[1ajs]

Come on.... didn't I mention the bush on the lot or something? :rolleyes:


Never the less I've had my thumb in my ear ... not straching my ass.
fine if you guys wana beleave this is a joke go right ahead you will be in for a surprize.

[newflyer]

I don't dispute that this project will come out at some point. Its just difficult to keep this thread going without new info.

I try to keep in mind that the Calgary forumers had to wait months for the Encana tower designs to break, so we may be waiting for a while.

Until then.... :shuffle:

[Only The Lonely..]

Supposedly the announcement is to occur sometime before Xmas..

I guess that means another 4 or so odd weeks of waiting?

[newflyer]

The big difference with this project and the Encana tower is we don't know anything.


We don't know who the developer is or who the driver behind the project is.

In Calgary at least they knew Encana needed space and has purchased a big block of land for there building. We are much more in the dark.

[BigG]

I've been reading these posts for a while and really anticipating the news with a whole lot of excitement, but you guys are killing me - absolutely killing me. Is there such a thing as death by anticipation?

[Only The Lonely..]

:previous:

Yes, see the old Encana thread.

[c vist]

If this project were a joke ... my firm and developer would not have spent 30k+ on the proposal.

Guess we'll have to see what happens?

[Greco Roman]

If this project were a joke ... my firm and developer would not have spent 30k+ on the proposal.

Guess we'll have to see what happens?

Oh man, I can hardly contain myself........................:banana:

I hope this announcement comes before I get home for the holidays, in about three weeks.

[c vist]

We have heard from the City that the announcement will come sometime in December ... hopefully this is soon!

[1ajs]

the 1st of dec is friday i hope its friday this week dreams...

[Only The Lonely..]

Well the 1st is over, only 30 more days to go until we know for sure.

[1ajs]

Well the 1st is over, only 30 more days to go until we know for sure. dam my gues was rong should we start a 100 main anouce the dam project already thread :P

[Biff]

The announcement wont be until the new year. Sorry guy's no early Christmas present.

[1ajs]

The announcement wont be until the new year. Sorry guy's no early Christmas present. damit

[Greco Roman]

The announcement wont be until the new year. Sorry guy's no early Christmas present.

:( Oh well, I just hope it actually turns into reality.

[BigG]

Death....

[pegcity]

how about a hint...until the official announcement I think we should make absurd,stupid, whimisical speculations.

I think the old Petro Canada gas bar will re-locate at this location with a drive thru A&W, also Petro Canada will provide a 6 level car park for it's customers, with the possibilty of having residential spaces on the top 2 levels in the future.

[Smron]

They will return the entire site to natural tall-grass prairie!

[1ajs]

They will return the entire site to natural tall-grass prairie!
that better be a joke lol

[Archiseek]

not a bad idea really.... we could let bison roam throughout downtown....

[pegcity]

not a bad idea really.... we could let bison roam throughout downtown....

that would be a really good tourist attraction, and have bison rides for the kids.

[Greco Roman]

not a bad idea really.... we could let bison roam throughout downtown....

Would this be another "Made in Winnipeg" solution to rapid transit? :D

[1ajs]

Would this be another "Made in Winnipeg" solution to rapid transit? :D
that would be intresting lol

[Shodan]

:previous:

Yes, see the old Encana thread.

I'm waiting for the "100 Main Street - Just build the damn thing already" thread.

:notacrook:

[1ajs]

I'm waiting for the "100 Main Street - Just build the damn thing already" thread.

:notacrook:

bahaha

[Greco Roman]

I'm waiting for the "100 Main Street - Just build the damn thing already" thread.

:notacrook:

Now now. We need to have 100 feasibility studies, 100 public consultations to listen to the yappy NIMBY and "anti-developement" bubbleheads who cry foul when something great is proposed within city limits. Don't forget, even when approved, it will take at least 80 years to be built. That is the Winnipeg way :haha:

[1ajs]

Now now. We need to have 100 feasibility studies, 100 public consultations to listen to the yappy NIMBY and "anti-developement" bubbleheads who cry foul when something great is proposed within city limits. Don't forget, even when approved, it will take at least 80 years to be built. That is the Winnipeg way :haha:
hahahahaha i think the only nimby problem we will be having is plp in fort gary place companing about the loss of their view

[newflyer]

:D ...this damn tower better be more than a couple feet taller than the current tallest.... I want to new signiture tower which draws attention away from the P&M clusster.

