[NYC4Life]

Incredible lighting on this tower. Resembles a giant Olympic Flame.

[Rise To The Top]

Yesterday, by Tian Mo

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload13/20081112/sLapNFZDK+nFHAlgDOlrN3w1zWrgvuXD8FpdGdTkOZwnvcc2j3HKijw==.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload13/20081112/sjX026LfH7kcZaq9zaPw6iFlNhEMJDbDYfFwkO_YUcOvfhDsG6x3eRw==.jpg

[JACKinBeantown]

^ yep, which in turn was based on the Sydney Tower 1981

http://acetoursindia.com/images/upload/2022_PackageItinerary_sydneyTower.jpg


...in turn based on Kobe Port Tower, Japan 1963. I think this one's the original

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Kobe_port_tower11s3200.jpg/401px-Kobe_port_tower11s3200.jpg



Watts Towers - 1921-1955

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/spencerreyes/WATTS_____________TOwerS.jpg

(photo by Spencer Reyes?)

[slide_rule]

^the first hyperboloid structures were the work of vladimir shukhov. other architects of the time experimented with the hyperboloid structure, but shukhov's are generally the most structurally pure.

i LOVE the hyperboloid structures. maybe because they actually make sense, and do not require all sorts of marketing to make them fashionable? they're structurally efficient, but difficult to construct.

[NYC4Life]

Looks like giant spiral christmas trees.

[M II A II R II K]

November 15 - Source skyscrapers.cn



http://i.namipan.com/files/0074c08878ea157dc9d01767406719a308959c6c0ad902000d36/0/DSC_0004.jpg

[JDRCRASH]

Looks like giant spiral christmas trees.

Indeed; Watts towers are artistic needles rising out of the boring sprawl of Los Angeles.

[TANGELD_SLC]

WOW this thing just popped up outta nowhere, didn't it? I think it looks great so far, I just hope they plan on keeping it well lit at night.

[staff]

By fangyuzhu1983
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5349/gz2vj4.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7425/gz5rv2.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6187/gz4xa0.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1968/gz7da0.jpg

West Tower (and CITIC Plaza) in the background
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6885/gz9ep1.jpg

[MapleLeaf]

Holy shit! This is tall! :worship:

[bbeliko]

Watts Towers - 1921-1955

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/spencerreyes/WATTS_____________TOwerS.jpg

(photo by Spencer Reyes?)
Which came from this:
1886
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/First_Shukhov_Tower_Nizhny_Novgorod_1896.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:First_Shukhov_Tower_Nizhny_Novgorod_1896.jpg

[JDRCRASH]

^Damn....thats old..

[NYC4Life]

Pretty modern looking for its day.

[bbeliko]

Of all the cities with supertalls U/C i think GUANGZHOU is getting the best looking ones.

[kfunck1]

Those last few pictures are incredible. Thanks :worship:

[sw5710]

What is the topping out date?

[Scruffy]

AWESOME!!! favorite structure going up in china right now!

[NYC4Life]

A tall version of Beijing's bird's nest.

[muppet]

skyscraperpage.com

panorama
http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/sYch7OmU2pSDOIl5spA2hdBxzsLPsOrF3glGrupKOTkleTizgagOIBQ==.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/sV_aAij3NMQisqnXZu9Nz6NpU8kKmWQ3sP9k6GgefxtaCEDXnL+Mfhg==.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/sZBLRUGJObvpSswoOR8MTgw_IhTZEDEwq5rWsgIeSf6UtOpl59m3gxg==.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/s7GDa91Gb7iMXYltNBIOpoJR4xyAQjAWDR8O63OfdwULycMKW0LXGcQ==.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/sfaE7rWld074EtTpkRxOTtlUpfHoTBqtAr0BRaHXOLnAmHZ8EvU+ODA==.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/sPHE6jnPmgrk7IVRrXrizKCtZjnHEXEPGYqyuSmSvontYv+FEHMo6sQ==.jpg

[Bergenser]

What a landmark to visit. :)

[Jonovision]

Looking great! But I thought it would look skinnier.

