[Kevin_foster]

hahaha

Winnipeg is IN FOR IT NEXT!

[IntotheWest]

^ ITW has a... special ... way of reasoning :D


Show all the pics you want of +35 in TO...I've lived it too, and I find it a terrible way to spend summer. I didn't say it can't be endured (or enjoyed?) Do I prefer -35c? No, that wasn't my point...I think both are quite terrible.

However, Calgary rarely sees -35c - while +35c (with humidex into the 40s, and smog warnings) is common in the TO area.

Calgary's average highs in the winter months are about the same as TOs...no special way of reasoning there.

[Greco Roman]

hahaha

Winnipeg is IN FOR IT NEXT!

Maybe, but right now they are 4oC with NO SNOW on the ground. Meanwhile, E-town is a miserable -19oC with a windchill of -32.

[Maldive]

Sorry fellow Canadian (assuming you are not newly minted Quebecois)...

But I've had 3 cancellations of my golf games in CAL... in September!!

Sorry. True.

Get over it. You have exponential growth... and Alberta weather.

[Blitz]

Show all the pics you want of +35 in TO...I've lived it too, and I find it a terrible way to spend summer. I didn't say it can't be endured (or enjoyed?) Do I prefer -35c? No, that wasn't my point...I think both are quite terrible.

However, Calgary rarely sees -35c - while +35c (with humidex into the 40s, and smog warnings) is common in the TO area.

Calgary's average highs in the winter months are about the same as TOs...no special way of reasoning there.


Toronto see +35 about the same amount that Calgary sees -35. In Toronto, it never ever snows in May or September, like it can in Calgary.

[drew]

^ or June or July...

[theUSUALsuspect]

Calgary's average highs in the winter months are about the same as TOs...no special way of reasoning there.

Looking at the data available, and factoring in 95% reliability and variations due to the jet stream and la Nina ;)

Yes, Toronto average daily highs have a slight edge over Calgary in winter months of Dec-Feb, but the daily highs are only reached for a few hours during the afternoon generally.

However, what makes a Calgary winter colder on average than Toronto is Calgary's average daily lows. For example - in Nov the average Calgary low is -9c and the average Toronto low is +2c - that's an 11c degree difference!

Also, Calgary has a longer period of winter temperatures, 5 months (Nov to Mar) of daily average temperatures below freezing. Compared to only 3 months in Toronto - Dec to Feb.

The prairies are known for their longer AND colder winters across Canada. And it just a fact.

It's not that bad either, you can get used to a prairie winter just like you can Mexican heat :D

[IntotheWest]

The prairies are known for their longer AND colder winters across Canada. And it just a fact.


Yep, very true...Calgary's and Winnipeg's weather is very similar - being Prairie cities of course.

[theUSUALsuspect]

Yep, very true...Calgary's and Winnipeg's weather is very similar - being Prairie cities of course.


Exactly, relatively speaking of North America, both have 5-6 months of regular below freezing temps - although Calgary gets several Chinook breaks to lift their averages a little higher I'm sure.

Wouldn't Winnipeg have a warmer spring and fall though? Due to Calgary being at such a high elevation.

[IntotheWest]

Exactly, relatively speaking of North America, both have 5-6 months of regular below freezing temps - although Calgary gets several Chinook breaks to lift their averages a little higher I'm sure.

Wouldn't Winnipeg have a warmer spring and fall though? Due to Calgary being at such a high elevation.

Good point. I mean now that it's down to -15c (and technically still Fall), we'll probably stay at least this temperature until late April...maybe May.

On average I think we get one, maybe two Chinooks a year...and who knows how long those will last - maybe a couple hours each?

[MonkeyRonin]

Bah, +35 isn't bad ;)

In fact, I'd much prefer that to anything below -5. -10 max, otherwise I don't go outside (well, as little as possible anyway).

[cornholio]

+35 takes a much biger toll on your health and body then -5 does.

[drew]

Wouldn't Winnipeg have a warmer spring and fall though? Due to Calgary being at such a high elevation.

Calgary on average has a more moderate climate in all seasons compared to Winnipeg.

I think one the major difference between Winnipeg and Calgary is the "stability" of the seasons.

In Winnipeg, winter is winter, and summer is summer - it is never (usually) unseasonably warm or cold when it shouldn't be.

