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Rail Claimore
Apr 15, 2010, 10:52 PM
It says here that "The new 12-gate facility will connect via the Automated People Mover System to the existing 28-gate international concourse E, creating a 40-gate international air travel complex at Hartsfield-Jackson."

http://www.atlanta-airport.com/Airport/Construction/Construction_Maynard.aspx

So why would any other ground transportation be needed? :shrug:

The idea behind the new international terminal is to eliminate the baggage re-check process within concourse E. The underground people-mover is inside security, so having to use it means having to re-check bags anyway. My guess is that immigration and customs will be moved exclusively to the new international terminal, or the existing facilities within concourse E will be connected seamlessly with those in concourse F in a way that will eliminate the need for re-check.

That all said, I think the best solution to this issue is to allow arriving international passengers the option of rechecking their bags even if their final destination is ATL, so they can get to the west side of the airport. Shuttle buses could also complement this for those who don't want to re-check.

Departing international passengers who use MARTA to get to the airport or those that need to return rental cars should be given the option of international check-in at the existing west-side terminal complex.

dante2308
Apr 16, 2010, 3:13 AM
Who calls ATL airport HJAIA? Only those who maybe try to make some sort of political statement.

The acronym/code for Atlanta's airport is ATL. It is also known as Hartsfield-Jackson as it is described in the slide show that you cited.

The full name is Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. But only a little research would show that one of the airports (actually the first I googled from the list you cited) has a full name of Minneapolis-St.Paul International/Wold-Chamberlain Airport. Is that name more "awkward"? Will that make its acronym MSPIWCA?

I really didn't googled anything more to illustrate my point until I goodled the one that you thought was cool and it's full name is Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport....isn't Sky Harbor and Airport kinda redundant?

Thanks for the list though. You could have (probably should have) just left it at that.

Did not expect that. So I guess Atlanta can't even claim the awkwardness honor?

Lets do a full statistical analysis on the level of awkwardness of airport names. Thats the only way this very important matter can be solved.

Harry Cane
Apr 16, 2010, 11:25 AM
My guess is that immigration and customs will be moved exclusively to the new international terminal, or the existing facilities within concourse E will be connected seamlessly with those in concourse F in a way that will eliminate the need for re-check.



You know, I hadn't thought much about that, but my guess would be that they'll keep the current immigration and customs facilities and add another at the new terminal. Otherwise, a passenger arriving at an existing E gate would have to schlepp on foot through a tunnel to a new immigration/customs area, since they wouldn't have been cleared for using the people mover. Alternatively, if the facilities are only kept in the new location, they do it in reverse, then backtrack to the terminal.

I agree, though, that for international passengers ending in Atlanta, it's a huge improvement. I just had to write a detailed instruction sheet for a group of folks coming from Europe next month that don't speak any English.

smArTaLlone
Apr 16, 2010, 3:35 PM
That all said, I think the best solution to this issue is to allow arriving international passengers the option of rechecking their bags even if their final destination is ATL, so they can get to the west side of the airport. Shuttle buses could also complement this for those who don't want to re-check.


I thought about this as a solution but I don't think it would be more convenient to recheck, take to people mover, and claim luggage again than to just take a shuttle.

cybele
Apr 28, 2010, 6:11 PM
Well, if anybody was planning on needing their weapon at the airport right away at least the legislature passed the dang bill, but I still don't see where Perdue has signed it yet.

Bill allowing guns in airports passes state Legislature (http://www.macon.com/2010/04/28/1109607/bill-allowing-guns-in-airports.html)

STrek777
May 4, 2010, 2:01 AM
Hey this is cool!

http://www.unitedcontinentalmerger.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/FINAL+Investor+Presentation%5b1%5d.pdf

smArTaLlone
Jul 3, 2010, 5:13 PM
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Fiorenza
Aug 23, 2010, 7:56 PM
http://www.ajc.com/business/mayor-names-finalists-for-597648.html

All these guys are being investigated by legal authorities for various reasons. Not to say they're guilty of any wrongdoing.

cybele
Aug 23, 2010, 8:19 PM
Well, why in tarnation would you get three of them who is already up on charges.

Fiorenza
Aug 24, 2010, 2:33 AM
Another rip-off to line the pockets of the Atlanta political class at the expense of everyone else

http://www.ajc.com/business/airport-hiking-fees-to-597725.html

micropundit
Aug 31, 2010, 2:00 PM
http://atlanta.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2010/08/30/daily9.html

smArTaLlone
Sep 13, 2010, 8:40 PM
Louis Miller, former executive director and CEO of Tampa International Airport, on Monday was named general manager at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed announced Miller’s appointment at a press conference Monday afternoon.

BlindFatSnake
Sep 14, 2010, 12:33 PM
Another rip-off to line the pockets of the Atlanta political class at the expense of everyone else

http://www.ajc.com/business/airport-hiking-fees-to-597725.html

Fiorenza, there's a white man running the airport now. I'm waiting to read another one of your asinine remarks about: "Atlanta's political class" lining their pockets with cash? :jester: :yes: :jester:

cybele
Sep 14, 2010, 2:41 PM
Fiorenza, there's a white man running the airport now. I'm waiting to read another one of your asinine remarks about: "Atlanta's political class" lining their pockets with cash? :jester: :yes: :jester:

Well, what if he comes back and says, well, who hired the man and who is his boss.

Fiorenza
Sep 14, 2010, 5:17 PM
BFS, the way we see it Mayor Reed is a pragmatic guy, and who knows what he had to deal with in considering the three candidates?

Based on his past commonsense consensus-making behavior at the statehouse, I'm optimistic he will mainly try to stay clear of the aforementioned corrupt "political class", which if he can do so would keep him out of trouble with the reform elements of both races and parties. Time will tell.

Fiorenza
Sep 14, 2010, 5:36 PM
Give the white man a chance. We're all God's children.

smArTaLlone
Sep 27, 2010, 4:30 PM
Southwest Airlines is buying AirTran Airways for $1.4 billion, giving Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport passengers more options for low-cost tickets without the fees other airlines have adopted.

AirTran has about 202 departures daily out of Atlanta, which would be the third-largest operation in Southwest’s network, behind Las Vegas and Chicago Midway, according to AirTran.



http://www.ajc.com/business/southwest-buying-airtran-for-639413.html

micropundit
Nov 16, 2010, 9:57 PM
http://www.ajc.com/business/hartsfield-jackson-closes-bond-743650.html

micropundit
Jan 27, 2011, 10:20 PM
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2011/01/27/hartsfield-jackson-stays-worlds.html

micropundit
Apr 8, 2011, 8:57 PM
http://www.ajc.com/business/hartsfield-jackson-plans-lounge-903442.html

ThrashATL
May 25, 2011, 3:57 PM
The world’s busiest airport is spending $30 million to make itself accessible to the world’s biggest airliner.

