Ghost
Sep 8, 2006, 7:35 PM
So I thought that it would be nice to see how this thing is going. Post updates here about deconstruction and possible WTC 5?
Some pics from lowermanhattan.info
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/130_liberty%20feb2006.jpg
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/IMG_4188.jpg
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/tower_can.jpg
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/crane_7-29-06.jpg
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/130_sept%206%202006.jpg
CoolCzech
Sep 8, 2006, 8:17 PM
That there will be SOME new tower on the 5 WTC site is as certain as anything in this life; the only question is: will it be counted as a WTC tower, and will it conform with the Libeskind site plan (which, I guess, would imply a height of 750 or so feet)
When should deconstruction finish, anyway?
NYguy
Sep 9, 2006, 12:43 AM
^
pics taken 9/3/2006
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66285435/medium.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66285486/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66285508/medium.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66285508/large.jpg
Dracmus
Sep 10, 2006, 3:40 AM
all i can say is the sooner they get rid of that building the better. they need to get fiterman hall also...
Stratosphere
Sep 10, 2006, 5:00 AM
Well, there are many buildings in this world that you certainly won't miss them after they're gone. This one is on the top of the list.
Lecom
Sep 10, 2006, 5:03 AM
It doesn't look bad from he street level, looks like a well-done plain black box, but on the skyline it's a pathetic short stub. I remember looking at it back in 2000 and thinking how sad it is that I probably won't live to see this thing come down.
Dale
Sep 10, 2006, 5:08 AM
I read that they're still finding human remains in the building.
*shudders*
KingKrunch
Sep 11, 2006, 3:32 PM
Just found this picture of how it looked like after the towers had fallen:
http://hist.cersp.com/tsls/UploadFiles_2966/200604/20060403200727765.jpg
rich_200
Sep 11, 2006, 10:45 PM
I didn´t know it was so damaged
Dougall5505
Sep 11, 2006, 11:59 PM
same why did they patch it up and not just tear it down?
CoolCzech
Sep 12, 2006, 1:49 AM
The whole building became so infested with dangerous molds and spores that it is cheaper to tear down the building & build a new one than to try to salvage it. Due to asbestos concerns, etc., they can't just implode it (I don't quite get that: projects built in the 60's get blown up all the time - didn't they use asbestos in them, too?).
So does anyone know when the "deconstruction" should finish up?
TechTalkGuy
Sep 12, 2006, 2:11 AM
So does anyone know when the "deconstruction" should finish up?
It was mentioned that the deconstruction will be complete in 2007 (no month was provided).
JManc
Sep 12, 2006, 6:09 AM
The whole building became so infested with dangerous molds and spores that it is cheaper to tear down the building & build a new one than to try to salvage it. Due to asbestos concerns, etc., they can't just implode it (I don't quite get that: projects built in the 60's get blown up all the time - didn't they use asbestos in them, too?).
So does anyone know when the "deconstruction" should finish up?
actually, i think there would be some heightened sensativity to imploding a building right on top of ground zero. plus, i think insurance costs srrounding the implosion would have been prohihibitve
http://www.renewnyc.com/video/05148_Site_Animation_320x240.mov
CoolCzech
Sep 12, 2006, 5:57 PM
Were any people inside the building killed or injured when the Twins collapsed? That gash down the facade sure looks like it could have taken a few people along with it...
JMGarcia
Sep 12, 2006, 7:01 PM
^Although I worked in the WTC on 9/11, I worked for DB which was the sole occupant of 130 Liberty. No one in 130 Liberty was killed.
NewYorkMantle
Sep 16, 2006, 6:53 AM
actually, i think there would be some heightened sensativity to imploding a building right on top of ground zero. plus, i think insurance costs srrounding the implosion would have been prohihibitve
http://www.renewnyc.com/video/05148_Site_Animation_320x240.mov
that's what i said when a friend asked about imploding it. imagine what would go through people's minds as the thing collapses, feet away from the WTC site? (or i guess ON the WTC site, considering that's the future tower 5)
Daquan13
Sep 16, 2006, 2:53 PM
Still doesn't look like the buillding is being removed much at all.
Or is it just me?
rich_200
Sep 16, 2006, 5:22 PM
Still doesn't look like the buillding is being removed much at all.
Or is it just me?
I agree, it appears nothing is going on there
Daquan13
Sep 16, 2006, 11:05 PM
I imagine that this is the way of life for things at Ground Zero
Painfully friggen slow!!
Ghost
Sep 17, 2006, 5:44 PM
^Although I worked in the WTC on 9/11, I worked for DB which was the sole occupant of 130 Liberty. No one in 130 Liberty was killed.
Really?
http://www.renewnyc.com/plan_des_dev/130liberty/faq_130liberty_findings.asp
JMGarcia
Sep 17, 2006, 6:23 PM
:previous:
The remains that have been found at 130 Liberty were mostly on the roof and were from people inside the south tower, not people who worked in 130 Liberty.
Deutsche lost only 2 employees in 9/11 and the were at a meeting with Cantor Fitzgerald in the north tower.
Stratosphere
Sep 17, 2006, 6:49 PM
Wasn't it because this area is so densely built with highrises that they could not implode a building at this height?
Ghost
Sep 17, 2006, 6:54 PM
:previous:
The remains that have been found at 130 Liberty were mostly on the roof and were from people inside the south tower, not people who worked in 130 Liberty.
Deutsche lost only 2 employees in 9/11 and the were at a meeting with Cantor Fitzgerald in the north tower.
Ok, thanks for info. But still it's pretty creepy :sly:
Daquan13
Sep 17, 2006, 10:12 PM
Wasn't it because this area is so densely built with highrises that they could not implode a building at this height?
If the tower was imploded, it would be too dangerous and deadly - mainly because of the concerns for asbestos, mold and mildew spores which had ravaged and contaminated the building after 09-11 because of water damage
and weather.
And yes, the other highrises might have also been the deciding factor. But mainly the cancer-causing asbetos and the mold and meldew lead to the building having to be dismantled piece by piece.
But the height of the tower itself would not have mattered at all. Health concerns were the main issue here.
