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robertaas
Jan 7, 2007, 6:31 PM
:tup: January 5th 2007 - Level 102 - Height 376.64m - Currently the 10th tallest highrise building in the world!That would be counting the spires and antennas. Counting the highest publicly reachable level (observation deck) the the list of higher buildings are much shorter:

CN Tower, Toronto, 447 metres
Sears Tower, Chicago, 412.7 m
International Finance Centre, Hong Kong, 401.9 m (not really sure now publicly availably this is)
Taipei 101, Taipei, 390.6 m

Lecom
Jan 7, 2007, 7:30 PM
Who keeps getting all those heli shots?

Indescribable
Jan 7, 2007, 8:15 PM
That sure is a growing beast! Its not even halfway there!

Indy

Bergenser
Jan 7, 2007, 8:35 PM
Great images, best to not re-posting them!
We don't want more great images to disapear... ;)

marcus
Jan 7, 2007, 8:44 PM
I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but on SSC, they say that some cracks have appeared in burj dubai.They said that this has slowed down constructrion on the wings.Also they said the last test of the facades has failed. has anyone else heard this? the person got it from http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com

Lecom
Jan 7, 2007, 10:35 PM
Taipei 101's design just doesn't scream "WTB" to me. Burj Dubai's narrowing pinnacle, reaching for the sky in a set of spiraling setbacks, is a great design to stand up to such a title.

Sky Tower
Jan 8, 2007, 4:05 AM
Woops!
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2571/godzillaim8.jpg

-GR2NY-
Jan 8, 2007, 3:38 PM
^ Did that really happen?? :???:

-GR2NY-
Jan 8, 2007, 3:46 PM
double

Dac150
Jan 8, 2007, 8:45 PM
no, but it looks pretty convincing.

vanhenrik
Jan 8, 2007, 9:34 PM
akording to http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/

Couple of problems arise, while Burj Dubai is slowly joining into the world's tallest Top 10 chart. According to one of the engineers, they have found thin cracks on the foundation of Burj Dubai. They are still examining the problem and the cause, but it has already slowed down the construction of the wings. They have coloured white the walls around lvl. 17 to be able to examine the cracks in depth. Sadly, that's not all, it seems that the last test of the facades failed as well, but they say it won't slow down the construction.

this is serius it will draw back the speed of the construktion predy mutch !

Construction Updates

January 8th 2007 - Level 103 - Height 380.84m - Currently the 10th tallest highrise building in the world!

SportsWorld
Jan 8, 2007, 10:55 PM
reminds me of the city in the new star wars

Dac150
Jan 8, 2007, 11:38 PM
This is unfortunate. I was never a really big fan of this project, but it would be disappointing to see something terrible to happen to this structure. I personally think they built this thing to where it is now too fast. A building of this height an magnitude, needs to take time. Maybe they rushed it a little. If that is the case, this could come back to bite them in the ass. Possibly take twice as longer to build. Just a thought.
-Dac150

CitySkyline
Jan 8, 2007, 11:49 PM
^ Did that really happen?? :???:

:haha: :haha:

I'm guessing your screen isn't big enough to show the entire image and you didn't scroll all the way to the right. Go back to the picture, scroll all the way to the right, and you'll see something at the right side of the picture that would've told you right away it was just a joke picture... :D

marcus
Jan 9, 2007, 3:24 AM
I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but on SSC, they say that some cracks have appeared in burj dubai.They said that this has slowed down constructrion on the wings.Also they said the last test of the facades has failed. has anyone else heard this? the person got it from http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com

why don't people care when I put this ? :(. Is it because I'm sort of new?

francely57
Jan 9, 2007, 3:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOjtGmW-gg4

Hey, look in the background... is that it?

DUBAI2015
Jan 9, 2007, 4:26 AM
:previous: That must be it and that Lamborghini Gallardo was cool :cool:

ComandanteCero
Jan 9, 2007, 5:03 AM
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2909/40674168tallestbuild3wj9.gif

is that an accurate depiction of the relative widths/bulks of these buildings? If it is, it just reinforces how massive this building is going to be.

Sky Tower
Jan 9, 2007, 6:33 AM
why don't people care when I put this ? :(. Is it because I'm sort of new?
Marcus my friend, nothing personal and certainly not because you're kinda new!
I'd give my left testicle to have a serious comment like this posted just once a day; but most of the guys in the UAE section of SSC are full of shit! Yesterday I saw 3 whole pages of absolute garbage which only come from the minds of a few desperate self advertisers, who feel as though the BD needs some more drama to increase personal website pagecounts!

