[CitySkyline]

Per STR's request, I've uploaded some pictures of the original WTC's lowrises, plaza and concourse. These are NOT pictures I took. Rather, I collected them from the web soon after 9/11/01 (since I was afraid people would start removing all pics of the WTC from the web). Note that these pictures run the gamut from recent to rather old (i.e., some are from before the original 7 WTC was built).

Unfortunately, pictures of this area of the WTC are hard to find. I'm afraid there's only one dimly lit picture of the concourse in this collection. And, the lowrises don't appear much, either. But, this is better than nothing, I guess.

If any of you guys have more pictures of these areas, please share them. Actually, if you guys have ANY uncommon pics of the WTC, it'd be great to see them. (By "uncommon", I mean things other than the two towers taken from across the river ;) )

Click icons to see larger images.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9703/before3bdq4.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=before3bdq4.jpg) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4968/cidwtcjmonahan01sk0.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cidwtcjmonahan01sk0.jpg) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1500/dsc00283on0.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00283on0.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3145/mvc011fmv1.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mvc011fmv1.jpg)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6042/mvc012fmp3.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mvc012fmp3.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/845/plaza2bxn5.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plaza2bxn5.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7091/usatwtcbnb5.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usatwtcbnb5.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9250/worldtradecenternyc800bfn7.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=worldtradecenternyc800bfn7.jpg)

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5505/wtc1dbba2.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc1dbba2.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7654/wtc002cg0.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc002cg0.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/238/wtc003kb6.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc003kb6.jpg) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2245/wtc13bpy5.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc13bpy5.jpg)

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5818/wtc651zp3.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc651zp3.jpg) http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5079/wtc652rq3.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc652rq3.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/212/wtc005ben8.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc005ben8.jpg) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7962/wtc014bb0.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc014bb0.jpg)

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9996/wtc023sd9.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc023sd9.jpg)

This is the one concourse picture:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9415/wtc026hd6.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc026hd6.jpg)

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/592/wtc027bfk2.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc027bfk2.jpg) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2084/wtcbqs7.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcbqs7.jpg) http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2207/wtcbrochurebws2.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcbrochurebws2.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5526/wtcfountain2hd0.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcfountain2hd0.jpg)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9423/wtcmarriottbackgv4.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcmarriottbackgv4.jpg) http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/549/wtcntowermarriott15ay9.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcntowermarriott15ay9.jpg) http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8752/wtcobs1hm2.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcobs1hm2.jpg) http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6750/wtcplazaconcert01nd2.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcplazaconcert01nd2.jpg)

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3985/wtcplazaconcerthc2.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcplazaconcerthc2.jpg) http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4549/wtcsouthfrontlibstnd2.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcsouthfrontlibstnd2.jpg)

[jsr]

http://www.snappyroo.com/twins/images/VIEW4.jpg
http://www.snappyroo.com/twins/images/view7.jpg
http://www.snappyroo.com/twins/images/SUNRISE01.jpg

Not mine. From "SnappyRoo’s Twin Towers Tribute". You have to sometimes fish around in the parent directory for the images as some of the webpage links to the pics are broken.

Taken the weekend before they were destroyed...

http://www.snappyroo.com/twins/index.html

[CitySkyline]

^ Cool, thanks for the contribution!

[NewYorkMantle]

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7962/wtc014bb0.jpg

that's a ridiculous picture. i used to skate those stairs with my friends 2000-2001 and we would hide in that black sculpture when security would come after us.

[Lecom]

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7962/wtc014bb0.jpg

that's a ridiculous picture. i used to skate those stairs with my friends 2000-2001 and we would hide in that black sculpture when security would come after us.
I remember my first visit to the WTC site in 1999-2000 or so. However, I don't even think I noticed the Twin Towers then. I just remember a bunch of kids skating those exact rails, and one almost fucking himself up by falling off one of those rails.

Life takes us on interesting turns sometimes. How amazing would it be if I actually saw you there?

[Ghost]

That makes me sad :( I'v also visited WTC, in 1998.

[NewYorkMantle]

How amazing would it be if I actually saw you there?
:hmmm: more than amazing

[Ghost]

http://nycfoto.com/showPage.php?albumID=52

There is some more inside pics, as well others.

[NYguy]

Great pics. I have some old WTC shots. I'll have to find them, they're old 35mm pics...