Hartsfield-Jackson International plans to widen taxiways and runway shoulders and make terminal improvements that will enable it to handle the Airbus A380 -- a double-decker widebody that can carry 400 to 525 passengers in typical configurations.

Korean Air is considering a handful of U.S. cities including Atlanta for service with the A380, a spokeswoman said.

Any airport that can handle a Boeing 747 already can handle an A380, according to Airbus spokeswoman Mary Anne Greczyn.

http://archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/msg47429.html

jacksonart55
May 25, 2011, 10:17 PM
This is good news. Why shouldn't the world's busiest airport (who is also building a new terminal) not be able to handle regular flights from an A380? I could definitely see Korean Air and possibly even Air France flying it here someday.

ThrashATL
May 25, 2011, 10:37 PM
Also with runway 9L-27 (first runway south of the terminals) getting lengthened to 13,000+ feet as well, fully loaded (fuel/pax) 380/747/777's will be accommodated in hot weather for take-off.

SteveD
May 26, 2011, 12:58 PM
Also with runway 9L-27 (first runway south of the terminals) getting lengthened to 13,000+ feet as well, fully loaded (fuel/pax) 380/747/777's will be accommodated in hot weather for take-off.

My house in East Atlanta is directly under an approach pattern for westerly landings. Can't wait to see an A380 floating by overhead.

micropundit
Jun 6, 2011, 11:01 PM
New elevators, expanded restaurant and retail operations highlight project expected to be completed by 2014.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2011/06/06/hartsfields-concourse-d-gets-expansion.html

atl2phx
Mar 13, 2012, 6:41 PM
cool aerials of hartsfield-jackson-intl.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2012/03/scenes-above-atlantas-massive-international-airport/1465/

smArTaLlone
Mar 14, 2012, 8:55 PM
The new international terminal at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport will open May 16, Mayor Kasim Reed announced Tuesday.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2012/03/13/hartsfields-new-international.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2012/03/13/hartsfields-new-international.html)

202_Cyclist
Mar 14, 2012, 9:01 PM
FAA Unveils Shorter Flight Routes for Atlanta

By Alan Levin
Feb 29, 2012

"U.S. aviation regulators are streamlining flight routes around Atlanta and Charlotte, North Carolina, as part of an effort to save fuel and reduce delays at major airports across the country.

The new routes will cut miles flown each year by 3.7 million, the Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement today. That equates to a savings of 6.6 million gallons of fuel, or $17.9 million, according to FAA estimates.

“We’re creating satellite-based procedures that will transform our national airspace system, making it more flexible and decreasing our carbon footprint on the environment,” Michael Huerta, the agency’s acting administrator, said at a press conference in Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport..."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-faa-unveils-shorter-flight-routes-for-atlanta.html

(four 0 four)
Mar 21, 2012, 7:45 PM
For those of you who simply can't wait until the new International Terminal opens on May 16th...
From AJC.com

Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport is seeking 1,500 volunteers to try out its new international terminal before the grand opening.

The airport plans an operational readiness test of the international terminal on the morning of May 2, two weeks before the terminal is scheduled to open on May 16. Plans are to simulate a day of operation and uncover any potential issues that may come up.

Those interested in participating must complete a questionnaire and return it to the airport by March 30. The airport said it will select volunteers by April 15 and notify them by e-mail. The questionnaire asks about willingness to take MARTA to get to the simulation, or to take a shuttle from the main terminal, rental car center or a hotel.

Those selected will be asked to bring at least two pieces of packed luggage to test out the baggage handling system.

Each volunteer will get an itinerary and script to follow, and afterward will be asked to fill out a survey evaluating the facility and giving comments. Those participating will also get a "small commemorative gift."

Information on participating is on the airport's website here: http://www.atlanta-airport.com/InternationalTerminal/news/events.html

bigstick
Mar 31, 2012, 9:11 PM
cool aerials of hartsfield-jackson-intl.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2012/03/scenes-above-atlantas-massive-international-airport/1465/


Those are truly amazing, looks like its own city, which in a way it is.....:cheers:

testarossa50
Apr 13, 2012, 7:16 PM
Later this year we'll be getting service on the new 787 Dreamliner in the form of an Atlanta - Doha route on Qatar Airways.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-13/qatar-airways-to-serve-atlanta-chicago-as-787-deliveries-begin.html

I know the A380 is BIG, but the 787 is more exciting to me honestly.

- It has fewer passengers and is designed to make direct point-to-point routes across the globe more feasible (A380 has much shorter range).
- It has bigger windows and operates at a higher internal cabin pressure, so it should be more comfortable.
- It is more fuel efficient that just about any commercial planes out there today.

Don't get me wrong--I'm definitely excited to see a gargantuan Korean Air A380 taking off out of ATL too!

Pompuss
Apr 13, 2012, 9:26 PM
Damn, I didn't know the 787 had a much larger range. This is great news for Atlanta and correct me if I'm wrong but this would be the first new international passenger airline to Atlanta in twenty years probably. It will be interesting to see how the route performs.

testarossa50
Apr 16, 2012, 10:26 PM
Actually I was wrong about range; they are close to one another (depends on specific model of airplane which is longer). I seem to remember someone expressing doubt about the Atlanta - Seoul A380 route due to the range, but it appears to be well within range of the aircraft.

Not that ATL - ICN is a short flight by any means; I think for a while Atlanta was the longest route served by Korean Air or might still be, which is kind of crazy.

But the fact that an airplane that holds ~250 passengers can make those distances is pretty cool (777s hold 300-400 passengers, and A380s and 747s hold 500+); it means global airlines will be able to reach out to more individual destinations from their hubs, such as what Qatar is doing. I agree it's awesome to have foreign-flagged airlines. Atlanta has so few, with just about every route being utterly dominated by Delta. Qatar has a huge route network and will no doubt be a fantastic option for going to India or the Middle East.

I would really love to see Ethiopian send a 787 to Atlanta too.

ruffles794
May 6, 2012, 6:37 PM
Check out these photos of the new international terminal I took on yesterday 5/5/2012.
Enjoy!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/79854693@N03/

SteveD
May 6, 2012, 7:59 PM
Check out these photos of the new international terminal I took on yesterday 5/5/2012.
Enjoy!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/79854693@N03/

Thanks, ruffles794 nice set! I didn't hear about yesterday's new international terminal open house until I read about it in today's paper.

smArTaLlone
May 8, 2012, 9:44 PM
Nice pics

testarossa50
May 16, 2012, 6:04 PM
International terminal opening today. Still a ton of unanswered questions surrounding it; I imagine it will become clearer in a few days.

