[feepa]

Ok, just in case you people thought you were feeling cold, heres something that should make you feel warm, and laugh a little

Edmonton
Currently
Observed at: Edmonton City Centre Airport 23 November 2006 9:26 AM MST
Light Snow


Temperature
-17°C
Pressure/ Tendency
101.6 kPa↓
Visibility
0.8 km
Humidity
84 %
Wind Chill
-25
Dewpoint
-19°C
Wind
NE 13 km/h

Text Forecast from Environment Canada
Edmonton: Issued 5.00 AM MST Thursday 23 November 2006

Today
Cloudy. Periods of snow beginning this morning. Amount 5 cm. Temperature steady near minus 15.
Tonight
Snow ending this evening then cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 17. Wind chill minus 25.
Friday
Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. High minus 16. Wind chill minus 28.
Saturday
Cloudy with 70 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 27. High minus 21.
Sunday
Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 25. High minus 23.
Monday
A mix of sun and cloud. Low minus 28. High minus 24.

and, just in case you thought I made this up, and its not possible, http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/city/pages/ab-50_metric_e.html

[murman]

When it gets that chilly in AB, you can expect the Wet Coast to dip below 0 Celsius, which it might by the weekend.

[Taller Better]

ARE YOU SERIOUS? That is horrible! It is only November!! Ugghh... I suspect the cold weather is coming our way...

[PhilippeMtl]

Poor you!

Move to Calgary.

[feepa]

Calgary is notmuch better

Calgary
Currently
Observed at: Calgary Int'l Airport 23 November 2006 9:00 AM MST
Light Snow

Temperature
-13°C
Pressure/ Tendency
101.0 kPa↓
Visibility
13 km
Humidity
86 %
Dewpoint
-15°C
Wind
SE 5 km/h

Text Forecast from Environment Canada
Calgary: Issued 5.00 AM MST Thursday 23 November 2006

Today
Cloudy with 40 percent chance of flurries. High minus 12.
Tonight
Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 17.
Friday
Cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries in the morning. Periods of light snow beginning in the evening. Wind becoming north 20 km/h late in the day. High minus 14. Wind chill minus 27.
Saturday
Periods of snow. Low minus 24. High minus 23.
Sunday
Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 28. High minus 24.
Monday
Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 29. High minus 21.

This is actually forecasted lower then Edmonton! Theres no chinook that can save Calgary from this!

[PhilippeMtl]

Move to Iqaluit, Nunavut-> a warm -2!

[harls]

feels like spring here.

wacky weather we're having across the country this fall, I tells ya.

[feepa]

Regional Normals for Edmonton on today..

Max Temp.
-3°C
Min Temp.
-13°C

[feepa]

Move to Iqaluit, Nunavut-> a warm -2!

WTF!!! :hell:

[mersar]

No doubt. I think Calgary actually has a worse forecast. At least be glad that EC rarely gets the forecast accuate more then 24 hours in advance.

Personally the cold doesn't bother me, the snow does. Especially when it causes traffic to slow to a crawl, making my normal 30 minute drive to work into 1.5 hours as it did this morning :(

Normals:Max Temp. 1°C
Min Temp. -11°C

[feepa]

Check out all the highway cameras across central and northern Alberta. Some show near prairie blizzard conditions

http://www.ama.ab.ca/road_report/camera/camera_station_main.htm

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2820/161431d6f9ee5pg1.jpg
^ First camera west of Edmonton

[Bigtime]

I think we've been relatively lucky here in Calgary, the last week was some very pleasant and sunny weather.

Thanks for the link to those AMA cameras Feepa! I didn't even know they existed, a great resource for sure!

[someone123]

This is why I am kind of skeptical when people go on about how nice the climate is in Alberta.

I was complaining about how cold it was yesterday and it was 4 degrees out.

[feepa]

This is why I am kind of skeptical when people go on about how nice the climate is in Alberta.

I was complaining about how cold it was yesterday and it was 4 degrees out.

This will be coldest and snowiest November I remember since the 90s.

