[The Diva]

Ahh, diplomacy....

[flatlander]

^^Play nice.

[The Diva]

I promise....

[fengshui]

Off topic anyways... [just think that tower can't make up its mind what it should be - first rectangular, then a round bit stacked on that, then a tacked on rooftop screen]

Back to 100 Main, is anybody picking up any clues as to when a recommendation will be made?

[The Diva]

Yeah, I thought this complicated, inert way of doing business here was supposed to die....

[RAFS]

Off topic anyways... [just think that tower can't make up its mind what it should be - first rectangular, then a round bit stacked on that, then a tacked on rooftop screen]

Back to 100 Main, is anybody picking up any clues as to when a recommendation will be made?

May 22

[Greco Roman]

May 22


Is that a guarentee on when we will find out about Winnipeg's newest park at 100 Main St.? :rolleyes:

[jimj_wpg]

May 22

May 21st, the day before the Prov. Election.

[RAFS]

Is that a guarentee on when we will find out about Winnipeg's newest park at 100 Main St.? :rolleyes:

Hey, when it comes to city politics, nothing is a guarantee :haha: . But, the city has said that May 22 is the decision day. One of the developers is out of town til the 23, but said they would be calling in on the 22 to see which proposal has won. Theirs is the front runner, but please don't ask. I have probably said more than I should already.

[Brokenhead]

Can't wait till May 22nd.

Anyway May 21st is part of the long weekend.

[Greco Roman]

Hey, when it comes to city politics, nothing is a guarantee :haha: . But, the city has said that May 22 is the decision day. One of the developers is out of town til the 23, but said they would be calling in on the 22 to see which proposal has won. Theirs is the front runner, but please don't ask. I have probably said more than I should already.


It's the park, isn't it? :(

[1ajs]

It is funny how different people like different things. I have always loved 225 South Sixth tower ever since it was built. I spend a lot of time in Minneapolis and love how it's blue glass and white glowing crown seem to contrast the other beautiful tower - Wells Fargo with its yellow brick and golden lit roof line at dusk.

Opinions vary!:cool:

yea its a nice building :cool:
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may 22 ok marks teh calender

[Greco Roman]

yea its a nice building :cool:
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may 22 ok marks teh calender

Like what was said before; Minneapolis is the city Winnipeg SHOULD HAVE BEEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really do like Minneapolis :banana:

[1ajs]

Like what was said before; Minneapolis is the city Winnipeg SHOULD HAVE BEEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really do like Minneapolis :banana:

got friends in the twin cities :D

[Only The Lonely..]

You bet I am--I love Minneapolis. It is the city Winnipeg should be....

I normally agree with almost everything you say..

But c'mon girl, Winnipeg has so much more grit and personality than Minneapolis. That place save for a few blocks of the downtown is almost all freeway's, sprawl, office parks, and shopping malls.


Their 'warehouse' district is a joke compared to the exchange. I was in Minneapolis for my first time last year and thought right away that our exchange district could blow the roof off of that place.

Overall, Winnipeg has an architectually much more interesting downtown. We have a greater variety of architecture built over the 20th - 21st centuries. Whereas, in Minneapolis it seems like everything was built in the last 30 years.

Granted, i'd like to see a couple of good 40 - 60 story scrapers take shape in our city over my lifetime , but that can still happen.

[1ajs]

I normally agree with almost everything you say..

But c'mon girl, Winnipeg has so much more grit and personality than Minneapolis. That place save for a few blocks of the downtown is almost all freeway's, sprawl, office parks, and shopping malls.


Their 'warehouse' district is a joke compared to the exchange. I was in Minneapolis for my first time last year and thought right away that our exchange district could blow the roof off of that place.

Overall, Winnipeg has an architectually much more interesting downtown. We have a greater variety of architecture built over the 20th - 21st centuries. Whereas, in Minneapolis it seems like everything was built in the last 30 years.

Granted, i'd like to see a couple of good 40 - 60 story scrapers take shape in our city over my lifetime , but that can still happen.

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[RAFS]

It's the park, isn't it? :(

That area doesn't need another park ;)

[Boreal]

Hallelujah!

I would be fairly upset if a Faux-Park graced 100 Main.

As long as it's not the park, I'll be happy. Not that I'm against greenspace, but if there is one thing this city DOESN'T suffer from, it's open (and green) spaces. A faux-park off the beaten path, as far as pedestrians go, wouldn't serve much use. Certainly a recreation of the fort wouldn't be a huge draw either. Tower here we come ...only thing to wait and see ...is will it be closer to 20, or closer to 40?:cool:

...Your hints have swept a smile across my face RAFS.:tup:

Edit: If we're worried about greenspace, there is plenty of surface lots we can sod over. ;)

[The Diva]

I normally agree with almost everything you say..