N830MH
May 25, 2012, 8:35 PM
Hi All,

Because the shuttle bus has only 14-seat but, it was too small. They need to orders new 40-foot buses. Because it was too many passengers who waiting to get on the shuttle bus back to main terminal. They need to bring a larger new shuttle bus from International terminal to domestic terminal.

http://www.ajc.com/news/new-atlanta-terminal-brings-1445764.html

“It just seemed like an overly onerous process,” said Tom Cooney, of Dunwoody, who waited in line for a shuttle for about 25 minutes when he arrived from London on Saturday.

Officials at Hartsfield-Jackson International acknowledge some glitches -- including using 14-passenger shuttles that are proving too small -- and say they are adding vehicles and considering bigger ones to shorten lines.

jpk1292000
Jun 8, 2012, 6:29 PM
Love this plane in Delta livery!

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2012/06/08/delta-brings-747-400-back-to-atlanta.html

smArTaLlone
Jun 14, 2012, 5:03 PM
Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport is seeking approval for a multi-million dollar contract for a major overhaul of roadways leading up to the domestic terminal.

The Atlanta airport is seeking Atlanta city council approval for a contract worth up to $48.5 million with a joint venture including Thrasher Contracting and C.W. Matthews. The C.W. Matthews/Thrasher joint venture was the lowest eligible bidder for the project, which will be funded with passenger facility charges.

The goal is to widen roadways, improving weaving conditions, avoid backup, blockage and delays, separate conflicting traffic and improve signs, among other improvements to the road network between Interstate 85 and Camp Creek Parkway on the north and Riverdale Road on the south. The airport has said it expects to begin construction in the summer and to finish within two years. It will include new bridges, pavement, walls, lighting and signs and will relocate the airport entrance at Riverdale Road.

The airport said the work will be phased to maintain the current number of traffic lanes along the entire roadway system so traffic can continue to move to and from the terminal during construction.

http://http://www.ajc.com/business/hartsfield-jackson-plans-48-1457432.html

kingchef
Jun 28, 2012, 11:09 PM
certainly, it is exciting and impressive to see and experience, even though i rarely terminate in atlanta. i would not want to have to regularly experience the expanse of the place. my question, however, w/ the money involved, would it have been a better idea to build a second airport on the opposite side of the metro? i think most corporate ideas, businesses, etc., take the position that a particular "thing" maxes out its ideal production, service, etc., somewhat akin to the peter principle. in short, a decent argument for loss of service vs. increased better service, strengthened infrastructure for metro vs. inherent flaws due to size, location, etc. would this last addition/renovation been the right time to plant and grow another great and serviceable airport?

TarHeelJ
Jun 28, 2012, 11:32 PM
certainly, it is exciting and impressive to see and experience, even though i rarely terminate in atlanta. i would not want to have to regularly experience the expanse of the place. my question, however, w/ the money involved, would it have been a better idea to build a second airport on the opposite side of the metro? i think most corporate ideas, businesses, etc., take the position that a particular "thing" maxes out its ideal production, service, etc., somewhat akin to the peter principle. in short, a decent argument for loss of service vs. increased better service, strengthened infrastructure for metro vs. inherent flaws due to size, location, etc. would this last addition/renovation been the right time to plant and grow another great and serviceable airport?

I understand what you're saying, but (in my experience) Hartsfield has always run very efficiently - even with it's massive size. I don't feel like it's maxed out because of the systems in place to keep it efficient.

echinatl
Jun 29, 2012, 12:55 AM
certainly, it is exciting and impressive to see and experience, even though i rarely terminate in atlanta. i would not want to have to regularly experience the expanse of the place. my question, however, w/ the money involved, would it have been a better idea to build a second airport on the opposite side of the metro? i think most corporate ideas, businesses, etc., take the position that a particular "thing" maxes out its ideal production, service, etc., somewhat akin to the peter principle. in short, a decent argument for loss of service vs. increased better service, strengthened infrastructure for metro vs. inherent flaws due to size, location, etc. would this last addition/renovation been the right time to plant and grow another great and serviceable airport?

Doesn't look like size has affected efficiency yet: http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2012/06/28/atrs-again-praises-hartsfield-jackson.html

smArTaLlone
Jun 29, 2012, 12:39 PM
certainly, it is exciting and impressive to see and experience, even though i rarely terminate in atlanta. i would not want to have to regularly experience the expanse of the place. my question, however, w/ the money involved, would it have been a better idea to build a second airport on the opposite side of the metro? i think most corporate ideas, businesses, etc., take the position that a particular "thing" maxes out its ideal production, service, etc., somewhat akin to the peter principle. in short, a decent argument for loss of service vs. increased better service, strengthened infrastructure for metro vs. inherent flaws due to size, location, etc. would this last addition/renovation been the right time to plant and grow another great and serviceable airport?

A new airport would have taken much longer and cost much more than building a new terminal not to mention the difficulty in finding an acceptable location for an airport. A second airport has been considered occasionally for several decades but no suitable location has been identified.

N830MH
Jun 29, 2012, 11:37 PM
One more thing for South Gate complex. When is supposed to get an approved? When they will start construction. I am not quite sure if City of Atlanta will made a decide. If they will considered it. I wasn't sure if MARTA will have extended service to South Gate Complex. Once the construction is completion. When they will relocated to South Gates Complex. DL will takeover whole entire concourse C gates. After that WN/FL will moved to South Gate Complex.

micropundit
Jul 17, 2012, 5:44 PM
The world’s busiest airport is also viewed by business travelers as the best domestic airport, Executive Travel magazine reported Tuesday.

The publication’s Leading Edge Awards for 2012 names Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport the “Best Domestic Airport.”

Award winners are based upon voting by business travelers and readers of the magazine.







http://www.executivetravelmagazine.com/articles/2012-leading-edge-awards

echinatl
Jul 17, 2012, 5:56 PM
Atlanta city council approves nearly $4 million airport art project
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/atlanta-city-council-approves-1479012.html

atlwarrior
Aug 14, 2012, 9:54 PM
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August14, 2012

Korean Air to Introduce Airbus A380 Service to Atlanta from Jan 2013: W12 Operation Changes

by JL


Second Update at 0530GMT 14AUG12

Korean Air from 01JAN13 is launching Airbus A380 service on Seoul Incheon – Atlanta service, where the aircraft will operate daily KE035/036 flight. Initially the Skyteam member will operate A380 on daily basis from 01JAN13 to 31JAN13, but this will be reduced to 3 weekly from 01FEB13. From 01FEB13, overall service to Atlanta appears to be reduced from 10 to 7 weekly as KE033/034 service is closed for reservation.

