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Steely Dan
Nov 14, 2006, 12:58 AM
here's a link to the last page of the old thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=41986&page=81

Pandemonious
Nov 14, 2006, 1:16 AM
Well, I guess I will need to change my diagram now. Any idea at all where the extra height is added in?

Even from the renderings it is hard to get the real impact this baby will have on the skyline.. especially from the west.. will be huge.

BVictor1
Nov 14, 2006, 6:57 PM
A few more shots from Sunday 11/12

View of the site and the installation of the tower crane from the 35th floor of the LaSalle-Wacker Building - 2006-11-12
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/11/499549.jpg

Installing components to the tower crane as seen from the LaSalle-Wacker Building - 2006-11-12
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/11/499553.jpg

View from the northeast into the core area - 2006-11-12
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/11/499545.jpg

dubai 1
Nov 14, 2006, 7:25 PM
NICE Updates, when does the additional excavation start?

left of center
Nov 14, 2006, 7:27 PM
^ im still in awe at the tiny size of that plot of land. they are building a supertall on a quarter of a block! can that tower crane even fully rotate at the height its at? insane!

BVictor1
Nov 14, 2006, 8:12 PM
^ im still in awe at the tiny size of that plot of land. they are building a supertall on a quarter of a block! can that tower crane even fully rotate at the height its at? insane!

At it's current height. I don't believe that it can fully rotate unless the boom is on an angle, and I can't remember if it is.

Also Steely, I hate to ask, but until I see the blueprints again, I'd like the height on the thread to remain 1,047'.

The other person that I contacted at Teng said the height hadn't changed, so until I get a visual confirmation by looking at the prints, I will be conservative and say it's better to keep the old 1,047' height.

Didn't mean to jump the gun or anything, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Mr Roboto
Nov 14, 2006, 8:31 PM
I cant wait till this thing starts going vertical, seems like they've been in that hole forever. Any chance it could catch up to Trump at some point, seeing as how its got a lot less square footage?

kalmia
Nov 14, 2006, 8:47 PM
^ im still in awe at the tiny size of that plot of land. they are building a supertall on a quarter of a block! can that tower crane even fully rotate at the height its at? insane!


Does anyone here know the actual dimentions of the lot size? It doesn't look like much more than 150 feet on the east side.

BVictor1
Nov 14, 2006, 9:11 PM
I cant wait till this thing starts going vertical, seems like they've been in that hole forever. Any chance it could catch up to Trump at some point, seeing as how its got a lot less square footage?

It won't be catching Trump.

Overall footprint: ~23,000sf
Core footprint: ~4,100sf

Structure won't be to Upper Wacker until about May 07

kalmia
Nov 14, 2006, 10:09 PM
It won't be catching Trump.

Overall footprint: ~23,000sf
Core footprint: ~4,100sf

Structure won't be to Upper Wacker until about May 07


I guess the lot is about the size of or smaller than a typical suburban McMansion lot.

There are many suburbs that wouldn't allow even a single family house to be built on a lot that size.

BVictor1
Nov 14, 2006, 10:23 PM
I guess the lot is about the size of or smaller than a typical suburban McMansion lot.

There are many suburbs that wouldn't allow even a single family house to be built on a lot that size.

Welcome to Chicago, where we try to utilize our assets and not waste them...:)

Nowhereman1280
Nov 14, 2006, 11:22 PM
PSH! Tell me about it! I grew up in the county just north of Milwaukee, one of the ten richest by per capita income in the US, where the average lot size had to be at least 4 or 5 acres!

X-fib
Nov 15, 2006, 2:04 AM
PSH! Tell me about it! I grew up in the county just north of Milwaukee, one of the ten richest by per capita income in the US, where the average lot size had to be at least 4 or 5 acres!


