[STR]

First post from my new computer. Maybe more tonight. I might have to upgrade my copy of 3DS, as my version doesn't work perfectly with Vista.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/17/tt60hy9.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt60hy9.jpg)

[rbowk]

oh sweet that looks really cool
great job

[STR]

Right now I'm just rendering, because 3DS7 isn't running well enough in Vista to make alterations to the model. The good news is that my new pc renders twice as fast as the old one. I'm thinking about upping some of the detail.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7617/tt60yq6.jpg

[Austin55]

oh-my-gosh:banaride:

[STR]

Calibrating my new PC, but I decided to post the test renders anyway.

Test render showing only the core and interior columns of Tower 2.
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/3751/t64at1.th.jpg (http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t64at1.jpg)

More test renders.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/214/t63ni6.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t63ni6.jpg) http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/702/t62cn8.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t62cn8.jpg) http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/351/t65xn8.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t65xn8.jpg)

[Aleks]

Wow, that's awesome. Is vista better than XP? (Dumb question to ask)

[STR]

Yes, for the most part, but it has quirks, but they don't outweight the benefits.

It certainly looks better than XP.

[Aleks]

Sorry to get off the subject but how does a Vista compare to a Mac?

[STR]

Well, Vista works with the programs I use. Mac does not. So Vista 1, Mac 0.

I did consider buying an apple machine, but only with the idea of installing windows over Mac OS X. But I'm not paying an extra $1,000 for that damn bitten apple logo.

[Aleks]

Oh, O.K. Thanks. Nice buildings by the way. So detailed.

[Peter]

The last image you posted is a real good view. I love the lobby level and you did it so well.

[rbowk]

wow that is brilliant

[Mocholate]

I wish i could have a copy of this model , i never got to see much of the towers

[ThatKidFromBoise]

If I had a time machine, and I could change only one thing about history, I'd make the events of 9/11 non-existant.

Anthony

[Mocholate]

maybe it would have been better to send a video camera back 2007 years :haha:

[STR]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9629/tt68ka7.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt68ka7.jpg)

[Peter]

I wish i could have a copy of this model , i never got to see much of the towers
I've seen them from a distance in real life when I was much younger on a drive from Florida to Connecticut (I-95), but I've never been to them. :(

[rbowk]

my grandad hasbeen to the top of them 4 times and was in new york at the top of the empire state building watching it all

[pe668]

Here's a nice NY skyline picture
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/NYC_Top_of_the_Rock_Pano.jpg

Keep on rendering STR

[STR]

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/169/tt71jk8.th.jpg (http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt71jk8.jpg) http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/4849/tt70iw6.th.jpg (http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt70iw6.jpg)

[Austin55]

jeeeez!! I just dont know how you do it STR:shrug:
how long has this taken up to now?!

[Peter]

Here's a nice NY skyline picture
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/NYC_Top_of_the_Rock_Pano.jpg

Keep on rendering STR
Great pano from GE building!!

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/169/tt71jk8.th.jpg (http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt71jk8.jpg) http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/4849/tt70iw6.th.jpg (http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt70iw6.jpg)


So your other WTC 3 was temporary and now your making a fully detailed one, or is it same one? Either way, I love it :)

[STR]

So your other WTC 3 was temporary and now your making a fully detailed one, or is it same one? Either way, I love it :)

The other 3WTC was the originalone, I'm keeping parts of the facade, but gutting the interior and modifying the heck out of the exterior.

[STR]

I'll post more renders in this post. Maybe I can finish the hotel tonight.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1101/tt72iv7.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt72iv7.jpg) [img=http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7611/tt73rw0.th.jpg] (http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt73rw0.jpg)

[Aleks]

There was a hotel in the WTC?

[Patrick]

^You dint know that?

[Dac150]

There was a hotel in the WTC?

Yes, when the WTC opened, Building 3 was the Vista Hotel. Eventually the Marriot Hotel Chain bought the Vista. The Hotel was then dubbed: The Marriot at the WTC.

That was one hotel I wished I could have stayed in. :(

[STR]

There was a hotel in the WTC?

3WTC was one of the largest hotels in the city at the time it was built, it was by far the largest downtown, even in 2001. It was 22 stories high with 800 rooms and a nominal occupancy of 1,000 guests. It was fully rented on 9/11 but was fully evacuated by the time of the collapses. Unfortunately the hotel lobby was chosen as the FDNY command center. Tower 2 basically sliced the building in half, while Tower 1's fall wasted everything else but a small stub on the southern part of the building. Today the large ramp leading into the construction area sits on the former site of the Marriott World Trade Center.

