[DenverMatty]

Has anyone read or seen this? Doesn't sound like good news...

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/09/dnc_08_start_sp_1.html

September 13, 2006
DNC '08: Start Spreading The...

straw.gif Could the Democratic National Convention return to New York City in 2008?

According to party sources and other Democrats who have consulted with members of the party's selection committee, NYC and Minneapolis-St. Paul are right outside the winners’ circle. NYC is said to have an edge -- at least for now.

The site selection committee had high hopes for Denver, located in a blinking-blue Mountain West state with a growing Hispanic population. But one Democrat briefed on the city's presentation and bid called it "disastrous." Others confirmed that the general impression among site selection members of Denver was not positive. The city also lacks a union hotel, and even though the city’s labor leaders voted to table its outrage, it remains an obstacle.

The party will choose its site by the end of the year.

The Twin Cities' bid meets the party’s nominal requirements, but several Democrats involved in the process worry about extended commutes from delegate hotels to events.

Democratic donors, irate at the Republican Party’s 2004 fete in their city, have urged the party to choose New York. And that city’s bid has been the most impressive. One part of its presentation to the DNC consisted of a “lessons learned” discussion about the 2004 convention.

One unanticipated concern: the resolve of television networks to scale down their convention coverage. Holding the show in New York City would dramatically reduce the costs.

Some Democrats worry about the symbolism of choosing New York City over Minnesota and question whether the party will acquiesce to the cultural elitism of its donors. Others suggest that Sen. Hillary Clinton wouldn’t want to hold her nominating convention in her home state. But that concern is not widely shared among Democrats close to Sen. Clinton.

In New York today, a gaggle of party heavyweights are meeting at City Hall with Mayor Mike Bloomberg’s political strategist Kevin Sheekey to plot out their final persuasive push. They include Chung Seto, the former exec. dir of the New York State Democratic party, DNC member Emily Giske, Josh Wachs, an NBA official who worked under Terry McAuliffe at the DNC, and Gigi Georges, a former aide to Hillary Clinton. Madison Square Garden’s Shari Yost and top AFL-CIO official Suzy Ballantyne are representing their organizations.

The convention begins Aug. 25, 2008. [MARC AMBINDER]

Posted at 03:37 PM


Daily Kos's Take on this:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/13/231430/034

Come on Denver, get your act together.

Get the frackin' convention out of the coasts. I know many Democrats forget that there's a whole lot of country in between the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, but that's no reason for the site selection committee to make that same mistake.

Big money New York Democrats, especially, are some of the worst. They back people like Lieberman and Bloomberg and think the universe revolves around NYC.

The networks will scale back coverage of the convention whether it's in Minneapolis, Denver, or NYC. The parties have killed conventions by scripting them to death. There is no drama, no compelling storylines. So the networks take a pass. I can't blame them.

So go somewhere where the local coverage will actually, you know, help. Colorado is a purple state moving our direction. Minneapolis is a blue state threatening to go purple. We get nothing out of having it in indigo-Blue New York.

(And to those wondering why New Orleans isn't in the mix -- the city withdrew its bid. It's not ready yet for an event of this magnitude yet.)

[PHX31]

Too bad for the Mountain West.

If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, dems might as well not even hold a convention.

[InfillJunkie]

Disastrous? WTF?

[glowrock]

Disastrous? WTF?

Sounds like big union DNC money is refusing to leave the friendly confines of NYC... :(

Aaron (glowrock)

[wong21fr]

Yeah, and the union's have been such a big help to the Dems the past few years. You got to know when to move a group towards the back and out of the spotlight.

[joeindt]

Oh and we're supposed to take all this stuff serious? :rolleyes: It's not like the DEMS have made a good decision about anything for the past 6 years. They are just up to what they do best, 2nd guessing themselves.

Too bad though for Denver or Minne.

