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WesternGulf
05-08-2007, 05:11 PM
What do you mean by the westheimer tower?
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2775820&postcount=521
RocTX
05-08-2007, 11:27 PM
My only complaint; why oh why can't anyone build something like this on the current rail line in midtown or the museum district? Can you imagine a project like this on the rail line near the museums? It would be KILLER.
Exactly...Better yet, why is it taking so long to build out the other proposed rail/BRT lines? I know they've changed some of their plans and there's been some resistance along Richmond, but can't Metro start building somewhere? I mean, didn't we decide to do this over three years ago?
Great_Hizzy
05-09-2007, 03:14 PM
Construction on the proposed lines (particularly the BRT along the North Main and Harrisburg corridors) is tentatively scheduled for 2009. The hope is to have the Richmond E-W corridor ready to go by then as well.
It's not just up to METRO to start building like they did with the Red Line. This time, they'll have to receive federal financial support for these projects, and up until last fall, they didn't exactly have anyone in the federal government on their side.
RocTX
05-09-2007, 07:57 PM
The wheels of bureaucracy turn slowly, I guess. It's amazing how they can fast-track something like the I-10 expansion but not light rail for the city. I bet this project would move way faster if it got the same level support from John Culberson's office as the Katy Freeway did...
Anyway, this topic is probably better addressed in HAIF than here, but it is a hot button of mine.
weatherguru18
05-10-2007, 10:56 PM
Driving up 45 today and saw a huge area of land cleared at the Beltway and the N. freeway across from Greenspoint Mall. Anybody have any idea? I believe it's a big warehouse, but I'm not sure. I caught a glimpse of the sign and only caught "...business park..."
rdavis4559
05-10-2007, 11:13 PM
No idea but they have been working on it for quite a while. You're right, its a huge stretch of land. There has been a great deal of expansion on the beltway between 290 and 45 as well as that stretch right there.... business parks and warehouses going up everywhere.
c4smok
05-11-2007, 09:55 PM
They are pretty close to finishing the new 5 story bank on 1960 close to Humble. Looks pretty decent so far..
Double L
05-11-2007, 10:12 PM
I thought the Houston area taxpayers were paying for METRO Solutions. I thought the only federal funding issue at play was whether or not we would have the opportunity to upgrade the Bus Rapid Transit systems to light rail as was proposed by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee and has as yet not been able to recieve support in Congress.
I thought the only work going on right now is designing the system and garnering whether or not there is political support and approval for the design of the system.
Shasta
05-11-2007, 10:28 PM
O'Connor and Associates came out with their first quarter 2007 office report for the city of Houston. There's plenty of good news...
2,100,000 square feet were absorbed in the first 3 months of 2007.
Class A office space is running a 91.7% occupany rate. That is VERY healthy and indicates we should be hearing about a few more big developments soon from the likes of Hines (on Main St. downtown), Brookfield (Allen Center Garage tower maybe?), Crescent (a 6 Houston Center), and Linbeck (mixed-use for historic area downtown). It's also good news for the people building office space in places like Regent Square, The Oaks District, and BLVD Place.
Things are getting very tight around town. It appears that downtown might see more cranes than she has since the early 1980s.
Xeelee
05-13-2007, 06:05 AM
I love the new news.
as do I. :)
weatherguru18
05-13-2007, 08:09 AM
When can we expect renderings or news on any of the planned towers DT? I've heard them proposed, but that's it. I hope the others turn out better than Discovery Tower will. I really expected more out of that building. What a pity.
Shasta
05-14-2007, 12:45 AM
The Chronicle mentioned today that the island in South Shore Harbour (League City) will be renamed Beacon Island and it will have 800 residential units added (including 180 in twin twenty-five story condo towers).
With these twins, the 2 proposed for Kemah, The Endeavour, The Endeavour Parkside, The 2 Endeavour Loft towers (at the Marina), the Apollo Marriott and a few others, the Clear Lake area is really starting to take off!
Yeah, a new skyline is rising in Southeast Texas!