Ghost
Sep 30, 2006, 12:01 PM
Anything going on there?
Daquan13
Sep 30, 2006, 5:41 PM
Seems to be a very ridiculously painfully slow process in getting the tower dismantled.
What with court delays, ridiculous lawsuits, insurers quibbling over every nickel and dime, and all that stuff.
CoolCzech
Sep 30, 2006, 11:29 PM
Seems to be a very ridiculously painfully slow process in getting the tower dismantled.
What with court delays, ridiculous lawsuits, insurers quibbling over every nickel and dime, and all that stuff.
Too bad there wasn't a good conspiracy in place to bring the damned thing down on 9/12/01, huh?:haha:
Daquan13
Oct 1, 2006, 2:10 PM
Yeah, you'd think that that ugly eyesore would have fallen and 7 WTC remain intact with just minimal damage like the WFC towers once had!!
Ghost
Oct 12, 2006, 4:49 AM
Is there anything going on?
Daquan13
Oct 12, 2006, 8:22 AM
More stalling tactics, it looks like.
They've erected a large crane in front of the building, but so far, nothing else has materialized yet.
Daquan13
Dec 8, 2006, 3:52 PM
It is official now!!
The DBB was on the news early this morning, and the news media says that its dismantling has begun.
Estimated total time for the buiding to be removed is one year.
CoolCzech
Dec 8, 2006, 4:25 PM
Finally. To think even taking down one tower took THIS long.
Oh well... all good things come to those who wait...
Daquan13
Dec 8, 2006, 8:14 PM
One good thing is that as THIS tower slowly comes down, a new one in the northwest corner of Ground Zero will start to rise come this spring and summer - the Freedom Tower!!
So as this dark dismal Relic of the Dinosaur Age has started its demise, we'll see the dawning of a stylish shiny new elegant tower across the way.
TechTalkGuy
Dec 9, 2006, 3:57 AM
Manhattan: Deutsche Bank Demolition to Begin
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: December 8, 2006
Workers will start dismantling the facade of the former Deutsche Bank building today as a prelude to its demolition, which is to begin in January, the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center said yesterday. The building stands opposite ground zero at 130 Liberty Street, and was badly damaged and contaminated on Sept. 11, 2001. The command center said workers would dismantle aluminum column covers and windows at the top of the building, moving down from the 39th floor to the 35th. They will cut up the material and wrap it in plastic for removal from the site.
CoolCzech
Dec 9, 2006, 4:36 AM
Has a developer for the site been identified yet? I'm assuming Silverstein has nothing to do with it...
Daquan13
Dec 9, 2006, 12:44 PM
The spot where this building sits is where Blooper wants a residential tower to be built.
And no, a developer has not yet been named or chosen for that spot. That decision is probably a year away when the building is gone.
And you're right, I, also, don't think Silverstein will have anything to do with it as well.
Even the dismantling process is going to seem awfully friggen slow because the facade has to be broken down in small pieces and then wrapped in plastic so that there is no danger of contamination in the area.
KingKrunch
Dec 9, 2006, 1:10 PM
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/72776527.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBCDA30FAFD681D9B3
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/72776570.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBCE14E92E47EEAF63
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/72776565.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBC6166CEDC05E3E7E
Daquan13
Dec 14, 2006, 3:48 AM
I just heard that the workers had went on a wildcat strike and walked off the site of the tower over a wage dispute.
Any truth to that?
Renton
Dec 15, 2006, 2:45 PM
I just heard that the workers had went on a wildcat strike and walked off the site of the tower over a wage dispute.
Any truth to that?
Yes, It was in the Newark Star Ledger yesterday. You have to laugh as this process at this point. Every couple of months you get thee old= The deconstruction has finally begun!! It hasn't. Only thing new i see from the webcam overlooking the site, is the crane thats now attached to the building. Maybe by next month a beam or two might get removed.
Daquan13
Dec 15, 2006, 10:27 PM
Fire those workers and get some new ones in!!
Oh, I forgot. They're probably union workers.
TechTalkGuy
Dec 17, 2006, 11:17 PM
Update: 12/17/2006
Deutsche Deconstruction
http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/2442/durst1ui8.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8476/durst2am8.jpg
Nowhereman1280
Dec 24, 2006, 7:18 AM
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8476/durst2am8.jpg
O! O! I want to climb the staircase in the scaffolding up the side!
Stratosphere
Dec 28, 2006, 11:55 AM
O! O! I want to climb the staircase in the scaffolding up the side!
It would be a great exercise every morning.:haha:
Daquan13
Dec 29, 2006, 11:54 AM
Imagine having to walk up all those stairs? I'd be dead!! Elevator please.
2-TOWERS
Dec 30, 2006, 6:46 AM
great workout i did the E.S.B.TWICE,THE EASY WAY GOING DOWN, BUT IT WAS FUN.......
Daquan13
Dec 30, 2006, 10:55 AM
Are you ready to try it going up? Haha!!:cheers:
Dracmus
Jan 4, 2007, 12:42 AM
The sooner they get rid of that eyesore and the other 2 eyesores (that small building next to 130 Liberty Street and Fiterman Hole-in-the-wall...er...Hall) the better. Once they are gone/repaired/whatever I would say that the old chapter can finally close for good.
Daquan13
Jan 4, 2007, 2:36 AM
The small bulding next to the DBB, according to what I heard, won't be demolished entirely.
Just some of it. The rest of it will be given a facelift.
NYonward
Jan 5, 2007, 2:07 AM
NY Times
January 4, 2007
Blocks
By DAVID W. DUNLAP
The Building That Wouldn’t Go Away
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/01/04/nyregion/04blocks_lg.jpg
A view of the former Deutsche Bank building, which was damaged and seriously contaminated when the nearby World Trade Center towers fell.
THE dismantling of the Deutsche Bank building will begin this fall and — after careful, systematic deconstruction — it will be gone next year.”
The speaker was Gov. George E. Pataki. The next year was 2005.
He’s gone. The building isn’t.