[bunt_q]

Seriously, I thought for sure that NYC would be a distant 3rd... what do the Dems gain by that? But as somebody said, the party is run by morons. That's okay though... honestly, I'd rather Republicans in Washington than here in Colorado. If we can turn state government and our reps blue, the Republicans can have the white house. I have no problem with the coasts (and by extension, the country) getting what they deserve. Let the coasts rot in their own arrogance, honestly... The democrats do not have the slightest clue how to win a national race.

[InfillJunkie]

Buntie your anger is sexy.

just kidding

[Giovoni]

Democrats at the national level are the Dan Reeves of politics....

WooHooo!! lets keep doing exactly what we've been doing for the last 12 years and expect a different result!!!

[BroncoCSU05]

Democrats at the national level are the Dan Reeves of politics....




quote of the year!

[bunt_q]

Awesome :)

(And I am not angry, I'm annoyed... they are different, dangit. I don't want to have to vote against Hillary.)

[TwasBrillig]

Hey guys,

According to Democratic Convention Watch, Denver is still in it.
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/

I really hope it goes to Denver.

[Ribeye]

Sounds like the Dems are trying to push for the Hyatt to become Union and hold the convention as the carrot. Who knows if it's all a bluff, but it'd be "disastrous" if it came out later that the Union issue was a major reason that the Dems didn't come in '08. Talk about losing a purple state back to solid red... yeah, just tell us you don't want to come because we're not pro-union and see how the state responds...

[wong21fr]

Especially since the workers do not want to become union, at least not yet. Guess freedom of choice doesn't apply to the Democrats or the Republicans.

[Giovoni]

Democrats and Republicans both want us to be able to be free to chose whatever we want..



from a list that they make.

[bunt_q]

Quit fighting the system gentlemen... accept it, embrace it, become a part of it, and profit handsomely!

[Giovoni]

The AP is reporting that the republicans have decided to hold their convention in Minneapolis/St Paul which leaves Denver and New York in the fray for the Dems convention. I'm not sure what logic would make the Dems chose New York but I'm often not sure what logic they ever use for anything so I'm not getting my hopes up TOO high. No way this can be anything but good news for Denver as of right now though.

Here's the article from the Denver Post's website:


GOP deal good for Denver's DNC bid
By Liz Sidoti
The Associated Press





Downtown Denver. (Post / John Leyba)

Washington - Republicans have chosen the Twin Cities of Minneapolis-St. Paul for the 2008 presidential convention, GOP officials said today.

The selection was expected to be announced later today, said the Republican sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The GOP's decision has bolstered Denver's chances at getting the 2008 Democratic National Convention. The Democrats' request for proposal forbids a city from hosting both party's conventions, so the GOP has eliminated the city many were considering as the frontrunner for the Democratic convention.

Denver would now be only one of two finalists, along with New York, for the Democratic convention.

The choice of the Twin Cities would provide a major political punch for the GOP, capturing the media markets in Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota - all battleground states in the 2004 election.

Losing out were New York City, Cleveland and a joint bid from Tampa and St. Petersburg, Fla., cities that had sought the GOP convention.

The four-day event will be held at the Xcel Energy Center in St.

Paul, Minn., home of the hockey team.

The Twin Cities also are in the running for the Democratic national convention.

The Democrats plan to hold their convention Aug. 25-28, 2008, and the Republicans will meet a few days later on Sept. 1-4.

The Democrats, who last met in Boston, will announce a decision later this fall. A spokesman said 11 sites expressed interest in having the party's convention, but only four completed the proposals. New Orleans later withdrew its bid, leaving Denver, New York City and Minneapolis-St. Paul.
The GOP held its last convention in New York City, where GOP delegates nominated President Bush for a second term.

The last national convention in the Twin Cities was in 1892, when the GOP backed President Benjamin Harrison in an unsuccessful re-election bid.

Post staff writer George Merritt contributed to this report.

[Giovoni]

damn double post!!

