007/language/en-GB/Default.aspx)

subterranean
Aug 21, 2017, 8:32 PM
It could feasibly be the 5th tallest after Hudson’s is built.

The North One
Aug 21, 2017, 8:58 PM
The largest brown residential building is right behind Cadillac Tower which is on the first block, the smaller residential tower is on the 2nd block wedged between Randolph street and Monroe avenue.

animatedmartian
Aug 21, 2017, 9:02 PM
^What he said.


Or is the first residential building on the same block as the office tower, and the second one on the second block?

Yes.

http://i.imgur.com/fO3L3Euh.jpg

LMich
Aug 21, 2017, 9:07 PM
Okay, I see, now. It's just weird they've talked about this as two developments, when there is obvioulsy three seperate towers. The original implication was that the office tower took up the whole Phase 1/Block 1, and that the residential took up Phase 2. As I see it now, the 16 story residential building is on the same block as the 35 story office tower...and then there is a 25 story residential building way back at the edge of Phase 2, which has never been explicitly mentioned.

Anyway, with the Water Board Building pictured in the rendering being 260 feet, it appears the 25 story residential building will be around 300 feet.

Oh, in the rendering of the 16-story building, is Farmer removed from the street grid? I don't see it going through, which I guess is what kind of disoriented me.

andyguard
Aug 21, 2017, 9:34 PM
Okay, I see, now. It's just weird they've talked about this as two developments, when there is obvioulsy three seperate towers. The original implication was that the office tower took up the whole Phase 1/Block 1, and that the residential took up Phase 2. As I see it now, the 16 story residential building is on the same block as the 35 story office tower...and then there is a 25 story residential building way back at the edge of Phase 2, which has never been explicitly mentioned.

Anyway, with the Water Board Building pictured in the rendering being 260 feet, it appears the 25 story residential building will be around 300 feet.

Oh, in the rendering of the 16-story building, is Farmer removed from the street grid? I don't see it going through, which I guess is what kind of disoriented me.

I think in the picture looking towards the old Wayne County building in your original post is looking down Farmer. I could be wrong, but it looks like Farmer is still there but converted to a pedestrian walkway.

rlw777
Aug 22, 2017, 2:57 AM
I assume this means any addition to 1 campus martius would be a lower priority. I also wonder if the height increase is due to the brownfield tax incentives. In any case this and the Hudson's site are going to make downtown feel whole again.

animatedmartian
Aug 23, 2017, 12:01 AM
I assume this means any addition to 1 campus martius would be a lower priority. I also wonder if the height increase is due to the brownfield tax incentives. In any case this and the Hudson's site are going to make downtown feel whole again.

Not necessarily. The OCM addition will likely be additional space for companies that already exist inside the building like Quicken Loans or Microsoft. It's been swaid that the Hudson's and the Monroe Block, as well as any other office space Gilbert builds new, will be marketed towards non-local companies who would be more willing to pay the rents that these new office buildings will demand.

M. Brown
Aug 23, 2017, 4:41 AM
Is the Hudson site and this new development just proposals, or are they actually getting built?

LMich
Aug 23, 2017, 5:39 AM
As it's been reported and posted here a few times, the groundbreaking for Hudson's is scheduled for December and the one for the Monroe Block in January or the first quarter of next year.

Docta_Love
Aug 23, 2017, 6:16 PM
Lot of news today first off and perhaps the most interesting because it mentions a major player in Downtown/New Center is planning developments in several neighborhoods across the city.


Albert Kahn Building in New Center put up for sale

By KIRK PINHO
Crain's Detroit Business
August 22, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/main_image/7939786/albertkahnbuilding.jpg?itok=xwNKUsGX

Two years after it was purchased as part of a $12.2 million auction deal, the Albert Kahn Building on Second Avenue in the New Center area has been put up for sale for an unlisted price.

The 290,000-square-foot building is currently owned by a joint venture between The Platform LLC, New York City-based HFZ Capital Partners and New York City-based Rheal Capital Management, which is owned by Detroit native John Rhea. The Platform is run by Peter Cummings and Dietrich Knoer.

AJ Weiner, managing director of JLL (formerly Jones Lang LaSalle), which is listing the building for sale, said he and The Platform have received "many inquiries" about it since the Detroit-based company took part ownership two years ago.

"The decision was made to undertake a marketing effort to explore the sale of the property," Weiner said. "There is a lot of activity around New Center and Detroit, and The Platform is driving a lot of that. With so much interest expressed in the asset, it's appropriate to take this step."

"We want to see how the market responds, but we think responses will be strong."

....

"We are dipping our toes in the water," said Weiss, whose company is building new apartments with the Third and Grand project, as well as rehabbing old buildings, like the Baltimore Station and Cass and York redevelopments, among others.

It is also planning neighborhood redevelopments in Islandview, the University District and at Lahser Road and Grand River Avenue in northwest Detroit.

Southfield-based Redico LLC had been part of the ownership group for both the Fisher and Kahn buildings but sold its interest in the properties. It remains property manager for both.

The joint venture purchased the properties along with the iconic 635,000-square-foot Fisher Building in 2015 and had planned a large-scale redevelopment of the property.

Plans called for turning the Albert Kahn Building, which is about 20 percent occupied, into 162 apartments on the third through 11th floors, keeping office space on the second floor and using the first floor and concourse area as retail space.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/637031/albert-kahn-building-in-new-center-put-up-for-sale


Lions seeking future Super Bowls at Ford Field, and to host the NFL Draft

By BILL SHEA
Crain's Detroit Business
August 22, 2017

Detroit Lions President Rod Wood is spending his Tuesday showing off the $100 million worth of renovations at Ford Field to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.

The end game is to goose Detroit's chances of hosting future Super Bowls and the annual three-day NFL Draft.

"We're going to try to bring one or both to the city," Wood said while speaking by phone on WJR 760 AM 's "Paul W. Smith Show" on Tuesday morning.

The Lions have sent plans to the NFL seeking to host the 2020 and/or 2021 drafts, he said.

"We've actually submitted renderings of what the draft may look like if we hosted it in Detroit," Wood said. "I know a number of other cities have done the same thing, and we're going to hear back from the NFL soon on that, and next steps."

The Lions want to host the Super Bowl in 2023 or after at Ford Field, which is probably a longer shot than getting the draft.

"We're just waiting to hear back from the NFL on how our expression of interest was received," Wood said.

