[Vicelord John]

works extremely well. I just thought you were using an ultra wide and were having trouble focusing + didn't know how to use Photoshop. lol

[Evil Empire]

Nice pics, I've got the same thing on my phone's camera.

Block 23...it'd be interesting if they actually come through with something, even if it is a year from now.

[HX_Guy]

works extremely well. I just thought you were using an ultra wide and were having trouble focusing + didn't know how to use Photoshop. lol

I didn't use Photoshop. There is an app on the Apple App Store called AutoStitch that takes pictures you take and combines them automatically...you just choose the pictures that you took in a series and click on "stitch".

[Vicelord John]

No... I meant before you told me about autostitch i thought you couldnt focus or use photoshop.

[gymratmanaz]

The bus stop on Central was finished yesterday. Looks really nice, with its lit up canopy. Also, they have laid some of the sidewalk on the east side of Central, with rebar set for more cement today.

It looks like they just finished the framing to put in the last 8 sections of color changing glass. Here's hoping when they do, we get a show of the whole crown lit up.

Golds looks great with all of its glass installed. There are always workmen there, even on Sunday. They must be in a big push to get that done so they can get presales going!

Seems to be a lot of stuff going on on the decking between tower 1 and 2. Seems like more than just cleaning up. Can't see, so I am not sure.

There are pallets of drywall on the PSP side.

There ya go as per an update........ :)

[HX_Guy]

I'm wondering...what's the deal with the tower cranes? Neither of them has moved in like at least a week.

[PhxPavilion]

^ Well the hotel portion of the second tower is supposed to start early next year right?

[HX_Guy]

Looks like they should start work back up on the elevator core soon but I don't like their wording with "future level 3" and then of course nothing mentioned about going any higher.

Permit# RVSN-0705627-10 Issue Date 12/18/09 Expires 12/18/10
Permit Description CITYSCAPE
Project 06-5309 CITYSCAPE

DESCRIPTION OF WORK: SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING MESA STRUCTURAL , LANDSCAPING, GRADING, IRRIGATION, HARDSCAPE, MESA CANOPIES, PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL. ALSO INCLUDES PERIMETER ROW LANDSCAPING & HARDSCAPE. ASSOCIATED STRUCTURAL AND MECH/ELEC IN THE P1 LEVEL OF THE GARAGE.

*******************REVISION************************
CONTINUATION OF P1 & P2 ELEVATOR SHAFT (DELTA 76) INCLUDES SHAFT FROM LEVEL 2 TO FUTURE LEVEL 3.q

[gymratmanaz]

I have not seeen so many workmen before on Cityscape.
*They are cleaning up everything on the south of the mesa to start the first floors and ..
*They are closing 1st ST to do all the new street curbs and all.
*Looks like they will also put in all the planting and sidewalks for the east side of tower 1.
*Escalators will go in on Monday.
*Three foot high silver light poles are in on Central
*Central sidewalks completed
*Bus stop completed
*Plywood box built around crane with barbed wire to come, to keep climbers off.
* Golds south side scaffolding is coming down as they wash and seal the new stonework.
*New crosswalk lines were going in this morning.
*West stairs are being framed in, starting on the top.
*Support pillars for the pedestrian crosswalk bridge are in on the west side of Central (rebar)
*More framing of vertical studs on PSP side.....

There you have it for Saturday morning. :)

[Vicelord John]

Damn ill have to go check that out.

[HooverDam]

Did we know this already? I cant keep all the lawfirms straight, it was linked to on the Downtown Voices Coalitions site:

http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=DBACB95F5AFE5D804E183D041277D568

Polsinelli Shughart Takes 45,000 SF at CityScape
New Phoenix Office Tower Welcomes Fifth Law Firm

By Emily Baker
December 18, 2009
Polsinelli Shughart PC signed a 10-year lease deal for 45,000 square feet at the CityScape building in Phoenix. The law firm is taking occupancy of the 17th and 18th floors in June of 2010. It is the fifth law firm to sign on with CityScape.

This 27-story office tower building at 1 E. Washington St. is in the heart of downtown Phoenix, across from the Phelps Dodge Corp. building. Currently under construction, the building is due to deliver in March 2010.

Jerry Roberts, Corey Hawley and Jim Fijan of CB Richard Ellis represented the landlord, RED Development.

[Vicelord John]

yay shittyscape!