[bunt_q]

Wow... that's good news I guess. In a way, it's a shame, because the Twin Cities probably would have been as-good or better for the Democrats than we will be, but for Denver.... hell, they'd be fools to not come here now.

[bcp]

nice....it would be suprising if they did nyc since they absolutely have that state wrapped up already.....a west convention could tip NM, CO and maybe AZ? WY? ha ha..

[wong21fr]

Nah, that would mean that the Dems actually have common sense and a strategic plan for the '08 elections.

[DenverMatty]

they hadn't expected the GOP to announce a city until January... once again the republicans show how being sneaky and delivering a knock-out blow ahead of time can make a big difference... this is what the democrats are up against and i don't expect them to deliver... but maybe they'll surprise us and pick Denver... i'm not holding my breath is all...

[glowrock]

They'll pick NYC so Hillary can officially become the nominee in her "home" state... ;)

Aaron (Glowrock)

[comoneymaker]

Im sure it will stay in NYC...alot more people, money, and attention there.

[glowrock]

Im sure it will stay in NYC...alot more people, money, and attention there.

By people who were already die-hard Dems already. Brilliant strategy... :no:

Aaron (Glowrock)

[bunt_q]

alot more people, money, and attention there.

And no additional electoral votes. A fabulous strategy for beating the party of the people with money. Is it possible that the Democrats are actually more out of touch with the common man - the man they profess to represent - than the party that openly doesn't give a damn?

[glowrock]

Yes, it's absolutely possible, Brent. Right now, the Dems should be far and away the front-runners in almost every damn race right now because of the Reps complete stupidity, but that's not the case as it stands today. The Dems are quite possibly the most inept organization this nation has ever known right now. Sad, sad indeed. :(

Aaron (Glowrock)

[InfillJunkie]

Hyatt workers approve union
By George Merritt
Denver Post Staff Writer

Workers at the Hyatt Regency Denver at Colorado Convention Center have formed a union, organizers reported today.

The city-bonded Hyatt has been the focus of union and political attention since organized labor voted earlier this year to oppose Denver's bid for the 2008 Democratic National Convention unless the hotel was unionized.

Labor groups have formally pulled their opposition to Denver's bid, but today's announcement only bolsters the city's bid for the convention.

Katie Gerken, the spokeswoman for Unite Here which led the effort to organize the hotel, said the Hyatt formally recognized the new union this morning.

[TwasBrillig]

Yea Denver! Having the Democratic convention in Denver will rock the electoral map. Since Twin Cities were selected for the GOP convention, I think it is even more crutial that the Dems hold theirs in the heartland. Hopefully this is the nail in the coffin for NYC's bid.

[bcp]

dang that was fast...

[Giovoni]

yeah that WAS fast

[soonermeteor]

This should make Denver the easy choice now.....right? The problem for our bid before was this silly union issue, but now that it has been solved AND the GOP has taken MSP, we should be the shoe-in.

[glowrock]

I don't like the fact that this union organization seems to have pretty much been under thread of duress... Regardless, I guess I'm glad it makes it just that much easier for the Dems to pull their heads out of their asses and pick Denver for the 08 Convention!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[InfillJunkie]

Well if they don't I might have to go Independent. And, that would cause a cataclysmic paradigm shift throwing off the balance of universal parabolic balances that would usher in the Armageddon and destroy life as we know it.

[navyweaxguy]

I love the upbeatness of that post ^

[InfillJunkie]

^ I love trouncing your head with my shoes!

[Denver Bear]

come on over to the green side junkie.....

[InfillJunkie]

^ Do I get a free gift if I do? ;)

[Denver Bear]

your free gift is a guilt free conscious and a sense of self satisfaction (and no not THAT kind of self satisfaction :haha:)

[navyweaxguy]

^ lol IJ already has green in him... and blue, yellow, red, indigo, orange, and violet :D

[Giovoni]

I'll join for a toaster.. my old one broke

[BroncoCSU05]

i'll give you a toaster to avoid going green...

