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MichaelB
Jan 12, 2012, 4:16 PM
i personally wish we had more buildings like the Shore in this area. am i the only one that thinks the shore is one of the coolest looking buildings ever? i don't care if we have glass or not but that building is one of my favorite buildings to look at in downtown. i like the color schemes. it almost looks like a toy building. and if they kept that going on rainey street it would make it look like a downtown all onto its own.
Ya know I hear ya.... I personally wouldn't go as far as "ever" ;-) ..... but there was certainly way more effort in that building than it's neighbors. It is kinda derivative of 80's post modern Miami in a good way ( Arquitectonica was firm to be exact... check them out) and updates that nicely. So I totally get what attracts you.
I do think you raise an intersting point that will soon be the center of much debate: How much and 'how" do you deveolpe Rainey. Remember the entertainment and residential have fed each other in that area. The atmosphere is unique for a downtown area. The loss of the cool restaurants in houses ( and all the great trees around them) would mean the loss of the character of the area. Loose characeter.... nothing to attrack folks except more potentially generic box housing. So...... it will be interesting to see if those developing will be smart enough to have forsight and make it a very unique living corer of downtown, or if it gets mowed under.
And yes it needs a grocery story already!
Note: I just looked at Arquitectonica;s work today. It has moved no nicely, so you would need to search thier work in the 80s to see the comparison. Buildings like "The Atlantis" that was built in '82 is easy to find in pics..... thought it does not compare exactly. Have fun!
Jdawgboy
Jan 12, 2012, 8:48 PM
This is where tall point towers with small footprints comes into play. I believe the city wants a transitional phase for Rainy Street, where the old neighborhood feel blends in with the new urban fabric. So I would expect to see stacked setbacks away from the street with point towers in this area. Though this new building proposed is not a point tower, I think we will see more buildings similar to Legacy proposed.
Rainy street is now zoned for full CBD zoning, which means that it will be developed as such. Any arguments or discussions with how much to build up that area should have already concluded. Plus the Downtown Austin plan has specific guidelines that will dictate how that area will grow in the future.
Hill Country
Jan 12, 2012, 11:17 PM
Confirmed to be 23 stories.
The most impressive aspect of this project, IMO, is the amount of retail frontage on Rainey Street. We're overdue for some non-bar commercial amenities in the 'hood.
Nice interview on KXAN.
Downtown_Austin
Jan 13, 2012, 2:52 AM
Nice interview on KXAN.
Thanks!
Remember the entertainment and residential have fed each other in that area.
I know you had lots of good things to say, but I would like to take a moment to home in on the quoted point and remember that long before the beer bars and restaurants there was a neighborhood, and then a few condos, Towers on Town Lake and Red River - the true pioneers of the area. Later on Milago arrived, and helped renew interest in the area, and about 5 years after Milago, the entertainment (beer bars) arrived to "feed" off the scene. (although Chain Drive was well established). My point is, there was no feeding off each other, the beer bars came long after the residential (even long after Milago) and fed off the residential. Its disturbing to hear any other story... because its not accurate, and would be taking credit when credit is not due. Brought this up, because this is what one of the owners claimed, and after having a good laugh, decided it was just too righteous and self absorbing to listen to. Maybe the owner was misquoted, but don't think that is the case. (owner claimed the area was nothing till its bars came.... guess the rest of us were just nothing)
MichaelB
Jan 13, 2012, 2:37 PM
I know you had lots of good things to say, but I would like to take a moment to home in on the quoted point and remember that long before the beer bars and restaurants there was a neighborhood, and then a few condos, Towers on Town Lake and Red River - the true pioneers of the area. Later on Milago arrived, and helped renew interest in the area, and about 5 years after Milago, the entertainment (beer bars) arrived to "feed" off the scene. (although Chain Drive was well established). My point is, there was no feeding off each other, the beer bars came long after the residential (even long after Milago) and fed off the residential. Its disturbing to hear any other story... because its not accurate, and would be taking credit when credit is not due. Brought this up, because this is what one of the owners claimed, and after having a good laugh, decided it was just too righteous and self absorbing to listen to. Maybe the owner was misquoted, but don't think that is the case. (owner claimed the area was nothing till its bars came.... guess the rest of us were just nothing)
I get ya. It was a broad generalization based on not wanting to see Rainy Street develope without depth. One of the reasons, back 10 years ago, when donwtown options were few and far between, we did not consider Towers is because of how isolated it felt. Go figure.
MichaelB
Jan 13, 2012, 2:38 PM
I know you had lots of good things to say, but I would like to take a moment to home in on the quoted point and remember that long before the beer bars and restaurants there was a neighborhood, and then a few condos, Towers on Town Lake and Red River - the true pioneers of the area. Later on Milago arrived, and helped renew interest in the area, and about 5 years after Milago, the entertainment (beer bars) arrived to "feed" off the scene. (although Chain Drive was well established). My point is, there was no feeding off each other, the beer bars came long after the residential (even long after Milago) and fed off the residential. Its disturbing to hear any other story... because its not accurate, and would be taking credit when credit is not due. Brought this up, because this is what one of the owners claimed, and after having a good laugh, decided it was just too righteous and self absorbing to listen to. Maybe the owner was misquoted, but don't think that is the case. (owner claimed the area was nothing till its bars came.... guess the rest of us were just nothing)
.... and thank you for the thoughtfulness and politeness of your response. Seems to be a lost art these days! ;-)
BevoLJ
Jan 14, 2012, 3:01 PM
i personally wish we had more buildings like the Shore in this area. am i the only one that thinks the shore is one of the coolest looking buildings ever? i don't care if we have glass or not but that building is one of my favorite buildings to look at in downtown. i like the color schemes. it almost looks like a toy building. and if they kept that going on rainey street it would make it look like a downtown all onto its own.I agree. While it isn't the modern glass ones that we all like so much, it is kinda unique (in Austin) for its look. And I like its look very much.
austlar1
Jan 14, 2012, 8:30 PM
i personally wish we had more buildings like the Shore in this area. am i the only one that thinks the shore is one of the coolest looking buildings ever? i don't care if we have glass or not but that building is one of my favorite buildings to look at in downtown. i like the color schemes. it almost looks like a toy building. and if they kept that going on rainey street it would make it look like a downtown all onto its own.