[mrjoanofarc]

tkts booth in 2 WTC:

http://static.flickr.com/88/244380533_2e82487979_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/91/244380535_2d074c503a_o.jpg

Official PANYNJ website diagrams:

http://static.flickr.com/92/236668902_3a7747789d_o.gif

http://static.flickr.com/96/236668903_8f4c59ce13_o.gif

Evening Stars brochure I picked up:

http://static.flickr.com/92/236665756_2624ade507_b.jpg

[mrjoanofarc]

http://static.flickr.com/83/247600511_217ba3fa3a_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/83/247600516_ca2bfd5ffd_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/95/247600522_e66ee53446_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/82/247600535_c4bd12e265_o.jpg
^ That's the best picture I've ever seen of the TKTS booth-area. And the "OnStage" ads are on the 2 WTC windows! I didn't remember that. I wish there were closer-up pictures. It's really striking that the graphic on my brochure matches the one in the window... something I can physically hold in my hands to confirm reality.

Pictures from: http://www.labelscar.com/new-york/mall-at-world-trade-center
Person visited on: August 21, 2001
Interesting article as well.

*EDIT* Replaced pic links with more reliable Flickr links.

[jsr]

http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/images/old_wtc_approach.jpg

from
http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/index_2.htm

[TAFisher123]

awesome thread

[2-TOWERS]

great shots , they were really special, the new setup will be nice , b ut will not match what we had

[Daquan13]

I wish to God that I visited the obs deck long ago!!

Now I truly regret it!! It would have been a total experience - something to behold!!

[yumiko ^.^]

The WTC were not only tall and impressive, they also demonstrated the 1960's style in its every single details. That's something we will not see again

[mrjoanofarc]

They were, and always will be, a feat of engineering.

Does anyone have closer-up pictures of the 2 WTC doors?

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/592/wtc027bfk2.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc027bfk2.jpg)
There's that one.

*EDIT* And I just found a better one (remembered I had saved):
http://static.flickr.com/89/248013175_a6c907be54_o.jpg

I remember the inner doors had not handles, but the thin shiny bars seen on the revolving doors in the above pic, right?

http://static.flickr.com/97/248013176_b15ba016d0_o.jpg
^ Sort-of visualization.

[Zerton]

amazing thread. I hope books have all this archived.

[Daquan13]

They should, and don't see why they wouldn't!

[CHAPINM1]

I wish to God that I visited the obs deck long ago!!

Now I truly regret it!! It would have been a total experience!

Don't be hard on yourself. Even though it won't be outdoor, in a few years it will be there once again you will get that chance. :)

I very much look foward to that myself!

[mrjoanofarc]

Don't be hard on yourself. Even though it won't be outdoor, in a few years it will be there once again you will get that chance. :)

I very much look foward to that myself!

Thanks for being so hopeful :tup:

I had the chance, but not the choice. We stopped in the 2 WTC lobby for tickets, and everything else was scheduled. :( I loved observation decks though, 'cause we went to the ESB and it was amazing. The Twin Towers just blended in with the cityscape for me back then, so I don't remember them specifically (from the ESB)... and I've been back there 3 times to try to envision them the way I saw it in June 2001.

Haha, also... I met Gary Sinise the same singular day I went in the WTC. And saw Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick walking out of their theatre back in "The Producers"' heyday. It was a memorable day.

Anyway, I'm so glad they put the Freedom Tower obs deck at the same level. It gives us all another chance... a new chance.

[CHAPINM1]

Thanks for being so hopeful :tup:


Anyway, I'm so glad they put the Freedom Tower obs deck at the same level. It gives us all another chance... a new chance.

I'm just being honost, there's no being hopeful about it, hehehe... :D

Before we know it we'll all be posting observation photos and building photos of the new WTC here on the forum!

[Daquan13]

Don't be hard on yourself. Even though it won't be outdoor, in a few years it will be there once again you will get that chance. :)

I very much look foward to that myself!



Thank you.

Yes, it IS comforting to know that the obs deck in the Freedom Tower will be at the same height as the old Twins were!

And that it should be just as nice. And you can bet your bottom dollar that I WILL be there to visit this one!! I want to especially see what I missed before the Twins were destroyed.:banana:

[CitySkyline]

I wish to God that I visited the obs deck long ago!!

Now I truly regret it!! It would have been a total experience - something to behold!!

Well, I also gathered up some pictures of the observation deck. Wanna see them as well? :D (I'll gather pics a bit later and post them).