[Denver Bear]

but Bronco, is it solar powered? :D

[BroncoCSU05]

it's powered by dead babies

[Denver Bear]

oh I love stem cells....

[Giovoni]

it needs to be powered by ground up caribou from ANWR

[Denver Bear]

but there aren't any how many ground up caribou from ANWR does it take to paint a house jokes......

[PLANSIT]

From RMN

Top Dems endorse Denver convention

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By Daniel J. Chacon, Rocky Mountain News
October 5, 2006
Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and three other Democratic U.S. senators are backing Denver's bid to host their party convention in 2008.

Reid and Senators Ken Salazar of Colorado, Max Baucus of Montana and Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico wrote a letter to Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, endorsing the Mile High City.

"We believe the West to be the ideal setting for Democrats to showcase the strength, character and vision of our party and our Presidential nominee," the senators wrote in the letter, dated Sept. 26.

Last week, the Republican National Committee chose Minneapolis-St. Paul to host their presidential-nominating event in 2008, leaving Denver to compete against only New York City for the Democratic convention.

Two days later, Denver's chances to host the convention got even better. The city lacked a union hotel, but hotel workers at the Hyatt Regency Denver announced Friday they had unionized.

[InfillJunkie]

Denver's convention hopes leap skyward
Print By Daniel J. ChacC3n, Rocky Mountain News
November 9, 2006

A Democratic resurgence in the Rocky Mountain West on Election Day is giving Denver high hopes of landing the 2008 party convention.
"This morning the sun is reflecting bright blue from all corners of the northeast, but it is also very, very blue out here, and we think that is a great message and a great stage for the potential (presidential) nominee," Debbie Willhite, executive director of the Denver 2008 Host Committee, said Wednesday.

The Democratic National Committee is expected to announce by December whether it's Denver or New York City that will host the presidential-nominating bash.

At a news conference in Washington, D.C., Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean said he's still negotiating with both cities.

But local Democrats say Denver has a great chance of winning.

"I believe the people who are making the decisions are looking at Colorado and looking at the West as the future of the country," Colorado Democratic Sen. Ken Salazar said.

"Given the role that I expect (Senate leader Harry Reid of Nevada) to play in the next two years, and his strong support for bringing the convention to Colorado, I feel very good about our chances," he said.

Colorado and its neighbor states - New Mexico, Nevada, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona and Idaho - are considered key battlegrounds in the race for the White House.

Western states have become a showcase for a new breed of Democratic leaders who have won over voters in America's heartland, which has long been considered Republican turf.

Consider this: Five of the eight Western states now have Democratic governors. Before 2002, all were Republican.

And in Tuesday's election, Colorado, which has more registered Republicans and unaffiliated voters than Democrats, picked a Democratic governor and elected a Democrat to a House seat that had been occupied by the GOP.

For the first time in nearly a half-century, Democrats control the Governor's Mansion as well as the state legislature.

"Part of our argument from Day 1 has been that the Rocky Mountain West is really the new frontier for the Democratic Party, and what we saw (Tuesday) night was reaffirmation of the fact that the future for the Democrats lies in the West," said Dan Slater, first vice chair of the state Democratic Party and a member of the host committee.

"It's becoming clear, I think, to the Democrats nationally that they've got to kind of realign themselves and start looking West in terms of electoral victories," he said.

Willhite echoed that sentiment.

"The purpose of a national convention is to introduce your nominee officially to the country and to the world," she said.