The league awarded Super Bowls last year to Atlanta in 2019, Miami in 2020 and Los Angeles in 2021. All three cities will have new stadiums, and it's tradition that the championship game goes to new venues or warm-weather cities. The league's 32 owners vote on Super Bowl sites. It's unclear when the next round of cities will be awarded.

Detroit's Ford Field opened in 2002 and hosted Super Bowl XL on Feb. 5, 2006. The Lions' hope is that the renovations completed this year will be enough to convinced the league's Super Bowl host city committee to recommend Detroit another title game. Metro Detroit also hosted Super Bowl XVI on Jan. 24, 1982, at the Pontiac Silverdome.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/637051/lions-seeking-future-super-bowls-at-ford-field-and-to-host-the-nfl


Penske Logistics to invest $98.6 million, create 403 jobs in Romulus

By KURT NAGL
Crain's Detroit Business
August 22, 2017

Penske Logistics LLC is planning to invest $98.6 million in the City of Romulus for a distribution center that would create 403 qualified new jobs.

The 606,000-square-foot refrigerated and frozen food warehousing distribution center will service primarily the Midwest, said Randy Ryerson, director of corporate communications for Penske. It will be located at 15520 Wayne Road.

The warehouse plans point to a diversification of business in Michigan for the logistics company known primarily for its work in the automotive industry.

“Penske Logistics is a major provider of automotive logistics but we also serve a diverse portfolio of logistics clients in other industries including food, industrial manufacturing, consumer products, electronics, appliances and others around the globe," Ryerson said.

He declined to say how much of its business is related to the auto industry.

The new project will be boosted by a $2.5 million performance-based grant from the Michigan Strategic Fund, which cited the project's job creation and net positive return to the state as reasons for the award. Penske Logistics has not received incentives from the MSF in the past.

“We’re pleased to be making this investment and bringing new jobs to Michigan,” Marc Althen, president of Penske Logistics, said in a written statement. “The location of the facility was ideal for the needs of our business and we look forward to breaking ground on the project this fall with InSite Real Estate, who is building the warehouse on our behalf.”

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/636996/penske-logistics-to-invest-986-million-create-403-jobs-in-romulus

Not sure Sears - K-Mart can be saved but interesting none the less.

Sears, Icahn target Detroit area with re-branding, renovations

By Bruce Davis
Crain's Detroit Business
August 22, 2017

Sears Holdings Corp. and Icahn Automotive Group L.L.C. are targeting the Detroit area for growth with new and remodeled auto service locations, the companies disclosed recently.

Sears, based in Illinois, recently converted a pair of suburban Detroit-area Sears Auto Centers to the company’s new DieHard Auto Centers format, while Southfield-based Icahn Automotive is planning a multi-million-dollar investment in its Pep Boys-, Precision Tune- and AutoPlus-branded stores in the Detroit area.

The Sears openings --- in Troy (Oakland Mall) and Roseveille (Macomb Mall) --- are just the second and third converted DieHard-branded stores to open. Sears opened the first DieHard Auto Center in the San Antonio, Texas, area in February.

Sears did not say how much the conversions cost, nor how soon or how many more conversions are in the planning.

The DieHard shop concept, which offers a contemporary setting with interactive in-store displays, plays off the company’s DieHard brand, which Sears has used for 50 years for batteries and for the past two years for tires.

"The new DieHard Auto Center Driven by Sears is another example of how we are unleashing the power of the DieHard brand," said Jon Otterberg, president of Sears Automotive.

"The goal is to continue to improve how we serve our members and to help today's drivers make the right choices for their vehicle's needs with our state-of-the-art technology and services," a Sears spokesperson said earlier about the San Antonio store.

There are more than 500 Sears Auto Center across the U.S. offering passenger and light truck tires and a range of maintenance and repair services and parts.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/637081/sears-icahn-target-detroit-area-with-re-branding-renovations

Docta_Love
Aug 23, 2017, 6:35 PM
Really is a lot of good news out today i missed this one completely, it really isn't just downtown that has seen improvement over these past several years.

Local report details Detroit’s population trends, jobs, housing stock

BY ROBIN RUNYAN
AUG 23, 2017
Curbed Detroit

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/aII3Dpch2V5kAyzKpUm9RyQiVds=/0x0:1200x800/920x613/filters:focal(504x304:696x496):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56322589/2I1A4970_1_.0.jpg

A new report by Detroit Future City called 139 Square Miles, funded through the Knight Foundation, compiles a slew of Detroit data points to help understand where Detroit has been and where we might be headed. The report has data in four areas: population, economy, people, and place. This includes population trends in terms of age and race, where jobs are located and how much they pay, how people get to work, and how housing stock has changed.

Overall, the report shows that Detroit is finally moving toward growth for the first time in 60 years. Although the population itself hasn’t grown yet, it is stabilizing after decades of decline. In this graphic, we can see where housing and population is stabilizing in the city. The darker the blue, the greater the growth.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0ObCShZhhqpKxkbDkmVEqUJFwpU=/1000x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9100389/BlueMap.PNG

Although signs point toward growth, the number of families with children has declined significantly in Detroit; since 2000, the number has decreased by 43%.

The report also highlights how rent-burdened many residents are (as we’ve discussed before). While rents in Detroit are still less than other cities, the median income is also a lot lower. 58% of renters are cost-burdened, while 37% of renters spend more than 50% of their income on housing.

In terms of jobs, the report shows that Detroit has shown a large increase in jobs that pay more than $40,000 a year. Most are located in the downtown/Midtown corridor. The report shows a high number of residents who live in the city and commute out of the city for work (especially those with lower incomes). Unemployment is still high among African American and Hispanic residents, who make up a majority of the city’s population.

Detroit’s poverty rate sits at 40%.

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/23/16189000/detroit-population-report-trends

rlw777
Aug 23, 2017, 6:38 PM
As it's been reported and posted here a few times, the groundbreaking for Hudson's is scheduled for December and the one for the Monroe Block in January or the first quarter of next year.

I expect Hudson's will actually break ground in December but I assume at least the office portion of the Monroe block is contingent upon landing an anchor tenant. A Q1 start would be awesome. Let's hope they are able to land an anchor.

LMich
Aug 23, 2017, 6:53 PM
I expect Hudson's will actually break ground in December but I assume at least the office portion of the Monroe block is contingent upon landing an anchor tenant. A Q1 start would be awesome. Let's hope they are able to land an anchor.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'm sure Gilbert would love to land an anchor tenant for the Monroe Block. Bedrock says as much in their release the other day of the expansion of the project, that they are looking for national tenants, though they've designed the building to have floorplates for all kinds of office tenants.