But c'mon girl, Winnipeg has so much more grit and personality than Minneapolis. That place save for a few blocks of the downtown is almost all freeway's, sprawl, office parks, and shopping malls.


Their 'warehouse' district is a joke compared to the exchange. I was in Minneapolis for my first time last year and thought right away that our exchange district could blow the roof off of that place.

Overall, Winnipeg has an architectually much more interesting downtown. We have a greater variety of architecture built over the 20th - 21st centuries. Whereas, in Minneapolis it seems like everything was built in the last 30 years.

Granted, i'd like to see a couple of good 40 - 60 story scrapers take shape in our city over my lifetime , but that can still happen.


I would set your standards a bit higher vi-a-vis the Exchange....it is okaaay, but bursting with potential. It is far from what it can, and should be.

Downtown Minneapolis is vibrant, clean and modern. It is a city with a very good rep as a place of commerce, and its economy is quite large.

Winnipeg has more grit, you betcha! Personality? If masses of poor people, and miscreants/panhandlers give us more personality, then ok...

[Only The Lonely..]

I would set your standards a bit higher vi-a-vis the Exchange....it is okaaay, but bursting with potential. It is far from what it can, and should be.

Downtown Minneapolis is vibrant, clean and modern. It is a city with a very good rep as a place of commerce, and its economy is quite large.

Winnipeg has more grit, you betcha! Personality? If masses of poor people, and miscreants/panhandlers give us more personality, then ok...

I agree with your comments about the exchange. What I should have said is "if the exchange district ever gets its act together it would be unrivaled by anything Minneapolis has to offer". For that matter, it would be unrivaled by most places in N.America.

I Hope that's better.

[The Diva]

It is....lol

I have travelled quite a bit, and the first thing I do when I visit another city is check out its warehouse district. Out of all the places I have been, I am quite sad with the state of ours. For the most part, the Exchange is absolutely dreaery...Princess has to be on of the worst strips...no street life at all. There are no funky home decor shops, no delicatessens....The only way the area will realize its potential is to flood the area with housing...I just don't get the lack of vision here even after so many damn attempts (a la City Summit). a couple dozen units a year is NOT even nearly adequate....very embarassing...VERY!

[Alva360]

Hallelujah!

I would be fairly upset if a Faux-Park graced 100 Main.

As long as it's not the park, I'll be happy. Not that I'm against greenspace, but if there is one thing this city DOESN'T suffer from, it's open (and green) spaces. A faux-park off the beaten path, as far as pedestrians go, wouldn't serve much use. Certainly a recreation of the fort wouldn't be a huge draw either. Tower here we come ...only thing to wait and see ...is will it be closer to 20, or closer to 40?:cool:

...Your hints have swept a smile across my face RAFS.:tup:

Edit: If we're worried about greenspace, there is plenty of surface lots we can sod over. ;)

Sure hope it's the tower........ that would be awesome! :notacrook:

[Sirus]

I normally agree with almost everything you say..

But c'mon girl, Winnipeg has so much more grit and personality than Minneapolis. That place save for a few blocks of the downtown is almost all freeway's, sprawl, office parks, and shopping malls.


Their 'warehouse' district is a joke compared to the exchange. I was in Minneapolis for my first time last year and thought right away that our exchange district could blow the roof off of that place.

Overall, Winnipeg has an architectually much more interesting downtown. We have a greater variety of architecture built over the 20th - 21st centuries. Whereas, in Minneapolis it seems like everything was built in the last 30 years.

Granted, i'd like to see a couple of good 40 - 60 story scrapers take shape in our city over my lifetime , but that can still happen.


I'd agree with that one... we decided it'd be more fun to tear down all of our old buildings! :D

But don't be fooled. Minneapolis is an old city with a rich history. The late 50s and early 60s were tough on the older buildings, but many still remain and there's always St. Paul which preserved many more of its historical structures.

[The Diva]

Hopefully, it will have a great ground level restaurant. I think we have enough independents in this city...I want a branded restaurant. I went to Ruby Tuesday in Boca Raton and man was it good. I'd love one here....also a big fan of Jack Astors, and TGI Fridays

[drew]

TGI Fridays? Nothing special really. Just like all those other "applebees" type chains around...

[The Diva]

.....

