[jan966]

There is too many pictures in the previous thread so I choose the best. I hope the title will now be more justified.


http://images4.fotosik.pl/46/2f35337ad0f7a005.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8606/kkkk18tj.jpg

http://images2.fotosik.pl/89/f3223bf6dbfb3496.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1989/z3mb.jpg

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2889/proba8cr.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/926/img46027op.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6950/e4pj.jpg

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9687/img78705cf.jpg

http://pfl.neostrada.pl/IMG_0123.jpg

http://www.ga.com.pl/foto01/00259.jpg

http://www.ga.com.pl/foto19/08220x.jpg

http://www.ga.com.pl/foto21/10029x.jpg

http://www.ga.com.pl/foto19/08186x.jpg

[BTinSF]

I see a few buildings that appear to be clearly pre-WW II but I'm curious: How much of the city survived the war? A lot, not much??

[Swede]

^Warsaw was pretty much wiped out in the War.

Great skyline shots, no doubt. :)
but why the new thread? old one isn't even 50 replies long and is still on the first page here in the €forum?

[jan966]

I see a few buildings that appear to be clearly pre-WW II but I'm curious: How much of the city survived the war? A lot, not much??

You probably mean the buildings on Plac Trzech Krzyzy (Three Cross Square). But the answer is not simple. For example the church (now like a small Pantheon) was completly different before WW2, much bigger and much more beautiful, and was nearly completely destroyed. It was rebuild later during communist era, but the authorities allowed to build very small and modest church according to the existing XVIII century predecessor.

This pattern was applied to almost all historical buildings rebuild after the war.
In place of magnificent buildings, sometimes better and more impressive than that of Paris or London we have now a kind of "historical" small provincial city architecture. The original pre war architecture is very rare but exists and still shows how great city it was before the war.
In the begining of XX century Warsaw was a very wealthy city. It was a great industrial and trade center, a gateway to the markets of Russia and Far East. This can be clearly visible in the buildings from this period. By the way during first world war retracting russian occupation troops dismantled or damaged most of the industrial installations but little damage was done to the city itself.

I would say that 90% of city center had been completely destroyed in WW2. Most not during the actual battle but deliberately later. German troops drilled thousands of holes in walls of most precious monuments, filled with dynamite and blew up. Before this remaining alive population was expelled from the city. All furniture, tableware, paintings, silverware, linen, etc. has been looted in the organized way by german state. Thousands of railway carriages full of objects having any value was transported to Germany. The value of destroyed and stolen Warsaw property is counted in tenths of billions of dollars. This has no precedence in the history.

Below is one of the few buildings that survived the war relatively intact.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5471/pic484oe.jpg

[jan966]

^Warsaw was pretty much wiped out in the War.

Great skyline shots, no doubt. :)
but why the new thread? old one isn't even 50 replies long and is still on the first page here in the €forum?

For some reason my computer has problems in opening the old thread. I think other may have the same problem.

[jan966]

XIX century photo showing church on Plac Trzech Krzyzy.

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/ppmsc/03900/03918r.jpg

and now

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6950/e4pj.jpg

[tradlak]

I hope more buildings in Warsaw are restored to their pre-war glory. I believe the Bruhl and Saski palaces are set to be rebuilt. It would be great if some of the palaces around Plac Powstancow Warszawy, Malachowskiego and Dombrowskiego were rebuilt too to recreate the pre-war character somewhat.

[downtown_meltdown]

^Warsaw was pretty much wiped out in the War.

Great skyline shots, no doubt. :)
but why the new thread? old one isn't even 50 replies long and is still on the first page here in the €forum?

I agree. There has been a lot of Warsaw pictures posted already (most of them looking quite similar), so IMHO you should not start another thread each time you post a bunch of new pics. One thread is enough.

[jan966]

Interesting photo found in the net. You can see quite a few buildings that survived the war. Most of them were in fact build before the first WW and they have 9-10 storeys.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/piortek/Warszawa/Panoramy/pict1861.jpg

[jan966]

Warsaw from SSC

http://bi.gazeta.pl/o/a/forum/470/7/470771.jpg


These two pictures are really fantastic, some day they may be true because of global warming.

http://i5.tinypic.com/20j4ap3.jpg

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9204/23e2of6.jpg

[jan966]

A few more pictures from Warsaw (imported from SSC)

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2006/060919_z_intraco/060919_z_intraco_2309.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7438/kol8zk7.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2006/060920_z_centrum_olimpijskiego/060920_z_moonsfery_w_centrum_olimpijskim_2350.jpg


http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2681/4sd7.jpg

[jan966]

and more....

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6723/68406968fpmoizq6utom2238a1cmea3.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6143/scianayn7.jpg

[rakim]

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9008/15656410029d91fb324o5bjq5.jpg

[tradlak]

Amazing pics!

[Grumpy]

I adore the "zloty tarasy" complex very much.

Which building is that with that dome on top?
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/926/img46027op.jpg

[st.petr]

I adore the "zloty tarasy" complex very much.