1) There are NO cracks that will halt construction at BD.
2)The white paint mentioned in that thread now appears on every single mech level and is perfectly normal.
3) Just because it is from an associate of EMAAR reporting, does not mean they are deliberately not lieing to you, witholding information, or engineering consensus to the way of thinking they wish you and other media to do so too! This remember, is their job also! Many flaws in thier releases have been exposed and it is evident not to believe anything posted!
4)Yes you're right, the last fascade test failed (old news 2 month ago) and, (SSC forumers) the BD is not sinking, leaning or sufferering any subsidence that has been reported elsewhere and the towers constuction has not stopped, slowed, or sufferering from setbacks other than it's cladding which WILL commence in APRIL!!!

FACT! :tup:

westsider
Jan 9, 2007, 8:06 AM
^ Is that really for sure that the cladding will start in april? The timeline is so screwed up I've been taking everything with a grain of salt. Wonderful progress so far by the way, its only expected that a project like this will take some time.

BINARY SYSTEM
Jan 9, 2007, 11:50 AM
http://www.combat.infosplus.net/images/architecture/1/Burj_Dubai_3.jpg

Burj Dubai in Chicago... it looks stupid (antenna) in context with real office towers. I'm glad SOM chose not to let any American developers pick a design like this. Sorry BD lovers, its just my opinion.

AltinD
Jan 9, 2007, 1:22 PM
:previous: Burj Dubai is NOT office tower, but don't worry you'll might get (if everything goes well) your own 2,000' ANTENNA, just uglier. :yes:

BINARY SYSTEM
Jan 9, 2007, 1:25 PM
BD is mixed with residential... Chicago Spire--- if they put a SPIRE on it might look better, but not much...lol

JACKinBeantown
Jan 9, 2007, 1:43 PM
BD is mixed with residential... Chicago Spire--- if they put a SPIRE on it might look better, but not much...lol

I'm a big fan of both Burj Dubai and the Drill Bit.

Dallas Snob
Jan 9, 2007, 3:20 PM
http://www.combat.infosplus.net/images/architecture/1/Burj_Dubai_3.jpg

Burj Dubai in Chicago... it looks stupid (antenna) in context with real office towers. I'm glad SOM chose not to let any American developers pick a design like this. Sorry BD lovers, its just my opinion.



Intersting reply and choice of city to place the tower within. I assume that you are already aware that Frank Loyd Wright's "Mile High" that was proposed for Chicago looked VERY similar in design. I had to checle to myself when you placed the Burj in the Chicago cityscape. I was wondering if you really knew what you were doing or understood the history. Interesting no matter what.

I usually do not comment much in this thread and will leave the political infighting to seemingly much better informed forumers than I, but the reason I love buildings, construction and skyscrapers in general is for what they can achieve as well as the potenital for future achievements. Will this building remain the tallest? Doubtful. But who cares? So what that this country has chosen to build this landscape of supertalls with no one to fill them. If I had their money, I would want to do things "just for the sake" of doing them. To prove that they could be done. We all have this inate desire to leave our mark on this world. Some poeple have the means to leave a larger mark than others I suppose. But regardless, I celebrate the tower electric, and glory in the glow of its continual re-birth.

viva the skyscraper in all of its wonderful and glorious forms, regardless of where they find themselves on this earth.

2-TOWERS
Jan 9, 2007, 3:34 PM
put the dubai in manhattan where the freedom tower is , lets see what it would look like

AZheat
Jan 9, 2007, 4:17 PM
1) There are NO cracks that will halt construction at BD.

Sky Tower,
I have to admit that concerned me when I read the brief description on the Burj Dubai website about the cracks. Have you heard anything else about the cause or if it's really of any importance?

Pandemonious
Jan 9, 2007, 4:36 PM
doh

malec
Jan 9, 2007, 4:53 PM
First of all, the burj in that image is a stretched version of an old render so is nowhere near correct. It's also shown to be way skinnier there than in reality.
2ndly, this tower was not designed for Chicago so of course it will look out of place there. Same way that if you put sears tower where burj dubai is it'd also look out of place.

Sky Tower
Jan 9, 2007, 5:30 PM
Sky Tower,
I have to admit that concerned me when I read the brief description on the Burj Dubai website about the cracks. Have you heard anything else about the cause or if it's really of any importance?
The only thing I've heard regarding the delay of a few setback is the re-enforcing of certain sections to make possible the new height change.
At the moment it's just an unsubstantiated rumor from two SSC forumers that I hope is false. Even so, small settlement cracks can and do happen in buildings like this and do not necessarily mean problems, but of course need inspection.

brian_b
Jan 9, 2007, 7:04 PM
Intersting reply and choice of city to place the tower within. I assume that you are already aware that Frank Loyd Wright's "Mile High" that was proposed for Chicago looked VERY similar in design. I had to checle to myself when you placed the Burj in the Chicago cityscape. I was wondering if you really knew what you were doing or understood the history. Interesting no matter what.