[1ajs]

i hope its the tallest...

[c vist]

^ remember it's not always about size!

[trueviking]

sometimes its about girth...

[Greco Roman]

sometimes its about girth...

nah, it's about height AND girth. Winnipeg deserves this, bigtime !

[c vist]

nah, it's about height AND girth. Winnipeg deserves this, bigtime !

whew! ... back to disagreeing with AB-boy again ... guess my brain is working again and the natural balance of the universe has been restored.

[Greco Roman]

whew! ... back to disagreeing with AB-boy again ... guess my brain is working again and the nature balance of the universe has been restored.

:cool: No loss on this end, either.

[Greco Roman]

ANYWAYS............................

back to playing the waiting game. Still have great expectations :tup:

[newflyer]

^ remember it's not always about size!


There are various versions of size... hieght, gurth, square footage .. ect. I for one would love to see a new building which would add to the skyline with a modern sleak design. This would hopefully draw some attention away from the focal point of Winnipeg's downtown (P&M).

[Greco Roman]

Still waiting.............................................:)

[Tower Crane]

I believe 1ajs mentioned a new tallest some pages back. What's the latest updates.

[newflyer]

What's the latest updates.


Zzzzzzzzzzzz....... wha .. huh ... did someone mention something about 100 main??? ....


....... oh nevermind ........... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :sleep:

[1ajs]

Zzzzzzzzzzzz....... wha .. huh ... did someone mention something about 100 main??? ....


....... oh nevermind ........... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :sleep:

ahaha we will just wait

[freeweed]

There are various versions of size... hieght, gurth, square footage .. ect. I for one would love to see a new building which would add to the skyline with a modern sleak design. This would hopefully draw some attention away from the focal point of Winnipeg's downtown (P&M).

You guys were talking about BUILDINGS?

I got lost in the thread...

Also, because it's fun to poke at a fellow spelling nazi: height, girth, etc, sleek. :D

[newflyer]

.... I heard a tractor was seen in the area..... although it may have been a snowplow.

Remember that Simpsons episode when Homer started a plow business called Mr.Plow, and completed against Barney. :rolleyes:

Yeah this thread is going nowhere, but we can at least have some fun, right??

[1ajs]

.... I heard a tractor was seen in the area..... although it may have been a snowplow.

Remember that Simpsons episode when Homer started a plow business called Mr.Plow, and completed against Barney. :rolleyes:

Yeah this thread is going nowhere, but we can at least have some fun, right??

:jester:

ya and home calls out a fake job and barny gets traped in a avilanch then homer feels gilty and goes and rescues them and then they team up and say not even god can stop us :jester:


but ya... newflyer were in for a treat on this stop dising you will have to just wait like we had to for encana

and its christmas holidays right now so we are going to have to wait atleast a cuple more weeks

[newflyer]

but ya... newflyer were in for a treat on this stop dising you will have to just wait like we had to for encana

and its christmas holidays right now so we are going to have to wait atleast a cuple more weeks

:gaah: Wasn't that said back in November?? .... Now is nearing the end of December .. :whatthefuck:

[harls]

I'm wondering how long the people that have this leaked information/rendering will hold on to it before they succumb to the pressure of being the hero that posted it on the skyscraperpage.com forum?

that's right. Hero.

[newflyer]

This guy ... :gaah: ... actually looks alot like me when I am reading this thread. Really. :haha:

[newflyer]

.

[1ajs]

I'm wondering how long the people that have this leaked information/rendering will hold on to it before they succumb to the pressure of being the hero that posted it on the skyscraperpage.com forum?

that's right. Hero.

:jester: i don't think thats going to happen anytime soon


and stop fishing at my end of the pond... i won't bite i nibled but thats all your guna get... go try the other end

[harls]

No one is taking the bait. I need a better lure.

[1ajs]

No one is taking the bait. I need a better lure.
stop fishing for tadpoles theres no meat in them go fish for sharks

[newflyer]

.... will be in announced in 2007?? ... maybe in January?? ;)

[1ajs]

.... will be in announced in 2007?? ... maybe in January?? ;)
lol i hope so :cheers:

[Tower Crane]

For a new tallest there seems to be little to no leaks regarding what this building might be or look like. Also it was mentioned the announcement would be in December. Who ever posted the announcement of a new tallest and mentioned that it would be announced in December needs to step up and spill some more beans or take some lumps.