[The Diva]

If it is "nothing special", then why did I pay $60 for two cheesburger platters, huh? Oh wait, that was in Times Square....never mind, hehe

Brands like these are "around" because they are good. Brand recognition at its best, consistent quality (maybe not always, right...but for the most part you know what you are in store for). I am all for trying no restaurants, but to have chains in your downtown does suggest it is a healthy downtown that is open for investment. Besides that, as far as TGI Fridays, I love their signage...

Imagine something like this opening on Princess, or Main Street...Graham?

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[c vist]

Hey, when it comes to city politics, nothing is a guarantee :haha: . But, the city has said that May 22 is the decision day. One of the developers is out of town til the 23, but said they would be calling in on the 22 to see which proposal has won. Theirs is the front runner, but please don't ask. I have probably said more than I should already.

hmmm very interesting ... and you probably did say to much (but I don't mind). Election day is a pretty stupid day for an anouncement though!

[bomberguy]

That area doesn't need another park ;)

=O

=)

[RAFS]

hmmm very interesting ... and you probably did say to much (but I don't mind). Election day is a pretty stupid day for an anouncement though!

Oh well :cool:

I believe the May 22 date was choosen before the election was announced.

[Only The Lonely..]

I'd agree with that one... we decided it'd be more fun to tear down all of our old buildings! :D

But don't be fooled. Minneapolis is an old city with a rich history. The late 50s and early 60s were tough on the older buildings, but many still remain and there's always St. Paul which preserved many more of its historical structures.

I think Minneapolis has its own charm. It's certainly a much more forrested and hilly city than Winnipeg. I just feel that comparing Winnipeg and Minneapolis is a case of Apples and Oranges.

Both cities are relatively isolated, cold, and have a similiar ethnic make-up. But that's about where the similarities end, outside of that, were pretty different towns.

[Marc B.]

^ How so? For a large city that's so close, I don't know enough about Minneapolis. I've only been through once on the train. So, it's a sincere question.

[The Diva]

Well, then compare Winnipeg to Vancouver or Montreal for that matter. Minneapolis is an economic powerhouse, while Winnipeg is, well, a rather stale, slow-growth city which appears so tired and dated. Drunks/panhandlers/Aboriginals, and a variety of other misfits hang around our downtown, while Minneapolis is a vibrant city that has everything going for it.

[Marc B.]

Um, ok. I'm more interested in what Only meant by apples and oranges. I think he meant that there were historical, economic I don't know political differences between here and Minneapolis. Like I said, I don't know much about the city. I always thought the two cities had a lot of similarities due to their proximity.

[ScrappyPeg]

And here I thought that the downtowns of any major city will attract drunks, panhandlers and other social misfits - guess it only happens in Winnipeg!

[newflyer]

If it is "nothing special", then why did I pay $60 for two cheesburger platters, huh? Oh wait, that was in Times Square....never mind, hehe

Brands like these are "around" because they are good. Brand recognition at its best, consistent quality (maybe not always, right...but for the most part you know what you are in store for). I am all for trying no restaurants, but to have chains in your downtown does suggest it is a healthy downtown that is open for investment. Besides that, as far as TGI Fridays, I love their signage...

Imagine something like this opening on Princess, or Main Street...Graham?

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My favorite TGI Fridays is the one on the Magnificient Mile in Chicago ..the while atmosphere of that strip is magical. Vibrant and active day and night. Winnipeg has a long way to go to build something with even the fraction of this level, but it should be our target.

I agree about Minniapolis as well. They have a very nice downtown. Very attractive.

[The Diva]

And here I thought that the downtowns of any major city will attract drunks, panhandlers and other social misfits - guess it only happens in Winnipeg!

Hmmmm...no, but with a lack of middle to upper class people filling our sidealks downtown, here, they are quite prominent. This could easily change once the Avenue Building is redeveloped, and more upscale condos are developed along Portage. The idea is to see people (better people) spilling out of buildings along Portage, etc during all hours. As it stands now, there is a horribly visible number of undesireables hanging around Portage Place, in front of the Air Canada Building...they could be absorbed if the number of desireable people was higher. People carrying shopping bags, walking with ice cream in hand, people walking their dogs, people in business attire....It also does not help that there are a few buildings that are derilect enough to create melancholy (again, block with Avenue Building)...no patios, etc.

[Only The Lonely..]

Um, ok. I'm more interested in what Only meant by apples and oranges. I think he meant that there were historical, economic I don't know political differences between here and Minneapolis. Like I said, I don't know much about the city. I always thought the two cities had a lot of similarities due to their proximity.