After a long while in which the demolition deadline at the badly contaminated former Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty Street seemed to be elastic, officials now say its deconstruction by the end of this year is critical to progress at the rest of the World Trade Center site.
“Any delay imperils the overall time schedule that we’ve established,” Deputy Mayor Daniel L. Doctoroff said yesterday.
That means that the 41-story tower will have to start coming down at the rate of almost one floor a week, leaving little margin for further delay.
“We have been given assurances that the building will be down by the end of this year,” said Stephen Sigmund, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, “assurances we are trusting since that is absolutely the latest we can accept in order to meet the Port Authority’s aggressive and accountable timetable.”
Gov. Eliot Spitzer is “confident that the demolition will proceed according to schedule,” his press secretary, Christine Anderson, said. She added that the state “will take every precaution while the search for human remains continues.”
To date, 766 remains have been recovered from the building. The first through fifth floors remain to be searched.
Charles J. Maikish, the executive director of the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center, which has taken over the deconstruction project on what he called an “interim basis” from the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, sounded optimistic.
“The planning, the engineering, the sequencing, the deconstruction method, the environmental controls have all been approved by the regulators and the work is going forward,” he said last week. (In fact, one could look over Mr. Maikish’s shoulder in his 29th-floor office at 1 Liberty Plaza and watch as workers removed aluminum sheathing from the columns at the top of the former bank tower.)
“A floor a week is achievable,” Mr. Maikish said.
But there is at least one big imponderable. The state is negotiating with Bovis Lend Lease, the construction manager for the demolition project, and its subcontractor, the John Galt Corporation. The companies are seeking more money to cover expenses they had not anticipated when they submitted their bid, since the decontamination has proved far more complex and demanding than had been envisioned.
At issue is roughly $30 million in extra expenses and how much of that should be borne by the contractors.
For a few days beginning on Dec. 11, only 15 or 20 of Galt’s workers, about 10 percent of the usual complement, were on the job. The Lower Manhattan Development Corporation called this a walkout and said negotiations would not resume until it ended. By Dec. 15, a full crew was back at work.
About the negotiations, Mary Costello, a senior vice president of Bovis, said yesterday, “Bovis believes that the parties, exercising good faith, can resolve the issue.”
At first glance, it may be hard to see why the fate of the main trade center is so closely linked to an old bank tower one block south. But the sites are tightly linked — underground — through the Vehicular Security Center that the Port Authority plans to build on the south side of Liberty Street, an area now partly occupied by 130 Liberty Street. A series of ramps in this center will lead to the network of subterranean roadways tying the new trade center together.
Before the authority can build the center, it must first construct a reverse bathtub, contained by large slurry walls, to keep the groundwater out. And before it can construct the bathtub, the authority must move a large sewer line that is now under Liberty Street.
The relocated sewer line and part of the slurry wall run about 180 feet through the 130 Liberty Street parcel. To compress work time as much as possible, the authority plans to begin building the sewer line and the slurry wall before the tower is completely demolished, then finish the work once the tower has been razed.
In 2010, a year before the Vehicular Security Center is scheduled to be complete, its ramps are to be used for trucks serving the final phase of construction at Silverstein Properties’ Tower 3 and Tower 4 on the main trade center site. That access is guaranteed by an agreement with Silverstein, which must, in turn, finish the towers by Dec. 31, 2011.
The timetable is tight. So no matter how confident officials sound in public, there are more than enough tenterhooks to go around.
Daquan13
Jan 5, 2007, 4:20 AM
Well, it at least looks like the process has begun.
Let's all hope that there AREN'T any further delays with the project.
Dracmus
Jan 8, 2007, 5:49 AM
Simple process for this. First start with making sure the roof and upper floors have no remains while you are doing all the prep work (this may have been done already). Second, dismantle the building as planned. Use the time to search the first to fifth floor as well. That way things can overlap. Sheesh...
Daquan13
Jan 8, 2007, 6:38 AM
You'd think that would be the easy way to do it, but these bozos don't seem to have the brains God gave a goose!!
Anything that seems to make the most sense, they refuse to do it!!
Dracmus
Jan 9, 2007, 5:28 AM
Yep, I noticed that.
NYonward
Feb 10, 2007, 3:29 PM
NY Times
February 10, 2007
Bank’s Razing at 9/11 Site Will Be Soon, Officials Say
By DAVID W. DUNLAP
In what has become a familiar ritual downtown, officials said yesterday — and this time they really, truly meant it — that demolition would soon begin at the damaged and contaminated former Deutsche Bank building opposite ground zero.
They said that Bovis Lend Lease, which is in charge of dismantling the 41-story bank tower at 130 Liberty Street, must do so by the end of the year under a newly amended contract. That is almost one floor a week.
“I believe we have solved our problem,” Deputy Mayor Daniel L. Doctoroff said yesterday.
Clearing that parcel is now critical to construction progress throughout the World Trade Center site.
Bovis was awarded the $75 million demolition contract in 2005. Preliminary cleanup work at the building stopped several times to address the concerns of environmental regulators and to accommodate the search for human remains.
More recently, with the regulatory coast looking clear, work slowed as Bovis and its subcontractor, the John Galt Corporation, negotiated with the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation over an extra $30 million in pay for the project, which has been far more complex than anticipated. Officials said that sometimes only a fraction of the normal complement of workers was on the job.
On Jan. 29, Gov. Eliot Spitzer and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg intervened personally to break the impasse, summoning executives of Bovis, Galt and Arch Insurance to Gracie Mansion and telling them they could not leave until an understanding was reached.
“The most significant part of the negotiations was the commitment to get the building down on schedule by the end of the year,” said Avi Schick, the downstate chief operating officer and president of the Empire State Development Corporation. The Lower Manhattan Development Corporation is a subsidiary.
Bovis will be paid an additional $9.7 million under the amended contract to account for the project’s complexity. But it risks losing up to $29 million in subsequent payments if it does not complete the demolition on time.
“Yes, this will cost more than we thought,” Mr. Doctoroff said, “but this is not inappropriate, given how the circumstances have clearly changed. The key thing is that the workforce, which had dwindled down to 30, is now above 200 again.”