The more interesting pics are the ones from the outdoor deck, especially since the FT won't have that. Yes, the new indoor deck will be nice and will give you an idea of what you missed of the WTC's indoor deck, but the outdoor deck was something to behold: wind in your face, NO wires or glass glare to block your views, a full 360 degree view (at the ESB deck, behind you is the building; at the outdoor deck on the WTC, behind you was blue sky).

Anyway, sorry, didn't mean to depress you (after others cheered you up :) ) I'm sure the pictures will help.

[Ghost]

Maybe this thread should just be named Pics of Original WTC? And just post everything u guys got there?

[CitySkyline]

Maybe this thread should just be named Pics of Original WTC? And just post everything u guys got there?

Yes, but there should be a rule: only "uncommon" pics of the original WTC are allowed (I realize that's quite subjective). What I mean is, we've all seen enough pics of the Twin Towers from the river, so those type of pics shouldn't be included. What we want here are closeup images of areas that most people haven't seen.

It'd be great if people had pics of the underground concourse, but I understand why there are so few pics of that (most people don't think of taking pics of an underground mall!)

Here are pics I'd be interested in seeing:

a) Underground concourse
b) Indoor observation deck, where the focus is more on the inside as opposed to the view outside
c) Outdoor deck
d) The surrounding streets of the WTC
e) Inside office floors (cubicles, etc.)
f) Any and all pics of the hotel (inside, closeup of outside)
g) Closeups of the lobby (although I believe these are rather common)

[CHAPINM1]

This new observation deck may also have some cool new features that the previous one didn't. There may be something to substitute for there not being an ouside observation deck, I don't know what, but there will probably be something pretty cool in addition to the very same views we are about to get back! :banana:

[jsr]

Y
Here are pics I'd be interested in seeing:

e) Inside office floors (cubicles, etc.)


Obvious place to start for Windows on the World images (http://public.fotki.com/kostic/world_trade_center/windows_on_the_world-4/).

I get chills sometimes looking at these interior pictures and thinking these are some of the places where a lot of people spent the last moments of their lives. Everything shown in them is gone.

[CHAPINM1]

I know, it actually does make me think of all that now that also... I think the photo Album dated September 01, 2001, is really scary to look at because just knowing that not even 2 weeks after that was when 9/11 occured.

My memory of the Windows on the World from when I was little will be forever altered, whenever I see those pictures, it brings back the throught about what was going on in there after the plane hit and before the Tower collapsed and the horrors the 73 Windows on the World employee's were going through during their final minutes in that that very same room.

[CitySkyline]

Obvious place to start for Windows on the World images (http://public.fotki.com/kostic/world_trade_center/windows_on_the_world-4/).



That's an excellent link, thanks! Lots of good albums there.

[Ghost]

Does someone have pics of underground mall? I didn't visit there, when I was on NYC trip.

[cfrobel]

Good one of the street area around the Marriott World Trade Center:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9606/usnynycmarriotthotelatworldtradecentertweaked1gszo0.jpg

[mrjoanofarc]

Some more Snappyroo pics, relinked to Flickr for higher reliability:

http://static.flickr.com/79/249360431_6e01e5cfa9_o.jpg
Nighttime Plaza

http://static.flickr.com/93/249360434_de2fd84dcc_o.jpg
Better Plaza set-up shot, once again, 1 week before 9/11.

http://static.flickr.com/82/249362064_e215bd188e_o.jpg
Zoom in of 1 WTC from Millenium Hilton. Best quality closest to 9/11 I've seen so far.

http://static.flickr.com/85/249362061_9ca82d1883_o.jpg
Standing closeup of 2 WTC, probably taken before it was time to wheel out the green-topped souvenir carts.

http://www.snappyroo.com/twins/images/

*EDIT* Also, I don't understand how the "1" and "2" signs (in front) sometimes appear glowing red, when they really look like this:
http://static.flickr.com/79/249370457_5766a90cf1_o.jpg
Do they illuminate somehow? Or have some kind of coating?

Compare with the last 2 pictures to see.

*EDIT 2* Okay, I'm beginning to figure this out. They have different designs, so they're 2 different posts. BUT, they appear in the same spot.

The "glowing-red" version's picture was taken 9-4-01, and "regular" was taken 6-4-01. Was it replaced with a more "hi-tech" glowing version within those months?

