[Illithid Dude]

But Houston already has two ~1000 footers in the CBD, why would they need to go so far out to build a shorter tower?



No it doesn't. Just one.

[SoaringSkylines]

I live at 900 Key Biscayne, which is just a few blocks down from where this massive proposal will hopefully take place! So I'll definitely be all over supplying you guys with pictures!

[Stained]

No it doesn't. Just one.
He said ~1000, which means he was counting Wells Fargo Bank Plaza at 992.

[mthd]

I have seen simple buildings that are better than this. Examples include the original World Trade Center Twin Towers, and the Sears/Willis Tower. I didn't say that this building should have a more complex design anyway. I am saying that even a simple building like this one can have a better design.

... but you can't judge the quality of any design, let alone a very simple one, from a single rendering. this could be a great tower, or it could be an average one. the details of the top, the quality and articulation of the curtain wall, the way it engages the city at the ground, etc, all remain to be seen.

there is nothing wrong with this proposal at a fundamental level, e.g. proportion, form, etc.

[Zapatan]

Really? I think this building will be the best thing to happen to Miami in a looong time, it's quite good looking.

[THE BIG APPLE]

^ Any building taller than the tallest is called the 'best thing to ever happen' (except 432 Park Ave).

[N830MH]

I live at 900 Key Biscayne, which is just a few blocks down from where this massive proposal will hopefully take place! So I'll definitely be all over supplying you guys with pictures!

Good! I am looking forward to it. Let me know if you hear anything more new info.

You can allowed to taking the picture to see how is construction doing.

[Zapatan]

No it doesn't. Just one.


The "~" in front of the 1000 means approximately, 992 feet is a supertall and approx. 1000 feet tall.

[bobdreamz]

Miami’s One Bayfront Plaza expected to be finished in 2018

Developer Tibor Hollo is waiting for existing leases to expire in 2014 before demolishing a downtown Miami building on the site where he plans the tallest tower south of Atlanta.

Construction on the 80-story One Bayfront Plaza, which would rise 1,010 feet, could be completed by the first quarter of 2018. The site is at 100 S. Biscayne Blvd, where Vitas Healthcare is currently headquartered.

Hollo plans to develop 4.2 million square feet of space that will include 700 luxury residences; 200,000 square feet of retail; 650,000 square feet of offices; a four-star, 500-room hotel; a five-star, 120-room hotel.

http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/print-edition/2012/04/13/miamis-one-bayfront-plaza-expected.html

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This project keeps getting pushed back but at least we know the reasons why now. Developer Tibor Hollo has owned the 14 story building that currently exists on the site for years & has over 50 years expirence building highrises and other projects in the Miami area.
Two more years until the start of construction and I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

[Zapatan]

That's a long wait, not too long but a couple years before constructions starts, I wonder if the growing market and economy can bring about something even taller (If height negotiations are made of course)

[jd3189]

:previous: Miami needs to grow gradually, like every other Western city. Not all the Asian cities are guaranteed financial success if they build skyscrapers with small demand.

I found a rendering model of the building in Sketch Up and decided to show how it would be seen in different parts of the city.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7804686882_6d6e8985e1_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8308/7804685612_eb0d6f88c6_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8448/7804685718_06b821f8e0_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/7804685812_62df9e6d7a_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8442/7804685858_57a5c94695_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8295/7804685962_4658eaf902_b.jpg

[bobdreamz]

^ Cool renderings but I prefer the old design which had a somewhat of a pointy curved top.

[HuBu]

Does this building still have the belly on the other side? It seems like to cut the antenna off and simplified it.

[skyscraperfan23]

Miami here we come with this big one.

[skyscraperfan23]

The FAA could destroy this one as well.

Screw the FAA

[aquablue]

The FAA could destroy this one as well.

Screw the FAA

Silly. It is rather, screw the idiots who decided to put Miami airport in such a position or not move it years ago. Great foresight there, lol.

[Dale]

Silly. It is rather, screw the idiots who decided to put Miami airport in such a position or not move it years ago. Great foresight there, lol.

It's not either-or. It's both-and. Screw both.

[QuantumX]

^ Cool renderings but I prefer the old design which had a somewhat of a pointy curved top.