[1ajs]

lol well were very paiten in winnipeg if ya did not notice.

[BigG]

My patience is beginning to wane. I'm starting to wonder if this project will come to fruition or maybe somebody's yanking our chain. It's psychological torture! (a little bit of overacting...)

[1ajs]

My patience is beginning to wane. I'm starting to wonder if this project will come to fruition or maybe somebody's yanking our chain. It's psychological torture! (a little bit of overacting...)

then go bitch at the city for taking its time........

[pegcity]

Maybe a hint or something.

[1ajs]

ok heres what we knpw

heritage winnipeg wants to build a masive park but the city put a rfp call out to be fair the park plans are in pdf on their site i think

now for the other projects...

theres a 20 story tower proposed mix use simlar style as the tallest but not as good looking i am told..

then theres the new tallest also

[newflyer]

Maybe a hint or something.

... ahhh I think it supposed to be tall... or something. :shrug:

I am still hedging my bets whether it will be taller than P&M... but we will see. I sure hope its a great building thoiugh.. :yes:

[Pootkao]

i've seen a rendering of the tallest of the proposals, and its f'n rad.

but other than that, i know nothing.

[BigG]

Where can we see these renderings?

[1ajs]

simple you can't


but heres the proposil from heritage winnipeg http://www.heritagewinnipeg.com/pdf/02-068_finalReport.pdf

[pegcity]

Does Heritage Winnipeg have first dibs?
If so, is there a better chance of seeing a park being built instead of a "f'n rad" building?

[1ajs]

Does Heritage Winnipeg have first dibs?
If so, is there a better chance of seeing a park being built instead of a "f'n rad" building?


the city put the call out to make it fair

[Greco Roman]

Does Heritage Winnipeg have first dibs?
If so, is there a better chance of seeing a park being built instead of a "f'n rad" building?

This is something that I was afraid of potentially happeneing.................................:(

[1ajs]

This is something that I was afraid of potentially happeneing.................................:(

it would tie in the river walk system into main street alot better

[The Jabroni]

How about a little bit of both? I mean build a building and then some sort of huge atrium greenhouse type-of-thing or something.

That, or build the new tallest somewhere else. Just my two cents though.

[Only The Lonely..]

What a silly little thread this is..

Two months later and still nothing.


Don't you all realize that 100 main is just a metaphor? It's the skyscraper that exists in all of our hearts.

[Greco Roman]

What a silly little thread this is..

Two months later and still nothing.


Don't you all realize that 100 main is just a metaphor? It's the skyscraper that exists in all of our hearts.


This isn't a personal attack, but I hope you are dead wrong on this bud.

But seriously, what's the deal here?

[newflyer]

What a silly little thread this is..

Two months later and still nothing.


Don't you all realize that 100 main is just a metaphor? It's the skyscraper that exists in all of our hearts.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.... I get it.

Well in that case Winnipeg has several new very tall skyscrapers. My heart thinks BIG. :D

[Only The Lonely..]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.... I get it.

Well in that case Winnipeg has several new very tall skyscrapers. My heart thinks BIG. :D

Do any of these skyscrapers host crown corporations?

[newflyer]

Do any of these skyscrapers host crown corporations?

Nope.... in my heart the crown corporations were moved to York Factory... in really low grade temporary buildings and trailers... easily infiltrated by bears and other wild animals.

I'm thinking something like this for the best of the inefficient:

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4228/im000408lgyc3.jpg



The new highrise buildings contain the many growing Manitoba corporations (real corporations). Winnipeg turns from a belly aching, depressing socialist city to a new mecca of capitalism, where investments are drawn to.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8843/houstonatsunsetoc2.jpg


Like I said... my heart thinks BIG. :tup:

[1ajs]

winnipeg has so much opertunity were on the virg of somthing big.

how much debt does the province have atm?

[flatlander]

Nope.... in my heart the crown corporations were moved to York Factory... in really low grade temporary buildings and trailers... easily infiltrated by bears and other wild animals.