Anyone else see that maybe Phil Gordon talked all his jew friends into moving in here to make it look like he made the right choice by choosing this project?

I mean, there are a LOT of law firms.

[CraftTeutonic]

yay shittyscape!

Anyone else see that maybe Phil Gordon talked all his jew friends into moving in here to make it look like he made the right choice by choosing this project?

I mean, there are a LOT of law firms.
possibly... the jews do look out for one another...

[gymratmanaz]

Easy there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Craft!!!!!! No reason to get offensive. I know you were going for humor, or at least I hope you were, but there is no need to go there. This is just my opinion, and I hope I misread your comment.

[Vicelord John]

possibly... the jews do look out for one another...

everyone of any race, religion, etc. all look out for each other.

It's a rather prehistoric behavior too. Since the beginning of time, animals of the same type have hearded together and "looked out" for one another.

[Jsmscaleros]

everyone of any race, religion, etc. all look out for each other.

It's a rather prehistoric behavior too. Since the beginning of time, animals of the same type have hearded together and "looked out" for one another.

Not me, I hate everyone.

[PhxPavilion]

I propose we rename Cityscape to Lawyerville.

.

[Vicelord John]

Or Little Jerusalem.

[glynnjamin]

um, Polsinelli is Italian....Roman Catholic

[Vicelord John]

is Shughart Jewish?

[CraftTeutonic]

everyone of any race, religion, etc. all look out for each other.

It's a rather prehistoric behavior too. Since the beginning of time, animals of the same type have hearded together and "looked out" for one another.
the jews seem to do it more-so than others. perhaps its the legacy of the holocaust that provokes this behavior. i would say that whites nowadays don't really look out for each other in the same way that other races or jews do.

[Jsmscaleros]

Quick - someone post a legitimate Cityscape update before this thread gets even stupider.

[Vicelord John]

Yer stupid!

[SunDevil]

Vicelord's thinking that all law firms are Jewish is almost as bad as his thinking that all Latino's are illegal immigrants... almost.

[pre-emptive response] Given your posting history, how could I come to any other conclusion?[/pre-emptive response]

[dtnphx]

Should we expect anything less from someone with Teutonic as part of his name? And Vicelord loves hater company so that's why he's at it again. Moderator, please feel free to step in.

[Vicelord John]

Haterade! Im just stating facts.

[CraftTeutonic]

Should we expect anything less from someone with Teutonic as part of his name? And Vicelord loves hater company so that's why he's at it again. Moderator, please feel free to step in.
What? I just said the jews look out for each other and are a close knit community. How is that a bad thing? btw I use teutonic in my name because the teutons are my favorite unit in Medieval 2 total war(which is a great game btw). You're easily offended aren't you?

[dtnphx]

What? I just said the jews look out for each other and are a close knit community. How is that a bad thing? btw I use teutonic in my name because the teutons are my favorite unit in Medieval 2 total war(which is a great game btw). You're easily offended aren't you?

No, not easily offended, but remarks such as yours were not necessary. Read your entry again and tell me what "truth" you expressed. One could make the argument that many ethnic or racial groups are close knit. Your belief that Jews act a certain way and your need to express it on a skyscraper forum shows that you may have other thoughts on their culture as well. Just guessing this is not the first time expressing it.

[PHX31]

dtnphx,
you called out craftteutonic's comment about jews by making a nearly exact same comment about teutons. a bit hypocritical, no?

let's get back to the real point of the thread.... that RED sucks.

[dtnphx]

dtnphx,
you called out craftteutonic's comment about jews by making a nearly exact same comment about teutons. a bit hypocritical, no?

let's get back to the real point of the thread.... that RED sucks.

RED sucks? What's wrong with RED? ;)

[gymratmanaz]

Will you all go downtown and look at the project. Who knows, maybe you can come up with some comments dealing with.....oh I don't know.... Cityscape.

And with that said... Escalator installation day is tomorrow. Hope the rain doesn't slow them down. Today was another day of huge activity. Almost seems like they are on some sort of time crunch for some reason.

[Tito714]

yeah the bus stop looks real cool on central and I think pedestrians are allowed on central now. And they have done some good work on first street.

[gymratmanaz]

Yes, pedestrians are allowed on the East side of Central.

I think I saw some new steal support trusses. Maybe they are starting to get some supplies with regard to the new permit HX posted.