Last Winter, was extra great. Christmas with shorts on at over 15+, stayed mainly above freezing till mid february, had a slight dip, but still no snow. March brought alot of snow (typical in Alberta)

We certainly, on average do not get the snow dumps like Altantic Canada does.
Sure, we get some really cold days, I wont deny this, but at least its sunny.
The summer here is great. Its never too hot, and rarely gets cold, and you can have weeks of nearly full sun.
Do not knock it till you try it.

[dubiousmike]

No doubt. I think Calgary actually has a worse forecast. At least be glad that EC rarely gets the forecast accuate more then 24 hours in advance.

Personally the cold doesn't bother me, the snow does. Especially when it causes traffic to slow to a crawl, making my normal 30 minute drive to work into 1.5 hours as it did this morning :(

Normals:Max Temp. 1°C
Min Temp. -11°C

There's a pretty distinct chinook arch over Calgary right now, but it seems to be missing us to the south. Or something. I'm not entirely sure how that works.

Lethbridge is supposed to get up to +5 today, but I don't put much stock in weather forecasts in this region.

[O-Town Hockey]

It's a comfortable 8 degrees and sunny today here in Ottawa. A welcome change considering we have been under cloud cover (and frequent rain) for the last month! I don't think that there is any denying that global warming has made things a little more mild here over the last 20 years. Good luck over there in Alberta; let's hope we stay South of the jetstream and all that snowy cold crap misses Ottawa to the North.

[cornholio]

Its a freezing 8c here in Vancouver, cloudy and rainy today and every other day before today for atleast the last month. Over the next couple days though the temperature is suposed to dip all the way to -4 on monday which realy realy sucks and the sun is suposed to come out which I havent seen in a month or so for no more than a couple minuits...im probably going to take that day of because thats just to cold to step outside, might get frost bite. But i am still confident that the prediction is wrong.

[sync]

i'll take a dry -15 over a wet -5 any day.

[Canadian Mind]

lol, shitastic deal for you folks out in alberta, part of the reason why we left.

[circle33]

I would laugh at Edmonton, but normally you knock off 3 to 5 degrees, wait 24hours then you've got Saskatoon's Wx.

[theUSUALsuspect]

i'll take a dry -15 over a wet -5 any day.

wet and -5 !?! Don't really think that's possible - water freezes at 0! When it goes that far below zero the air dries out and coastal winter sky's are sunny.

I'd take -5c over the -20 to -30c you're going to get for the next week in Calgary :haha: Hope it doesn't get windy too - YIKES then it feels like -40 !!!!!

Victoria may get down to 0 on the weekend and -7 on Monday :eek: Oh well, at least when it gets that cold it's dry! But... WTF!
Oh well - If it's gonna be cold hopefully we'll get some snow woohoo:banana:

[caltrane74]

Toronto is Sunny and 10 Degrees C. Grass wont turn brown here for another month/month and a half.

Half the trees still have leaves, including all the Weeping Willows.

I feel your pain Edmonton.

[Bigtime]

wet and -5 !?! Don't really think that's possible - water freezes at 0! When it goes that far below zero the air dries out and coastal winter sky's are sunny.

I'd take -5c over the -20 to -30c you're going to get for the next week in Calgary :haha: Hope it doesn't get windy too - YIKES then it feels like -40 !!!!!

Victoria may get down to 0 on the weekend and -7 on Monday :eek: Oh well, at least when it gets that cold it's dry! But... WTF!
Oh well - If it's gonna be cold hopefully we'll get some snow woohoo:banana:

I think Sync was referring to the humid cold other places can get, versus our dry cold out here.

[habsfan]

feels like spring here.

wacky weather we're having across the country this fall, I tells ya.

Tell me about it. 8 degrees in MOntreal, and teh grass is still green.

-20 in november is just too early for me!

[Boris2k7]

LOL, you all are a bunch of wimps.

-20 in November is perfectly ok.

[Taller Better]

Toronto is Sunny and 10 Degrees C. Grass wont turn brown here for another month/month and a half.

