[Zerton]

Impressive build site. It makes the Chicago Spire look like a pot hole. I have to admit, I'm jealous that the chinese can build so much faster and build much grander buildings than my fellow americans. Oh well, time to pass the torch to the new super power of the world.

Kind of interesting that this tower was designed by a Chicago firm, Smith + Gill. I spoke with Gordon Gill about this building for some time before realizing who he was, kind of embarrassing, but at least I was very honest with him.

[The North One]

Yikes. Shanghai has more "shops and cafes" than any American city by a magnitude of two or three. Remove NYC from the equation, and that becomes a magnitude of at least ten. You couldn't be more wrong.

What does north america have to do with this?

I might be wrong, but ive never seen any good looking shoping areas in shanghia.

[The North One]

*Sigh*

Shanghai pretty much shites on most cities in North America (save a select few) when it comes to a true urban experience. Its absolutely obvious you have never been here or possibly never even seen pictures of Shanghai outside of this construction thread, so I'm gonna risk looking like a self-promoter and drop a couple links of my most recent photos of Shanghai. I'd recommend looking at it. It may enlighten you.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=163209


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=177882

ok, but alot of those streets look really gritty, not somewhere I would enjoy walking. Nothing like hong kong has. and the only part of shanghia that looks good is where those skyscrapers are, but its hardly walkable.

[Aleks]

thats nice to know, but please keep this on topic. the thread is called, "shanghai tower" and it should remain about shanghai tower.

plus city vs city (country vs country), is not allowed in this forum.

now stop it little ones.

[The North One]

Just stating what I thought, but I have never been there, so I guess I cant really say and I will take your word for it, unless I go there some day myself (which most likely will not happen since I have no desire to go there)

[hdsgh1111]

the street in LUJIAZUI PHOTOED BY JEANS
http://image215.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100201/11/52464199201002011142023086138324351_039.jpg
http://image215.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100201/11/52464199201002011142023086138324351_040.jpg
http://image215.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100201/11/52464199201002011142023086138324351_038.jpg

[DigitalNinja]

I'm going here in the summer, july 8th, I'll be sure to take lots of pics!

[hdsgh1111]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2797/4039056566_df563d3882_b.jpg
overlook

[hdsgh1111]

happy Chinese New Year!!

[Rise To The Top]

Kind of interesting that this tower was designed by a Chicago firm, Smith + Gill. I spoke with Gordon Gill about this building for some time before realizing who he was, kind of embarrassing, but at least I was very honest with him.

This Gordon Gill and Adrian Smith have no relation to the design of this tower. It was designed by Gensler, ya fool.

[drewmandan]

Do Chinese people say "Happy American New Year" on January 1st?

[Indescribable]

Interesting photos from the ground, HDS.

[Zerton]

This Gordon Gill and Adrian Smith have no relation to the design of this tower. It was designed by Gensler, ya fool.

errr... I must have spoken to Gensler then. All these names local names confuse me sometimes. Anyway I bet I sounded like an idiot if it makes you feel better.

[PhxPavilion]

In the words of Donald Trump, this building's going to be huuuuuge.

[hdsgh1111]

Do Chinese people say "Happy American New Year" on January 1st?
Just say happy new year

[JDRCRASH]

http://image215.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100201/11/52464199201002011142023086138324351_040.jpg

Hopefully that picture only understates the pedestrian-friendliness of this area of Pudong. It kinda reminds me of a large-scale Century City.

[muppet]

check out whats at the bottom of the skyscrapers - endless old streets and pedestrian lanes:

thanx to Staff, www.skyscrapercity.com
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9326/2138969342a0586c53eaopd9.jpg

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3453/kyokoted3qzk0sxsua1wwen1.jpg
kyokoted


the russet coloured roofs of the old city carpetting the place make Shanghai appear brown from the air:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3492/3188872395_1f4ac7e2d5_b.jpg
Staff, www.skyscrapercity.com

[muppet]

And the shopping is endless (and pedestrianised)

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q49/zupermaus/China_Nanjing_Road1.jpg http://www.topren.net/travel/sights/shanghai/nanjing-road-shanghai-200751.jpg
www.nationalgeographic.com, www.topren.net

http://item.slide.com/r/1/33/i/SHZYAq2D7T8C6PYwHVyyBUUQAmytattp/
http://item.slide.com

http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/fe/6c/e0/51233d64e0bc253dbfdacaa6724819cb.jpg
http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/fe

http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/3c/eb/05/cbf47c697e6aeb2cbe5d0dbfde17b866.jpg
http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/359/shanghainanjingroadchinjj8.jpg