[NewYorkMantle]

http://static.flickr.com/79/249370457_5766a90cf1_o.jpg

yeah, that's the old sign. they were painted over within a couple days, right before 9/11. the red was like a matte finish and, from what i can remember, nothing was illuminated on it.

http://www.brokenheartelectric.com/albums/WTC/WTC_sign.jpg

i think i remember the signs outside the plaza being different from the ones in those pictures though. i swear there were old signs that were larger and made out of reflective aluminum on the sidewalk. - can anyone confirm this?

[STR]

^The sidewalk signs were taller than the plaza signs. And they were repainted in 1999, not "just before 9/11", when the plaza was repaved and the pink benches and planters were added

[NewYorkMantle]

^The sidewalk signs were taller than the plaza signs. And they were repainted in 1999, not "just before 9/11", when the plaza was repaved and the pink benches and planters were added
i don't know about that. i didn't even start skating til 2000 and i definitely remember the sidewalk signs being changed after i was regularly hitting up the manny pads outside the plaza.

[NewYorkMantle]

oh look, i guess i knew what i was talking about... 2001 photo of the plaza:

http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/images/old_world_trade_plaza2.jpg

[STR]

^That photo was taken in 2000. Seems they were repainted in early 2001.

[NewYorkMantle]

yeah, that's probably right

by the way, i love this photo:

http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/images/a_twin_towers.jpg

[Daquan13]

yeah, that's probably right

by the way, i love this photo:

http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/images/a_twin_towers.jpg



That IS a very dramatic photo!!

Looks like just the towers were there before stuff like the Marriott (formerly Vista) Hotel and 7 WTC were added.:banana:

[mrjoanofarc]

http://static.flickr.com/79/250157484_1b6683eac6_o.jpg

Check out the "OnStage!" graphics... I'm not sure they advertised that in early 2001, so it had to've been the later months.

I'm guessing they replaced it somewhere between 6-4-01 and 9-4-01.

*EDIT* The timestamp on the "red" sign reveals it was taken: 6/9/01 at 2:37 PM. So, it was changed between 6-4-01 and 6-9-01.

[mrjoanofarc]

From a pretty big photo site, so very minimal searching would've turned this up (I saved it in Oct 2002):

http://static.flickr.com/95/250221141_8cd5ed7adb_o.jpg

Also, I don't know why anyone would take a picture of this, but I'm glad they did:

http://static.flickr.com/81/250221142_5569720647_o.jpg

TKTS booth from outside... Poor lighting/weather conditions, though (depending on what kind of weather you like).

[jsr]

http://ednixon.com/pix/2001/wtc/greghu~1.jpg

http://ednixon.com/pix/2001/wtc/tower1.jpg

http://ednixon.com/pix/2001/wtc/fmroof.jpg

Pictures from the roof of WTC1

http://ednixon.com/pix/2001/wtc/

[mrjoanofarc]

Cool photo from the above group:
http://static.flickr.com/83/255590003_1080c99a76_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/121/255590004_3020121abf_o.jpg
2 WTC lobby, east side, facing south? (From emporis)

http://static.flickr.com/109/255590005_c305f7efb8_o.jpg
Green-topped carts outside 2 WTC (From WotW picture collection)

Also, I want to reinforce the point that the WTC directional posts were re-painted between 6-4-01 and 6-9-01, determined from two dated photos earlier in the thread.

[Daquan13]

Sadly, gone are the days when two monster twin towers proudly ruled the Eastern Seaboard.

[Renton]

I made it to the Obs. deck a few times, but the roof always seemed to be closed. But I did make it to the roof once. Surprisingly the view wasn't what i thought, since you were away from the edge of the building. The thing about being on the roof obs. level that was great was looking over at Tower 1 and the massive antenna. It was quite a view.

[Daquan13]

Well, I also gathered up some pictures of the observation deck. Wanna see them as well? :D (I'll gather pics a bit later and post them).

The more interesting pics are the ones from the outdoor deck, especially since the FT won't have that. Yes, the new indoor deck will be nice and will give you an idea of what you missed of the WTC's indoor deck, but the outdoor deck was something to behold: wind in your face, NO wires or glass glare to block your views, a full 360 degree view (at the ESB deck, behind you is the building; at the outdoor deck on the WTC, behind you was blue sky).

Anyway, sorry, didn't mean to depress you (after others cheered you up :) ) I'm sure the pictures will help.