The imminent demolition of 130 Liberty Street was first promised three years ago, when Gov. George E. Pataki vowed it would come down in 2005.
Daquan13
Feb 10, 2007, 6:24 PM
TalB posted this same story over at SSC.
And I thought they were already on the case, but there's been another stumbling block!
Ghost
Mar 25, 2007, 6:58 PM
Any updates on this? Lowermanhattan.info:s Daily Activities says:
*The following information was last updated on March 2, 2007.
Current activities include:
* Decontamination and abatement continues downward
* Deconstruction operations are underway, and removal of structural steel begins by early March 2007
I mean, it's now end of March... although these rough dates don't appear to be valid (as seen on FT) but they should get cracking if they're going to have this building demolished by Septemper 2007. Or perhaps, is there more bone fragments found ;)
Daquan13
Mar 26, 2007, 3:43 AM
The dismantling will take about a year from start to finish, and I don't think it'll be down by September.
Ghost
Mar 29, 2007, 12:47 PM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070327/capt.11614dff12344f93a542f8ed55af0b9c.correction_toxic_tower_nyml101.jpg?x=232&y=345&sig=zjCWwNwZ8ulMx3pcLrttpw--
Scruffy
Apr 10, 2007, 5:35 AM
its finally noticably coming down.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/Scruffy69/DSC03545.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/Scruffy69/DSC03546.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/Scruffy69/DSC03536.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/Scruffy69/DSC03535.jpg
Daquan13
Apr 10, 2007, 6:26 AM
Yeah, they're removing the facade and windows first.
I think it'll be a painstaking process because every piece of the facade has to be packaged in plastic bags as it is taken off the frame.
This method is to preclude the spread of cancer-causing asbestos in the area.
Great pics, BTW!!
NYguy
Apr 30, 2007, 6:39 PM
Meanwhile, as the debate over what will replace it goes on, the Deutsche Bank building slowly comes down...
www.lowermanhattan.info
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/02_032007_130Liberty_02.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/03_032007_130Liberty_03.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/04_032207_130Liberty_01.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/05_032207_130Liberty_02.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/06_032307_130Liberty_01.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/07_032307_130LibertyA.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/08_032307_130LibertyB.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/09_032307_130LibertyC.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/10_033007_130Liberty_01.jpg
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/11_040407_130Liberty_01.jpg
Daquan13
Apr 30, 2007, 7:44 PM
Looks like what's happening is as a section of the facade is removed, that section of floors and beams are also removed right behind it.
I've always said that if they're going to keep it, then keep it and if they're going to remove it, then remove it. It's high time that they've gotten off that high horse of theirs and have stopped Mickey-Mousing this thing along!
Adyton
May 1, 2007, 3:57 AM
From the looks of those photos, I wouldn't want to be one of the deconstruct workers... you're risking your life working in such a toxic mess:yuck:
They all should get HAZARD pay and lifetime medical coverage for ailments that will manifest years later after breathing in all the toxic combinations of asbestos, dioxins, mold, etc. Oye.....:(
Daquan13
May 1, 2007, 4:08 AM
From the looks of those photos, I wouldn't want to be one of the deconstruct workers... you're risking your life working in such a toxic mess:yuck:
They all should get HAZARD pay and lifetime medical coverage for ailments that will manifest years later after breathing in all the toxic combinations of asbestos, dioxins, mold, etc. Oye.....:(
And I don't see anyone in those pics wearing hazmat suits either.
KingKrunch
May 18, 2007, 9:23 AM
Steel Pipe Falls From Deutsche Bank Building, Crashes Through Firehouse
http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=8&aid=69805
Demolition work at the former Deutsche Bank building was put on hold Thursday morning after a steel pipe fell from the 40-story onto a neighboring firehouse.
The Lower Manhattan Development Corporation says the 15-foot piece of steel fell from the 35th floor of the building, which is in the process of being taken down.
It pierced the roof of the Engine 10 Ladder 10 building, sending debris into the eyes of two firemen.
Authorities say the demolition work caused the steel pipe to come loose.
The building was badly damaged during the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and there were major concerns about tearing it down because of contamination.
The cleanup of the building began in 2005 and workers began dismantling the building late last year.
The injured firefighters have been treated and released.
Renton
May 23, 2007, 11:44 AM
As if these fireman haven't been through enough. Now a reminder of 9/11 comes crashing down into there firehouse.
Daquan13
May 23, 2007, 12:09 PM
And the deconstruction process was halted pending a full investigation into this accident! Get rid of this cancer-causing monster already!
RockMont
May 23, 2007, 8:13 PM
I like the way they are methodically dismantling that building, just by taking it apart, as opposed to demolishing it with a wrecking ball or implosion.
NYguy
Aug 17, 2007, 11:38 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/17/nyregion/17bank.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin
Unbuilding a Skyscraper Wounded on Sept. 11
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/17/nyregion/17bank-600.jpg
David Emil, the president of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, on the 26th floor of 130 Liberty Street.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/17/nyregion/17bank-450.jpg
The Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty Street, its windows replaced with plywood, is being dismantled.
By JAMES BARRON
August 17, 2007
It is, Avi Schick said, like watching a video of a building being built, but in reverse.
Mr. Schick, the chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, was walking through 130 Liberty Street, the building opposite ground zero that was gashed by pieces of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. The building, the New York base of Deutsche Bank at the time, is now being dismantled.
That is different from being demolished. The building is being taken apart almost piece by piece, something demolition experts say has been done before.
What is a first is the complete removal of a building so large and so badly contaminated by hazardous substances. And it is happening under the wary eyes of regulators, neighbors and even the Wall Street types who will someday fill the building that is scheduled to take this one’s place.
So, day after day this summer, workers with acetylene torches are going floor by floor, slicing through the steel beams, the horizontal parts of the building’s skeleton. With help from small tractorlike machines, they are pulling down the beams and the steel columns they are attached to.
Then they are cutting the beams and columns into smaller pieces and loading them into trash-hauling bins that a crane lowers to the street.
Working their way down from the top of what was once a 41-story building, the workers reached the 26th floor on Tuesday morning.