I like the Shore a lot also. I like the fact that it actually looks like an apartment house, a well designed apartment house. It must be nice to have some real walls inside for hanging art or blocking out the harsh sunlight. The color scheme is appealing. I like the side facing towards the lake (and the Mexican Cultural Center parking lot) a lot. I like the facade that faces east also. At first it seems bland and uninspired, but upon closer inspection it is well organized, highly functional, and pleasant to look at while stuck in traffic headed north on 35.
austlar1
Jan 14, 2012, 8:43 PM
Also, The Shore appears to be one of the few high rise condos downtown with truly private balconies and terraces. Can you imagine shelling out close to a million at the Four Seasons to be able to go out on your balcony and wave to your neighbors out on their balconies. I am talking about the large balconies tacked on to the four corners of the Four Seasons. That is one of the worst designed high rise projects i have ever seen. On the other hand, the project seems to have sold pretty well, so maybe I am missing something here.
hookem
Jan 14, 2012, 10:47 PM
Thought this article was interesting, mentions the 250ft observation tower specifically:
http://www.statesman.com/sports/formula1/austin-firm-pushes-to-finish-f1-track-work-2099095.html
Last year, it was announced that Miró Rivera was designing a signature piece of the circuit, a 250-foot-high observation tower.
I had assumed that this tower would be in a later phase of the project, and not ready for this year's F1 race, but:
Fans who want to get a sense of the scale will be able to take an elevator to the top of the observation deck. Epstein said Wednesday that the deck would be part of the initial phase of construction, not something that would be added later.
Photo from the statesman article:
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/00/23/00/slideshow_1002308130_rbz_Formula_1_Update_22.JPG
TXAlex
Jan 15, 2012, 1:40 AM
I agree. While it isn't the modern glass ones that we all like so much, it is kinda unique (in Austin) for its look. And I like its look very much.
What's best about the shore is the finishes are surprisingly good while at the price point of the shabby 360 project.
wwmiv
Jan 15, 2012, 3:04 AM
What's best about the shore is the finishes are surprisingly good while at the price point of the shabby 360 project.
I wouldn't call 360 shabby...
TXAlex
Jan 15, 2012, 5:55 AM
I wouldn't call 360 shabby...
IMO the finishes could be better and the carpet in the hallways makes me think of Johnny Depp playing HS Thompson. I suppose I should have said tacky.
It's details like mortise lock-sets ($500 - 800 each) that many may not notice but are on every entry door in the Shore. Material choices I think were a step up. The plate height and expansive glass is great in the 360 but it would have been nice if some of the kind of detail and quality workmanship that was put in to the 360 club house was also put into the units.
ahealy
Jan 15, 2012, 6:21 AM
IMO the finishes could be better and the carpet in the hallways makes me think of Johnny Depp playing HS Thompson. I suppose I should have said tacky.
It's details like mortise lock-sets ($500 - 800 each) that many may not notice but are on every entry door in the Shore. Material choices I think were a step up. The plate height and expansive glass is great in the 360 but it would have been nice if some of the kind of detail and quality workmanship that was put in to the 360 club house was also put into the units.
My carpet is the only thing I needed to change. The hallway carpet is pretty ugly, but I don't live in the hall. Do you live in my building?
KevinFromTexas
Jan 15, 2012, 8:50 PM
A 250 foot observation tower. Sweet. The control tower at ABIA is 227 feet, so it'll stand out well in that area.
Downtown_Austin
Jan 16, 2012, 2:40 AM
It's details like mortise lock-sets ($500 - 800 each) that many may not notice but are on every entry door in the Shore. Material choices I think were a step up. The plate height and expansive glass is great in the 360 but it would have been nice if some of the kind of detail and quality workmanship that was put in to the 360 club house was also put into the units.
THIS! So much truth.
ahealy
Jan 16, 2012, 8:23 AM
New streets in downtown Austin? Believe it
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/new-streets-in-downtown-austin-believe-it-2102792.html?cxtype=rss_ece_frontpage
MichaelB
Jan 18, 2012, 5:48 PM
constant activity on the former "la Vista on Lavaca" site. It is to become a Hampton Inn/Suites. Thought I wish it were a higher end brand, it will be good to have "Intel ll" finally gone!
Jdawgboy
Jan 18, 2012, 8:25 PM
Things are really starting to pick up! It wont be long before we should plan another forum meet. Possibly expanding from Downtown to surrounding areas like West Campus.
Mikey711MN
Jan 19, 2012, 1:48 AM
constant activity on the former "la Vista on Lavaca" site. It is to become a Hampton Inn/Suites.
There's a pretty nice rendering from the Austin Business Journal article (http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/blog/real-estate/2012/01/another-downtown-hotel-on-the-way.html).
That should be a nice alternative for UT visitors and north downtown / capitol area business travelers.
mars-man
Jan 19, 2012, 8:32 PM
constant activity on the former "la Vista on Lavaca" site. It is to become a Hampton Inn/Suites. Thought I wish it were a higher end brand, it will be good to have "Intel ll" finally gone!