That said, he could just as easily keep on the current schedule without landing an anchor. Class A vacancy is below 10%, which is why you're seeing Bedrock proposed a ridiculous 810,000 square feet at the Monroe site along, up about 200,000 square feet from the original proposal last December.

I honestly have no reason to doubt Gilbert in particular. When he says he's going to do something, it usually gets done and fairly close to the schedule he announces. I guess you can reasonably doubt how quickly he'll get started with heavy construction. But I don't really doubt him holding a groundbreaking for each project when he says he will, particularly since he got the tax incentives he wanted for both sites from the state, which was the major hurdle from his perspective.

skyscraperpage17
Aug 23, 2017, 7:32 PM
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'm sure Gilbert would love to land an anchor tenant for the Monroe Block. Bedrock says as much in their release the other day of the expansion of the project, that they are looking for national tenants, though they've designed the building to have floorplates for all kinds of office tenants.

That said, he could just as easily keep on the current schedule without landing an anchor. Class A vacancy is below 10%, which is why you're seeing Bedrock proposed a ridiculous 810,000 square feet at the Monroe site along, up about 200,000 square feet from the original proposal last December.

I honestly have no reason to doubt Gilbert in particular. When he says he's going to do something, it usually gets done and fairly close to the schedule he announces. I guess you can reasonably doubt how quickly he'll get started with heavy construction. But I don't really doubt him holding a groundbreaking for each project when he says he will, particularly since he got the tax incentives he wanted for both sites from the state, which was the major hurdle from his perspective.

To add to your points, Gilbert has already said he's running out of space for his own employees at Bedrock. So he can easily move them into this new office tower

Furthermore, I understand he's going to be paying for this project entirely out of pocket, so it's not like he has to meet any lending standards before he can start the project.

In any event, since we're discussing potential tenants, what's up with Flagstar? Are they leasing their building in Troy? It would be awesome if we can get them to move downtown (and thus land a Bank HQ).

skyscraperpage17
Aug 23, 2017, 7:35 PM
Lot of news today first off and perhaps the most interesting because it mentions a major player in Downtown/New Center is planning developments in several neighborhoods across the city.




http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/637031/albert-kahn-building-in-new-center-put-up-for-sale




http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/637051/lions-seeking-future-super-bowls-at-ford-field-and-to-host-the-nfl




http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/636996/penske-logistics-to-invest-986-million-create-403-jobs-in-romulus

Not sure Sears - K-Mart can be saved but interesting none the less.



http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170822/news/637081/sears-icahn-target-detroit-area-with-re-branding-renovations

Why would they pour so much money into the Roseville store when they're closing it and selling the land to At Home?:???:

Docta_Love
Aug 23, 2017, 7:38 PM
Big sale of Bank of America building in Troy may trigger out-of-town cash rush
Deal may spur more interest from flippers

By KIRK PINHO
Crain's Detroit Business
August 20, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/main_image/7938571/BOABuildingSold-main_i.jpg?itok=V9QZ8iU2

One of the region's largest office building sales in recent memory to a New York City buyer may trigger fresh interest from large institutional real estate investors looking for a quick payday.

Coming off Sol Gutman's $74 million purchase of the Bank of America building in Troy last week, experts say the approximately $175-per-square-foot purchase price is enough to make out-of-state buyers that concentrate on what are known as value-add properties take a serious look at the Detroit market.

Such properties are generally those struggling to attract or retain tenants or in need of capital expenditures to make them more attractive to potential tenants.

Two years ago, the Bank of America building at 2600 W. Big Beaver Road was a prime example: Only about 60 percent leased, with its namesake and largest tenant shrinking its footprint in the 422,000-square-foot property.

Then New York City-based Sovereign Partners LLC purchased it from the bank, which was consolidating its office space, for just $35 million and, earlier this month, sold it to Gutman for more than twice that.

Put simply: A textbook flip, with a gross profit of 111 percent, although that doesn't include costs Sovereign incurred to lease up and improve the property, or carrying costs like taxes, maintenance and insurance.

....

Dennis Bernard, president of Southfield-based Bernard Financial Group, said the deal will help attract money from the coasts and internationally to the market.

"You're gonna see New York money and, a lot of times, that New York money is representing international money," he said. "It bodes well not just for Troy, but other areas, whether it's the Detroit CBD, Southfield or the I-275 corridor."

One of the reasons out-of-state investors are looking in Detroit and in other "interior" markets is because of declining capitalization rates, a measure of investment return, in other major cities along the coasts, said Barry Swatsenbarg, senior vice president of investment and loan sale advisory in the Southfield office of Colliers International Inc.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170820/news/636836/big-sale-of-bank-of-america-building-in-troy-may-trigger-out-of-town


Looks like the apartments on Cass aren't safe according to a video taken by building hugger and posted on detroityes a worker claims that "in a week will be gone".

Are these Cass Corridor buildings still facing demo?

BY ROBIN RUNYAN
AUG 23, 2017
Curbed Detroit

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/dfRc0I-ZIC90YiPZFb75i10KZvk=/0x0:2048x1365/920x613/filters:focal(861x520:1187x846):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56324445/20988405_1555413281190211_8199708844950549690_o.0.jpg

Swift tells Curbed that the historic designation was never fully implemented and that city council rescinded it, instead keeping a gentleman’s agreement that Olympia wouldn’t demo the building. City Council is not in session this week.

Earlier this summer, two apartment buildings in Cass Corridor, near the new Little Caesars Arena, were threatened with demolition. Preservationists rallied and fought for an interim Historic Designation, meaning the Historic Designation Advisory Board would begin a study of the buildings and if the owner (Olympia) wants to do anything to the buildings over the next year, they’ll have to go through the Historic District Committee.

Yesterday, Homrich trucks were spotted outside the buildings, spurring speculation and fear of demolition. Amy Swift of Building Hugger confirms that demolition permits were pulled before the designation on June 17 and the permits should be frozen due to the interim Historic Designation. But no permit has been pulled to authorize abatement work.

“I think it is concerning enough that they’re doing abatement activity without a permit,” says Swift. An event is being organized tomorrow in order to organize a mounting online concern around these buildings. There was a large outcry in June when the buildings were threatened and although there are protections in place with the designation, Swift says there is concern based Olympia’s track record with demolition.

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/23/16189584/cass-corridor-buildings-demo-protest

skyscraperpage17
Aug 23, 2017, 7:39 PM
Has anyone here heard any rumblings about Marriott / Ritz Carlton working on a Hotel tower near Little Caesars arena?