[Greco Roman]

IM(Biased)O, Manitoba has one of the most beautiful summers in Canada. Not terribly dry, sultery summer nights, and sooooooooooo many lakes. I am missing it already :(

[caltrane74]

Toronto is gonna be mild all week long. Right until the Beginning of December.

Not unusual, for this time of year, our norm is around 3-5 degree C. But Still.

I think it should be a little bit colder for the end of November.

[vanman]

The same way you deal with the rain...really. I spent the last two winters in Vancouver - and couldn't take it. The first month I was there, I didn't think I'd ever see dry roads. The rain/drizzle/lack of sun is a big downer - and far more constant than a cold snap in Calgary.

The winter flowers were nice though :)


To each his own

[fishy]

snowed in SFU today

[Taller Better]

Show all the pics you want of +35 in TO...I've lived it too, and I find it a terrible way to spend summer. I didn't say it can't be endured (or enjoyed?) Do I prefer -35c? No, that wasn't my point...I think both are quite terrible.

However, Calgary rarely sees -35c - while +35c (with humidex into the 40s, and smog warnings) is common in the TO area.

Calgary's average highs in the winter months are about the same as TOs...no special way of reasoning there.


Each to his/her own. I'm happier with this climate and you appear to be happier with yours. I find 35C too hot, and it is uncomfortable, but I find -35C and normally a blinding wind to be insanely cruel. Not even in the same ballpark of uncomfortable-ness. For example, I am going to St. Lucia for vacation in January, and I will not complain if if is +35C. If I wanted cold, I'd go to Ellis Island! :D In fact I would guess that most Canadians flying south for a beach holiday prefer 35C to -35c or they would not budge from home. As has been pointed out, Calgary's average daily temps are lower than Toronto as it gets colder at night. Being on a lake here does moderate temperatures somewhat, and we are further south, too. On a map, you will see Toronto and Nice are on the same parallel.
I find the winters here are even too long, and too cold, but I love the change of seasons. Do you Calgarians mind the rapid barometric change when a Chinook moves in? Do any of you get headaches from it?

[Coldrsx]

in van right now and it is nice and warm compared to edmonchuk but i see a -11 next week in van.......i dont recall it ever getting that cold ever HAHHAHAHA....time to shut down the schools.

[Hardhatdan]

Its f****** freezing outside with the wind. How is there wind when its this cold? Its at least usually calm out.

[dubiousmike]

I guess I'm not getting out much this weekend.

Curse you, arctic airmass.

[samne]

someone want to rake the leaves in my backyard?

yesterday.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/thetoucansam/Danforthcalvalcade.jpg?t=1164461719

[Taller Better]

[QUOTE=Coldrsx] but i see a -11 next week in van [QUOTE]


Oh, that can't be good. When it gets that cold out west, you just know it is
eventually going to work its way East and hit us with a wallop. Uggh.. it is too early. Coldest I ever saw in Vancouver was -15c one winter visit. That came close to killing the Chinese Windmill palms.

[IntotheWest]

^It was below -10c last winter at least a couple days (January I believe...2005).

Yes, it's -19c in Calgary this morning, and we'll likely be -35c for the next 1-2 months (at least at night). Very common. We'll be lucky to see a Chinook in January, but again, who knows how long it will last. Again, almost an exact copy to Winnipeg's weather throughout winter - except they likely won't feel the Chinook in January (if it comes at all).

I think -15c is the average high for this time of year (might be off a couple degrees though).

Yes, while quite a few Calgarians fly south during the winter to escape the cold, the ski hills in the mountains become quite dead because of the constant -35c (and wind...brrrr).

Hopefully we'll get above 0c by May or June so we can go golfing again for a couple months...you know, before we start feeling that winter chill that happens almost right after Labour day (that sucks!).

[samne]

Hopefully we'll get above 0c by May or June so we can go golfing again for a couple months...you know, before we start feeling that winter chill that happens almost right after Labour day

you cant be serious? this cant be it for 6 months?

[Taller Better]

you cant be serious? this cant be it for 6 months?

He is a bit bitter because it is -20c in Calgary this morning, so that was all an extremely heavy-handed attempt at sarcasm (he is a bit "sensitive" about the weather issue in Calgary). Look, weather is what it is. No point losing sleep over it. Winter comes and it is cold. All over Canada. Period. No place is exactly Florida-like in this country.