For sure! Even a Standing Hampton is better than La Vista of Graffiti. Not to mention the once-proposed Fondren of Sorrow.
And that corner of downtown/campus needed another hotel besides the pricey AT&T Conference Center. Be prepared for a sea of orange outside your door on game weekends...
MichaelB
Jan 19, 2012, 8:38 PM
For sure! Even a Standing Hampton is better than La Vista of Graffiti. Not to mention the once-proposed Fondren of Sorrow.
And that corner of downtown/campus needed another hotel besides the pricey AT&T Conference Center. Be prepared for a sea of orange outside your door on game weekends...
Yes, I am glad to have the actvity in the area. I hope they bring a restaurant or coffee place. But there is no indication.
And as for the sea of orange. We already have it and I kinda like it. Only the door men have to endure the constant "but I just want to use the bathroom".... ha! They think it's a hotel. I say let um, charge um and lets have a party!
BevoLJ
Jan 19, 2012, 8:46 PM
La Vista of Graffiti. Not to mention the once-proposed Fondren of Sorrow.:haha:
as for the sea of orange... "but I just want to use the bathroom" ... I say let um, charge umWell that is just mean.
:(
lol
Hill Country
Jan 19, 2012, 10:35 PM
Austin doesn't have enough urban grit when compared to our rust belt brethren. We have now lost our lone (as far as I have noticed) abandoned downtown "building."
BevoLJ
Jan 25, 2012, 10:32 AM
21 firms offer ideas for planned civil courthouse downtown (http://www.statesman.com/news/local/21-firms-offer-ideas-for-planned-civil-courthouse-2123503.html?cxtype=rss_local)
By Juan Castillo
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Updated: 11:05 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2012
Published: 8:44 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2012
The idea of a public-private partnership to build a planned civil courthouse in downtown Austin generated interest from 21 developers, including some outside the U.S., an analyst told Travis County commissioners Tuesday.
Mark Gibson, a principal with the firm Ernst & Young, said developers who responded to a county request for information indicated a willingness to complete the courthouse project using methods ranging from a standard design bid, in which the county maintains all control and risk, to one in which most risks are transferred to the developer, including long-term maintenance and operations.
"You had 21 respondents showing that level of interest and flexibility. That's very good," Gibson said.
...
Gibson said Ernst & Young is gathering public feedback for its study. A meeting was held this month, and another is scheduled for 5:30 p.m. Feb. 1 in the Commissioners Court meeting room.
...
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/21-firms-offer-ideas-for-planned-civil-courthouse-2123503.html?cxtype=rss_local
ahealy
Jan 25, 2012, 10:44 AM
21 firms offer ideas for planned civil courthouse downtown (http://www.statesman.com/news/local/21-firms-offer-ideas-for-planned-civil-courthouse-2123503.html?cxtype=rss_local)
By Juan Castillo
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Updated: 11:05 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2012
Published: 8:44 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2012
"It will be possible to construct a building with 1.9 million square feet on the site — that would be the largest single building west of the Mississippi"
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee.
wwmiv
Jan 25, 2012, 11:01 AM
"It will be possible to construct a building with 1.9 million square feet on the site — that would be the largest single building west of the Mississippi"
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee.
That wouldn't even be in the top 20 in the U.S., let alone the largest west of the Mississippi. Perhaps he means largest publicly owned building? I have no idea.
migol24
Jan 25, 2012, 6:26 PM
That wouldn't even be in the top 20 in the U.S., let alone the largest west of the Mississippi. Perhaps he means largest publicly owned building? I have no idea.
what is the largest bldg west of mississippi i wonder?
edit: i just found out on wikipedia... not sure if its the largest but the US Bank Tower in LA is the tallest building west of the mississippi and it is 1.3 million sq ft.
and the Devon Tower in Oklahoma City which is under construction will be 1.8 million sq ft. It will stand at 850 ft tall.
Jdawgboy
Jan 25, 2012, 7:09 PM
If they are going to follow the guidelines of the Downtown Austin Plan, then they will need to build up, I just don't see them building a spread out blob of a building. I hope we see a huge tower there.
East7thStreet
Jan 26, 2012, 12:43 AM
There are 10-15 buildings in Las Vegas alone that are more than 1.9 million square feet. I can't believe we payed someone 465k as a consultant who doesn't seem to be taking the job very seriously.
ahealy
Jan 26, 2012, 5:21 AM
There are 10-15 buildings in Las Vegas alone that are more than 1.9 million square feet. I can't believe we payed someone 465k as a consultant who doesn't seem to be taking the job very seriously.
Good point.
ahealy
Jan 28, 2012, 6:28 AM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb250/austintexs/photo-49.jpg
Took this shot of the Federal Courthouse....The black area was full of water. Does anyone know if this is a giant fountain for the structure? If so, I am SOOOO STOKED :P
BevoLJ
Jan 28, 2012, 7:39 AM
Wouldn't high winds pose a problem for the people under it?
TXAlex
Jan 28, 2012, 7:51 PM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb250/austintexs/photo-49.jpg
Took this shot of the Federal Courthouse....The black area was full of water. Does anyone know if this is a giant fountain for the structure? If so, I am SOOOO STOKED :P
It's a swimming pool for justice.
KevinFromTexas
Jan 28, 2012, 9:03 PM
Yeah, they need to do some fact checking on that claim. There are bigger buildings than that in Texas. And even if they're only talking about skyscrapers, the largest skyscraper I know of in Texas is the Wells Fargo Plaza in Houston which is 2.2 million square feet and is 992 feet tall with 71 floors.
That wouldn't even be in the top 20 in the U.S., let alone the largest west of the Mississippi. Perhaps he means largest publicly owned building? I have no idea.