Shasta
05-14-2007, 03:33 PM
Moody National purchased land at the corner of Cambridge @ Woodbury near the Texas Medical Center and they plan to put up a residential tower.
CAMBRIDGE TOWER will have 200 rental units and break ground in early 2008 with an opening set for 2009. Total cost of the build out will be $35 million. The location is near the VA Hospital as well as the area Baylor Med is planning on building their own teaching hospital.
No news yet on architecture firms or height...
Great_Hizzy
05-14-2007, 04:22 PM
Don't you love how "inactive" Houston is. LOL!!!
Ho hum...
JMancuso
05-14-2007, 10:16 PM
Don't you love how "inactive" Houston is. LOL!!!
Ho hum...
compared to the early 80's and mid 90's it kinda is.
The Houston Dynamo will be building their stadium downtown. Pearland and Sugar Land dropped their bids.
WesternGulf
05-15-2007, 03:00 PM
compared to the early 80's and mid 90's it kinda is.
Mid 90's? :stunned:
I don't think there is a city in the US currently except for NYC and maybe Chi that could compare to Houston's scraper boom of the 80's. No, but Houston has never been this economically healthy in years if people are actually paying attention.
rdavis4559
05-15-2007, 03:19 PM
I agree with you about the economic health of the city. We have diversified beyond energy to a great extent and have a great airport and seaport and a huge amount of immigration to boot... Houston is expected to grow its population much more than many large US cities. Thinks can only get better and better. Exponential growth...
Shasta
05-15-2007, 04:19 PM
Here's the first rendering from the University of Houston's master plan. This is the 1,000 bed and mixed-use graduate level housing that should start construction soon.
http://athena.divshare.com/s03/files/2007/05/09/606500/Picture6.jpg
Great_Hizzy
05-15-2007, 04:42 PM
Is that at the main campus?
LordElPaso
05-15-2007, 04:54 PM
I agree with you about the economic health of the city. We have diversified beyond energy to a great extent and have a great airport and seaport and a huge amount of immigration to boot... Houston is expected to grow its population much more than many large US cities. Thinks can only get better and better. Exponential growth...
famous last words!
WesternGulf
05-15-2007, 04:57 PM
Thanks for the rendering Shasta. The design was very expected IMO but still nice.
Shasta
05-15-2007, 05:00 PM
Is that at the main campus?
Yes. It will rise near the Law School and Bauer School of Biz.
A second garage with ground floor retail is also due to go up near Robertson Stadium later this year too (the first opened near the Moody Towers earlier in the school year).
In 15 years, the main campus will look nothing like it currently does. Plans are for almost every surface lot to be replaced by garages, green space, and new construction.
Bailey
05-15-2007, 06:34 PM
Yes. It will rise near the Law School and Bauer School of Biz.
A second garage with ground floor retail is also due to go up near Robertson Stadium later this year too (the first opened near the Moody Towers earlier in the school year).
In 15 years, the main campus will look nothing like it currently does. Plans are for almost every surface lot to be replaced by garages, green space, and new construction.
Any information on the University Rail Line? Do we know how close the rail is going to campus? I can envision UH being one of the most cutting edge urban campuses with the plan and rail.
WesternGulf
05-15-2007, 07:06 PM
Any information on the University Rail Line? Do we know how close the rail is going to campus? I can envision UH being one of the most cutting edge urban campuses with the plan and rail.
Here is some more info on the master plan:
http://www.advancement.uh.edu/masterplan/
Here is the power point. The only info on rail connections is slide 44
http://www.advancement.uh.edu/masterplan/downloads/presentation.pps#533,1,Slide 1
UH is going to look good in ten years.
JMancuso
05-15-2007, 10:50 PM
Mid 90's? :stunned:
I don't think there is a city in the US currently except for NYC and maybe Chi that could compare to Houston's scraper boom of the 80's. No, but Houston has never been this economically healthy in years if people are actually paying attention.
i remember the 80's...downtown looked like dubai.
when i first moved (back) here in 1997, there was a lot of construction going on. not downtown (except for enron II) but other areas all over the city. now the construction has been concentrated on residential and the medical center. back then it was predominantly mid-rise office buildings.