On the PSP side, there were a good dozen big refrigerator size pieces of white foam. What is that used for? I remember seeing that kind of thing when they filled the planter wholes and covered them with cement. Any ideas what these are for? They are stacked on the SW corner of the PSP block.

Tons of drywall was put up on the Lucky Strike and CVS. They also set up a street crane to lift more drywall up on the roof.

Escalators tomorrow!!!

[Vicelord John]

I wanna know whats up with the ground in cvs cause that shit is as level as a ski slope.

[gymratmanaz]

HX and I had talked about that too. I wonder if those styrofoam blocks are there to do the same thing as when they filled the tree holes and then cemented over them? Are they going to cut the foam and then lay cement on top to level things out? They have to float some sort of floor to make it flat.

[Leo the Dog]

On the PSP block along Washington St. I noticed that the old PSP red bricked stairwells have been incorporated into the new structure. Are these to remain, or are they going to take them down in the future?

[gymratmanaz]

Red bricked stairwells? Do you mean elevators?

[Vicelord John]

elevator/stairwell housing I think he is referring to.

Gymrat, have you ever looked? Those aren't just elevators. There are stairwells in there too.

[gymratmanaz]

Yes, since he didn't mention the elevators, I thought maybe he was talking about some stair wells I didn't know of.

They appear to be keeping the elevators, just entombing them in the new buildings. Makes sense. They ain't broke, so why replace 'em!.... Though, that means there are no elevators to the 2nd floor. What about the physically impaired???

[renone]

Yes, since he didn't mention the elevators, I thought maybe he was talking about some stair wells I didn't know of.

They appear to be keeping the elevators, just entombing them in the new buildings. Makes sense. They ain't broke, so why replace 'em!.... Though, that means there are no elevators to the 2nd floor. What about the physically impaired???

That can't be right. Cityscape tenants are being told that their employees who park under PSP (as opposed to under Cityscape) can take an elevator from the underground parking to the covered walkway and then walk over to Cityscape. I gues the parking under Cityscape is more expensive than the parking under PSP, so several of the law firms are having the attorneys park under Cityscape and the employees park under PSP.

You make a good point above, they have to have elevators go up to the second level for the physically impaired. The current PSP elevators are TERRIBLE so I really hope they replace them.

[gymratmanaz]

Well, they could take the elevator from the parking level up to the first level and then take the excalator up to the bridge and over.....that still does not answer for those in wheelchairs and such. Can they convert an elevator that goes only from below parking to the first floor and extend it up to the second? In other words, bust the cieling out and make adjustments to go one more floor up? I am not even sure there is a hole in the structure to go from the ground floor to the second story.

Anyone????????????????????

[plinko]

By code, there either has to be an elevator or an exterior 'area of refuge'. For a project of this size, I doubt the fire department would allow an area of refuge. There will be an elevator somewhere. Escalators don't meet ADA egress requirements in any way.

That being said, retrofitting an existing elevator shaft CAN be done for that short of a run. Most of those elevators are holeless hydraulics. If the building was much taller though, quite a bit more difficult.

[Leo the Dog]

It'll be interesting to see what happens with the elevators. I don't think the new structure is designed with the elevators in mind in the current location. I'll have to take a closer look one of these days.

[HX_Guy]

I think they are referring to Phase II as the retail on Patriot's Square...what do you guys think?

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20091222/NEWS/912229955/1062/RSS

Developers of Eagle River Station offered this breakdown of loans it secured in 2009

January
Amount: $192 million
Location: CityScape, Phoenix, Ariz.
Project: Phase one — 550,000 square feet of office space and 55,000 square feet of retail

December
Amount: $40 million
Location: CityScape, Phoenix, Ariz.
Project: Phase two — Mid-rise with 150,000 square feet of retail

[Vicelord John]

thats a small drop in the bucket compared to the 900 million in private dollars we were promised a few years ago.

:(

[dtnphx]

I think they are referring to Phase II as the retail on Patriot's Square...what do you guys think?

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20091222/NEWS/912229955/1062/RSS

Wow, hmm. The word Midrise leads me to believe that that its for funding of the retail and the hotel. If it were just the retail portion, I doubt they would have used the word midrise. Makes me think that whatever plan of adding either apartments or more office over the hotel is kaput. :shrug:

[gymratmanaz]

I talked to a Hunt superviser, and not that he knows anything more than we do, but he said without anyone confirming anything, RED seems to be saying all should go ahead with 10 stories hotel and ten of office. He said there is no one to confirm this, but everyone he talks to said it looks like it will go forward.
WHY CAN'T WE GET SOMEONE TO SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN???? Come on Santa!!!