Laid on its side, can you imagine, with parking lots, how much land a supertall like Waterview would concern in the burbs? Land use and visual impact are strong arguements for building vertical. Oh, some areas in Oconto County, WI require 10 plus acres for per house (much to the shagrin of developers!) :rolleyes:

Alliance
Nov 15, 2006, 7:42 AM
Welcome to Chicago, where we try to utilize our assets and not waste them...:)
:notacrook:

BVictor1
Nov 17, 2006, 4:34 PM
Well, and questions currently about the height of this buildings now have been put to rest as far as I am concerned. Waterview Tower went back before the plan commission for a small increase in the FAR. The height of the building hasn't changed. They are planning to add 2 more hotel rooms per floor. After the meeting I asked about the views from the rooms, because that area faces the Transportation Building and The LaSalle Wacker. The reply was that Shangri;La officials figured if you can have a hotel room facing a blank wall in New York with no problems, why not here too? Or something to that affect. Afterwards, I became the proud owner the the presentation boards:) , which included a floor overview and nice rendering as you can see. They just gave me the boards, and I certainly appreciate that. Fuck, who are you kidding? I'm going to get these bitches framed when I get a chance.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050788.jpg

Yes, that dude from the Union was there to oppose the project. Commissioner Natarus asked him if he realized that the building was already under-cxonstruction and he said yes. It was pretty much a non-issue.

Here's the floor overview for Waterview Tower. Those of you who bought units can now find out how high you are actually living.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050781.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050782.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050783.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050784.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050785.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050786.jpg

I'm also sure that someone is going to comment that the diagram shows 88 floors. Well, if you count the mezzanine level 1M and the roof, then you get 90.

-GR2NY-
Nov 17, 2006, 4:37 PM
This one I am truly excited about. It reminds me of myself. Tall, thin, and well.... light colored.

WonderlandPark
Nov 17, 2006, 4:51 PM
So, according to the elevations above, roof is 1012ft and screen wall is 1035?

Wheelingman04
Nov 18, 2006, 7:38 AM
What an exciting project.:cheers:

jcchii
Nov 18, 2006, 4:25 PM
this is the kind we like to see. thin and tall.
when construction hits that upper thin section it should really shoot up

budman
Nov 18, 2006, 6:55 PM
BVic, left you a pm.

budman
Nov 18, 2006, 7:45 PM
Is it possible to accurately guess the ceiling heights from this diagram?

dubai 1
Nov 20, 2006, 10:05 PM
any updates

Tom Servo
Nov 21, 2006, 4:08 AM
Does anyone have any new photos of the construction progress?

BVictor1
Nov 21, 2006, 4:23 AM
Does anyone have any new photos of the construction progress?

nothing new to see. relax people, we are in the stages of construction where changes come slowly, and there's no need for a photo everyday. once the building is above ground, you will see photo updates more often.

StormFire
Nov 21, 2006, 5:12 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/BVictor1/P1050788.jpg



Question - look at the pic above and then look at the pic on the first posting of this thread. Is that first one (first post) a bad pic OR did they thicken the tower at some point (or is it a bad pic)? If you look closely at the left pic in the right picture, there are two shades of gray - and the darker alone looks like what is in the first posting. Is the lighter gray the thicker tower?

Maybe this was discussed and I missed it?

dboggie
Nov 21, 2006, 5:53 PM
I think that the lighter gray is the diagonal face of the building, which you cannot see very well in the rendering on page 1.

rds989
Nov 21, 2006, 6:30 PM
The tower is a wedge -- on page 1 you see a thin side of the wedge, and the picture above is a thick side.

mightygoose
Nov 21, 2006, 6:54 PM
the left hand diagram is the far end of the tower not seen in the photo and yes it is a slight wedge...

Ktulured55
Nov 27, 2006, 8:16 PM
Anyone have any new photos?

It looks like this one is at the same exact phase as Freedom Tower.

Steely Dan
Nov 27, 2006, 8:50 PM
^ according to victor, they're gonna be tooling around in the ground until next spring, so don't expect frequent photo updates until then because not much is visually changing at the site right now.

dubai 1
Nov 30, 2006, 7:18 AM
^^ that's not true http://www.teng.com/waterview/flash_full/Construction/indextest.html

Chicago Shawn
Dec 2, 2006, 8:42 AM
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/502972.jpg
Looking north across the site

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/502973.jpg
Shear Wall formwork and rebar

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/502975.jpg
Looking down from the fourth floor of the adjacent parking garage within the 203 North LaSalle Building

Rocket1
Dec 2, 2006, 8:49 AM
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/502972.jpg
Looking north across the site

Just wondering where you took that photo.

Was it from the parking garage just to the south of the site?

Chicago Shawn
Dec 2, 2006, 9:08 AM
^The Alley along the south end of the site. A scaffold went up over it, and a section of the perimeter fence was removed as result, making it easier to snap a pic from this angle.

denizen467
Dec 3, 2006, 9:18 AM
^ OMG, the core's about to go vertical!

