[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

WOW!!!! 90 degrees on the fourth of July!!! That's hot. But I want 80's and 90's with storms.

Moos you are the weather god :worship:

[moosanova]

Heads up to those of you who are interested.

Radar is indicating some very heavy showers moving up from the south sound at around 25-30 mph and there are some T-storms imbedded within this heavy rain band.

Be prepared for some serious downpours, gusty winds, brief hail, and possibly some lightning.

NWS may issue a SWS ( severe weather statement ) soon as this band is intensifying and moving north into the I-5 corridor.

[pwright1]

:previous: Thank goodness. We need some rain around here. Everything in my yard is dry as a bone.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

-did they ever post a severe t-storm warning? I was gone.:( And what happened to the t-Storm band?

[moosanova]

No SWS was ever issued, the main band fell apart before it reached seattle, but don't worry, our chances for T-storms goes up tomorrow, ( friday ) to at least 60%

Tomorrow is looking better anyways as the showers will be more intermittent and allow alot more sunshine to break through allowing extended ground warming to occur.

So keep your eyes peeled, tomorrow could be an interesting day Kids!!!!

[moosanova]

Notice: I will now start posting daily forecasts for the seattle metro area beginning on monday July 2nd for those of you who are interested.

Now on to some interesting developments occuring today ( June 29th )

1. Latest Models are showing a well defined shortwave starting to move onshore this morning and will start to impact the Metro area around 1-2 pm.

This shortwave is associated with the upper level low that is still spinning off our coast and was the culprit for our showers yesterday and will be the main driving force behind today's LIKELY T-Storm activity.

Instability associated with the shortwave is very sufficient and the dynamic support ahead of the shortwave will be strong.

This basically means that the air mass currently over us is strong and is prime to support Thunderstorms today.

2. As i said in an earlier post about the coming 4th of July holiday and beyond being warm to hot, well that point is still valid but with one major tweak.

It now appears likely that the Thermal Low that is set to move north along the west coast and set up shop will do sooner and faster than first thought.

I had forecasted temps only being in the low to mid 80's on Wednesday and Thursday, Now i am fairly certain that beginning on Monday we will see temps. start to soar upwards and beyond.

My new forecasted temps are as follows

Monday Upper 70's to Low 80's
Tuesday Mid to Upper 80's
Wednesday ( 4th of July ) Upper 80's to Low to Mid 90's
Some areas outside of the immediate metro area could push close to 100 on Wednesday
Thursday appears to be the Hottest so far this year with temps as follows......Mid 90's to close to 100F

Friday onward temps dip a bit but only into the Mid to Upper 80's for most if not all of Western Washington.

Hope you guys are ready for some real summer weather, because it's about to drop in and stay around for awhile.

Enjoy ! ! !

[James Bond Agent 007]

It now appears likely that the Thermal Low that is set to move north along the west coast and set up shop will do sooner and faster than first thought.

I had forecasted temps only being in the low to mid 80's on Wednesday and Thursday, Now i am fairly certain that beginning on Monday we will see temps. start to soar upwards and beyond.

My new forecasted temps are as follows

Monday Upper 70's to Low 80's
Tuesday Mid to Upper 80's
Wednesday ( 4th of July ) Upper 80's to Low to Mid 90's
Some areas outside of the immediate metro area could push close to 100 on Wednesday
Thursday appears to be the Hottest so far this year with temps as follows......Mid 90's to close to 100F

Friday onward temps dip a bit but only into the Mid to Upper 80's for most if not all of Western Washington.

Hope you guys are ready for some real summer weather, because it's about to drop in and stay around for awhile.

Enjoy ! ! !
Now I *really* want snow. :(

I can't wait until October.

BTW, in 2 weeks I'm going to my sister's wedding in North Carolina. I haven't been back east *in the summer* since I left NC in 1988 (though I've been there many times around Christmas). It'll be interesting to see how the heat AND humidity feels after not having experienced it in 19 years!

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^

Bond, who says we are going to get snow in October? You might have to wait a little longer. :(

[James Bond Agent 007]

^
No, my statement about snow had nothing to do with my statement about October. Sorry if they appeared that way.

I just want it to get cooler.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

Ohh, my mistake

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

It just got real cloudy fast and now the wind is picking up here in Seattle.

[JiminyCricket II]

for the tri-cities, says 107 on weather.com for thursday... a balmy 101 for the forth.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

-That doesn't sound good. I would runaway :runaway:

[moosanova]

I have to make a revision as the coming holiday and beyond is now looking not nearly as hot here on the west side of the state.

I had posted that temps strting on Tuesday would be in the upper 80's to low 90's.

Well now i have to back off that as the models are indicating some slight cooling in advance of the Thermal low thus holding our temps back to the low to mid 80's on tuesday, and wednesday.

But then we do get close to 90 on thursday and friday as the thermal low basically parks itself over us.

The reason we won't get very hot is because of the High Pressure east of us is slightly weakening and thus won't generate the strong downsloping winds from eastern washington to our area thus increasing our temps like it normally does.

Nonetheless though we will be warm and VERY SUNNY starting tomorrow and through at least the next 2 weeks.

Temps will be steady between the upper 70's to mid 80's after this little bout with some heat.

Be happy though as humidity levels will be low through the extended period.

[MarkDaMan]

no offense moosanova, you seem like a nice guy, but why are you posting Seattle's forecast? I mean, I know these pages find themselves waaay off topic, but the weather is a fairly easy thing to find on several pages like http://www.king5.com/weather/index.html or http://www.komotv.com/weather and even if you are in a Portland mood you have http://www.kgw.com/weather/?tn. Not to be a smart ass or anything, but this thread has been fun to read about peoples usually humorous takes on the weather, but what's with the Seattle report?

[moosanova]

No offense to you Mark, But people other than you actually like to read what i have to write, but if it pleases you then i will stop posting any weather related topics of any sort as i know some people just can't tolerate it.

By the way, you're the only one to complain about my forecasting.

And yes there are other resources for weather in the seattle, but when people actually look forward to what i have to write about the weather that should indicate to you that you are the minority in the matter unless others come forward with the same issue in which case i will gladly stop.

Like i said no offense to you or your opinion, but one voice of opposition is more than likely not going to affect this issue you may have with me.

Side note: this is the first time in a long time that i have seen a post from you in this particualr thread.

[MarkDaMan]

^okay, seems you took that waaay to personally. I just thought posting detailed weather information in a blog about skyscrapers was a bit odd, but whatever floats you boat...and I certainly don't want to end a 'public service' you have been providing other Seattle peeps, since the network news weather seems to be hardly accurate...especially trying to distinguish between partly cloudy and mostly sunny...but whatever, wasn't puttin you down.

Side note: I've posted close to 4000 posts and have read considerably more threads than that, just cause I don't post doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the banter.

[SEA-TOWN]

^This thread is not skyscraper related anyway and has been around for over 7 months. What moosanova is posted IS relevant to this thread. I personally enjoy reading moosanova's forecasts.

[SEA-TOWN]

double post...

[moosanova]

Hey Mark, just one more thing and then i'll move on.

The topic of this thread is................

THE NORTHWEST "" WEATHER "" THREAD............

Have a nice day Bud.

[MarkDaMan]

Fair enough, but if I posted a thread called 'the northwest river level thread' it still wouldn't have anything to do with buildings, cityscape, or urban design...and as I said before, there are a lot of things I have posted, or read, that doesn't have to do directly about buildings. But this Notice: I will now start posting daily forecasts for the seattle metro area beginning on monday July 2nd for those of you who are interested.

caught my eye as something that could potentially overwhelm the half hearted comments left occasionally from people belly aching about the weather, which is actually quite humorous. But whatever...like I said, I'm not perse against anything you are doing, but your posts will turn this into the Seattle weather thread as opposed to a NW weather thread which in turns, kinda seems like a hijacking of the thread.

If you are really interested in tracking the weather daily, I think a personal blog or journal would more appropriately fit the hobby you are interested in. But, whatever, I'll just move onto the next thread, I couldn't actually give a shit less.

[moosanova]

Ok, can we agree to disagree? Good.

But i must add my two cents here.

Yes this thread is called The Northwest Weather Thread, and Yes Seattle is part of the Northwest, how does that whole or in part constitute me hijacking this particular thread???

And if someone from portland asked me in this thread to forecast for their area, would that also constitute a hijacking????

Seems to me you have a hidden agenda here Dude!!!!!

I'm leaving it at that, and i'm sure there are a lot of members who will agree with me.

And furthermore i am a certified meteorologist and if people ask me weather related questions in a weather thread that by god i am going to participate as i am not violating any terms as far as the site TOS goes, and if i were don't you think the Mod's would have done something by now.

and here's another thing, there are other sections on this site where you can post pics of cities in which no building is visible or other threads where people don't talk about buildings at all, so i ask this, what bug crawled up your butt this morning and why did you feel it necessary to throw me under the bus????

[MarkDaMan]

^like I said you are taking this waaay to personal. Truthfully...well, never mind, here is where I exercise judgement and hold my opinion.

Go ahead post away...I don't care...not enough to keep arguing about it...

[moosanova]

Works for me man, but your obviously missing the lesson here.

Have a nice day.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

-I VERY much appreciate Moosanova's forecasts, opinions, and other facts about the weather. He is very insightful and knowledgeable about this topic. And since we are talking about weather and interested in it,and since this is a Weather Thread, Mark, I would just let this one go.

-BTW, Mark if your so concerned with this thread being hijacked maybe you should post some stuff about the Portland weather????

[MarkDaMan]

my life is much more important than learning 'lessons' from a weather thread on a blog about skyscrapers...and I'm glad Moosanova is providing a service to the Seattle peeps, and that they appreciate him.

I was feeling a bit like a prick this morning so my delivery came across wrong. I apologize to Moosanova and all other Seattlites who have been looking forward to his daily weather reports.

I myself am going to go back to digging through the Bureau of Development Services website to see if any new building proposals have popped up...Have fun with your weather report guys, I'll hold all future comments about it to myself...

[moosanova]

Thank you, we appreciate it.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

Back to the Weather........ There is a Severe Weather Alert for Washington, for Elevated fire Danger. Just like Moos forecasted.

From the Weather Channel:
Special Weather Statement


SAN JUAN COUNTY-WESTERN WHATCOM COUNTY- SOUTHWEST INTERIOR- EAST PUGET SOUND LOWLANDS-WESTERN SKAGIT COUNTY-EVERETT AND VICINITY- SEATTLE/BREMERTON AREA- TACOMA AREA-ADMIRALTY INLET AREA- HOOD CANAL AREA-LOWER CHEHALIS VALLEY AREA- OLYMPICS- EASTERN STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA-WESTERN STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA- NORTH COAST-CENTRAL COAST-WEST SLOPES NORTHERN CASCADES AND PASSES- WEST SLOPES CENTRAL CASCADES AND PASSES- 444 PM PDT MON JUL 2 2007
...ELEVATED FIRE DANGER EXPECTED THIS WEEK...

HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION THIS WEEK... GENERATING MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES...ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES...AND LOWER THAN NORMAL HUMIDITIES. AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY ARE FORECAST TO BE IN 70S TO MID 80S IN THE LOWLANDS WITH SOME 90S POSSIBLE IN SHELTERED VALLEYS OF THE CASCADES. ALONG WITH THESE ELEVATED TEMPERATURES WILL COME LOW HUMIDITY VALUES...EVEN AT NIGHT OVER PORTIONS OF THE CASCADES.

THESE CONDITIONS WILL COMBINE TO LEAD TO AN INCREASED FIRE DANGER SITUATION THIS WEEK...ESPECIALLY IN EXPOSED GRASSY AREAS. INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE ESPECIALLY CAUTIOUS DURING THIS HOLIDAY WEEK WITH FIREWORKS AND OUTDOOR CAMPFIRES AS FINE FUELS... DEFINED AS DRIED GRASS...TWIGS AND PINE NEEDLES...WILL BE DRY ENOUGH BY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON TO EASILY IGNITE.

ALTHOUGH A LARGE PART OF THE REASON FOR THE ENHANCED FIRE DANGER THIS WEEK IS DUE TO THE EXPECTED WARM AND DRY WEATHER...ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IS THE BELOW NORMAL RAINFALL EXPERIENCED ACROSS THE REGION THIS SPRING. EVEN THOUGH WE WERE QUITE WET LAST FALL AND WINTER...WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MONTHS OF APRIL...MAY AND JUNE...PRELIMINARY FIGURES INDICATE THAT WE ARE RUNNING ABOUT 25 PERCENT BELOW NORMAL. LESS RAINFALL DURING THE SPRING MONTHS ALLOWS THE FUELS TO DRY OUT EARLIER AND MORE THOROUGHLY THAN WOULD NORMALLY BE THE CASE BY EARLY JULY.

[Black Box]

This thread is harmless, read it or leave it be.

[Black Box]

Deuced.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

The forecast for Seattle is as follows, courtesy of the weather channel. Look at Wednesday and Thursday. In the 90's!!!!!!!
Seattle-http://http://www.weather.com/outlook/homeandgarden/home/tenday/USWA0395?from=search_10day (http://www.weather.com/outlook/homeandgarden/home/tenday/USWA0395?from=search_10day)
Portland-you will reach the century mark on wednesday!!-http://http://www.weather.com/outlook/homeandgarden/home/tenday/USOR0275?from=search_10day (http://www.weather.com/outlook/homeandgarden/home/tenday/USOR0275?from=search_10day)
Forecast Conditions High/Low °F Precip.
Chance Energy Need Precipitation High Temperatures Low Temperatures
SEATTLE:
Today
Jul 6 Mostly Sunny
77°/55°

Sat
Jul 7 Partly Cloudy
77°/55°

Sun
Jul 8 Partly Cloudy
79°/58°

Mon
Jul 9 Mostly Sunny
78°/60°

Tue
Jul 10 Sunny
87°/64°

Wed
Jul 11 Sunny
93°/67°

Thu
Jul 12 Partly Cloudy
90°/65°

Fri
Jul 13 Partly Cloudy
75°/60°

Sat
Jul 14 Showers
73°/60°

Sun
Jul 15 Partly Cloudy
72°/60°

[MtnClimber]

Sorry Westseattle guy but I just dont buy it. WEather.com is so overrated it just sucks. I don't get my weather from them

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^

Then where do you get it from??????

[moosanova]

Current models indicate as follows.

This weekend onshore flow increases slightly allowing more marine stratus to invade the inland areas but they won't last long as the lower levels are just to dry to allow for prolonged cloud cover, although areas olong the coast could see some drizzle possible particularly along the northern coastal areas.

I.E. La Push, Forks and Neah Bay

Next week a thermal trough ( Warm Low ) will already be in place and drive our temps upward as offshore flow will be strong and allow for downsloping winds off the cascades thus increasing our daytime temps once we hit tuesday and beyond.

Models have been indicating since last monday at this impending heat event, temps will begin to close in on the 90 Degree mark, most areas ( seattle metro included ) will be in the 88-92 degree range by wednesday and it will be more than likely that most of W. Wash. will be 90 or above on Thursday and Friday as the thermal Low really sets in.

We then beging to cool off significantly by the following Sunday and Monday as temps fall back all the way into the mid 70's for highs with morning marine clouds and variable sunshine.

This is one instance where the weather channel is pretty dead on with their forecast for our area, although most of the time they are not.

get ready as this will be the HOTTEST temps we have seen so far this year.

Plenty of fluids guys !!!!

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^^

Just when I'm about to go away something interesting happens......

[MarkDaMan]

:hell:98 degrees and climbing peeps...and it's only 2!

[PacificNW]

Subject: The Pacific Northwest

The Pacific Northwest According To Jeff Foxworthy:

1. You know the state flower (Mildew)

2. You feel guilty throwing aluminum cans or paper in the trash.

3. Use the statement 'sun break' and know what it means.

4. You know more than 10 ways to order coffee.

5. You know more people who own boats than air conditioners.

6. You feel overdressed wearing a suit to a nice restaurant.

7. You stand on a deserted corner in the rain waiting for t he 'Walk'
Signal.

8. You consider that if it has no snow or has not recently erupted, is not a
real mountain.

9. You can taste the difference between Starbucks, Seattle's Best, and V
eneto 's.

10. You know the difference between Chinook, Coho, and Sockeye Salmon.

11. You know how to pronounce Sequim, Puyallup, Issaquah, Oregon, Yakima,and
Willamette

12. You consider swimming an indoor sport.

13.You can tell the difference between Japanese, Chinese and Thai food.

14. In winter, you go to work in the dark and come home in the dark-while
only working eight-hour days.

15. You never go camping without waterproof matches and a poncho.

16. You are not fazed by 'Today's forecast: showers followed by rain,' and
'Tomorrow's forecast: rain followed by showers.'

17. You have no concept of humidity without precipitation.

18. You know that Boring is a town in Oregon and not just a state of mind.

19. You can point to at least two volcanoes, even if you cannot see through
the cloud cover.

20. You notice, 'The mountain is out' when it is a pretty day and you can
actually see it.

21. You put on your shorts when the temperature gets above 50, but still
wear your hiking boots and parka.

22. You switch to your sandals when it gets about 60, but keep the socks on.

23. You have actually used your mountain bike on a mountain.

24. You think people who use umbrellas are either wimps or tourists.

25. You buy new sunglasses every year, because you cannot find the old ones
after such a long time.

26. You measure distance in hours.

27. You often switch from 'heat' to 'a/c' i n the same day.

28. You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit under a raincoat.

29. You know all the important seasons: Almost Winter, Winter, Still Raining
(Spring), Road Const ruction (Summer), Deer & Elk Season (Fall).

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^^

LOL :haha:


-Anyway at my house the outside thermometer reads 91 degrees!!!
- But the weather channel says it's only 86 downtown.

-96 tomorrow in Seattle. I'll be here to experience the heat and then I'm heading off to Florida/Spain at night. :D

[MarkDaMan]

and we're at 101 and rising...

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

It's 93 at my house. It's really hot. :hell:

[PacificNW]

It is 70 in the shade. My house is nice and cool. My dog, and I, are very comfortable! We went to Honeyman State Park around noon and sat in the shade under a tree and watched the boaters. I am heading to the beach later. It's tough! :)

[James Bond Agent 007]

LOL!! About 20 of those 29 Foxworthy things actually applies to me! :haha:

[seaskyfan]

^ I just had to explain "sunbreaks" to some visitors a couple of weeks ago. It is an odd concept.

They were also stumped by "rain turning to showers" which has always made perfect sense to me.

Anyone else hot and cranky tonight?

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

Quote: 24. You think people who use umbrellas are either wimps or tourists.


^^^

I love this one. It's so true.

[moosanova]

All i gotta say is........

Man i hate being Right !!!!

Cooling coming towards the tail end of the week.

But newest models show that hot weather could return for middle of next week.

Still a ways out and will update as needed.

[PacificNW]

YOU KNOW IT'S HOT WHEN...

~ The birds have to use potholders to pull worms out of the ground.

~ The trees are whistling for the dogs.

~ The best parking place is determined by shade instead of distance.

~ Hot water now comes out of both taps.

~ You can make sun tea instantly.

~ You learn that a seat belt buckle makes a pretty good branding iron.
~ The temperature drops below 95 and you feel a little chilly.

~ You discover that in July it only takes 2 fingers to steer your car.
~ You discover you can get sunburned through your car window.

~ You actually burn your hand opening the car door.

~ You break into a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 a.m.

~ Your biggest bicycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked out and
end up lying on the pavement and cook to death?"

~ You realize that asphalt has a liquid state.

~ The potatoes cook underground, so all you have to do is pull one out
and add butter, salt and pepper.

~ Farmers are feeding their chickens crushed ice to keep them from
laying boiled eggs.

~ The cows are giving evaporated milk.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^

LOL!!! Those were pretty good. :D

[destroybananas]

it was 101 degrees in Redmond when I left work at 4pm today.

[destroybananas]

it's 102 right now lol

[northface]

103 renton highlands.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^

You guys are lucky..... It's only 98 in West Seattle, and 93 Downtown.

[Black Box]

Today was a hot one, no doubt, but it was not as oppressive as I thought it would be. The breeze was pleasant. The sunset tonight, A DAMN BEAUTY!

[MtnClimber]

. will be 90 or above on Thursday and Friday as the thermal Low really sets in.!!

WEst seattle guy what did I tell you about the weather channel? Seems like you were off a little moosanova on Thursdays high temps in the 90s! Otherwise good forecast.

As far as thunderstorms go, the marine push was to strong last night. It will likely kill the prospect of having thunderstorms.. If we are lucky we will get into the mid 80s today.

[moosanova]

Thus the basis of weather forecasting Mtn.

It is not an exact science, most times we can pinpoint what is going to happen, however in this instance the thermal trough was not as strong thus inhibiting another excruciating hot day.

And the fact that the marine push came in sooner than first thought is not going to prevent any thunderstorms ( Dry in Nature ) to form today or tommorrow as the trough has pushed east of the cascades but is still a major player as you have to different air masses in play.

Albeit, it felt great to wake up with a chill this morning but nevertheless, it's instances like this that make you really appreciate summer around here, even if it is 98 degrees outside.

I know i'm not being all that informative today but i have a killer headache from the heat and can't really think straight, so forgive me.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^

Don't even complain. I'm in Florida right now and it was 95 today and the heat index made it feel like 105. At least you guys have a dry heat.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^^

Just after I posted this a severe storm came through and it knocked out our power which we just got back now.

[NW Mike]

Dry thunderstorms moving through Snoho county Now on friday morning!

[moosanova]

Nothing to report other than a glorious Err i mean a nice sunny and moderate day.

Showers move in for the middle of next week, but most will not see any rain.

I will update as needed.

Ahhh hell....... the weather is going to be mundane for the next week and a half anyways.

Summer's boring weather wise, bring on winter baby !!!!!

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

I'm back from Florida, and looks like some beneficial rain for the Pac. NW today. :tup:

[moosanova]

Sick Today !!!

But will say that the lower levels are very unstable and the threat of thunderstorms exsist Today !!!!

Not everyone will see or hear them, but just be aware that they will be around.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

From the National Weather Service:

Severe Weather Alert

Weather Statement


HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA 1049 PM PDT FRI JUL 20 2007
...AN UNSEASONABLY STRONG FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF RAIN SUNDAY AND SOME FLOODING IS POSSIBLE...

STEADY RAIN OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY COULD LEAD TO SOME FLOODING. THE TWO RIVERS MOST LIKELY TO FLOOD IN THIS SITUATION ARE THE SKOKOMISH AND THE SKAGIT...BUT FLOODING IS ALSO POSSIBLE ON OTHER FLOOD PRONE RIVERS THAT FLOW OUT OF THE OLYMPICS AND NORTH CASCADES.

IF FLOODING DOES OCCUR IT WILL BE RELATIVELY MINOR.

LOCALIZED FLOODING IS POSSIBLE ACROSS THE LOWLANDS OF WESTERN WASHINGTON DUE TO PONDING AS WELL...AND MOTORISTS SHOULD USE CAUTION WHEN DRIVING THROUGH LOW LYING AREAS AND UNDERPASSES.

PERIODS OF RAIN WILL BEGIN SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE FRONTAL SYSTEM ARRIVES. MORE OR LESS STEADY RAIN WILL CONTINUE SUNDAY AND INTO SUNDAY NIGHT AS THE COLD FRONT MAKES ITS WAY SLOWLY ACROSS WESTERN WASHINGTON. STORM TOTALS IN THE OLYMPICS AND NORTH CASCADES COULD BE AS HIGH AS TWO TO FOUR INCHES OF RAIN...WITH ONE OR TWO INCHES OF RAIN POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE LOWLANDS.

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE COULD ISSUE A FLOOD WATCH FOR THIS EVENT ON SATURDAY.





-I check the National Weather Service in Portland and no warnings for heavy rain were out.

-hmmmmm............. Looks like a winter like storm is on it's way to the NW.

[Vashon118]

1-2 inches of rain? Rivers on the rise? In ... July?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003799255_weather21m.html

By Manuel Valdes and Brian Alexander
Seattle Times staff reporters

Look out your window this weekend and it might feel like November has come a few months early.

The unusually hot weather that made headlines earlier this month has turned unusually rainy as the National Weather Service is predicting 1 to 2 inches of rain in the Seattle area, and the possibility of local rivers flooding.

To make matters worse, the rain promises to drop attendance and spirits at various local festivals and events, Seattle Center's annual Bite of Seattle included.

The Darrington Bluegrass Festival and the Seafair Indian Days Pow Wow also are this weekend.

The forecast calls for heavy rain to roll into the Seattle area tonight, dumping 1 to 2 inches in the lowlands and perhaps even more in the mountains. The Olympic Peninsula could get the worst of it, with up to 5 inches in the mountains there.

"It's kind of hard to say now about how much rain is going to fall," said weather-service meteorologist Johnny Burg. "We're not going to issue any kind of flood watch until maybe [Saturday]."

The average daily rain at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport for July is about .02 inches, or about .79 inches for the entire month. An inch of rain would certainly be record-breaking, Burg said.

At Olympic National Park, rangers will monitor weather conditions throughout the weekend, and park officials recommend visitors check in at ranger stations when they arrive, said Barb Maynes, a park spokeswoman.

Maynes said people should be cautious, check weather patterns before they arrive, and not try to cross swollen creeks or rivers.

This is one of the busiest times of the year for Olympic National Park. More than 427,000 visits were recorded in July 2006.

There was "some flooding in August a number of years ago," Maynes said. "It's very unusual; July is typically one of our driest months."