[muppet]

It looks skinnier depending on the angle you look at it. As you approach the thing it will slim down considerably:

wide
http://bp2.blogger.com/_BFXwZoCVGbQ/RtYDrRNl4TI/AAAAAAAAAoo/Eksx8MHyheY/s1600/guangzhou%2Btv%2Btower%2B11.jpg

thinner
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/958_1_1000%20IBA-bv%20Guangzhou%201.jpg

teensy
http://www.chinese-architecture.info/CA/AC_Tower4_jpg.jpg

[muppet]

Ive just noticed too the open air viewing platform on the roof:

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1561/wwwtvtowernm1.jpg

[KingKrunch]

Here's a different rendering of the roof that appeared on SSC (I don't know whether this one or the one posted by muppet is the final design):
http://www.e-architect.co.uk/guangzhou/jpgs/guangzhou_tv_tower_iba141108_9.jpg

[MapleLeaf]

Just this small balustrade at 454m? :koko:

[[SP]Neo]

even at 15m this balustrade would be too small^^ but i like the idea of the open air space.

[staff]

Testing out the lighting scheme;

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/sYch7OmU2pSDOIl5spA2hdBxzsLPsOrF3glGrupKOTkleTizgagOIBQ==.jpg

[GerardInMTL]

Testing out the lighting scheme;

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090103/sYch7OmU2pSDOIl5spA2hdBxzsLPsOrF3glGrupKOTkleTizgagOIBQ==.jpg

amazing picture i can't wait to see it complete

[gonard]

I like what I see so far, I hope they keep the rooftop open as in the renderings. Although it could become a prime destination for laid off factory workers looking for an easy way out.

[theWatusi]

I'm sure a taller fence at the top is in order

[Bergenser]

It looks Freaking good in that picture. :D

[Complex01]

The tower looks amazing in that picture. Wow i really like it. Cant wait to see it all lit up at night. Very Nice...

:yes:

[muppet]

tian, www.xitek.com
http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/03D20EF0.002C

forum.xinhua.net
http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/03D210CB.002C

bbs.px.online.com.cn
http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/03D20B92.002C

[giallo]

Bad ass!

[muppet]

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/03D20B92.002C

^notice how skinny it looks from the angle in the last pic, compared to these:

Feb 24 from skyscrapers.cn
http://i.namipan.com/files/00b9a7b1889caec22ba3f2da03fc2679882b4a87623f02008ab0/0/S6305446.JPG

http://i.namipan.com/files/b06d79c68ef4fec6cac7da8f8abfea4bd5c9a71033560200810a/0/S6305447.jpg

http://i.namipan.com/files/62f09da1ef5bba0d54a397654dba9ae62c81f22bf6df0200be5f/0/S6305449.JPG

http://i.namipan.com/files/7abbfa6419f601e9a4a3f67b7abe579d36546d5a4f5605008dcb/0/S6305453.JPG

[Aleks]

Woah! Looks amazing! When will they start painting/covering the columns so that they looks shiny and cool?

[Stu]

Has it been confirmed they will paint the columns? Seems excessive/ not worth it.

[muppet]

I don't think they'll paint them, just clean them from the construction grit.

[Gava]

Woah! Looks amazing! When will they start painting/covering the columns so that they looks shiny and cool?

The only way to keep that tower shiny would be to hire an army of cleaners that continously battle the buildup of dirt from smog and pollution.

[Indescribable]

It sure is gritty.

[muppet]

2.26 from skyscrapers.cn

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_023.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_028.jpg

Guangzhou's other supertall will one day form an axis with the new supertalls

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_029.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_031.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_032.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_026.jpg

[muppet]

the CBD Plan 2012, view from above the TV Tower


on the left at bottom is the new Opera House by Zaha Hadid, on the right the Guangzhou Museum

http://static.flickr.com/59/190673746_c5e1aedd22_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/73/190673744_f6da863a13_o.jpg



By zdf2118
http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20080907/17/44465755200809071702032976209124162_008.jpg

the TV Tower will anchor the massive axis from the other side of the river

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20080907/17/44465755200809071702032976209124162_005.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20080907/17/44465755200809071702032976209124162_004.jpg

last year
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/160/032dca7ekg3.jpg

[muppet]

the cladding for the interiors (behind the struts) is starting to go up now:


http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload13/20090227/sKxOSizOM9eifA3cBHFjN2WPI6Z3Yj2Gft7bMewOmQ5+YUN2Viyox1w==.jpg
tian, www.skyscrapercity.com