From these renderings, the building looks pretty boring. The old design was a lot better than these renderings. I don't know where Miami Today News is getting this business about new height restrictions. We just had a legal battle not long ago to get 1,010 feet in parts of the CBD and Brickell.

[jd3189]

Silly. It is rather, screw the idiots who decided to put Miami airport in such a position or not move it years ago. Great foresight there, lol.

Hopefully that can change. They would move the flight paths going over downtown away. During this time, the Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach airports can take in the extra routes. Would be a perfect time of improving transportation for the whole South Florida Area.

[aquablue]

Hopefully that can change. They would move the flight paths going over downtown away. During this time, the Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach airports can take in the extra routes. Would be a perfect time of improving transportation for the whole South Florida Area.

No, the airport is there to stay with all the billions being put into it. :???: I can't believe you suggested that the airport could move, very odd. There is nowhere to move it, and they would be wasting billions if they closed it. The planners of the past had no vision sadly. Airport planning has often been shortsighted in many cities.

[aquablue]

From these renderings, the building looks pretty boring. The old design was a lot better than these renderings. I don't know where Miami Today News is getting this business about new height restrictions. We just had a legal battle not long ago to get 1,010 feet in parts of the CBD and Brickell.

They must be on to something, perhaps the FAA have changed their thinking on safety:???:

[jd3189]

No, the airport is there to stay with all the billions being put into it. :???: I can't believe you suggested that the airport could move, very odd. There is nowhere to move it, and they would be wasting billions if they closed it. The planners of the past had no vision sadly. Airport planning has often been shortsighted in many cities.

Not move the airport, move the flight paths away from going over the downtown area so the FAA doesn't put height limits upon it.

[ThatOneGuy]

That design is awesome

[QuantumX]

That design is awesome

I'm glad you think so. Maybe I'm just hung up on the previous design.

[QuantumX]

They must be on to something, perhaps the FAA have changed their thinking on safety:???:

This was a serious legal battle and the city was able to get 1,010 feet out of the FAA. They can't just change their minds like that. Something is not right about that Miami Today News story.

[skyscraperfan23]

This was a serious legal battle and the city was able to get 1,010 feet out of the FAA. They can't just change their minds like that. Something is not right about that Miami Today News story.

I Know that's right.

[Dale]

Well, maybe the FAA could be tied-up until this wave of construction gets underway.

[N830MH]

Is FAA has already received approved yet? When it will start? When they will start construction?

[Dale]

Is FAA has already received approved yet? When it will start? When they will start construction?

2015 last I heard.

[N830MH]

2015 last I heard.

Right, let's wait and see. We'll find out soon enough. Try to be more patiently. Give a time.

[MrDreTheOne]

http://therealdeal.com/miami/blog/2013/04/18/planned-panorama-would-be-miamis-tallest-tower/

Planned Panorama would be Miami’s tallest tower

Mixed-use project by Tibor Hollo to begin marketing next year

by Sanna Chu (Miami Today)
April 18, 2013 04:00PM

A veteran Miami developer is planning to build a tower to tower above the rest. Tibor Hollo’s Panorama, which would go up at 1101 Brickell Avenue, would be Miami’s and Florida’s tallest building, Miami Today reported.

Panorama would rise 830 feet, with construction to be complete by 2016. The 85-story structure would have 941 rental apartments, 300,000 square feet of office space and 100,000 square feet of ground-level retail, according to Miami Today.

Construction at the site began last year and Hollo plans to start marketing in summer 2014, Miami Today said.

By a height of 41 feet, Panorama would dwarf the nearby Four Seasons Hotel & Tower at 1435 Brickell Avenue, which, at 789 feet, has been Miami’s and Florida’s tallest building for the past decade.

Hollo is also planning Miami’s first “super-tall” tower at 1,010 feet, the paper reported. One Bayfront Plaza has been in the works at 100 South Biscayne Boulevard for years, but construction has not yet begun. Hollo said he would re-focus on that project — and was confident it could go forward — after the Panorama project is complete.

I guess we will have to wait for the new tallest before we get our super tall :shrug:

[jd3189]

Bump. Any new developments?