Sounds like 200 Saulteaux Cres. Keep treating your public sector like shit, and they'll respond like shit. But then again who needs a department like Water Stewardship and Conservation. What possible good could they do?

[flatlander]

winnipeg has so much opertunity were on the virg of somthing big.

how much debt does the province have atm?

Let's see if this copies properly . . .

Net financial debt of provincial and territorial general governments at March 31, 20051
Province or territory Net financial debt Change in net financial debt over 2004 Per capita Population at April 1
$ millions % $ thousands
Newfoundland and Labrador 10,011 0.7 19,439 515
Prince Edward Island 1,251 -3.1 9,065 138
Nova Scotia 11,516 -1.8 12,290 937
New Brunswick 5,687 -3.8 7,563 752
Quebec 99,874 2.3 13,173 7,582
Ontario 110,489 4.8 8,833 12,508
Manitoba 11,428 3.4 9,734 1,174
Saskatchewan 9,236 -8.9 9,310 992
Alberta -19,661 ... -6,040 3,255
British Columbia 19,201 -9.7 4,527 4,241
Yukon -280 ... -9,032 31
Northwest Territories -49 ... -1,140 43
Nunavut 341 7.6 11,367 30

[1ajs]

Let's see if this copies properly . . .

Net financial debt of provincial and territorial general governments at March 31, 20051
Province or territory Net financial debt Change in net financial debt over 2004 Per capita Population at April 1
$ millions % $ thousands
Newfoundland and Labrador 10,011 0.7 19,439 515
Prince Edward Island 1,251 -3.1 9,065 138
Nova Scotia 11,516 -1.8 12,290 937
New Brunswick 5,687 -3.8 7,563 752
Quebec 99,874 2.3 13,173 7,582
Ontario 110,489 4.8 8,833 12,508
Manitoba 11,428 3.4 9,734 1,174
Saskatchewan 9,236 -8.9 9,310 992
Alberta -19,661 ... -6,040 3,255
British Columbia 19,201 -9.7 4,527 4,241
Yukon -280 ... -9,032 31
Northwest Territories -49 ... -1,140 43
Nunavut 341 7.6 11,367 30

these numbers don't quite make sens to me

[newflyer]

Sounds like 200 Saulteaux Cres. Keep treating your public sector like shit, and they'll respond like shit. But then again who needs a department like Water Stewardship and Conservation. What possible good could they do?

hey.. there is tons of water way up there. :haha:


The fact is the public sector has been treated like royalty for far too long. Paid far beyond the private sector, with a much lower level of professionalism or productivity. They are real good a wasting billions and tax payers dollars and coming back for more when the coffers are low... with little public accountability. All to willing to cut off work early without any consiquences.

Please ... I think it is the public taxpayers who have been mistreated for far too long.. and the public sector deserves the mistrust they have so rightfully earned.

In my world they wouldn't be a poison to the fabric of this city anymore... alas my heart's vision of the city will not become reality. Hopefully the public sector is still held to account and made to earn there way and where possible compete with the private sector.

Why do government workers make a $15 a hospital sandwich .. when the private sector can make the same sandwhich for less than $5. Yeah I love worthless sandwich buracracy. :koko:

Damn .. you gotta love the NDP!!!

[1ajs]

hospital food thats somthing that got fucked over gee i rember the filman days of the sandwitch scandle on 24 hours...

[newflyer]

Sounds like a bad joke...

How many government workers does it take to make a sandwich??

1 overpaid government worker makes it .. and a building full of overpaid government buracrats document its creation and study how it effects the environomet of the artic fox. :rolleyes:

[Pootkao]

wow. that may just be the most cynical post ever. you sure you don't live here, newflyer?

;)

[viperred88]

even though its taking so long to get this project going, I would rather see this project slowly done right than quickly assembled half hazardly. Be patient it will happen and I am sure the historic society is keen on doing this baby right, the staff wants nothing but the best for the project. That I can guarantee from what I saw historic reps Cindy Tugwell & Jeanne Perreault informational session this past summer.

[1ajs]

why is every one so unpatent were moving along alot faster then encana did so far...

[newflyer]

wow. that may just be the most cynical post ever. you sure you don't live here, newflyer?

;)

nope... but as you can tell I haven't forgotten great socialism can get. :D

Now that I live in Alberta it is more funny than anything.... too bad it screws up my home city, which could be much better.