WesternGulf
05-15-2007, 11:37 PM
i remember the 80's...downtown looked like dubai.
when i first moved (back) here in 1997, there was a lot of construction going on. not downtown (except for enron II) but other areas all over the city. now the construction has been concentrated on residential and the medical center. back then it was predominantly mid-rise office buildings.
If we are talking about high rise buildings or anything noticeable, construction was pretty much non existent in the 90's. Know that two of the three high rises that I can think of that were constructed in the 90's were prettty much leftovers from the 80's boom. St Lukes in the TMC and some building out in Westchase. There was one building built downtown and that was the Harris County Criminal building. To say what we are experiencing now does not compare to the 90's is kind of a stretch.
RocTX
05-18-2007, 03:52 PM
i remember the 80's...downtown looked like dubai.
when i first moved (back) here in 1997, there was a lot of construction going on. not downtown (except for enron II) but other areas all over the city. now the construction has been concentrated on residential and the medical center. back then it was predominantly mid-rise office buildings.
Houston must have been insane back in the late '70's and early '80's. I keep trying to find photographs of the city from that period, but have never had much luck. I've found lots from the 50's and 60's and then again in the '90's, but I would love to see what the city looked like when its skyline was rising up.
rdavis4559
05-18-2007, 06:44 PM
the first pic is from "the mid to late 1970s." 2 houston center was completed in 1974 so the pic its at least that old
the second is obviously from 1979
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/aerial2.gif
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/warwickhotel1979.jpg
JMancuso
05-18-2007, 06:58 PM
If we are talking about high rise buildings or anything noticeable, construction was pretty much non existent in the 90's. Know that two of the three high rises that I can think of that were constructed in the 90's were prettty much leftovers from the 80's boom. St Lukes in the TMC and some building out in Westchase. There was one building built downtown and that was the Harris County Criminal building. To say what we are experiencing now does not compare to the 90's is kind of a stretch.
i live in the galleria. many of the residential high-rises were built in late 90's apart from dominion and the new one where coney island was. 9/11 quashed the momentum and only now is it rebounding.
like i said, a load of medium sized buildings (5-6 stories) sprung up all over town in mid the 90's..the kind you drive by and don't give two thoughts about. the 3 new BMC buildings as well as briarlake plaza were just a few of the dozens of buildings to popped up in west houston then. today there are more high profile projects but still at a lower frequency. at least that's my impression.
Yeah, Uptown was getting big in the 90's, while Downtown was stable.
RocTX
05-18-2007, 11:07 PM
the first pic is from "the mid to late 1970s." 2 houston center was completed in 1974 so the pic its at least that old
the second is obviously from 1979
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/aerial2.gif
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/warwickhotel1979.jpg
Thanks for the great pictures. Looks like DT was pretty much dominated by Shell, Exxon, and Houston Center back then. I can't believe all the open space to the east of Houston Center...it's almost 30 years later and we're still trying to fill all of that in!!
I'll have to look around. It seems that someone in my family once had a framed picture from about 1982 that was taken from I-45 looking south. I remember that Wells Fargo (Allied Bank Plaza) was still under construction in the picture and the Bank of America tower did not exist. Pennzoil pretty much dominated the center of the skyline between Texas Commerce (Chase Tower) and the Allied Bank construction. I'll post it if I can find a copy to scan.
rdavis4559
05-19-2007, 12:31 AM
that sounds pretty cool. i hope you find it.
RocTX
05-19-2007, 05:19 AM
Yeah...I'll ask around to see if anyone still has it. Meanwhile, I was Googling for images and ran across this article (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nbm.org/blueprints/80s/fall83/page8/TexasTower.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nbm.org/blueprints/80s/fall83/page8/page8.htm&h=271&w=200&sz=22&hl=en&start=28&um=1&tbnid=kLHc6G3XCUgrxM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=83&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhouston%2Bskyline%2B1981%26start%3D18%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN). It's loaded with pictures and it's a fascinating account from that time period. I wish they had gotten around to building the Bank of the Southwest before everything fell apart. That thing had to have been a good 1300' tall!
rdavis4559
05-19-2007, 10:44 AM
Thats a great article.