Glad to see that people still remember the Mile High Illinois proposal and the similarities that Burj Dubai has. Now, ignore that the Mile High proposal would have been twice the height and remember that the Mile High would have been built in Lincoln Park in Chicago, not downtown in the Loop. So you can't just dismiss what the original poster was saying about it not fitting in in the Loop. What's more important is that buildings are designed to fit within a certain context. SOM would not have designed Burj Dubai to look like it does if the building were to go into downtown Chicago. They designed it to fit into Dubai.

On another note, cracks and structural issues happen from time to time in highrise construction. That doesn't mean they have to tear the thing down and start over. Engineers will study the problem and devise a solution. Once fixed, it should not pose any problems in the future. Don't worry about it. If these cracks exist, they'll get fixed and life will go on.

AltinD
Jan 9, 2007, 8:09 PM
09/01/2007


http://i12.tinypic.com/2e3zsl2.jpg


http://i14.tinypic.com/43o1s1s.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/2ef3hg9.jpg

marcus
Jan 9, 2007, 8:52 PM
good pictures :). And sky tower, were you talking to me or everyone? I'm really sorry if you were talking to me

BINARY SYSTEM
Jan 9, 2007, 11:51 PM
put the dubai in manhattan where the freedom tower is , lets see what it would look like

What if New York had the world's tallest building?

http://www.ogleearth.com/compareGE.jpg

http://www.ogleearth.com/viewnewGE.jpg

UGLY!!! LO

Its meant to be in the desert...anyway if it starts to crack maybe it will fall over or be attacked by a monster>>>

SKY TOWER
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2571/godzillaim8.jpg

malec
Jan 10, 2007, 12:38 AM
New large tower right next to the burj:

http://i3.tinypic.com/4ca9vuu.jpg

http://i1.tinypic.com/479ffaf.jpg


Location:

http://i10.tinypic.com/2ro2vjo.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1866/bigfatmapfl7.jpg

kenratboy
Jan 10, 2007, 2:53 AM
Thanks for the awesome pictures. This thing is really starting to look tall, and yet it has so far to go.

How many elevator transfers to get to the top floors? 3?

Sky Tower
Jan 10, 2007, 5:58 AM
Thanks for the updates Altin! Great pics.

good pictures :). And sky tower, were you talking to me or everyone? I'm really sorry if you were talking to me
I was replying to you, but reiterating to everyone. You have nothing to be sorry for, it was a very valid question, thank you. :tup:

westsider
Jan 10, 2007, 9:54 AM
New large tower right next to the burj:

http://i3.tinypic.com/4ca9vuu.jpg



I like it!

gixer
Jan 10, 2007, 7:36 PM
:previous:
Looks like a rocket...nice:tup:

Rise To The Top
Jan 10, 2007, 9:26 PM
Its funny cuz half these buildings will actually be used, Dubai isnt that big yet, yet they are acting like they are.

Lecom
Jan 10, 2007, 11:22 PM
I really like that new tower; I just wish it were built closer to BD. A cluster of really tall, really thin towers reaching for the sky, centered around BD, would look amazing.

mightygoose
Jan 10, 2007, 11:31 PM
man it looks really 1920's sci fi art deco minimalism... sorta their vision of the future... i love it.... it will look out fo place though, depends on colouration... probably look better in NY though for that one...

Lecom
Jan 11, 2007, 12:08 AM
It would be a decent design for the NYC indeed, even though its top seems to be a reference to the Middle Eastern mosque/dome tradition (which is a good thing, I hate when identity-free architecture replaces the former dominance of traditional local styles).

ATLksuGUY
Jan 11, 2007, 12:34 AM
Its funny cuz half these buildings will actually be used, Dubai isnt that big yet, yet they are acting like they are.
Yea, where the hell are all the tennants gonna come from for all this new office/condo space. rediculous

PuyoPiyo
Jan 11, 2007, 11:14 AM
What if New York had the world's tallest building?

http://www.ogleearth.com/compareGE.jpg

http://www.ogleearth.com/viewnewGE.jpg

UGLY!!! LO

Its meant to be in the desert...anyway if it starts to crack maybe it will fall over or be attacked by a monster>>>

SKY TOWER
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2571/godzillaim8.jpg

Agreed, Burj Dubai actually don't suit the New York. It's just because... It's so Arabic stylish tower! :haha:

vanhenrik
Jan 11, 2007, 1:40 PM
January 11th 2007 - Level 104 - Height 385.02m - Currently the 8th tallest highrise building in the world!


http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/729/3527220702bc897da5ebghgbr5.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/353413488_7dbcca2aa4_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/353412821_f255d9c6fd_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/353412962_730425ce12_o.jpg