Boy, that is a rare (and last-ever) elevation view of Wacker Drive from the south.

Fabb
Dec 3, 2006, 9:37 AM
^ OMG, the core's about to go vertical!

Right.
I bet that it'll rise faster than TTC.

BVictor1
Dec 3, 2006, 4:09 PM
Right.
I bet that it'll rise faster than TTC.

you'd lose that bet. as I mentioned before, they aren't going to pass Trump Tower. Trump has too big of a head start for them to catch up. and the core isn't going verticle yet. have we all forgot they they still have hell of a lot of soil to excavate out from around the core? they have to go down 4 floors and then build that space back up.

it's not going to bass or catch Trump.

Duke22
Dec 3, 2006, 4:29 PM
I think Fabb might just have meant that once it does begin to rise it will go up faster than Trump has been going up, not that it will nessisarily catch up with it.

BVictor1
Dec 3, 2006, 5:18 PM
I think Fabb might just have meant that once it does begin to rise it will go up faster than Trump has been going up, not that it will nessisarily catch up with it.

that's kind of a given. it's half the size

Fabb
Dec 3, 2006, 5:24 PM
That's why I was saying... All right, it was obvious since it's half the size.
But, will it rise twice as fast ?

Dougall5505
Dec 3, 2006, 6:47 PM
why wouldn't the core go vertical that is what is happening at block 37 and it doesn't look like they have excavated at all

denizen467
Dec 3, 2006, 6:52 PM
BVic, you're saying that they're basically stopping work on building up the core until the surrounding excavation is done?

Nowhereman1280
Dec 3, 2006, 7:24 PM
BVic, you're saying that they're basically stopping work on building up the core until the surrounding excavation is done?

I'm not sure Bvic is trying to say that. He doesn't know exactly how they are going to build it, but he can probably give a pretty good guess as to what they will do. I bet the core will continue to rise, but not as fast as it is now.

If you look at how fast they have been building that core, if the sides move anywhere as quickly, they will catch up with the core quite quickly.

BVictor1
Dec 3, 2006, 7:26 PM
BVic, you're saying that they're basically stopping work on building up the core until the surrounding excavation is done?

I believe that they might build the core up to upper Wacker, but not beyond until the excavation work and building up of lower levels is complete.

why wouldn't the core go vertical that is what is happening at block 37 and it doesn't look like they have excavated at all

don't know. I believe it's because the Block 37 building will be steel. Remember when they were working on MoMo in the early stages? The cores got pretty far beyond the rest of the structure, until the structure switched from steel framing to concrete. Now the cores are like 2 floors higher than the rest of the structure.

Nowhereman1280
Dec 3, 2006, 8:07 PM
\I believe it's because the Block 37 building will be steel. Remember when they were working on MoMo in the early stages? The cores got pretty far beyond the rest of the structure, until the structure switched from steel framing to concrete. Now the cores are like 2 floors higher than the rest of the structure.

That would make sense, look at Comcast Center in Philly, the exact same thing, the core is way ahead of the steel.

So even if Waterview doesn't break street level until they get the rest of the foundation underway, we are still going to have an interesting few weeks because, if what Bvic said ends up being the case, then they should be getting pretty close to starting to excavate the rest of the site.

dubai 1
Dec 5, 2006, 12:49 AM
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/502972.jpg
Looking north across the site

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/502973.jpg
Shear Wall formwork and rebar

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/502975.jpg
Looking down from the fourth floor of the adjacent parking garage within the 203 North LaSalle Building
were did you get these pic's from, could you post the link ?

Atlas
Dec 5, 2006, 5:47 AM
:previous: He might have taken them. He lives in Chicago according to his location.

BVictor1
Dec 5, 2006, 7:40 AM
:previous: He might have taken them. He lives in Chicago according to his location.

He took the photos himself. Thee majority of the pictures that you'll see in the Chicago threads were taken by individual who work, live or play downtown. You'll hardly get any third party images here...