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Maze/9975/bankofsw.gif
If only it were built...
Capt AWACS
05-19-2007, 11:33 AM
/\ NO kidding, what a tower. Chase should have 5 extra stories but it hit height problems from approaches to Hobby.
Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, A Houston tradition since 1975
rdavis4559
05-19-2007, 02:59 PM
Does that mean there is a CBD height limit in effect?
RocTX
05-19-2007, 05:51 PM
/\ NO kidding, what a tower. Chase should have 5 extra stories but it hit height problems from approaches to Hobby.
Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, A Houston tradition since 1975
I've heard that about Chase. However, this article says that Bank of the Southwest was planned for 83 stories, plus a spire. I wonder why would there have been a height limit for Chase and not for this building?
JMancuso
05-19-2007, 08:34 PM
chase tower was planned in late 70's while BSW was planned in early 80's so i would imagine the FAA changed their policy.
RocTX
05-19-2007, 08:48 PM
chase tower was planned in late 70's while BSW was planned in early 80's so i would imagine the FAA changed their policy.
Good point. You know, another thing about that article that caught my eye was that DT office vacancy in 1981 at the height of the boom was at around 5%, and towers were going up despite the high interest rates at that time. Aren't we at 5% vacancy now? The overall business climate also seems more favorable as compared to 1981. Why aren't we seeing more DT offices going up now?!!
ChiPsy
05-19-2007, 10:08 PM
I was Googling for images and ran across this article (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nbm.org/blueprints/80s/fall83/page8/TexasTower.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nbm.org/blueprints/80s/fall83/page8/page8.htm&h=271&w=200&sz=22&hl=en&start=28&um=1&tbnid=kLHc6G3XCUgrxM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=83&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhouston%2Bskyline%2B1981%26start%3D18%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN). It's loaded with pictures and it's a fascinating account from that time period.
Great find with that article, RocTX! What a fascinating "recent historical" perspective to read. I had to laugh out loud at her assertion about the tall buildings precipitating cloud formation, though!
Fun stuff :tup:
rdavis4559
05-19-2007, 10:22 PM
Good point. You know, another thing about that article that caught my eye was that DT office vacancy in 1981 at the height of the boom was at around 5%, and towers were going up despite the high interest rates at that time. Aren't we at 5% vacancy now? The overall business climate also seems more favorable as compared to 1981. Why aren't we seeing more DT offices going up now?!!
I know the vacancy rate is low but I don't think its as low as 5%. I thought I remembered the number being discussed here but I went all the way back to the 13th page and found nothing. From my memory (and I could be wrong) the vacancy rate was somewhere around 9-12%.
I remember an article stating it is lower than 10% now.
Here are more photos of One Park Tower (from HAIF):
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/vidfo12/ParkTowerCon.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/vidfo12/ParkTowerCon2.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/vidfo12/ParkTowerCon3.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/vidfo12/ParkTowerCon4.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/vidfo12/ParkTowerCon5.jpg
guess
05-19-2007, 11:14 PM
right across from the new park and the hilton
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2372/whatse6.jpg
http://www.westaveriveroaks.com has new images
pavilions, what could have been.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4060/gallery5ko3.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7302/streetlevelxw6.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1407/terracelevelkm2.jpg
I like it!
Here is the new Metro Solutions plan. It is a lot better than before, too:
Metro Solutions Plan 2007 (http://metrosolutions.org/posted/1068/METRO_Solutions_Overview_and_Update_May_2007.156816.pdf)
What stores will be in West Ave?
RocTX
05-20-2007, 03:50 AM
I like it!