The rain might be remnants of Typhoon Man-Yi, which lashed Japan last week, Burg said.

This weekend's forecast is the latest in what is becoming an unusually wet July in Western Washington.

For the month, Olympia has recorded 50 percent more rainfall than normal.

Rainfall at Sea-Tac is about average, but the weather service expects this weekend's rains to push the monthly total above average.

Burg suggests staying inside this weekend unless you're "a glutton for punishment and you like sloshing around in the mud. Personally, I would say, wait until next weekend; next weekend looks a lot better."

Seattle Times reporter Christina Siderius contributed to this report.

Manuel Valdes: mvaldes@seattletimes.com or 206-748-5874; Brian Alexander: balexander@seattletimes.com or 206-464-2026.

Copyright © 2007 The Seattle Times Company

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

It's pouring right now.

[Black Box]

A bit humid as well.

[James Bond Agent 007]

I just love it: It's raining pretty steadily out right now, yet my apartment complex's sprinklers just turned on, as they do every night at 2am. The wonders of computerized sprinkler systems.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

25-30 min. Arrival Delays at Seatac because of low ceilings and heavy rain at this time.

[moosanova]

Nothing to report other than sunshine for the next 5-6 days after today's transition period.

Back to the basement i go.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

I'm in Lake Chelan right now and all the clouds that Seattle and Portland had today are beginning to roll over the mountains. They are very dark, tall, and menacing so it looks like I might get a light show tonight. Yay!!! :banana:

[moosanova]

Hey guys, for those of you who are interested, i am posting a preliminary forecast for the coming winter here in the Pac Nw........ Key Word being

" Preliminary "

Due to previous cycles and statistical data, here is what i am forecasting for the coming '07-'08 winter season.

One thing that is noticeable to me is that the ENSO is Active, The Pacific SST's ( Sea Surface Temperature ) are cooling rapidly as well as a weak La Nina is developing.

Typically in neutral years we receive on average 7 snow days or ( 2-4 ) lowland snow events and average between 15-40 subfreezing temperature days.
( that is for the entire winter season )

However, during a weak or moderate La Nina Year, those numbers double.

Seeing as how we are heading into a weak la nina i expect the following.

Specifically here in the Pacific Nw i expect the following to occur....

Significant lowland snow events, extended to prolonged periods of below average temperatures, increased wind activity and just an overall winter worse than the one we just previously experienced.

This forecast is not based off my personal wishes but moreso off of cyclic data and yearly averages between La Nina and El Nino events......

Stay tuned as this will be updated with better certainty as the winter months approach.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

-I'm excited!!! I can already tell that the seasons are starting to change. Our low temperatures for the day are decreasing. It was in the low 50's last night at my house, which is unusual for summer.

-This winter I hope we get a week of off and on snow. That would be great. :P

[James Bond Agent 007]

Typically in neutral years we receive on average 7 snow days or ( 2-4 ) lowland snow events and average between 15-40 subfreezing temperature days.
( that is for the entire winter season )

However, during a weak or moderate La Nina Year, those numbers double.

Seeing as how we are heading into a weak la nina i expect the following.

Specifically here in the Pacific Nw i expect the following to occur....

Significant lowland snow events, extended to prolonged periods of below average temperatures, increased wind activity and just an overall winter worse than the one we just previously experienced.
Sounds good to me!!! :banana:

Incidentally, is it me, or, aside from a few relatively brief warm spells, has this been a cloudier and cooler summer than usual?

Not that I'm complaining.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

:previous:

August has been quite cool actually, with lows in the upper 50's and high 40's. Very unusual for summer.

-BTW, I'm going to Chelan this weekend and the conditions look stormy!! :banana: Yay!! more T-Storms!!

[James Bond Agent 007]

^
Damn I'm jealous. :( I haven't seen a real T-storm since 2000, when I was in Spokane. :(

[alexjon]

I'm used to snow, deep snow even, and trudging through snow on hills. But those are Omaha hills. Halfway between Portland and Seattle hills, but only barely. I feel I'll be sliding in to the sound at some point this upcoming winter.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^
Damn I'm jealous. I haven't seen a real T-storm since 2000, when I was in Spokane.

^ LOL, and T-Storms in Eastern WA aren't even that eventful compared to the Midwest and Florida.

I recently went to Florida and got some some T-Storm pics if anybody would like to see them.

[James Bond Agent 007]

^
Actually, when I was in Spokane, I saw some T-storms that were real doozers.