Bergenser
Jan 11, 2007, 1:52 PM
Great updates, BD is pretty tall now!
I should wish to see more supertalls right next to the BD.

vanhenrik
Jan 11, 2007, 3:13 PM
I like it!


how tall wold it be ?http://i3.tinypic.com/4ca9vuu.jpg

malec
Jan 11, 2007, 6:22 PM
Well, it's an office tower, there are about 65 floors and the spire so will probably just scrape 1000 feet

gttx
Jan 12, 2007, 9:50 PM
Wow that last picture above really shows how massive the Index will be. That base is HUGE for a tower that will be over 1000' tall.

vanhenrik
Jan 13, 2007, 2:58 PM
whitch bulding has the most floors in the world ?
end how mutch floors is it in that bulding ?

vanhenrik
Jan 13, 2007, 2:58 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-59444571654131560&q=dubai


a video from burs dubai

Dac150
Jan 13, 2007, 3:53 PM
I think this thread is getting really off topic. Start another thread for that other building. Only Burj Dubai stuff please.

2-TOWERS
Jan 13, 2007, 4:24 PM
As A Twin Towers Lover ,this Is One Heck Of A Building, Right Now It Looks Like The Sears Tower Both In Setbacks And Height:)

Atlas
Jan 13, 2007, 5:34 PM
whitch bulding has the most floors in the world ?
end how mutch floors is it in that bulding ?
I believe that would be the Sears Tower with 108 but the WTC had 110.

Lecom
Jan 13, 2007, 8:06 PM
As A Twin Towers Lover ,this Is One Heck Of A Building, Right Now It Looks Like The Sears Tower Both In Setbacks And Height:)
Sears Tower flipped Vegas-style (see the three wing structure and less restricted form).

pianowizard
Jan 13, 2007, 9:12 PM
Is it just me or does this tower really look skinnier than what the drawings depict?

Someone asked about how many elevator transfers are required to get to the top floor. That got me to wonder what will happen if the elevators are out of service (due to power outage, fire, maintenance, etc.)! It would take hours for people on the top floors to get to the ground level through stairs! I personally wouldn't want to live or work higher than the 50th floor for that reason.

AltinD
Jan 13, 2007, 10:40 PM
^^ The elevators will NOT stop working in case of fire (some of them) instead they'll be integral part of the evacuation infrastructure.

2-TOWERS
Jan 14, 2007, 6:16 AM
Thats What I Miss About The Twin Towers,the Only Building,i Should Say Buildings With True 110 Floors From Top To Bottom, No Setbacks , Just Genuine 110 Floors ,very Easy Elevator Transfers, The Best In The World.
Dubai Very Nice And Very , Very Tall But Way To Skinny

Sky Tower
Jan 14, 2007, 8:44 PM
Thats What I Miss About The Twin Towers,the Only Building,i Should Say Buildings With True 110 Floors From Top To Bottom, No Setbacks , Just Genuine 110 Floors ,very Easy Elevator Transfers, The Best In The World.
Dubai Very Nice And Very , Very Tall But Way To Skinny

:previous: What part of the WTC elevator transfers were the best in the world? :shrug:

The BD will have the double decker elevators that will be the fastest in the world! They will also have elevators that will go directly up more that 3 times the single lift height of any of the WTC lifts.
The BD will have 70% less wasted elevator space by the BD's concentric shape and only 3 lift transfer floors making floor selection much, much quicker! :yes:

The Burj Dubai is 92.2m wide from podium end to end.
It has a footprint of 106,780sq/ft if you include the yet unfinished podium widths and a conrete central footplate that is 81,230sq/ft

The original WTC twin towers were 43,000sq/ft each, so the Burj is some 20% wider than both the original WTC buildings put together at it base up to Level 6 and still 92% of the width of both WTC building up to Level 19 and is still 64% wider than one of the Twin Towers at Level 43!

For those of you who constantly say how "Skinny" the building is, there are many of the buildings setbacks to catch up with the core which will more than double the width of it's current core height and girth inbetween.

Also, take into consideration that from some angles you can only see 2/3rds of the building's width, due to its 3 winged design

The area for each WTC building was 396,700 sq/m or 4,248,515sq/ft

The Burj Dubai will have a finished area of 368,590 sq/m or 3,967,469sq/ft just in it's central core alone and it's 148,650sq/m podium will give the Burj Dubai a total area of 517,240sq/m or 5,567,525sq/ft

2-TOWERS, the BD will be slightly wider at L110 than a single WTC was, sorry to burst your bubble!