Here is the new Metro Solutions plan. It is a lot better than before, too:
Metro Solutions Plan 2007 (http://metrosolutions.org/posted/1068/METRO_Solutions_Overview_and_Update_May_2007.156816.pdf)
Thanks for the Metro update. I'm glad to see that they'll start turning dirt petty soon. I saw this article (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4780331.html)recently saying that Union Pacific officials are casting doubts about the feasibility of running communter rail through the proposed transit center. I wonder if this will affect Metro's planning in any way.
RocTX
05-20-2007, 04:11 AM
I know the vacancy rate is low but I don't think its as low as 5%. I thought I remembered the number being discussed here but I went all the way back to the 13th page and found nothing. From my memory (and I could be wrong) the vacancy rate was somewhere around 9-12%.
You're right. The most recent data I can find comes from Grubb-Ellis (http://www.grubb-ellis.com/PDF/metro_off_mkttrnd/Houston.pdf)and it has the CBD office vacancy rate at 16.7% as of the first quarter 2007. The good news is that Nancy Sarnoff at the Chronicle reported that absorption during 2006 through Nov. 1 of that year was at 2.8 million square ft (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/4359035.html), which was second highest in the city's history after 1981 (at 3.7 million sq ft). The really good news is that this is almost all existing office space vs. 1981, which was mostly new construciton. The more we soak up all of that existing office space the greater the probability of a new tower popping up sometime in the near future.
RocTX
05-20-2007, 04:14 AM
Great find with that article, RocTX! What a fascinating "recent historical" perspective to read. I had to laugh out loud at her assertion about the tall buildings precipitating cloud formation, though!
Fun stuff :tup:
Yeah, that was pretty funny. I bet that idea originated from a bunch of NIMBYs!!!
rdavis4559
05-20-2007, 10:46 AM
You're right. The most recent data I can find comes from Grubb-Ellis (http://www.grubb-ellis.com/PDF/metro_off_mkttrnd/Houston.pdf)and it has the CBD office vacancy rate at 16.7% as of the first quarter 2007. The good news is that Nancy Sarnoff at the Chronicle reported that absorption during 2006 through Nov. 1 of that year was at 2.8 million square ft (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/4359035.html), which was second highest in the city's history after 1981 (at 3.7 million sq ft). The really good news is that this is almost all existing office space vs. 1981, which was mostly new construciton. The more we soak up all of that existing office space the greater the probability of a new tower popping up sometime in the near future.
Great article. Also from the same article is "Stewart Robinson, principal of commercial real estate firm Conine & Robinson' saying that downtown vacancy rate should be close to 10 percent by year-end. And to some, that means it's time to start building new space. But nothing's been announced yet."
Owlhorn
05-20-2007, 11:24 AM
The thing I noticed that got things jumpstarted in Dallas was demand for big blocks of office space, which are more rare in inner cities. But, these also have to be inquiries, which these days come from only certain sectors of business. So you could have 1% vacancy and still have a hard time finding enough inquiries to those big blocks. Once you get a few of these, you start getting speculative building. Yes, speculative, but still based on something.
Xeelee
05-20-2007, 11:14 PM
Thanks for the Metro update. I'm glad to see that they'll start turning dirt petty soon. I saw this article (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4780331.html)recently saying that Union Pacific officials are casting doubts about the feasibility of running communter rail through the proposed transit center. I wonder if this will affect Metro's planning in any way.
They need to divert UP traffic to the northern outskirts of Houston and NOT in the middle of downtown. The Texas Railroad Commission is chock-full of corrupt old-line good-ol boys. They will never agree to such a move.
weatherguru18
05-21-2007, 04:24 AM
Why doesn't METRO make it just one big transit center, including Amtrak? Our Amtrak station in Houston is a sorry excuse...it's a dang bus station placed underneith a freeway. Just a thought.
Team and the City agreed to terms...