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload13/20090227/sopAeLDBumpPl6WoGLsPJ+u9Z_Eg+hDlTA_BTT0XAoHrbcRDxA4fzBg==.jpg


some more pix

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_009.jpg
Feb 26 From skyscraper.cn


Guangzhou's 3 current supertalls (there will be 9 on this axis by 2012)

http://i.namipan.com/files/cc88d17ab7b65353883a4ac02fe14a92e254fe8adea8000058af/0/%E5%A4%8D%E5%88%B6%20DSCN05652.jpg
Feb 26 From skyscraper.cn

[Aleks]

:omg: Guangzhou is such a cool city! Those skyscrapers are amazing [U/C] and many of those proposed will make the city even better! The Guangzhou TV Tower and Twin Towers were a match-made-in-heaven!

I'm so jealous I can't travel there by myself [everyone I know wants to go to like Cancun and Miami but not Guangzhou, and I'm just like "what? You don't wanna go to Guangzhou", and they look at me like, "wtf is a Guangzhou?"]

Look at the scaffolding in this picture (http://i.namipan.com/files/cc88d17ab7b65353883a4ac02fe14a92e254fe8adea8000058af/0/%E5%A4%8D%E5%88%B6%20DSCN05652.jpg)!

[malec]

From today

3.29 from skyscrapers.cn
http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_031.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_024.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_025.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_017.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_020.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_019.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_000.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_016.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_030.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_015.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_032.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_010.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_028.jpg

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_026.jpg
this is Liede bridge, looks they started to paint it

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090329/21/52312343200903292130421618190066504_013.jpg
this is opera house

[wrab]

2.26 from skyscrapers.cn

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_023.jpg

What a fantastic compliment these two towers make to each other - one skinny in the middle and wide at the ends, the other wide in the middle and skinny at the ends.

[Aleks]

Looks awesome! I don't really like the antenna that much. Something thinner, like a needle would've looked better. But the tower is stunning!

[Indescribable]

Is there some sort of intentional symbolism behind those axis'?

[QuarterMileSidewalk]

The superstructure of the tower is also to recieve cladding, yes?

I just love the ingenious simplicity of the design! It looks like a handful of sticks bundled together.

[excel]

amazing.

[Indescribable]

Wow its hard to tell there's even cladding in there.

[muppet]

Is there some sort of intentional symbolism behind those axis'?

most Chinese cities have axes, ever since the days of ancient Xian 2,200 years ago, the Eastern counterpart to Rome and later, the worlds biggest city of its time. Basically the grid plan there, bisected by vast central roads, some of them 700 feet wide, gave birth to similar city plans in new capitals of Beijing, Nara, Kyoto, Seoul etc. It was intended to compartmentalise and make logical the city, act as firebreaks and keep the population in check. Today we can see the modern day grid plans across the world. In China these main avenues once leading to the city gates ,and connecting the central palaces, have become the meridians and axes.


map of ancient Xian (Chang'an) about 8th century AD, population 1 million
http://lh6.google.com/tessellar/RvVEMA_oMQI/AAAAAAAACYA/XcV_vey10sU/s800/Chang%20an%20birds%20eye%20view.jpg
www.tslr.net

Guangzhou has lost much of its grid plan, but modern day Beijing still has it,
and its historic central axes

http://www.chinaasc.org/apec/images/cg26.jpg
www.chinaasc.org

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Beijing_SPOT_1059.jpg
www.wikimedia.org

Guangzhou is an ancient city, also about 2,200 years old. I'm not sure this axis echoes an earlier one though.

[photoLith]

I very much doubt that even 30 years ago people would think that Chinese cities would have some of the worlds tallest buildings in them.

[KevinFromTexas]

Amazing skyline views from the hills. Pretty scenery too.

[howardroark]

Come to think of it. I would of liked to see floorspace throughout the whole structure. What's the point of putting floors here, and there, and maybe here?

[Rise To The Top]

Come to think of it. I would of liked to see floorspace throughout the whole structure. What's the point of putting floors here, and there, and maybe here?

Some of the floors are movie theaters, observatories, restaurants, gardens, etc.