Not sure about that either. Maybe? I know that the Harris County Civil Courthouse in Houston is the largest civil courthouse in the country in terms of square feet, it's well over a million. I forget the number.
BevoLJ
Jan 28, 2012, 9:54 PM
I think that is the new public witch dunking pool. It is a part of Perry's new program to help cleanse the city of gays and non-Christians.
MichaelB
Jan 28, 2012, 10:13 PM
I think that is the new public witch dunking pool. It is a part of Perry's new program to help cleanse the city of gays and non-Christians.
.... oh no you didnt' !!!! :haha:
ahealy
Jan 28, 2012, 11:48 PM
I think that is the new public witch dunking pool. It is a part of Perry's new program to help cleanse the city of gays and non-Christians.
lollllll. I'll dive in from my balcony! But really, what the hell is it??
hookem
Jan 29, 2012, 12:38 AM
lollllll. I'll dive in from my balcony! But really, what the hell is it??
Maybe it has to do with the rainwater collection system:
From: http://www.statesman.com/news/local/federal-courthouse-on-schedule-officials-say-721857.html
The design includes features that make use of natural light as well as a rainwater collection system for irrigation and a high-efficiency air-conditioning unit.
Doesn't mention the rainwater collection here, but there are many good pics and none show a fountain. One looks like it shows some trees in that area:
http://msmearch.com/type/government-and-civic/united-states-courthouse-austin-texas
TXAlex
Jan 29, 2012, 5:49 AM
Looking at the first overhead it looks like a planter. Too, there are 2 staircases to some kind of raised garden missing in actual the construction.
http://msmearch.com/type/government-and-civic/united-states-courthouse-austin-texas
Jdawgboy
Jan 29, 2012, 7:14 PM
You may be right, the way the pipes are place could be where the sprinkler heads are located. It could be designed to hold rainwater and then when we have dry spells they can use the water to keep the landscaping in good condition.
MichaelB
Jan 29, 2012, 10:03 PM
Maybe it has to do with the rainwater collection system:
From: http://www.statesman.com/news/local/federal-courthouse-on-schedule-officials-say-721857.html
Doesn't mention the rainwater collection here, but there are many good pics and none show a fountain. One looks like it shows some trees in that area:
http://msmearch.com/type/government-and-civic/united-states-courthouse-austin-texas
I banking on elevated garden spaces.
ahealy
Jan 29, 2012, 10:41 PM
I banking on elevated garden spaces.
Hopefully it's pretty and lush for all those white-collar crimes.
MichaelB
Jan 30, 2012, 2:01 AM
:haha:Hopefully it's pretty and lush for all those white-collar crimes.
ahealy
Jan 30, 2012, 9:11 PM
Took this today at Seaholm. It appears they're removing the metal shell on the base. Could this be the beginning of light construction?http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb250/austintexs/WALL.jpg
LoneStarMike
Feb 1, 2012, 2:24 AM
Developers to break ground on first hotel at Mueller (http://www.statesman.com/business/developers-to-break-ground-on-first-hotel-at-2126244.html)
Shonda Novak
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Wednesday, Jan. 25, 2012
Developers are set to break ground on a 112-room Marriott next month at Mueller, the first hotel for the mixed-use development northeast of downtown.
The four-story Residence Inn by Marriott will be built at the southwest corner of Lancaster Drive and 51st street, an ideal location to serve the nearby Dell Children's Medical Center of Central Texas at Mueller, said Greg Weaver, executive vice president of Catellus Development Corp., the master developer of Mueller. The hospital is adding a third wing as it grows even faster than originally planned, Weaver said.
JoninATX
Feb 1, 2012, 5:00 AM
New arts center on tap at Mueller
http://media2.kxan.com//photo/2012/01/29/PACPLANtwo2_20120129210830_640_480.JPG
http://media2.kxan.com//photo/2012/01/29/PACplan_20120129210449_640_480.JPG
Published : Sunday, 29 Jan 2012, 9:18 PM CST
AUSTIN (KXAN) - The design plans for a $26.6 million Performing Arts Center will be approved by Austin Independent School District trustees at Monday night's school board meeting.
A 3-acre site for the complex, at the intersection of Mueller Boulevard and East 51st Street, was purchased by Austin ISD last April. That followed the hiring of Pfluger Associates Architects to design the PAC in 2009.
The earliest stages of construction will begin on the site in June 2012. Construction should be completed, according to the school district, in the Fall of 2013.
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/austin/new-arts-center-on-tap-at-mueller
JoninATX
Feb 1, 2012, 5:03 AM
With the new 4 story hotel, the new arts center, and the new "green" heb, 51st street is going to be hot with all that construction going on this year.
austlar1
Feb 1, 2012, 8:20 PM
I missed out on any news about a new "green" HEB. Where is this going to be built? It seems so close to the existing HEB in Hancock Center, so I guess they are going after a whole new demographic.
BevoLJ
Feb 2, 2012, 3:04 AM
I missed out on any news about a new "green" HEB. Where is this going to be built? It seems so close to the existing HEB in Hancock Center, so I guess they are going after a whole new demographic.It is going to be on 51st street. I think at the intersection of Berkman which will eventually extend down to Manor.
Also, I just saw some cool pictures from the DAB facebook page. They are for the YMCA downtown.
Austin Aquatic Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/runaworkshop/sets/72157628858665411/)
The building form responds to existing patterns of circulation found in early site analysis. The building location was defined by these early studies, where the pools orientation were established, and buffer zones were identified, along with circulation nodes, and corridor views.