Let me do my best to try and elaborate on what I said.

I think Winnipeg has a lot of problems that Minneapolis doesn't have. For example, Winnipeg has a vast rugged northern frontier, Minneapolis does not.

What happens is we get a lot poor uneducated folks from the North who have no job prospects that drift into town seeking opportunity. Conversely, Minneapolis is 8 hours from Chicago, 4 from Fargo, and is a city three times bigger than Calgary. Their city isn't nearly as isolated as ours, and as a result they can draw on a much more educated and affluent hinterland.

Their relative prosperity would be hard to emulate for us because we have various social burdens that they do not have to contend with.

Outside of that, I just found Minneapolis to be a very different city. It doesn't have nearly as many old buildings or neighbourhoods. I think Minneapolis is older than Winnipeg by quite a bit, but you wouldn't know that from driving through.

[Only The Lonely..]

And here I thought that the downtowns of any major city will attract drunks, panhandlers and other social misfits - guess it only happens in Winnipeg!

Actually it is just Winnipeg.

I've been to downtown Philadelphia, Boston, San Francisco, Minneapolis and DC and i've never been asked for change and smokes as often as I have in front of Portage Place.

[The Diva]

We have pussy-footed around this for too long, and as a result, our downtown is suffering. I think it is time for the police to start bashing heads. Sorry if that offends anyone, but being all warm & fuzzy and just allowing it has hurt our downtown immensely. We HAVE TO clean this up. For me, this is unsightly, yes, but it would never, ever stop me from going downtown; there are many other people (many women of course, but men too--wimps) who will not spend time downtown unless it is at the Forks. These people, the ones with money, are th eones we NEED downtown. If we have to kick trash to the curb to clean up downtown, let's do it!

[Marc B.]

OK Only, thanks for explaining. That's an interesting take on the relative isolation of both cities.

I disagree that, say run of the mill, poverty in Winnipeg is much worse than most other cities, though I don't have any facts to back that up. The homeless underclass in Toronto is both very large and visual. I'm always a little surprised when I visit, even though I lived there back in the day.

But, it does seem that there's a street-level mental health problem here that's disproportionate to the size of the city. Again, no facts, but the amount of crazy on Portage just seems huge most days.

[rgalston]

But, it does seem that there's a street-level mental health problem here that's disproportionate to the size of the city. Again, no facts, but the amount of crazy on Portage just seems huge most days.

Chalk that up to the über-PC de-institutionizing attempts of past and current NDP governments. That's not mentally troubled people living in isolation and squalor, extremely vulnerable to all types of abuse, who are walking the mean streets of downtown Winnipeg; that's people with intellectual disabilities who are living in the community.

[1ajs]

any of you walk down portage ave this week?

[The Diva]

I have actually noticed it busier than usual...which is sooo nice to see. But man, the jubilation is still overshadowed by the decay that still abounds.

[1ajs]

I have actually noticed it busier than usual...which is sooo nice to see. But man, the jubilation is still overshadowed by the decay that still abounds.

yes but its more vibrint and the bums seem to just sit there now like in every other city......

though yesterday i bumbed into some buisnes suit guy in his 50's and apoligized to him and he said don't talk to me! wtf?

[Greco Roman]

If we have to kick trash to the curb to clean up downtown, let's do it!


I agree, but as long as we don't kick it to other ends of the city. Let's kick it right out of the province, or find some sort of "healing" solution for them, which is not easy.

[jimj_wpg]

I have actually noticed it busier than usual...which is sooo nice to see. But man, the jubilation is still overshadowed by the decay that still abounds.

Yes, the Avenue Building will be reused. So chikai (wait).

Everyone was out downtown on all the streets because of the +31 C temps.

[c vist]

though yesterday i bumbed into some buisnes suit guy in his 50's and apoligized to him and he said don't talk to me! wtf?
That's what you get when you bump into Sam Katz!

[1ajs]

That's what you get when you bump into Sam Katz!

it was not same katz it was some fat guy in a suit and i had my bag hangin of the handle bar... due to the fact my strap on my back pack snaped off :S witch i had to stop for a red light and lost my balance

[ScrappyPeg]

Hmmmm...no, but with a lack of middle to upper class people filling our sidealks downtown, here, they are quite prominent. This could easily change once the Avenue Building is redeveloped, and more upscale condos are developed along Portage. The idea is to see people (better people) spilling out of buildings along Portage, etc during all hours. As it stands now, there is a horribly visible number of undesireables hanging around Portage Place, in front of the Air Canada Building...they could be absorbed if the number of desireable people was higher. People carrying shopping bags, walking with ice cream in hand, people walking their dogs, people in business attire....It also does not help that there are a few buildings that are derilect enough to create melancholy (again, block with Avenue Building)...no patios, etc.

