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Steely Dan
Nov 24, 2006, 7:19 AM
ever since marshall gerometta posted his "hot 500" list on the early internet, the 500 foot height mark has had somewhat of a special significance among skyscraper fans, even if it is still a rather arbitray cut-off. we humans seem to simply gravitate towards nice round numbers, and the nice symmetry of 500 standing exactly halfway between zero and 1,000 (the skyscraper fan's holy land) also doesn't hurt its supposed signifance as a measure of height in feet.

with all that in mind, according to Emporis (the bible of chicago skyscraper stats), the windy city currently has 87 completed buildings that stand 500 feet or taller. when combined with the 11 buildings over 500 feet that are under construction listed below, the windy city tally for 500+ footers currently stands at 98.



under construction:

Trump Tower Chicago (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102119) res./hotel 1,362 ft 1,171 ft 96 2008 website (http://www.trumpchicago.com/main.htm)
Waterview Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=149542) res./hotel 1,047 ft 1,035 ft 89 2009 website (http://www.waterviewtower.com/)
300 North Lasalle (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102149) office 784 ft ... .. 60 2009 website (http://www.300northlasalle.com/)
One Museum Park (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=133771) residential 734 ft ... .. 65 2007 website (http://www.onemuseumpark.com/)
The Elysian (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=188061) res./hotel 700 ft ... .. 60 2008 website (http://www.elysianhotels.com/)
340 on the Park (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102131) - TO residential 672 ft 659 ft 64 2007 website (http://www.340ontheparkchicago.com/)
The Clare at Watertower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=181219) residential 589 ft ... .. 50 2007 website (http://www.theclare.com/home/home.asp)
The Columbian (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102116) residential 517 ft ... .. 47 2007 website (http://www.thecolumbianchicago.com/)
The Streeter (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=207589) - TO residential 514 ft ... .. 50 2006 website (http://www.thestreeter.com/)
600 North LSD South Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=207596) residential 513 ft ... .. 46 2009 website (http://www.600northlakeshoredrive.com/index.html)
Parkview West (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102151) residential 507 ft 497 ft 47 2008




so when we consider the fact that there are 5 other 500+ foot projects in chicago currently in the site prep/demo phase, it becomes quite clear that chicago is about to pass the one hundred 500+ footer mark very soon.



site prep/demo:

[url=http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=229842]Legacy at Millennium Park (][/url) residential 822 ft 792 ft 73 ____ website (http://www.thelegacyatmillenniumpark.com/)
Aqua (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=190323) res./hotel 815 ft ... .. 83 2009 website (http://www.lakeshoreeast.com/aqua/)
Blue Cross-Blue Shield (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=116823)** office 743 ft ... .. 57 ____
[url=http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101484]353 North Clark (][/url) office 612 ft ... .. 46 2009
[url=http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=269019]The Streeter II (][/url) residential 570 ft ... .. 53 ____





what does all of this mean? not a great deal, but since so many of us are number lovers along with being skyscraper fans, i thought a thread marking chicago's imminent crossing of this impressive threshold would be interesting.






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plinko
Nov 24, 2006, 8:50 AM
Steely, 500' is a magic number for me too.

I seem to recall back in 1988 when I first stumbled upon the listings in the World Almanac that NYC had something like 112 (the listings for NYC only went down to the United Nations at 505'). Wonder how many there are now? I suppose I could go to Emporis and find out...

Are there any other cities in the world that have over 100 500'ers? The only two I can think that's possible for are HK and maybe Shanghai.

Impressive... :)

Steely, can you post the full Chicago 'built+UC' list over 500' here?

left of center
Nov 24, 2006, 8:58 AM
I remember reading in this message board about 3 or 4 years ago about passing the 500 foot mark. Back then, most Chicagoan forumers thought that the current boom would not catapult us past 100 buildings over 500 feet, which did seem like a logical conclusion (at that point, the city had about 76 buildings over 500 feet, and with about 8 to 10 under contruction). But hot damn, its actually gonna happen. Kickass!

volguus zildrohar
Nov 24, 2006, 3:35 PM
Chicago hasn't gotten there yet? Get on the good foot, fellas!

chicubs111
Nov 24, 2006, 4:28 PM
chicago also has a very large amount of building between 450 and 499 ft, ..just think if those buildings had 1 or 2 more stories added to them how many 500ft + building we would have. Even though i doubt a person can tell the difference between 490 and 500ft.