The design expresses a Euclidean geometry resting beneath an organic structure emerging from the landscape, creating an architecture of nature rather than in nature. The plan is transparent allowing light, sound, breeze and pedestrians to pass through organically. This undulating structure represents the concept of “connection”; the design becomes a connector merging architecture with landscape, serving as a transition to the city, and linking the Lake and trails with the Austin Aquatic Center. The structure rises gently from the landscape, with openness and permeability that encourages participation from all. It functions as both a living bridge and unifying datum, bending down to the earth to invite all manner of visitors to experience the Austin Aquatic Center and Lady Bird Lake in a unique way. Visitors can overlook the pools during competition meets, watch shows and concerts hosted at the plaza, gather to enjoy fireworks at the lake, or simply gaze at the urban skyline.
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wwmiv
Feb 2, 2012, 3:39 AM
I can't tell exactly where that is. Any guesses?
Hill Country
Feb 2, 2012, 3:50 AM
The 2nd picture gives a good idea of the location. I had no idea this was in the works
wwmiv
Feb 2, 2012, 3:54 AM
The 2nd picture gives a good idea of the location. I had no idea this was in the works
Oh shit! That's the river at the bottom of that picture isn't it? So the site is Lamar and Cesar Chavez! Wow. It's a very nice project, but what would happen to the Town Lake Animal Shelter?
BevoLJ
Feb 2, 2012, 4:18 AM
The animal shelter shut down in November. Or they didn't shut down, they just moved. The one downtown shut down. All the little critters have since wondered over to their new home near 183 and Airport in East Austin. The old shelter was like 60 years old and Austin has just outgrown it. The new one is a lot bigger and is really REALLY nice. :)
Edit: Anyway, the pools are for where there are two baseball fields currently along Cesar Chavez and Lamar on Town Lake.
MichaelB
Feb 2, 2012, 5:20 AM
The animal shelter shut down in November. Or they didn't shut down, they just moved. The one downtown shut down. All the little critters have since wondered over to their new home near 183 and Airport in East Austin. The old shelter was like 60 years old and Austin has just outgrown it. The new one is a lot bigger and is really REALLY nice. :)
Edit: Anyway, the pools are for where there are two baseball fields currently along Cesar Chavez and Lamar on Town Lake.
Anyone know if the pool is actually happening or was this a proposal.
BTW..... another animal shelter is now in the old shelter!
ahealy
Feb 2, 2012, 6:42 AM
Anyone know if the pool is actually happening or was this a proposal.
BTW..... another animal shelter is now in the old shelter!
I've only heard things, no articles.....wait...thinking...perhaps infactdaily??? not sure...I HOPE it is happening. This is fucking RADICAL!!!!!!! They even have Herman Miller chairs :yes::yes::yes:
austin242
Feb 2, 2012, 8:26 AM
Wow this is shockingly cool. :banana: I can't wait to see this happen. IF this does get finished. Yay Score for Austin
cvillehorn
Feb 2, 2012, 9:14 AM
Checked out a few of the architects' pages from team on the aquatic center; All I gotta say is WOW. They got a lot going on in Austin. There's really too much to post (that's the way we like it!). I thew in as many as I could for love. Give the rest a look when you get the chance; its about to get EPIC.
http://www.bigreddog.com/
http://studiodwg.com/
http://www.waterdesigninc.com/
http://mjstructures.com/
From Studio DWG:
South Lamar Plaza
http://studiodwg.com/wp-content/gallery/south-lamar-mixed-use/south-lamar-mixed-use-1.jpg
http://studiodwg.com/wp-content/gallery/south-lamar-mixed-use/south-lamar-mixed-use.jpg
816 Congress Green Roof Transformation
http://studiodwg.com/wp-content/gallery/816-congress/816-congress-1.jpg
http://studiodwg.com/wp-content/gallery/816-congress/816-congress.jpg
Covered Bridge Village
http://studiodwg.com/wp-content/gallery/covered-bridges/home_cbv-002.jpg
Big Red Dog Engineering (excellent name):
More South Lamar Plaza
http://www.bigreddog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/South-Lamar-Rendering-Main-Drive1.jpg
http://www.bigreddog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/South-Lamar-Rendering-Treadwell1.jpg
The Genesee, a Mixed Use Project- South 1st Street
http://www.bigreddog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Genesee-VMU-Rendering-A_web.jpg
http://www.bigreddog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Genesee-VMU-Rendering-B_web.jpg
Lakeshore Apartments-Lady Bird Lake
http://www.bigreddog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Lakeshore-Apartments.jpg
Austin PlayHouse Mueller (as aforementioned)
http://www.bigreddog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Austin-Playhouse-1.jpg
http://www.bigreddog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Austin-Playhouse-2.jpg
ARCHifan
Feb 2, 2012, 3:19 PM
I looked at the Flickr link and the architect who designed the Austin Aquatic Center is "Runa Workshop", they did Caffe Medici at the Austonian! I love that place!...they are doing amazing work in Austin. I looked at their website...check it out
www.runaworkshop.com
www.facebook.com/runaworkshop
Great design Runa!!!
ARCHifan
Feb 2, 2012, 3:30 PM
I looked at the Flickr link and the architect who designed the Austin Aquatic Center is "Runa Workshop", they did Caffe Medici at the Austonian! I love that place!...they are doing amazing work in Austin. I looked at their website...check it out
www.runaworkshop.com
www.facebook.com/runaworkshop
Great design Runa!!!
More information...this is so cool! I hope this gets build!
http://www.gayinaustintexas.com/texas-aquatic-center-ymca-cesar-chavez/
wwmiv
Feb 2, 2012, 5:26 PM
Excuse my excitement, but Austin is already going through another boom. We could see a whole new group of towers in the top 10 over the next 10 years.
ahealy
Feb 2, 2012, 6:49 PM
more information...this is so cool! I hope this gets build!
http://www.gayinaustintexas.com/texas-aquatic-center-ymca-cesar-chavez/
i want. Now.