[Austin55]

I loved the entire complex. your model is amazing STR!!
look at the first pic on this thread,it clearly shows the poor marriot:(
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=136213

[Patrick]

The Photographer, Bill Biggart, was killed seconds later as the North Tower Collapsed, Camera Survived though.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/february2007/280207wtc3.jpg

[Patrick]

Some more pics.

A view from the hotel.
http://www.aarondhunt.com/nyc/images/Marriott_view_2.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/4vebuhw.jpg

Lets Not Forget, the Marriott Hotel was only 20 Years Old, a 4 Diamond Hotel. In 1993 The World Trade Center Bombing destroyed the parking garage under the tower. The Hotel had to be closed from February 1993 to November 1994. Of course, 9/11 did it in.

http://i10.tinypic.com/4uyrpmc.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/66agbo0.jpg

This was the original Promo Image for the hotel for most Hotel sites, now its really hard to find.
http://i13.tinypic.com/5ylozr7.jpg

[STR]

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2708/tt76on9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Austin55]

thats nice looking.Very good job.is the hotel finished?

[STR]

Nope. Not by a long shot.

[STR]

Some color ans setting tests
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7941/t01gf5.jpg http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5316/t02lx1.jpg http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6493/t03yo9.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/1192/t04gq8.jpg http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4356/t05pj1.jpg http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/331/t07ma0.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9369/tt77si1.jpg

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7261/tt78wz3.jpg

[Dac150]

What the hell happened? STR your models are excellent, but I cannot look at them without questioning what happened to the real ones.

[STR]

What happened is exactly what everyone thinks happens. There are side questions, like whether the substandard level of fireproofing, or the structural design itself, had an impact. Don't let your head be filled with ignorant bullshit. The people who peddle that tripe do a disservice to themselves and others.

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5679/tt80by1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3743/tt81ds6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3853/tt82gj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Patrick]

HOLY FREAKIN shiznutters. Okay those last two look incredibly realalistic. The only concern I have is I think the Twins are a little too reflective, I never recalled seeing reflections on them.

[STR]

The towers were covered in two materials. 99.9% of the facade was anodized aluminum, which is reflective, but the reflections blur rapidly as you move away from it. As a shortcut, I just turn the reflection almost down to zero. Saves loads of time during renders. The machinery bands, and the lobby was covered in stainless steel, polished to a mirror finish. I'm not happy how that renders, but I'll mess with it later.

[bugsy]

Hey STR, is there any chance that you will ever release the 3ds file ?

[STR]

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4422/tt84qp8.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9461/tt85kr0.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5431/tt86sj3.jpg

[Patrick]

Oh LAWD.

[STR]

Fun 7WTC fact: Tower 7 was technically a "tenant addition" legally no different than if a leaseholder wanted to add a partitioning wall or rewire a a cubicle. It was a steel tube design, not dissimilar from the Twin Towers in concept. The columns, unlike the towers, were extremely irregular, with widely varying spans. The entire office portion of over 40 floors was built over a preexisting ConEd substation, requiring a complex system of transfer columns and floors (not depicted below) to spread the load to foundations sunk into the ground.

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/916/tt87ct6.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2168/tt88hk1.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7513/tt79ve6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[STR]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/6758/tt89mc7.jpg

[STR]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2876/tt91aq4.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7351/tt92qt3.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/981/tt93wb3.jpg

[STR]

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9063/tt94ja4.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/539/tt95ft9.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1042/tt96eh3.jpg

[Bergenser]

Awsome work, again STR. :tup:

[STR]

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1691/tt97dc7.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8808/tt98sv4.jpg

[Dac150]

Excellent job STR. Words cannot express how much I miss that place. Thank you for doing this and keeping these buildings visually remebered for what they were.

[srr]

Breathtaking work. You are an architect?

[Amanita]

Shit...That is AWESOME!!!
What program did you model all this in?
If you're interested, an accurate WTC model such as this might do really well exported into 3D programs such as Poser and DAZ studio- Sites such as ww.contentparadise.com and renderosity.com are extremely popular places to sell one's handiwork. Goddess knows I would love to have my own accurate WTC for my poser characters to run around in.

[Daquan13]

Unfortunately for me, this version is too old to be any good (the plaza had been completely redone and several floors had been added to the towers), however the rest of you might find this interesting.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2562/page146rb.th.png (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page146rb.png)

This model is based on the above plans.
http://www2.arch.uiuc.edu/aamin/451/Chicago/S02/Hogan/WTC_PIC2_files/image004.jpg



This was also the ultimate design and rendering in early '62 just before the officials had decided to go with it after looking at over 100 desgn design plans.

No one had thought about putting the antenna atop the North Tower back then.

[[SP]Neo]

now this is really awesome!
the buildings look like photos with a really good camera...
are you going to model the world trade center too?
that would be realy cool because i didn't find any good models of the new wtc yet.