This I completely agree with! They are just too damn visible and makes it seem they are bloody everywhere when, in reality, there are just not enough other people (who aren't stumbling around harassing people for money or travelling in gangs of folks who sniff like, well, sniff....).

I hope people don't really believe that 'poverty' can be fully eradicated though - people with mental health issues will always gravitate towards downtown - that's just the way it is. Unfortunately, some of them feel safer on the 'mean' streets.

[Only The Lonely..]

Alrighty back on the subject of 100...

The wait continues

[newflyer]

This I completely agree with! They are just too damn visible and makes it seem they are bloody everywhere when, in reality, there are just not enough other people (who aren't stumbling around harassing people for money or travelling in gangs of folks who sniff like, well, sniff....).

I hope people don't really believe that 'poverty' can be fully eradicated though - people with mental health issues will always gravitate towards downtown - that's just the way it is. Unfortunately, some of them feel safer on the 'mean' streets.

I agree with what been said. Its an unpleasing ratio of undesirables to desirables.. this is partially do to decades of weak business development in the downtown area. It has only started to look up in the last couple years, with more business locating downown and in the exchange.

As far as the Avenue Building being turned into highend condos, I would love it as much as anybody, but I don't see people wanting to live along Portage Ave, which is seen by the public as a dirty strip of bums. Portage Ave needs to be cleaned up before there will be any high-end anything. Banning panhandling and squeege kids in the downtown area would be a great start. I would also like to see strict conditions set on where payday loan outlets can open. It also doesn't help that all poverty related government services are drawing clientel downtown,for free money.

The city at least needs to do its part and create as pleasant of an environment as possible. There is no room for people who ruin downtown for everyone else. They have to show at least intent to face this problem. Its killing most other attempts by people who want to see Winnipeg's downtown become vibrant. Joe Public wants to walk down the street without being pestered for change. If its unacceptable in the burbs, than why is it acceptable downtown.

A more visible and persistant civilian patrol may be a part of a sollution, as it seems to be working in parts of downtown Calgary. I would also like to see some camera positioned in front of Portage Place/bus stop and infront of Air Canada. Hopefully this would help to discourage any illegal activities.

[newflyer]

Alrighty back on the subject of 100...

The wait continues

tick......talk .... tick .... talk..... :rolleyes:


city department at work.... :sleep: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Only The Lonely..]

tick......talk .... tick .... talk..... :rolleyes:


city department at work.... :sleep: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Opportunity ...:sleep: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Young people heading west..:banaride:

[newflyer]

Opportunity ...:sleep: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Young people heading west..:banaride:



That has never made things go faster before ..... they'll be done when they are good and ready .. and thats alot of smoke breaks, coffee breaks and taking it easy. :slob:

They'll get back to us sometime next year... :sly:

[Only The Lonely..]

That has never made things go faster before ..... they'll be done when they are good and ready .. and thats alot of smoke breaks, coffee breaks and taking it easy. :slob:

They'll get back to us sometime next year... :sly:

I thought they were supposed to get back to us sometime last year. Didn't someone on here once confidently declare that we would know which proposal had won by December '06 ?

[newflyer]

I thought they were supposed to get back to us sometime last year. Didn't someone on here once confidently declare that we would know which proposal had won by December '06 ?

LOL .... and you actually believed that?? :jester:


I said they were going to reveal it April 1 '07 as a April Fools Joke .. but was proved wrong. This thing is tied in so much city read tape and beauracratic efficiency of multiple departments I am sure we'll be waiting a while longer.

[Only The Lonely..]

LOL .... and you actually believed that?? :jester:


I said they were going to reveal it April 1 '07 as a April Fools Joke .. but was proved wrong. This thing is tied in so much city read tape and beauracratic efficiency of multiple departments I am sure we'll be waiting a while longer.

When you going to run for mayor Newflyer, this town awaits its prodigal son.

[c vist]

^ Well that's a son I'd point the finger to the greener pasture and say "get" to, if he ever came home again (and if I were the father ... no forgiveness here).

As for 100 main ... red tape a plenty ... taking longer than expected ... just another day in the life of my experience with beaurocrats (all 3 levels).