Yes, show them, please.

We were indeed hoping to get an outdoor obs deck as well, but with the new spire / antenna arrangement, that seems highly unlikely now.

But having the INDOOR obs deck, at this point, is better than none at all. We WERE at least pushing for a few of the things that the old WTC had, and we will get them.

But at least, in time, we will once again have the highest viewing point on the East Coast!!!

[Daquan13]

I made it to the Obs. deck a few times, but the roof always seemed to be closed. But it did make it to the roof once. Surprisingly the view wasn't what i thought, since you were away from the edge of the building. The thing about being on the roof obs. level that was great was looking over at Tower 1 and the massive antenna. It was quite a view.



Yes, the indoor one DID let visitors get to the edge and see a little bit more.

[ReDSPork02]

http://static.flickr.com/121/255590004_3020121abf_o.jpg
2 WTC lobby, east side, facing south? (From emporis)

where any of these flags recovered? any Flag?

[STR]

^Those were pulverized. That entire lobby was compressed into about two inches.

[CoolCzech]

http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/images/a_twin_towers.jpg

I wonder if the spire of the FT will be visible from this same angle, unlike the North Tower's antenna... it would be awesome if it extended the impression of height even beyond that we see in this view.

[STR]

From West and Liberty, you'll be able to see 1WTC in its entirety.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/962/231yw3.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=231yw3.jpg)

[Daquan13]

The height of the spire / antennna might have a lot to do with it.

The antenna on the North Tower was only just over 300 feet. Also, the shape of the Freedom Tower might have something to do with it as well, since it will taper inward as it soars into the sky.

[CitySkyline]

Here are a few video clips I found on YouTube on the WTC. For those of you who never got to go up, they give you a glimpse of what the experience was like.

1. A tourist video from June 2001. Shows the outdoor deck and a bit of the lobby at the beginning of the clip. Notice how BIG the lobbies were (people always think of the WTC as being tall; they often forget how massive each tower was)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGJElpnMs70


2. This is a scene from "Mazes and Monsters" (a movie I've never heard of, but has a young Tom Hanks). It shows the WTC lobby and both the indoor and outdoor decks (these areas are as they looked before the mid-90's renovations). At the very end of the clip, you get a good look of the outdoor deck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IkuQouJqOA


3. This video contains the complete "virtual" helicopter ride that people could see for free at the indoor observation deck (it was included with the price of admission). Also at the beginning of the video, you can see a glimpse of the underground area, as well as some footage of the lobby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsteYt5CLXI


4. This silent video clip shows both the outdoor and indoor decks. Unfortunately, the guy who taped it didn't seem to know how to keep the camera steady when he was outside (nor did he seem to know how to adjust the lens to use a wide-angle view). :rolleyes: About 3 minutes into the video, you see the indoor deck. Again, notice how massive the floor was!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfqCnFQ5EFs


5. This video is a short tribute. What's cool is that you get to see the view from the indoor deck while clouds float by below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ov4VJKuF5E


6. The longest of the video clips (taken by a tourist). Mainly shows the indoor deck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_8mZbhKfo


It was cool seeing these clips, especially the outdoor deck scenes. My last time on the outdoor deck I believe was 1991 (my last time going up at all was 1997, but the outdoor deck was closed that day :( ) Considering I live in NYC, I regret not having gone more often (then again, who knew there was gonna be a time limit to being able to go up?)

[STR]

The 107th was a very large floor, as it was almost entirely open space with only 8 elevators and a few columns breaking up what would otherwise be 42,000 square feet.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5293/wtcv002ju3.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtcv002ju3.jpg)

[STR]

Looking east from the 1WTC entrance. Taken probably in the 80's before Chase bank moved its operation to near the entrance of the south tower..
http://www.starcitymall.com/webcam/wtc/wtc_026.jpg

Looking northwest into the "Grand Square" of the WTC concourse mall. The columns on the face of the WB store supported 5WTC.
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/2699/487354604jtxfjiphjx7.jpg

Looking north to the eastern Vessey St. Entrance to 5WTC. The elavtor lobby is on the left sie of the corridor.
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/4832/539180496xazwlcphsc8.jpg

Looking southeast to "PATH Square," just to the south of the above photo
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/9805/487350400ourpsephiu8.jpg

Looking west at the escalators to 5WTC plaza level.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4517/487350647ournvaphcv1.jpg

Looking east in 5WTC from plaza level down to the concourse from the top of the escalators seen in the last shot.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/8250/539176046xvczlxphmh4.jpg

North WFC bridge, taken from near the entrance to 6WTC.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/8936/487351901xhbvhpphom0.jpg

From between Trade Center 1 and 3. By Mark Millen (http://contaxg.com/user.php?id=1167)
http://contaxg.com/files/1167/wtcandhotel_.jpg

[Daquan13]

Great pic, STR!!