Schedule:

KE035 ICN1005 – 0930ATL 388 D
KE033 ICN1915 – 1840ATL 772 246

KE034 ATL0100 – 0550+1ICN 772 357
KE036 ATL1200 – 1700+1ICN 388 D

Remarks:
1) From 01FEB13, KE035/036 operates with 777-300ER on Day x357 and A380 on Day 357
2) Reservation for 3 weekly KE033/034 is closed for flights on/after 01FEB13, since 0440GMT 14AUG12





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SteveD
Jan 24, 2013, 8:45 PM
Does anyone know if the Korean Air A380 service between Seoul and Atlanta ever started as referenced above? I just checked the Korean Air website and they are listing Boeing 747 and 777 equipment for this route.

Is the A380 in service for any airline at ATL?

atlwarrior
Jan 27, 2013, 4:51 AM
Does anyone know if the Korean Air A380 service between Seoul and Atlanta ever started as referenced above? I just checked the Korean Air website and they are listing Boeing 747 and 777 equipment for this route.

Is the A380 in service for any airline at ATL?

Hello Steve, the A380 was push back to August 2. I'm looking forward to trying it out. I never flew on a Airbus 380 before.



Korean Air S13 International Operation Changes as of 25JAN13

by JL


Update at 0500GMT 25JAN13

As per 25JAN13 GDS timetable and inventory display, latest changes to Korean Air’s Planned Summer 2013 International operation changes, effective 31MAR13, as follows. Additional changes remain possible.

Seoul Incheon – Aomori Service operates 3 weekly, compared to 4 weekly in S12
Seoul Incheon – Bangkok
KE651/652 Boeing 747-400 replaces 777-300, daily service
KE659/660 3rd service operates during following period: 31MAR13 – 09JUN13, 26JUL13 – 18AUG13, 13SEP13 – 26OCT13 (Operational aircraft is A330-300, BKK departs the next day)

Seoul Incheon – Komatsu 06JUL13 – 31AUG13 Service increases from 4 to 5 weekly
Seoul Incheon – Kota Kinabalu 2 weekly operation currently planned on/after 31MAR13 with Boeing 737-900ER. Reservation is not available at present time
Seoul Incheon – Manila
31MAR13 – 19MAY13 Service increases from 18 weekly (same period in 2012) to 21 weekly. KE649/650 operates with Boeing 737-800 and/or A330-300
31MAR13 – 01JUN13 KE621/622, KE623/624 operates with Boeing 747-400 instead of 777-300

Seoul Incheon – Okayama Service increases from daily to 9 weekly
Seoul Incheon – Phuket Airbus A330-300 replaced by following
31MAR13 – 19JUL13 Boeing 777-200 (HKT departure 01APR13 – 20JUL13)
20JUL13 – 20AUG13 Boeing 777-300 (HKT departure 21JUL13 – 21AUG13)

Seoul Incheon – Sapporo KE765/766 Airbus A330-200 operating, replacing previously planned Boeing 777-300
Seoul Incheon – Siem Reap Day 36 operated by Boeing 737-800, replaces -900ER
Seoul Incheon – Xiamen eff 26MAY13 Service increases from 4 weekly to daily, 737-900ER operating
Seoul Incheon – Zhengzhou eff 29MAY13 Day 357 service operated by Airbus A330-200, replacing 737-900ER (Day x357 with 737-800)

Currently, following routes are showing as cancelled:
Seoul Incheon – Hakodate 3 weekly
Seoul Incheon – Nagasaki 2 weekly

Previously reported changes:
Seoul Incheon – Atlanta KE033/034 operational aircraft changes. 777-300ER to operate daily, while A380 operation remains on track to enter operation from 02AUG13.
31MAR13 – 28APR13 388 Day 357 77W Day x357
29APR13 – 01AUG13 77W Daily
eff 02AUG13 388 Day 357 77W Day x357

KE035/036 continues with 3 weekly 777-200ER service

Seoul Incheon – Auckland Service reduced from 5 weekly in NS12 to 4 weekly in NS13, 777-200ER operating
Seoul Incheon – Cairo Reservation for the 2 weekly A330-300 service is closed from 01MAR13 to 31AUG13 (Previously planned resumption from 01APR13 is pushed back till 01SEP13 as a result)
Seoul Incheon – Colombo – Male eff 09MAR13 NEW 3 weekly A330-300 service (Colombo is service resumption)
Seoul Incheon – Dallas eff 04MAY13 Service increases from 5 weekly to daily remains unchanged. Planned daily service has seen further adjustment, which will now operate until 26OCT13 (Previous revision displays daily service till 27AUG13). Boeing 777-200ER operating
Seoul Incheon – Hong Kong KE601/602 aircraft changes
31MAR13 – 29APR13 332 Day x245 77W Day 24 772 Day 5
30APR13 – 28JUL13 73H Daily
29JUL13 – 25AUG13 77W Daily
26AUG13 – 26OCT13 73H Daily

Seoul Incheon – Honolulu KE051/052 Airbus A330 operating instead of Boeing 747-400 from 31MAR13 to 28MAY13 and from 20SEP13 to 26OCT13.
Seoul Incheon – Kuala Lumpur Boeing 777-300ER operating (from 01MAR13), replaces -200ER in S12
Seoul Incheon – Las Vegas 05MAY13 – 25AUG13 Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly, Boeing 777-200ER operating
Seoul Incheon – London Gatwick Reservation for the 3 weekly 777-200ER service, due to resume from 27APR13 is cancelled as reservation remains closed
Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles KE011/012 Boeing 777-300ER replaces 747-400 starting 01FEB13, except following period: 03JUN13 – 25AUG13
Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles – Sao Paulo Boeing 777-300ER aircraft continues to operate 3 weekly flights
Seoul Incheon – Melbourne 3 weekly service cancelled from 03MAR13
Seoul Incheon – Moscow Sheremetyevo 01JUL13 – 01SEP13 Service increases from 4 to 5 weekly (routine seasonal increase)
Seoul Incheon – New York JFK KE085/086 01AUG13 – 23AUG13 Airbus A380 replaces 777-300ER (Double Daily A380 service during this period; JFK departure 02AUG13 to 24AUG13)
Seoul Incheon – Paris CDG KE901/902 operational aircraft changes
31MAR13 – 02JUN13 744 Daily
eff 03JUN13 744 Day x146 77W Day 146