"We think it is a stronger political statement to do that in a region of the country that is turning more and more to the Democrats for leadership, locally and statewide and in the House and in the Senate."

chacond@RockyMountainNews.com or 303-954-5099

[blm3034L!fe]

WOOHOO. Good Stuff for Denver indeed! :D

I wonder who the Democratic Presidential Candidate will be? wwwwhat about Hillary R. Clinton? She's got my vote. :yes: John Kerry would probably not be ideal candidate IMHO. Especially being toiled by an IQ of the likes of Bush the last time around. Ouch. :frog: Who knows for sure? :shrug:

[glowrock]

WOOHOO. Good Stuff for Denver indeed! :D

I wonder who the Democratic Presidential Candidate will be? wwwwhat about Hillary R. Clinton? She's got my vote. :yes: John Kerry would probably not be ideal candidate IMHO. Especially being toiled by an IQ of the likes of Bush the last time around. Ouch. :frog: Who knows for sure? :shrug:

Can I PLEASE vote for None of the Above on this one? Neither Hillary nor Kerry should be the nominee, period.

Aaron (Glowrock)

[Giovoni]

why not Hillary... she can choose Obama for VP .. perfect ticket.

[Agent Orange]

I don't know, I think there are a lot of conservatives and moderates who would consider voting for Obama, but not for Hillary (like me.)

[Front_Range_Guy]

I think most Americans have a negative view of Hillary. I have a hard time believing she could win.

I think a Bill Richardson, Barack Obama ticket might play well.

[SunflowerStater]

As someone from the Left, Hillary doesn't appeal to me too much either--she's just another Kerry--working so hard to appeal to the right that she doesn't have her own identity. She still can't even come out against the Iraq war after that won the election this year for the Dems. Of course, despite that reality, she is painted as an "extreme liberal" by some of the media because she's a woman. See Nancy Pelosi for another example. Anyway that is OT...

I really hope Denver can figure out how to pull this one off. Colorado and the West really is the new frontier for the Democrats. They own the NE already, so why waste their time by alienating the rest of America. Colorado is still considered heartland by most people. It would fit in perfectly with Howard Dean's 50 state strategy.

[InfillJunkie]

As much as I loved the duo of Hill and Bill, I don't think she'd make a good candidate selection. As stated above she is viewed as being way too liberal.

[bunt_q]

Richardson - Obama...I like Bill Richardson a lot. I like Obama more, but I am worried the experience issue will plague him... so this appeals to me. Do you think it'll be a problem, however, that Richardson lived in Mexico until he was 13? I can see the Republicans exploiting the lack of "traditional American values" in that ticket.

No on Hillary... boo Hillary.

Vilsack, he'd be good, but nobody has heard of him and his name is not presidential. We need short, British-sounding names!

Anybody else see the anti-Obama letter in this week's Time magazine? Some fool from Texas saying that a mixed-race child with an al Qaeda sounding name could never win because he couldn't win the South. Umm, hello, we take Ohio, we can say screw the South.

[Paulopolis]

Enough men already. We've screwed things up enough. Let's get some women in power!

[bunt_q]

Give me a woman who can win and I'm on board... but right now, there are none. Start small... get a few more women Governors and women in Congress...get some more name recognition and experience... then we can talk about the Presidency.

[joeindt]

Give me a woman who can win and I'm on board... but right now, there are none. Start small... get a few more women Governors and women in Congress...get some more name recognition and experience... then we can talk about the Presidency.

Start small, like girl scout cookies.. 4H.. interesting. Join me as we Journey into the chauvonistic mind of bunt, won't you? :)

[glowrock]

Richardson - Obama...I like Bill Richardson a lot. I like Obama more, but I am worried the experience issue will plague him... so this appeals to me. Do you think it'll be a problem, however, that Richardson lived in Mexico until he was 13? I can see the Republicans exploiting the lack of "traditional American values" in that ticket.

No on Hillary... boo Hillary.

Vilsack, he'd be good, but nobody has heard of him and his name is not presidential. We need short, British-sounding names!

Anybody else see the anti-Obama letter in this week's Time magazine? Some fool from Texas saying that a mixed-race child with an al Qaeda sounding name could never win because he couldn't win the South. Umm, hello, we take Ohio, we can say screw the South.

I like the idea of a Richardson/Obama ticket as well, honestly. I respect Richardson, and Obama is definitely a new, fresh face to the party, no doubt about it.