Two bad that was all destroyed by ten madmen!!

[reej]

One on of the videos CitySkyline posted some guy goes to the towers the day before the attack. Wow. Great stuff though. I loved the WTC's, wish I had a chance to go.

[Daquan13]

Don't feel bad. I never got the chance to visit the towers either.

[Patrick]

The WTC was a huge thing in my Childhood, I lived in California, but as a kid I loved Skyscrapers, I used to draw the Twin Towers all the time.

I even remember making a wish in a fountian, at a church when I was probably in 2nd or 1st Grade, around 1998-2000
"I wish I will work in the World Trade Center and live in New York"

It sucks that I'll never see that dream come true, I never visited the towers in person. My dad did on a business trip in April 2001, he stayed at the Marriott World Financial Center, about 2 blocks from the towers. He said the towers where amazing, he took great pictures.

I should scan then some day.

[Independence]

"I wish I will work in the World Trade Center and live in New York".


I felt almost the same and it was one of my biggest goals for me to see the twin towers at least once in my life.
After 9/11 I was completely disillusioned about that matter. There will never
be anything like them. :shrug:
It's not about height, its not about design, it's just the one WTC that will never ever be back again.

I don't care what others say, to me the WTC was blessed by some special kind of architectural beauty, a masterpiece of clearly defined forms and bright facades.:tup:
And of course the fact of standing in front of a 417m straight up steel tower, which surely was a view and feeling that created a "what-the-f*ck?-feeling" to the visitor...:D

Hope to see the Freedom Tower some day...:rolleyes:

[Patrick]

^ I agree completly, except I dont care much for the New World Trade Center, I want to see the Original WTC, at least they died before the world went compltetly to hell.

[2-TOWERS]

the only buildings in the world to have no setbacks 110 floors straight up , not like sears towers, 225 feet on bottom , setting back to 75x150 on top, true one of a kind and two of them , petronas would have been to about the 90th floor of old #1 and # 2 too bad we will never have that again...............

[2-TOWERS]

[QUOTE=2-TOWERS]the only buildings in the world to have no setbacks 110 floors straight up , not like sears towers, 225 feet on bottom , setting back to 75x150 on top, true one of a kind and two of them , petronas would have been to about the 90th floor of old #1 and # 2 too bad we will never have that again.......:shrug:

[Patrick]

^Wow I never noticed that, the one and only no setback-supertalls

[NYC32]

Does anyone have pics of the twins from the 59 st bridge?

[mrjoanofarc]

Looking north to the eastern Vessey St. Entrance to 5WTC. The elevator lobby is on the left sie of the corridor.
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/4832/539180496xazwlcphsc8.jpg

Looking west at the escalators to 5WTC plaza level.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4517/487350647ournvaphcv1.jpg

Looking east in 5WTC from plaza level down to the concourse from the top of the escalators seen in the last shot.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/8250/539176046xvczlxphmh4.jpg


STR, thank you so much for finding and posting these. These locations have been stuck in my head for 5 years; the stairs from Vesey, and the escalator down from 5 WTC. It's amazing anyone even thought to take a picture of an escalator. And it means so much to me now. Wow.

[mlrs84]

I actually think the escalator in the last couple of pics are from the southeastern corner of 4WTC, and the photo is looking north towards 5WTC.

Why? Because if this was the escalator in 5WTC, it would have had the windows on the left side, and image mirroring can be ruled out as we can read the mall posters.

[STR]

Nope. All 3 of those pics are from 5 WTC. There were 3 sets of escalators in Building 5. One in the western half of the building, shown above, and two on the east side.

There were two escalators sets in 4WTC. One was in the middle of the building, so no windows. The, in the SE corner of the building, didn't face any other WTC building and had a large staircase along the side, not just the narrow one shown above.