[Austin55]

he already made the New one. There are photos scattered around here,but there's a thread on wired New York or sumthin.

[STR]

^Yeah, WiredNY doesn't pare down threads as often as SSP and SSC does. The NWTC vanished from here a while ago. None of the photos are lost, mind you, I ponied up a few bucks years ago for a permanent imageshack account. They're still better than flickr.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7363/703.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=703.jpg) http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4244/702.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=702.jpg) http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2858/232wq2.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=232wq2.jpg) http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/962/231yw3.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=231yw3.jpg) http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/954/230fi2.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=230fi2.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2609/629.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=629.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6660/634.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=634.jpg)

[[SP]Neo]

really really really nice^^ thx for reposting them!

[Kamatzu]

These renderings are amazing... Absolutely beautiful job.


(A little off-topc: Does anyone know why there is no thread dedicated to the original buildings of the World Trade Center under any of the other categories? Just curious. o.O)

[Lexy]

STR, if you haven't already got a job in the "digital land" industry, you need to. You are an increadible talent my man!

[STR]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4310/test2kr9.jpg

[Dac150]

Nice to see you're posting these again. Are you still planning on building the WFC?

[DecoJim]

The detail in your virtual WTC is quite impressive. The simulated sunlight and shadows really bring them to life. I like the interior views of the lobby with the ray tracing or whatever technology your software uses.

[jsr]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2876/tt91aq4.jpg


Are there any good photographs out there that clearly show the layout of the north-side lower levels of WTC 7?

Some of the photos taken on 9/11 seem to show that the base of the building sticks out a bit toward the north from the main tower on the west side but not on the east.

[STR]

Nice to see you're posting these again. Are you still planning on building the WFC?

I'm not really doing that much. I got a request via PM on wirednewyork for a shot like that, including the high resolution. I figured it was interesting enough to post. I'd have to finish the WTC proper before I could go to the surroundings. The first thing I'd do wouldn't be the WFC, but Deutsche Bank, as this model is a time capsule and that which no longer exists has highest priority.

The detail in your virtual WTC is quite impressive. The simulated sunlight and shadows really bring them to life. I like the interior views of the lobby with the ray tracing or whatever technology your software uses.

Yeah, it's ray tracing. No other way to make it look that good without really cheating.

Are there any good photographs out there that clearly show the layout of the north-side lower levels of WTC 7?

Some of the photos taken on 9/11 seem to show that the base of the building sticks out a bit toward the north from the main tower on the west side but not on the east.

I've got a few photos. There was a two lane truck ramp down into the main WTC complex on the northeast corner of 7WTC, the rest of the north face was taken up by the original ConEd substation, which butted out some 20 feet further than the tower.

[twintowersII-2011]

i love the twin towers the model you made is the best i fount it looks so real

[shakira]

First Name :World Trade
Middle Name :Twin Towers
Surname :Center
Born :1st January 1973
Passed Away :11th September 2001
Age :28 years of age
Occupation :Serving New York City.
Cause of Death :Terrorist Attack.
Military Service :None.
Nickname :Twin Towers.:jester:
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[JMO_0121]

First Name :World Trade
Middle Name :Twin Towers
Surname :Center
Born :1st January 1973
Passed Away :11th September 2001
Age :28 years of age
Occupation :Serving New York City.
Cause of Death :Terrorist Attack.
Military Service :None.
Nickname :Twin Towers.:jester:
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Your not my any means the REAL shakira are you? lol, with that name, i you could make big bucks!!??:jester:

[frank66101]

I build /reconstruct the ground floor lobby of the world trade center (New York, before 9/11). if you have images or drawings from this could you send these to frank_awe@hotmail.com
thanks, frank

[Kamatzu]

If we someday utilize virtual reality technology that plugs into our brains and allows us to visit places far away, I hope this model will be included. Keep up the good work, STR! Future virtual-tourists demand it! =P

[Skyscraper100]

wow great

[America 117]

First Name :World Trade
Middle Name :Twin Towers
Surname :Center
Born :1st January 1973
Passed Away :11th September 2001
Age :28 years of age
Occupation :Serving New York City.
Cause of Death :Terrorist Attack.
Military Service :None.
Nickname :Twin Towers.:jester:
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wow its sad, they only lived to see the age 28:( :( :(

[Puffmac]

Hi,

Firstly, I'd like to sincerely appologise for bumping this 2 year old post. However, I had previously downloaded this model from STR before, but that was many PCs and harddrives ago. I am interested in obtaining it, however, reading through the posts it appears STR is charging for the new version. It also occurs to me that STR is no longer active on this forum, otherwise I would have contacted him directly to request this. Does anyone have a copy for version one, the version he had previously released for free?

Thanks,
Andrew.

[1ajs]

had no idea str had even released his model

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Its a good idea. Really nice!