"^It was below -10c last winter at least a couple days (January I believe...2005)."

Are you talking about Toronto? Of course it was below -10C last year. It gets below -10C every year, and usually at least a day or two at -15C and even as low as -20C on an extremely cold winter. This "ain't no Tropical Paradise".

[IntotheWest]

It was below -10c last winter at least a couple days (January I believe...2005)

I'm talking about Vancouver.

[DrJoe]

Are you talking about Toronto? Of course it was below -10C last year. It gets below -10C every year, and usually at least a day or two at -15C and even as low as -20C on an extremely cold winter. This "ain't no Tropical Paradise".

The coldest high we had last winter was -9.4, which is downright balming compared to the high of -23 in Calgary today. That is insanely cold and it's NOVEMBER, what the hell.

Although you are right most years Toronto has a cold snap where it goes -20 at night or something.

[IntotheWest]

you cant be serious? this cant be it for 6 months?

Pretty close. Flowers typically die the first week of September, and it's quite likely that we get our first snow at the same time (as happened this year)...if we don't see snow sooner in July/August (which does happen too). It's also common fact that planting flowers before mid to late June is not a smart idea.

As the folks on this thread from Vic and TO point out, it's actually the most inhospitable climates in Canada...from Winnipeg to Calgary is mostly the same cold - at least 10-20 degrees colder than what happens out east for the winter, and roughly 30 degrees colder than what they usually get on the tropical-like west coast.

[Taller Better]

I'm talking about Vancouver.

Yeah, it is not uncommon to dip that low in Vancouver and they normally get snow once or twice a winter.. but November is awfully early for -11c in Vancouver.




Although you are right most years Toronto has a cold snap where it goes -20 at night or something.

I hate those cold snaps, but my dogs just love it! They sit on the balcony.

[someone123]

These are the average "extreme" lows on a given year:
http://www.raintreenursery.com/images/content/usda_hardiness.jpg

Vancouver is in the 0-10F range, which is around -12 to -17. That is not very warm. Average annual snowfall amounts in the Vancouver area are also 40 cm+.

I think Vancouver's winters are the best in the country, excluding Vancouver Island, but they are not really as temperate as people think, at least on average (every place in Canada has exceptionally warm years, and they're factored into the averages anyway). The winter days are also short and dark.

[Taller Better]

It is all relative. A lot of people in Vancouver have moved there from the Prairies, so it truly is
going to seem like LotusLand for them. If you move from Mexico, it will not.

[samne]

cool map.

looks like Toronto sneaks into Zone 6. You can see the "lake effect" from the other side of L. Ontario, NY.

Same with Windsor area, around L. St. Clair.

[IntotheWest]

On a map, you will see Toronto and Nice are on the same parallel.

Don't flatter yourself...so are many other Asian cities. In fact, Shenyang is further south in China, and colder.

[IntotheWest]

It is all relative. A lot of people in Vancouver have moved there from the Prairies.

Heck, moving from "the prairies" to anywhere in Canada is going to seem tropical!

[LordMandeep]

Toronto stays warm, however a hot summer day is quite terribile as well.

[flar]

Toronto doesn't quite make zone 6 on that map. There are significant local variations in weather though. I grew up around Lake St. Clair, where it rains as often as it snows in winter. Later when I moved to London, winter hit me like a brick wall--colder and way more snow. Locally the "snow belt" started north of a line from Sarnia to London. People called the areas of Kent and Essex counties the "banana belt".

[feepa]

Eat it Vancouver

Greater Vancouver
10:28 AM PST Saturday 25 November 2006
Snowfall warning for
Greater Vancouver issued

20 to 30 cm of snow expected by Sunday evening.



A strengthening Arctic ridge over the northern interior is pushing cold Arctic air up against the east slopes of the north and central coast mountains. Strong outflow winds have developed through the valleys and inlets as the Arctic air rushes through the gaps towards the coast. As the high continues to strengthen winds will increase and temperatures will continue to fall resulting in windchills in the minus 20 to minus 30 range by this afternoon over the north coast and minus 20 by this evening over the central coast. These conditions are expected to persist for several days.

The Arctic air is making its way through the valleys of the south coast and will arrive in the Lower Mainland by Sunday morning. An intensifying low over the pacific will approach Washington state Sunday morning. The moisture associated with the low will interact with the Arctic air giving significant snowfall for much of the south coast beginning tonight. 20 to 30 cm of snow is expected by Sunday evening.