SolarWind
Dec 8, 2006, 2:20 AM
December 7, 2006

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6889/p1010158xs4.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7628/p1010160pt9.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9733/p1010164ui2.jpg

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9743/p1010170ru4.jpg

Nowhereman1280
Dec 8, 2006, 2:41 AM
I dunno Bvic, once they pour the concrete on the rebar they have up already, the core will be pretty close to level with Wacker. All they need is one more level and Waterview will be pretty clearly above the street level. Maybe they'll keep working on the core as they continue excavating the sides, I don't see why they wouldn't do that.

SolarWind
Dec 8, 2006, 2:52 AM
I dunno Bvic, once they pour the concrete on the rebar they have up already, the core will be pretty close to level with Wacker. All they need is one more level and Waterview will be pretty clearly above the street level. Maybe they'll keep working on the core as they continue excavating the sides, I don't see why they wouldn't do that.
Based on what I saw today, the core will clearly be higher than Wacker. I'm 6' 2'' and the top of the rebar is above my eye level.

Nowhereman1280
Dec 8, 2006, 2:55 AM
WOW! That's crazy! They are sure moving right along on this thing, are you guys sure that the core won't catch up with Trump at some point?

Jaroslaw
Dec 8, 2006, 7:40 AM
-So they've changed plans from having four to two floors below street level?

budman
Dec 8, 2006, 3:50 PM
I talked to one of the workers at the site last week, and he said 4 levels below street level...although he also mentioned that there would be below-ground parking as well, and that was news to me.

Jaroslaw
Dec 10, 2006, 12:22 PM
-Sorry, I didn't look at the construction photos closely enough. They have in fact already poured three levels of the core, one more to upper Wacker and that's four...

Rocket1
Dec 10, 2006, 5:09 PM
Layman's question:

In a building like Waterview Tower, about what % of the buildings load is supported by the core?

And do buildings typically have just 1 core? Or might one with a bigger footprint have more?

dubai 1
Dec 10, 2006, 8:07 PM
^^ those are Very good questions

denizen467
Dec 11, 2006, 3:25 AM
^ The fewer cores, the more rentable / saleable space, so even with a big footprint / taller building there will be a bigger core but not multiple cores. A rare example of multiple cores is MoMo, but that's structurally two buildings (that fuse higher up) anyway.

Of course if by 'bigger footprint' you mean the Merchandise Mart, then yes, of course there will be multiple cores, but then we're not talking highrises anymore.

Jaroslaw
Dec 11, 2006, 5:10 AM
I believe that the reason we are seeing fewer multiple cores, actually, is that each core must have two stairwells. In the old days--I don't know when this regulation came into effect--you'd have two or three cores in apartment buildings to give you more apartments with E-W or N-S views. Most "commieblocks" have multiple cores because of the shape of the building, too...

honte
Dec 12, 2006, 6:27 PM
why wouldn't the core go vertical that is what is happening at block 37 and it doesn't look like they have excavated at all

They have done this intentionally at Block 37 because they are pressed for time in trying to keep their anchor office tenant. They will be building up and building down at the same time. It's unorthodox, a bit risky, and not done very often.

honte
Dec 12, 2006, 6:28 PM
Here are some excepts from the Waterview Tower e-Newsletter, 12/07/06. Most of you probably already have this, but oh well:

____________________

What does it take to get a five star rating?

Many developments tout five star living in thier ads, but do they have what it takes to achieve this highly coveted and very rare rating? Among Chicago's hundreds of hotels, only three of them are rated 5 stars. What goes into a five-star hotel? While rating organizations won't reveal all of the details, we do know this: the speed of the elevators, the thread count of the sheets and the number of seconds you wait at the bar before being offered a drink are all taken into account. In addition, the furniture cannot contain any veneer, the artwork must be of gallery quality and a full room service menu must be available 24 hours a day. While no hotel under construction can guarantee that they will be rated 5 stars (they must be rated by at least two separate evaluators after they are open), all of the current Shangri-La Hotels around the globe are 5 stars, and we fully expect the Shangri-La Hotel, Chicago to be no different.


Construction Update

The construction crew recently installed a 180 foot tall section of the tower crane that will remain in place throughout the construction, and will grow taller as the building progresses. Able to lift over 12 tons, the crane will play a crucial role in delivering materials to the site. The crane operator begins his morning aerobics by climbing the 180 foot tall ladder to his cab high above the site, where he stays until his shift is over. Once at its full height of 1,100 feet, the operator will be able to take service elevators most of the way up. Shortly, perimeter excavation will begin around the building's core, followed by another large cement pour to complete the lower levels. You can visit our website to view the construction progress.