They were cutting into the beams at the southwest corner of that floor, and the two-and-a-half-inch-thick concrete floor slab was vibrating. That was because a mechanical excavator — another tractorlike machine, with a jackhammer mounted on a movable front arm — was breaking through the slab on the southeast corner.
The broken pieces went into another trash-hauling bin and the crane took them away, too. The workers can dismantle one floor every four days or so.
A separate team is working its way through the building, removing the interiors and scrubbing away any contaminants that may remain.
Consultants to the development corporation said more than two years ago that besides asbestos, the building had excessive levels of seven hazardous substances, including dioxin, lead and chromium.
Now those floors have been reduced to their structural elements: naked columns and beams. The walls that once defined offices are gone. So are the plate-glass windows that once looked out on the trade center across the street. So are the wires that connected computers and phones and brought in electricity.
And there was the continuing search for human remains. The chief medical examiner’s office said in February that 766 body parts had been found in the building. Most were fragments of bone less than four inches long.
The long-delayed project got under way in earnest in February. A large construction company, Bovis Lend Lease, won a contract worth $82 million to clear the site, and before that, there was a court fight between Deutsche Bank and its insurers that ended after former Senator George J. Mitchell was called in as a mediator.
The solution was for the development corporation, which is controlled jointly by the state and the city, to buy the building for $90 million.
The federal Environmental Protection Agency approved the plan for dismantling the building last September after reviewing methods for keeping contaminants from being released into the air during the deconstruction.
The E.P.A. action came two months after a deputy commissioner for the city Department of Environmental Protection, Robert C. Avaltroni Jr., began leading meetings every other week with city and state officials and officials from the regional office of the E.P.A. to deal with issues raised by the project. Those meetings continued as Gov. George E. Pataki left office and Gov. Eliot Spitzer took over.
Finally, crews began driving what are called needle beams into the facade. The needle beams anchored the scaffolding, which obscured the building as the interior decontamination, including a top-to-bottom wipe-down, began.
Soon the crews were removing the floor-to-ceiling windows and replacing them with plywood.
Then the project slowed down again, as Bovis and the John Galt Corporation negotiated with the development corporation. They said they wanted an extra $30 million because the project turned out to be more complicated than they had expected it to be. Mr. Schick said the development corporation agreed to advance a total of $38 million toward the cost of finishing the job, with the exact amount to be negotiated — or litigated — later.
What is happening at 130 Liberty Street is certainly different from most demolition projects, where the process is less methodical and the rubble a jumble of steel, concrete, plaster and glass. In some ways, the Deutsche Bank building looks more like a construction site than a demolition site. Scaffolding runs up the outside of the building, as do elevators that are little more than lifts with perforated walls.
On the upper floors, where Mr. Schick and David Emil, the president of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, led their tour, the work is being done by people in hard hats.
That was a sign of progress. The last time a reporter and a photographer were allowed in the building, they had to wear respirators and body suits.
This time, on the 26th floor, there was a grid of steel beams where the floor slab had been removed. And there was the part of the slab that Mr. Schick and Mr. Emil could still walk on, even as the excavator pounded the concrete. “In about 36 months,” Mr. Schick said, “there will be some banker here.”
He and Mr. Emil are determined to finish the disassembly to clear the way for a new building that will house JPMorgan Chase’s investment banking headquarters. “JPMorgan Chase is making a huge bet on our ability to do that,” Mr. Schick said.
Mr. Emil said the removal of the Deutsche Bank building would be finished in “late winter” — that is, in early 2008. But the deal for the additional money for Bovis and John Galt included a bonus if they finish by Dec. 31.
The deconstruction has had its problems. In May, a 22-foot-long metal pipe fell from the 35th floor and smashed through the roof of a nearby firehouse. No one was seriously hurt, but the deconstruction work was halted for about a week while the city reviewed safety precautions.
Mr. Schick said that a Buildings Department inspector is assigned to the building full time, as are inspectors from the E.P.A. and the state Labor Department, who are checking for environmental hazards. He said the work could be halted if they found unexpected debris the size of a dime — in a space not quite as large as an acre.
Twelve monitors that check air quality have been mounted on or near the building.
The last time one went off, Mr. Schick said, it was caused by drilling by Con Edison that had nothing to do with the project.
“This building is unique,” said Mr. Avaltroni, the city environmental official. “It was severely damaged, it had the gash, it had not been dealt with for a period of time, and if you look at it symbolically, it’s very important to get it down. The main objective here is do it right, get it done.”
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On Sept. 11, 2001, the former Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty Street in Lower Manhattan, was damaged by pieces of the World Trade Center. The building, seen here on July 17, is being dismantled. The plywood-enclosed area at the top of the building was in the process of undergoing abatement for asbestos and other hazardous contaminants.
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After abatement is completed, each floor of the building looks like this. The dismantling process represents the first complete removal of a building so large and so badly contaminated. Excessive levels of seven hazardous substances, including asbestos, dioxin, lead and chromium were measured in the building.
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A mechanical excavator worked to break apart one of the building's concrete floors. Water was sprayed to hold down dust. The workers can dismantle one floor about every four days.
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Once the concrete slab and metal decking are removed, what remains is a steel skeleton of each floor.
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Steel beams that framed the horizontal structure of the building were cut away with torches.
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An internal staircase, which served as a fire exit, was one of the last remaining structures on the 27th floor.
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Two skid steer loaders pulled down the bay, which was already cut at the base of each column.
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Within seconds, the whole bay had toppled, landing on the floor slab with a large jolt.
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The same compact loader that pulled the wall down was used to cart away debris for removal by crane.
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A large container filled with debris, seen at left, was hoisted from the roof.
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The container was lowered to a staging area on the south side of Liberty Street.
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An crane waited to unload the container.
CarlosV
Aug 18, 2007, 11:06 PM
August 18, 2007
OMG this site must be cursed!!
a fire broke out today at the Deutsche Bank...:( :( :(
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NYguy
Aug 19, 2007, 4:26 AM
^ And I almost went down there today to get pics. This building has been haunting us since 9/11, and doesn't want to go without inflicting more hurt...