Hmm, what a SKINNY building!!! :koko:

Dac150
Jan 14, 2007, 9:12 PM
That is the freakin beauty of the World Trade Center. Its is just damn plain and simple. It doesn't need double-decker elevators that go 1 million mph to be the best. The Burj Dubai is a facade with no backbone. Nothin can compare to the WTC. Sorry if I got as little off topic, but I can't just stand back and see the WTC be put down. Nothin personal skytower. I like your posts for the most part, but you can't dis the WTC.

kenratboy
Jan 14, 2007, 9:21 PM
I agree - the WTC was a brutal, honest, hard-working building. It was beautiful because it was so simple and so bold. The building was 'the business' - I have never been to NYC, but I think it did symbolize my perceived views of the city.

It seems very much like Sears Tower - it is so simple, yet so powerful and important. It doesn't need a pretty face, it just stands all by itself.

Sky Tower
Jan 14, 2007, 9:48 PM
:previous: My point was not to diss' the original WTC by any means.
I stood in awe on the precipice of that building on more than one occasion and a dear friend of my family was lost to it's attrocities.
I just think that the hardcore social gatherers for WTC fans here are far from impartial and do have a somewhat skewed allegiance to the memory of such a befallen icon.
I appologise if I have offended anyone here in my posts, I was more informing those who get the wrong perception of the Burj Dubai's statistics, and constant missconceptions as to how skinny the building is, rather than dissin' the attributes of a worldwidely adored American treasure.

Dac150
Jan 14, 2007, 10:08 PM
My first off condolences to your family for the loss of your friend skytower. The point I was trying to make is that when you want to inform forumers on statistics, that perfectly fine, but I do not see the need the bring the WTC into it. The WTC is a very sensitive subject, so from hear on in there should only be discussion on the Burj Dubai on this thread and nothing more. I speak in regards to everyone. Thank you.
-Dac150

vanhenrik
Jan 14, 2007, 11:22 PM
Construction Updates


January 14th 2007 - Level 105 - Height 389.26m - Currently the 8th tallest highrise building in the world!

onley 28 meeters to shurpass the old world trade center 417 meeters tall


http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6635/jpa5.jpg


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/338792080_47b28802bf_b.jpg

malec
Jan 14, 2007, 11:30 PM
We all know the podium is huge but how wide is the main tower which is what really defines its width visually?
Anyway this tower's height to width ratio could very well be 10 to 1. That does qualify as a skinny building to me.

justin00
Jan 14, 2007, 11:31 PM
This is taking this thread even further off topic and I apologize for contributing to that but I just feel like something must be said.

I feel like anyone and everyone has the right to voice their opinion about the architectural merit of ANY skyscraper, built, proposed, OR destroyed. I also believe that the mention of the WTC here on this thread was not completely uncalled for. This is a discussion about the Burj Dubai and that might also entail discussing the contrasts to other skyscrapers, WTC included.

Before anyone goes psycho on me, let me just say this. I am not a fan of the Burj Dubai at all. Furthermore, i LOVED the world trade center. I agree with many of you about the simple architecture and the boldness. However the level of immaturity many of you show when something negative about the architecture of the WTC is said is downright annoying.

Now, back to the Burj Dubai. As Sky Tower has shown us with the stats, the BD is as wide and even wider than a lot of skyscrapers we consider bulky. It is the height/width ratio that I do not care for. If it had more bulk to it to make up for how damn tall it is, it would look better.

Dac150
Jan 14, 2007, 11:41 PM
This is taking this thread even further off topic and I apologize for contributing to that but I just feel like something must be said.

I feel like anyone and everyone has the right to voice their opinion about the architectural merit of ANY skyscraper, built, proposed, OR destroyed. I also believe that the mention of the WTC here on this thread was not completely uncalled for. This is a discussion about the Burj Dubai and that might also entail discussing the contrasts to other skyscrapers, WTC included.

Before anyone goes psycho on me, let me just say this. I am not a fan of the Burj Dubai at all. Furthermore, i LOVED the world trade center. I agree with many of you about the simple architecture and the boldness. However the level of immaturity many of you show when something negative about the architecture of the WTC is said is downright annoying.

Now, back to the Burj Dubai. As Sky Tower has shown us with the stats, the BD is as wide and even wider than a lot of skyscrapers we consider bulky. It is the height/width ratio that I do not care for. If it had more bulk to it to make up for how damn tall it is, it would look better.

Do I agre with what you said: absolutley not, but i'm going to be a mature adult and let it pass for the good will of this thread. Please, any moderator, delete these off topic posts so we can diminish any future argument. Thank you.
-Dac150 (And no hard feelings with anyone, lets just enjoy this website). :tup:

malec
Jan 14, 2007, 11:44 PM
^^ If it was much wider it'd be completely overpowering both now and in the future when all the 1000 footers are finished, I prefer it the way it is now. But something has always bugged me. Why the hell didn't they put the offices at the bottom, the res part in the middle and hotel on top (or maybe some ultra-exclusive apartments on the top floors as well). That would have made much more sense and also would have a great deal more floor space (yes the tower isn't that skinny but the floor plate isn't large for its size due to its shape).