Someone on another forum mentioned it in passing, but hasn't shared any additional details.

Docta_Love
Aug 23, 2017, 7:40 PM
Why would they pour so much money into the Roseville store when they're closing it and selling the land to At Home?:???:

I think its just the auto-repair centers at sears that are getting the upgrades perhaps its the only money maker they have left, maybe in Roseville the auto-repair center will still operate as a stand alone. Very strange but perhaps not considering were talking about one that looks like it may going under.

animatedmartian
Aug 23, 2017, 8:02 PM
Has anyone here heard any rumblings about Marriott / Ritz Carlton working on a Hotel tower near Little Caesars arena?

Someone on another forum mentioned it in passing, but hasn't shared any additional details.

The only information ever officially reported was that Olympia was going to build a hotel with 350 to 400 rooms and it would be high-end.

Ritz Carlton wouldn't be surprising if it was one of the names attached to the hotel though it'd be pretty big for Detroit.

Docta_Love
Aug 23, 2017, 8:03 PM
I remember hearing details about a hotel tower not the brand but i believe its to be near Woodward and 75 where the construction equipment that's finishing up the entrance and pedestrian walkway is. Not 100% on that it could be the other end of the block by the mixed use parking garage but its planned in one of the first few phases 3 or something.

animatedmartian
Aug 23, 2017, 8:04 PM
Looks like the apartments on Cass aren't safe according to a video taken by building hugger and posted on detroityes a worker claims that "in a week will be gone".



I'd be entirely less upset if I actually knew something good was going to be built in their place. But 99% of me feels that they're going to be parking lots for quite a while.

Docta_Love
Aug 23, 2017, 8:08 PM
I'd be entirely less upset if I actually knew something good was going to be built in their place. But 99% of me feels that they're going to be parking lots for quite a while.

Exactly there is the vision of the "5 neighborhoods" but i wouldn't be surprised if the only plan for right now is to use the lot as more parking.

detroit_alive
Aug 23, 2017, 9:18 PM
Has anyone here heard any rumblings about Marriott / Ritz Carlton working on a Hotel tower near Little Caesars arena?

Someone on another forum mentioned it in passing, but hasn't shared any additional details.

A birdie tells me that the Ritz is going in Book Tower/Building...

skyscraperpage17
Aug 23, 2017, 9:39 PM
The only information ever officially reported was that Olympia was going to build a hotel with 350 to 400 rooms and it would be high-end.

Ritz Carlton wouldn't be surprising if it was one of the names attached to the hotel though it'd be pretty big for Detroit.

The individual said this supposed Marriott / Ritz Carlton hotel tower would be somewhere in "Wildcat Corner," which suggests it's a separate development from the 5 story 385 room hotel on the other side of Woodward and I-75.

The North One
Aug 24, 2017, 12:33 AM
lol how many times have we been told a historical building is "unsafe"?

David Stott was "unsafe" with a damaged basement, Ransom Gillis was "unsafe" with a crumbling facade, Book Tower was "unsafe". It's the go to garbage excuse.

The Ilitches went and weazled their demolition plans when they thought people were reassured and weren't looking. City council fucked up big time and essentially lied to constituents about the designation status. This is exactly the slimy opportunistic ways the Ilitches are known for, fuck them.

Nobody is even forcing them to renovate the buildings, they can easily be sold for large profit considering the land is much more valuable now.

LMich
Aug 24, 2017, 1:59 AM
A birdie tells me that the Ritz is going in Book Tower/Building...

Yes, please! I suspect because you could best maximize profits this way, that the tower will be apartments (maybe some penthouse condos), and the building would be the hotel. The complex is practically made for mixed usage.

animatedmartian
Aug 24, 2017, 2:27 AM
The individual said this supposed Marriott / Ritz Carlton hotel tower would be somewhere in "Wildcat Corner," which suggests it's a separate development from the 5 story 385 room hotel on the other side of Woodward and I-75.

The only spot that fits that information is the triangular parking lot south of Comerica Park.

skyscraperpage17
Aug 24, 2017, 4:28 AM
The only spot that fits that information is the triangular parking lot south of Comerica Park.

I'm not sure. That may be the case. And IMO, that would be much better (getting that parking lot that's been sitting empty for roughly 20 years filled with a high rise) than having a hotel move into the Book Tower, which is more likely to be filled with something else eventually any way.

I just asked to see if anyone else had any knowledge of this supposed development to see if it was legitimate. I don't even know if any of this is actually happening.

The North One
Aug 24, 2017, 6:32 PM
More photos of Monroe Block here: https://www.dezeen.com/2017/08/24/schmidt-hammer-lassen-reveals-plans-monroe-blocks-development-downtown-detroit/
http://www.shl.dk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/SHL_Architects_Detroit-Monroe-Blocks_Site-plan-1170x1222.jpg
http://www.shl.dk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/02_Site-analysis_connecting-neighborhoods-1170x696.jpg
http://www.shl.dk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/21_Height-comparison-1170x509.jpg
And here: http://www.shl.dk/monroe-blocks/

subterranean
Aug 24, 2017, 7:59 PM
It could feasibly be the 5th tallest after Hudson’s is built.

More photos of Monroe Block here: https://www.dezeen.com/2017/08/24/schmidt-hammer-lassen-reveals-plans-monroe-blocks-development-downtown-detroit/


http://www.shl.dk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/21_Height-comparison-1170x509.jpg
And here: http://www.shl.dk/monroe-blocks/


So this thing will be the 5th tallest, including Hudson's. Impressive. By the way, that is the exact height of Portland's second tallest:

http://images.skyscrapercenter.com/thumbs/26821_fit_300x415.jpg

...

Docta_Love
Aug 24, 2017, 9:00 PM
In that last rendering the 16 story tower looks a hell of a lot taller, although i know its not focusing on phase 2 but with the height increase in phase one perhaps they're thinking about raising the height on it too. Its hard to tell but it looks near as tall as the Cadillac Tower it looks like it may be upwards of 400 ft if that rendering is at all accurate.

LMich
Aug 25, 2017, 1:03 AM
That's not the 16-story tower. That's a seperate one on the block. This is the 26-story tower at the very edge of the development at Randolph and Monroe. The 16-story residential building is on the main block behind the office tower at the corner of Farmer and Bates.