MichaelB
Feb 2, 2012, 7:28 PM
i want. Now.
There is no icon for tantrum I guess. ;)
maybe
:whip:
Hill Country
Feb 2, 2012, 8:35 PM
There is no icon for tantrum I guess. ;)
maybe
:whip:
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/th_Smiley-tantrum.gif
BevoLJ
Feb 2, 2012, 8:36 PM
There is no icon for tantrum I guess. ;)
maybe
:whip::tantrum: =)
:tantrum:
ahealy
Feb 3, 2012, 12:21 AM
There is no icon for tantrum I guess. ;)
maybe
:whip:
:whip: = GOOD FUN :tantrum: = ME WAITING IMPATIENTLY FOR PROJECTS TO START
Speaking of, Gables II is officially moving dirt as of today.
Jdawgboy
Feb 3, 2012, 12:23 AM
Woohoo!!!:banana:
ahealy
Feb 3, 2012, 1:02 AM
:previous: Yeah, I think it's safe to say we're on the path to another boom.
migol24
Feb 3, 2012, 5:41 AM
:whip: = GOOD FUN :tantrum: = ME WAITING IMPATIENTLY FOR PROJECTS TO START
Speaking of, Gables II is officially moving dirt as of today.
jesus, you animal! there are 3 projects already underway and you're still anxious! haha i can't wait to go back and see the big changes.
BevoLJ
Feb 3, 2012, 9:05 AM
Oh, and speaking of pools... =)
They are doing work at Deep Eddy. Apparently after 100 years it had a few leaks. lol.
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austintexas
Feb 3, 2012, 2:56 PM
More information...this is so cool! I hope this gets build!
http://www.gayinaustintexas.com/texas-aquatic-center-ymca-cesar-chavez/
I think the scheme and master plan are great but I have a real problem with the design aesthetic. Austin prides itself on being local and having its own voice while being rooted in the Texas vernacular. Many of Runas "trendy" architectural moves can be seen across the global by architects like Zaha and Michael Maltzan. The park doesn't need the curves at every surface or techno graphic skylights and openings. This is Austin not Dubai or Berlin.
As an Austinite for over 20 years I hate to see our new buildings taking on an international style. The last thing anyone wants is to turn our city into Dallas. Lets keep our strong local voice strong.
MichaelB
Feb 3, 2012, 4:48 PM
I think the scheme and master plan are great but I have a real problem with the design aesthetic. Austin prides itself on being local and having its own voice while being rooted in the Texas vernacular. Many of Runas "trendy" architectural moves can be seen across the global by architects like Zaha and Michael Maltzan. The park doesn't need the curves at every surface or techno graphic skylights and openings. This is Austin not Dubai or Berlin.
As an Austinite for over 20 years I hate to see our new buildings taking on an international style. The last thing anyone wants is to turn our city into Dallas. Lets keep our strong local voice strong.
Completely respect your point of view, but I am affraid I disagee. I like it. . Do i think it's ground breaking: no. It is derivitive? Perhpas a bit. But a style I like and I would like to see more of. I wish it went further.... but this seems like a good balance between style and cost. I simply see it as a breath of fresh air to our sometimes over "warm and fuzzy" point of view. Which , for me, has kept much of our architecture and bit dull. I welcome the variety. It has an exhuberance and movement to it that I find fun. For a town that prides itself on creativity.... I would like to see more in our architecture.
Result: It's a plus for me. (not that it's a compition.... just for perspective... resident for 25 years, )
East7thStreet
Feb 3, 2012, 7:37 PM
I think the scheme and master plan are great but I have a real problem with the design aesthetic. Austin prides itself on being local and having its own voice while being rooted in the Texas vernacular. Many of Runas "trendy" architectural moves can be seen across the global by architects like Zaha and Michael Maltzan. The park doesn't need the curves at every surface or techno graphic skylights and openings. This is Austin not Dubai or Berlin.
As an Austinite for over 20 years I hate to see our new buildings taking on an international style. The last thing anyone wants is to turn our city into Dallas. Lets keep our strong local voice strong.
As an Austinite for 35+ years I have to disagree. I love Austin and its people, but we have a history of horrible urban planning and architecture. Something new, sleek, and international would be welcome in my opinion. My only problem with the design is that there doesn't seem to be a bar ala the Clevelander in South Beach.:D
Jdawgboy
Feb 3, 2012, 9:42 PM
As somebody who was born and raised here I also have to disagree with austintexas. Fact is Austin is growing up and people need to understand that. Austin is becoming more of an international city and we can do that and still have a strong local voice. I love our skyline it is much nicer than it was 20 years ago. I would like to see more cutting edge urban designs with an international flair. This is not Austin of 20 years ago remember but we still can change and at the same time keep what makes Austin special and unique.
kingkirbythe....
Feb 3, 2012, 9:47 PM
As someone who has lived in Austin for my past three lives...:-/...I like the design.
migol24
Feb 3, 2012, 9:50 PM
you know, i'm cautiously siding with austintexas on this one in a way. I'm all for the development that's been going on in Austin, but when we're talking about what makes Austin uniquely special is that its about keeping it "local". Growth is good and always will be. And the development, I am all for it just as much. But it would be nice to maintain this "local" theme going.