Seoul Incheon – St. Petersburg 3 weekly A330-200 service during Summer season operates from 23APR13 to 07SEP13
Seoul Incheon – Taipei Taoyuan KE691/692 A330-300 operates on daily basis
Seoul Incheon – Tokyo Narita Overall service increases from 4 to 5 daily
Seoul Incheon - Tokyo Narita – Honolulu Service resumption with 1 daily A330-300 (Replacing Tokyo Narita – Los Angeles A330-200 service, which is being cancelled)
Seoul Incheon – Vancouver 20JUN13 – 08SEP13 Service increases from 5 weekly to daily (routing seasonal increase), however this will be operated by Boeing 747-400 instead of 777-200ER
Seoul Incheon - Vladivostok Boeing 737-900ER operates in S13, replacing previously planned A330-200
Busan – Tokyo Naria Service increases from 1 to 2 daily
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SteveD
Jan 27, 2013, 5:15 PM
Thanks for the update, Atlwarrior! I've haven't flown the A380 yet either.

Also, my house in East Atlanta is directly under the flight path for arrivals on the north arrivals runway (26L 8R) landing to the west. I'm looking forward to seeing this beast float by overhead when service starts.

atlwarrior
Jan 27, 2013, 5:28 PM
Thanks for the update, Atlwarrior! I've haven't flown the A380 yet either.

Also, my house in East Atlanta is directly under the flight path for arrivals on the north arrivals runway (26L 8R) landing to the west. I'm looking forward to seeing this beast float by overhead when service starts.

I was wondering which runway, the A380 would use. My cousin had a house off Bouldercrest Road, and I use to love seeing those big jets coming in.

SteveD
Jan 27, 2013, 8:18 PM
I was wondering which runway, the A380 would use. My cousin had a house off Bouldercrest Road, and I use to love seeing those big jets coming in.

Me too. I suppose it may be a function of which makes the most sense logistically for whichever gates it will use at the new International terminal, because all three runways typically used for landings are the same length and width. I do know that some taxiways were widened in advance of the A380 coming into use at Hartsfield Jackson so if I could figure out where that work took place it might provide a clue as to which of the runways it is most likely to land on.

atlwarrior
Jan 28, 2013, 12:48 AM
Me too. I suppose it may be a function of which makes the most sense logistically for whichever gates it will use at the new International terminal, because all three runways typically used for landings are the same length and width. I do know that some taxiways were widened in advance of the A380 coming into use at Hartsfield Jackson so if I could figure out where that work took place it might provide a clue as to which of the runways it is most likely to land on.

Thanks that would be great if you can find out. I suspect that many airplane Spotters will be there on August 2 to get a view of that big baby landing at Hartsfield. I always find that when winds are out of the east, it provides for the best views for spotting. Either planes fly directly over College Park Train Station or Interstate 85 Old National Highway. I know Hartsfield renovate at least two gate on Concourse E for Airbus 380's. I believe Air France could be next to announce 380 service, with its huge Skyteam partner Delta.

SteveD
Jan 28, 2013, 2:45 PM
Thanks that would be great if you can find out. I suspect that many airplane Spotters will be there on August 2 to get a view of that big baby landing at Hartsfield. I always find that when winds are out of the east, it provides for the best views for spotting. Either planes fly directly over College Park Train Station or Interstate 85 Old National Highway. I know Hartsfield renovate at least two gate on Concourse E for Airbus 380's. I believe Air France could be next to announce 380 service, with its huge Skyteam partner Delta.

I did some research online and it appears that all of the runway and taxiway widening construction was related to the 27R and 27L runways, which means the A380 will likely operate exclusively on the runways south of midfield.

This means it won't ever be floating over my house on an approach to 26R. :(

micropundit
Jan 28, 2013, 10:44 PM
http://assets.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/delta%20outdoor%20sky%20deck%20atlanta.JPG?v=1

The Atlanta-based airline said it teamed with Architectural Digest to develop its first-ever outdoor airport terraces, called The Sky Deck at Delta Sky Club in Concourse F of Atlanta’s new international terminal and at JFK’s redeveloped Terminal 4. Architectural Digest picked designer Thom Filicia to create the terraces.

The new space in Atlanta will be near the Delta Sky Club in Concourse F and will open this summer.




http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2013/01/28/delta-plans-outdoor-terrace-at.html

atlantaguy
Jan 31, 2013, 4:05 AM
^Now this is VERY cool! Thanks for posting, micropundit.

dewE
Feb 15, 2013, 9:53 AM
I will be flying (Delta) to Atlanta from Toronto in April, then connecting with a (Delta) flight to Savannah. It's my first time flying to this airport and I'm a little worried about the connecting flight being only 45 minutes apart.

For any of you guys familiar with the airport, will I have to make my way from the international terminal to a domestic terminal for the connecting flight?
If so, do you know which terminal it will be?

That info would certainly be very helpful!!

ps I will be doing the same thing on the way back.

SteveD
Feb 15, 2013, 11:46 AM
I will be flying (Delta) to Atlanta from Toronto in April, then connecting with a (Delta) flight to Savannah. It's my first time flying to this airport and I'm a little worried about the connecting flight being only 45 minutes apart.

For any of you guys familiar with the airport, will I have to make my way from the international terminal to a domestic terminal for the connecting flight?
If so, do you know which terminal it will be?

That info would certainly be very helpful!!

ps I will be doing the same thing on the way back.

You should be fine with the transfer. In general, airlines won't allow you to book something for which the transfer time isn't feasible. The two terminals (International and Domestic) are on opposite sides of the airport. There won't be a reason for you to go to the Domestic terminal; you'll just be transferring between concourses.

You might arrive at an "F" gate or any other gate (F gates are contiguous with the International terminal). There is a train which connects to all the other concourses (T, A, B, C, D, E). There's no way to predict which concourse your connecting flight to Savannah will be on...Delta has such a massive presence at the airport it could feasibly be any one of them (I'm assuming you are on Delta). Just find the gate on a display screen and use the train (its actually bus rapid transit!) that runs underground and perpendicular to each concourse.

You walk to central escalators in each concourse that drop you down to the connecting train level. Don't sweat. You'll be fine.

OCA REP
Feb 15, 2013, 2:04 PM
You should be fine with the transfer. In general, airlines won't allow you to book something for which the transfer time isn't feasible. The two terminals (International and Domestic) are on opposite sides of the airport. There won't be a reason for you to go to the Domestic terminal; you'll just be transferring between concourses.