70 Million dollar Stadium going up just east of Minute Maid Park..
The team owners will pay most of the cost for the stadium..
in the pre-design it showed the stadium in a diagonal direction from 59 and it will keep some distance from 59 at least in the pre-design at least. Stadium looks dwarfed by MMP though =X
http://houstonx.com/dynamosite2.jpg
WesternGulf
05-22-2007, 02:25 PM
right across from the new park and the hilton
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2372/whatse6.jpg
:D
Shasta
05-23-2007, 07:50 PM
Here's the new Baylor Clinic and Hospital rendering that broke ground today...
http://www.bcm.edu/development/campaign/images/bcmchrendering.jpg
^
Right off of the bat, that is one of my favorite designs for Houston in the past decade, simply because it has a "different" element to it, which is something that placed Houston on the architectural map but as a whole has been noticebly absent since the early 90's. Nice design. More More More.
Where exactly will this be located?
Shasta
05-24-2007, 06:42 AM
Here's a pic from the Spires Condo just East of the Med Center. You can see the new Pickens Academic Center (formerly called Faculty Center Tower) rising as well as the cranes for the 8 floor expansion to the 12 story Feigin Center at Texas Children's Hospital.
http://harpictures.marketlinx.com/MediaDisplay/60/hr1922060-13.jpg
Xeelee
05-24-2007, 07:15 PM
I like that design too. It is about time something a little bolder gets built here... in sharp contrast to the bland designs coming out lately. :)
Xeelee
05-24-2007, 07:16 PM
Team and the City agreed to terms...
70 Million dollar Stadium going up just east of Minute Maid Park..
The team owners will pay most of the cost for the stadium..
in the pre-design it showed the stadium in a diagonal direction from 59 and it will keep some distance from 59 at least in the pre-design at least. Stadium looks dwarfed by MMP though =X
http://houstonx.com/dynamosite2.jpg
This should really help business in the area. :)
Complex01
05-24-2007, 07:31 PM
:previous:
I agree. The area has some development, hopefully this will give it a bigger push. Nice DT has really come a long way, and still has some more great potential...
:yes:
Texas Tuff
05-24-2007, 08:12 PM
^
Right off of the bat, that is one of my favorite designs for Houston in the past decade, simply because it has a "different" element to it, which is something that placed Houston on the architectural map but as a whole has been noticebly absent since the early 90's. Nice design. More More More.
Where exactly will this be located?
According to the BCM website, the new clinic and hospital will be located at the corner of Cambridge and Old Spanish Trail across from the VA hospital.
Check out the detailed map on www.bcm.edu under news and events on the first page.
RocTX
05-28-2007, 03:18 AM
I took my daughter to the Children's Museum today and I saw a notice for a high-rise development across the street. I think the sign referred medical space and the picture on the sign looked like at least 20 stories, but I was too far away to see it clearly. Does anyone know anything about this one? I believe the block is at Binz, La Branch, Calumet, and Austin St.
Shasta
05-28-2007, 06:00 AM
Yeah, that's a proposal that's been around for awhile now. Starting to doubt if this one will rise. You can find out more here,
www.binzmedcorp.com
Shasta
05-29-2007, 03:20 AM
Does anyone in Houston know if this is under construction?
http://www.wulfe.com/Realister/manager/property/Louisiana%203201/Pictures/3201louisiana-night.jpg
This is a proposal for 3201 Louisiana Street in Midtown. Apparently, 24 Hour Fitness has leased the entire second floor (24,000 square feet) and only a few small spaces remain on ground level. This is good news if it is rising because of the way it is built to the street and because it has garage parking rather than surface.
toxteth o'grady
05-29-2007, 03:33 AM
Team and the City agreed to terms...
70 Million dollar Stadium going up just east of Minute Maid Park..
The team owners will pay most of the cost for the stadium..
in the pre-design it showed the stadium in a diagonal direction from 59 and it will keep some distance from 59 at least in the pre-design at least. Stadium looks dwarfed by MMP though =X
Maybe I'm jaded, but $70 million sounds like a lot of bucks being thrown around for a soccer stadium. How many seats, and how does it compare with the stadium in Frisco, Texas?
Complex01
05-29-2007, 03:22 PM
Does anyone in Houston know if this is under construction?