Shangri-La's CEO wins 2006 Hotelier of the World

Giovanni Angelini, CEO of Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts, was recently awarded 'Hotelier of the World' by Hotels Magazine. Angelini, who has worked in the hotel business since he was young, follows his philosophy of "Hire for attitude and train for skill" which is Shangri-La's way of doing business. "A stable and motivated team of professionals comes on top of any other priority in the hotel industry," he says. And one of the accomplishments he is most proud of during his seven years as CEO is the low rate of employee turnover. With all of the energy Shangri-La puts into caring for its employees, you can imagine the effort they put into caring for their hotel guests.


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budman
Dec 17, 2006, 10:01 PM
From Saturday's Trib:

Sharon Stangenes

Second banana offers opulence along the river


Published December 16, 2006


The hole at the corner of Wacker Drive and Clark Street across the street from the Chicago River may well be the start of what is stacking up as the Avis of luxury condominiums, compared with the Hertz--Trump International Hotel & Tower.

Construction is under way for the 90-story Waterview Tower, second only in size and certainly in publicity to the Trump project just up the river.

Though not nearly as well-known as Trump, the Waterview is no slouch in impressive credentials. It will be the city's third-tallest residential tower--only the Hancock Center and Trump Tower will be taller--and it will be the fifth-tallest building in the city when completed in 2009.

The Waterview will have 233 condominiums on floors 30 to 88. The 200-room Shangri-La Hotel Chicago, the first in the U.S. for the Hong Kong-based chain, will be on the lower floors.

This is a home-grown project, designed by Thomas Hoepf of Chicago's Teng & Associates, the city's second-largest architecture firm and the developer of the building. In addition to design and development, the company does engineering, interiors and construction management and is tapping many of those resources for this project.

Just why there isn't more public buzz about the building is hard to say. Perhaps it is because the site is several blocks west of Michigan Avenue, away from the narrow strip of shopping and lakefront sights that define Chicago for many people.

Maybe it is because it is part of a wall of mostly commercial towers along the south side of Wacker Drive. Maybe it is because the Shangri-La name is new to the U.S.

Maybe, it is just a matter of a name.

"Teng is well-known in architecture but is not a household word like Trump" admitted Cody Lassen, marketing and public relations for the project. While his name may not be familiar, Teng's work on the G Concourse at O'Hare International Airport and the Lake Shore Drive Relocation and Museum Campus is familiar to most Chicagoans, he said.

Nevertheless, the project is among a handful competing for buyers willing to pay $700 or more a square foot for a new home.

About 60 percent of the condos are sold and first move-ins are projected for summer 2009, Lassen said.

"Everything is double," he said, describing what makes this building different from the competition.Where other projects hope to lure residents by piggy-backing the services and amenities of a luxury hotel, the residents of this building will have their own separate pool, whirlpool, sauna, massage room, concierge and door staff. What's more, they will able to call the hotel's room service for a late-night snack.

Many of those resident facilities will be on the 29th floor, so homeowners won't be bumping into hotel guests.

Lassen said this is a building where all units will have a water view (the river or the lake, sometimes both), the highest balconies in the city (all but one floor plan has a balcony) and no more than five condos on a floor. Some of the top floors are full-floor residences with 360-degree views.

Buyers will have deeded parking separate from the hotel parking and, for those willing to pay the $150,000 price tag, there are private two-car garages with storage space.

As in many luxury condo projects, the sales office is high in the sky--in this case the 35th floor of the building next to the site--to give potential buyers a taste of the vistas from the future condos and a bird's-eye view of the building's construction.

Unlike the sales office for Trump at the IBM Building, which has the hushed ambience of stepping into a tony Oak Street boutique, this sales office is more like stepping into an architect's office. The look is spare, but businesslike.

With windows overlooking the Chicago River on the north, east over the construction site and south toward the cityscape, with glimpses of the lake around the Adler Planetarium, the space suffers when comparison to Trump's in the IBM Building. That's because the windows are those of an older office building and not the floor-to-ceiling wall of windows buyers can expect in their new homes.

The partial model of the three-bedroom 01 plan gives buyers a sense of the standard finishes, particularly the kitchen and bath, along with the basic condo configuration.