Steely Dan
Nov 24, 2006, 5:02 PM
Are there any other cities in the world that have over 100 500'ers? The only two I can think that's possible for are HK and maybe Shanghai.

well, HK is definitely over 100, as is new york, which you mentioned. shanghai i'm not sure about, but it certainly seems likely. and i think dubai will be there soon if it isn't already.

one thing is for sure, other than NYC and chicago, no other north american city is anywhere close to the mark yet.






Steely, can you post the full Chicago 'built+UC' list over 500' here?

that would be too much typing, but here's an easy link straight to the list of completed chicago buildings over on emporis: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=101030&bt=9&ht=3&sro=1

Tom In Chicago
Nov 24, 2006, 5:51 PM
Hong Kong has 202 known 500+ footers but I would guess that number is under-counted due to the known unknowns. . . if you know what I mean. . .

Shanghai has 84. . . but no doubt it will surpass Chicago in the coming years. . .

Dubai has 82. . . most of which are under construction. . .

New York City has 192. . .

Western Spaghetti
Nov 24, 2006, 6:19 PM
That's very impressive. Congrats Chicago!, Still my favorite skyline.

brian_b
Nov 24, 2006, 8:25 PM
What about Brazil? Or are most of their skyscrapers well below 500 feet?

Steely Dan
Nov 25, 2006, 1:12 AM
brazil's large cities may contain thousands upon thousands of highrises, but none of them contain a great deal of towers over 500' tall.

KevinFromTexas
Nov 25, 2006, 5:30 AM
Awesome. Now what I really want to see is ten 1,000+ footers on the skyline.

eventhorizon5
Nov 25, 2006, 6:30 AM
What about the 124-story Fordham Spire (aka 400 N. Lake Shore Drive)? Didn't see that in the lists. Construction is supposed to start early next year.

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=fordhamspire-chicago-il-usa

-eventhorizon

Latoso
Nov 25, 2006, 8:10 AM
:previous: It's now called the Chicago Spire.

Marcu
Nov 25, 2006, 8:58 AM
What about the 124-story Fordham Spire (aka 400 N. Lake Shore Drive)? Didn't see that in the lists. Construction is supposed to start early next year.

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=fordhamspire-chicago-il-usa

-eventhorizon

It's been approved but it has not gone into "site-prep" yet, which is what the list focuses on. But hey maybe Chicago Spire will still have a chance of being #100.

Wheelingman04
Nov 25, 2006, 2:44 PM
Chicago is my favorite skyline no matter what.

eventhorizon5
Nov 26, 2006, 5:36 AM
It's been approved but it has not gone into "site-prep" yet, which is what the list focuses on. But hey maybe Chicago Spire will still have a chance of being #100.

I guess I wasn't reading the original post correctly or something lol.

-eventhorizon

Steely Dan
Nov 27, 2006, 11:50 PM
so does anyone one wanna start placing bets on which horse will be the 100th 500+ footer for chicago? Aqua and 535 N Clark clark are both pretty close to construction start. whichever one starts first, becoming the 99th, will leave the 100th position for the other one.

i think 535 will start first leaving the door open for Aqua to become the 100th.

we do have a dark horse with the Streeter II. those rental towers can start right out of the blue without a moment's notice sometimes.

the legacy and BCBS seem further off due to their more complex site prep/demo situations.

zilfondel
Nov 28, 2006, 1:11 AM
Awesome!

my city, Portland, only has 3 buildings over 500' - with nothing ever going to come close!

I need to visit Chicago sometime, methinks. :D

CGII
Nov 28, 2006, 1:56 AM
In two hundred years, Milwaukee's two 500 footers will expand to be a billion miles tall to compensate and beat every other city in overall building height. Wallow in your pride while it lasts.

DePaul Bunyan
Nov 28, 2006, 11:11 PM
In two hundred years, Milwaukee's two 500 footers will expand to be a billion miles tall to compensate and beat every other city in overall building height. Wallow in your pride while it lasts.

Those must be two HUGE cheese wheels!

Lecom
Nov 28, 2006, 11:21 PM
Good for Chi-town. I must definitely pay a visit to the Windy City some time.

CGII
Nov 28, 2006, 11:25 PM
Those must be two HUGE cheese wheels!
Actually they're beer mugs featuring giant murals of the Fonze and Laverne & Shirley.

Steely Dan
Nov 28, 2006, 11:27 PM
Actually they're beer mugs featuring giant murals of the Fonze and Laverne & Shirley.