This is a proposal for 3201 Louisiana Street in Midtown. Apparently, 24 Hour Fitness has leased the entire second floor (24,000 square feet) and only a few small spaces remain on ground level. This is good news if it is rising because of the way it is built to the street and because it has garage parking rather than surface.
I passed by the site this weekend, and dont recall anything new, other then that fact that its still fenced in. I was wandering what they were going to do at that location.
RocTX
05-29-2007, 09:11 PM
Yeah, that's a proposal that's been around for awhile now. Starting to doubt if this one will rise. You can find out more here,
www.binzmedcorp.com
Yup...that's what I saw. The curved tower is ok but not very original. I don't like the base/parking garage and surrounding plaza at all. The area around there has a decent amount of foliage, so why did they just leave half a dozen small trees in the middle of a barren plaza that has all the appeal of paved surface parking? So much for pedestrian-oriented development near the light rail!! To me, this looks more appropriate for Westchase. It won't kill me if this one doesn't go up--I think the area around the museums deserves much better.
Thanks for the link.
WesternGulf
05-30-2007, 01:18 AM
Does anyone in Houston know if this is under construction?
http://www.wulfe.com/Realister/manager/property/Louisiana%203201/Pictures/3201louisiana-night.jpg
This is a proposal for 3201 Louisiana Street in Midtown. Apparently, 24 Hour Fitness has leased the entire second floor (24,000 square feet) and only a few small spaces remain on ground level. This is good news if it is rising because of the way it is built to the street and because it has garage parking rather than surface.
If that is McGowen, it is definitely under construction.
edit: eh, looks like what is going in near the Calais. Site has been inactive for a while.
Shasta
05-31-2007, 05:41 AM
Bummer to read that it is inactive. With 24 Hour Fitness signing for the entire 2nd floor and most of the ground floor spoken for (according to Wulfe's website), it seems like it should rise soon.
And, while not the greatest looking project, this just appeared on har.com tonight...
http://harpictures.marketlinx.com/MediaDisplay/90/hr1928390-1.jpg
the lot today
http://harpictures.marketlinx.com/MediaDisplay/90/hr1928390-5.jpg
5001 Fannin at Wichita Street in the Museum District. 20 for sale condos starting at $270,000. Love the fact they are advertising the light rail line as one of their top selling points. No ground floor retail it seems but this area (just a few blocks South of US 59/The Spur) is way too barren right now to support retail. That will come if more of these are built...
Saddle Man
05-31-2007, 01:58 PM
Are those garage doors on the first floor?
WesternGulf
05-31-2007, 02:22 PM
Yeah they have a banner up on the wall of that site. The name escapes me but it is called Casa de Ventra or something like that. I might have murdered the name of the project. They have a website. By the way, the lot is EXTREMELY small in person. Hard to believe that is rising on the site.
RocTX
05-31-2007, 07:04 PM
Are those garage doors on the first floor?
It wouldn't surprise me. Disappointed?...yes. Surprised...not so much..
The River Oaks District (http://www.olivermcmillan.com/deve/houston/houston_imag_aerialview.html#). I suggest every view the flash version. Real nice project.
Shasta
06-04-2007, 05:58 AM
The Medical Clinic of Houston on Sunset Blvd in the swanky Southampton area is planning on adding this 6 story tower. There will be neighborhood objections for sure, but I like the fact that this 6 story building and parking garage will replace a HORRIBLE surface parking lot in the middle of Houston's most beautiful area. The brick details mimic Rice U nearby.
http://cll.bizjournals.com/story_image/84840-400-0.jpg
Xeelee
06-04-2007, 03:44 PM
Looks good. :)
Xeelee
06-04-2007, 04:26 PM
Bummer to read that it is inactive. With 24 Hour Fitness signing for the entire 2nd floor and most of the ground floor spoken for (according to Wulfe's website), it seems like it should rise soon.