[1ajs]

nope... but as you can tell I haven't forgotten great socialism can get. :D

Now that I live in Alberta it is more funny than anything.... too bad it screws up my home city, which could be much better.

what exactly is your obligation that os holding you in calgary

[newflyer]

why is every one so unpatent were moving along alot faster then encana did so far...

hard to tell... the Encana project sat in waiting fir a long time, but this project hasn't broke yet either. So far it is little more than secrets and rumours.

At least Encana annouced that they planned on building there own tower... everyone just had to wait for the design.

[1ajs]

hard to tell... the Encana project sat in waiting fir a long time, but this project hasn't broke yet either. So far it is little more than secrets and rumours.

At least Encana annouced that they planned on building there own tower... everyone just had to wait for the design.

well newflyer were sitting here waiting for the city to tell us witch project they want built... but atleast some of us have seen somthing. were in encana no one knew anything o and one of the forumers is working on the 20 story one.

[newflyer]

but atleast some of us have seen somthing.

really?? ... yes some of us have .. hmmm ;)

I also believe that I mentioned the 20 story building months ago.... :P

[Canadian Mind]

do we even have leaks of info yet? :p

[Only The Lonely..]

do we even have leaks of info yet? :p

Yes, some of us are in the know.

[Only The Lonely..]

Just remember the Hydro tower..

2002: Winnipeg Hydro sold to MB Hydro on promise to build a new downtown office

2004: Downtown site selected
2005: Drawings released
2006: Construction
2007: Building complete?

I imagine for 100 Main...

2007: Various redevelopment proposals announced
2008: By this time we will know the winning proposal and design of the building
2009: Construction
2010 - 2011: Building is ready for occupancy.

Be patient everybody.

[Greco Roman]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8843/houstonatsunsetoc2.jpg


Like I said... my heart thinks BIG. :tup:


Oooooooo............a skyline in Winnipeg, like that one, would be really sexy :banana:

[h0twired]

why is every one so unpatent were moving along alot faster then encana did so far...

impatient.

At least with the Encana tower we knew that the tower was guaranteed to go up (more or less). The 100 Main St project could still end up as another park or historical site.

[1ajs]

Oooooooo............a skyline in Winnipeg, like that one, would be really sexy :banana:

we got a skyline!
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/804/skylinecc6.jpg

[h0twired]

we got a skyline!


not like the one he was comparing it to.

[1ajs]

not like the one he was comparing it to.

the one he showed i found to be fugly......

[viperred88]

impatient.

At least with the Encana tower we knew that the tower was guaranteed to go up (more or less). The 100 Main St project could still end up as another park or historical site.


well it could be, or how about a mixture of condos ontop of historical interpretive centers.

[h0twired]

well it could be, or how about a mixture of condos ontop of historical interpretive centers.

I would prefer an office tower.

Does Winnipeg really need more museums and I have heard that downtown condos arent exactly selling all that well. There are still a number of riverfront condos available.

An office tower will get more people working (and potentially living) in the downtown core. Condos will remain empty until people start working downtown.

[freeweed]

I have heard that downtown condos arent exactly selling all that well. There are still a number of riverfront condos available.


Considering I've heard numbers in the $300,000 range, I'm highly impressed that these are selling AT ALL. It speaks volumes on how much Winnipeg has improved in just the past few years that a condo would even sell for that, let alone in the downtown.

Give it time, and unless this is just a short-lived yuppie fad, you'll see plenty of sold-out condos downtown.

[flatlander]

It's interesting the price points that Waterfront Drive is getting. They're certainly expensive relative to the rest of the market, but reasonable value. The market at that level is only so deep however. If there were more modest units built, in particular one bedroom or 700 sq ft lofts for $125-$200k you'd see a lot more activity.

[Lee_Haber8]

I would prefer an office tower.

Does Winnipeg really need more museums and I have heard that downtown condos arent exactly selling all that well. There are still a number of riverfront condos available.

An office tower will get more people working (and potentially living) in the downtown core. Condos will remain empty until people start working downtown.

60,000 people already work downtown. The number one priority right now should be to have more people living downtown. If demand is low they should add improvements like more parks, improved public spaces and better transit access to make it more desirable