Aaron (Glowrock)

[Giovoni]

Anybody else see the anti-Obama letter in this week's Time magazine? Some fool from Texas saying that a mixed-race child with an al Qaeda sounding name could never win because he couldn't win the South. Umm, hello, we take Ohio, we can say screw the South.

ugh good to see Bigotry is still healthy and thriving in America... and good to see Time gave it a voice. Can't we just say screw the south now?

[joeindt]

.

[bunt_q]

Start small, like girl scout cookies.. 4H.. interesting. Join me as we Journey into the chauvonistic mind of bunt, won't you? :)

So Americans shouldn't elect a man with no experience, but it's ok if it's a woman... presidential affirmative action of sorts? I like that, yeah... Look, it's not *my* fault there are, what, a half dozen women in the House and Senate, and maybe the same who are governors?... And frankly, some experience along those lines is absolutely necessary before you can have a viable presidential candidate. Condi? Yeah, maybe... she's probably more electable than Hillary.

[bcp]

is richardson a naturalized citizen? if so...it's a moot point...

if any woman has a chance...it would be Condi IMO.

[bunt_q]

dbl

[bunt_q]

He was born in California, so that's not an issue...

[joeindt]

So Americans shouldn't elect a man with no experience, but it's ok if it's a woman... presidential affirmative action of sorts? I like that, yeah... Look, it's not *my* fault there are, what, a half dozen women in the House and Senate, and maybe the same who are governors?... And frankly, some experience along those lines is absolutely necessary before you can have a viable presidential candidate. Condi? Yeah, maybe... she's probably more electable than Hillary.

Well I was mostly teasing but consider the hick, the governator, jesse the body, all have no experience and have done well and you kind of lost me.. but I get the drift.
obama is 'so' refreshing because he had no experience..

[bunt_q]

I know you were kidding, but it's a real problem... None of those people are Presidents. There's a big, big difference between mayor of Denver or governor of some state, even California, and the most powerful person on the planet. Whether it *actually* matters or not is irrelevant... lack of experience is a political liability and costs votes.

[FrancoRey]

To those of you who don't want Hillary as a president, just picture this: An enthused, giddy Bill Clinton walking into the White House entrance: raising both his arms in the air, and with his exorbant, scratchy voice, he bellows:

"I'M BAAACK BITCHES!!!"

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PF/PF_991041_OEM_15MB~Bill-Clinton-Posters.jpg

Enough of politics and too "this and that". Everyone here wants to see a Bill Clinton back in the White House. This is the only way it's happening.

[Agent Orange]

Enough men already. We've screwed things up enough. Let's get some women in power!

We've screwed things up because it's human nature to make mistakes, to be selfish and greedy and to become corrupt. Women aren't any different. If I am going to vote for a woman as Commander in Chief, it will be because she is the best candidate, and her gender is consequential.

[bcp]

that's sad....isn't it human nature to do great things, be productive and become better?

[5280]

From the Denver Post:

DENVER HAS EDGE IF GOAL IS MESSAGE

Democrats are weighing the city against New York for their 2008 convention. Logistics and money are key, Howard Dean says.

By Mike Soraghan
Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Last Updated:11/09/2006 10:25:39 PM MST


Washington - Denver would be a better political choice than New York to host the 2008 Democratic National Convention, but the decision will primarily boil down to logistics and money, Howard Dean and other national Democratic Party officials said Thursday.

"There might be some political message we want to send by where we send the convention, but by far the most important thing is that the convention be run right," Dean, the party's national chairman, said at a breakfast roundtable Thursday.

"You've got to have a successful convention," Dean said, "so the nitty-gritty - raising money, transportation, hotels - becomes more important than any political message you might get out of it."

Dean declined to say which city in contention, New York or Denver, would send the better political message. But New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who appeared with Dean as chairman of the Democratic Governors Association, said it was clearly Denver.

"The natural political advantage is Denver," Richardson said. "It's not just Denver and Colorado; it's about the West."