Mind you, it will prolly all melt soon

[CMD UW]

/\ still, that's harsh!

Enjoy coldrsx!

[Coldrsx]

/\ still, that's harsh!

Enjoy coldrsx!


yah yah yah...


that sad playground crash in van yesterday made me laugh when the reporter said "road conditions were poor as it just rained"...:sly:

but still a terrible accident.

[IntotheWest]

yah yah yah...


that sad playground crash in van yesterday made me laugh when the reporter said "road conditions were poor as it just rained"...:sly:


But when it hits below 0c with all that rain (and hills), the roads become about the worst in Canada - and there's nothing Van can do except wait for it to melt.

[Taller Better]

Don't flatter yourself...so are many other Asian cities. In fact, Shenyang is further south in China, and colder.


"Don't flatter yourself"???!! How old are you? Ten?:rolleyes: Do you really believe that being further south does not affect the intensity of the sun and make it warmer? I wouldn't advise that you continue down your path of trying to start an East vs West fistfight, IntotheWest.

[Maldive]

http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/forecast/canada/index_e.html?id=ONhttp://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/forecast/canada/index_e.html?id=ON

CALGARY -25C

TORONTO + 9C


I think even Environment Canada is mandated to make Toronto's weather seem less inviting ... 9 times out of 10 they are wrong and local forecast is better (paranoid??? Yes sir!).

The local forecast is actually +13/14 C and then the federal government deducts 5 degrees, kinda like our tax situation. ;-)

I wonder how many countries in the world can offer up a 40 degree C spread between major cities (Calgary/Toronto) on a given day??

[Taller Better]

I think the party will be over around Dec 01, when cold air reaches us. So far nothing horrendous looking, but a good deal colder than it has been. There is usually colder weather around this time of year when we reach a new moon ( and there is a new moon at the end of this month).

[dubiousmike]

I just took a walk to the coffeeshop and my boogers froze.

[IntotheWest]

Do you really believe that being further south does not affect the intensity of the sun and make it warmer? I wouldn't advise that you continue down your path of trying to start an East vs West fistfight, IntotheWest.

Not making it a west vs east thing...I don't think I ever said the weather can't get bad out in AB, of course it does - and generally, we're the first to poke fun at it (as the one who started this thread is from Edm!).

However, there are far more variables in play than just being "further south" - as I was pointing out with the Asian cities example. As I tried to explain (maybe you missed it?), the reason the prairies will get colder than most places out east is because of the positioning of the arctic vortex, and the direct hit the prairies takes from its winds...which will then move east - along with any Pacific jetstream that will lessen its affects.

However, Calgary sits better protected from these winds, and also benefits from the rush of warm air off the Pacific between Vancouver to Northern California (a.k.a. "Chinooks"). We've had between -30c and -35c (for lows) less than 10 times in the last 4 winters...so it's not that common. The -20c we're seeing now is however, but can happen for a couple weeks anytime between Nov and Apr...this year, its sooner rather than later :)

Here are the average highs for the last 5 winters (excuse the spacing problem), from months Nov-Mar. You'll notice the large difference between Calgary and Wpg - both on the "Prairies":


2005/2006

Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar

To 9.3 -0.7 3.8 0.0 5.9
Cal 6.1 1.0 5.0 1.2 0.3
Wpg 1.5 -5.4 -3.3 -10.2 -1.5

2004/2005

TO 9.2 1.2 -2.8 0.2 2.6
Cal 7.8 1.4 -2.7 3.2 6.3
Wpg 4.6 -8.3 -13.9 -7.7 -2.1

2003/2004

TO 8.4 3.2 -5.2 0.5 6.1
Cal 0.1 0.9 -6.0 3.1 8.8
Wpg -2.7 -4.8 -16.3 -6.7 -0.4

2002/2003

TO 6.6 1.7 -4.2 -2.4 4.6
Cal 8.4 3.5 0.2 -1.9 1.1
Wpg -1.1 -4.3 -10.8 -13 -2.3

2001/2002

TO 11.3 5.1 2.7 2.9 4.8
Cal 6.0 -1.9 -0.4 3.2 -6.9
Wpg 5.7 -5.4 -9.8 -4.2 -6.1

[Taller Better]