But this is only a portion of the actual 3,200 square feet of living space promised in the plan.


Two secondary bedrooms, two baths, the study and a powder room are not represented, but would-be buyers will get a good sense of the master bedroom and bath and walk-in closet, the kitchen, and something of the future living and dining room.

The unit, which is on a corner with north, east and south views, is part of the nearly triangular residential section of the building, which sits atop the lower part of the tower.

The front door of the condo opens to a foyer from which a gallery leads to the living and dining rooms. Most of the rooms are accessed from the gallery.

The two most impressive rooms in the model are the master bath, roughly actual size, about 130 square feet, with floors and walls of Carrera marble, and the sleek, contemporary kitchen.

In the bath, the door opens to the whirlpool/tub in the center with alcoves to the right and left for shower and stool. Just inside the door, there is a sink to the right and to the left.

The kitchen is reached from the gallery through a generous butler's pantry with sink. Outfitted with lacquer European-style cabinetry and appliances, the room has a large center island and is big enough for serious cooking. There is space for a small kitchen table and chairs in a small bay jutting out from the floor-to-ceiling windows.

I wish I could be as enthusiastic about the model's living room and dining rooms. Poorly lighted and scaled down, the spaces felt constricted for entertaining. And it was hard to imagine the natural light that surely will pour in from the walls of floor-to-ceiling windows.

Some 21st Century technology is standard, which it should be for this kind of money. Radiant-heat floors will allow true floor-to-ceiling glass, eliminating the need for baseboards, which could impede views.

All units will come with a touchpad universal control in the foyer to control lighting and temperature. The system can be upgraded to control window treatments, security options and digitally store collections of CDs and DVDs.

Furthermore, unlike the competition down the river, which offers a limited number of interior options to keep the "brand" look consistent, buyers are offered a variety of interior options. Because the builder does interiors as well as architecture and development, buyers are welcome to ask about customization.

"We are flexible," Lassen said. "We are getting buyers who have their own designers and architects."

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Waterview Tower, Chicago

Base-price range: $726,000 to $7,505,000



FACTS AND FIGURES

- One-, two-, three-bedroom condominiums to full-floor penthouses.

- Self-park deeded space, $50,500. Self-park two-car private garage with storage, $150,000.

Unit size: 1,087 to 8,070 square feet.

Monthly assessment: $525 to $5,731.

Developer: Waterview, LLC

Web site: www.waterviewtower.com



AMENITIES

- Nine-foot and 11-foot ceilings; radiant-heated floors; 3-inch- wide oak plank flooring.

- Poliform kitchen cabinets, granite countertops and backsplash, Sub-Zero refrigerators, Miele gas stoves.

- Marble tile floors in bathrooms, Kallista and Kohler fixtures including whirlpool tub in master bath, marble vanity countertop in master bath.



GETTING THERE

Sales center 121 W. Wacker Dr.

Phone: 312-558-9100

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sstangenes@tribune.com

Alliance
Dec 17, 2006, 10:21 PM
Some 21st Century technology is standard, which it should be for this kind of money. Radiant-heat floors will allow true floor-to-ceiling glass, eliminating the need for baseboards, which could impede views

:cool:

dubai 1
Dec 27, 2006, 11:35 PM
new pics ?

brian_b
Dec 27, 2006, 11:38 PM
I walked by the site a day or two ago and from the other side of the street nothing has changed. I'm sure down at the bottom of the hole they are still working, but nothing is happening that warrants more photos.

dubai 1
Dec 27, 2006, 11:46 PM
^^ thanks for the info

BVictor1
Dec 28, 2006, 5:51 AM
new pics ?

Actually, you are in luck. I went out today (12/27/06) and got several updated shots...

The core has now been built up to the upper Wacker drive level. Excavation should begin soon.

http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A4%3B935%7Ffp65%3Dot%3E2335%3D45%3C%3D36%3C%3DXROQDF%3E232364%3A9699%3B%3Bot1lsi

http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A4%3B935%7Ffp67%3Dot%3E2335%3D45%3C%3D36%3C%3DXROQDF%3E232364%3A973687ot1lsi

http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A4%3B935%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2335%3D45%3C%3D36%3C%3DXROQDF%3E232364%3A973684ot1lsi

You can clearly see the lower levels.
http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A4%3B935%7Ffp6%3B%3Dot%3E2335%3D45%3C%3D36%3C%3DXROQDF%3E232364%3A9699%3B%3Aot1lsi

KevinFromTexas
Dec 28, 2006, 8:12 AM
Can someone please post the most current renderings of it? I'd especially like to see that "other" side where the angled wall is.