[PHX31]

Isn't Tower 1 being filled rather nicely? It seems like they should go ahead with more office.

[gymratmanaz]

I went and checked on the styrofoam. They are using it to level the floors. They have retaining walls inside the buildings that are up to 4 cinder blocks tall. They taper as the curve levels. The blocks are being added whole or carved to fit. The workmen are walking on them. They are really light and really strong. It looks like they will then use rebar to connect to the rebar sticking up for the retaining walls. Then they will float the cement floors. It seems to be a brilliant way to float a floor without needed tons of steel supports. With the building being abover a parking garage, I am sure there are load limits from above. This way, they use foam to support and use as molds, instead of tons of rebar, steel, and plywood.

I would not be surprised to see them start to flaot the floors within a week, depending on how the holidays fit into their work schedules.

I am guessing that they will put a set of steps for the entrance on the south west corner of the CVS, and the access ramp (or ground level) entrance will be from the inside of the courtyard.

The drywall is now complete on the south side of the block.

There must be at least 6 major heavy equipment pieces on 1st Street. It is about halfway removed.

[gymratmanaz]

Where did 1st Street go? :)

Gentlemen, it is gone already, just dirt and not even sidewalks.

Line those streets with trees like on Central please!!!!!!!!!

[reguyphx]

The office tower has been relatively successful leasing, but with a downtown office vacancy rate around 20%, it is highly unlikely anybody will be building any additional office space downtown in the foreseeable future. Tower 1 is about 60% leased, but all of the tenants have come from other CBD buildings. Unfortunately in this economy the pool of tenants willing to pay rents in the mid $30's is very limited. Rental rates will likely decline by 15-25% over the next year or so and that will greatly hinder the ability for anyone to underwrite a new office building.

[gymratmanaz]

I heard the tower was over 80% filled. HX also told me that RED is about to announce two other new tennants....just not sure if that is for the tower or PSP side or what, but 2 new ones are coming and signed leases.

[HX_Guy]

The office tower has been relatively successful leasing, but with a downtown office vacancy rate around 20%, it is highly unlikely anybody will be building any additional office space downtown in the foreseeable future. Tower 1 is about 60% leased, but all of the tenants have come from other CBD buildings. Unfortunately in this economy the pool of tenants willing to pay rents in the mid $30's is very limited. Rental rates will likely decline by 15-25% over the next year or so and that will greatly hinder the ability for anyone to underwrite a new office building.

reguyphx: Does that mean that there are no longer plans for office above the hotel in the south tower? What have you heard about the south tower? You seem to be in the know.

[HooverDam]

I'm not going to post the whole article but the Sunflower grocery chain is planning to grow (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/2009/12/24/20091224biz-sunflower1225.html) in Phoenix. The article mentions a yet to be specified Central Phoenix location, I wonder if that means CityScape? Id be very happy with Sunflower as a replacement to AJs.

[reguyphx]

I don't know anything specific about office above hotel at CityScape, but generally what they are trying to accomplish is very difficult. Virtually no financing is available for any development in Phoenix, especialy high end office space. I'm sure if you ask RED they will say its a go, but I have a feeling that is more marketing and wishful thinking. They also exaggerate the percentage leased, lets add it up Squire 80K, Gust 40K, Ballard 40K, Polsinelli 45K, Jennings 55K, Fidelity 4K, and RED probably 10K (at the most), golds 20K (I think) - thats 290K out of 550K. I think they have an executive suite operator that might be going in, but still a long ways from stabilized.

[DownhomeDenver]

came home and saw this, bitches.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/haulasshyena/DSC_0454.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/haulasshyena/DSC_0455.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/haulasshyena/DSC_0456.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/haulasshyena/DSC_0457.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/haulasshyena/DSC_0458.jpg

Must be nice to have a tower that lights up at night. Denver developers are all scared of adding any tower lighting to our crappy buildings. :(

[gymratmanaz]

Wait till it wraps around the whole halo. A Hunt supervisor told me they might have it all lit sometime in the first week of January. That will be awesome!!!!!