The Old City, French Concession and Xintiandi are all restored and chock full of cafes and boutiques,
with thousands of houses currently getting preserved in the Jewish district in Hongkou and Luwan also.

http://woollymammoths.org/Mark/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/shanghai_old_town_street.JPG http://www.savagexi.com/photos/xintiandi.jpg
http://woollymammoths.org, http://www.savagexi.com
http://www.bpovia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/luwan.jpg http://www.theodora.com/wfb/photos/china/xintiandi_area_shanghai_china_photo_expo2010.jpg
www.bpovia.com, www.theodora.com


the lanes:

http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/82/91/d0/9b39a28eab4b45dcde9aacec061a40c7.jpg http://images.travelpod.com/users/eddieandlynn/1.1223564760.old-french-concession-streets.jpg
http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm, http://www.travelpod.com/ad/Old_French_Concession-Shanghai

the city is also surprisingly green below the concrete forest, and full of avenues and pocket parks.
By liveability laws x amount of people have to live within x vicinity of x amount of green space:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2657668982_84c56f238a_b.jpg
zupermaus, www.wirednewyork.com
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8661/03612b9dwk0.jpg
www.wirednewyork.com
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3182/2537063355_36f62702ef_b.jpg
www.wirednewyork.com

[Ilsaz]

Great photos of a delightful and fascinating city. Thank you for sharing.

[Thefigman]

ShiMao is right on a shopping district

Photo by me

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/thefigman70/PicDump379.jpg

[Indescribable]

I've never seen Shanghai from that perspective before.

[hdsgh1111]

Hopefully that picture only understates the pedestrian-friendliness of this area of Pudong. It kinda reminds me of a large-scale Century City.

The road in this picyure is just beside the SWFC and Shanghaitower

[hdsgh1111]

2/21 shanghai tower by jamyan
http://abbs.cn/pic/2010/02/21/1266718605.jpg
http://abbs.cn/pic/2010/02/21/1266718614.jpg

[The Chemist]

Mat slab pour occurred yesterday - 60 000 cubic metres. This one should get cranes and start to rise in the next month or so. :)

[ScottFromCalgary]

Since we're sharing photos Shanghai, I took these on Chinese New Year in 2009

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/scottr49/P1012773.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/scottr49/P1012787.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/scottr49/P1012777.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/scottr49/P1012774.jpg

[Indescribable]

Busy streets!

[TANGELD_SLC]

:haha: How ironic...
http://image215.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100201/11/52464199201002011142023086138324351_039.jpg

a GM car in China...

[shakman]

I know Shanghai is one of the largest cities in the world, however are the streets always that busy? In some areas at the least?

It looks like the National Mall in DC during Fourth of July.

Back to Topic: This building does not jive with me. I hope some form of exterior lighting will make up for my opinion. Of course renderings and actual product can be austhetically different.

[giallo]

^ Shanghai streets are pretty sparse when compared to places like HK, Tokyo or NYC.

Those pictures were taken during Chinese New Year in Yuyuan Gardens aka tourist hell. It's a popular place for visitors, but I avoid it like the plague. Besides some interesting photo ops here and there, the place is filled with chain stores and local vendors trying their best to rip you off. I'd rather tread water in a sewer than spend a day there.

[shakman]

^ Shanghai streets are pretty sparse when compared to places like HK, Tokyo or NYC.

Those pictures were taken during Chinese New Year in Yuyuan Gardens aka tourist hell. It's a popular place for visitors, but I avoid it like the plague. Besides some interesting photo ops here and there, the place is filled with chain stores and local vendors trying their best to rip you off. I'd rather tread water in a sewer than spend a day there.

Thank you for the warning. I will keep it in mind whenever I can Shanghai.

[T-Mac]

Found this one on flickr. It looks like it was taken January 26th.
Taken by: lena.ink

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4308440304_b454f0aa20_o.jpg

[steveve]

AWEESOME shot ^^^

It looks like a giant crater crashed into the ground! Those little columns being poured look so awesome from above! They look like little ants and the funny thing is their gonna be the foundations for one of the largest/tallest towers ever built! :cheers:

[Stratosphere]

:haha: How ironic...
http://image215.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100201/11/52464199201002011142023086138324351_039.jpg

a GM car in China...
Why is it ironic? GM is doing very well in China. Buick is one of the most popular car brands there.