You might arrive at an "F" gate or any other gate (F gates are contiguous with the International terminal). There is a train which connects to all the other concourses (T, A, B, C, D, E). There's no way to predict which concourse your connecting flight to Savannah will be on...Delta has such a massive presence at the airport it could feasibly be any one of them (I'm assuming you are on Delta). Just find the gate on a display screen and use the train (its actually bus rapid transit!) that runs underground and perpendicular to each concourse.

You walk to central escalators in each concourse that drop you down to the connecting train level. Don't sweat. You'll be fine.

Actually, if memory serves me correctly, you will pre-clear USA Customs at YYZ and land at a domestic terminal in ATL. Just checking today's arrivals, they all appear to be arriving on Concourse D. You will have a very quick and easy connection... and 45 minutes will be just about perfect.

Safe travels!

atlantaguy
Feb 15, 2013, 2:27 PM
^OCA REP, your memory does serve you correctly. You do pre-clear U.S. Customs in Toronto.

dewE
Feb 15, 2013, 8:15 PM
@OCA REP, Steve D, & atlantaguy

Thanks for the very helpful tips!!!
As mentioned above, I found out that I do clear customs in Toronto and it will then be treated as a domestic flight. The CAA Southern Ontario sales rep. thinks it will probably be the same terminal, but not a sure thing. I won't have to pick up my checked bag until Savannah, so all of the above are certainly going to help.

Thanks for taking the time to reply!!!

atlantaguy
Feb 15, 2013, 8:30 PM
No problem at all, dewE! Have a great trip, and enjoy Savannah - it's wonderful.

N830MH
Mar 13, 2013, 7:03 AM
Hello All,

I just went through ATL last week. I visit at entire new terminal F and it's so beautiful!!!

Here the pictures:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/TramstationF.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/Artwork.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/TerminalFstairs.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/NewTerminalF.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/TerminalFstairs.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/DutyFree.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/Departure.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/NewTerminalFa.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/TerminalF.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/TerminalF1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/FGates.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/Elevator.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/FoodCourt.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/FoodCourt1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/Shopping.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/CenterofFGates.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/Escalator.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/Montblanc.jpg

Enjoy!

smArTaLlone
Apr 1, 2013, 5:42 PM
Its interesting that O&D traffic to Seoul has surged to 188,207 becoming the top international O&D market to/from Atlanta.


1. Seoul-Incheon, South Korea

30,091 (2003 passenger total)

188,207 (2011 passenger total)

+525.5% (change 2003-2011)



2. London, United Kingdom

190,669

185,587

-2.7%



3. Toronto, Canada

115,484

177,215

+53.5%



4. Cancun, Mexico

74,526

165,260

+121.7%



5. Montego Bay, Jamaica

77,368

97,117

+25.5%

http://www.brookings.edu/research/interactives/aviation

atlantaguy
Apr 2, 2013, 3:22 AM
This validates the depth of our Korean community here. No wonder Korean Air is starting A380 service this summer.

Interesting that Atlanta appears to be the only East Coast city with an Asian destination as their #1 O&D international market. This is very good news.

Rail Claimore
Apr 6, 2013, 8:17 AM
This validates the depth of our Korean community here. No wonder Korean Air is starting A380 service this summer.

Interesting that Atlanta appears to be the only East Coast city with an Asian destination as their #1 O&D international market. This is very good news.

I believe LA, NY, and SF are the only bigger US O&D markets for Seoul. And Atlanta is still growing.

Labtec
Apr 6, 2013, 10:12 PM
Probably because a lot of the executives and Korean employees at Kia Motor Plant (West Point, Georgia) and Hyundai (in Alabama) go through Atlanta.

bryantm3
Apr 8, 2013, 7:26 AM
Probably because a lot of the executives and Korean employees at Kia Motor Plant (West Point, Georgia) and Hyundai (in Alabama) go through Atlanta.

Trust me, that isn't he main reason. Have you seen our Koreatown? There are some pretty large swaths of the metro area where almost every sign is in Korean. Supposedly we have the fifth largest K-town in the US.

AtlantaMustang
Apr 8, 2013, 12:39 PM
I think that GaTech and Emory probably don't hurt those numbers.

dewE
Apr 22, 2013, 4:34 PM
I just wanted to thank the guys again who answered me on an earlier post about a short transfer time I had at Atlanta.
I made the transfer with time to spare. For me the Atlanta airport was the easiest of any airport to figure out and get around, especially one of that size.

For anyone who has a transfer to another flight at this airport here are a couple of tips:

1. Go to the airport's website and under "passenger information", select "terminal maps", to get an idea of the layout before you land there.
2. The underground train runs through the "middle" of each terminal with escalators on two sides. Depending on which terminal you land at and where you are going will decide which escalator you take (they are labelled very well).
3. As soon as you get off your plane check the "city/flight number" on one of the flight boards (this will tell you which terminal that flight is leaving from)
4. The Train/Shuttle is right at the bottom of the escalator and they come quite often.
5. If you check your flight status and gate # the night before your flight, consider it just a possibility, they change often. Mine changed both going to my destination and on the way back. But don't panic, it only took me about 10 minutes to get to the correct terminal (both times it was 2 terminals away).

The only thing that was a bit confusing to me was, the night before my flight the airline flight status called one of the terminals "domestic south". You can ignore the wording, just go by the "letter" in front of the gate number...as in "D24" is terminal D gate 24.

Hope that helps.

RudyJK
Apr 25, 2013, 2:25 AM
I just wanted to thank the guys again who answered me on an earlier post about a short transfer time I had at Atlanta.
I made the transfer with time to spare. For me the Atlanta airport was the easiest of any airport to figure out and get around, especially one of that size.



It's interesting to hear of others experiences with an airport that you know well. I've always thought ATL is easy to navigate compared to others. Its linear nature makes it easy to grasp. It may lack quirks or charm, but it is easy to get around, if you can walk.

dewE
Apr 27, 2013, 3:43 AM
It's interesting to hear of others experiences with an airport that you know well. I've always thought ATL is easy to navigate compared to others. Its linear nature makes it easy to grasp. It may lack quirks or charm, but it is easy to get around, if you can walk.

I agree. I haven't been to too many large airports, but of the ones I have been to, this was the easiest to figure out and get around.