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/18/2-firefighters-are-dead-in-deutsche-bank-fire/index.html?ref=nyregion
‘No Danger’ of Collapse at Deutsche Bank Fire, Mayor Says; 2 Firefighters Are Dead
By Ray Rivera
August 18, 2007
Two firefighters are dead from injuries they sustained fighting a fire at the vacant Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty Street opposite ground zero today, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg confirmed at a news conference this evening. Mr. Bloomberg said the fire was not yet under control but there was “no danger” that the building would collapse.
He identified one of the dead as Firefighter Joseph Graffagnino, 34, of Brooklyn, who had with the department for eight years. The other firefighter was subsequently identified as Robert Beddia, 53, of Staten Island. Both firefighters were from a fire house — Engine 24, Ladder 5 and Battalion 2 — that lost 11 firefighters on Sept. 11, 2001.
The firefighters, in cardiac arrest, were taken to New York Downtown Hospital, where they were pronounced dead. “Sadly today once again two of New York City’s bravest have made the ultimate sacrifice answering the call of duty,” the mayor said after 9 p.m. at a news conference at the hospital.
Mr. Bloomberg added, “As of now the fire is still not under control. The cause of the fire will be investigated by fire marshals as soon as firefighters have extinguished the remaining pockets of fire.”
The mayor was joined at the news conference by Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta; Louis J. Garcia, the chief fire marshal; Frank P. Cruthers, the first deputy fire commissioner; Dr. David J. Prezant, chief medical officer at the Fire Department; Dr. Lee Winter, chief of anesthesiology at the hospital; Stephen J. Cassidy, president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association; and John McDonnell of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association.
Flames tore through several floors of the building this afternoon and evening, sending potentially toxic plumes of smoke over Lower Manhattan in a scene eerily reminiscent of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.
The structure is known to contain asbestos and other toxic materials, but the mayor said: “All the preliminary tests say that there is not any environmental danger.”
Mr. Bloomberg also said:
Air quality and the environmental impact, as you might imagine, are a top concern to us and we are monitoring the situation very closely. We are very much aware about the Lower Manhattan community’s concern about the possible environmental effect regarding the demolition of this building.
Right now, our health experts at the Health Department and the Department of Environmental Protection do not see the need for a frozen zone other than in the immediate area for the purpose of conducting fire and emergency operations but we will continue to monitor air quality as the situation develops. …
Today’s events really are another cruel blow to our city and to the Fire Department and specifically to the house that Engine 24, Ladder 5 and Battalion 2 are in. They are just across the street from the Deutsche Bank building and on Sept. 11, 11 people from this house were killed.
Commissioner Scoppetta said:
This was an especially difficult fire, made especially difficult because that building is under demolition. There was a lot of asbestos abatement going on, being monitored all the time. Civilian employees saw smoke, notified an elevator operator, he discovered fire on the 17th floor, workers all went down with him, and the Fire Department was notified.
We were here in less than three and a half minutes. There were 87 units, 475 firefighters, fight a truly difficult fire, because of the smoke conditions as well as the fire. We had to lift lines from the street, with ropes in order to get it up to the 17th floor, because that building, being under demolition, being in the condition that it is. …
Terrible event, terrible tragedy — that house being hit again makes it all the more devastating.
In discussing the matter further, Mr. Bloomberg said the two firefighters were “found right away” and pulled out of the fire. “Doctors said the level of carbon monoxide is at such an elevated level that it’s not surprising that they went into cardiac arrest. It’s not always fatal. But clearly at that level I am told it is very dangerous.”
He elaborated on the structural integrity of the skyscraper: “We’ve had the Buildings Department in there, they’ve looked at every floor and they are totally satisfied that there is no danger whatsoever. The fire was not that hot. The aluminum decking may melt, but the basic structure of the building, our Buildings Department has said quite explicitly, is secure.”
Bonnie Bellow, a federal spokeswoman for the Environmental Protection Agency, told us:
There are monitors that are in place to monitor any release that could happen as a result of deconstruction of the building. There are four on the 15th floor, four on the ground level, and four on the rooftops of adjacent buildings. At this point, we don’t have information because the Fire Department is still on the scene.
On Friday, The Times published an explanatory article and a slide show about the ongoing dismantling of the building. About 14 floors have already been dismantled.
The Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, which took ownership of the building in August 2004, has a Web site with extensive resources on the building, including past air monitoring results and the plan for deconstructing the building.
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Daquan13
Aug 19, 2007, 5:10 AM
An erie grim reminder of 09-11!!
I wonder if TalB will be there protesting for the Twins to be rebuilt. Haha!!:haha:
Dream'n
Aug 19, 2007, 3:41 PM
What the heck is 9/11 truth now? Is it somehow related to some type of government conspiracy theory? All I can say is come on dude get a life will ya.
Staying on topic. I'm sorry for the families of these firefighters.
CarlosV
Aug 19, 2007, 6:04 PM
http://www.newyorkology.com/archives/images/dbfire.doldman-thumb.jpg
how sad how this site had become a side freak show!!!!!burning tower, dying men...and these fools posing for a snapshot!!!
That damn ugly eye sore should of been demolished/exploded
Weeks after 9/11 instead of dismantling it screw by screw.
Two fire fighters lost their lives for fear that knocking
Down the bank in a few minutes might bring awful memories
Back to local residents. To the residents take a long weekend
Off, blow that stupid building up and stop this method of
Madness.
To Our bravest...REST IN PEACE.
Daquan13
Aug 19, 2007, 8:57 PM
What the heck is 9/11 truth now? Is it somehow related to some type of government conspiracy theory? All I can say is come on dude get a life will ya.
Staying on topic. I'm sorry for the families of these firefighters.
I got a life, dude. Don't start with that goddamn conspiracy theory crap about 09-11 again. You put yourself in hot water because of that before!
And don't come back here looking for another excuse to fight again.
Ghost
Aug 20, 2007, 4:42 AM
http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=4110926&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1001 http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=4110923&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1001
Firefighter Joseph Graffagnino and Firefighter Robert Beddia. They gave their lives fighting the Deutsche Bank fire.