BTW, the 26-story tower looks nowhere near as tall as Cadillac Tower. It's much closer to our view in that perspective, making it look taller. This is more apparent in the aerial rendering. It's clearly shorter than the 438-foot Cadillac Tower, but taller than the neighboring 259-foot Water Board Building, but not that much taller than the Water Board Building.

animatedmartian
Aug 25, 2017, 2:19 AM
Shinola Hotel progressing along.

http://i.imgur.com/pniqaRy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/99f71pTh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sMurgWph.jpg

Via Curbed, photos by Michelle & Chris Gerard (https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/24/16189910/shinola-hotel-construction-detroit)

LMich
Aug 25, 2017, 2:30 AM
To answer concerns about possible over-supply...

Forecast: Big demand for downtown Detroit housing (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/08/24/housing-demand-greater-downtown-detroit/104928998/)

By Candice Williams | The Detroit News

August 24, 2017

Neighborhoods within the greater downtown Detroit area are expected to see a demand for 10,000 new residential units during the next five years, according to a survey released Thursday by the Downtown Detroit Partnership.

The areas included in the Greater Downtown Residential Market Study are downtown, Corktown, Rivertown, Lafayette Park, Eastern Market, Midtown, Woodbridge, TechTown and New Center.

The figure reflects the demand for both market-rate and affordable-housing options — for sale and for rent.

“We’re seeing a continued demand for residential units, and that demand is increasing faster than the current supply of available units,” Eric Larson, CEO of the Downtown Detroit Partnership said in a statement. “There is a great opportunity in the city for developers for both market-rate and affordable units.”

Findings in the study include:

■There is demand each year for 1,230 to 1,500 new market-rate rental and for-sale multi-family units, and an estimated demand for 414 to 512 affordable rental and for-sale multi-family units.

■Over the next five years, estimated demand for new market-rate rentals and for-sale multi-family units is 6,150 to more than 7,500 units. There will be a demand for 2,070 to more than 2,500 affordable units for rent or sale.

■Nearly 76 percent of units developed since 2014 were market-rate and 24 percent are affordable, or income-restricted units.

Nearly 7,400 new units have been proposed and are in the pipeline throughout the greater downtown area.

Docta_Love
Aug 26, 2017, 6:53 PM
Sources: Gilbert close to buying Buhl Building, parking deck downtown

By KIRK PINHO
Crain's Detroit Business
August 25, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/BuhlBuilding1_i.jpg?itok=kXqVXMYX

Downtown real estate mogul Dan Gilbert is closing in on a deal to buy the Buhl Building and its 652-space parking deck downtown, two sources familiar with the negotiations told Crain's Friday.

The 27-story skyscraper at 535 Griswold St. would become the most recent high-rise the Quicken Loans Inc. and Rock Ventures LLC founder and chairman has added to his real estate portfolio.

Other high-profile purchases include Ally Detroit Center (formerly One Detroit Center), the Book Tower, the David Stott Building and the former Compuware Corp. headquarters, now known as One Campus Martius.

One source said the deal is a few months away from closing and Gilbert had the properties under contract. The other source said a deal was close. Both asked for anonymity because they aren't permitted to publicly discuss the negotiations.

Whitney Eichinger, vice president of communications for Rock Ventures, said the company "cannot comment on rumor and speculation."

The expected sale price is not known.

....

Gilbert .... He owns more than 95 properties totaling more than 15 million square feet in and around downtown, according to figures from his Bedrock LLC real estate development, ownership, management and leasing company.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170825/news/637336/sources-gilbert-close-to-buying-buhl-building-parking-deck-downtown


Davenport University moving from Livonia to Midtown

By KIRK PINHO
Crain's Detroit Business
August 24, 2017

Grand Rapids-based Davenport University is relocating its Livonia location to Detroit's Midtown neighborhood.

A sign in front of its 40,000-square-foot building says it is "opening soon" in the bustling neighborhood in greater downtown Detroit but does not give a specific location or time frame. However, the university said Thursday night the move would not affect students attending in the fall 2017 or winter 2018 semesters.

"Davenport is committed to the Detroit marketplace and believes a new campus in the Midtown area will help it better tap into the growth and excitement of Detroit's renaissance," a statement from the university provided Thursday night reads.

The statement says it's looking for a location close to the QLine streetcar system, and the destination will be finalized after a new Livonia tenant has been secured. It does not say whether it is considering constructing a new building or leasing existing space.

The move comes as the nonprofit university has recently embarked on a spending spree even though enrollment has shrunk by thousands of students in recent years, MiBiz reported in February 2016, falling from 13,000 in 2011-12 to 8,715 in 2015. The university has most recently said it serves "nearly 8,000" students throughout its 80-plus undergraduate and graduate programs.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170824/news/637246/davenport-university-moving-from-livonia-to-midtown

LMich
Aug 27, 2017, 12:57 AM
Gilbert is going to make off like a bandit when he sells these properties off over the coming years, good grief!

Detroit1995
Aug 28, 2017, 9:21 PM
Anyone have an update on those historic buildings at the edge of the Cass Corridor? Wasn't there a rally last week to help prevent their demolition?

The North One
Aug 28, 2017, 9:34 PM
Anyone have an update on those historic buildings at the edge of the Cass Corridor? Wasn't there a rally last week to help prevent their demolition?

City council says they spoke to Olympia and the buildings are not being demolished.

There's a lot of conflicting information.

LMich
Aug 29, 2017, 3:39 AM
When did DuCharmer Place in Lafayette Park, open? I'd forgotten about this one.

https://archpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/MP_DuCharme_1-e1503324477864-1024x0-c-default.jpg

Mies’s Lafayette Park gets first new project in 40 years (https://archpaper.com/2017/08/lafayette-park-ducharme-place/)

By Matthew Messner | The Architects Newspaper

August 21, 2017

For the first time in 40 years, Detroit’s famed Lafayette Park has a new addition. Designed by Detroit-based McIntosh Poris Associates, DuCharme Place is a 185-unit apartment community comprised of four midrise buildings. Adding to the Mies van der Rohe–designed historic district, the new development plays liberally with many of Mies’s original concepts.

McIntosh Poris’s contribution, entitled DuCharme Place, draws on many of the modernist ideas designed into the historic portions of the district. Starting with the material palette of brick, metal, and glass, the project also makes larger formal moves that echo Mies’s master plan and design. The four buildings define three large courtyard terraces reminiscent of the iconic courts of Mies’s townhomes. Residents also have access to additional outdoor spaces including private balconies and private green roof terraces, which include a pool and a zen garden. The project’s green roof is the largest in Detroit.