Jaroslaw
Dec 28, 2006, 2:28 PM
That new photo host is really good, btw! :)

dubai 1
Dec 28, 2006, 2:31 PM
Thank you SOO much BVictor1

BVictor1
Dec 28, 2006, 3:17 PM
That new photo host is really good, btw! :)

I didn't know if you were talking to me about the photo host or not, but I used Walgreens.com :)

King_Cong
Dec 28, 2006, 6:43 PM
so they're building the core now, but when do they start building the rest of the building?
and how far deep does waterview go?

kalmia
Dec 28, 2006, 8:15 PM
I didn't know if you were talking to me about the photo host or not, but I used Walgreens.com :)

I didn't know they allowed hotlinking. Don't they only store the images for a time for you to purchase them? Maybe not.

Here is a picture I upoloaded in May 2006 of a goose along the Chicago river.

http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A57266%7Ffp6%3Enu%3D3236%3E785%3E783%3EWSNRCG%3D32324934%3A2757nu0mrj

Nowhereman1280
Dec 29, 2006, 12:06 AM
http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A57266%7Ffp6%3Enu%3D3236%3E785%3E783%3EWSNRCG%3D32324934%3A2757nu0mrj

^^^Aha! So that's what the angled side of Waterview will look like!

BVictor1
Dec 29, 2006, 1:02 AM
I didn't know they allowed hotlinking. Don't they only store the images for a time for you to purchase them? Maybe not.

Here is a picture I upoloaded in May 2006 of a goose along the Chicago river.

http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A57266%7Ffp6%3Enu%3D3236%3E785%3E783%3EWSNRCG%3D32324934%3A2757nu0mrj

I think that I have a picture of the same goose. It was nesting in front of the Sheraton.

Rocket1
Dec 29, 2006, 6:34 PM
Actually, you are in luck. I went out today (12/27/06) and got several updated shots...

The core has now been built up to the upper Wacker drive level. Excavation should begin soon.

http://images.photo.walgreens.com/348%3A4%3B935%7Ffp65%3Dot%3E2335%3D45%3C%3D36%3C%3DXROQDF%3E232364%3A9699%3B%3Bot1lsi


So will that structure support nearly all the weight of the 1000' building?

If so, it seems less massive than I would have thought necessary.

Pandemonious
Dec 29, 2006, 6:39 PM
So will that structure support nearly all the weight of the 1000' building?

If so, it seems less massive than I would have thought necessary.


The core itself makes up a large portion of the weight of the tower anyway, and it supports itself as well as some of the floor loads, but there will also be internal and perimeter columns to carry/distribute the floor loads. Since this building is reinforced concrete, it looks to have the core and a series of shear walls for resisting wind loads.

dubai 1
Dec 29, 2006, 6:57 PM
does the setback occur at 90m = 295ft

kalmia
Dec 29, 2006, 7:01 PM
So will that structure support nearly all the weight of the 1000' building?

If so, it seems less massive than I would have thought necessary.


It goes pretty deep too.

BVictor1
Dec 29, 2006, 7:57 PM
does the setback occur at 90m = 295ft

The setback occurs at floor 29.

If you go back several pages, you will notice the photos of the floor overview that I posted. You can get a height of the setback floor from there.

BVictor1
Jan 4, 2007, 4:13 AM
View from the 20th floor of 330 North Wabash. Picture was taken 12/27/06

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/509248.jpg

Alliance
Jan 4, 2007, 4:46 PM
Hooray for concrete. :cool:

Nowhereman1280
Jan 5, 2007, 4:08 AM
Umm try hurray for excavation...

Anyone else see that, I think I see more foundation than before exposed on the building next to WV and a backhoe in there. I don't know what else would be going on except them finally excavating the rest of the site...

Bvic am I right or am I just seeing things?

budman
Jan 5, 2007, 3:58 PM
^I think you are right. I was down by the site this week, and it looks like they are beginning excavation next to the LaSalle-Wacker building.