Half the trees still have leaves, including all the Weeping Willows.

I feel your pain Edmonton.

Oh yeah, but it is coming our way so feel the pain.. feel it deep. True, there are some leaves left, but getting hard to find nice fall colour shots. Took these this past Sunday after the Santa Claus Parade.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5140/nov1606philosopherswalkod9.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2396/nov1906philosopherswalkvf0.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1747/nov1906uoftik4.jpg

[Coldrsx]

i always laugh at how we complain every single fucking year about snow and cold.....

never happened before right?

[drew]

Don't laugh at Edmonton - yesterday in Winnipeg we were the national "hot spot" when it was around +15C...

and today it's currently -8C.

[Taller Better]

i always laugh at how we complain every single fucking year about snow and cold.....

never happened before right?

But complaining about the weather is what Canadians do best... it is the only
thing we are truly united on!!!! The winter weather sucks the big one, from Sea to Shining Sea :yuck: .

[IntotheWest]

^It was +20 in Calgary last year this time (and +9c two days ago)...it happens. We'll get this crap for a week, and bounce back up while the rest of the country is cold (and humid as pointed out)...and while the Wet Coast is still drinking bottled water.

BTW - I'd still take -6c in Calgary with the sun (which it is in the south right now) over that drizzly +6c in Van/Vic...the wind just makes it a pain to carry the brella.;)

[CCF]

It's really warm in Regina right now.............

[IntotheWest]

But complaining about the weather is what Canadians do best... it is the only
thing we are truly united on!!!! The winter weather sucks the big one, from Sea to Shining Sea :yuck: .

Well, there are a few out west that thinks that +5c and rain every day is perfect...strange as it sounds.

Besides - in Calgary, if it gets this cold, we just head to the mountains (-3c in Banff right now) :)

[caltrane74]

Santa must have been pissed. - (at the weather in Toronto)

I know I was (pissed). I hate kids.( especially 5-10 at a time)

They were running around downtown like jackrabbits. I will never get father of the year award. Thats for sure.

I was wishing those kids back to the suburbs.

[Taller Better]

Well, there are a few out west that thinks that +5c and rain every day is perfect...strange as it sounds.
:)


If you're into suicide! ;)
Plus +5c in the winter is ok, but when it stretches into June you've got problems! JK :whip::D

[caltrane74]

Plus 5 is a dream day in January here in Toronto. Although I do remember days in January were we touched 20 degrees.

[Taller Better]

Last year it got up to 11c once or twice in January. There are always January thaws.. hope this is a mild year. You would have hated the parade, Caltrane.... it was wall to wall kids! LOL! I got great pix and am slowly organising them for my photoblog.

[Coldrsx]

i bet we have more snow this year than all of last yr total....and we dont even have that much yet.

[dougtheengineer]

Ha ha makes me wonder why I'm so hellbent on going back to AB once I graduate in may :P

Still wearing my fleece in Kingston.

[harls]

man, it feels like spring today.. I took this a couple of hours ago.

http://static.flickr.com/116/304403306_d1fa7f25b7_o.jpg

sorry guys.

[IntotheWest]

Plus 5 is a dream day in January here in Toronto. Although I do remember days in January were we touched 20 degrees.

+5c - if its sunny, and not windy - is a nice Jan day anywhere in Canada.

As strange as it may seem that AB is "so" cold right now, Calgary average high last January was +5c...and only traces of snow.

@dougtheengineer - ummm...Kingston isn't exactly tropical either (it'll get cold)...just wait...;)

[caltrane74]

Technically it is still spring...... fall is the reverse of spring right.

Winter - Summer

Fall - Spring

I play this game in my head. So this tells u something about me.

March is like December
April is like November
October is like May
September is like June

August -July are the same
February and January are the Same

Its a stupid game when your mind is blank to play and see if it works.