Anyway, some more photos of the development from its facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pg/ducharmeplace/posts/?ref=page_internal):

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20841970_1998707786822040_1146237530440008884_n.jpg?oh=6ad6bd6a151f4a3d079efab5f7ff6aaa&oe=5A137DF3

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20429693_1976993528993466_4844394153733857698_n.jpg?oh=1eb1f67fd23fea786d575edea47575de&oe=5A28C719

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20479932_1975490029143816_2661929380930901492_n.jpg?oh=490d071fc7b4a9e66843072a2c6d20c1&oe=5A178A96

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19884021_1962623620430457_722394488969843335_n.jpg?oh=c497181b1023ef09866b9e285a0338e8&oe=5A23A18E

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19904887_1955813047778181_5243634496460065610_n.jpg?oh=01c87a16e38b33851e552e9f41f64958&oe=5A5B14F6

animatedmartian
Aug 29, 2017, 11:13 PM
When did DuCharmer Place in Lafayette Park, open? I'd forgotten about this one.


Back in May of this year.

LMich
Aug 30, 2017, 2:15 AM
I was under the impression this one had already started, but it must have been preliminary work. Anyway, the official start of the conversion of the long-vacant Metropolitan Building into the Element Detroit extended-stay hotel (by Starwood) began today:

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/29/-1d88af3a8d4468d3.JPG
Tanya Moutzalias

Detroit hotel kicks off construction with rooftop tree removal at historic high-rise (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/08/developers_break_ground_on_hot.html)

By Dana Afana | MLive.com

August 29, 2017

DETROIT -- Developers kicked off construction of a hotel inside the historic, long-vacant Metropolitan Building on Tuesday with the removal of a 13-foot-tall tree from the roof.

The $32-million "Element Detroit" hotel project will be an extended-stay hotel under the Starwood collection.

It will include 110 one- and two-bedroom units with kitchens, 2,000-square-feet of meeting spaces on the second floor mezzanine and about 7,000-square-feet of retail space on the lower level of the building at 33 John R. St.

More photos from MLive's Tanya Moutzalias:

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/29/-c7c5a7be9d3b05df.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/29/-0a9cc93ae622bcaa.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/29/-d7ed2567fc05c82c.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/29/-d32da9ae0aea9b5d.JPG

animatedmartian
Aug 30, 2017, 1:15 PM
Ilitches buy Women's City Club building for $5.85 million
By KIRK PINHO. Crain's Detroit. August 30, 2017.

http://i.imgur.com/sA9gcbC.jpg

An entity tied to the Ilitch family's Olympia Development of Michigan quietly purchased the Women's City Club building on Park Avenue in downtown Detroit for $5.85 million in January.

According to Wayne County records, an entity called DETWCC LLC sold the building to 2110 Park Avenue LLC.

The former is registered to Eric Larson, CEO of the Downtown Detroit Partnership and president and CEO of Bloomfield Hills-based Larson Realty Group.

The latter does not expressly disclose who is behind it, but city records list the taxpayer address as 2211 Woodward Ave., the headquarters of Olympia Development and Little Caesars. A text message was sent Tuesday evening to an Olympia spokesman seeking comment on future plans for the building, which is 75,000 square feet.

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http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170830/news/637721/ilitches-buy-womens-city-club-building-for-585-million

In relation to this, the Detroit Historic District Commission had a meeting on the 29th which included "54 Elizabeth - Adjacent to the Park Avenue HD - Demolish building ".

54 Elizabeth is this little building behind the Women's City Club. Google streetview shows that the part of the building on the right had a nice little facade.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4094/35527586821_bf7716d912_b.jpg


In other Olympia demolition news, they just demolished the house on the left (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170829/news/637696/olympia-begins-demolishing-136-year-old-house-near-little-caesars-arena) pictured here. The one on the right still has private owners and is currently listed for $5 million dollars.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4343/35996126020_38ec7faf9c_b.jpg

Docta_Love
Aug 30, 2017, 6:02 PM
Midtown Detroit unveils plans for $20 million Selden Corridor redevelopment

By KURT NAGL
Crain's Detroit Business
August 30, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/644%20Selden%20street%20side_i.jpg?itok=j8FBClQ9

A planned $20 million redevelopment of Selden Corridor in Midtown will include a bar arcade, brewing school, meat-centric restaurant, eco-homes and public outdoor workspace for entrepreneurs.

Midtown Detroit Inc. announced Wednesday the updated plans for the mixed-use projects, known as the Selden Corridor Initiative, on Selden Street between Second Avenue and Fourth Street.

The community development agency started the initiative earlier this year and development is expected to be complete by late fall next year.

Barcade, a national chain that couples craft beer with classic video games, will open its first Michigan location at 666 Selden St.

The building will also house a brewing school that will offer a bachelor's degree in fermentation science in partnership with Eastern Michigan University. The brewery school is being funded by Midtown Detroit and 3Mission Design and Developers, which owns Jolly Pumpkin Pizzeria and Brewery on Canfield in Midtown, according to a news release.

The developer is also planning a new restaurant called North Cookshop for the ground floor of 644 Selden St.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170830/news/637751/midtown-detroit-unveils-plans-for-20-million-selden-corridor

animatedmartian
Aug 30, 2017, 11:58 PM
^Here are more renderings of the Seldon Corridor Initiative.

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/8/30/16227300/midtown-development-selden-corridor

http://i.imgur.com/TJeORe0h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ErGdtFzh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Ll6mtk6h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/csa2bU8h.jpg

LMich
Aug 31, 2017, 12:00 AM
More from the Selden development.

The gallery from MLive (http://photos.mlive.com/5628/gallery/selden_corridor_initiative_ann/index.html):

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-b5ba791d054d177b.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-41bfad171638fc2e.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-77d8895c53ba92a8.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/selden-corridor-initiative-announced-f0965f9fd428b28b.jpg

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-bb74cd207260670f.JPG

Where the 14 infill houses will go:

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-f56335d67a1924b6.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-72d4bc48ad315778.JPG

Still not clear on how many residential units are in each building aside from the fact that you'll have 14 single-family homes built down the block as infll.

BTW, in the old development behind the Fillmore the 1900 house is the defaced house on the right, the 1960's addition is on the left, and the 1870's house is behind these two.

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/29/-be7620c32ba586eb.JPG
Tanya Moutzalias | MLive.com

The whole thing has been so badly reconfigured it's going to be hard to sell the owners on them as being architecturally significant, if they even could. I'd really love to see what a great preservationist architect could do with these. There are the things that make streetscapes interesting.

hammersklavier
Aug 31, 2017, 3:56 AM
Where the 14 infill houses will go:

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-f56335d67a1924b6.JPG

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/30/-72d4bc48ad315778.JPG

Still not clear on how many residential units are in each building aside from the fact that you'll have 14 single-family homes built down the block as infll.
Are they demo'ing that whole block?