Stratosphere 2020
May 24, 2013, 8:16 PM
14fe8Ix-oVE

atlantaguy
May 25, 2013, 5:54 PM
^Way cool, Stratosphere 2020! Thanks for sharing.

atlwarrior
May 26, 2013, 3:38 AM
http://shar.es/ZF5S1

atlwarrior
May 26, 2013, 4:39 AM
14fe8Ix-oVE

Very nice, my respect has went way up for the Atl behind the scene workers. Wow

atlantaguy
May 26, 2013, 11:43 PM
Very nice, my respect has went way up for the Atl behind the scene workers. Wow

Ditto! Pretty damn impressive.

Libertarian
May 29, 2013, 9:41 PM
Delta's new JFK international terminal
http://www.jaunted.com/story/2013/5/24/64924/7900/travel/What+a+%241.4+Billion+Airport+Upgrade+Looks+Like%3A+Inside+Delta%27s+New+Terminal+4+at+JFK

Libertarian
Jul 1, 2013, 9:47 PM
Delta's new corporate museum
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2013/06/27/slideshow-delta-museum.html

N830MH
Jul 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
Hello All,

The new concourse D midpoint expansion is scheduled to open. Here some pics:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/426209_195927000571597_115931928_n.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/998879_195926993904931_1855499338_n.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/942724_195927067238257_187409424_n.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/ScottysAir/562711_195926963904934_1147388738_n.jpg

SteveD
Jul 21, 2013, 12:09 AM
:previous:

That's great news! I hadn't even heard of that project. HJAIA's impact on this metro and region simply cannot be overstated.

Stratosphere 2020
Aug 17, 2013, 2:59 PM
s-KkGSy8mC0

atlwarrior
Aug 28, 2013, 6:31 AM
Will anyone be trying to spot the Korean Airlines A380 that comes to Atlanta on Sept 1. I believe it will be the Korean flight that arrives in the morning. Can anyone confirm. I know if winds are from the east College Park train station will have the best view.

SteveD
Sep 3, 2013, 8:32 PM
just found this video on youtube of the first ever A380 take off from Hartsfield-Jackson.

First Ever A380 take-off from Atlanta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_X_5gem-0)

L41A
Sep 4, 2013, 8:46 AM
just found this video on youtube of the first ever A380 take off from Hartsfield-Jackson.

First Ever A380 take-off from Atlanta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_X_5gem-0)

WOW! Thanks for sharing.

N830MH
Sep 6, 2013, 3:58 AM
just found this video on youtube of the first ever A380 take off from Hartsfield-Jackson.

First Ever A380 take-off from Atlanta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_X_5gem-0)

Hey! Thanks for sharing! I appreciate that. They're great!!!

atlantaguy
Sep 7, 2013, 5:19 AM
This is a strong testament of our ties to Asia, Korea in particular. No other city between D.C. and Texas in this huge region has nonstop flights to Tokyo, let alone Seoul. This is why Delta runs 747's to Tokyo daily, and now Korean is mixing the A-380 with 777's.

The ties between ATL and Korea just keep getting stronger, and it benefits the entire Southeast - including Florida. The ties to Japan were established years ago, with over 500 Japanese companies having a presence in Georgia.

Rail Claimore
Sep 7, 2013, 6:21 AM
This is a strong testament of our ties to Asia, Korea in particular. No other city between D.C. and Texas in this huge region has nonstop flights to Tokyo, let alone Seoul. This is why Delta runs 747's to Tokyo daily, and now Korean is mixing the A-380 with 777's.

The ties between ATL and Korea just keep getting stronger, and it benefits the entire Southeast - including Florida. The ties to Japan were established years ago, with over 500 Japanese companies having a presence in Georgia.

I don't know how AA makes 2X daily service to NRT out of DFW work considering there's also 1X daily service on UA out of IAH and AA is bleeding money like crazy (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5826012) on practically all its transpacific routes. They just cut their ORD-NRT service to 5X weekly while NH is now doing 2X daily and UA just upgauged their service to 744 from 777. And despite Texas' strong business ties to East Asia, Texas' Japanese population numbers roughly 17K. I'd wager there's twice that number in the Southeastern states served by ATL alone.

I'm also still trying to figure out how AA is making DFW-ICN work when KE doesn't even fly daily out of DFW (just 5X weekly). DFW is a poor connecting point to Asia for anyone outside Texas or Louisiana.

We should count our blessings: ATL-ICN is by far the biggest transpacific route out of the Southern US, and is probably the only route that can maintain daily service on O&D alone if it came down to that. I'd like to also see 2X daily service brought back on the ATL-NRT route. That used to be the frequency a few years ago, but it seems that ICN is the favored connecting point to the rest of Asia via Skyteam partner KE.

atlantaguy
Sep 7, 2013, 6:54 AM
I don't know how AA makes 2X daily service to NRT out of DFW work considering there's also 1X daily service on UA out of IAH and AA is bleeding money like crazy (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5826012) on practically all its transpacific routes. They just cut their ORD-NRT service to 5X weekly while NH is now doing 2X daily and UA just upgauged their service to 744 from 777. And despite Texas' strong business ties to East Asia, Texas' Japanese population numbers roughly 17K. I'd wager there's twice that number in the Southeastern states served by ATL alone.

You know Rail, I would not be surprised if a portion of that traffic on AA from Dallas is the extremely loyal base of Miami flyers. I think the rest of Florida probably transits through here. I'm frankly shocked at how small the Japanese population of TX is, though. The Japanese Consulate of Atlanta estimated the population here as high as 10,000 in the Metro alone way back in 1990! I can't find current numbers, but I suspect they would at least be double that or more now. And you are right as far as AA bleeding $$ on their Asian routes - it's sad, but it is by far their weakest spot.

I'm also still trying to figure out how AA is making DFW-ICN work when KE doesn't even fly daily out of DFW (just 5X weekly). DFW is a poor connecting point to Asia for anyone outside Texas or Louisiana.

It has to be the fantastic economy in the DFW area - what else can explain this?

We should count our blessings: ATL-ICN is by far the biggest transpacific route out of the Southern US, and is probably the only route that can maintain daily service on O&D alone if it came down to that. I'd like to also see 2X daily service brought back on the ATL-NRT route. That used to be the frequency a few years ago, but it seems that ICN is the favored connecting point to the rest of Asia via Skyteam partner KE.

Yeah, I agree. But, as someone that sends people all over the world every day, many of my clients very much prefer transiting through ICN far, far more than they do NRT lately. It's one of the nicest hubs in the world, and I honestly believe NRT is going to slowly be downsized by Delta. Especially combined with the buildup of Seattle as the new trans-Pacific West Coast hub, and the new aircraft order announced this week. It will never go away, but it will be shrinking. Flights into HND won't help matters.