BVictor1
Jan 9, 2007, 12:06 AM
Yes, they have startred the excavation. I was over there earlier, and they are currently working on the east side of the site. They were welding in raker beams. I will try to post something by tomorrow.

SolarWind
Jan 10, 2007, 1:10 AM
January 9, 2007

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/788/dsc0053io9.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6084/dsc0050ip4.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8201/dsc0073bn1.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/319/dsc0074ma4.jpg

Nowhereman1280
Jan 10, 2007, 1:25 AM
Well they are definately digging now...

Wow that is quite the operation, I particularly like that super long backhoe that can lift the dirt all of the way of of the hole/pit. It won't be much longer until this baby really starts to rise! Just 2 or 3 more months and the first floor should be clearly visible, don't you think?

honte
Jan 10, 2007, 2:09 AM
Super-cool shots, Solarwind!

Steely Dan
Jan 10, 2007, 5:04 AM
solarwind, thanks a million for these, and all the other construction shots you posted today.

just think about how much we all long for detailed shots of the births sears and aon and hancock and other notable chicago towers, and they are extremely rare when you come across them, but with the new crop of supertalls, all of you wonderful photographers are ammasssing and excellent visual record of the starts of the new chicago supertowers. these kinds of shots transcend mere skyscraper internet geekery and, upon completion, will constitute a very important historical record for the internet nerds of the future to drool over (if they'll even still have the internet in the future) ;)

Monkey36
Jan 10, 2007, 5:25 PM
solarwind, thanks a million for these, and all the other construction shots you posted today.

just think about how much we all long for detailed shots of the births sears and aon and hancock and other notable chicago towers, and they are extremely rare when you come across them, but with the new crop of supertalls, all of you wonderful photographers are ammasssing and excellent visual record of the starts of the new chicago supertowers. these kinds of shots transcend mere skyscraper internet geekery and, upon completion, will constitute a very important historical record for the internet nerds of the future to drool over (if they'll even still have the internet in the future) ;)

last i heard, the internet was here to stay

SolarWind
Jan 20, 2007, 3:28 AM
January 19, 2007

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8172/dsc0320copyar7.jpg

honte
Jan 20, 2007, 7:17 AM
Once again, Solarwind, thanks a lot.

nomarandlee
Jan 20, 2007, 10:06 AM
Indeed, thanks Solarwind. I love seen your screename knowing they are most likely going to be some juicey pics.

Scruffy
Jan 20, 2007, 10:43 AM
wow, what mighty compact footprint for such heights

Tom Servo
Jan 20, 2007, 10:34 PM
So when can we expect to see this rise? Summer?

MattSal
Jan 21, 2007, 4:44 AM
Indeed, thanks Solarwind. I love seen your screename knowing they are most likely going to be some juicey pics.

They certainly are juicy. Can't wait for more. GROW building GROW!

Btw nice Trey avatar. :yes:

jamesinclair
Jan 21, 2007, 7:36 AM
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/788/dsc0053io9.jpg

How big will the gap bewteen the two buildings be?

Chitown
Jan 21, 2007, 8:32 AM
solarwind, thanks a million for these, and all the other construction shots you posted today.

just think about how much we all long for detailed shots of the births sears and aon and hancock and other notable chicago towers, and they are extremely rare when you come across them, but with the new crop of supertalls, all of you wonderful photographers are ammasssing and excellent visual record of the starts of the new chicago supertowers. these kinds of shots transcend mere skyscraper internet geekery and, upon completion, will constitute a very important historical record for the internet nerds of the future to drool over (if they'll even still have the internet in the future) ;)
Great point! The internet has changed the world in unexpected ways, and this sort of historical record is one of them. The age of information that the internet has provided is truly awesome. 20 years ago, very few people would have any information regarding the building of new skyscrapers in their own city, much less world-wide. Now, not only do people world-wide have access to this information, but it will be preserved for posterity!

BVictor1
Jan 21, 2007, 5:58 PM
How big will the gap bewteen the two buildings be?

Not much. Several feet I believe. There is a small setback I believe on the 2nd or 3rd floor.

jamesinclair
Jan 21, 2007, 8:07 PM
Not much. Several feet I believe. There is a small setback I believe on the 2nd or 3rd floor.

So alot of people in that other building will be looking at a wall now?

Will Waterview have any windows at all on that side?

I feel as if the core should have been on the top left corner, giving maximum floorspace with window (street view) access