[Distill3d]

if this doesnt motivate the oilers...i dont know what will...a house in Edmonton taken by me.

http://www.dc5ab.com/forums/uploads/post-63-1172010488.jpg



yes, that should. but like the oilers playoff hopes this year, when it gets warm, they will melt...

[Calgarian]

Another sad effort by the Flames on the road, these boys better get this thing figured out and soon.

[The Chemist]

It's coaching. It's got to be. The Flames have talent in spades - but they're not living up to their billing on the road. If they had a coach like Lindy Ruff or Randy Carlyle, they'd be top of the league. Sutter can't let this go on any longer - it's embarassing, and it's ruining our chance to win the Cup this year.

[ProudlyCanadian]

Ugh,

This reminds me of the canucks 05/06 crash and burn.

p.s.

Ference is playing awesome hockey in Boston.

[Calgarian]

Ugh,

This reminds me of the canucks 05/06 crash and burn.

p.s.

Ference is playing awesome hockey in Boston.

Yeah, but Stuart is doing pretty good here. If the Flames miss the playoffs, Playfair will get canned for sure.

[francely57]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/space/asteroids.html

Maybe someone has posted this before... Anyway, outside of getting worried, you can find 2 mentions of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

[Distill3d]

It's coaching. It's got to be. The Flames have talent in spades - but they're not living up to their billing on the road. If they had a coach like Lindy Ruff or Randy Carlyle, they'd be top of the league. Sutter can't let this go on any longer - it's embarassing, and it's ruining our chance to win the Cup this year.


Its coaching for sure. Its this line change mix up thing. we have no secure 1st line. The Flames go through more line changes in a week then I do cups of coffee. We know who gels together, so lets keep it that way and put Iginla, Conroy and Huselius on our permanent first line. then lets back it up with a strong second line of Tangauy, Langkow and Amonte. is it that hard to figure it out?

I think maybe if they let us wear the Red jerseys away from home too, then we'll when some games. :tup:

[feepa]

I think there may have been as many Oilers fans in Kanata last night for the Sens/Oil Games as Senators fans....

You could clearly hear the Oil fans booo everytime comrie touched the puck, and Lets go Oilers was heard clearly on TV several times too. A few times when a penalty should have been called against the Sens, you could hear the crowd boo the officials.

[Calgarian]

I think there may have been as many Oilers fans in Kanata last night for the Sens/Oil Games as Senators fans....

You could clearly hear the Oil fans booo everytime comrie touched the puck, and Lets go Oilers was heard clearly on TV several times too. A few times when a penalty should have been called against the Sens, you could hear the crowd boo the officials.

I think the Oilers do have a pretty big fan base nation wide. I wonder who is more popular outside of Alberta, Calgary or Edmonton.

[feepa]

I think the Oilers do have a pretty big fan base nation wide. I wonder who is more popular outside of Alberta, Calgary or Edmonton.

Well, Up until the latest cup run for the Flames, I would have said that its clearly the Oilers, but now, I think the Flames have about the same, or just slightly less.

[Calgarian]

Well, Up until the latest cup run for the Flames, I would have said that its clearly the Oilers, but now, I think the Flames have about the same, or just slightly less.

I would agree with that. if we can get our road game sorted out and win the cup that we should have won in '04, we will definately have the bigger fanbase :D

[401_King]

I wonder who is more popular outside of Alberta, Calgary or Edmonton.

Edmonton. its not even close.

[Calgarian]

I've said it before, Sports is definately the one area where Edmonton has Calgary's number.

[bayrider]

I think there may have been as many Oilers fans in Kanata last night for the Sens/Oil Games as Senators fans....

You could clearly hear the Oil fans booo everytime comrie touched the puck, and Lets go Oilers was heard clearly on TV several times too. A few times when a penalty should have been called against the Sens, you could hear the crowd boo the officials.

It's a known fact that Ottawa doesn't have any real fans. Ever seen a Habs/Sens game in Kanata? They might as well be away games for the Hens.

Whenever the Hens score, or there is something to be excited about, the most you'll get out of the fans is a golf applause.

[SHOFEAR]

Edmonton clearly has more of a love'm or hate'm following compared to the Flames. There are still are a large number of people who dislike the Oilers because of their past success. Meanwhile it's pretty hard for someone to have a strong emotional attachment to the Flames. Although they were a damn good team, the Oilers slaughtered them annually.

[Riise]

Edmonton. its not even close.

I think that's contestable. Just look at the number of white-collar/business folks that get transferred out of Calgary compared to Edmonton. Without a doubt the success of the Oilers in the 80's boosted their base outside of Edmonton but Calgary's mobile workforce and international exposure, relative to Edmonton's, has created a large fan base outside the city.

[401_King]

I think that's contestable. Just look at the number of white-collar/business folks that get transferred out of Calgary compared to Edmonton. Without a doubt the success of the Oilers in the 80's boosted their base outside of Edmonton but Calgary's mobile workforce and international exposure, relative to Edmonton's, has created a large fan base outside the city.

i never hear anything about the flames. no one ever, i mean EVER talks about them.

ppl still talk about the oilers here and there...they had the last greatest canadian dynasty...gretz, messier. the greatest flames (old) i could even think of are Gary Roberts, Niewndiek, Douggie Gilmour and L. Macdonald, but people only talk about them here in T.O because they are former leafs.

i think calgary fans try to hard to put themselves in a class with the oilers. its hilarious.


btw, this opinion is based purely on my conversations in T.O (someone outside the albertan province)

[Riise]

ppl still talk about the oilers here and there...they had the last greatest canadian dynasty...gretz, messier.

People in Toronto talking about non-Toronto subject matter!!! Where they immediately arrested!?!? ;) I get to look at a lot of Flames and Oilers games on tv and I usually see a lot of Flames fans in away arenas, more so than Oilers. Then when I go check CP I almost always here about one poster's trip to the game and how they met other Flames fans, usually people who have moved due to work. I've also travelled a fair bit and most other Canadians who have will say that when they say they're from Canada most people will ask if they're from Toronto, Vancouver, or Montreal. What I've noticed is that if the person asking says another city it's usually Calgary, most likely because of the Olympics, or Banff. Now if they end up liking hockey which team are they likely to choose? Most likely one from a city they know.

[shappy]

I think the Oilers are more known and respected (due to the Gretzky-/Messier-led dynasty). I really couldn't tell you much more about the Flames (of yore) other than Lanny and his stache.

[Calgarian]

I think the Oilers are more known and respected (due to the Gretzky-/Messier-led dynasty). I really couldn't tell you much more about the Flames (of yore) other than Lanny and his stache.

Really? you never heard of Theoren Fleury, Joe Nieuwendyk, Gary Roberts, Doug Gilmore...?

[shappy]

yeah, of course I heard of them (3 of those names were prominent Leafs!) However, compared to Gretzky, Messier, Fuhr, Coffey, etc... they're outshined.

[zerokarma]

no wonder baseball left montreal.

I still feel kind of bad Montreal lost their team but they really did get screwed that one year with the umpire strike, I really can't blame the fans there for giving up after that.

[Calgarian]

Baseball sucks, and has no place in Canada.

[401_King]

Baseball sucks, and has no place in Canada.

statements like this is what keeps canada's its ball and chain in non-hockey sports. hockey-only minded attitudes are one of my biggest pet peeves. i guess some people just don't know the joy that comes out of a baseball game.

[Calgarian]

statements like this is what keeps canada's its ball and chain in non-hockey sports. hockey-only minded attitudes are one of my biggest pet peeves. i guess some people just don't know the joy that comes out of a baseball game.

Or the sleep that comes from watching it.

[Calgarian]

What the hell is going on with the Flames right now? The last few games have been the worst all season! Suddenly making the playoffs will be more of a challenge than originally thought.

[The Chemist]

Goddammit! Another blown late lead! Another road loss! What the F-U-C-K is wrong with this bloody team? Have they decided they want early tee times in April or something?

Please, Darryl, come back and put some heart back in this team before it's too late. :gaah:

[feepa]

imagine the Oilers go on a tear here now, while the Flames continue to go down, and knock the flames or wild out.

[Wooster]

^ Could easily happen. The Oilers are showing signs of life and they see a struggling team ahead of them. That is all the motivation they need. They have hope.

FIRE PLAYFAIR. He is a terrible coach. We have not team defence, no motivation. The team has more talent than it has had since the glory years. Pathetic under achievers. They should be at the top of the league with these players.

[ProudlyCanadian]

Ugh, that last play was just horrible.

:(

I agree, playfair needs to go.

[habsfan]

I still feel kind of bad Montreal lost their team but they really did get screwed that one year with the umpire strike, I really can't blame the fans there for giving up after that.

You shouldn't feel bad. Most people here have moved on. It's not like there isn't anything else to do in the summer months!:cheers:

It wasn't the umpires, it was the Player's union who decided to go on strike in August 1994...just when the Expos had the best record in Baseball...and then you can add all the fire sales and you start to get a picture of what the fans had to endure for 10 years.


Or the sleep that comes from watching it.

So true. i have never been able to watch a complete game on television. When you're actually at the game it's slightly better, but watching an entire 9 inning game on TV is just too boring!

[Distill3d]

Ugh, that last play was just horrible.

:(

I agree, playfair needs to go.


someone needs to go. Playfair seems obvious. we need to start playing Darryl Sutter style, hard working, crash the net style hockey like we did during our run. if we don't we won't make the playoffs.

[SD]

I still feel kind of bad Montreal lost their team but they really did get screwed that one year with the umpire strike, I really can't blame the fans there for giving up after that.

With the exception of a few years, baseball was never really that well supported in Montreal anyways.

[Coldrsx]

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[zoomer]

Habs - All depends on Goaltending IMO....(5th)

Sens - looking good, depends on gerber (3rd)

Leafs - another disappointing effort (10th)

Hamilton - exciting young team with crosby:>

Flames - solid team, maybe can get more than 2 goals a game now (3rd)

Oilers - 3 killer lines, 300 goals, weak D, depends on Rolli (6th) *most exciting team to watch.

Nuks - wonder if coach gets fired 1st or trades happen (8-10th)

/\ Still waiting I guess... I'm not sure who I would rather have miss the playoffs...Flames or Oilers? Both?! ;)

[Calgarian]

Looks like the Flames want to miss the playoffs right now.

[basilbrush]

Oilers still have lots of work cut out for them. They will probably need to win 44 games minimum to make the playoffs based on the remaining schedule.
If they can beat the Wild and the Flames in the next few games, then that would be something to get excited about.

[ProudlyCanadian]

Don't the oilers play the wild like six more times?

[feepa]

Don't the oilers play the wild like six more times?

Oilers still have lots of work cut out for them. They will probably need to win 44 games minimum to make the playoffs based on the remaining schedule.
If they can beat the Wild and the Flames in the next few games, then that would be something to get excited about.

The oilers are 5 pts behind Calgary, and 7 behind Minn. Calgary has a game at hand on the Oilers. Oilers play Minnesota 5 times before the end of the season yet, and Calgary twice. Anything is still very possible. The "Almighty" Flames as some of you would have them around here, are 1 win and 3 ties ahead of the Oilers. If you Flames fans don't think the Oilers could very easily switch spots with the Flames in the next 20 games, please, tell me the source of what you've been smoking, I sure would like to get my hands on some

[Calgarian]

I think if the Flames lose tonight, they will be in real trouble.

Most teams have 19-20 games left. here are the standings heading down the home stretch.

East GP W L OT PTS GF GA
1. Buffalo 61 41 15 5 87 229 176
2. New Jersey 62 38 18 6 82 167 147
3. Tampa Bay * 63 35 25 3 73 201 195
4. Pittsburgh 60 33 18 9 75 210 188
5. Ottawa 61 35 22 4 74 209 166
6. Atlanta 63 31 22 10 72 192 200
7. NY Islanders 62 31 23 8 70 183 174
8. Montreal 64 32 26 6 70 186 192

9. Carolina 63 31 25 7 69 189 197
10. Toronto 61 29 23 9 67 193 198
11. Boston 60 30 26 4 64 176 214
12. NY Rangers 61 29 26 6 64 178 175
13. Florida 62 23 26 13 59 173 200
14. Washington 62 24 28 10 58 186 216
15. Philadelphia 61 16 36 9 41 159 230

West GP W L OT PTS GF GA

1. Detroit * 62 39 16 7 85 192 151
2. Anaheim * 62 35 17 10 80 196 162
3. Vancouver * 61 36 21 4 76 163 154
4. Nashville 62 40 18 4 84 211 158
5. San Jose 61 38 22 1 77 183 152
6. Dallas 60 36 21 3 75 163 145
7. Minnesota 62 34 23 5 73 177 160
8. Calgary 61 31 21 9 71 193 165

9. Edmonton 62 30 26 6 66 171 178
10. Colorado 61 29 28 4 62 197 194
11. St. Louis 61 26 26 9 61 160 185
12. Phoenix 61 26 32 3 55 163 209
13. Chicago 61 22 30 9 53 149 185
14. Columbus 61 23 32 6 52 150 191
15. Los Angeles 62 20 32 10 50 172 214

[feepa]

Well, tables really start turning if Calgary loses to SJ (especially in Regulation) and Edm beat Minn tomorrow (in regulation)
You can bet, I'll be scoreboard watching tonight. Go San Jose, and go Kings tonight!

[SHOFEAR]

ohhhhh CBC.....

A couple days after, what many are saying was the most entertaining game in the last ten years, you decide to force feed us the Leafs rather than the rematch of Buffalo Ottawa.

[Arriviste]

/\--I am hoping that someone out here has a torrent for that game. I want to DL it BADLY!

[Calgarian]

What the fuck happened to our defense!?! Our top 4 is better than any team in the league. hands down. 4 goals against in the 2nd period? :whatthefuck:

[Calgarian]

I was worried after that second period, but 3 3rd period goals bailed us out. You got your work cut out for you deadmonton!

[Riise]

Another seven goal game... It's only a matter of time before some commentator says the Flames still have trouble scoring!

[feepa]

Another seven goal game... It's only a matter of time before some commentator says the Flames still have trouble scoring!

you asked for it.

Wow, the Flames are sure making up for the lack of goals they had in the first 1/5 - 1/4th of the season, and how

Few good games last night, OTT/BUF was amazing, Cal/SJ was fun to watch (gasp, did I just admit that), even Tor/Pitts looked like it had some potential

[Calgarian]

you asked for it.

Wow, the Flames are sure making up for the lack of goals they had in the first 1/5 - 1/4th of the season, and how

Few good games last night, OTT/BUF was amazing, Cal/SJ was fun to watch (gasp, did I just admit that), even Tor/Pitts looked like it had some potential


I wish i could have seen the Ottata / Buffalo game. The Toronto / Philly game was kind of boring.

[feepa]

I wish i could have seen the Ottata / Buffalo game. The Toronto / Philly game was kind of boring.

Thank god for time shifting, and the fact that I get CBC Ottawa.

[Calgarian]

Good to see Edmonton and Vancouver lose today (even though Van got a point) Calgary could still win the division.

[RHINO]

Vancouvers in ability to stay out of the box cost us the game . Slaps Coach Rick B.

[Calgarian]

Holy shit! a Vancouver forumer on the NHL thread!?!

[Lead]

k calmed down a bit now but they really need to trade boulis for the sake of this team...

[Calgarian]

the Jekyl and Hyde show continues.