BTW SkyTower, when you say it's at 105 floors are you counting the 2 basement floors?

Dac150
Jan 14, 2007, 11:44 PM
And thank you vanhenrick for your images. I always enjoy and look foward to viewing them. Your contributions are greatly appreciated by myself, as I am sure others.
-Dac150

Dac150
Jan 14, 2007, 11:49 PM
Only two basement floors!!!!! The worlds tallest building I would think would have a vast underground complex of concourse, retail, parking, etc... very interesting. Especially in a city like Dubai, who likes to have everything built on such a grand stature. Anyone else think this is surprising?

vanhenrik
Jan 14, 2007, 11:53 PM
And thank you vanhenrick for your images. I always enjoy and look foward to viewing them. Your contributions are greatly appreciated by myself, as I am sure others.
-Dac150



thank you very mutch ! am duing as greitley as i can !

nezzybaby
Jan 14, 2007, 11:54 PM
^ with 160 floors above ground, why do they need more underground ones?

the underground floors wont count in the final height and at the end of the day this building is all about height

malec
Jan 14, 2007, 11:55 PM
I think there'll be parking underneath the entire plaza.

Dac150
Jan 15, 2007, 12:03 AM
The building is not only about height, but the question of: How big can you get? All I'm sayin is with a building of such size in a city of such growing grand scale, a large underground complex does not seem so un-realistic, nor un-needed. Hell, Dubai can construct a 4,000 foot statue of a coffe cup if they wanted too. Size in this city would call for a large underground complex. That's, all.
-Dac150

tuy
Jan 15, 2007, 5:22 AM
January 14th 2007 - Level 105 - Height 389.26m - Currently the 8th tallest highrise building in the world!

onley 28 meeters to shurpass the old world trade center 417 meeters tall


Why the comparison with the Word Trade Center at this point? Why single out WTC at this point? The only time that there should be a comparison is when WTC would have been next in line to be surpassed by Burj Dubai. You should be making the comparison with CITIC Plaza at 391m at this time.

2-TOWERS
Jan 15, 2007, 5:26 AM
take it easy skytower, boy are you a sore sport, anyway your building will have a joke of a observatory, look at my avatar ,that is a deck nothing will ever top that

Sky Tower
Jan 15, 2007, 2:24 PM
:previous: For once, I will refuse to bite! :tup:

Don't think we've seen this one before - Dec 30th
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/338805290_a50aa1d50a_b.jpg
yo ghurt

Dac150
Jan 15, 2007, 3:03 PM
take it easy skytower, boy are you a sore sport, anyway your building will have a joke of a observatory, look at my avatar ,that is a deck nothing will ever top that

So true, they don't make em like WTC anymore.

shikem
Jan 15, 2007, 10:02 PM
You guys need to get over this my building is or was better than yours argument. Sounds a lot like my dad can beat up yours etc. Show some maturity and act like adults for crying out loud.
Not everyone is going to agree on the architecural merits of any buildings.
The Burj Dubai has to have set backs or it would be far to heavy for its foundation and cast far too large a shaddow over its neighbors.
I loved the WTC and I love the BD as well. They are completely different in style and setting and each has its own merits.
Can't say the same for the Spire in Chi. town however.

Dac150
Jan 15, 2007, 10:20 PM
This is getting blown out of proportion. Everyone end the argument now before a moderator locks this thread. No more, its not worth it.

AZheat
Jan 16, 2007, 12:12 AM
Sky Tower or anyone who might know,
Recently the topic of the small foundation cracks came up and I understand that it is slowing the building of the wings. Is this still the situation? I notice in the newer photos that the center of the building is advancing very rapidly while the wings are much lower. Does anyone know the status of that problem? Thanks.

Dac150
Jan 16, 2007, 12:19 AM
That was a rumor, I had checked it out on the official Burj Dubai website and there was no such confirmation of such a predicament. Though there is still no explanation as to why the wings are slowil progressing. If anyone else knows information, please inform us.

malec
Jan 16, 2007, 1:06 AM
^^ Of course it's not going to be on the official website, emaar would do their best to hide such things ;)
It could be just a minor problem though. If large cracks did appear construction would have stopped