That's kind of a disappointment.

BTW, in the old development behind the Fillmore the 1900 house is the defaced house on the right, the 1960's addition is on the left, and the 1870's house is behind these two.

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/detroit/photo/2017/08/29/-be7620c32ba586eb.JPG
Tanya Moutzalias | MLive.com

The whole thing has been so badly reconfigured it's going to be hard to sell the owners on them as being architecturally significant, if they even could. I'd really love to see what a great preservationist architect could do with these. There are the things that make streetscapes interesting.
Organic buildings that have seen accretion like this are some of a city's best and most interesting. That 1860 house alone looks like it holds plenty of fascinating stories!

LMich
Aug 31, 2017, 4:01 AM
I should have been more clear; that's the context into which the 14 houses on Selden are going. The second photo shows the lot the infill will be constructed, I believe.

animatedmartian
Sep 2, 2017, 10:34 PM
Neat little short about the eco-friendly restoration of the El Moore.

WLld3HummRI

deja vu
Sep 3, 2017, 1:09 AM
Really well done - both the short and the entire project. It just feels like a lot of thought and good design was put into El Moore. I love those terraces on the back. Nice little shoutout to John Gallagher's Reimagining Detroit book too.

Docta_Love
Sep 4, 2017, 4:27 PM
Speaking of preservation work ...

Historic Fort Wayne to get preservation work Sept. 10

By TYLER CLIFFORD
Crain's Detroit Business
August 30, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/Historic_Fort_Wayne-main_i.jpg?itok=vcf-z2r2

Hands-On Preservation Experience of the National Trust for Historic Preservation plans to hold a community day to help rehabilitate Historic Fort Wayne on Sept. 10.

In collaboration with the Detroit Recreation Department, the Historic Fort Wayne Coalition, the Michigan Historic Preservation Network, the Preservation Trades Network and the National Park Service's National Center for Preservation Technology and Training, the effort seeks to help preserve and catalyze plans for the site, a news release said.

Volunteers for HOPE Crew Community Day will learn basic preservation carpentry, masonry, painting and window repair skills. The event will also include a block party.

Historic Fort Wayne, in the Delray neighborhood in southwest Detroit, contains the original 1848 limestone barracks building, 1845 star fort, commanding officers house, Spanish-American War guard house and the Tuskegee Airmen Museum, which are open to the public.


Volunteers can register here to help with the preservation efforts ---} https://savingplaces.org/fort-wayne-community-day-registration#.WagDtrKGOpo

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170830/news/637811/historic-fort-wayne-to-get-preservation-work-sept-10

Docta_Love
Sep 4, 2017, 4:40 PM
Forgot this one

GM doubling design space at Warren tech center as part of $1 billion investment

By Michael Wayland - Automotive News
Crain's Detroit Business
August 30, 2017

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sites/default/files/styles/core_colorbox/public/GM%20Tech%20Center%20design%20expansion_i.jpg?itok=niBgUoN-

General Motors Co. is doubling the size of its design studios as part of a previously announced $1 billion investment and renovation of its global technical center in Warren.

The automaker on Wednesday said it will break ground in mid-2018 on a 360,000-square-foot studio building, which will surround its historic design dome, auditorium and viewing patio. The new studio will connect to the company's existing 350,000-square-foot design center.

The project is expected to take two to three years and includes the addition of a parking structure underway at the southwest corner of the campus.

Michael Simcoe, GM's vice president of global design, said the new space will help his team be better prepared to develop cutting-edge designs for emerging autonomous vehicles and popular services such as ride sharing and ride hailing.

"Investing in our creative and skilled team and providing them with inspiring, modern spaces, new technologies and more ways to work together will foster innovation that leads to real solutions for customers," he said in a statement.

GM announced the $1 billion investment in the Warren tech center in May 2015, a year after substantial flooding damaged several parts of the campus. The investment included new construction, significant renovations of some facilities and the expansion of some operations. Significant renovations were made to operations that included vehicle engineering, preproduction engineering and an alternative energy center.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170830/news/637776/gm-doubling-design-space-at-warren-tech-center-as-part-of-1-billion

LMich
Sep 6, 2017, 7:07 AM
The construction banner for The Ashton Detroit was put up late last month:

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21034635_1450570208360199_7536325152499699368_n.jpg?oh=87cac4b645cc1119b9c4a39cec0fec1d&oe=5A5906E9
The Ashton Detroit facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pg/AshtonDetroit/photos/?ref=page_internal)

To jog everyone's memory, The Ashton Detroit is 96-unit condo building (including 5 penthouse suites) to rise at 659 Howard in the west end of downtown. It will have an amenities floor which will include a boardwalk patio on on side of the building with a grass patio on the other with an indoor spa and pool and fitnesses room between the two.

http://ashtondetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ashton-render.png

http://ashtondetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Ashton-Detroit2.jpg

http://ashtondetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Ashton-Detroit-Pool.jpg

http://ashtondetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Ashton-Detroit-Interior.jpg

http://ashtondetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Ashton-Detroit-Amenities-Graphic-Plan-copy-1-1540x1419.jpg

Completion is scheduled for 2019.

Detroit1995
Sep 6, 2017, 3:56 PM
Good, that side of downtown desperately needs some development.

deja vu
Sep 7, 2017, 4:20 AM
The Ashton should be a great addition to the area. FYI, for anyone who may not have seen it yet, there is a dedicated thread (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=227822) for it that animatedmartian started some time ago.

skyscraperpage17
Sep 7, 2017, 8:36 PM
Alright Dan Gilbert, work your mojo. Detroit would be perfect for this (and it would be a game changer)...

Amazon Is Planning a Second Headquarters With 50,000 Jobs

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/technology/amazon-headquarters-north-america.html?mcubz=0

animatedmartian
Sep 7, 2017, 11:31 PM
That would be pretty amazing for Detroit, but I can't see Detroit out competing other cities for a company like Amazon. There's just not a wealth of an IT economy (outside of automotive) that I think would attract to a company HQ like Amazon.

I'd expect them to open up in a place like Austin, or Denver, or even NYC for the sheer size of it. Detroit has some positives, no doubt, and certainly Gilbert is growing an IT industry in the city but it's small fish compared to the ocean of talent Amazon would be used to on the West Coast.

subterranean
Sep 7, 2017, 11:38 PM
That would be pretty amazing for Detroit, but I can't see Detroit out competing other cities for a company like Amazon. There's just not a wealth of an IT economy (outside of automotive) that I think would attract to a company HQ like Amazon.