[The Chemist]

Will the Flames make a deal tomorrow? I'm leaning towards no, but Roger Millions on Sportsnet was insistent on yes.

[skrish]

Will the Flames make a deal tomorrow? I'm leaning towards no, but Roger Millions on Sportsnet was insistent on yes.

I don't think so, but with Sutter who knows.

[Calgarian]

Will the Flames make a deal tomorrow? I'm leaning towards no, but Roger Millions on Sportsnet was insistent on yes.

Roger Millions is an idiot.

[Wooster]

Well the Calgary Jekylls won again tonight. Shocker.

I predict minor trade activity for the flames, picking up some depth.

[Calgarian]

Looks like Gary Roberts waived his no trade clause, and will be joining the Pittsburgh Penguins. With that added depth and leadership look for the Pens to make a run at the cup.

[Riise]

I say we bring back the Eliminator! And trade in Amonte for a set of new Zamboni tyres... Okay, I know that won't happen. Only because we have an Olympia not a Zamboni.

[Calgarian]

Amonte hasn't been too bad as of late, Friesen however, we should trade him for a new puck bag, or a shooter tudor.

[Distill3d]

Amonte hasn't been too bad as of late, Friesen however, we should trade him for a new puck bag, or a shooter tudor.


Since ST. Louis is having a firesale right now, i say Calgary unloads Friesen and Ritchie. theres a good waste of $2 million we could use on Bill Guerin. to have a little more fun, we could unload Nilson on NY Islanders for Chris Simon and a couple draft picks.

[habsfan]

Where are all the Leaf fans???:tup:

[circle33]

Right here.

[habsfan]

Right here.

Hehehe!:cheers: :tup:

Good game last night..too bad both goalies sucked!

[circle33]

I only saw the third. Fun 'til the final buzzer.

[Calgarian]

Since ST. Louis is having a firesale right now, i say Calgary unloads Friesen and Ritchie. theres a good waste of $2 million we could use on Bill Guerin. to have a little more fun, we could unload Nilson on NY Islanders for Chris Simon and a couple draft picks.

Guerin would be a really good pick up, Simon would probably cost us more than Nilson.

[feepa]

Laraque rumoured to go to Calgary or Pittsburgh...

[feepa]

Biron has been traded from Buffalo, but for who, to where and when, nobody knows.

[Distill3d]

Gary Roberts to Pitsburgh for Noah Welch.

so the Pens get some leadership and experience, as well as a proven 20+ goal scorer and the Cats get a rookie defensemen who has potential to be a good fourth liner. seems a little lop sided. but i guess Florida is looking long term with Welch...

[feepa]

a fourth line defensemen?

I thought line ups were usually 4 Offensive lines, and 3 defensive pairings, with sometimes a 7th defensemen just in case?

[jeffwhit]

^^ to Philly for a pick (undisclosed) then they got Conklin from Columbus.

[habsfan]

Laraque rumoured to go to Calgary or Pittsburgh...

Laraque was traded to Pittsburgh!

[Coldrsx]

Laraques to Pitts...

[Calgarian]

Why the hell would the Flames pick up Laraque? Godard has done a pretty good job as our tough guy.

maybe they want a little more of this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FLeje3jc6KM

Edit. Laraque to Pittsburgh makes sense. The NHL heavyweight protecting the best player.

[feepa]

Hey it was just a rumour floating around about Laraque to Calgary (or Pitts, which came true)

Sure, he may be a heavyweight, but hes the biggest heavyweight softy there is. In his last few seasons with the Oil, he barely dropped the gloves. He has barely any offensive ability, and wanted far too much for what hes worth.

[jeffwhit]

I don't know why that Laraque deal seemed to tough for the Pens to decide on, he's by far the best enforcer in the league, and Crosby is getting hacked and high sticked left and right.