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NYguy
Aug 20, 2007, 11:40 AM
More photos from the NY Times...
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/08/19/nyregion/20070819_FIRE_SLIDESHOW_index.html
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Daquan13
Aug 20, 2007, 12:55 PM
I wouldn't want that job for all the tea in China!!!
Tatimas
Aug 20, 2007, 5:41 PM
Looks like huge flames from more than one floor. I thought the buildning pretty much was stripped down to concrete and steal. But there seems to still be some wood and other stuff in there that can catch fire. Maybe also gas tanks and fuel for the machines used to dismantle the building.
Too bad that two people had to die in a buildning that was "empty" I mean firefighters sometimes get injured or killed trying to save buldings where people live and maybe also trapped in during fire, but this was so unnecessary.
Lecom
Aug 20, 2007, 6:00 PM
^All that plywood should make for great burning material, so there you go.
NYguy
Aug 22, 2007, 12:09 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08222007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/wtc__past__future__halted_agai.htm
WTC, PAST & FUTURE: HALTED AGAIN?
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Fatal: The Deutsche Bank building burns last weekend.
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August 22, 2007 -- NEW Yorkers who care passionately about the future of the World Trade Center site - those who understand that Downtown's fate still depends on that, despite the area's current boom - can only pray for a swift resumption of work at 130 Liberty St., where two firefighters lost their lives last weekend.
More of Ground Zero's rebirth than first seems apparent depends on the complete demolition of the old Deutsche Bank tower. Common sense, however, suggests that it might be a long time - not just a few days or even weeks - before the takedown of the tragic, contaminated hulk can resume.
If the delay drags on, there's no telling how badly it might derail the reclamation of a site that has taken six years to gain traction.
The importance of the Liberty Street demolition was explained in detail by The New York Times' David W. Dunlap last winter. For starters, the site must be cleared before the LMDC can turn it over to the Port Authority, which will then hand it over to JP Morgan Chase to start work on its planned new headquarters tower there.
The PA technically has until mid-2009 to turn the land over to the bank - but that's based on an option to extend a more desirable deadline of mid-2008. Who can say how JP Morgan's confidence in the deal might be jarred by a year's delay?
The Deutsche site, as Dunlap explained, is also intricately linked to conditions on the north side of Liberty Street in Ground Zero itself. In a nutshell, the PA can't fulfill its commitment to construct new underground infrastructure there without first having access to the earth beneath 130 Liberty St., because the two sites are connected by sewer pipes.
Without being able to dig under 130 Liberty St. and moving the pipes, the PA can't create a new "bathtub" along Ground Zero's south side. Without the bathtub, it can't build an underground vehicle security center there. And without the vehicular facility, Dunlap pointed out, it can't provide the truck access Larry Silverstein will need to complete the interiors of Towers 3 and 4 - the first two of three office buildings he is to develop in Ground Zero, and on which he is to start work immediately after Jan. 1.
In fact, a downtown rebuilding official ominously told me yesterday, "Not having the vehicle security center will negatively affect everything - not just Silverstein's buildings, but also the Freedom Tower, the Memorial and the new PATH terminal."
PA officials say the delay at 130 Liberty St. won't affect its construction of a new east bathtub wall, which it's obliged to finish by Dec. 31; assuming they're right, Silverstein can at least start on Towers 3 and 4 on time.
But - and here's the scary part - the PA must also finish the south bathtub by the fourth quarter of 2010, according to agency spokesman John McCarthy. A prolonged delay in completing the removal of 130 Liberty St. - which seems highly likely, given the time it will surely take to learn what went wrong and to implement new safety procedures - can easily push the south bathtub job back.
That looming possibility can throw monkey wrenches into the whole process.
Both the PA and Silverstein are contractually bound to meet various deadlines, and must pay heavy fines if they fail to meet them. But what if circumstances make meeting those deadlines impossible?
Why, for example, should the PA be penalized for not completing the south bathtub on time if it's physically impossible to do that because 130 Liberty St. hasn't been fully cleared yet?
Why should Silverstein start construction on a giant tower without assurance that he'll be able to finish it?
A well-informed downtown source says Silverstein could, in theory, complete Towers 3 and 4 by letting trucks in through Church Street. But that limited access would be insufficient to allow tenants to build out their new floors or move in.
Why should tenants sign leases when they can't be sure when they can claim their space?
These questions, assuming a worst-case chain of events, might sound paranoid. But Ground Zero's tortured history makes paranoia justified. Let us hope all parties find a way not to let 130 Liberty St. become any more permanent than it already seems.
Daquan13
Aug 22, 2007, 5:29 PM
This is nuts!!
How many damn times does THIS make now? That this hunk of junk's deconstruction has been stopped?
They need to try to find out who that careless worker was who was smoking,
fire his butt and charge him for involuntary manslaughter!!!
Let's see, it was haulted because of;
1. Bone fragments were found.
2. More bone fragments were found again.
3. A pipe fell through the roof of a nearby fire station.
4. Now this - an inexcusable deadly fire.
5. And if that's not enough, to put the icing on the cake, a careless operator of a small forklift
causes a section of the scalfolding to fall!!! What's next?
CitySkyline
Aug 22, 2007, 7:33 PM
Call me an optimist, but I don't see the fire causing too much of a delay. Considering how much is at stake, I imagine that the high-level people (e.g., Governor, etc.) will push to have the investigation done quickly and then they'll go back to work on the demolition. I'd guess at most there'll be a 1 or 2 month delay, which all things considered, isn't that big of a delay.
Daquan13
Aug 22, 2007, 8:39 PM
That means that there'll be 1 or 2 months longer that this ugly monstrocity will be standing!:hell:
Daquan13
Aug 22, 2007, 8:41 PM
(Edit)
WonderlandPark
Aug 23, 2007, 7:44 PM
Jeebus this building is CURSED!
NY Times:
Construction Accident at Deutsche Bank Building
A piece of heavy equipment being used to work on the problem-plagued Deutsche Bank building, which suffered a fire on Saturday, fell this afternoon, injuring two firefighters, city officials said.