Sky Tower
Jan 16, 2007, 2:48 AM
Sky Tower, you're so wonderful and I love you! :thankyouthankyou:
Well, ok if you say so! :cool:
No really, you really are da man! :hug:
Well, I'm far too modest to accept that, but thanks.... :blush:
No, now that I've retired I've just realized that you really are a forum God and worship you as such.... :worship:
Well that may be true....pray tell AZheat, are there any more pearls of wizdom that I may impart upon you? :poke:
Sky Tower,
I have to admit that concerned me when I read the brief description on the Burj Dubai website about the cracks. Have you heard anything else about the cause or if it's really of any importance?
The only thing I've heard regarding the delay of a few setback is the re-enforcing of certain sections to make possible the new height change.
At the moment it's just an unsubstantiated rumor from two SSC forumers that I hope is false. Even so, small settlement cracks can and do happen in buildings like this and do not necessarily mean problems, but of course need inspection.
Sky Tower or anyone who might know,
Recently the topic of the small foundation cracks came up and I understand that it is slowing the building of the wings. Is this still the situation? I notice in the newer photos that the center of the building is advancing very rapidly while the wings are much lower. Does anyone know the status of that problem? Thanks.
:previous: :yes:
"The only thing I've heard regarding the delay of a few setback is the re-enforcing of certain sections to make possible the new height change.
At the moment it's just an unsubstantiated rumor from two SSC forumers that I hope is false. Even so, small settlement cracks can and do happen in buildings like this and do not necessarily mean problems, but of course need inspection."

Sorry, did I just say that?.....sorry did I just say that?

Pieces of eight.....squawk! :haha:

2-TOWERS
Jan 16, 2007, 5:35 AM
I Agree ,i Do Like This Building,there Will Only Be One Twin Towers, And The Same With This Building, You Guys Are Lucky For Getting Something Of This Size.

buildup
Jan 16, 2007, 1:28 PM
Burj Dubai is starting to look tall now! What floor are they at now and how tall is it?

Sky Tower
Jan 16, 2007, 1:58 PM
:previous: January 16th 2007 - Level 105 - Height 389.26m - Currently the 8th tallest highrise building in the world!

AZheat
Jan 16, 2007, 6:19 PM
Sky Tower,
Your alleged quotes by me were very entertaining. I must have sent them when I was having one of those blackouts.:D

Sky Tower
Jan 16, 2007, 6:34 PM
:previous: Sorry, I thought it was the virtual forum I often dream of when I wake up with 'qwertyuiop' imprinted on my forehead! :haha:

BTinSF
Jan 16, 2007, 11:36 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/01/17/mn_dubaitallest102.jpg

Dubai Building Becoming World's Tallest
- By JIM KRANE, Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, January 16, 2007


(01-16) 14:32 PST DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) --

The Burj Dubai skyscraper under construction here reached its 100th story on Tuesday, nearly two-thirds of the way in its relentless climb to become the world's tallest building.

With 3,000 laborers adding a new floor nearly every three days, the $1 billion spire is days away from surpassing a neighboring skyscraper that is currently the tallest in the Middle East, Dubai-based developer Emaar Properties said.

"The tower is a symbol of the city's pride and a statement of our arrival on the global scene as one of the world-class cities," Emaar chairman Mohammed Ali Alabbar said.

When finished in two years, the silvery steel-and-glass building is expected to rise beyond 2,300 feet and more than 160 floors — dozens of stories taller than the world's current tallest building, the Taipei 101 tower in Taiwan, which measures 1,671 feet and 101 floors.

It will also top the world's tallest freestanding structure, Toronto's CN Tower, which stands 1,815 feet.

The tallest building in the United States, the Sears Tower in Chicago, comes in at 1,451 feet, while the Empire State Building measures 1,250 feet. Before they were destroyed in the Sept. 11 attacks, the World Trade Center towers both topped 1,360 feet. The Freedom Tower being planned for the site will measure 1,776 feet when it's completed in 2011.

Emaar isn't releasing its plans for the final height of the Burj Dubai so it can add more stories if a competing developer mounts a challenge. Predictions on skyscraper Web sites say the cylindrical Burj, which was designed by American architect Adrian Smith, will eventually loom over the city from a height of 2,600 feet or more.

Until the 1960s, the United Arab Emirates was an impoverished desert country whose residents survived through subsistence fishing, farming and small-time trade.

After it became rich from oil, Dubai began building skyscrapers to gain international prestige, not, like Hong Kong and New York, because of a shortage of land. But Dubai's skyscraper binge has jacked up land prices so much that tall buildings are now the only feasible use of coveted building lots in the city's central district.

Dubai has staked its fame on bold engineering, building attention-grabbing projects including manmade resort islands shaped like palm trees, a mall with indoor skiing, and a vast Disney World-style amusement complex that includes plans for an apartment building that rotates on its axis.

Exhibiting a flair for the luxurious that is typical of Dubai, one of the skyscraper's high-profile tenants will be the Armani Hotel, developed in conjunction with Italian fashion designer Giorgio Armani. The spire will also contain private apartments and offices.