[gymratmanaz]

1) They have mudded or stuccoed the south side of PSP part. Looks cool.

2) Floated foam floors are almost all installed in PSP side(CVS and grocery)

3) Hunt guy said things are moving along for the California gracery store(name escapes me)

4) Work is going on in the elevator core !!!!!!!!! About 6 workmen inside it adding door frames and support steel.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HooverDam]

3) Hunt guy said things are moving along for the California gracery store(name escapes me)


Oakville Grocery? Lame. If its anything like their other location in Scottsdale that thing is NOT a grocery store. Its about the same size as the Phx Urban Market from the looks of it on the outside and they only offer a very limited supply of over priced staples. It seems to mostly be a wine place, with some sandwiches and stuff for lunch. Now if this place is planning on taking up the entire AJs space I suppose that it may be different, but I'm bracing for disappointment. Id much rather have a Wild Oats/Whole Foods/Sunflower/Fresh & Easy or just about anything really.

[Vicelord John]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/haulasshyena/DSC_1601.jpg

[PartyLine]

I didn't know they were building new highrises in DT Phoenix :). Looks like a nice project

[Vicelord John]

the lights have been off the past couple of nights... I hope it is because they are hooking up the rest of them!

[gymratmanaz]

That's what one of the main Hunt guys said...that they will be turning the whole halo on sometime in the first week in January.

[HX_Guy]

The Gold's Gym corner came out really well I think...

http://www.nitnelav.com/DTJan032010/1.jpg

Floor of the retail on Patriot's Square is raised around 4' in some places...it will have quite a few stairs...

http://www.nitnelav.com/DTJan032010/2.jpg

[gymratmanaz]

I forgot to mention, my Hunt contact told me there was going to be a restaurant in the first tower. I have never heard of this place, but it is a small chain called something like "Kilt and Tilt" , some sort of "Hooters" type place where the waitresses dress like naughty school girls, A La Brittanie Spears in her Oops I Did It Again video. Anyone ever hear of the place????

[Tempe_Duck]

I forgot to mention, my Hunt contact told me there was going to be a restaurant in the first tower. I have never heard of this place, but it is a small chain called something like "Kilt and Tilt" , some sort of "Hooters" type place where the waitresses dress like naughty school girls, A La Brittanie Spears in her Oops I Did It Again video. Anyone ever hear of the place????

I think you are taking about Tilted Kilt. They have a couple locations in town. It is a Scottish theme. They dress in kilts.

[Vicelord John]

I forgot to mention, my Hunt contact told me there was going to be a restaurant in the first tower. I have never heard of this place, but it is a small chain called something like "Kilt and Tilt" , some sort of "Hooters" type place where the waitresses dress like naughty school girls, A La Brittanie Spears in her Oops I Did It Again video. Anyone ever hear of the place????

DROOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

I <3 Tilted Kilt waitresses.

[gymratmanaz]

That's the name of the place. Sounds like it is a good idea in Cityscape??? Destination type place?

[Vicelord John]

not really a destination type place, just a local chain.

What CityScape is doing, is bringing in businesses that primarily attract to business-class tourists. Lucky Strike, Tilted Kilt, etc. My bet is that most of these businesses will be open shorter hours during the summer than they are during convention season.

I welcome this type of development because I feel that these types of services are the ones that will not only feed the hotels, but also draw more residents. It will start the snowball process of people moving in and things going on. It would however, not be ideal if it turned out ot be like Michigan Avenue in Chicago. Ever go there at night durning low tourist season? It's exactly the same as downtown Phoenix is right now.

[gymratmanaz]

Too higbrow. I agree. There needs to be places the tourists and locals go. Our Michigan Avenue is in Scottsdale. DT Phoenix needs what it is getting, so I agree with you Vicelord. Good for businessmen, tourists, and locals....good for Phoenix!!!

[Vicelord John]

Too higbrow. I agree. There needs to be places the tourists and locals go. Our Michigan Avenue is in Scottsdale. DT Phoenix needs what it is getting, so I agree with you Vicelord. Good for businessmen, tourists, and locals....good for Phoenix!!!