I'm aware of all that, IntheWest, and I don't know why you keep going on about Winnipeg and Calgary. Everyone knows that Calgary has a milder climate than Winnipeg and I never insinuated that they were even similar. But it is also a known fact that the further South you go toward the Equator, the more intense the sun gets. That is unavoidable, and is a contributing factor to milder weather. Windsor, Ontario is milder than Toronto; Cincinnati is milder than Windsor, and so on. Anyone who has driven to Florida or California will understand what I am saying. I was not "flattering" myself pointing out the latitude issue; it was merely stating a fact. The southern tip of Ontario is in line with Northern California. No matter how warm an air mass is over London, England, the sun will never be as intense as the sunshine in Toronto. As Canadians, we enjoy teasing each other about crappy Winter weather, but in reality it is a case of "The Pot calling the Kettle black". None of us gets wonderful Winter weather, and the foul stuff will be reaching us very soon. :)

[SpongeG]

It is all relative. A lot of people in Vancouver have moved there from the Prairies, so it truly is
going to seem like LotusLand for them. If you move from Mexico, it will not.

MY FRIEND had a friend from mexico here last summer for a couple months - and it was our warmest time of the year - july august in the 20's and the guy from mexico complained all the time about how cold it was and wore a sweater and layers every day

anyway today is crappola - snow everywhere - abbotsford got it worst over 25 cm or something

surrey got close to 25 cm too

traffic is awful - driving into work sucked - the roads were barely cleared, if it freezes overnight - mondays commute will be a nightmare - its suppossed to hit -3 on tuesday and 0 on wednesday and than +8c on thursday :koko:

[SpongeG]

ok i grew up in NE BC - where weather is odd too - we also used to get chinooks

the month before we left - we left in february - the coldest month of the year basically - so at the beginning of the month - the temperature did not go above -30c for over 8 days and when it did warm up it only went to -20 or so

so we had a chinook about the 2nd last week of february - the week before we moved - and the temp shot up to +3 or so and than the final week the temp dropped again into the -15's range

all the years i lived there it was often like that - all of a sudden you get a chinook - and it feels like summer than it gets cold again for weeks

and we always had dry snow - an odd concept but it was usually so cold the snow was dry - you couldn't do anything with it - ie make snowballs or snowmen it was too dry

[Coldrsx]

im just about to drive to Bon's or commercial for some jap or pout' ....cant wait to have to watch out for every single bad driver.

[Agent Orange]

It's 26º here in Florida at the moment. All of this talk of chilly weather sounds rather exotic.

[Taller Better]

"Bon's or commercial for some jap or pout' "
What does that mean??!:shrug::D

[SpongeG]

japanese or poutine?

[Maldive]

Taller for Prime Minister.

definitely has the right stuff.... did not revel in the glorious Toronto weather, instead propped up all Canuck identities at once.. it will get bad in S. Ont. eventually... and then the country can breathe a collective sigh or relief.

Taller for President... umm I mean Queen... umm I mean PRIME minister.

You are so politically correct I think you are an alien (really).

[IntotheWest]

As Canadians, we enjoy teasing each other about crappy Winter weather, but in reality it is a case of "The Pot calling the Kettle black". None of us gets wonderful Winter weather, and the foul stuff will be reaching us very soon. :)

Fair enough...however, as much as I agree with your obvious point about going south = warmer, it's definitely not necessarily the biggest factor (jetstreams, ocean currents, etc). For example, Osoyoos is north of both TO or Windsor - but is still warmer than both. Meanwhile, Victoria is south of everything except for South Ont, and still has a relatively cool summer for major centers in Canada.

The Winnipeg/Calgary comparison was simply for those that think the Prairies are all the same.


Anyway, it's minus twenty-frickin'-four outside - and we're still two days from a Chinook, so I have nothing better to do than debate our wonderful weather:)

[MonkeyRonin]

I wonder how many countries in the world can offer up a 40 degree C spread between major cities (Calgary/Toronto) on a given day??

China.

[dubiousmike]

The US ;)

[Coldrsx]

"Bon's or commercial for some jap or pout' "
What does that mean??!:shrug::D


bon's on nanaimo

commercial drive for japanese or poutine at frenchies.

[Taller Better]

Taller for Prime Minister.

definitely has the right stuff.... did not revel in the glorious Toronto weather, instead propped up all Canuck identities at once.. it will get bad in S. Ont. eventually... and then the country can breathe a collective sigh or relief.