[feepa]

Whenever I used to ask my dad if he heard the forecast when I was younger and living at home, he would always say "It's cold in the winter, and warm in the summer" he claimed he was the best weatherman there was, as he was always correct

[scumtoes]

i saw on the weather last night that it was +19C this time last year. oh well, whatever doesn't kill you only makes your stronger.

at least the rinks will be open soon! we'll have a good 3 1/2 months of outdoor hockey it seems.

[dubiousmike]

Just finished my homeward trudge from work and -13 at 80% RH was disappointingly temperate.

I'm not happy until I see ice fog and my extremities start changing colours. So, Come on, arctic airmass, I dare you. Let's take this up a notch.

[scumtoes]

"Calgary is what would happen if Houston knocked up Denver."

haha. nice sig

[Greco Roman]

Edmonton is truly a winter city. Always has been; always will be. Both Edmonton and Winnipeg are Canada's only 2 true winter cities IMO, which is why I love them both :tup:

[HomeInMyShoes]

I'll laugh at you. The temperature today here in St. Louis was +17C today. I went to the park with my fiance for a picnic lunch.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/HomeInMyShoes/General/DSC_0016-1.jpg

Our current plans are to be back in Edmonton July 2007. I can't wait for the long summer days and a better hockey team. :)

[circle33]

Both Edmonton and Winnipeg are Canada'a only 2 true winter cities IMO, which is why I love them both :tup:

Awww, man. I know we're winter, so I guess we're not a city.

[dubiousmike]

Awww, man. I know we're winter, so I guess we're not a city.

I was just about to mention that Saskatoon should receive the honour. St. John's as well.

[Jay in Cowtown]

"Calgary is what would happen if Houston knocked up Denver."


Ironically... those are my two favorite American cities, LOL!!!

[Greco Roman]

Awww, man. I know we're winter, so I guess we're not a city.

Sorry dude. I didn't mean to exclude toontown. I have spent some time there in winter too, and it is up there, but I still stand by my beliefs about Edmonton and Winnipeg.

[bc2mb]

i believe saskatoon is a "hair colder" that winnipeg when comparing average temps...

[CanadianCentaur]

What about Regina?

[IntotheWest]

^I think you guys are leaving out Quebec City as a true winter city...it will on average have more than twice the snow on the ground compared to Winnipeg (some 58cm deep vs Winnipeg's 20cm deep in Jan). Montreal isn't too far behind Quebec either.

Winnipeg takes the cold crown though - less than -12 for an average high in January.

[IntotheWest]

^Oh, and at temps with a wind chill of less than -50c, if it's blowing on your forehead it'll knock you out within minutes...

I've only seen (felt) -50c at Portage and Main (-52c, in Jan of 2004).

[Only The Lonely..]

Winnipeg winter will definitely make a man out of you..

I know on some of those -40c days I've stood outside for a bus with tears running down my eyes. I suppose it's invigorating. Personally i'd be interested to know how the various small animals and birds survive our winter.

[jawagord]

Toronto is Sunny and 10 Degrees C. Grass wont turn brown here for another month/month and a half.

Half the trees still have leaves, including all the Weeping Willows.

I feel your pain Edmonton.

10C in Toronto, I almost feel like changing my weekend plans and flyng back to Canada! Alas, I will be contending with the 30C+ temperatures this weekend as we check out the old resort area of Pelabuhan Ratu.
.
"The rugged road to the small fishing town of Pelabuhan Ratu in Southwest Java is well-troden by Jakartans on weekend and holiday jaunts.
I challenge anyone to beat the pleasure of lying on your beach gazebo watching yet another beautiful Pelabuhan Ratu sunset sink behind the mountains. The light catches the surf as it throws up a mysterious mist around the bay. And out on the water, the twinkling light of the squid rafts' kerosene lamps hiss into action as the aroma of your own fish drifts over to tempt you from your reverie.
The only complaint is that the restaurant service can be pretty slow, but, hey, everything goes slow here, that's the way we like it!"

[Greco Roman]

^Oh, and at temps with a wind chill of less than -50c, if it's blowing on your forehead it'll knock you out within minutes...

I've only seen (felt) -50c at Portage and Main (-52c, in Jan of 2004).

Umm........Edmonton reached -40C in Febuary, just not sure if it was 2003 or 2002, and I'm sure there was a crazy windchill too. I'll never forget that. I was in Lethbridge at the time, but it made news across the province. This type of weather is more common out here than you would think. It's just that the last 10 years have been abmormally warm to mask the real winter weather.

[circle33]

The answer is here (http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/climate_normals/index_e.html) as far as which city is the coldest/ warmest (if you're willing to accept a 30 year sample size sufficient).

A sampling. Edmonton can't hold a candle to WPG as far as winter goes if you buy the averages arguement.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/circle33/Temper/Edmonton.png

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/circle33/Temper/Saskatoon.png

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/circle33/Temper/Winnipeg.png

[Greco Roman]

HMMM......... Winnipeg has the coldest winters and the warmest summers out of all three cities. They win all around :cheers:

But as I stated before, the winters in Winnipeg are getting warmer just like everywhere else, permanent snow cover is restricted to about 4-5 months of the year based on what has been told to me; and apparently even that is getting shorter. And the "coldness" of winter isn't anywhere near as intense as what I can remeber it being.

[CCF]

Can we pretend that we are a tropical destination?

[Greco Roman]

Can we pretend that we are a tropical destination?

Actually, I just pretend that I anywhere, and I mean ANYWHERE besides the U of A. That place drives my stress level through the roof :hell:

[IntotheWest]

This type of weather is more common out here than you would think. It's just that the last 10 years have been abmormally warm to mask the real winter weather.

It's not that common. There's only "on average" 5 days a year in Calgary that the low dips below -30c...26 days below -20c. However, I agree, if you spend enough time in the prairie cities, you're definitely bound to see at least -40c sometime.

The last 10 years has been generally warmer, but the EC averages are a 30 year rolling average - which right now doesn't include past 2000.

The next change to the "averages" will be in 2010. All prairie provinces will see improvements of about 1-2 degrees for Jan highs...which is quite significant. But based on averages, there is a sizeable difference between MB and southern AB in winter...where Cardston AB is the only place to have an "average" high greater than 0c year-round.

[vanman]

Damn, -20 is way too damn cold in any month. How do you guys do it. In Vancouver it has been raining for days on end , and not just 'drizzle' either but straight up downpours every other hour. For some reason, this year I don't seem to mind it. It makes it easier to go to sleep at night with all the ambient noise in the background. And WTF is up with eastern Canada this winter? It's like you guys jacked up our weather right from underneath us. Maybe it's a sign of things to come(GLOBAL WARMING).

Fuck, "Tropical Toronto" may be the catchphrase of the future.

[Greco Roman]

It's not that common. There's only "on average" 5 days a year in Calgary that the low dips below -30c...26 days below -20c. However, I agree, if you spend enough time in the prairie cities, you're definitely bound to see at least -40c sometime.

The last 10 years has been generally warmer, but the EC averages are a 30 year rolling average - which right now doesn't include past 2000.

The next change to the "averages" will be in 2010. All prairie provinces will see improvements of about 1-2 degrees for Jan highs...which is quite significant. But based on averages, there is a sizeable difference between MB and southern AB in winter...where Cardston AB is the only place to have an "average" high greater than 0c year-round.

I was referring more towards Edmonton. I lived in lethbridge for two years; I know just how warm it gets down there.

[Taller Better]

Damn, -20 is way too damn cold in any month. How do you guys do it. In Vancouver it has been raining for days on end , and not just 'drizzle' either but straight up downpours every other hour. For some reason, this year I don't seem to mind it. It makes it easier to go to sleep at night with all the ambient noise in the background. And WTF is up with eastern Canada this winter? It's like you guys jacked up our weather right from underneath us. Maybe it's a sign of things to come(GLOBAL WARMING).

Fuck, "Tropical Toronto" may be the catchphrase of the future.

It hasn't been that warm... a few blips up, but by in large we had a very cold and crappy fall from mid Aug on. Today was either 7c or 8c and the high today normally should be around 5.6C.