[mlrs84]

Right! I think I see it now.... This escalator would be in 5WTC right behind the sphere in this photo right?http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/world/2994/2994_11.jpg

[2-TOWERS]

WOW GREAT PICS ,STILL CANT BELIEVE ALL THAT IS GONE , AND LIKE MY BOY DQUAN SAYS ,ALL GONE BY 10 MADMAN :hell: :hell: :hell:

[RockMont]

Don't feel bad. I never got the chance to visit the towers either.


I'm soooooooo thankful that I did! The new one will be even better. Just wait and see.

[Nowhereman1280]

^Wow I never noticed that, the one and only no setback-supertalls

Not true, Aon Center in Chicago is a supertall and has no setbacks, it actually looks erriely like WTC 1+2, but white. However, Aon is about 230 feet shorter than they were, so they were the tallest no setback buildings ever.

Anyhow, I really like this thread, I've looked through the whole thing. Its really surreal to realize that all of that was destroyed and its really interesting the number of random pictures a landmark like WTC generates over its lifetime.

[mrjoanofarc]

http://www.starcitymall.com/webcam/wtc/wtc_012.jpg
Circa mid/late-1970's (anywhere from 1974-1981).

http://www.starcitymall.com/webcam/wtc/wtc-1974.jpg
I've always been curious what made the sky lobbies' metal stand out and glow from the rest of the structure. From closer-up images and looking over the years, I'm guessing it's because they: 1. used a darker shade of metal; 2. made the lobbies' facade columns thicker in width; and, 3. made the facade columns protrude further from the structure, creating the "negative" effect in sunlight interaction.

http://www.starcitymall.com/webcam/wtc/

[Daquan13]

WOTW and the obs deck opened around '75, I think.

A former coworker told me that he once visited the obs deck sometime in '77.

[2-TOWERS]

the metal ,steel columns going up sort of curved out very slightly where the sky lobbies were,it still makes me sick , how we lost those buildings, look at the shot of the observertory on the 107 th floor, no other building had such an awsum inside and outside deck, that used the whole floor plate..:(

[giovanni sasso]

i have no idea how this is the first time i've viewed this thread, but it is. a couple things:

1. those windows on the world pictures are fantastic. their photographer should be proud for documenting that. the ones of the bar, especially these (http://public.fotki.com/kostic/world_trade_center/windows_on_the_world-4/windows_on_the_world-1/page5.html), brought back great memories.

2. that picture of the lobby from the 70s is DOPE.

3. STR, did you do this (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=231yw3.jpg)? it is far and away the best rendering i've seen of the new WTC. i personally don't like any of it -- i think it's too sterile, the designs (except foster's) are horrible and it really brings down the skyline -- but that particular job is professional and really attractive.

[drew11]

nice pictures i wish the twin towers were still here.

[STR]

3. STR, did you do this (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=231yw3.jpg)? it is far and away the best rendering i've seen of the new WTC. i personally don't like any of it -- i think it's too sterile, the designs (except foster's) are horrible and it really brings down the skyline -- but that particular job is professional and really attractive. [/color]

Thanks.

It has an entire thread
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=114618

[StarScraperCity]

There's just something about the Twin Towers. Don't get me wrong, the new World Trade Center isn't bad, but there's nothing that can replace the Twins, at least not in my eyes. I just regret that I was never able to see them in person. They may not have been the most astounding buildings architecture wise, but they will always have a place in my heart as my favorite buildings.

[Daquan13]

Hopefully, the NWTC will reclaim the skies over Lower Manhattan and bring back the business, tourists and prosperity that the OWTC once had.

[RockMont]

There's just something about the Twin Towers. Don't get me wrong, the new World Trade Center isn't bad, but there's nothing that can replace the Twins, at least not in my eyes. I just regret that I was never able to see them in person. They may not have been the most astounding buildings architecture wise, but they will always have a place in my heart as my favorite buildings.



Just wait a few years, the new WTC will be bigger and better, than anyone will ever know. So as long as the Freedom Tower is enclosed all the way to the top, as opposed to the putrid farce that Liebeskind tried to pull off, the second time around.

[Amanita]

It will always hurt that I never saw the Twin Towers up close. I remember seeing a picture of them as a kid for the first time- it was love and recognition at the first sight. Some of you guys said you skateboarded there? I always wanted to get a good sparring partner and a pair of sparring swords, and stage one hell of a duel there in the plaza. Lightsabers such as the ones I've built recently would have been awesome:) Breezing through those magnificent cathedral-like lobbies in a long cloak would have been completely awesome- it would sure stand out from the suits and tourists!
I miss those towers so much that it hurts. And no freedom tower will heal that. I think of the political mess that the rebuilding process was, and it makes my blood boil all over again. No outdoor observation deck? How sad. Nothing beats standing on the roof of a tower, with the wind in your hair.