Taller for President... umm I mean Queen... umm I mean PRIME minister.

You are so politically correct I think you are an alien (really).


Well, if given my druthers, I'd choose Absolute Dictator.... if the post is open!

"You are so politically correct I think you are an alien (really)"

you have to, on SSP, or you get banned. The guys on SSC know the REAL me:

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8770/button6fo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Taller Better]

bon's on nanaimo

commercial drive for japanese or poutine at frenchies.

I think poutine is generally nauseating, but the best one I ever had was in Vancouver.. some guy in a dinky little shop off Granville downtown.. did the fries in the Belgian style. I have a vague recollection that he was from Montreal. First I had an order just with mayo, and they were so astoundingly good I came back and had a second one done as poutine. Most of them are just horrible old canned gravy, gross fries and pieces of white rubber thrown in for fibre.
Go to commercial drive for japanese. Trust me. you'll feel better later.



Anyway, it's minus twenty-frickin'-four outside - and we're still two days from a Chinook, so I have nothing better to do than debate our wonderful weather:)

Drink. Heavily. ;)

[Coldrsx]

^frenchies on com is authentic quebecois pout...

[SpongeG]

IS THAT One on davie at granville?

its always good yum - never tried the poutine though

[Taller Better]

^^ It is the authentic stuff that scares me! ;)

[caltrane74]

By Friday it will cool down to 3-5 degrees C here in Toronto.

Talk about a looking forward to a miserable weekend. And its only Monday.

[Mike K.]

There's a good half foot of snow in downtown Victoria right now and 0C although it's quite common for us to see snow in November or early December.

Well, with the temps falling at least the skies will clear up :tup:

[vanman]

This thread should be renamed 'laugh at Vancouver'. More than a foot of snow has fallen in the past 2 days and it all froze last night in temperatures as low as
-18C (with windchill). I have seen countless vehicles in ditches and on the sides of roads.This is probably the most volatile November I can ever remember in this city.

[Mike K.]

Right now at my place its +1C near downtown Victoria, but the CBC reports that Victoria's temperature is -3C.

Honestly, what is the purpose of using a reading from the airport or wherever else they get their readings from if there's a 5C discrepency between the reading and the city?

[Greco Roman]

This thread should be renamed 'laugh at Vancouver'. More than a foot of snow has fallen in the past 2 days and it all froze last night in temperatures as low as
-18C (with windchill). I have seen countless vehicles in ditches and on the sides of roads.This is probably the most volatile November I can ever remember in this city.


Have you guys had to call out the national guard yet to clean the snow off of the streets and highways?

:haha: :jester:

[Taller Better]

Right now at my place its +1C near downtown Victoria, but the CBC reports that Victoria's temperature is -3C.

Honestly, what is the purpose of using a reading from the airport or wherever else they get their readings from if there's a 5C discrepency between the reading and the city?

It is just used as a standard in most North American cities to use the airport temps as the official ones.. away from the influence of downtown buildings and concrete, etc...

[cornholio]

Have you guys had to call out the national guard yet to clean the snow off of the streets and highways?

:haha: :jester:

The only problem is idiotic drivers who dont know how to drive...they frustrate me so much that last night I almost lost it when I was going out to Vancouver Joyce are. God dam if you cant drive then stay at home, and if you cant stay at home then put on some snow tires. Last night there was cars geting stuck on some of the roads because of the ice and slowing me down, the only thing i was capable of doing at that point is to give them the finger as i passed and do a burn out to cover their car in snow and slush while the idiots spun their tires thinking that it would acomplish something.
I swear Vancouver has some of the worst drivers in this country, its truly pathetic when you have a lady crash in to a parked car on a plowed and slated road infront of my house.:hell:
By the way I must say that even though i didnt work today i still drove my girl friend to work and this was the best comute in a long time in Vancouver since most of the aholes that pissed me of last night and the night before finaly got the hint to stay home so i was able to cut the trip time in half while i passed skytrain cars which for some funy reason are runing at reduced speed and frequency.:)


Dam now i feel so much beter.:D

[Coldrsx]

made it from 1st and renfrew to YVR in 20ish min at 530am....roads were suprisingly decent and so were most of the drivers.

YVR had long lineups at ticket booths, but security was ok.