I was surprised about that little place in Alberta that has an average Jan high of just above zero! I'll bet that average comes from some pretty strong swings either way. Our Jan avg high is something like -1.2C, I think. All in all I have noticed since I move here that our temps are not as stable as Vancouver/Vic, but they do not fluctuate as wildly as the Prairies, either.

[ArtRambo]

I blame the anti-global warming people, they want to bring back the dark ages. If we dont stop them they will tax the very air we breathe.

[O-Town Hockey]

Check out how green the grass is in on Parliament Hill: http://www.parliamenthill.gc.ca/text/hillcam_e.html

I don't think I've ever seen it that green. Takes at least 3 months to recover from Canada Day. I'm loving this late fall weather.

[flar]

I've thought this fall has been extra cold here in Hamilton, but I guess I'm just spoiled having grown up in the Banana Belt down by Lake St. Clair.

[feepa]

Just like you get used to +35 C and high humdity, and person gets aclimatized to -30 and a wind

[feepa]

Edmonton
Currently
Observed at: Edmonton City Centre Airport 24 November 2006 7:06 AM MST
Light Snow

Temperature
-19°C
Pressure/ Tendency
101.8 kPa↑
Visibility
15 km
Humidity
79 %
Wind Chill
-31
Dewpoint
-22°C
Wind
WNW 28 km/h gust 37 km/h

[Tyco]

This is interesting, Climate Severity index. Edmonton scores a 37. Lower than alot of places in Canada, including Ottawa and Montreal.

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0011882

[circle33]

Interesting indeed.

Note to self: Stay out of Isachsen.

[Kevin_foster]

It's friggin cold this morning :( So dry :(

I think my lips are going to crack off.

Man I hope this ends.

[Taller Better]

Just like you get used to +35 C and high humdity, and person gets aclimatized to -30 and a wind

Not everyone. I hated the cold weather and could never get accustomed to -30c and -40c. Let's be honest... when it gets cold like that, almost all unnecessary outdoor activity ceases.. people only run out to the car and when they get to their destination they run indoors. You have to plug your car in or it will not start. Cities become ghost towns. I'd rather have +35C than -35C, no matter how dry a cold it is. ;)

[Coldrsx]

my ears fell off on jasper and 104st.

[IntotheWest]

Not everyone. I hated the cold weather and could never get accustomed to -30c and -40c. Let's be honest... when it gets cold like that, almost all unnecessary outdoor activity ceases.. people only run out to the car and when they get to their destination they run indoors. You have to plug your car in or it will not start. Cities become ghost towns. I'd rather have +35C than -35C, no matter how dry a cold it is. ;)

Let's be honest - when TO gets to +35, all outdoor activity ceases as well...people only run out to the car, and when they get to their destination they run indoors.

When I worked out there in 2002, I found the summer weather unbearable - especially the days with smog warnings (and the garbage strike didn't help much ;) ).

+35 with a humidity (or even dry for that matter - like AZ or Vegas) is neary as uncomfortable as -35c.

I do agree though, that even the -15c in Calgary right now feels downright too cold to want to do anything. But again, this is NOT the norm in Calgary - the normal is +2c for a high...and while it cools off in the fall quicker in Nov, the Feb high in Calgary is slightly warmer than TO (really, they're about the same through winter).

[cornholio]

Thats why I love Vancouver...perfect in the summer and not to cold in the winter.

[IntotheWest]

I was surprised about that little place in Alberta that has an average Jan high of just above zero! I'll bet that average comes from some pretty strong swings either way. Our Jan avg high is something like -1.2C, I think. All in all I have noticed since I move here that our temps are not as stable as Vancouver/Vic, but they do not fluctuate as wildly as the Prairies, either.

Yes, it would be strong winds down there...however, as you move across the border it would die down. Unfortunately, there hasn't been recording stations long enough to establish averages, but I would suspect those averages would be similar as far as Onefour - which would also rank as one of the warmest spots in summer after the south Okanagan.