Surrounding the dramatic concrete and steel tower is a $20 billion development project that includes several smaller towers set amid winding canals and a gargantuan shopping mall.

All of this development has angered many environmentalists, who say the Emirates is one of the biggest energy consumers and carbon dioxide emitters per capita on the planet. The World Wildlife Fund has asked the country to move toward renewable energy, especially solar power viable in one of the world's sunniest climates.

Although the government says it is making improvements, construction hasn't slowed on projects like the Burj Dubai. Motorists on the adjacent highway get dramatic daily views of the tower's progress, with 10 cranes and the world's fastest construction hoists zipping concrete slabs and giant bundles of steel rods to dizzying heights.

The construction division of South Korean conglomerate Samsung is building the tower, using a three-day-per-story construction technique pioneered on skyscrapers in South Korea.

"We're not breaking any speed records, just the height record," said Beejay Kim, Samsung's Dubai-based business manager.

Only one building in the Middle East currently remains taller: the nearby Emirates Office Tower, a skyscraper resembling a razor blade that rises to 1,165 feet. The Burj Dubai is approaching that height now — it stands at 1,140 feet — and should surpass it within days.

Asked how long the Burj Dubai would hold the world record when it's finished, Kim said he was unsure. "If anyone is looking for an even taller building, we are happy to build it," he said.

The Middle East previously held the record of the earth's tallest structure for about 43 centuries. Built around 2500 B.C., Egypt's Great Pyramid of Giza dwarfed the competition at about 481 feet until 1889 when the Eiffel Tower was completed in Paris at a height of 1,023 feet, including the flag pole.

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On the Net:

www.burjdubai.com


URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2007/01/16/international/i143259S08.DTL

Bergenser
Jan 17, 2007, 1:33 PM
Camels and skyscrapers are great together! :D
Nice picture

Sky Tower
Jan 17, 2007, 4:44 PM
....nearly two-thirds of the way in its relentless climb to become the world's tallest building.This is probably my favorite of about 15 misquotes in this article. It's not even half way there yet!

Why on earth would Adrian Smith on the 16th January undersell the height by more than 40m?

Also, apparently it reached L100 on Tuesday, what kinda crap are they trying to feed us, we all know they're pouring L106 tomorrow! :shrug:

nezzybaby
Jan 17, 2007, 5:40 PM
my favourite one was the suggestion that the eiffel tower was the first structure to surpass the great pyramid in height for a free standing structure. Utter bollox.. entertaining article but full of factural innacuracies

BTinSF
Jan 17, 2007, 6:00 PM
^^^Actually, I posted it mostly for the picture and the comment about "predictions on shyscraper web sites". Is that US? We're famous!

WonderlandPark
Jan 17, 2007, 6:00 PM
my favourite one was the suggestion that the eiffel tower was the first structure to surpass the great pyramid in height for a free standing structure. Utter bollox.. entertaining article but full of factural innacuracies

I call BS, too.

Here are some churches that easily top the pyramids and have been around centuries, some had later spires than the original cathedral was built, but certainly were added before the Tour Eiffel, for sure.

Ulm Germany Gothic 14th century 528.0ft 161.0m
Cologne, Germany Gothic 1248–1560, 1842–1880 515.0ft 157.0m
Rouen, France Gothic 12th–15th centuries 495.0ft 151.0m
Strasbourg, France Gothic 1015–1439 475.0ft 142.0m
St. Stephen's,Austria Gothic 1359 - 1511 450.0 ft 137.0m

vanhenrik
Jan 17, 2007, 11:36 PM
ja jävlar den håller på o bli gigantiskt hög ! älskar bd !

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/01/17/mn_dubaitallest102.jpg


tänk att den skall bli mer en dubbelt så hög !

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

DUBAI2015
Jan 18, 2007, 1:13 AM
which means...

Sky Tower
Jan 18, 2007, 2:40 AM
:previous:
ja jävlar den håller på o bli gigantiskt hög ! älskar bd !

tänk att den skall bli mer en dubbelt så hög !

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:...which means....

"Yes, now it's becoming really BIG, I'm loving BD"

"Yet it's still going to be twice as high" (16 x dancing bananas)

-------->> :banana: These MO/FO's really do my head in by the way, they should be either outlawed, or limited to one per person per week! :shrug:

vanhenrik
Jan 18, 2007, 8:28 AM
:previous:
...which means....

"Yes, now it's becoming really BIG, I'm loving BD"

"Yet it's still going to be twice as high" (16 x dancing bananas)

-------->> :banana: These MO/FO's really do my head in by the way, they should be either outlawed, or limited to one per person per week! :shrug:

he he he yess you are right ! end its swedish ! he he :haha: