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Citrus-Fruit
10-09-2006, 02:46 PM
What are your city's top 10 tallest proposed/approved or built?

Minato Ku
10-09-2006, 07:09 PM
For Paris is really dificult to many towers are proposed
(300m 400m 240m etc..)

But only built under in construction and approuved is possible

Paris urban area

1 Eiffel tower 324 m 1063 ft 1889
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/eif18.jpg

2 EDIT Generalli Tower approved 308 m 1010.5 ft 2011
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9076/usersutilisateurdesktopune145ah9.jpg

3 Tour Assur
renovation approuved 159 m at 225 m 541 ft at 726 ft 2009
http://www.cogedim-entreprise.com/img/encours_gm/TOUR-CB31.jpg

4 Tour Montparnasse 210 m 689 ft 1973
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/mpr02.jpg

5 Tour Total 187 m 614 ft 1985
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/elf14.jpg

6 Tour T1 185 m 607 ft 2007
Under in Construction
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/t1003.jpg

7 Tour Areva 184 m 604 ft 1974
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/are01.jpg

8 Tour Granite 184 m 600 ft 2007
Under in Construction
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/gra02.jpg

9 Tour Gan 179 m 587 ft 1974
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/gan03.jpg

10 Tour Chassagne 167 m 548 ft 1995
Twin Towers Societe General
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/sg001.jpg

11 Tour Alicante 167 m 548 ft 1995
Twin Towers Societe General
http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/sg005.jpg

Metropolitan
10-10-2006, 03:09 AM
Well, at the same height as the EDF Tower (165m), there's also the Collange-Front de Seine twin towers. An approved project which is planned to begin its construction by 2007.

http://ladefense.free.fr/levallois.jpg

Newcastle Kid
10-10-2006, 07:44 PM
For Paris is really dificult to many towers are proposed
(300m 400m 240m etc..)

But only built under in construction and approuved is possible



Come on there isn't that many. No more than other places in Europe.

Newcastle Kid
10-10-2006, 07:44 PM
London

1. Shard/London Bridge, 310m
(Possibly the tallest skyscraper in western Europe, IMO definately the most beautiful;) Now fully funded and tenants are secured)

http://www.thelpr.com/images/fullsize/property/P057.jpg

2. Bishopsgate Tower , 288m

(Stunning design, will be 2nd tallest building in the UK. Small Works already underway)

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2839TheBishopsgateTower_pic4.jpg

3. Heron Tower, 242m (to spire)
(Soaring, elegent, yet simple. Preperatory works underway for the tower and the current building's demolition. Talks of a second height increase)

http://www.thelpr.com/images/fullsize/property/P051.jpg

4. 1 Canada Square, 235m

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Night_canary_wharf_london.jpg

5. Leadenhall Building, 225m
(Just 3 months to demolition of current site, tower to be built without tenants)

http://i12.tinypic.com/2dkiyj6.jpg

6. North Quay Development (2 towers), 216m

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/51NorthQuayTower1_pic1.jpg

7. Riverside South Development (2 towers), 214m

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/53RiversideSouthTower1_pic5.jpg

8. HSBC World HQ, 200m

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/pglondoncityhsbc.jpg

9. Citigroup European HQ, 200m

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1c/Canary_Wharf_Station.jpg/399px-Canary_Wharf_Station.jpg

10. Tower 42, 183m

http://skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/57Tower42_pic1.jpg

If I include all towers (Including twins and ones in pre planning) it looks like this:

1. Shard/London Bridge (310m)
2. Bishopsgate Tower (288m)
3. Heron Tower (242m)
4. 1 Canada Square (235m)
5. Glengall Bridge (230m)
6. Leadenhall Building (225m)
7. North Quay T1 (216m)
8. Riverside South T1 (214m)
9. North Quay T3 (203m)
10. 20 Blackfriars road (200m)

niko333
10-10-2006, 07:51 PM
wow London! But I think 300+ Towers a somehow too high for an old Europen City. Don't you think it will totally destroy the historic skyline of London.
I'm not a too big fan of really tall skyscrapers in the inner City Districts of European capitals.
But the Quality of the single buildings is very high, way better that other towers in other Cities.

BenL
10-10-2006, 08:34 PM
What skyline? London has notable buildings just as the Houses of Parliament and St. Pauls which command views from the area around it but very few buildings which can be seen across the whole city - and there is no real collection of all London's historic buildings. The last time London had a "real" skyline was arguably in the 17th century, when St. Pauls Cathederal was the iconic centrepiece and Wren's other churches backed up the cluster. Since then, all other buildings built in the City of London reached and surpassed the height of the churches and in the 60s, with a hoard of brutalist towers, St. Pauls became considerably less noticeable.

London is a city that consistently reinvents itself. Perhaps more than any other major world city, it has taken the best of all major Western styles of architecture in the last 1000 years: We have castles, cathederals in the Notre Dame-style and with huge domes and mock-gothic Victorian behemoths, yet we also have some truly world class modern architecture - The London Eye, the Gherkin, Wembley and the Millennium Dome are some of the more famous examples already built with a whole load following them in the near future.

I don't think of London as an old city really. It is too dynamic, too constantly evolving to be old. Old implies it is past it somehow, that it is senile. Visit the city for yourself Niko and you will see that that is simply not true.

Metropolitan
10-11-2006, 02:35 AM
Come on there isn't that many. No more than other places in Europe.Actually, outside the renovated AXA tower (225m), there are indeed at least three other towers above 200 meters to be built only in La Défense (the tallest one being most likely between 280m and 350m).

Those projects have already been approved, we already know their location, but as there are contests of architecture for their design, there's no rendering yet. However, it can indeed go rather fast, as there's not all the troubles about property and leasing as in London.

Newcastle Kid
10-11-2006, 12:30 PM
Yes, but still there are not so many as to warrent not listing them, that is just lazyness. There are 9 or 10+ towers planned in London, and that sure isn't too many to list.

brisavoine
10-11-2006, 01:32 PM
The reason why he can't list them is not because he's lazy, but simply because we don't have renderings yet, and in some cases approval is still pending.

Wait until mid-November and we should have the first renderings, at which point the top five will look like this:
1. Iconic ("signal") Tower: (300m to 400m)
2. Eiffel Tower (300m)
3. Generali Tower (240m)
4. Assur Tower (225m)
5. Montparnasse Tower (210m)

Wait until Christmas, and we should know if the Issy-les-Moulineaux local council approve the Hypergreen Tower, at which point the top five could look like this:
1. Iconic ("signal") Tower: (300m to 400m)
2. Eiffel Tower (300m)
3. Hypergreen Tower (246m)
4. Generali Tower (240m)
5. Assur Tower (225m)

Wait until next year and we should have several other towers above 200m in La Défense. Right now, only those working for the La Défense Authority know exactly the details.

giena
10-11-2006, 03:21 PM
Vilnius

1 Vilnius TV Tower 326.4m 1980
http://ap-algorithms.com/images/tv_bokstas.jpg

2 Europe Tower 128.9m 2004
http://img44.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Vilnius/IMG_3643.jpg

3 Helios City Tower 1 96m 2006
http://www.helios.lt/media/images/photo/popupasVienas.jpg

4 Europe Square Apartments 95m 2004
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/maxas/9993719c.jpg

5 Reval Hotel Lietuva 85m 1983
http://www.ambertrip.com/reda/images/stories/hotel.jpg

6 Vyrokas Apartments 80m 2009

7 Vilnius Municipal Center 76.8m 2004
http://www.elektroskandia.lt/uimg/projek/europa.jpg

8 Victoria Tower 76.3m 2006
http://www.ober-haus.lt/file.php?id=340

9 YIT Kausta Apartments 75m 2006

10 Zirgo Apartements 71m 2004
http://www.comliet.com/com/repository/projects/Zirgo%20g%202.JPG

Newcastle Kid
10-11-2006, 04:05 PM
The reason why he can't list them is not because he's lazy, but simply because we don't have renderings yet, and in some cases approval is still pending.

Wait until mid-November and we should have the first renderings, at which point the top five will look like this:
1. Iconic ("signal") Tower: (300m to 400m)
2. Eiffel Tower (300m)
3. Generali Tower (240m)
4. Assur Tower (225m)
5. Montparnasse Tower (210m)

Wait until Christmas, and we should know if the Issy-les-Moulineaux local council approve the Hypergreen Tower, at which point the top five could look like this:
1. Iconic ("signal") Tower: (300m to 400m)
2. Eiffel Tower (300m)
3. Hypergreen Tower (246m)
4. Generali Tower (240m)
5. Assur Tower (225m)

Wait until next year and we should have several other towers above 200m in La Défense. Right now, only those working for the La Défense Authority know exactly the details.

There you go, you just listed them. Not all of the London towers that I showed are approved, you know. And you don't NEED renders to list them, really.

brisavoine
10-11-2006, 04:29 PM
It's not just that we don't have renderings. In some cases we don't even know the exact height, as with the Iconic ("signal") Tower, and in other cases we simply know close to nothing. What we know is that they should build 7 to 10 significant skyscrapers (i.e. not 150m) in La Défense before 2013 (including the "signal" Tower and the Generali Tower), they should build 1 to 3 skyscrapers in Issy-les-Moulineaux, 2 skyscrapers in Levallois-Perret, ? skyscrapers in Saint-Denis, next to the Stade de France, and perhaps even some skyscrapers in the City of Paris itself (the site on the Avenue de France, in the 13th arrondissement, is rumored for a skyscraper). So no wonder Minato Ku can't give a definite list.

DiggerD21
10-12-2006, 11:54 PM
For Hamburg there were some skyscrapers planned but they were never realised and won't be realised. And currently there is only one concrete project underway which will make it into the top 10.

Hamburg's 10 highest buildings (note: the churches date back until the 12th-14th century, but often rebuilt due to war damages and serious accidents. Therefore I mention only the date of the latest complete reconstruction.):

1. Heinrich-Hertz-Turm (TV-Tower), 280m, built 1968
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Heinrich-Hertz-Turm.jpg/450px-Heinrich-Hertz-Turm.jpg

2. Tower of the St-Nikolai church ruin, 147m, built 1874 (it was the world's highest building until 1877)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Nikolaikirche_Hamburg_von_Nikolaibruecke.jpg/387px-Nikolaikirche_Hamburg_von_Nikolaibruecke.jpg

3. St. Michaelis church, 132m, built 1786, after a fire in 1906 restored until 1912, Hamburg's Landmark building
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/5/55/Hamburg_St._Michaelis_01_KMJ.jpg/421px-Hamburg_St._Michaelis_01_KMJ.jpg

4. St. Petri church, 132m, built 1878
http://www.arrakeen.ch/europe/011%20%20St.Petri%20church.JPG

5. St. Jacobi church, 125m, built 1963, with a little part of the church dating back to the year 1438
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/c/c1/Hh-st-jacobi.jpg/450px-Hh-st-jacobi.jpg

6. Radisson SAS Hotel, 120m, built 1973
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Hh-radisson.jpg/180px-Hh-radisson.jpg

7. St. Katharinen church, 115m, built 1957
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/4/4f/Hamburg_St._Katharinen_01_KMJ.jpg/180px-Hamburg_St._Katharinen_01_KMJ.jpg

8. City Hall, 112m, built 1897
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Hamburger_Rathaus_von_St-Petri.jpg/791px-Hamburger_Rathaus_von_St-Petri.jpg

9. Mundsburg Towers, 97 - 101m, built 1973
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/9/9c/Hh-mundsburgturme.jpg/180px-Hh-mundsburgturme.jpg

10. Elbphilharmonie (Music Hall), 95m, approved, scheduled for 2008-09, marketed as Hamburg's future Landmark building
http://www.stiftung-elbphilharmonie.de/images/eph/download/West_Ansicht_Nacht.jpg

eryk512
10-15-2006, 07:38 PM
Warsaw ten tallest


1. Palace of Culture and Science - 231m, 42 floors built in 1955
http://www.belle.art.pl/neon/galeria/44.jpg


2.Warsaw Trade Tower - 208m, 43 floors built in 1999
http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/wtt17.htm


3.Rondo 1 - 191m, 40 floors built in 2006
http://www.ewarszawa.com/foto/379.jpg


4.Złota 44/ Orco Tower - 192m, 45 floors under construction (finish 2009)
http://www.orcogroup.pl/data/fotogalerie/e3117f7b-fa36-49c4-a2dc-f15ae628f6c7/images/1_Zlota-44_2.jpg


5.Hotel Marriot - 170m, 40 floors built in 1989
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/c/cd/Marriott07.jpg/450px-Marriott07.jpg


6.Warsaw Financial Center - 165m, 34 floors built in 1998
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Warsaw_Financial_Center_WFC.jpg/450px-Warsaw_Financial_Center_WFC.jpg

In Warsaw is going to built residential building. It will have ~160 m but i don't have photos so it is under the list. When it will be built = 6 position on the list

8.

7.Intercontinental - 164m, 45 floors built in 2004
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/d/d9/InterContinental_Warsaw_day.jpg/450px-InterContinental_Warsaw_day.jpg


8.Oxford Tower - 150 m, floors 42 built in 1979
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/a/ac/Htrhhrth.jpg/450px-Htrhhrth.jpg


9.Intraco I - 138 m, floors 39 built in 1975
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Intraco_warszawa.jpg/429px-Intraco_warszawa.jpg


10.Millennium Plaza (looks like movable toilet)- 133 m, floors 30 built in 1999
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/5/56/Millenium05.jpg/449px-Millenium05.jpg

eryk512
10-15-2006, 07:40 PM
I forgot about second's place photo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/5/57/Wtt2.jpg

eryk512
10-15-2006, 07:43 PM
Most buildings from my list
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/skycrapers/ahdr20eo.jpg

dbee84
10-20-2006, 12:50 AM
MADRID, SPAIN

Here they go:

1,2,3,4: Currentely about half way through construction the CTBA (Madrid Arena Towers):
The Repsol, Sacry, Cristal, and Espacio Towers (at the moment tallest u/c is at 175m)
will finish at 250, 235, 250, and 226 metres tall.

http://www.blogpocket.com/ctba.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5309/untitled01019bs.png

5. The Piruli, 1982, 225m

http://galeria.forocoches.com/data/3845/medium/pan_scc2.jpg

6: The Picasso Tower 157m, 1989
http://www.carrier.es/images/picasso.jpg

7: Torre Madrid 1955, 142m
http://www.cpis.es/images/plaza_espana1pa.jpg


8: The BBVA Tower: 1979, 120m
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/8213m38dL/333395.jpg bbva

(This is the financial area where they are)
http://www.photomadrid.com/fotos%20grandes/zona%20azca.jpg
http://usuarios.lycos.es/rascacielos/2705eda0.jpg

9,10: The KIO towers: 1994, 115m
http://www-lehre.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/~obahlman/images/madrid1-25(klein).jpg

Metropolitan
10-20-2006, 09:44 PM
Dbee84, are you really sure that all the tallest towers from Madrid are listed ? I had the impression that there were more towers than that which were taller than the Puerta de Europa.

South
10-21-2006, 07:54 AM
London
- status of top10 tallest:

Shard London Bridge - approved
306m

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2007/shardif0.jpg

The Bishopsgate Tower - approved
288m

One Canada Square - complete
235m

Glengall Bridge Tower - planning
230m

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2522/glengallyv8.jpg

The Leadenhall Building - site preperation works underway
225m

North Quay Tower 1 - approved
216m

Heron Quays West Tower 1 - planning
214m

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7/hqwtj3.jpg

Riverside South Tower 1 - approved
214m

North Quay Tower 3 - approved
203m

Heron Tower - approved
202m

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4985/heronle6.jpg

Metropolitan
10-21-2006, 01:31 PM
Ok, just to help the reader to know what's the situation currently, here are the current Top10s of main European skylines according to Emporis. I've counted in those only the building completed or under construction. Hence doesn't appear there the approved or proposed projects.

The mentionned skyline have all a cumulated height of the Top10 buildings which is superior to 1,000 m. I didn't have the courage to investigate further, so sorry if you city don't appear. :shrug:

Hope it helps ! ;)

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/russie.gif Moscow, Russia
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 2 669 m
Federation Tower A : 354 m (u/c)
City Hall and City Duma : 307 m (u/c)
Plot 12 : 305 m (u/c)
Moscow : 274 m (u/c)
Triumph Palace : 264 m
Naberezhnaya Tower C : 250 m (u/c)
Federation Tower B : 242 m (u/c)
Moscow State University : 240 m
St Petersburg : 235 m (u/c)
Hotel Ukraine : 198 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/allemagne.gif Frankfurt, Germany
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 920 m
Commerbank Tower : 259 m
MesseTurm : 257 m
Westendstrasse 1 : 208 m
Main Tower : 200 m
Trianon : 186 m
Metzler Bank : 175 m
Silver Tower : 166 m
Plaza Büro Center : 159 m
Deutsche Bank 1 : 155 m
Deutsche Bank 2 : 155 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/france.gif Paris, France
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 785 m
Tour Montparnasse : 210 m
Tour Total : 187 m
Tour T1 : 185 m (u/c)
Tour Areva : 184 m
Tour Granite : 180 m (u/c)
Tour Gan : 179 m
Tour Chassagne : 167 m
Tour Alicante : 167 m
Tour EDF : 165 m
Cœur Défense : 161 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/royaumeuni.gif London, United Kingdom
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 766 m
One Canada Square : 235 m
8 Canada Square : 200 m
25 Canada Square : 200 m
Tower 42 : 183 m
Swiss Re : 180 m
Broadgate Tower : 161 m (u/c)
One Churchill Place : 156 m
25 Bank Street : 153 m
10 Upper Bank Street : 151 m
Pan Peninsula East Tower : 147 m (u/c)

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/espagne.gif Madrid, Spain
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 723 m
Torre Repsol : 250 m (u/c)
Torre de Cristal : 249 m (u/c)
Torre Sacyr Vallehermoso : 236 m (u/c)
Torre Espacio : 223 m (u/c)
Torre Picasso : 156 m
Torre de Madrid : 142 m
Tore Europa : 120 m
Edificio España : 117 m
Torre Colón : 116 m
Puerta de Europa I : 114 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/turquie.gif Istanbul, Turkey
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 712 m
Diamond of Istanbul : 270 m (u/c)
Isbank Tower 1 : 181 m
Sisli Plaza : 170 m (u/c)
Teksilkent Plaza 1 : 168 m
Teksilkent Plaza 2 : 168 m
Akbank Tower : 158 m
Süzer Plaza Ritz Carlton : 154 m
Polat Tower Residence : 153 m
Sun Plaza : 147 m
TAT Tower 1 : 143 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/pologne.gif Warsaw, Poland
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 534 m
Palace of Culture and Science : 231 m
Warsaw Trade Tower : 208 m
Intercontinental Warszawa : 164 m
Rondo 1-B : 159 m
Warsaw Financial Center : 144 m
Centrum LIM : 140 m
Oxford Tower : 139 m
TP S.A. Tower : 122 m
FIM Tower : 115 m
Millennium Plaza : 112 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/turquie.gif Ankara, Turkey
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 344 m
Sheraton Hotel : 143 m
Dikmen Valley Tower 1 : 140 m
Dikmen Valley Tower 2 : 140 m
Dikmen Valley Tower 3 : 140 m
Dikmen Valley Tower 4 : 140 m
TOBB Towers 1 : 140 m
TOBB Towers 2 : 140 m
Halkbank Headquarters : 123 m
Armada Tower : 123 m
Portas Tower 2 : 115 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/autriche.gif Vienna, Austria
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 273 m
Millennium Tower : 202 m
Hochhaus Neue Donau : 150 m
Vienna Twin Towers : 138 m
IZD Tower : 130 m
VIC Building B : 127 m
Florido Tower : 113 m
Mischek Tower : 108 m
Rathaus : 105 m
VIC Building A : 101 m
Delugan Meissl Tower : 99 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/italie.gif Milan, Italy
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 265 m
Torre Varesine 1 : 175 m (u/c)
Regione Lombardia : 160 m (u/c)
Torre Hines 1 : 145 m (u/c)
Torre Varesine 2 : 130 m (u/c)
Pirelli Building : 127 m
Torre Breda : 117 m
Torre Galfa : 109 m
Torre Velasca : 106 m
Ferrovie dello Stato 1 : 98 m
Ferrovie dello Stato 2 : 98 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/paysbas.gif Rotterdam, Netherlands
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 243 m
Gebouw Delftse Poort 1 : 151 m
Millennium Tower : 149 m
Montevideo : 140 m
World Port Center : 138 m
The Red Apple : 128 m (u/c)
Medische Faculiteit : 114 m
Waterstadtoren : 109 m
Weenatoren : 106 m
Weena-Center : 104 m
De Coopvaert : 104 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/espagne.gif Benidorm, Spain
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 240 m
Gran Hotel Bali : 186 m
Torre Lugano : 158 m (u/c)
Neguri Gane : 145 m
Torre Levante : 120 m
Costa Blanca 1 : 116 m
Beni Beach : 110 m
Plaza Ayul : 105 m
Gemelos 22 torre 1 : 100 m
Gemelos 22 torre 2 : 100 m
Torre Doscalas : 100 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/allemagne.gif Cologne, Germany
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 197 m
KölnTurm : 148 m
Colonia-Haus : 147 m
Büroturm Deutsche Welle : 138 m
Uni-Center : 131 m
TÜV Rheinland : 112 m
Ringturm : 109 m
Land- und Amtsgericht : 105 m
LVR-Turm : 103 m
Herkules-Hochhaus : 102 m
DeutschlandRadio : 102 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/belgique.gif Brussels, Belgium
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 184 m
Tour du Midi : 150 m
Tour Finances : 145 m
Dexia Tower : 137 m (u/c)
Madou Plaza : 120 m
Astro Tower : 107 m
North Galaxy A : 107 m
North Galaxy B : 107 m
World Trade Center Tower III : 105 m
Palais de Justice : 104 m
Belgacom Tower I : 102 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/espagne.gif Barcelona, Spain
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 156 m
Hotel Arts Barcelona : 154 m
Torre Mapfre : 154 m
Torre Agbar : 144 m
Habitat Sky : 115 m (u/c)
Edificio Colón : 110 m
Hotel Princess Barcelona : 109 m
Diagonal Mar i Cel : 104 m (u/c)
Illa del Mar 1 : 90 m (u/c)
Hotel AC Barcelona : 88 m
Consorci de la Zona Franca : 88 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/italie.gif Naples, Italy
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 152 m
Telecom Italia : 129 m
Torre ENEL 1 : 123 m
Torre ENEL 2 : 123 m
Torre Francesco : 118 m
Torre Saverio : 118 m
Consilio Regionale Campania : 115 m
New Law Courts Tower A : 110 m
New Law Courts Tower B : 110 m
Societa' Cattolica Di Assicurazioni : 105 m
Ambassador's Palace Hotel : 101 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/slovenie.gif Bratislava, Slovakia
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 104 m
Panorama City I : 135 m (u/c)
Panorama City II : 135 m (u/c)
Tower 115 : 115 m
Nbs : 111 m
Slovak TV : 108 m
CBC : 107 m (u/c)
Tower Residence : 107 m (u/c)
Gloria : 100 m
Aupark tower : 96 m (u/c)
Technopol : 90 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique//allemagne.gif Berlin, Germany
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 067 m
Park Inn Berlin Alexanderplatz : 125 m
Hochhaus Treptower : 125 m
Steglitzer Kreisel : 119 m
Debis Tower : 106 m
Kudamm Karree : 102 m
Die Pyramide : 100 m
BfA : 100 m
Charité : 100 m
Internationales Handelszentrum : 96 m
Bahn Tower : 94 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique/paysbas.gif Amsterdam, Netherlands
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 060 m
Rembrandttoren : 150 m
Mondriaantoren : 123 m
WTC H Toren : 105 m
ABN AMRO World HQ : 105 m
Ito-Toren : 100 m
Millennium Tower : 98 m
Crystal Tower : 95 m
Mahler 4 Viñoly : 95 m
Breitner Center : 95 m
Oval Tower : 94 m

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique//allemagne.gif Munich, Germany
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 036 m
Hochhaus Uptown München : 146 m
Highlight I : 126 m
Hypo-Haus : 114 m
Highlight II : 113 m
SV-Zentrale : 103 m (u/c)
BMW AG : 101 m
Seniorenwohnsitz Westpark : 87 m
Bürogebäude am Münchner Tor : 85 m
Munich City Tower : 85 m
Helene-Mayer-Ring 10 : 76 m

votrelec
10-28-2006, 12:44 AM
Bratislava, Slovakia
total 1104m

1. panorama city I: 135m U/C
2. panorama city II: 135m U/C
3. Tower 115: 115m
4. Nbs: 111m
5. Slovak TV: 108m
6. CBC: 107m U/C
7. tower Residence: 107m U/C
8. Gloria: 100m
9. Aupark tower: 96m U/C.
10. Technopol: 90m

anm
10-28-2006, 05:41 AM
Ok, just to help the reader to know what's the situation currently, here are the current Top10s of main European skylines according to Emporis. I've counted in those only the building completed or under construction. Hence doesn't appear there the approved or proposed projects.

The mentionned skyline have all a cumulated height of the Top10 buildings which is superior to 1,000 m. I didn't have the courage to investigate further, so sorry if you city don't appear. :shrug:

Hope it helps ! ;)

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique//russie.gif Moscow, Russia
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 2 669 m
Federation Tower A : 354 m (u/c)
City Hall and City Duma : 307 m (u/c)
Plot 12 : 305 m (u/c)
Moscow : 274 m (u/c)
Triumph Palace : 264 m
Naberezhnaya Tower C : 250 m (u/c)
Federation Tower B : 242 m (u/c)
Moscow State University : 240 m
St Petersburg : 235 m (u/c)
Hotel Ukraine : 198 m

Looks like Emporis is outdated for Moscow

a better Moscow list

1. Russia Tower 600 m approved
2. Ostankino TV tower 540 m
3. Federation Tower 448 m U/C
4. Mercury Tower 380 m U/C
5. City Hall 308 m U/C
6. Parcel 12 305 m U/C
7. Moscow 274 m U/C
8. Triumph Palace 264 m
9. Naberezhnaja Tower C 252 m U/C
10. Moscow State University 240 m
11. St. Petersburg 235 m U/C
12. Imperia Tower (60 floors) - instead of Aqua City Palace (50 floors)
design not finalized, probably higher than 250 m

for height calculation mind these details:

1. Federation Tower consists of Tower B 242m, Tower A 354 m, and Tower C 448 m
2. City Hall is actually four independent towers connected by skybridges
3. you may not want to count the TV tower, it is not a building

coth, could you check this?

Metropolitan
10-28-2006, 03:12 PM
Looks like Emporis is outdated for Moscow

a better Moscow list

1. Russia Tower 600 m approved
2. Ostankino TV tower 540 m
3. Federation Tower 448 m U/C
4. Mercury Tower 380 m U/C
5. City Hall 308 m U/C
6. Parcel 12 305 m U/C
7. Moscow 274 m U/C
8. Triumph Palace 264 m
9. Naberezhnaja Tower C 252 m U/C
10. Moscow State University 240 m
11. St. Petersburg 235 m U/C
12. Imperia Tower (60 floors) - instead of Aqua City Palace (50 floors)
design not finalized, probably higher than 250 m

for height calculation mind these details:

1. Federation Tower consists of Tower B 242m, Tower A 354 m, and Tower C 448 m
2. City Hall is actually four independent towers connected by skybridges
3. you may not want to count the TV tower, it is not a building

coth, could you check this?The Top10s I've posted only considers highrise buildings. If you look at it carefully, there's no Eiffel Tower for Paris, no Fernsehturm for Berlin. What you consider the "Tower C" of the Federation Tower is simply a mast, that's why I haven't counted it.

Furthermore the Top10s I've posted only considers building which are either already built or currently under construction. Do you see any Bishopsgate Tower or London Bridge Tower in London's list ?

As for the City Hall, I have long hesitated to know whether I should consider it as a single building or as 4 buildings, and I've finally decided to consider it as only one for the simple reason that they aren't simply connected by one single bridge a bit as the Petronas in KL, but actually by 32 skybridges on multiple floors with a glass wall between them. When you look at it, you see more a polycentric tower than 4 skyscrapers :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/City_hall_01.jpg

As a result, the only tower I've missed was the Mercury Tower. Thanks for this.

coth
11-06-2006, 02:28 AM
I would not call FT C as a mast. It is very unique concept there. It is architectural part of complex. It's also has own occupancy - elevators, bridges with bars and other stuff.

As of City Hall. There are four independent towers with 8 skybridges and with huge skybridge in form of letter M(oscow). The space between towers is free.

Moscow Top 10 Tallest proposed/approved/uc/built

Russia Tower. 600m 118f. approved.
FederationTower C. 448m 130f. u/c.
Mercury City Tower. 380m 70f. u/c.
East FederationTower. 354m 93f u/c.
One City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
Two City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
Three City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
Four City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
Golden Age. 306m 85f. approved.
12 IBC. 305m 67f. u/c.
also three 93 storeys proposals with unknown height could be taller of place 10.

GENIUS LOCI
11-10-2006, 04:33 PM
http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique//italie.gif Milan, Italy
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 265 m
Torre Varesine 1 : 175 m (u/c)
Regione Lombardia : 160 m (u/c)
Torre Hines 1 : 145 m (u/c)
Torre Varesine 2 : 130 m (u/c)
Pirelli Building : 127 m
Torre Breda : 117 m
Torre Galfa : 109 m
Torre Velasca : 106 m
Ferrovie dello Stato 1 : 98 m
Ferrovie dello Stato 2 : 98 m
Emporis lists are in many case not accurate

Here, for istance, Varesine Tower 1 is given for sure at 175 m (what last news don't give for sure, unfortunately) and in any case it is not u/c 'cause they will start in 2007 the "true" costruction: for now they're just "preparing" the area which was a former rail station demolished in '50... a complicated process of clean up

However the complete list of all proposed/approuved/built top ten towers in Milan should be that

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique//italie.gif Milan, Italy
1 - Torre "Isozaki", CityLife : 220 m (approuved)

2 - Milanone, Area D3 : 212 m (proposed)

3 - Torre "Hadid", CityLife : 185 m (approuved)

4 - Torre 2, Area D3 : 185 (?) m (proposed)

5 - Torre Varesine 1 : 175 (?) m (approuved)

6 - Torre "Libeskind", Citylife : 170 m (approuved)

7 - Regione Lombardia : 160 m (u/c)

8 - Torre Hines 1 : 145 m (approuved)

9 - Torre Varesine 2 : 130 m (approuved)

10 - Pirelli Building : 127 m (built: 1956)

To add at the list as existing towers (but not skyscrapers) should be:
- Telecom Italia Tower : 180 m
- Rai Television Tower : 145 m

For the future there are many "undefined" projects which can change the top ten; two of them surely are Milan Municipality tower that should have a minimum high of 150 m (they should do an international competition) and Milan Expo 2015 Tower (I think its construction there will be just in the case Milan would host the Expo) just presented in the project for the Expo as the new symbol of the city that should be projected by an international competition: from the renderings it seems to be approximately 600 m (!) high

wjfox2004
11-10-2006, 04:41 PM
One City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
Two City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
Three City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
Four City Hall and City Duma. 308m 71f. u/c.
I find it hilarious that you still claim these are 4 separate buildings. :haha:

I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my whole life.

Citrus-Fruit
11-10-2006, 04:59 PM
Birmingham!

1. The Pinnacle 176m
2. Arena Square 175m
3. BT Tower 152m
4. Snow Hill 140m
5. Broad Street Tower 133m
6. New Street 1 130m
7. New Street 2 130m
8. Holloway Circus 122m
9. Martineau Galleries 110m
10. Alpha 100m

coth
11-10-2006, 05:19 PM
I find it hilarious that you still claim these are 4 separate buildings. :haha:

I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my whole life.
because those are 4 separate independent towers with free space between them and with six(x4) 2 story bridges and one(x4) 8 story bridge in shape of letter m. call it reversed podium.

Metropolitan
11-11-2006, 02:38 PM
because those are 4 separate independent towers with free space between them and with six(x4) 2 story bridges and one(x4) 8 story bridge in shape of letter m. call it reversed podium.So if I understand well, the Grande Arche in Paris is actually 2 highrise buildings:

http://www.grandespirito.it/defense/defarcheF.jpg

jef
11-11-2006, 03:10 PM
too much fun.

City Hall is four skyscrapers? :haha:

The Shard is 6 then (the six elements interlinked to form the tower) and Broadgate Tower is 8.

jef
11-11-2006, 03:12 PM
By the way, how do count meters in Russia?

:jester:

coth
11-11-2006, 05:53 PM
So if I understand well, the Grande Arche in Paris is actually 2 highrise buildings:

http://www.grandespirito.it/defense/defarcheF.jpg this is one with big holl.

i have to repeat. city hall is 4 independent towers with no common connections. there are four 8 story brigdes at the top (one bridge connecting only two towers). there is a glassy dome, that covering inner yard, between towers at the top. those are only bridges technically. or does we have to count now petronas and federation as one building?

Mercutio
11-11-2006, 08:01 PM
This kind of argument is precisely why you have no credibility Coth.... :rolleyes:

wjfox2004
11-11-2006, 09:29 PM
Coth...... you're a fruitcake.

coth
11-12-2006, 01:59 AM
will, the fact that you don't like to lose in quantity doesn't mean that you right just because you are right.

blue on pic 1-1 is empty space. there is no an additional core between towers, but several atriums that does not have any structural value. bridges - as well.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3219/chyy5.jpg

R@ptor
11-12-2006, 02:41 AM
this is one with big holl.

Well, then the new Moscow City Hall is also just 1 skyscraper with 4 big 'holls'...

coth
11-12-2006, 12:25 PM
bridges are not continue of structure. or petronas now 1 towers as well?

Metropolitan
11-12-2006, 12:52 PM
bridges are not continue of structure. or petronas now 1 towers as well?Have you just looked its design Coth ? I'll repost it for you :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/City_hall_01.jpg

Just like with the Grande Arche, the whole structure shares a same roof, but even more than the Grande Arche, the space between the four pillars is protected from the outside by giant glass walls. As such, that space forms actually a giant atrium which isn't in open air as opposed to the "hole" in the Grande Arche.

Now for your comparison with the Petronas towers: Does the Petronas towers share the same roof ? No.
Does the Petronas towers are linked by a giant atrium on all their height ? No.
Are there any walls between the Petronas towers in general ? No.
Are there 32 skybridges on the Petronas ? No, only a single one.

Coth, sincerly, admit it. Moscow's new city Hall is a structure which is a lot closer to the Grande Arche than to the Petronas towers.

coth
11-12-2006, 01:06 PM
You look at cheap model. Look at sections posted above.
For City Hall
1. No.
2. Yet again - there are no atriums in all height of towers.
3. No.
4. It's not matter.


legend to sections.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/438/cityhallsectionsln6.png


there is also picture could have you to understand a structure concept more easly.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4861/img9bigaa0.jpg

jef
11-12-2006, 01:30 PM
@ Metro and other French forumers: Is it true the Eiffel Tower actually consists of 4 towers? I used to refer to it as "The Eiffel Tower" but now
I understand we should say "The Four Eiffel Towers". Is that correct?

coth
11-12-2006, 02:11 PM
Not correct. It's one structure. Even like Shukhov and Ostankino towers in Moscow.

nick_taylor
11-12-2006, 10:15 PM
You look at cheap model. Look at sections posted above.
For City Hall
1. No.
2. Yet again - there are no atriums in all height of towers.
3. No.
4. It's not matter.


legend to sections.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/438/cityhallsectionsln6.png


there is also picture could have you to understand a structure concept more easly.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4861/img9bigaa0.jpg
How can a building that shares the same podium, the same roof, several floors running around the building and an atrium that is closed from the elements by glass curtains be four seperate buildings?

I count around abouts 28 floors (above and below ground) that run around the building - are they somehow void? If you walk from one section to another......do you risk falling off the building because they are there just for visual appearence and not actually as part of the structure of the building?

To add to that its going to be one of the most disgusting 300m towers around, great if it was 200m, and the inards were filled in, but this will rival the Tuntex Sky Tower without a doubt in most ugliest skyscraper supertall competitions.

Mercutio
11-13-2006, 02:20 PM
You cynics are just dumb. Can't you see the four red towers in this picture? :hmmm: :coolugh: :crazy: :clown: :eeekk: :dead:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/City_hall_01.jpg

coth
11-13-2006, 03:10 PM
you may be very limited, mentally as well... sorry for you...

i'm just going to repeat - not an architecture define the count.

Grumpy
11-13-2006, 03:22 PM
Euh , I try to understand this Duma discussion but I don't get your point coth , sorry.

Jonas
11-13-2006, 03:24 PM
Those who see 1 tower and don't see 4 towers in this project must be mentally limited extreme Russophobes. Right, coth? ;)

coth
11-13-2006, 03:32 PM
grumpy. that picture is just cheap model. look at sections

those bridges are not part of a structure and does not contain any supporting functions.
blue on 1-1 is empty space.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/438/cityhallsectionsln6.png
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3219/chyy5.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/fin.jpg

Grumpy
11-13-2006, 03:38 PM
These 4 towers are built on 1 base so I guess this is clear that this is 1 building with 4 connected corners

coth
11-13-2006, 03:52 PM
so as federation tower, naberezhnaya tower etc. so as sorrento and many many other residential constructions in hong kong. there are 4 towers, but they are just heavily connected.

nick_taylor
11-13-2006, 06:09 PM
so as federation tower, naberezhnaya tower etc. so as sorrento and many many other residential constructions in hong kong. there are 4 towers, but they are just heavily connected.The problem is though, there are vast voids between say Naberezhnaya (3 towers with no connections) and a central spine and a few connections but lots of void between the two Federation Towers. This red tower though is connected:
- There are more connecting floors (easily double that of Federation, despite being noway near as hight)
- The atria are fully enclosed unlike the other two towers you mentioned which don't have such atria because they are clearly exposed

And please don't tell me that its going to be in blood coloured red as well? Is this meant to be a monument to the old USSR with the blood-drenched reminder of the gulags and the oppression of millions?

SHiRO
11-13-2006, 06:29 PM
Ok, just to help the reader to know what's the situation currently, here are the current Top10s of main European skylines according to Emporis. I've counted in those only the building completed or under construction. Hence doesn't appear there the approved or proposed projects.
Great post! :tup:

EDIT- after reading the rest of the thread...

I see coth's delusions have rapidly progressed, time to seek some professional help if you ask me...:no:

As for the over 1000m lists, I checked Amsterdam and it also exceeds 1000m (barely) on Emporis.
(And I didn't want to say it, but ankara isn't in Europe...;))




http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique//paysbas.gif Amsterdam, Netherlands
Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings: 1 060 m


01. Rembrandttoren 150 m
02. Mondriaantoren 123 m
03. WTC H Toren 105 m
04. ABN AMRO World HQ 105 m
05. Ito-Toren 100 m
06. Millennium Tower 98 m
07. Crystal Tower 95 m
08. Mahler 4 Viñoly 95 m
09. Breitner Center 95 m
10. Oval Tower 94 m



These are my hometowns tallest:
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/

coth
11-13-2006, 08:20 PM
The problem is though, there are vast voids between say Naberezhnaya (3 towers with no connections) and a central spine and a few connections but lots of void between the two Federation Towers. This red tower though is connected:
- There are more connecting floors (easily double that of Federation, despite being noway near as hight)
- The atria are fully enclosed unlike the other two towers you mentioned which don't have such atria because they are clearly exposed

And please don't tell me that its going to be in blood coloured red as well? Is this meant to be a monument to the old USSR with the blood-drenched reminder of the gulags and the oppression of millions?
right those are bridges. no matter how much. they are just 2 storey tall.


this was built before ussr
imperial city hall
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Mosdumanew.jpg

this was built before ussr
moscow kremlin
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/KREML.jpg/800px-KREML.jpg

this was built before ussr
current city hall
http://avia.russian.ee/travel/moscow/moscow_65.jpg

also nice example. demolished by communists :eek:
http://paszec.ru/mos/lub_ot_nik_star.jpg

current city duma building is also red and was built before ussr.

nick_taylor
11-13-2006, 08:49 PM
http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/fin.jpg....2 storey bridges which add up several floors, and the fact that they share the same roof (several floors connecting) and the same basement (several floors). They are the same building, with one atria.

I mean I know you have a major problem with denial of facts but this is getting beyond stupidity - its one building and anyone around the world with any common sense would say the exact same thing.

staff
11-13-2006, 09:17 PM
In theory - four towers, in reality - one tower.

How will Emporis and SSP list this/these tower(s)?

coth
11-13-2006, 09:48 PM
SSP as one because they are close to each other. Close building are listing as one on SSP for better drawing. I hope this standard will changed.

Emporis list them as four.

SHiRO
11-13-2006, 10:19 PM
:rolleyes:

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=1cityhallandcityduma-moscow-russia

london lad06
11-14-2006, 01:02 AM
So we have a building with 4 corners connected by various bridges/walkways with a roof & in between these 4 corners are glasss curtains running the length of the building so the whole structure is enclosed on all 4 sides giving the apearance of one enclosed building.

Have you not heard of an atrium???

Hmmmm 4 buildings or 1- tough

coth
11-14-2006, 07:51 AM
http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:www.emporis.com+city+hall+and+city+duma+emporis&num=100&hl=en&hs=IAX&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&filter=0

Jonas
11-14-2006, 11:06 AM
Remember that Emporis database is basically run by independent individual editors who have got access to cities and all buildings and are free to edit all data. For example I could make the Moscow City Duma to be 65 buildings instead of 4 and ;). Emporis is indeed a good source but in some cases it still reflects just an opinion of the editors who are human beings and may be subjective. So I wouldn't use it as an unquestionable source of correct information.

SHiRO
11-14-2006, 04:54 PM
http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:www.emporis.com+city+hall+and+city+duma+emporis&num=100&hl=en&hs=IAX&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&filter=0
And?:rolleyes:

coth
11-15-2006, 09:23 AM
i really don't know who is did it. i don't know also if you are an editor there. so who knowns - may be it is you vandalized city hall entry there.

dbee84
01-06-2007, 03:23 PM
Im jealous of Russia, especially its 600m beast, but happy that proper skycrapers are appearing in EU capitals. However I think its important that they appear in groups, ie not a 300m tower in middle of 50m buildings..

London better hurry, its getting left behind..

Metropolitan
01-07-2007, 11:52 AM
Okay so things have moved a lot in recent months in Paris so here's a quick update about the Top10 tallest either proposed, under construction or built.

NB: Another tower of 240 meters is rumoured but we'll have to wait more official information before adding it.


#1 - Eiffel Tower Status : Built.
Completed in : 1889
Height : 324 meters / 1,063 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/1-tour-eiffel.jpg



#2 - Generali Tower Status : Approved.
Completed in : 2011
Height : 318 meters / 1,043 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/2-tour-generali.jpg



#3 - Morphosis Tower Status : Approved.
Completed in : 2012
Height : 300 meters / 984 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/3-tour-morphosis.jpg



#4 - AXA Tower Status : Renovation and heightening approved.
Completed in : 2009
Height : 225 meters / 738 ft (spire excluded)http://grandparis.free.fr/top10/4-tour-axa.jpg



#5 - Montparnasse Tower Status : Built.
Completed in : 1972
Height : 210 meters / 689 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/5-tour-montparnasse.jpg



#6 - Total Tower Status : Built.
Completed in : 1985
Height : 187 meters / 614 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/6-tour-total.jpg



#7 - T1 Tower Status : Under construction.
Completed in : 2007
Height : 185 meters / 607 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/7-tour-t1.jpg



#8 - Areva Tower Status : Built.
Completed in : 1974
Height : 184 meters / 604 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/8-tour-areva.jpg



#9 - Granite Tower Status : Under construction.
Completed in : 2008
Height : 183 meters / 600 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/9-tour-granite.jpg



#10 - Unibail Viguier Tower Status : Proposed.
Completed in : 2012
Height : 180 meters / 591 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/10-tour-unibail-viguier.jpg

mic of orion
01-08-2007, 04:14 AM
http://grandparis.free.fr/top10/3-tour-morphosis.jpg

I love this one, btw great stuff, compiling all this data must took you a while. nice one :) any renderings on Russia Tower, 600m wow, that is very tall.

Warcry
01-08-2007, 08:44 AM
Hmm axa tower looks familier!
lol i think paris wants its own Bishopsgate!

(shame its not as nice looking ;))

Minato Ku
01-08-2007, 04:33 PM
It is the same agency of architects :)
But Axa tower is a renovation of an old building
An extra height of 66 meters will be added at this old tower

Axa tower now built in 1974 159m
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/AXA.JPG/450px-AXA.JPG

Axa tower in 2009 225m
http://grandparis.free.fr/top10/4-tour-axa.jpg

impressive isn't it ? :)

BenL
01-14-2007, 05:16 PM
Morphosis is really starting to grow on me.

wjfox2004
01-14-2007, 05:34 PM
Ah, so they're increasing the height of the current building rather than constructing a totally new one? I didn't know that...

villelumiere
01-16-2007, 05:41 PM
wow London! But I think 300+ Towers a somehow too high for an old Europen City. Don't you think it will totally destroy the historic skyline of London.
I'm not a too big fan of really tall skyscrapers in the inner City Districts of European capitals.
But the Quality of the single buildings is very high, way better that other towers in other Cities.

Wow indeed. That pic of the Leadenhall beside the Gherkin gives some indication of the sheer density of the City area.

Gosh London is surpassing itself. What a city

villelumiere
01-16-2007, 05:44 PM
http://grandparis.free.fr/top10/3-tour-morphosis.jpg

I love this one, btw great stuff, compiling all this data must took you a while. nice one :) any renderings on Russia Tower, 600m wow, that is very tall.

I agree and also thanks to Metropolitan.

looking at the top 10 list really does show how hideous Tour montparnasse is doesn't it?

Wizzard
02-16-2007, 12:28 PM
About Bratislava, Slovakia, the highest existing building is Kamzik TV Tower, 200 m. There is another skyscraper proposed, called Twin City with height about 50 m more than current skyscrapers, so maybe 150-170 m, I guess.

www.sercan.de
02-16-2007, 01:33 PM
Istanbul 1.830m

1. Diamond of Istanbul: 270m (u/c)
2. Sapphire Tower: 261m (u/c)
3. Is Bank Tower I: 181m
4. Sisli Plaza: 170m (u/c)
5. Tekstilkent Plaza 1: 168m
6. Tekstilkent Plaza 2: 168m
7. Akbank Tower: 158m
8. Süzer Plaza Ritz-Carlton: 154m
9. Polat Tower Residence: 153m
10. Sun Plaza: 147m

M.Köy project has got two 35[or 39] floor towers

proposed/approved ones:
Dubai Towers Istanbul I: 300m or even more [+350m]
Dubai Towers Istanbul II: 240m or even more
Ciftciler Tower 1: 52 Storey [+210m]
EDIP Tower 1: 180m
Istanbul Garden Life: 170m
Soyak Tower: 168m
Tasyapi Hotel: 165m
Ciftciler Tower 2: 45 Storey [+160m]
EDIP Tower 1: 154m

anm
02-21-2007, 05:51 AM
Moscow IBC, plot 16

http://www.citynext.com/16.asp

67 floors, 393 m

http://www.citynext.com/upload/images/16-3.jpg

coth
02-21-2007, 11:29 AM
^275. 393 is roof above of sea level.

anm
02-21-2007, 04:09 PM
^^ interesting... you know better, I suppose, although the site does not say this; I just naturally assumed that the hight is given above the ground level. Actually, it is 62 floors above the ground (plus 5 underground levels), so it is likely to be around 275m.

And speaking of 275 m... The Naberezhnaja Tower C, now quoted as 56 floors 252m appears to have reached about 250 m by the central core alone, with projected number of floors of at least 60, and hight around 270 m. Looks like the final hight has been increased during construction.

This is Feb 02 status by masik from SCC:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2552/20022007sq1.jpg

anm
02-23-2007, 03:10 AM
a revised`Moscow list

1. Russia Tower 600 m approved
2. Federation Tower 448 m U/C
3. Mercury Tower 380 m U/C
4. City Hall 308 m U/C
5. Golden Age 306m approved or U/C
6. Eurasia (plot 12) 305 m U/C
7. Moscow (City of Capitals) 274 m U/C
8. Naberezhnaja Tower C ca 270-275 m U/C
9. Plot 16, 275m proposed
10. Triumph Palace 264 m
11. Moscow State University 240 m
12. Imperia Tower (60 floors) - ca 250 m U/C
13. St. Petersburg (City of Capitals) 235 m U/C

BoardLord83
01-10-2008, 11:12 PM
Emporis lists are in many case not accurate

Here, for istance, Varesine Tower 1 is given for sure at 175 m (what last news don't give for sure, unfortunately) and in any case it is not u/c 'cause they will start in 2007 the "true" costruction: for now they're just "preparing" the area which was a former rail station demolished in '50... a complicated process of clean up

However the complete list of all proposed/approuved/built top ten towers in Milan should be that

http://worldcuphistory.free.fr/files/drapeau_historique//italie.gif Milan, Italy
1 - Torre "Isozaki", CityLife : 220 m (approuved)

2 - Milanone, Area D3 : 212 m (proposed)

3 - Torre "Hadid", CityLife : 185 m (approuved)

4 - Torre 2, Area D3 : 185 (?) m (proposed)

5 - Torre Varesine 1 : 175 (?) m (approuved)

6 - Torre "Libeskind", Citylife : 170 m (approuved)

7 - Regione Lombardia : 160 m (u/c)

8 - Torre Hines 1 : 145 m (approuved)

9 - Torre Varesine 2 : 130 m (approuved)

10 - Pirelli Building : 127 m (built: 1956)

To add at the list as existing towers (but not skyscrapers) should be:
- Telecom Italia Tower : 180 m
- Rai Television Tower : 145 m

For the future there are many "undefined" projects which can change the top ten; two of them surely are Milan Municipality tower that should have a minimum high of 150 m (they should do an international competition) and Milan Expo 2015 Tower (I think its construction there will be just in the case Milan would host the Expo) just presented in the project for the Expo as the new symbol of the city that should be projected by an international competition: from the renderings it seems to be approximately 600 m (!) high


Hi!! I'm new here.

I've news for new milan towers.

Isozaky tower: 218 m

torre varesine 1: 140 m

torre varesine 2 "diamond": 130 m

regione lombardia: 167 m

Torre hines or ex city of fashon tower: 215 m :banana:

Gilli Hotel: 95/100 m this is new

torre varesine 3 : 100 m this is new

Minato Ku
01-10-2008, 11:53 PM
Okay so things have moved a lot in recent months in Paris so here's a quick update about the Top10 tallest either proposed, under construction or built.



This list is now outdated. :)


#1 - Eiffel Tower Status : Built.
Completed in : 1889
Height : 324 meters / 1,063 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/1-tour-eiffel.jpg



#2 - Generali Tower Status : Approved.
Completed in : 2011
Height : 318 meters / 1,043 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/2-tour-generali.jpg



#3 - Morphosis Tower Status : Approved.
Completed in : 2012
Height : 300 meters / 984 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/3-tour-morphosis.jpg



#4 - CB21 Tower Proposed
Completed in : 2013
Height : 275 meters / 902 fthttp://img297.imageshack.us/img297/262/gandj9.jpg



#5 - CB21 Tower Under construction
Completed in : 2009
Height : 240 meters / 780 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/4-tour-axa.jpg



#6 - PB22 Tower Proposed
Completed in : 201?
Height : 235 meters / 771 fthttp://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4636/902920754e2b36e8302hx9.jpg



#7 - Air² Tower Approved
Completed in : 2009
Height : 220 meters / 722 fthttp://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7842/152605727666558f6a36ocq9.jpg



#8 - Montparnasse Tower Status : Built.
Completed in : 1972
Height : 210 meters / 689 fthttp://grandparis.free.fr/top10/5-tour-montparnasse.jpg



#9 - Majunga Tower Status : Approved.
Completed in : 2012
Height : 195 meters / 640 fthttp://www.ladefense.fr/images/dynamic/projets/majunga.jpg



#10 - T1 Tower Status : Under construction.
Completed in : 2008
Height : 187.7 meters / 615 fthttp://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7249/t43he2.jpg

It should change a lot in the next month. :)

anm
01-11-2008, 12:53 AM
a revised Moscow list

1. Russia Tower 612 m U/C
2. Federation Tower 506 m U/C
3. Crystal Island 450 m approved
4. Mercury Tower 380 m U/C
5. City Hall 308 m U/C
6. Golden Age 306m approved
7. Eurasia (plot 12) 303 m U/C
8. Moscow (City of Capitals) 284 m U/C
9. Naberezhnaja Tower C 268 m
10. Plot 16, 275m proposed
11. Triumph Palace 264 m
12. Moscow State University 240 m
13. St. Petersburg (City of Capitals) 242 m U/C
14. Imperia Tower (60 floors) - 239m U/C

anm
02-02-2008, 06:25 AM
one more revision of Moscow list

1. Russia Tower 612 m U/C
2. Federation Tower 506 m U/C
3. Crystal Island 450 m approved
4. Mercury Tower 380 m U/C
5. Metropolia 364m proposed
6. City Hall 308 m U/C
7. Golden Age 306m approved
8. Eurasia 303 m U/C
9. Moscow (City of Capitals) 284 m U/C
10. Naberezhnaja Tower C 268 m
11. Plot 16, 275m proposed
12. Triumph Palace 264 m
13. Moscow State University 240 m
14. St. Petersburg (City of Capitals) 242 m U/C
15. Imperia Tower 239m U/C

anm
02-12-2008, 09:24 PM
According to http://www.citynext.ru/16.asp

plot 16 will have three buildings: 79 m (22 floors), 215 m (44 floors) and 330 m (86 floors).

1. Russia Tower 612 m U/C
2. Federation Tower 506 m U/C
3. Crystal Island 450 m approved
4. Mercury Tower 380 m U/C
5. Metropolia 364m proposed
6. Plot 16 330 m proposed
7. City Hall 308 m U/C
8. Golden Age 306m approved
9. Eurasia 303 m U/C
10. Moscow (City of Capitals) 284 m U/C
11. Naberezhnaja Tower C 268 m
12. Triumph Palace 264 m
13. St. Petersburg (City of Capitals) 242 m U/C
14. Moscow State University 240 m
15. Imperia Tower 239m U/C

andi204
02-12-2008, 10:05 PM
Berlin, Berlin, Germany

1) Fernsehturm
368m | built 1965-69
http://www.fotos-berlin24.de/data/media/7/Berlin-Fernsehturm008.jpg

2) Fernmeldeturm Berlin-Schäferberg
212m | built 1961-1964
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/p4210259.jpg

3) Sonae-Hochhaus
150m | proposed
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00213/hochhaus_213024g.jpg

4) Park Inn Hotel
149,5m | built 1967–1969
http://www.designhaus-berlin.de/Bilder/Arbeiten/Fotografie/6.jpg

5) Berliner Funkturm
146m | built 1924–1926
http://www.thorsten-neuhetzki.de/pictures/lights2005/picture-0099.jpg

6) Treptowers
125m | built 1995–1998
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/1306491078_30288c1cf1.jpg

7) Steglitzer Kreisel
118 m | 1968-1980
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Steglitzer_Kreisel_Berlin.jpg/450px-Steglitzer_Kreisel_Berlin.jpg

8) debis-Haus
106m | built 1997-1999
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Berlin_-_debis-Haus_1.jpg/450px-Berlin_-_debis-Haus_1.jpg

9)Europa Center
103m |built 1963-1965
http://members.surfeu.de/hobbyuo/Fluggrafik/Europa-Center_am_Breitscheidplatz.jpg

10) Bahn-Tower
103m | built 1996-1999
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/pix/baubilanz/geschaeftsgebaeude/sony_center.jpg

Once there were some buildings which usually would be listed under the top ten but they got destroyed or changed during the time. For example the Berlin Cathedral was 114m high before WW2.

Eric Offereins
03-02-2008, 08:31 PM
Rotterdam list per march 2008:

1: Zalmhaven urban; 210 m; proposed
2: Baltimore; 173 m; proposed
3: Maastower; 165 m; UC
4: New Orleans; 158 m; UC
5: Coolsingeltower; 156 m; proposed
6: Havana; 153 m; proposed
7: Montevideo; 152 m; built
8: Delftse Poort; 151 m; built
9: De Rotterdam; 149 m; proposed
10: Milenniumtower; 131 m; built

Minato Ku
06-29-2008, 06:38 PM
A big upgrade

1. Tour Eiffel - 324m : built
2. Tour Hermitage A - 309m : proposed
3. Tour Signal - 301m : proposed
4. Tour Phare - 300m : approved
5. Tour Generalli - 300m : approved
6. Tour (name unknow) by Foster for La Lucette - 297m : proposed
7. Tour Osmose - 284m : proposed
8. Tour CB21 - 275m : approved
9. Tour Hermitage B - 266m : proposed
10. Tour CB31 - 240m : u/c

Increadible outside the Tour Eiffel no towers at are actually build.
It would be great if they build every one.

Nightsky
12-17-2008, 05:38 PM
Malmö, Sweden

http://www.mediaarchitecture.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/TurningTorso11.jpg
Turning Torso

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Kronprinsen,_Malmö_6.jpg/300px-Kronprinsen,_Malmö_6.jpg
Kronprinsen

http://www.worldtravelimages.net/Hilton_Malmo.jpg
Hilton

Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings (including churches): 784 m

1. Turning Torso : 190m
2. St Petri Church : 105m
3. Kronprinsen : 82m
4. Hilton Malmö City : 69m
5. Kockumshuset : 65m
6. Slagthuset : 63m
7. St Johannes Church : 60m
8. Högaholm 1 : 50m
9. Högaholm 2 : 50m
10. Högaholm 3 : 50m

Cumulated heights of Top10 buildings (not including churches): 719 m

1. Turning Torso : 190m
2. Kronprinsen : 82m
3. Hilton Malmö City : 69m
4. Kockumshuset : 65m
5. Slagthuset : 63m
6. Högaholm 1 : 50m
7. Högaholm 2 : 50m
8. Högaholm 3 : 50m
9. Högaholm 4 : 50m
10. Högaholm 5 : 50m


What are the rules? I know for example TV towers, masts, chimneys and bridges can’t be counted, but can churches be counted since they are buildings (but not highrises)?
And is it the roof height that is counted (it seems so since Frankfurt’s Commerzbank would be 299m otherwise)?

Echo Park
12-17-2008, 06:15 PM
I love turning torso. Something liek that would perfect in Los Angeles but our city leaders lack ambition and innovation.

Ayreonaut
12-18-2008, 01:05 AM
Yeah, Turning Torso is stellar.

Bergenser
12-18-2008, 05:50 PM
• DnB Bygget 55.0 m 15 built 1982

• Fantoft Studentby 54.0 m 18 built 1972

• Bergen Rådhus 51.2 m 14 built 1974

• Skattehuset 50.0 m 14 built 2008 NEW

• Fylkesbygget 49.4 m 14 built 1974

• Loddefjordveien 14 45.0 m 15 built 1973

• Helleveien 267 45.0 m 15 built 1963

• Helleveien 265 45.0 m 15 built 1963

• Helleveien 263 45.0 m 15 built 1963

• Helleveien 230 45.0 m 15 built 1963


Not much, but currently people are slowly becoming a bit more pro-high rise here, or maybe I just interpret the current situation like that...



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