I don't think you do agree with me. What I was trying to convey is that Michigan Avenue is DEAD in the wintertime. I am in Chicago a lot (understatement) and know the city well. Locals do not go to Michigan Avenue except women to shop or to woo clients and tourists. In the wintertime when tourism is gone, that whole area is dead.... the loop is just downright scary. I remember one night walking home from the bars we didn't see a soul (except for bums) all the way from Michigan/Chicago to State/Monroe. It's about a mile walk... Even Phoenix in the Summer you see more people than that.

I was not trying to indicate that these places are too highbrow. They are sterile chains, and that what attracts most people... they are chains for a reason, remember that. The problem is that without residents to mix in with the inevitable tourists, these places are never going to be open past 10PM anyway.

[gymratmanaz]

nope. we agreed.

[Leo the Dog]

Tilted Kilt is an overpriced Hooters.

I always thought that a Zipps downtown would make a killing. They have a great happy hour and would snag a bunch of DT workers at 5pm and game day/nights, forget about it.

[phoenixboi08]

There's a place in San Antonio, on the Riverwalk, called Dick's. It's essentially the same thing...with an even more appropriate name I guess. I'd like to meet the people who come up with this stuff...

[HooverDam]

There's a place in San Antonio, on the Riverwalk, called Dick's. It's essentially the same thing...with an even more appropriate name I guess. I'd like to meet the people who come up with this stuff...

Wait...Dicks? So is it half naked waiters instead of waitresses? Is it like hot wings + costumes by Don B?

[Vicelord John]

Great now i got THAT picture in my head.

[combusean]

^ And may it never leave. :D

[Don B.]

^ LOL at last three posts. :)

There's one in San Diego as well:

http://www.dickslastresort.com/domains/sandiego/

--don

[Locofresh55]

I think Phoenix could benefit from a place like Dick's but I doubt they would want to put that somewhere downtown. Some of the businessmen might get offended. Usually the staff at Dicks is rude and obnoxious but it's all part of the gimmick. I loved it when I went to San Antonio and was talking shyt back and forth with the waiter that we had and it was nonstop. We almost got kicked out for throwing straws at the waiters. But forunately no one had booty-booty shorts that Don B would rock prolly.

[PartyLine]

We have a Tilted Kilt here in Austin I think their a franchise we also have these two places that are about the same. Haven't made it to them yet just Tilted Kilt

http://www.twinpeaksrestaurant.com/

http://www.bikinissportsbarandgrill.com/intro.php

[HooverDam]

This reminds me, I had the idea for a bar like this but for gays/women with half naked dude waiters. I would either call it "The Cock Pit" and have it be aviation themed or "The Man Hole" and have it be construction themed. Surely this will make me a millionaire.

We have a Tilted Kilt here in Austin I think their a franchise we also have these two places that are about the same. Haven't made it to them yet just Tilted Kilt

http://www.twinpeaksrestaurant.com/

http://www.bikinissportsbarandgrill.com/intro.php

Id like to see a center with both of those, a Dicks, Tilted Kilt, Hooters and "The Library" all in one area. Really just give visiting businessmen heart attacks.

[PartyLine]

I've been to the Hooters in Arizona Center but it's been a few years since i've been to Phoenix from what I remember it's a good sized Hooters I liked it better than the Hooters on Bell Road.

[glynnjamin]

There are no good sized hooters in there now. :haha:

[HooverDam]

There are no good sized hooters in there now. :haha:

Oh snap! Thats ok by me though. I remember going in there once (a rare thing since I dont care for the food) and my waitress had like DD's at least, but the rest of her was big too. Plus these things were so big and stretched out, you could see veins. It looks like a topographic map of the Mississippi river delta- yeck.

[PartyLine]

Did they close it? cause it's still listed on the Hooters website

[Vicelord John]

Did they close it? cause it's still listed on the Hooters website

Hahahha omg you dont get it.

[mwadswor]

This reminds me, I had the idea for a bar like this but for gays/women with half naked dude waiters. I would either call it "The Cock Pit" and have it be aviation themed or "The Man Hole" and have it be construction themed. Surely this will make me a millionaire.



Id like to see a center with both of those, a Dicks, Tilted Kilt, Hooters and "The Library" all in one area. Really just give visiting businessmen heart attacks.

Speaking of heart attacks, you can't forget the heart attack grill :D

[PartyLine]

Hahahha omg you dont get it.


Yeah now I do lol funny:haha:

[bwonger06]

I've been to the Hooters in Arizona Center but it's been a few years since i've been to Phoenix from what I remember it's a good sized Hooters I liked it better than the Hooters on Bell Road.