On another note, I've got a photoshopped version of one of the 2 WTC entrance pics somebody posted- I cut and pasted one of my drawings of that tower in his anthropomorphized form into the image, and my gods it looks lifelike. I might post it later.

[Zerton]

they were so futuristic

[PeterG]

Obvious place to start for Windows on the World images (http://public.fotki.com/kostic/world_trade_center/windows_on_the_world-4/).

I get chills sometimes looking at these interior pictures and thinking these are some of the places where a lot of people spent the last moments of their lives. Everything shown in them is gone.

I completely agree with you, looking at the pictures on your link, there's almost a ghostly feel about the pictures, even though this is before that tragic day.

[PeterG]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10026788@N00/141380297/

This is a quite stunning photo of the towers that I found on the FLICKR photo sharing site.
Quite an unusual angle, coming courtesy of a member named 'henrygkuo'.

I think the 'fork' type architecture of the base is probably my favourite design addition of any building. Subtle yet visually stunning.

[Daquan13]

WOW GREAT PICS ,STILL CANT BELIEVE ALL THAT IS GONE , AND LIKE MY BOY DAQUAN SAYS ,ALL GONE BY 10 MADMAN :hell: :hell: :hell:



Gone Baby, Gone!!

But we'll definitely have that opportunity again in about 5 years!;)



Peter, we'll get to see those 'fork-style' beams again. Two of them at least. when they move into their permenant home, the museum. They'll stand proudly there for all to see.

[Dac150]

Let's keep this thread alive. More pics are needed though.

[STR]

Plaza Level Map
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/2110/engineeringimgrescue1xs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1158/62117do6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1849/63125264blnxvdr4ez6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6919/63099686hemi51kufu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3221/37950148144259a27e4ovi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9699/doraninwtcii6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1820/wtc023sd9jl7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1203/1019cy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4876/638wtcofficecz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Dac150]

Thank you STR!

[Amanita]

Awesome! I always wanted to stand in those lobbies..they looked like the insides of some space age cathedral, with those huge gothic windows.

[STR]

Thank you STR!

Oh, I've got a crap load more photos, most of them are unique or unusual. 450 in total last I checked, probably 20-30 of the lobby. The one posted above is from just after opening in the 70's.

[Dac150]

Would you mind posting more? I would appreciate that.

[STR]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/571/wtc019ys0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/445/l1wc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/1207/wtc024vj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4493/3452tr6.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/557/wtc005xj9.jpg

[Dac150]

Thanks STR. That last one was before 7WTC.

[Patrick]

Here are some pics of the Complex I found on the CoStar Group Incorpotated website.

http://www.intellnet.org/resources/costar_wtc/1WorldTradeCenterBuildingPhoto.jpg http://www.intellnet.org/resources/costar_wtc/2WorldTradeCenterBuildingPhoto.jpg http://www.intellnet.org/resources/costar_wtc/4WorldTradeCenterBuildingPhoto.jpg http://www.intellnet.org/resources/costar_wtc/5WorldTradeCenterBuildingPhoto.jpg http://www.intellnet.org/resources/costar_wtc/6WorldTradeCenterBuildingPhoto.jpg http://www.intellnet.org/resources/costar_wtc/7WorldTradeCenterBuildingPhoto.jpg http://www.intellnet.org/resources/costar_wtc/AlternateViewofNorthandSouthTowers.jpg

[Kon133]

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2228/world20trade20centervifj2.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3981/i9054d6ecd11c46cca1df40gm1.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5647/img1912orvicr8.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6743/img1910orviza4.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3751/dscn6899viea8.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9139/dscn8472viyy2.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5198/dscn8454viba3.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4582/dscn0962jpgvidw5.jpg

:( :( :(

[Dac150]

I miss them a lot.

[StarScraperCity]

I miss them a lot.

You're not alone.

[flissss]

Some more pics relevant to the topic and some not so.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/110606-philippe-petit.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/1109.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/2103.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/biglittlewtc.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/g-wtc-d10.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/mvc011fmv1.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/wtc9s.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/Joeyflissss/wtcplazaconcert01nd2.jpg