You continue to amaze me with your knowledge of the business! :tup:

Rail Claimore
Sep 7, 2013, 4:09 PM
I'm frankly shocked at how small the Japanese population of TX is, though. The Japanese Consulate of Atlanta estimated the population here as high as 10,000 in the Metro alone way back in 1990! I can't find current numbers, but I suspect they would at least be double that or more now. And you are right as far as AA bleeding $$ on their Asian routes - it's sad, but it is by far their weakest spot.



Texas has a large Asian population, but it's disproportionately Chinese and Vietnamese. Last I checked, in the 90's, the Japanese population in the state of Georgia was around 7000. It's probably above 10K now, but there hasn't been much emigration to the US from Japan in recent decades, even with all the corporate investments nationwide. The NRT flight is easily supported via connections from other Southeastern states, and especially Florida (Orlando in particular).




Yeah, I agree. But, as someone that sends people all over the world every day, many of my clients very much prefer transiting through ICN far, far more than they do NRT lately. It's one of the nicest hubs in the world, and I honestly believe NRT is going to slowly be downsized by Delta. Especially combined with the buildup of Seattle as the new trans-Pacific West Coast hub, and the new aircraft order announced this week. It will never go away, but it will be shrinking. Flights into HND won't help matters.



Expect more slots at more times to open at HND in the next few years. They're already adding another pier to the new international terminal and plans are in the works for a 5th runway. Whether ATL gets HND service in the next few years is anyone's guess, but I'd expect UA to get favorable treatment with the next awarding of slots. That means service to SFO and ORD. If DL gets another slot, they may very well try ATL for at least a year. If not ATL, then JFK is the obvious choice. I don't think AA is doing too well with their seasonal HND service out of there, but DL could definitely make it work.

atlantaguy
Sep 7, 2013, 10:12 PM
Texas has a large Asian population, but it's disproportionately Chinese and Vietnamese. Last I checked, in the 90's, the Japanese population in the state of Georgia was around 7000. It's probably above 10K now, but there hasn't been much emigration to the US from Japan in recent decades, even with all the corporate investments nationwide. The NRT flight is easily supported via connections from other Southeastern states, and especially Florida (Orlando in particular).

Yeah, I was going by this - granted, it is from Wiki, but I do trust the Japanese Consulate:

In 1990 Greater Atlanta had the largest Japanese population in the Southeast United States. The Consulate General of Japan in Atlanta estimated that, during that year, 7,500 to 10,000 Japanese lived in Greater Atlanta. Of the metropolitan areas in the Southeast United States, as of 1990 Greater Atlanta had the most extensive education network for Japanese nationals.




Expect more slots at more times to open at HND in the next few years. They're already adding another pier to the new international terminal and plans are in the works for a 5th runway. Whether ATL gets HND service in the next few years is anyone's guess, but I'd expect UA to get favorable treatment with the next awarding of slots. That means service to SFO and ORD. If DL gets another slot, they may very well try ATL for at least a year. If not ATL, then JFK is the obvious choice. I don't think AA is doing too well with their seasonal HND service out of there, but DL could definitely make it work.

I really don't expect ATL to get HND service, but it would be fantastic!

Tuckerman
Sep 9, 2013, 1:49 PM
Just last week I transited through Seoul on Thai Air on the way to and from Bangkok - very effortless and efficient at Seoul. A business colleague at the same meeting in BK went though NRT on Delta and was not so lucky - Delta canceled connecting flight to NRT and he wound up going back on same plane as I took on Thai through Seoul. Seoul airport is very modern and easy to use. Looking forward to trying the 380 to Seoul.

N830MH
Sep 21, 2013, 5:28 AM
Unfortunately, there will be no A380 in ATL anymore. They have adjusted the schedule. They swap from A380 to 772ER aircraft. Due to low demand.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/09/02/ke-atljfk-sep13/

atlantaguy
Sep 21, 2013, 5:37 AM
Unfortunately, there will be no A380 in ATL anymore. They have adjusted the schedule. They swap from A380 to 772ER aircraft. Due to low demand.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/09/02/ke-atljfk-sep13/

Sorry, but no. This is for a 10 day period only, and your post is very misleading. Read the link that you posted again, and it is very clear.

There is no demand as high in the entire Southeastern U.S. to anywhere in Asia as there is daily to Seoul to and from Atlanta. This is the home of the fastest growing Korean community in the country. The ties are strong, and only getting stronger.

Trust me when I tell you that Korean Air is a very smart Airline, and they are adjusting for capacity demands for a certain period. Nothing more, nothing less.

Rail Claimore
Sep 22, 2013, 5:25 AM
Sorry, but no. This is for a 10 day period only, and your post is very misleading. Read the link that you posted again, and it is very clear.

There is no demand as high in the entire Southeastern U.S. to anywhere in Asia as there is daily to Seoul to and from Atlanta. This is the home of the fastest growing Korean community in the country. The ties are strong, and only getting stronger.

Trust me when I tell you that Korean Air is a very smart Airline, and they are adjusting for capacity demands for a certain period. Nothing more, nothing less.

Isn't AF supposed to start CDG-ATL A380 service soon?

atlwarrior
Sep 22, 2013, 3:55 PM
Unfortunately, there will be no A380 in ATL anymore. They have adjusted the schedule. They swap from A380 to 772ER aircraft. Due to low demand.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/09/02/ke-atljfk-sep13/

No this was just a temporary move, the A380 goes daily from Atlanta in October. Also the 777-300 landed in Atlanta just today on Sept. 22.

atlantaguy
Sep 22, 2013, 4:46 PM
Isn't AF supposed to start CDG-ATL A380 service soon?

Rail, I have to admit I haven't heard anything about this.

I know during the Summer Delta & Air France were running 3 daily flights between them ( 2 DL/ 1 AF), but now we're back to two - one on each. I'm not sure if the demand is there or not. I do know that the loads are always high.

ThrashATL
Sep 22, 2013, 9:46 PM
Isn't AF supposed to start CDG-ATL A380 service soon?

Actually, ATL would be likely to see a Lufthansa A380 fly in before Air France... but eventually BOTH will join Korean Air with the fatboy service.

atlwarrior
Sep 22, 2013, 9:59 PM
Actually, ATL would be likely to see a Lufthansa A380 fly in before Air France... but eventually BOTH will join Korean Air with the fatboy service.

Does anyone know the Lufthansa's Atlanta to Frankfurt load factor numbers. Would A380 be feasible and profitable for Lufthansa to use.