Not even the best Hooters in the valley... that title goes to the one on Mill.

[Leo the Dog]

Plus these things were so big and stretched out, you could see veins. It looks like a topographic map of the Mississippi river delta- yeck.

Now this was funny :haha: . What a great description!

[Vicelord John]

Not even the best Hooters in the valley... that title goes to the one on Mill.

Being the best hooters in town is like being the best manure farm in town.

[bwonger06]

Being the best hooters in town is like being the best manure farm in town.

True that. But would your rather have the organic manure or the manure next to the city swamp :jester:

[gymratmanaz]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

[phoenixboi08]

Wait...Dicks? So is it half naked waiters instead of waitresses? Is it like hot wings + costumes by Don B?

LOl! No, they're waitresses. Although, waiters would actually not be such a bad idea! :D

[gymratmanaz]

The have started to drywall the west side of PSP. Also, they moved the cement molds near the pedestrian walkway columns. They must be getting ready to pour them. There are lots of added wall studs, framing in the buildings.....

The first column on the mesa has been poured and the mold removed. It looks to be there for starting to add the second floor when they get tower #2 up to that. There are lots of cinder blocks up there too for something.

[PHX NATIVE 929]

RED Development is pleased to announce the addition of "Stand-up Live" as the newest entertainment venue to join the line-up at CityScape in Downtown Phoenix.

About "Stand-up Live"
o Live stand-up comedy theater and supper club
o Largest venue of its kind in the country with 600+ seats in state-of-the-art theater
o 17,000 square feet next to Lucky Strike Lanes & Lounge, located above the urban grocery, along Jefferson Street
o Venue to also include a live entertainment lounge/bar and studio for national TV show and video production
o Owned and operated in partnership with Dan Mer, founder and former co-owner of the Tempe Improv( This team was behind NBC's Last Comic Standing, several Seinfeld and David Spade HBO shows as well as several other highly acclaimed shows on Comedy Channel, Showtime and ABC). This team is regarded as the best promoters/producers in the industry.
o "Stand-up Live" to open in 2010 at CityScape in downtown Phoenix.
o More information will be released as design plans and opening information is finalized. Major press event, release being planned.

[HX_Guy]

Holy shit that fucking rocks!

Where did the info come from?

[HooverDam]

RED Development is pleased to announce the addition of "Stand-up Live" as the newest entertainment venue to join the line-up at CityScape in Downtown Phoenix.

About "Stand-up Live"
o Live stand-up comedy theater and supper club
o Largest venue of its kind in the country with 600+ seats in state-of-the-art theater
o 17,000 square feet next to Lucky Strike Lanes & Lounge, located above the urban grocery, along Jefferson Street
o Venue to also include a live entertainment lounge/bar and studio for national TV show and video production
o Owned and operated in partnership with Dan Mer, founder and former co-owner of the Tempe Improv( This team was behind NBC's Last Comic Standing, several Seinfeld and David Spade HBO shows as well as several other highly acclaimed shows on Comedy Channel, Showtime and ABC). This team is regarded as the best promoters/producers in the industry.
o "Stand-up Live" to open in 2010 at CityScape in downtown Phoenix.
o More information will be released as design plans and opening information is finalized. Major press event, release being planned.

....source?

[HX_Guy]

I'd like to know too...I tried to find it on Google and no luck.

What an awesome idea though...destination type places is exactly what downtown needs, so when someone asks "Why would I go to downtown"...there are reasons...Lucky Strike...now this.

I have to wonder though...600 seats seems like a lot and it's not on two stories so it won't be theatre type seating I assume. I'm curious to see renderings of how this place will look inside.

[HooverDam]

I have to wonder though...600 seats seems like a lot and it's not on two stories so it won't be theatre type seating I assume. I'm curious to see renderings of how this place will look inside.

Most comedy clubs don't have theater style seating. Its usually a flat floor with round tables & 4 people or so sit at each one.

If true, it is interesting that the club has 600 sits, from everything I can find online the Tempe Improvs capacity is about 420. That could potentially mean when bigger acts come to town they'd be playing this downtown club instead of at the Improv, could be very interesting and good for downtown.

Also "Stand Up Live!" is a really terrible name it sounds like a sentence not a place but I guess its better than "Rooster T Feathers" or "Yuck Yucks."