[malec]

Just so people know, the foundation was poured here recently.

pouring complete ...

by jamyan 2010/03/30

http://abbs.cn/pic/2010/03/30/1269941813.jpg

http://abbs.cn/pic/2010/03/30/1269941823.jpg

[shakman]

Found this one on flickr. It looks like it was taken January 26th.
Taken by: lena.ink

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4308440304_b454f0aa20_o.jpg

Are those caissons or rammed concrete pylons? Kind of hard to tell from that high up.

[Gautier.c]

New Pictures (03.04):

http://storage.canalblog.com/97/55/96983/51848764.png

http://storage.canalblog.com/28/74/96983/51848775.png

[Zerton]

Those aerials show how anti-urban the pudong neighborhood is in that area. It's a shame because the towers are so nice.

[JDRCRASH]

^ What do you mean by that? Is it because of the large swaths of space between the skyscrapers?

[Anders Franzén]

^ What do you mean by that? Is it because of the large swaths of space between the skyscrapers?

That and the area seems car-oriented, too large quarters, houses not oriented towards the street but built like it was in suburbia, probably only one use per building (with few exceptions).

Not many people will find this a friendly area to hang/walk around in, making it an uncomfortable, unsecure, empty wasteland with the people isolated from each others in their cars and office towers. Skyscrapers with roads between them does not equal a city.

Did I sound too dystopic now?;)

[giallo]

The main problem with Lujiazui is that it really doesn't get anything right (besides the skyline of course). It's neither friendly to cars or people. It's like a puzzle with all the pieces jammed in to the wrong places.

Going back to Shanghai Center; wow! What a hole.

[xboarder84]

"Those aerials show how anti-urban the pudong neighborhood is in that area."


You mean those aerial images of a CONSTRUCTION site doesn't look urban enough to you? Would you prefer they build a restaurant in the middle there? Or how about they build a few sidewalks through the construction zone?:koko:

[eburress]

That and the area seems car-oriented, too large quarters, houses not oriented towards the street but built like it was in suburbia, probably only one use per building (with few exceptions).



For the most part, that's also the impression I have.

[The Chemist]

The main problem with Lujiazui is that it really doesn't get anything right (besides the skyline of course). It's neither friendly to cars or people. It's like a puzzle with all the pieces jammed in to the wrong places.

Going back to Shanghai Center; wow! What a hole.

Once all the construction is done, it'll be much friendlier to both, I think. :)

Over at SSC they've got pictures of the tower cranes going up.

[BStyles]

Posted by Patrykus on SkyscraperCity. Pictures by spruance, from gaoloumi.com:

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2010/4/20/P01.JPG

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2010/4/20/P02.JPG

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2010/4/20/P03.JPG

[Biff]

^^^ holy crap! Those are big pieces of steel. Anyone know what those would be for?......i know for the building but i have never seen beam structures like that before.

[JDRCRASH]

Alright the crane's up! :banana:

[SpeedoPro]

this is going to be an awesme building! I am sorry but can anyone tell me who designed it?

[peanut gallery]

IIRC, it was Gensler.

[Unilitha]

Can anyone tell me what's the ratio underground/aboveground for tower like this one ?

e.g. for 50m of height, foundations of minimum 10 m...

Because even though this hole is huge, it is probably around 30m heigh .... and it seems to me like peanut compared to the 630+30 m of the whole tower ...

Thanks ;)

[giallo]

Nice. The crane has arrived.

How long will it for construction to reach ground level? Any idea? I'm thinking it'll pop out of the hole at the end of the year.

[JDRCRASH]

How long will it for construction to reach ground level? Any idea? I'm thinking it'll pop out of the hole at the end of the year.

You mean December? Seems like a stretch. October, maybe?

[giallo]

I'd be happy if it was at ground level by October. It's possible for sure.

[HomeInMyShoes]

I'm literally giddy with anticipation.

[SpeedoPro]

Giallo, are you still in shanghai?

[steveve]

This thing could reach ground level by the end of the year... Afterall, China construction moves FAST! This project just started up SO fast! The last thing i remember was them unveiling the design! Now we're already on our why skywards! :cheers:

[giallo]

Giallo, are you still in shanghai?

Yup. I'm still in Shanghai. Actually, I'll be moving to a new place next month that'll give me a decent view of this tower rising.

[The Chemist]

Yes, I'd definitely say we'll see this reaching ground level by December at the latest. The pace they dug that foundation hole at was unbelievable, so I don't expect anything different for the underground level construction.

[xiahoudun]

I can't wait to see the construction myself. End of the summer I will be at the site frequently again to take pics. Will be my first time to go to the top of the SWFC too. Last time I was in Shanghai was just before the opening of SWFC.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

When can we expect that this one will top-out?

[The Chemist]

When can we expect that this one will top-out?

I'd guess late 2013, based on being above ground by the end of the year and a similar construction pace to SWFC (which took about 2.5 years to top out from the time it got above ground).

[T-Mac]

Update from skyscrapercity.com site:

http://abbs.cn/pic/2010/04/28/1272422882.jpg

[Indescribable]

You don't see a basement like that too often.

[O-Town Hockey]

Is all of Shanghai's business district this pedestrian-friendly? :yuck:

[T-Mac]

From MCFXM at skyscrapercity.com

http://abbs.cn/pic/2010/04/29/1272525751.jpg

[DigitalNinja]

Is all of Shanghai's business district this pedestrian-friendly? :yuck:

At least there are trees planted :P Most of the pedestrian stuff in Shanghai is on the otherside of the river as far as I know.

But you are right it could be improved.

[chex]

the site looks very clean now!

[JDRCRASH]

^ Which means it's time to go :skyscraper:

[village person]

^^^In the last photo posted, what are the little red-roofed buildings on the left? Some sort of temporary housing? Sorry if this has been answered. I don't want to go through 39 pages of the thread trying to find out!

[The Chemist]

^^^In the last photo posted, what are the little red-roofed buildings on the left? Some sort of temporary housing? Sorry if this has been answered. I don't want to go through 39 pages of the thread trying to find out!

They are the workers' dormitories. Pretty much every major construction project in Shanghai has on-site accommodation for the construction workers.

[Traynor]

^That would be poetic justice for all off-shift construction workers to be forced to listen to the sound of construction while they try to sleep.

I wish they would mandate worker housing like that in Toronto. I bet the guys would be a lot more considerate of the noise they make.

:D

[village person]

They are the workers' dormitories. Pretty much every major construction project in Shanghai has on-site accommodation for the construction workers.

Thanks! Those appear nicely built, too. In North America, ugly trailers strewn about construction sites is about the best temporary structures we seem to get. :yuck: It would be cool to see what the dorms look like inside, not to get too off-topic.

[Pizzuti]

^That would be poetic justice for all off-shift construction workers to be forced to listen to the sound of construction while they try to sleep.

I wish they would mandate worker housing like that in Toronto. I bet the guys would be a lot more considerate of the noise they make.

:D

I don't get how you're supposed to assemble, bolt and fuse a 1,500 5-ton steel beams together "quietly."

[Pizzuti]

Is all of Shanghai's business district this pedestrian-friendly? :yuck:

Yeah, the surface parking lots are awful. How funny that the movement in American cities built during the sprawl era is to get rid of the surface lots from 25 years ago, to build cozy storefronts pedestrian corridors and to revert to a walkable model of city living - rejecting a very "American" style of living - while China is happy to build enormous lots and commit to a heavily auto-oriented infrastructure.

[hammersklavier]

:previous: While at the same time China's been willing to invest many billions into their rail and public transit networks while here it's like pulling teeth to get so much as a cent for them...There's more than one task at hand to build a city; I wouldn't be surprised if the infill comes along soon enough.

[The Chemist]

Yeah, the surface parking lots are awful. How funny that the movement in American cities built during the sprawl era is to get rid of the surface lots from 25 years ago, to build cozy storefronts pedestrian corridors and to revert to a walkable model of city living - rejecting a very "American" style of living - while China is happy to build enormous lots and commit to a heavily auto-oriented infrastructure.

You don't know much about China, do you? While the government is spending a lot of money on building road infrastructure (most of which are toll roads, so you've got to play), they're also spending WAY more than the American government is on developing intracity Metro systems in at least 20 of the country's largest cities, PLUS building the world's largest and fastest HSR Intercity rail system. Committing to heavily auto-oriented infrastructure? Not in the least.

And as I've pointed out before, Lujiazui is one tiny area of the massive Shanghai municipality. You can't judge the entire city as 'auto-oriented' based on a district that accounts for less than 2% of the city's area and less than 0.2% of the municipality's area.

[francely57]

Is all of Shanghai's business district this pedestrian-friendly? :yuck:
Honestly in person it's not much worse than walking on René-Lévesque in downtown Montreal, or most car-oriented CBD streets.
In general, Pudong is way denser than it seems on these CBD pictures.


Yeah, the surface parking lots are awful. How funny that the movement in American cities built during the sprawl era is to get rid of the surface lots from 25 years ago, to build cozy storefronts pedestrian corridors and to revert to a walkable model of city living - rejecting a very "American" style of living - while China is happy to build enormous lots and commit to a heavily auto-oriented infrastructure.
China's enormous economy requires this new auto infrastructure, whereas the US already have it and still keep expanding.
I don't know how much "reverting back" is happening, but we have a lot of work to do, considering our ridiculous density levels (I live in suburban Montreal :yuck: )

The Chemist already said it, but as a North American, I can confirm that: in 2010 China's mass transit already DESTROYS North America's, and guess what... most of their big cities will see their transit network double-triple-quadruple within the next 20 years.



Regarding Shanghai Tower, here are 2 pictures I took through heavy smog on November 14, 2009

Here it started getting hidden by Shanghai IFC (from the Oriental Pearl Tower)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_7467-1.jpg

On the left
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_7533.jpg

[speedy1979]

Honestly in person it's not much worse than walking on René-Lévesque in downtown Montreal, or most car-oriented CBD streets.
In general, Pudong is way denser than it seems on these CBD pictures.



China's enormous economy requires this new auto infrastructure, whereas the US already have it and still keep expanding.
I don't know how much "reverting back" is happening, but we have a lot of work to do, considering our ridiculous density levels (I live in suburban Montreal :yuck: )

The Chemist already said it, but as a North American, I can confirm that: in 2010 China's mass transit already DESTROYS North America's, and guess what... most of their big cities will see their transit network double-triple-quadruple within the next 20 years.



Regarding Shanghai Tower, here are 2 pictures I took through heavy smog on November 14, 2009

Here it started getting hidden by Shanghai IFC (from the Oriental Pearl Tower)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_7467-1.jpg

On the left
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_7533.jpg

Is that a combination of fog and smog or is that straight smog? That looks like a picture of LA back in the 70's and 80's. Doesn't even look breathable.

[The Chemist]

^It's mostly fog...

Shanghai's air quality is actually pretty good for a city of 20 million people.

[The North One]

Is it really always THAT smoggy, how can people there even breath?

there is no way i could ever live there.

[Aleks]

the post above you just said it was fog. please read posts. :sly:

i dont think any city has air pollution that bad.

[NYguy]

Update from skyscrapercity.com site:

http://abbs.cn/pic/2010/04/28/1272422882.jpg

One thing they can do is cover up that parking lot with something. Even though I don't like the concept of towers in a park, it's better than surface parking. Ideally, I would say put some smaller towers there. That would solve the problem, plus increase the impact of these enormously tall towers going up...:tup:

[upNaway]

any new photos to add ? they must be doing well with foundations :) cant wait

[BStyles]

jamyan (posted by MCFXM, gaoloumi.com):

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/927/86668635.jpg

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9167/36920690.jpg

[JDRCRASH]

Great photos! :banana:

[Rise To The Top]

One thing they can do is cover up that parking lot with something. Even though I don't like the concept of towers in a park, it's better than surface parking. Ideally, I would say put some smaller towers there. That would solve the problem, plus increase the impact of these enormously tall towers going up...:tup:

The surface parking is temporary, won't be there in a few years once ST is done. The surface parking is helping serve people working on the project and overflow from SWFC. Once ST has their underground parking open most of that space will be taken over by green (from what I have heard). Would be nice to have low rises, but I'm certain that they won't.

[Zerton]

the post above you just said it was fog. please read posts. :sly:

i dont think any city has air pollution that bad.


Looks like smog. Remember London "fog" was actually smog.

[seadragon]

Aleks says "i dont think any city has air pollution that bad."

That's because you have never been to China. I have spent allot of time in Shanghai during the summer and they don't get fog there in the summer like in San Francisco or Los Angeles (marine layer). The times I've been in Shanghai during the fall and winter will bring some fog when cold which it can get, as I have seen it snow in Shanghai on a few occasions.

If fact, there have been many days in Beijing, Xian and Shanghai that make the worst days in San Fernando Valley look like Montana. I have seen the air so bad in Xian and Beijing where the street lights come on in the day time, like London in the days of old.

In Shanghai, there is a large coal fire power plant north of the Bund and numerous steel mills and ship yards along the Huangpu river. Also, the ship traffic along the river produces large volumes of air pollution since the marine traffic burns a very low grade of crude oil.

Every time I fly to mainland China, I can see the air quality start to diminish in quality from over 400 miles away. Also, if you fly between Taiwan and Japan will notice that the air over the Pacific Ocean from over 300 miles away is frequently mired with smog drifting from mainland China.

As for the population, the metro area of Shanghai is very small relative to the urban sprawl in the USA and account for nearly 20 million people. But, given an area around the Chang Jiang (Yantze) delta equal to metro Los Angeles, going from Oxnard to Redlands down to Camp Pendleton, a comparable area in China would have Metro Shanghai reaching out to Nanjing and down to Hangzhou. Using that area as a reference would mean accounting for nearly 80 million people. Breaking down as follows.

City_________Metro Pop._____Date_____Source

Changshu______1,047,700_____2005_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changshu
Changzhou_____4,452,000_____2009_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changzhou
Guangde_________510,000_____unkn_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangde_County
Hangzhou______8,100,000_____2009_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangzhou
Huzhou________2,625,600_____unkn_____www.travelchinaguide.com/cityguides/zhejiang/huzhou/
Maanshan________300,000_____unkn_____www.planetware.com/china/maanshan-chn-ah-m.htm
Nanjing_______7,713,100_____2009_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing
Nantong_______7,737,900_____2008_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nantong
Shanghai_____19,210,000_____2009_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai
Suzhou________6,332,900_____2009_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzhou
Wuhu__________2,268,800_____2010_____www.travelchinaguide.com/cityguides/anhui/wuhu/
Wuxi__________4,471,900_____unkn_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuxi
Xuancheng_______450,000_____2010_____www.travelchinaguide.com/cityguides/anhui/xuancheng/
Yangzhou______4,592,500_____2007_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangzhou
Zhenjiang_____2,672,100_____2008_____www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenjiang

Total Pop.___72,484,500 for an area the size of Los Angeles around Metro Shanghai

Aleks says "the post above you just said it was fog. please read posts"

It's not good to be so arrogant and having that based from ignorance.

[xiahoudun]

I would like to see some updates. Could someone go to the site and take a few pics for us?

[BStyles]

By jamyan, abbs.cn

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[Zoe]

I learned yesterday that this concrete job was crazy. 120 cement trucks an hour non stop. They had 11 pump trucks doing the job

[BStyles]

by jamyan, abbs.cn

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I think the steel is at street level.

[brenGT2]

I still can't get a feel for the size of those super-columns. I know they are large, but I just can't grasp how huge they are. The progress is rapid on this one!

[colemonkee]

^ Sure you can. Look just to the right of the steel column on the bottom left of the picture. That tiny orangish object in front of the steel "wall" is a construction worker. So that wall itself is about 2 stories high, and the steel column next to it roughly 4 stories high. Those steel columns are absolutely massive.

[brenGT2]

^ Sure you can. Look just to the right of the steel column on the bottom left of the picture. That tiny orangish object in front of the steel "wall" is a construction worker. So that wall itself is about 2 stories high, and the steel column next to it roughly 4 stories high. Those steel columns are absolutely massive.

I didn't even see that guy! That definitely puts it into perspective for me. Thanks.

[BStyles]

By Jamyan:
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[xiahoudun]

Wow! Great progress :)

[Fabb]

There were rumours that the construction would be interrupted during the Shanghai World expo. Thankfully, that wasn't true.

[Traynor]

Wow! Those mega-columns are massive. I also notice that they are slightly angled inwards from the vertical. Which is foretelling of the shape of the tower to come.

[kenratboy]

That is some serious steel! This building will be a pleasure to see rise.

[BStyles]

New images on Flickr:
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