Which building is that with that dome on top?
The tower is around 100 m high, so it's hardly visible from this perspective.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7357/img46027opexplva8.jpg

[Grumpy]

I am talking about the lowe rise on the right with the flag on top of it, the dome in the foreground

[SrbijaCG]

You should know that by now, De Snor....its the Blue City shopping mall;)
Originally a Turkish investment called "Reform Centre".

[st.petr]

^^
ahm
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7252/akl06di8.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/1341/akl18qp9.jpg

http://www.bluecity.pl/ Currently it has financial problems. Competition between shopping centers in Warsaw is increasing all the time. After opening of Zlote Tarasy which is planned for spring, all ranks will be upturned.

[qzzq]

This one (http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6723/68406968fpmoizq6utom2238a1cmea3.jpg) is a real stunner!

[jan966]

Another nice picture

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2006/060920_z_bemowa/060920_z_bloku_widawska_2345.jpg

[Mikael]

if you post photos that you found on ssc, write by whom it was taken

[otnemarcaS]

Great Warsaw photos. Can't wait to visit again next year.

[jan966]

Warsaw skyline including Libeskind Tower 192 m (planned to start early 2007)

http://www.zlota44tower.com/images/zdj1.jpg


You can see more info in http://www.zlota44tower.com/

[Luis_RiodeJaneiro]

wow! a beautiful and modern city! thanks

[gatt]

nice!

[jan966]

New population statistics for June 2006 have just been published.
Warsaw city is over 1 700 000, Warsaw sub-region is 1 360 000.

Total population of Warsaw metropolitan region is more than 3 mln. It is expected that in not many years the population of Warsaw can increase by additional 1 mln.

Will Warsaw be greater than Berlin?

[NorthPole]

:previous: Also number of Poles in Berlin grows rapidly, so I don't think Warsaw will surpass Berlin :haha:
Officially Warsaw pop. is some 1.7 mln, but unofficially it's close to 2.1 mln now with metro pop. being over 3.2 mln.
What's more, if we add Lodz metro (some 1.1-1.2 mln) being (I mean metro area) less than 100km away, it's over 4.4 mln conurbation in Central Poland which can be compared only to Upper Silesia - Cracow conurbation on the south with pop. of over 4.5 mln.

[WMS]

New population statistics for June 2006 have just been published.
Warsaw city is over 1 700 000, Warsaw sub-region is 1 360 000.

Total population of Warsaw metropolitan region is more than 3 mln. It is

where did you get that?

[jan966]

GUS :banana:

http://www.stat.gov.pl/

[FREKI]

Frigging Sweet... the city looks awesome!

[jan966]

Shopping mall Zlote Tarasy and Warsaw Trade Tower. Picture from the net.

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Srodmiescie/ZloteTarasy/2006-11_-_001_-_Warszawa_-_Zlote_Tarasy.jpg

[fumfel83]

No one here called the city beautiful for a reason :D . It has a 'fantastic' potential though. I mean, like Cindirella.

[SouthJersey7]

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/poland.jpg
Actually, you didn't. Great pics!

[spiritedenergy]

oh my God Warsaw is gorgeous i never knwe it was like that!:tup:

[drozdzu]

The tower is around 100 m high, so it's hardly visible from this perspective.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7357/img46027opexplva8.jpg



If You search for some buldings in Warsaw or Poland You can look THIS (http://bank.muratorplus.pl/szukaj/inwestycje/?szukajZakresRodzaj=&szukajMiasto=warszawa&clear_extra=1&submitSearch.x=0&submitSearch.y=0)

[jan966]

Warsaw 2007

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3204/s1gz1.jpg

[jan966]

One more new photo from SSC

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8540/dscf2732wu5.jpg

[Jonas]

Can anyone explain me the situation with Rondo 1 Tower? To my best knowledge in the beginning the announced height was 192m (that included a spire) but now it's just 159m and instead of a spire, if I'm not mistaken, we see an antenna which doesn't count as part of the structure. So why is that?

[detroit_alive]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/piortek/Warszawa/Panoramy/pict1861.jpg

Can someone tell me if the yellow building in this picture is the Politechnika Warszawska.

[WMS]

Can someone tell me if the yellow building in this picture is the Politechnika Warszawska.

yes, it is the main building of Politechnika

[myleo]

Wasn't the opening of Golden Terraces planned for this month?

[eryk512]

It's going to be opened in 3 days

[Gregor1906]

That's my first post. Warszawa/Warsaw is great. I'm Polish, and I'm proud of this financial center. But if you look on the other parts of city, you'll see worse building's in soviet architecture.