[1ajs]

^ Well that's a son I'd point the finger to the greener pasture and say "get" to, if he ever came home again (and if I were the father ... no forgiveness here).

As for 100 main ... red tape a plenty ... taking longer than expected ... just another day in the life of my experience with beaurocrats (all 3 levels).

all 3 LEVELS! huh?

[newflyer]

^ Well that's a son I'd point the finger to the greener pasture and say "get" to, if he ever came home again (and if I were the father ... no forgiveness here).

As for 100 main ... red tape a plenty ... taking longer than expected ... just another day in the life of my experience with beaurocrats (all 3 levels).

So you are sore, becuase I followed my career? Since I have arrive in Calgary I have done my part to promote Winnipeg as a great city. Just because I currently live in Calgary I am not any less a Winnipeger. The truth is I have lived in many places, but have always called Winnipeg home and will return when the time is right.

[newflyer]

When you going to run for mayor Newflyer, this town awaits its prodigal son.

Thanks... you are too kind. :cheers:

I may consider a run in politics at some point if I thought I stood and chance and saw opportunity. With that said I do have future plans on a business level which I hope might improve the city, if only by a modest amount.

[jalapano]

:previous:
i would vote for you,
all the politicians need to do is read everything discussed off this forum

:cool:

[c vist]

So you are sore, because I followed my career? Since I have arrive in Calgary I have done my part to promote Winnipeg as a great city. Just because I currently live in Calgary I am not any less a Winnipeger. The truth is I have lived in many places, but have always called Winnipeg home and will return when the time is right.
Well we do have a history of Mayors that spend their time elsewhere ... Murray, Thompson (and Katz spends more time at his home in Phoenix than in Winnipeg), so I guess it's plausible that you could fly back when the going's good enough to support your lifestyle, build up your name, run for office, then leave when the going gets rough.

[1ajs]

Well we do have a history of Mayors that spend their time elsewhere ... Murray, Thompson (and Katz spends more time at his home in Phoenix than in Winnipeg), so I guess it's plausible that you could fly back when the going's good enough to support your lifestyle, build up your name, run for office, then leave when the going gets rough.

aww katz lost the house to his wife did he not......

[newflyer]

aww katz lost the house to his wife did he not......

I don't think the divorse is final... but this is a good reason why running for politics is such a turnoff to most people. Your private life is not private.

Nobody cares what some guy in a business office does in his home life, unless maybe your at the top of the foodchain.

[drew]

The reason I cared about Katz's marriage is because when he campaigned originally for mayor - he had his trophy wife and daughter at his side, and lot's of us knew it was a sham. His marriage was essentially over, as just months before that same election he was spending quite a bit of time with his early-20's girlfriend. He is so fake it hurts.

[Greco Roman]

Well we do have a history of Mayors that spend their time elsewhere ... Murray, Thompson (and Katz spends more time at his home in Phoenix than in Winnipeg), so I guess it's plausible that you could fly back when the going's good enough to support your lifestyle, build up your name, run for office, then leave when the going gets rough.

Is that really true? If so, then we really don't have anyone running the city who cares, now do we? :hell:

I say ship his ass out there permanently and get someone in here who isn't afraid to actually LIVE in Winnipeg.

[Greco Roman]

So yeah, now that I'm way OT, how's that big tall sleek tower coming along on Main St.? :P

[1ajs]

So yeah, now that I'm way OT, how's that big tall sleek tower coming along on Main St.? :P

still a city owner surface lot

[viperred88]

your all gonna hate me when I say this" Perhaps it would be better to have a 10 -20 storey on 2 blocks (long) office building with retail facing portage avenue. Perhaps it should be situated right by the Bay at the corner of vaugh and portage. This way we would have a much denser downtown. Just a thought.


Getting ready for the hate mail lol.

[newflyer]

Well we do have a history of Mayors that spend their time elsewhere ... Murray, Thompson (and Katz spends more time at his home in Phoenix than in Winnipeg), so I guess it's plausible that you could fly back when the going's good enough to support your lifestyle, build up your name, run for office, then leave when the going gets rough.

Not sure where you got the idea he spends more time in pheonix, but I'd be willing to bet you are wrong. He was born and raised in Winnipeg is now the mayor, and used the house in Pheonix as a winter home before taking office.

[flatlander]

I thought his wife mostly used the house in Phoenix with her 'personal trainer.'

[jimj_wpg]

your all gonna hate me when I say this" Perhaps it would be better to have a 10 -20 storey on 2 blocks (long) office building with retail facing portage avenue. Perhaps it should be situated right by the Bay at the corner of vaugh and portage. This way we would have a much denser downtown. Just a thought.