And I grew up in NJ and spent 4 years in NC, so I should know. :)

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^^

Ya when I was in Oak Harbor North Carolina we had nasty Thunderstorms everyday, with hail, wind and everything. It was crazy.

[zilfondel]

The weather the past week has been PERFECT. Nice reminder as to why I live in Oregon! I couldn't ask for anything better...

...and I could even run up to Mt. Hood for some skiing! :D

[moosanova]

So i was on my way home very early this morning from E. Wash via the NCH ( North Cascades Highway ) and low and behold once i reached the summit of Sherman Pass ( Elv. 5776 ft, a rain/snow mix began to fall, and as i progressed even further west over the summit it came down even harder and eventually turned to all snow, and lasted for approx. 10 mins before abruptly ceasing and clearing up......

Now in the 16 years i have lived in W. Washington i have never seen it snow this early, EVER ! !!

Could it have been a sign of our upcoming winter???

Possibly, as we are in the midst of a Moderate La Nina and with SST's coolling rapidly anything is possible....... and i have reason to believe so as other parts of the north are experiencing early signs of winter's approach....

Northern maine this past week was under heavy freeze warnings, and some areas of the catskills are already leafless or in the late stages of color......

We shall soon see.......

Stay Tuned

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

^ Wow!!! That's awesome!!

[destroybananas]

UGH! This summer sucks!

[Black Box]

^Sorry to you folks that love a good hot spell, but I've been very happy with the weather this summer. Maybe September holds some potential for warmer than average temperatures.

[UrbanSteroid]

I'm with you black box, I think this summer has been great, nice little breaks of rain in the overall sunny mild weather to keep me active outside, and the lawn green. Last summer was just too dry and hot for my taste.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Sunday, September 2, 2007
Northern lights tonight? Maybe, if it's clear, after midnight
By Sanjay Bhatt
Seattle Times staff reporter

Sky gazers in Washington may get a chance to see the haunting glow of the northern lights early Monday because of electrical storms in the atmosphere, according to the National Weather Service.

While there's no guarantee of seeing the glow of the aurora borealis, the best time to get a glimpse of the sky show will be from midnight to 5 a.m. Monday, said Dennis D'Amico, a National Weather Service meteorologist in Seattle. The forecast for Seattle tonight is partly cloudy, but the sky is expected to clear after midnight.

Those who are in rural, dark areas with no clouds — such as the Lake Chelan area — have the best chance of seeing the lights, he said.

"There is a chance even if it's completely clear we wouldn't be able to see it," he said. It's rare for the northern lights to even be visible from Seattle's latitude, he said, so "if you can find yourself a prime viewing location, it would probably be worth giving it a shot."

Besides areas east of the Cascades and north of Seattle, those living in the Bremerton area might have a good seat to glimpse the aurora, D'Amico said.

Showers are expected to arrive Monday night.

[Black Box]

Appears to be very cloudy at the moment. I see hints of the sunset, but it does not look promising.

[MrVandelay]

Auroral Activity Extrapolated from NOAA POES

http://www.sel.noaa.gov/pmap/pmapN.html

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

Looks like there will be thundershowers for Tuesday.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Well, if I look up in the sky to the south, it is clear and I can see a zillion stars.

But if I look north - where the northern lights would be - it's mostly cloudy. :(

[Black Box]

I can see nothing but the usual on the horizon.

[James Bond Agent 007]

We've got a thunderstorm going here!! :banana:

[Black Box]

^I thought I'd be the first, you beat me to it. A deluge! I've got that OMD song, uh, Electricity, synth beating in my head.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Well it didn't last long.

It looks like on the radar there might be another one headed this way, but I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope it doesn't fizzle out.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

Wow!! What a big storm last night. I watched the last show from 10:30 all they way to 12:15. I have a south facing window so i got a good view of the light show as it approached from Olympia.

[Vashon118]

Rainfall total yesterday at Sea-Tac was a record 0.46 inches and more than 10X the normal (0.04). At last check the rainfall total is 0.62 for today. It's raining preety heavily right now.

[alexjon]

Way too hot today :(

[Skian]

Enjoy it while it lasts..............
Fall is coming!

[alexjon]

I love fall!

[James Bond Agent 007]

It feels like the rainy season has begun.

[WESTSEATTLEGUY]

Ya, it's raining hard right now.

[Black Box]

^What a relief!