I'm not saying I dislike that project... I actually do like it, but I can see where austintexas is coming from. God forbid that Austin ever converts its downtown into some touristy trap and you have nothing but Willie Nelson replicas entertaining the tourists and chain stores dominating the Austin downtown. That being said, I'm all for this development I just hope that in the long run Austin does a pretty good job at doing what its been doing best all the years of its existence.... keeping it local, which honestly I feel Austin is still doing a pretty good job of it. I just don't want Austin to be another Union Square like here in SF. That would really suck.
wwmiv
Feb 3, 2012, 10:30 PM
you know, i'm cautiously siding with austintexas on this one in a way. I'm all for the development that's been going on in Austin, but when we're talking about what makes Austin uniquely special is that its about keeping it "local". Growth is good and always will be. And the development, I am all for it just as much. But it would be nice to maintain this "local" theme going.
I'm not saying I dislike that project... I actually do like it, but I can see where austintexas is coming from. God forbid that Austin ever converts its downtown into some touristy trap and you have nothing but Willie Nelson replicas entertaining the tourists and chain stores dominating the Austin downtown. That being said, I'm all for this development I just hope that in the long run Austin does a pretty good job at doing what its been doing best all the years of its existence.... keeping it local, which honestly I feel Austin is still doing a pretty good job of it. I just don't want Austin to be another Union Square like here in SF. That would really suck.
Austin's downtown already is a tourist trap in a way, but it will never be dominated by tourists by the simple fact that we have a natural population base in the form of UT.
BevoLJ
Feb 3, 2012, 10:53 PM
Good point WW
Also the State Government is always going to be big downtown, as will the cowboy boot, straw hat wearing hippies of South Austin. Austin will always be its own flavor of Hill Country Texan that is both progressive while keeping the more romantic of the Texan/Cowboy qualities.
I can't see that ever changing. Sure North Austin is pretty much a LA suburb, but it has always kinda been like that. Downtown with UT, the Capitol, and South Austin is just to big of a DT to ever go full on eurosnob.
wwmiv
Feb 3, 2012, 10:56 PM
Good point WW
Also the State Government is always going to be big downtown, as will the cowboy boot, straw hat wearing hippies of South Austin. Austin will always be its own flavor of Hill Country Texan that is both progressive while keeping some of those romantic Texan/Cowboy qualities.
I can't see that ever changing. Sure North Austin is pretty much a LA suburb, but it has always kinda been like that. Downtown with UT, the Capitol, and South Austin is just to big of a DT to ever go full on eurosnob.
Let's change that a little bit: North Austin is a Silicone Valley suburb, while South Austin is an L.A. suburb. I really hate discussions where we talk about how unique Austin is, as if Austin is any different than most of the United States... ;)
migol24
Feb 4, 2012, 12:09 AM
Austin's downtown already is a tourist trap in a way, but it will never be dominated by tourists by the simple fact that we have a natural population base in the form of UT.
well, you do have a very good point there. i just really hope it doesn't become overbearing. i'd like for it to have a fair amount of local venues and shops as well as chain stores, but mostly local ones.
austin242
Feb 4, 2012, 1:05 PM
Most of South Austin is not a suburb Most of north austin is. Finished :haha:
South Austin really is just alot smaller and most of it closer to downtown. Basically what Im trying to say is North Austin is really bigger and therefore alot more of it is a suburb. :tup: South side for the win:banana:
Jdawgboy
Feb 4, 2012, 7:37 PM
Most of South Austin is not a suburb Most of north austin is. Finished :haha:
South Austin really is just alot smaller and most of it closer to downtown. Basically what Im trying to say is North Austin is really bigger and therefore alot more of it is a suburb. :tup: South side for the win:banana:
Agreed, South Austin feels like Austin, while north Austin could easily be anywhere U.S.A. That is just a fact and many people who visit the city that Ive known have noticed the difference between the northside and the southside.
wwmiv
Feb 4, 2012, 8:00 PM
Agreed, South Austin feels like Austin, while north Austin could easily be anywhere U.S.A. That is just a fact and many people who visit the city that Ive known have noticed the difference between the northside and the southside.
... Dude, all of it feels like "Everytown, U.S.A." Yes, there are differences, but the differences are not major.
migol24
Feb 4, 2012, 11:16 PM
... Dude, all of it feels like "Everytown, U.S.A." Yes, there are differences, but the differences are not major.
now that's just not entirely true. the vibe in south austin has just got a thing of its own. this is after all why people fall in love with austin.
i'd say once you hit passed ben white, then it starts to feel like anywhere in the usa... but to say that austin, let alone south austin, feels like any other town is a huge misconception.
ahealy
Feb 5, 2012, 1:35 AM
... Dude, all of it feels like "Everytown, U.S.A." Yes, there are differences, but the differences are not major.
yeah, dude....didn't you get the memo :haha:
Jdawgboy
Feb 5, 2012, 6:01 PM
Migol24 is right, the area between the river and 290/71 is what a lot of people think of when they think of Austin. You have iconic areas like SoCo, you have the South First area, the ever more funky South Lamar area. You have the best skyline views from the south since it is higher than Downtown. When see pics of the skyline, the majority are south looking north. North Central Austin also feels like Austin as well, so when I say northside I am talking about north of 183.
ATXboom
Feb 5, 2012, 6:14 PM
Austin is unique north of Oltorf, south of 45th, east of Mopac, west of 35. I could argue there is an east side pocket as well from Manor to the river about 10 blocks deep.
migol24
Feb 5, 2012, 6:41 PM
Austin is unique north of Oltorf, south of 45th, east of Mopac, west of 35. I could argue there is an east side pocket as well from Manor to the river about 10 blocks deep.
I just simply tell anyone who's never been to Austin that the cool areas of Austin, or what makes Austin Austin, is downtown and the immediate surrounding neighborhoods, with the exception of hyde park... and I think its about the easiest way to explain it.