Getting ready for the hate mail lol.

How about right on top of The Bay site? That would really improve that corner fer shur. :yes:

http://images.findgift.com/Graphics/Gifts/PR_81810.jpg

[jimj_wpg]

He was born and raised in Winnipeg ...

Born and raised in a prairie town. Portage & Main 50 below...

[The Diva]

The Bay parkade needs to be replaced by a condo tower...or at least renovated to include facades...a parking garage should never look like a...well, parking garage.

[Alva360]

The Bay parkade needs to be replaced by a condo tower...or at least renovated to include facades...a parking garage should never look like a...well, parking garage.

I concur.....

[Kitty Surprise]

The Bay parkade needs to be replaced by a condo tower...or at least renovated to include facades...a parking garage should never look like a...well, parking garage.


Can you imagine how good that spot would look with a modern mixed use 15-20 story tower with curtains of glass and balconies higher up, overlooking Memorial Park? The contrast of styles with The Bay and WAG would create a huge overall visual impact.

[1ajs]

Can you imagine how good that spot would look with a modern mixed use 15-20 story tower with curtains of glass and balconies higher up, overlooking Memorial Park? The contrast of styles with The Bay and WAG would create a huge overall visual impact.
sure would lol :cool:

[viperred88]

Can you imagine how good that spot would look with a modern mixed use 15-20 story tower with curtains of glass and balconies higher up, overlooking Memorial Park? The contrast of styles with The Bay and WAG would create a huge overall visual impact.


How about this, the Bay upper floors will become Manitoba lotteries or the casino offices,so why not convert the whole Bay building in a classy casino with high-end food a stage featuring various acts including the wpg symphony and ballet.

The parkade could become a parkade and hotel or an expansion of the casino.

The bay would move into a new portage place mall that would be built along portage.

[flatlander]

The Bay parkade needs to be replaced by a condo tower...or at least renovated to include facades...a parking garage should never look like a...well, parking garage.

A parking garage should absolutely look like a parking garage! There are tons of cool parking garages. Nothing worse than a parking garage that looks like something hokey.

That being said i'd much rather have a building there.

[furiousmcd]

I also agree that something needs to be put where the Bay Parkade is, but not at the expense of all of that parking. It could be put underground or just moved elsewhere. Anyways, I think that if they are going to put a building there, it should play off of the themes of the Bay building. What I mean is to make a building that continues the flow of the Bay but then puts a post modern spin on it.

I did this with a Train Museum idea as part of my overall project in the Plan Your Winnipeg competition. Here is a picture of it.

http://www.freewebs.com/furiousmcdpics/Train%20Museum.JPG

Hahah, yeah, I know it's kind of poor quality, but it was made in MS Paint so I'm fine with it :rolleyes:

[1ajs]

I also agree that something needs to be put where the Bay Parkade is, but not at the expense of all of that parking. It could be put underground or just moved elsewhere. Anyways, I think that if they are going to put a building there, it should play off of the themes of the Bay building. What I mean is to make a building that continues the flow of the Bay but then puts a post modern spin on it.

I did this with a Train Museum idea as part of my overall project in the Plan Your Winnipeg competition. Here is a picture of it.

http://www.freewebs.com/furiousmcdpics/Train%20Museum.JPG

Hahah, yeah, I know it's kind of poor quality, but it was made in MS Paint so I'm fine with it :rolleyes:


looks kinda cool would not mind seeing that on main street :)

[Winnipegger]

Okay, just to make you all mad, I have an idea! How about they just tear down the bay and replace it with a 130 meter tall head coporation office tower of McDoanalds! Now wouldn't that be cool. Or even better, they could just build a twin of the Investors Group office building. It would make a nice entrance to downtown when heading east on portage. No, I am just kidding. The Bay plays an important part. Heck, I just finished reading April Raintree and they mention it in there. Anyways, the Bay is kinda lonely, esspecially when you head to the top floor where there is like 1 salesman. You sure get a good view of portage and main though. Aww, good memories...

anyways, back on the subject of 100, I sure hope its something tall. Although the skyline will look funny with a tall building starting to the south, then some nothing, then a few bumps with the Fort Gary, then nothing, then the Hydro in the distance, then the Commodity shadowing the Grain Exchange, then the Canwest and MTS, thena space. then the Richardson. But soon the Gaps between the Fort Gary and the Commodity will fill in, then eventually between the MTS and Richardson... Big dreams maybe. But hey, anyone can dream, no?