[QuarterMileSidewalk]

:previous:
:previous:

I think the point was to make it a very tall cultural center, of sorts. If you have to build a big TV tower, why not do it with some style, and throw in some revenue-generating functions as well? But not a full office tower, especially not with that design. the floors would be too small, especially in the middle, for efficient office spaces, and probably for even small residences, too. It's sort of Guangzhou's Modern Eiffel Tower (which is over 300m tall, with a total of about 3 floors).

[Palm-Sky]

I think It high more than CN tower 57m

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3419649242_3bbaa19b19_b.jpg

[Chitown]

I very much doubt that even 30 years ago people would think that Chinese cities would have some of the worlds tallest buildings in them.
Indeed. At the rate China is now growing, I'm already prepared to welcome our Chinese overlords.

[Complex01]

Nice pics. I always like coming and seeing this tower. Its so kewl...

:tup:

[malec]

Updates

i appologise. i does look like its 520m now. i just scaled this pic
also it seems to have yet another section of red/white antenna on top.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3449928641_4b408d687b_b.jpg

[muppet]

spire rising:

http://image211.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090226/23/44648319200902262307232164260251417_009.jpg
http://poco.cn

[muppet]

we have a new tallest unsupported tower! The mast has just been hoisted up, at 2000ft:

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090426/sSgs6cFTxPxYTafpC0L8h9YVGHfv8wravPzaRuHxrBPyqc_VAr9Bq0Q==.jpg http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090424/skFGQK0WRgQkrvbsWDKIFKj8LCl8Kt8UECNYkQG++xMdew+HmV_UOOA==.jpg
http://photo1.bababian.com

[Indescribable]

The red and white is going to be covered no?

[Aleks]

I really hope the spire looks better than this. I was hoping for a thin, sleek, shiny spire. The main tower still looks amazing thought and the construction period was pretty fast as well. One of the most original towers of "our" time.

[muppet]

I reckon the red and white's staying - at that height it must act as a visibility beacon to aircraft

http://www.shareyourride.net/images/Coming_to_Canada_Guidelines_for_Visitors/CN_Tower_Toronto.jpg

[Vanzetti]

I reckon the red and white's staying - at that height it must act as a visibility beacon to aircraft



Why isn`t Burj Dubai painted red and white?

[muppet]

because its not statutary law there?:shrug:

or maybe red/ white denotes radio masts?

http://www.waniewski.de/4dc855c0.jpg

more red n white pornage:

http://www.easytourchina.com/china-photos/Shanghai/Oriental-Pearl-Tower/images/Oriental%20Pearl%20Tower3.jpg

There are 4 in the last pic
http://www.bookhostelbook.com/country_info/asia/japan/Kobe_book_Kobe_Japan_hostel/kobe.jpg http://www.tokyoarchitecture.info/Images/Buildings/Shiba-Koen/TokyoTower-001.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3346177466_aebeb0b56f.jpg

[malec]

I doubt that is the final height of the antenna. Won't they be jacking it up like the burj dubai spire?
For example it looks like it should go higher according to this model

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/digitalfans/guangzhou%20tv%20tower/0231FF43.jpg

[Aleks]

I don't think it'll get taller. Right? It might just be the impression because of the surrounding construction equipment, the scaffolding, etc, etc... I could be wrong/ I did see something wrong with that spire and like I said, something sleeker would've been better.

[Complex01]

Wow looks kewl. I really love this tower, i want one, he he...

[malec]

Updates

From skyscrapers.cn May 20
http://image155.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090520/20/52625682200905202039583626363246534_001.jpg

http://image155.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090520/20/52625682200905202039583626363246534_002.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090521/sz6m81IrotO6gXduQbyq35dSqST8JrIw4RgQv6WkVorWb7A1yoWBntQ==.jpg

http://photo1.bababian.com/usr553405/upload15/20090521/s+TLlakeT+x2yw2lwUmWdoaSwVJaJ5nIzdhG9bzqR6V5iUbPvHm+ivg==.jpg

[Aleks]

Those two last pictures are wayy to over exposed. But they're good and that last one shows us a great view of both supertalls going up.

[muppet]

top http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3565923263_621c3e48ab_o.jpg
www.flickr.com

[Aleks]

Are those balls supposed to carry people all around?!?!

[kenratboy]

Are those balls supposed to carry people all around?!?!

I am going to have to say...YES!