Those wild fluctuations in winter are the responsibility of being a direct hit from winds produced from the arctic polar vortex - pushed directly south over NWT down to AB, Sask, and MB...they move east from there, and are guarded by the Rockies (saving much of BC) - which is why it's usually "milder" close to the south-eastern edges of the Rockies.

So, while it will be painful to endure the cold-snap for the next several days, it's also been nice enough in Jan to golf or fishing in the Calgary area.

[Coldrsx]

Thats why I love Vancouver...perfect in the summer and not to cold in the winter.


i like 4 seasons though...i like vans moderate temps and can live there, but there is something about 4 seasons

[theUSUALsuspect]

i like 4 seasons though...i like vans moderate temps and can live there, but there is something about 4 seasons

I prefer a Fairmont to a 4 seasons...

[Western Spaghetti]

Yes, it would be strong winds down there...however, as you move across the border it would die down. Unfortunately, there hasn't been recording stations long enough to establish averages, but I would suspect those averages would be similar as far as Onefour - which would also rank as one of the warmest spots in summer after the south Okanagan.



Actually there an area in southwest Saskatchewan, which on average is the hottest spot in Canada (Many people think it's the Fraser Canyon). It also has the record for the hottest temperature ever recorded in Canada, +46C

[Western Spaghetti]

So, while it will be painful to endure the cold-snap for the next several days, it's also been nice enough in Jan to golf or fishing in the Calgary area.

It was beautiful last week, +15C. I was out doing yard work. True enough, a couple weeks from now it could easily be the same again.

[theUSUALsuspect]

So, while it will be painful to endure the cold-snap for the next several days, it's also been nice enough in Jan to golf or fishing in the Calgary area.

It doesn't have to be nice to fish!?! What about ice fishing? That's all kinds of fun right there...little tent, bottle of JD and some hot coffee! Highly recommended to waste away a cold prairie winter day:)

[Western Spaghetti]

HMMM......... Winnipeg has the coldest winters and the warmest summers out of all three cities. They win all around :cheers:

But as I stated before, the winters in Winnipeg are getting warmer just like everywhere else, permanent snow cover is restricted to about 4-5 months of the year based on what has been told to me; and apparently even that is getting shorter. And the "coldness" of winter isn't anywhere near as intense as what I can remeber it being.

I guess no has mentioned Fort McMurray for winter weather. Try spending a winter there!
We had -50C a few times. -30C is normal.

[IntotheWest]

Damn, -20 is way too damn cold in any month. How do you guys do it. In Vancouver it has been raining for days on end , and not just 'drizzle' either but straight up downpours every other hour. For some reason, this year I don't seem to mind it.


The same way you deal with the rain...really. I spent the last two winters in Vancouver - and couldn't take it. The first month I was there, I didn't think I'd ever see dry roads. The rain/drizzle/lack of sun is a big downer - and far more constant than a cold snap in Calgary.

The winter flowers were nice though :)

[theUSUALsuspect]

I guess no has mentioned Fort McMurray for winter weather. Try spending a winter there!
We had -50C a few times. -30C is normal.

I have, once - well only for a month back in 1997. Skidooing in -40 is fun! Go for coffee leave the car running...

[IntotheWest]

It doesn't have to be nice to fish!?! What about ice fishing? That's all kinds of fun right there...little tent, bottle of JD and some hot coffee! Highly recommended to waste away a cold prairie winter day:)

In Calgary, I'm obviously talking about fly fishing on the Bow - which doesn't completely freeze over.

[theUSUALsuspect]

In Calgary, I'm obviously talking about fly fishing on the Bow - which doesn't completely freeze over.