45min delay for de-icing etc. but back in YEG now.

funny thing is both cities look the same now.

[LordMandeep]

its will turn 17 here in Toronto on wed.

[Taller Better]

Taller for Prime Minister.
.

Maldive, are you by any chance "elliot" over at SSC? :D

[Maldive]

^ Warm. But it's not rocket science to figure out we work for the same company (same server). He's not my significant other. That's reserved for a very goodlookin' fellow.

A more interesting question is "what does Taller do? Is he independently wealthy?". I rarely post here but you are always on-line and seem to be watching (Big Brotha), from dawn to bed time. You must be a kept man or loaded because ubiquitous withers next to your on-line presence. ;)

[caltrane74]

Maldive, are you by any chance "elliot" over at SSC? :D

I always thought Maldive was Elliot..... I mentioned that many times over here that Elliot was Maldive.

And no one ever said.."no your wrong".

So Maldive your cover of a sweet lesbian lover is blown.

[caltrane74]

A more interesting question is "what does Taller do? Is he independently wealthy?". I rarely post here but you are always on-line and seem to be watching (Big Brotha), from dawn to bed time. You must be a kept man or loaded because ubiquitous withers next to your on-line presence. ;)

Maldive so true, what the hell does Taller do for a living. He is here day and nite. How rich is this guy. When he is not online, he is walking his dog through Yorkville and Church Street.. whats up wit dat?

Taller dont tell me = CPP and OAS

[CanadianCentaur]

Overcast with light snow and -23°C, with a windchill of -35°C.

The weather really hasn't changed very much the last three days, and it's been remarkably steady at -23/-24°C the last 36 hours or so.

Windchills as low as -40 to -45°C are being reported in parts of Southern Alberta, including Calgary.

[Kevin_foster]

It has snowed easily over a foot in the past 24 hours :/

[93JC]

Overcast with light snow and -23°C, with a windchill of -35°C.

The weather really hasn't changed very much the last three days, and it's been remarkably steady at -23/-24°C the last 36 hours or so.

Windchills as low as -40 to -45°C are being reported in parts of Southern Alberta, including Calgary.

Yeah, it's a balmy -24 °c, windchill -39 °c right now here in Calgary.

[IntotheWest]

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[IntotheWest]

-10c with windchill in Victoria! Wow, something is really screwed up.

Van got a decent dump of snow last November/early Dec as well...two years in a row. But this cold is crazy.

First 400mm of rain, and now snow for them...ouch. What a November in the west.

Only -33c with windchill in south Calgary.

[SHOFEAR]

My throttle thumb is going crazy. I need to get to the cabin and take out the skidoo's..... so much fresh snow. Keep it coming.

[Coldrsx]

almost time for some cayanne beer at blue plate.

[cornholio]

-10c with windchill in Victoria! Wow, something is really screwed up.

Van got a decent dump of snow last November/early Dec as well...two years in a row. But this cold is crazy.

First 400mm of rain, and now snow for them...ouch. What a November in the west.

Only -33c with windchill in south Calgary.

If I remeber right then it was less then a inch of snow that we got last year and it disapeared fast here in Vancouver. Just like this snow will when it gets back up to 8-10c and it starts raining again later this week.

[MonkeyRonin]

Van got a decent dump of snow last November/early Dec as well...two years in a row. But this cold is crazy.

First 400mm of rain, and now snow for them...ouch. What a November in the west.

Just to spite them for those damn palm trees ;)

[Taller Better]

^ Warm. But it's not rocket science to figure out we work for the same company (same server). He's not my significant other. That's reserved for a very goodlookin' fellow.

A more interesting question is "what does Taller do? Is he independently wealthy?". I rarely post here but you are always on-line and seem to be watching (Big Brotha), from dawn to bed time. You must be a kept man or loaded because ubiquitous withers next to your on-line presence. ;)