[muppet]

skyscrapers.cn, cantontower

http://i.namipan.com/files/61d3e374b021192c21c168b7522c8e5831bcb22c05830100caf9/0/1.jpg

http://i.namipan.com/files/7e335126fe9991716c20d1d9674c5ebda095bf1688400100cd3f/0/1.jpg

http://image155.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20090527/23/52698820200905272300083691078007619_076.jpg

[muppet]

Skyscrapers.cn June 4
http://bbs.dahe.cn/bbs/attachments/day_090604/20090604_ebbcc1ac0b8c581125a30YzbFINE4KjG.jpg

http://bbs.dahe.cn/bbs/attachments/day_090605/20090605_7b49011f16d0f53ee96dtgVwNAUx2gdU.jpg

http://bbs.dahe.cn/bbs/attachments/day_090605/20090605_7fce0c8e7bce755d0079EaxrXiuDy8Ge.jpg

http://bbs.dahe.cn/bbs/attachments/day_090605/20090605_fb4c9c516f72ed38ee08c7oTQrPVqxRn.jpg

http://i.namipan.com/files/3f5da2d90176151cf4f5e08262e6e36ec77e2f423ace0100a64e/0/1.jpg
June 5th from www.skyscrapers.cn

http://i.namipan.com/files/e69b1103551865a418ef565a0cdd2fe2bcef716b013102005a4c/0/1.jpg

[giallo]

I so badly wanted to get some good pictures of this tower last weekwnd, but the weather was the worse.
Anyway, it looks great in the sunlight.

[Aleks]

That first picture is wonderful! And I still don't see much work being done on the framework. Will they paint it? Just clean it? I hope that the final product looks better.

[Vancouver_Highrise]

Im not that big of a fan of this one... It's unique but there's something about it.. especially with the red and white spire part:shrug:

[malec]

Some nice recent pictures

June 10 from Skyscrapers.cn
http://photo2.bababian.com/usr553405/upload2/20090610/sras2_LBoMahf6mwOTPPyVLDApOJ2xZo293oxyzhFVuWXF7htpZX4Ug==.jpg

http://photo2.bababian.com/usr553405/upload2/20090610/sZy02Kc5Y2HRI9PXBL+o+gxZrU3F57flHs4VE3b3jBcZgv3ZKvc1Z6g==.jpg

http://photo2.bababian.com/usr553405/upload2/20090610/saiZj9r0+3DuzhtX9YdP8XMVoPqDAJ2K4TgTcejqPKVu9KabaGFdXaA==.jpg

http://photo2.bababian.com/usr553405/upload2/20090610/s2PBEDBgx3x5RcuT1s2O8EyexHIfgV3svtgjaxSVFeddk+BxJBLULsA==.jpg


More on SSC:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=410003&page=140

[Aleks]

That first picture is amazing!

[muppet]

new angle, first pic from the bottom

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3324/3501565804_a06638c600_o.jpg
BenKen

[Indescribable]

Not sure what to make of this one.

[Aleks]

It's pretty much indescribable.

Awesome picture btw!

[Lecom]

Iconic.

[JACKinBeantown]

I like it. Too bad about the red and white stripes on the antenna. I'm sure it's a legal thing but it messes up the clean flow of an otherwise all white spirally thingy.

[gnmpf74]

Nice angle!

[muppet]

presenting the world's tallest tv tower

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/041B810A.002C
http://bbs.home.news.cn

[JDRCRASH]

:omg:

[giallo]

goddamn

[HomeInMyShoes]

Indeed. I need to travel to a city with large buildings. I'm often having trouble conceptualizing the scale of these things.

[Seve]

The picture up there is great.

I pretty much hate all TV towers, but I have to say, with this and the Tokyo Sky tree, I am beginning to like them. I have seen this in person when my train was passing through Guangzhou, I was very impressed.

[Complex01]

I love it. It really is a beauty of a tower. That last picture is awesome. I will see this tower in person one day...

:yes:

[gnmpf74]

Nearly all TV towers look like each other, but this one is a beauty!

[Indescribable]

Are they doing something to the facade near the top of that last picture?

[muppet]

do you mean the tv tower? There are buildings behind the lattice if that's what you mean. The tower still needs to be painted and cleaned.

[staff]

Holy fuck. I missed this picture;

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3324/3501565804_a06638c600_o.jpg

[crow]

wow!