Obviously, sorry Mam

[cornholio]

In Calgary, I'm obviously talking about fly fishing on the Bow - which doesn't completely freeze over.

rivers freezing over? never new that could hapen.:sly:

although i did hear that the last time the Fraser freezed over was in the early 1900's

[theUSUALsuspect]

Canada - this morning 10PST. The East having seasonal weather the west, well...

http://static.flickr.com/117/305067921_0a8b2535ae_o.jpg

[IntotheWest]

Actually there an area in southwest Saskatchewan, which on average is the hottest spot in Canada (Many people think it's the Fraser Canyon). It also has the record for the hottest temperature ever recorded in Canada, +46C


I believe that is actually owned by Midale, Sask - more south/central-eastern. While it has the record, it's still a couple degrees shy (on average) of Osoyoos. Still is quite warm though, but its a little warmer in the south-west corner (south-eastern AB) as you mention.

[IntotheWest]

rivers freezing over? never new that could hapen.:sly:


Many rivers will freeze over - at least at parts - in the Prairies. The Bow isn't one of them, and allows for fly fishing anytime during the year...very nice thing to do when it's +10c and sunny in Dec/Jan.

[cornholio]

Many rivers will freeze over - at least at parts - in the Prairies. The Bow isn't one of them, and allows for fly fishing anytime during the year...very nice thing to do when it's +10c and sunny in Dec/Jan.

i was being sarcastic.

[IntotheWest]

Canada - this morning 10PST. The East having seasonal weather the west, well...

http://static.flickr.com/117/305067921_0a8b2535ae_o.jpg

You can see from the satellite imagery where the warm jetstream is way south of Vancouver...well into mid-California (Napa and Healdsburg are only about 7/8c right now) - which pushes north-east through Montana (where Billings is +5c). As well, you can see the strong winds coming down the eastern edge of the Rockies, and cutting east at about Edmonton.

Those winds will continue east - so enjoy it now Ont/Que, this is your warning!

http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/data/satellite/goes_wnam_visible_100.jpg

[Taller Better]

Let's be honest - when TO gets to +35, all outdoor activity ceases as well...people only run out to the car, and when they get to their destination they run indoors.

When I worked out there in 2002, I found the summer weather unbearable - especially the days with smog warnings (and the garbage strike didn't help much ;) ).

+35 with a humidity (or even dry for that matter - like AZ or Vegas) is neary as uncomfortable as -35c.

I do agree though, that even the -15c in Calgary right now feels downright too cold to want to do anything. But again, this is NOT the norm in Calgary - the normal is +2c for a high...and while it cools off in the fall quicker in Nov, the Feb high in Calgary is slightly warmer than TO (really, they're about the same through winter).

Ok, IntotheWest, I'll provide some proof, and then we can determine who is being honest! ;) These pix were taken this summer in Toronto, on a day when the temperature was 35c-36c. I went out on my bike for a phototour:

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/858/july1606riverdaleparkiiini8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3609/july1606broadviewsceneclf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/376/july1606queenstbeachesdb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1091/july1606riverdaleparkizx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ok.... now look deeply into my eyes, and tell me that this is as bad as -35C!:haha: I have to go by twenty some years memory of -35c as it never gets that cold here in TO, thank God. The coldest in recorded history was once at -31.4C.
The coldest temp ever recorded in Vancouver was a mere -18c.

[theUSUALsuspect]

^ ITW has a... special ... way of reasoning :D

[Lyle]

Four pages in two days... nothing gets Canucks more excited than talking about the weather! Maybe we are boring...:shrug:

[Taller Better]

I know the cold is headed our way, but still pleasant here. Today was 8c and I snapped these pix walking the dog. Most trees bare but a few still pretty:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/566/nov2406viinq8.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1277/nov2406iiiww7.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9855/nov2406ij1.jpg

and I just looked off my balcony:

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9647/nov2406viiipp6.jpg

[Maldive]

Taller, 2 things happen when the weather is better in Hogtown than any where else in the country (which frankly happens a lot except for 2 awful winter weeks and 2 awful summer weeks)...

... everyone in soggy Vancouver, or frozen Alberta, or wannabe lotus-land Halifax....

... simply stop posting in weather discussions.

BTW, I have 2 rose blossoms and my clematis has one flower and is trying for more... not great in Costa Rica but in Canada??

Friggin' amazing. Bring on December!! (assumes global warming and more horrific chilly hurricanes on the west coast).

;-)