Ahhhhh! :yes: I suspected there was a 'connection', for two reasons...
and neither of them involved rocket science or server addressses.
1) both are, in mho, extremely talented graphic artists who do 'future renderings' for our pleasure
2) both inexplicably seemed to take umbrage at the fact that I was not interested in following the tried (tired?) and true Canadian custom of gloating about the s****y weather in Vancouver. Guess I just wasn't interested in starting a pissing contest for others.... :laugh: So you can see why I was curious as to whether you were one person....or two.
What do I do? :shrug: you may figure that out after you have been online a bit more! Despite your impression that I am on here 24-7, you will notice I am only online in the evenings 2 days per week. Hint: I work the other five evenings. Probably unorthodox, but I don't have an office job. Sadly, I have to work the same number of hours that most other people do.. :( But if you happen to know of any sugar daddies out there interested in... uhmmm... a rather mature boytoy, be free to pass my Taller, Higher name along!! Happy that the two of you have shone your flashlight of interest on me!! How is the famous rendering coming along? Also, does this mean that you and "goodlooking" are an **ahem** "item"? :D

[Taller Better]

Maldive so true, what the hell does Taller do for a living. He is here day and nite. How rich is this guy. When he is not online, he is walking his dog through Yorkville and Church Street.. whats up wit dat?

Taller dont tell me = CPP and OAS


I'm SupaRich! :coolugh: I am devastatingly gorgeous and have a smokin' hot bod with a massive.. ermmm...ego.., so don't actually have to 'work' for a living like the rest of you poor sods!!:tup: I've pimped my dogs up with biotch diamond collars and always wear Gucci shades when I walk them so I don't have to deal with the riff raff around here!!!:cool:

[IntotheWest]

If I remeber right then it was less then a inch of snow that we got last year and it disapeared fast here in Vancouver. Just like this snow will when it gets back up to 8-10c and it starts raining again later this week.

No, it was 2-3 inches. I worked in Vancouver, lived in downtown during the week. It definitely stuck for a few days (in spots), but yeah not bad...Burnaby had it much worse. It still seemed strange getting it so early there.

But this year is much worse. And I don't think Van needs anymore rain these days ;-)

[IntotheWest]

Just to spite them for those damn palm trees ;)

Yeah...but really, any new chinese windmill palms will have a tough time getting through -11 weather. They are considered "northern" palms, but they can only handle so much.

The ones that have been around for a while though shouldn't have problems until -20c...they're not quite there :)

[circle33]

So some friends/former colleagues from Toronto are in Saskatoon right now for a trade show and they were commenting on how miserable cold it was (they weren't even willing to leave the hotel to go to a pub accross the street). Then one of them pondered how my wife (who is from Chile) can stand it out here. When I relayed this sentiment to her, while it was -16° with blowing snow, her reply was, "It's not really so bad right now". I guess we just get accustomed to it.

[drew]

^ meh. It's all about dressing for the weather. It's just as uncomfortable to walk around when it's -15C outside with a light jacket, no touque, and no mits, as it is to be stuck overdressed somewhere when it is +30C.

The advantage cold weather has over hot is that you can always find more layers and warm clothes to suit the conditions. When its hot though, there is only so much you can take off...

[circle33]

You know that and I know that, but it seems an elusive concept to many. The only beef I have with prairie winters (I'm celebrating my 5th this year...yippee) is that they drag on too long.

[Taller Better]

But this year is much worse. And I don't think Van needs anymore rain these days ;-)

See? There is always an upside. No more worrying about a potential drought!:D

[feepa]

You know that and I know that, but it seems an elusive concept to many. The only beef I have with prairie winters (I'm celebrating my 5th this year...yippee) is that they drag on too long.

We didnt have a winter last year. I figure we are making up for it now.

When I say we, I mean Edmonton at least. I would figure it was similar for most of the prairies

[sync]

We didnt have a winter last year. I figure we are making up for it now.

When I say we, I mean Edmonton at least. I would figure it was similar for most of the prairies


yes, in calgary i remember about 10 cold days last winter. that's it.

seemed to be above zero for most of the winter.

this current cold snap will last 1 week, if the weather people get the forecast right.

[CanadianCentaur]

As of 1:00 pm, it's a pleasant -26C, with a windchill of -39C. :D It was down to -28C this morning, with a windchill of -41C.

[DrJoe]

Toronto is supposed to be 16C tomorrow, 18C Thursday. Cooling off for the weekend though.

[caltrane74]

perfect go to the bar weather. - 18 degrees for a high in late November doesn"t really seem like a big deal? is it?

[sync]

according to the weather network the normal high (at pearson of course) is 3 for tomorrow.

so 18 is pretty good.

[Coldrsx]

vancouverites must be in heaven today....hell this week. Im kinda happy they are getting a taste of what the rest of canada deals with.

jaded levels' might go down a bit.