[jan966]

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Srodmiescie/ZloteTarasy/2007-02-07_-_002_-_Warszawa_-_Zlote_tarasy_-_otwarcie.jpg

[jan966]

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2007_03_06_Warszawa_panoramy/2007_03_06_-_006_-_Warszawa.jpg

[mic of orion]

very nice :tup:

[jan966]

A few more pictures of Warsaw

http://images20.fotosik.pl/203/af9b56073ec4e76d.gif

http://images20.fotosik.pl/203/929bbd7b977310a4.jpg

http://images21.fotosik.pl/149/0d2ac54abfb24605.gif

http://pfl.neostrada.pl/waw_3.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/Pozostale/2007_04_05_-_001_-_Warszawa.jpg

[jan966]

New office building in the district Srodmiescie Poludniowe (Southern City Center)

http://redhouse.nazwa.pl/200704-IBC_3.jpg

Western Part of the City Center and District Wola, so called Wild West, because it was completely (close to 100%) destroyed by Germans during WWII and stayed in the very bad shape until recently.

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Wola/Bellona/2007_04_13_-_ul_Towarowa_-_Wojskowe_Zaklady_Graficzne_-_Bellona.jpg

http://images20.fotosik.pl/160/ba5876b1e5db085e.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2007_04_13_Warszawa_panoramy/2007_04_13_-_001_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa.jpg

Hopefuly space for a new skyscraper...

http://images21.fotosik.pl/111/ea2e84bd35fb3539.jpg

[jan966]

Ne pictures of Warsaw from SSC:

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2074/789299gg6.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/Pozostale/2007_04_05_-_002_-_Warszawa_-_panorama_z_okolic_ul_Bartyckiej.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/Pozostale/2007_04_05_-_003_-_Warszawa_-_panorama_z_okolic_ul_Bartyckiej.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/833/694023jx5.jpg

[jan966]

Zlote Tarasy and Rondo 1

http://images21.fotosik.pl/198/7d5d9746907b1cbb.jpg

Zamek Krolewski- The Royal Castle

http://images21.fotosik.pl/205/9b92484c0660fb34.jpg

http://images21.fotosik.pl/205/04a23d5b0e10e479.jpg

Stare Miasto- The Old Town

http://images21.fotosik.pl/205/46af8b535e8c383b.jpg

http://images20.fotosik.pl/264/2582d21d0dae6ebe.jpg

[detroit_alive]

Leaving Warsaw Central Station:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/etlchow/war.jpg

Marszalkowska Street at dusk:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/etlchow/marszalkowkaatnight.jpg

[jan966]

Warsaw city center

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1223/64088769is8.jpg

[jan966]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1090870.jpg

[xaz]

I very like it ! go go Warsaw

[Walkor]

There's many beauty skyscrapers but the location of them was pathetic i mean street laying with the buildings.

[LukeMore]

Pls wait a minute for liberskin bulding and the 300 m towers near "palace of culture and science" that changes everything ;) Warsaw - this is the town that can be the visiting-card of ue - the really scycrapper-city. There is lot of mess in architecture - that is a fact. But from the one side: the old town, and from the other side: scycrapper district its quite good idea. Face the truth: Warsaw is the only big city in ue which have opportunity to become the really scycrappers city (already have a beautiful skyline). Many city in ue are 100 more times beautiful than Warsaw but there is no place for that structure - in Warsaw city center - there is ! That is our opportunity. Sorry for my Kali-english :D. For my excuse - a couple of empty bottles i left behind today ;)

[st.petr]

Since SsC is down again. ;) Some Warsaw panos from the Hilton taken by me:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/200/p023fy9.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2364/p017kz8.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8595/p0024az6.jpg

[jan966]

New from SSC


http://mislaw.eu.interia.pl/zronda.jpg

[vercetti]

few of my pictures from the 30th floor of Warsaw Trade Tower taken yesterday

Golden Terraces mall
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130097.jpg

rondo1
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130096.jpg

empty plots waiting for several new residental mid rises
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130095.jpg

big whites are the communist creatures called settlement behind the iron gate. Built among the leftovers of the former city now being mixed with modern architecture.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130101.jpg

[st.petr]

empty plots waiting for several new residental mid rises
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130095.jpg
Since when 85-120 m tall buildings are mid-rises? :poke:

[vercetti]

all right :D high ones coming up too, its a matter of defining mid, high
to exemplify what's comming up: towers under consturuction and planned in this area

picture without the ones covering the view
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/wttwiev304.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/wttwiev307.jpg

[tradlak]

Warsaw is a very exciting city, unfortunately right now the ratio of 'under construction' to 'proposed/approved' is very high and often nothing is built. The unbuilt category is the highest. No doubt, it's not easy trying to absorb all of this development pressure while updating administrative standards. Managing change will be Warsaw's biggest challenge.

[jan966]

New city president is very slow. There is a long list of construction sites or planned projects that seem to be frozen.
Nice picture to improve the mood.

http://domdevelopment.pl/uploads/images/inwestycje/grzybowska3.jpg

[powtar]

I just can't wait to see new buildings down here. There are many planned or u/c now in very close area. It seems that Warsaw is going to have some kind of Manhattan in few years. Now it's going to look like real most important city in Central Europe.