Dean also joked that Richardson had been twisting his arm to get him to send the convention to Denver.

"Did you see I only had one arm?" he said.

The interior West has proved to be increasingly fertile political soil for Democrats since 2000, when it had no Democratic governors. Now, five of eight governors are Democrats, and there are 13 Democratic representatives and senators from the region.

Western Democrats say those victories hold lessons for the party as a whole and that bringing the convention to Denver would show that the party isn't a simply a liberal, coastal party.

Attempts to reach the New York State Democratic Party and the office of Mayor Michael Bloomberg for comment Thursday were unsuccessful.

Staff writer Mike Soraghan can be reached at 202-662-8730 or msoraghan@denverpost.com.

[bunt_q]

that's sad....isn't it human nature to do great things, be productive and become better?

Can't it be all of the above?

[5280]

Tirade Alert!

I was at a party in NYC a few days ago with some very politically influential Democrats, and I told them how excited I was about Barack Obama, not because of any of his ideas, but because he strikes me as someone who views public service as his calling (instead of an attempt to realize his massive ego or compensate for character flaws) and is legitimately brilliant. And they all got sour looks on their faces, because he isn't a true "liberal." And they all wanted Hilary.

For however anyone feels about Obama, you have got to compromise if you want to win. The Democrats can't keep running their ideal candidate, usually a Northeasterner or Washington insider (or both) and win. A Democrat has got to come from the South or the West to win. This has been the rule for the last 30 years.

And its only going to get more important. The Northeast states are losing population, and the Southern and Western states are booming. If you look at these numbers, I mean, my goodness:

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/statepop05table.xls

I hope the Democrats are just kidding about considering NYC over Denver. Because this is a tremendous opportunity and they can't afford to blow it.

[FrancoRey]

Well not only would the Dems blow a huge opportunity by signifying the "swift to the West" from not holding the convention in Denver, but they just have to! Denver had the democratic convention back in 1908 to show the West's new growth and "progression" with the progressive party. It was the 2nd biggest city in the western United States back then, after San Francisco. We need to have the centennial here! Denver in 2008!

[InfillJunkie]

^ Yeh because its all about money and logistics. A democratic convention should never be about politics or a political message. Ya know?

[5280]

I understand that in a process such as this, you need to play coy to extract the maximum number of benefits from each potential suitor, but I just get this bad feeling they are actually going to f*ck this up.

I mean, they may as well have the thing in Boston. Oh wait, they already did that...

[wong21fr]

The Dems have got to realize that the country does not want extreme liberalism, they want moderation and bipartisanship. We have seen what extreme conservatism was wrought us and we are not about to go the other way. Just look at the recent elections, the biggest winner were the moderate liberals. If the party thinks that they have "political capital" to go and conduct a fairly liberal agenda, they are mistaken. The West won this election and we can just as easily deny the next one if our needs and considerations are not taken into consideration.

The times are changing and if the Democrats, and Republicans, want to keep up they need to change as well.

[Top Of The Park]

perhaps we can get rid of nut cases Al Franken and Rush Limbaugh....Many would welcome that.

[navyweaxguy]

^ Amen

[glowrock]

Amen squared! :D

Aaron (Glowrock)

[FrancoRey]

Dare I say cubed? :D

[BroncoCSU05]

The Dems have got to realize that the country does not want extreme liberalism, they want moderation and bipartisanship. We have seen what extreme conservatism was wrought us and we are not about to go the other way. Just look at the recent elections, the biggest winner were the moderate liberals. If the party thinks that they have "political capital" to go and conduct a fairly liberal agenda, they are mistaken. The West won this election and we can just as easily deny the next one if our needs and considerations are not taken into consideration.