Work to demolish the building, located across the street from the World Trade Center and damaged in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, had been halted after Saturday’s fire, which killed two firefighters. But a small coterie of workers was still there today to shore up the damaged and condemned building, remove debris and contain toxic material when the accident occurred just before 2 p.m., fire officials said.
CarlosV
Aug 23, 2007, 8:48 PM
OMG THE HORROR CONTINUES!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=72898
August 23, 2007
At least two firefighters were injured this afternoon when construction equipment being used at the Deutsche Bank building fell to the ground, hours after crews began doing remedial work on the building following Saturday’s deadly fire.
The Empire State Development Corporation said that around 2:15 p.m. a pallet jack fell from the 23rd floor of the building and struck a temporary shed. The two firefighters were injured as they were walking in the safety perimeter around the building.
All work on the site has been halted and all workers have been removed from the site.
Sources tell NY1 that the construction equipment likely fell from an outside elevator or hoist that was carrying it up the north side of the building.
The firefighters were taken to Saint Vincent's Medical Center – one with head injuries. The other is said to have sustained minor injuries. They are both said to be in stable condition.
Preliminary reports indicated that several construction workers were also injured, but that information has not been confirmed.
Demolition work at the WTC site skyscraper was suspended after the tragic fire that killed firefighters Robert Beddia and Joseph Graffagnino on Saturday, but remedial work began this morning on the south side of the building between the 20th and 26th floors to remove debris and contain toxic material inside the building to make the site safe.
Residents in the area have long complained about the safety of the site.
"The building probably should have come down at least three years ago, but because of money and insurance it has remained,” said neighborhood resident Andy Jurinko. “I live probably 75 feet from the Deutsche bank. I go in and out of the entrance way every day, walking past the Deutsche Bank… It has been treacherous. It's been a disastrous area for the last six years."
Earlier today, residents who live near the building were advised to keep their windows closed while the remedial work was being performed.
A spokesman for the ESDC said crews began work this morning to make the site safe.
E-mails and calls were put out to residents advising them to close their windows in case of flying debris. The ESDC says people should not be concerned about air quality.
Before any work could begin, crews had to receive clearance from the Fire Department and the Department of Buildings because a stop-work order is still in effect, meaning demolition cannot take place. Before today’s incident, remedial work was expected to go on for several days.
Nearby residents say they've become accustomed to these types of problems living in the area.
"It's just a little inconvenience,” said one resident. “We can't drive through the neighborhood, and we’ve got to go through the checkpoints. But other than that, there's really no problems at all.”
“It's not too bad. I have to come in the back door, which isn't too difficult,” added another. “The only annoying thing is there's no access to the front. But other than that, it's not too bad."
The investigation into what caused Saturday's blaze continues. FDNY records show that the last time a comprehensive inspection was done on the failed standpipe system was back in March of 2005. According to department regulations, standpipes in buildings being demolished are to be inspected every 15 days.
The city has also admitted that it did not have a plan to fight a fire in the building, even though one is required to stay up to code.
The sub-contractor in charge of demolition has been fired. The John Galt Company was declared in default of its contract by the site's contractor.
The city says the building had a history of violations from the Department of Buildings, including several fines this year for failure to properly remove combustible material and debris.
The Manhattan district attorney's office and the state attorney general are both investigating the fire.
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Daquan13
Aug 23, 2007, 11:16 PM
I think OSHA seriously needs to step in and lay the smackdown on whoever is in charge of this work, because it seems as though people are getting away with some serious and dangerous violations here!!
Austin55
Aug 24, 2007, 3:07 PM
wow,this is crap.I will be glad to see all of it end!
JManc
Aug 24, 2007, 3:15 PM
why don't they just implode the rest of it?
Daquan13
Aug 24, 2007, 5:42 PM
They can't do it that way because imploding it would STILL pose a health hazard should there still be any lingering asbestos, mold, mildew and/or other airborne toxins.
Then the city or the co. in charge of the demolition work might have heavy lawsuits on there hands from affected families.
That, in turn, might start a chain reaction. Stuff would start being hallted and Ground Zero's rebuild might come to a screeching halt.
As the goat in the Geico commercial says; "Nah,nah, nah!!" Can't have that. It could also contaminate new construction there.
andydie
Oct 3, 2007, 12:43 AM
Any news if or when they will restart the demolition again? Thanx
Daquan13
Oct 3, 2007, 10:10 AM
Haven't heard anything on that yet. I'm waiting for the news to break on it myself.
pattali
Jan 4, 2008, 1:20 PM
the buiding demolition ...
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Daquan13
Jan 5, 2008, 10:02 PM
Have they resumed the demo work yet?
Ghost
Jan 6, 2008, 6:56 AM
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/130_liberty_street__77170.aspx
Deconstruction operations are on hold at the 40-story building at 130 Liberty Street as of August 18, 2007, following a fire on the building's 13th to 18th floors. Currently, the tower is deconstructed to the 26th floor.
nickkoto
Jul 18, 2008, 7:19 AM
If anyone was curious, here's a not-so-new update.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/06/26/2008-06-26_deutsche_bank_demolition_will_cost_more_.html
westmc9th
Aug 7, 2010, 10:28 PM
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NYC4Life
Aug 8, 2010, 12:03 AM
How many floors are left to be dismantled?
GioFX
Oct 4, 2010, 7:30 PM
about 5, according to the latest PA report:
*The following information was last updated on October 1, 2010.
Deconstruction:
* Deconstruction of the building is now on floors 5 and 6, moving downward.
* A mobile crane is now parked on Washington St between Albany and Cedar Streets for steel removal
* The projected end date for deconstruction is December 2010/January 2011.
* Contractor Bovis is now working double shifts, weekdays from 7:30 am to midnight
* Contractor Bovis Lend Lease resumed deconstruction November 16, 2009.
* Building abatement concluded in November 2009.
* LMDC posted the approved Implementation Plan for Deconstruction and the Environment, Health, Safety and Emergency Action Plan, at http://www.renewnyc.com/plan_des_dev/130liberty/deconstruction_plan.asp
Any pictures?
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