DougRockstead
Feb 6, 2012, 4:08 AM
I gotta agree. As far as the "Keep Austin Weird" thing goes, and everyone's idea of what Austin is like. That exists south of the Capital, with the Exlcusion of the UT area... anywhere north or outside of that... feels like any other place in Texas, or even outside Texas. I have travelled the state and when people say there's no where like Austin, they are talking about South Austin and downtown.
ahealy
Feb 7, 2012, 5:59 AM
More details emerge on Austin Aquatic Center
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/aquatics-center-pitched-as-part-of-downtown-development-2155466.html
Guess who is against it on city council???!? :rolleyes:
East7thStreet
Feb 7, 2012, 7:19 PM
I don't know. I thought this Aquatic Center was going to be paid for by the YMCA and put on YMCA's land. If they are building on many acres of the City of Austin's valuable downtown land and asking for the taxpayer to give them 25+ million to build....... I think we could come up with something better. I wouldn't mind seeing this thing built at Shipe Park in Hyde Park with private dollars though.
ahealy
Feb 8, 2012, 4:55 PM
I don't know. I thought this Aquatic Center was going to be paid for by the YMCA and put on YMCA's land. If they are building on many acres of the City of Austin's valuable downtown land and asking for the taxpayer to give them 25+ million to build....... I think we could come up with something better. I wouldn't mind seeing this thing built at Shipe Park in Hyde Park with private dollars though.
But that's what is so interesting and awesome about this project. The central/accessible location to many sides of town. I do see what you're saying though, East7th. With zoning and proximity to Town Lake, I can't imagine something better for that location.
the Genral
Feb 9, 2012, 2:31 AM
Agreed, South Austin feels like Austin, while north Austin could easily be anywhere U.S.A. That is just a fact and many people who visit the city that Ive known have noticed the difference between the northside and the southside.
Two corridors north of dt that makes me feel like I'm in Austin, south of 183 on I35, and south of the triangle, either on Lamar or Guadelupe. I don't get to dt much anymore but when I do and hit those areas, I start to feel the Austin vibe. Its hard not to include East Riverside Dr. area west of Pleasant Valley.
ahealy
Feb 9, 2012, 10:47 PM
Seaholm District Construction
More removal of metal facade on Seaholm structure
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb250/austintexs/sea.jpg
Gables II Moving serious dirt
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb250/austintexs/build.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb250/austintexs/sea1.jpg
kingkirbythe....
Feb 10, 2012, 4:42 AM
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/council-oks-rainbow-hued-seaholm-wall-design-2164175.html
Council OKs rainbow-hued Seaholm wall design
By Jeanne Claire van Ryzin
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
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The Austin City Council voted unanimously Thursday to approve the schematic design for the $800,000 Seaholm Substation Wall Art , the city's most expensive public art project to date.
The approximately 1,000-foot-long wall will enclose an electrical substation on 3 acres of downtown Austin, the site of the decommissioned Seaholm Power Plant and Green Water Treatment Plant, which is pegged to be a mixed-use development of hotels, condominiums, apartments and a new central library.
I sure hope the materials used are replaceable in small sections, can be easily painted, or can beeasily cleaned, because this is going to be a big target for graffiti and taggers.
MichaelB
Feb 10, 2012, 6:36 AM
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/council-oks-rainbow-hued-seaholm-wall-design-2164175.html
Council OKs rainbow-hued Seaholm wall design
By Jeanne Claire van Ryzin
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
E-mail Print Share Larger Type
The Austin City Council voted unanimously Thursday to approve the schematic design for the $800,000 Seaholm Substation Wall Art , the city's most expensive public art project to date.
The approximately 1,000-foot-long wall will enclose an electrical substation on 3 acres of downtown Austin, the site of the decommissioned Seaholm Power Plant and Green Water Treatment Plant, which is pegged to be a mixed-use development of hotels, condominiums, apartments and a new central library.
I sure hope the materials used are replaceable in small sections, can be easily painted, or can beeasily cleaned, because this is going to be a big target for graffiti and taggers.
I flinched when I heard Rain-bow... but sounds that that is an inappropriate word to talk about an undulating light project ( sounds like what we see on top of buildings)
migol24
Feb 10, 2012, 9:26 AM
so i'm going to austin in a month... and i just bought myself a dslr. now i'm excited about taking some photos and probably film footage when i get to austin. i'll be there for a week. any photo ideas would be recommended and i'll be sure to post them here.
i took some photos around here in san francisco last night. although, my intent for buying the camera was to make a short movie that will perhaps catapult me into stardom! :tup:
there's the link to my flickr on my signature. hope you guys have time to check it out and please comment if you can. and i'm so excited to get to austin and take photos from areas i've been wanting to take pictures from.... i'm sooo soo soo stoked! :D see you guys soon!
BevoLJ
Feb 10, 2012, 4:53 PM
Great pictures of San Fran. San Fran at night always makes me think of Manhattan for some reason. I also liked the picture of the Verdi Club sign and the Transamerica with how that street framed it.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6845798011_0f57dea4d5.jpg
On what to suggest, I don't really know. Since I live mostly in Austin, it is pretty easy to see what I want. lol. But you will have a fresh eye and hopefully notice what many of us who see Austin every day may miss. Have fun!
Oh, go visit Ahealy at the Violet Crown on 2nd! That will probably be new to you. How long has it been since your last visit?
Edit: If you are coming next month, you coming for South By? If so, lots of people pictures! South By always has great people picture opportunities. =)
As an Austinite, I am going as far away from Austin as I can for that week and will be in London. lol. (Not that London is ever not busy and crazy) Have fun!
ahealy
Feb 10, 2012, 5:53 PM
I flinched when I heard Rain-bow... but sounds that that is an inappropriate word to talk about an undulating light project ( sounds like what we see on top of buildings)
I am QUITE excited about this my dear :D
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