[Only The Lonely..]

anyways, back on the subject of 100, I sure hope its something tall. Although the skyline will look funny with a tall building starting to the south, then some nothing, then a few bumps with the Fort Gary, then nothing, then the Hydro in the distance, then the Commodity shadowing the Grain Exchange, then the Canwest and MTS, thena space. then the Richardson. But soon the Gaps between the Fort Gary and the Commodity will fill in, then eventually between the MTS and Richardson... Big dreams maybe. But hey, anyone can dream, no?


I dunno, I think it would be kinda unique. Winnipeg's skyline would have a lot more in common with Boston. I think Bean town has a great skyline considering the gaps it has in it.

http://maureenmurphymusic.com/db2/00184/maureenmurphymusic.com/_uimages/0012.jpg

[Winnipegger]

Yea, I guess it could be unique. But, I don't like that look of Boston. You've got like a nice building jutting out here, and then like a long ways away, you've got another one. In my opinion, the CBD should be very dense. I must say, Portage and Main does a good job. They aren't to close (But I guess the 4 towers couldn't get any closer), but they aren't to spread out. I think its nice. But maybe other people think different which is totally fine

[newflyer]

I dunno, I think it would be kinda unique. Winnipeg's skyline would have a lot more in common with Boston. I think Bean town has a great skyline considering the gaps it has in it.

http://maureenmurphymusic.com/db2/00184/maureenmurphymusic.com/_uimages/0012.jpg

Boston's downtown is absolutely great!! What it lacks for in highrises it makes up for in beauty and refinement.

[Tower Crane]

Boston's downtown is absolutely great!! What it lacks for in highrises it makes up for in beauty and refinement.

Your out to lunch with your comments newflyer "what it lacks in highrises" are you kidding. Do you know where Boston even is.
Boston has 20 - 23 + commercial buildings in excess of 30 stories, approx.150 meters or higher, it also has a couple of 50 - 60 story buildings.

[newflyer]

Your out to lunch with your comments newflyer "what it lacks in highrises" are you kidding. Do you know where Boston even is.
Boston has 20 - 23 + commercial buildings in excess of 30 stories, approx.150 meters or higher, it also has a couple of 50 - 60 story buildings.

I didn't mean it didn't have any highrises, just not the mega towers of some other US cities. Nor does it have the super dense skyline of Chicago.. it as I have stated its downtown is amazing.

[Winnipegger]

Okay, well, anyways, will we find out for sure on tuesday whats going up at 100 Main? I sure hope its something tall.

[newflyer]

Okay, well, anyways, will we find out for sure on tuesday whats going up at 100 Main? I sure hope its something tall.



Really Tuesday??? Are you sure?? Its been so long and really haven't heard any official word. They haven't even made public the proposals yet.. granted they are aware of the senitivity of the surrounding Fort Gary Place seniors, who don't want a new tower to block there views od the Forks.

I really hope you are right about Tuesday.

[ILYR]

... granted they are aware of the senitivity of the surrounding Fort Gary Place seniors, who don't want a new tower to block there views od the Forks ...

Funny how that works, because it was okay for them to block the view of the apartment buildings behind them and those in the Fort Garry Hotel.

[Only The Lonely..]

Okay, well, anyways, will we find out for sure on tuesday whats going up at 100 Main? I sure hope its something tall.

TUESDAY !?!?!

How do you know this?

[pegcity]

Election results and the 100 Main street announcement...What more can you ask for?

Christmas/holiday type of day this Tuesday!

[204]

A parking garage should absolutely look like a parking garage! There are tons of cool parking garages. Nothing worse than a parking garage that looks like something hokey.

That being said i'd much rather have a building there.

Cool looking one in Germany:

http://www.arcguide.info/sixcms/media.php/1977/gls0104muenster01_klein.jpg

[Only The Lonely..]

Election results and the 100 Main street announcement...What more can you ask for?

Christmas/holiday type of day this Tuesday!

My predictions for Tuesday include the NDP, and lots of disappointment.

[Marc B.]

There's a pretty cool looking parking garage at the northeast corner of Bannatyne and Rorie. I'll try to remember to bring my camera to work and take a picture next week. Or if you have any photos Adrian, could you post one?

[1ajs]

the brick one with the red metal work and the shitty looking plexi glass?

[Marc B.]

um, yes, that's the one


well, I think it looks cool

[1ajs]

um, yes, that's the one


well, I think it looks cool


it is but it needs a bit of tlc and no i don't have any pics of it gues i should but i don't