I'd expect them to open up in a place like Austin, or Denver, or even NYC for the sheer size of it. Detroit has some positives, no doubt, and certainly Gilbert is growing an IT industry in the city but it's small fish compared to the ocean of talent Amazon would be used to on the West Coast.

I think it could be a serious contender. I've seen multiple lists online whittle it down to cities that fit the bill as requested in their RFP, and many of them have listed Detroit as a possibility. Though I wonder if its school system alone would be enough to deter them. But yeah, Austin seems almost predestined.

The North One
Sep 7, 2017, 11:38 PM
Well, they already have an office in the city and are investing in a warehouse.

If they want to collaborate on self-driving cars (which is really important for their logistics) the city would be a great pick for that, not to mention unlimited space to grow and a world class airport.

animatedmartian
Sep 7, 2017, 11:49 PM
Well, they already have an office in the city and are investing in a warehouse.

If they want to collaborate on self-driving cars (which is really important for their logistics) the city would be a great pick for that, not to mention unlimited space to grow and a world class airport.

Speaking of self-driving cars, Dan Gilbert is going to start testing self-driving shuttle cars around downtown next month.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/mobility/2017/09/06/self-driving-shuttles-tested-downtown-detroit/105338890/

skyscraperpage17
Sep 8, 2017, 12:47 AM
That would be pretty amazing for Detroit, but I can't see Detroit out competing other cities for a company like Amazon. There's just not a wealth of an IT economy (outside of automotive) that I think would attract to a company HQ like Amazon.

I'd expect them to open up in a place like Austin, or Denver, or even NYC for the sheer size of it. Detroit has some positives, no doubt, and certainly Gilbert is growing an IT industry in the city but it's small fish compared to the ocean of talent Amazon would be used to on the West Coast.

Detroit's only real drawback is the lack of transit. But even then, that may not be a dealbreaker (we have one of, if not the best road system of any major city).

Here's what we have going for us:

1. DTW is a Delta hub (so is Seattle, thus a ton of direct flights between the cities) that is underutilized and also relatively modern compared to airports in other major cities.

2. Home to the University of Michigan, the top public university in the country. Not to mention MSU, Wayne State, etc.

3. Very low COL compared to other cities that are similar in size and offer similar amenities.

You also have to consider the people involved as well. There's no doubt Dan Gilbert is going to do all sorts of acrobats and back flips to make this happen. And then you also have someone like Jeff Bezos who loves to say they were influential in the next big thing (Detroit's comeback?).

skyscraperpage17
Sep 8, 2017, 12:49 AM
I think it could be a serious contender. I've seen multiple lists online whittle it down to cities that fit the bill as requested in their RFP, and many of them have listed Detroit as a possibility. Though I wonder if its school system alone would be enough to deter them. But yeah, Austin seems almost predestined.

The suburban school districts are pretty much on par with the suburban school districts in other major cities. Chicago, Philadelphia and Atlanta proper's schools are only marginally less disastrous than DPS.

And beyond secondary education, see my post above about the Universities in/around Metro Detroit.

EDIT: As far as Austin, they have a ridiculously small airport without a ton of direct flights. Their infrastructure is also not built to handle the population growth they're experiencing (traffic is horrible there).

The North One
Sep 8, 2017, 1:30 AM
I think Michigan could provide a rapid bus transit deal for Amazon if it really got serious. Especially since Snyder is very pro transit. Amazon does well with buses in Seattle. And the city already has a rail connection with Ann Arbor.

animatedmartian
Sep 8, 2017, 1:53 AM
Detroit's only real drawback is the lack of transit. But even then, that may not be a dealbreaker (we have one of, if not the best road system of any major city).

Here's what we have going for us:

1. DTW is a Delta hub (so is Seattle, thus a ton of direct flights between the cities) that is underutilized and also relatively modern compared to airports in other major cities.

2. Home to the University of Michigan, the top public university in the country. Not to mention MSU, Wayne State, etc.

3. Very low COL compared to other cities that are similar in size and offer similar amenities.

You also have to consider the people involved as well. There's no doubt Dan Gilbert is going to do all sorts of acrobats and back flips to make this happen. And then you also have someone like Jeff Bezos who loves to say they were influential in the next big thing (Detroit's comeback?).

I don't disagree... but I guess my worry is that Metro Detroit is still heavily rooted in the auto industry and Amazon might be seen more as a disruption rather than a savior. I mean, in the end, Detroit (and Michigan) need to diversify to maintain growth, but would Amazon be too much too quickly? That's partly rhetorical, but just something to consider.

skyscraperpage17
Sep 8, 2017, 2:13 AM
I don't disagree... but I guess my worry is that Metro Detroit is still heavily rooted in the auto industry and Amazon might be seen more as a disruption rather than a savior. I mean, in the end, Detroit (and Michigan) need to diversify to maintain growth, but would Amazon be too much too quickly? That's partly rhetorical, but just something to consider.

Detroit desperately needs that type of disruption.

The auto industry, with its sharp downturns and having matured long ago, has also been the very reason why Detroit remains stuck in neutral. It's hardly creating new jobs or making capital investments that would generate the type of population and economic growth that other cities are experiencing.

If you want Detroit to become like Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, etc., landing Amazon *NEEDS* to happen. If you're OK with (metro) Detroit remaining the same way it's been since the 70s, then yeah, you probably wouldn't too much care about landing Amazon

skyscraperpage17
Sep 8, 2017, 2:33 AM
To put things in perspective, below is the impact Amazon has had on Seattle.

I understand they have nearly 100 skyscrapers (ranging from 20 stories to as high as 90+ stories) either recently built, under construction or in the planning phase.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/Anything/test/images/usa/Table_Final._V517821883_.jpg

skyscraperpage17
Sep 8, 2017, 2:43 AM
Dan Gilbert confirms he’s trying to get Amazon to build its second HQ in Detroit

https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/07/dan-gilbert-confirms-hes-trying-to-get-amazon-to-build-its-second-hq-in-detroit/

davidberko
Sep 8, 2017, 3:39 AM
Dan Gilbert confirms he’s trying to get Amazon to build its second HQ in Detroit

https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/07/dan-gilbert-confirms-hes-trying-to-get-amazon-to-build-its-second-hq-in-detroit/

This is getting intense now! xD