[feepa]

I don't know why that Laraque deal seemed to tough for the Pens to decide on, he's by far the best enforcer in the league, and Crosby is getting hacked and high sticked left and right.
Maybe the Pens wanted someone who would actually fight and be an enforcer. Laraque really hasn't been that person in the last many seasons, and one of the reasons he hasn't seen much ice time in Phx in the last 2 months.

[feepa]

TSN reporting that Guerin has been traded, but to where - not disclosed yet...

[Coldrsx]

^dont forget you can put laraques in front of the net and have crosby and malkin walk around and shoot

[Calgarian]

Guerin is a Shark

[Coldrsx]

Sharks are really strong.....

[Coldrsx]

they just showed a clip "live at rexall" with the morning skate, smyth is on the ice....signing him i guess.

[jeffwhit]

Maybe the Pens wanted someone who would actually fight and be an enforcer. Laraque really hasn't been that person in the last many seasons, and one of the reasons he hasn't seen much ice time in Phx in the last 2 months.

You think that if Therrien tells Laraque to beat the 'ell out anyone who takes liberties with Crosby he's not going to?

[jeffwhit]

Guerin is a Shark

F me.

[feepa]

Bertuzzi to Anaheim? (pure rumour, but seenig as Burke just lost out on the Guerin sweepstakes, and his familiarity with Bert.... rumour makes sense)

[Calgarian]

they just showed a clip "live at rexall" with the morning skate, smyth is on the ice....signing him i guess.

Why would the Oilers want to trade Smyth? he is your franchise player, and he want's to be an Oiler.

[feepa]

You think that if Therrien tells Laraque to beat the 'ell out anyone who takes liberties with Crosby he's not going to?

You think that if Gretz couldn't get Laraque to fight, Therrien is going to achieve better success? Apparently rumour has it that Laraque told Gretz to f off

[Coldrsx]

"Why would the Oilers want to trade Smyth? he is your franchise player, and he want's to be an Oiler."

trade him to a contender for a solid prospect, then sign him in the off season and bring him back.

[jeffwhit]

^^ That would be a mildly stupid risk to take...

[feepa]

^^ That would be a mildly stupid risk to take...

mildly is the understatement of the year.

[Coldrsx]

apparently there is an offer for ryan smyth, not sure who, but it is on the table for the oilers...

[sync]

hey, weight did it last year with the canes.

i have no problem letting smyth go for the next few weeks if he's going to resign with the oilers in the off season.

i guess it depends how sweet that offer on the table is.

[Coldrsx]

hey, weight did it last year with the canes.

i have no problem letting smyth go for the next few weeks if he's going to resign with the oilers in the off season.

i guess it depends how sweet that offer on the table is.



bingo

[Calgarian]

watch him get traded and decide he likes his new team better. That would be funny, back to the drawing board for the Oil lol.

[feepa]

watch him get traded and decide he likes his new team better. That would be funny, back to the drawing board for the Oil lol.
Would be much like trading iginla, and hoping he would want to come back.

Rumour is on the table that smyth is about to sign 5 years @ 22 M
5 m
5 m
4.5m
4.5m
3.5m

[jeffwhit]

^^ That must be the offer from the Oilers though.

I'm betting Meehan is asking more like

1. $5.5
2. $5.5
3. $5.5
4. $5
5. $5

Smyth's going to want and deserves a way better deal than Shane Doan.

[Calgarian]

Would be much like trading iginla, and hoping he would want to come back.

Rumour is on the table that smyth is about to sign 5 years @ 22 M
5 m
5 m
4.5m
4.5m
3.5m

Sutter would never trade Iginla unless he absolutely had to.

That contract for Smyth sounds about right.

[The Chemist]

^Despite how happy Bruce Dowbiggin would be if Iggy was traded, he's not going anywhere, and won't likely ever be traded. He's the face of the Flames, and I would be very surprised if he didn't spend his entire career wearing the Flaming C.

I'd be very surprised if the Oilers traded Smyth.

[sync]

the list of UFA's for the flames in the next few years is going to make it extremely hard for sutter to hold the current team together.