The times are changing and if the Democrats, and Republicans, want to keep up they need to change as well.


the rest of the whackjob left-wing nuts on SSP would have you believe that the Dems are ALREADY the centrist party and that the USA has already swung to them. isn't it amazing how people always have the need to feel like they're completely right? :rolleyes:


totally agree that current "republican" adgenda (i.e. pandering to a small sect of extreme right-wing ideologigy) has been complete shit and has shown to be HORRID.

here's to the dems not fucking up the next 2 years

[J Church]

Posting drunk again, Gabe?

[5280]

*sigh* I wish I were drunk...

Anyways, here's Denver's fancy new official convention site:

http://www.denverconvention2008.com/

[InfillJunkie]

the rest of the whackjob left-wing nuts on SSP would have you believe that the Dems are ALREADY the centrist party and that the USA has already swung to them. isn't it amazing how people always have the need to feel like they're completely right? :rolleyes:


How refreshing!

[BroncoCSU05]

Posting drunk again, Gabe?


glad to know that while people cant' tell by typing errors or even talking to me that they still can tell when i'm drunk

[InfillJunkie]

Perhaps its because youre a known alcoholic so we just figure you're always drunk. Hmmm??

[glowrock]

glad to know that while people cant' tell by typing errors or even talking to me that they still can tell when i'm drunk

:haha:

But come on now, everyone knows you're one of the bigger partiers amongst us, Gabe! :D

Aaron (Glowrock)

[enjo13]

Newsweek apparently has given Denver the '08 convention..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15675860/site/newsweek/

The westward trend is clear. For the first time, leaders of the House and Senate are from the Far West. Democrats put Nevada in a crucial early spot in the presidential-selection process, and will hold their convention in Denver.

[Giovoni]

hopefully he has inside information about that...

[Giovoni]

dbl post

[FrancoRey]

If this doesn't merit dancing fruit, I don't know what does. Let's hope it keeps going right!

:tomato: :banana: :awesome: :banana: :apple: :tomato: :banana: :dancing: :banana: :apple:

[glowrock]

I'm not sure ANY political convention is meritous of dancing fruit, honestly. Let's face it, the Dem Convention IS going to create some major headaches for Denver, especially in terms of security, protests, etc... etc...

At the same time, better off being the host of the Dems vs. the Reps, eh? ;)

Aaron (Glowrock)

[blm3034L!fe]

Dem's in Denver come 2008! This is good stuff IMO, regardless of your party of choice, if it were the GOP coming here in 2008 that would be just as good for this City IMO. Hosting a National Impacting Event such as this, has only positive benifits, it gives the City of Denver a chance to shine on a National level. Now hopefully some of the larger proposed projects will be in full effect come 2008 and this City will truely be in a very bright National spot light...
Who knows how this event might benifit this City down the road? Maybe help us to achieve title of Winter Olympics come 2018? Or maybe other major National Events will decide on Denver as host due to this Democratic Convention? Who truely knows? All I know is that it will have positive effects for Denver and the metro area... :yes:

[BroncoCSU05]

Perhaps its because youre a known alcoholic so we just figure you're always drunk. Hmmm??


READ THE SHIRT, BITCH


http://photos-717.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v47/141/114/19201169/n19201169_31629717_1931.jpg

[Denver Bear]

the rest of the whackjob left-wing nuts on SSP would have you believe that the Dems are ALREADY the centrist party and that the USA has already swung to them. isn't it amazing how people always have the need to feel like they're completely right? :rolleyes:


totally agree that current "republican" adgenda (i.e. pandering to a small sect of extreme right-wing ideologigy) has been complete shit and has shown to be HORRID.

here's to the dems not fucking up the next 2 years


so glad republicans don't resort to petty name calling :dunce:

and yes, I believe Democrats are the centrist party. Guess my opinions don't matter cause I'm not a drunk eh?

[InfillJunkie]

Bronco..uhm..are those pretzels around your neck? Yeh...uh...lame!

[BroncoCSU05]

^ obviously you don't know how to properly attend a beer festival.


denver bear...i'm FAR from a republican, and while they might be a centrist party if you included europe into the foray, don't overestimate our country. they're not a centrist party in the US of A.