And, while not the greatest looking project, this just appeared on har.com tonight...
http://harpictures.marketlinx.com/MediaDisplay/90/hr1928390-1.jpg
the lot today
http://harpictures.marketlinx.com/MediaDisplay/90/hr1928390-5.jpg
5001 Fannin at Wichita Street in the Museum District. 20 for sale condos starting at $270,000. Love the fact they are advertising the light rail line as one of their top selling points. No ground floor retail it seems but this area (just a few blocks South of US 59/The Spur) is way too barren right now to support retail. That will come if more of these are built...
This is already listed on some real estate sites:
http://yahoo.prugarygreene.com/details/start.aspx?propid=0010006722124
Great_Hizzy
06-04-2007, 10:49 PM
So this is on Fannin and across San Jacinto from the other project that is going up in the area along the rail line, correct?
Shasta
06-04-2007, 11:22 PM
Hizzy,
If you are speaking of the Museum Place Apts. being built on the rail line, I believe that project is about 5 blocks to the South of this one. Either way, it's GREAT to see things being built on the Red Line. It's about time.
toxteth o'grady
06-05-2007, 04:38 AM
The name escapes me but it is called Casa de Ventra or something like that. I might have murdered the name of the project.
That's okay; that's a name that deserves to die.:whip:
Great_Hizzy
06-05-2007, 04:05 PM
I agree. Sounds convoluted, like they're trying too hard to sound "cool".
Shasta,
Thanks for the clarification. I knew it was somewhere in the Museum District but didn't know how far north. Maybe it's closer to Binz?
weatherguru18
06-06-2007, 04:11 AM
This is interesting...one of the guys I work with today said that the Lexicon (or something like that...a condo development off Allen Parkway) said that it was a Donald Trump development. Did anybody else know this??
toxteth o'grady
06-06-2007, 04:38 AM
I'll bet that's news to Donald Trump.
weatherguru18
06-06-2007, 07:22 AM
Kind of what I was thinking.
weatherguru18
06-09-2007, 10:28 PM
I was driving through downtown today and came across the block that the Shamrock Tower was slated to be built on. Much to my surprise, they have a leasing trailer out front with a big sign on the corner with a picture of the highrise? You sure this project is dead??
Saddle Man
06-10-2007, 02:09 AM
Deader than a door nail. That stuff has been out there for a few years now.
JMancuso
06-10-2007, 03:37 AM
yeah, the shamrock is DOA.
rdavis4559
06-10-2007, 03:09 PM
That trailer has been there for at least 2 1/2 years
Saddle Man
06-10-2007, 04:29 PM
I heard that the trailer is haunted by the ghosts of Houston's architectual past.
c4smok
06-11-2007, 04:13 PM
http://a.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2005/news/ktrk_060707_beatles105.jpg
Beatles going up on I-10 and Shepard
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=5376526
Also Park8 contruction has started off of WestChase - info from TheHAIF
Any Word on City Centre on the Former Shamrock site?
Great_Hizzy
06-11-2007, 04:33 PM
Just the usualy mutterings of what could be. Nothing tangible. Don't hold your breath at this point, even with the office vacancy rate hovering around 9.0%. Not saying it won't happen but it's too far off in the cuff to really worry about.
weatherguru18
06-13-2007, 01:38 AM
For such a booming city, there sure isn't much to talk about. Just a couple of months ago we (Houston) had an article in the NY Times. The Chronicle talked about as many as 6 new downtown highrises. This forum was a buzz about the new uptown projects and now...nothing. We are talking about statues. :shrug:
JMancuso
06-13-2007, 08:42 AM
but they are cool statues. :yes:
rdavis4559
06-13-2007, 10:34 AM
this is just one general thread for all of Houston development and thus is much easier for me to check with how busy I am. HAIF is really much more active and informative since every little project has its own thread and im sure HAIF has a much larger number of users.
Great_Hizzy
06-14-2007, 12:19 AM
Yeah, HAIF gets much more traffic and there's plenty of hub-bub about practically everything. This is more of a summary thread that gets an update maybe once a week or so, generally from Western Gulf, RDavis, Shasta and others.
I try to chip in when I can. ;)
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