HOTNESS!!!

X-fib
Nov 29, 2006, 6:08 PM
Actually they're beer mugs featuring giant murals of the Fonze and Laverne & Shirley.

Filled with Leini's?

trvlr70
Nov 29, 2006, 8:25 PM
so does anyone one wanna start placing bets on which horse will be the 100th 500+ footer for chicago? Aqua and 535 N Clark clark are both pretty close to construction start. whichever one starts first, becoming the 99th, will leave the 100th position for the other one.

i think 535 will start first leaving the door open for Aqua to become the 100th.

we do have a dark horse with the Streeter II. those rental towers can start right out of the blue without a moment's notice sometimes.

the legacy and BCBS seem further off due to their more complex site prep/demo situations.
Do you determine the buildings by construction starts or when they are TO'd?

Steely Dan
Nov 29, 2006, 8:36 PM
Do you determine the buildings by construction starts or when they are TO'd?

or we could play it by when they cross the 500' mark, but that would be very complicated to determine. perhaps TO is the best way to go.

kenc
Nov 29, 2006, 11:44 PM
...one thing is for sure, other than NYC and Chicago, no other north american city is anywhere close to the mark yet.

I am surprised we have not heard from the Toronto folks regarding that comment.

Steely Dan
Nov 29, 2006, 11:50 PM
I am surprised we have not heard from the Toronto folks regarding that comment.

that's because toronto is nowhere close to having one hundred 500+ footers. they have about a dozen 500+ footers completed and another half dozen or so under construction right now. toronto's strong suit in the highrise numbers game has never been 500+ footers, but rather the shitload of 20-something story resdential blocks that litter the entire city and metro area.

however, toronto is on the ups in a big way, and could very well have the 3rd or 4th most 500+ footers in north america in the not too distant future, depending on south florida because miami is blowing up huge with 500+ footers right now, vegas too.

Steely Dan
Nov 30, 2006, 5:23 AM
for reference, here's a ranking of major north american cities (excluding NYC & chicago) by the number of 500+ footers.

the formula for the numbers works like this: completed + U/C = total

miami is going absolutely ape-shit with the tall buildings right now

miami: 9 + 24 = 33
houston: 28 + 0 = 28
los angeles: 21 + 0 = 21
san fran: 16 + 2 = 18
dallas: 16 + 1 =17
atlanta: 12 + 5 = 17
toronto: 11 + 5 = 16
boston: 14 + 0 = 14
seattle: 12 + 0 = 12
vegas: 3 + 9 = 12
philly: 9 + 2 = 11


all data from the SSP database

Wheelingman04
Nov 30, 2006, 9:53 AM
^ It is truely sad that LA has such a small amount for being so large.

trvlr70
Nov 30, 2006, 3:42 PM
I'm shocked at how few 500 ft. buildings Toronto has considering how much attention the city gets on this thread.

Steely Dan
Nov 30, 2006, 4:03 PM
I shocked at how few 500 ft. buildings Toronto has considering how much attention the city gets on this thread.

because, as i said before, toronto has thousands and thousands of highrises, they just don't have a great deal of 'em that stretch over 500', which really ain't that big of a deal, because 500' is just a number.

toronto gets so much attention on this forum becuase it has an amazing skyline, certainly top 5 in north america on most people's lists, and it is going through one hell of an impressive growth phase right now.

besides, the city of toronto just plain kicks ass too.

X-fib
Dec 1, 2006, 6:35 PM
^ It is truely sad that LA has such a small amount for being so large.


Thanks to decades of earthquake inspired height restrictions (voluntary or regulated).

Some of the listed cities have impressive looking skylines because what they have in tall buildings are crammed into a relatively small area. Steely how many 500'+ are in the area bordered by Michigan Ave/Randolph/Wacker and Lake Michigan alone?

EtherealMist
Dec 1, 2006, 10:58 PM
looks like nyc is closing in on 200 then

2PRUROCKS!
Dec 1, 2006, 11:10 PM
Steely, I'm not sure how 600 N LSD should be counted. The foundation and parking portion were done but the rest of the tower will be on hold until the north tower is complete or near it. I am confident this one will be completed but it is in a weird catagory that makes figuring out which one will be #100 a little tricky.

Steely Dan
Dec 1, 2006, 11:15 PM
looks like nyc is closing in on 200 then

it sure does. according to the SSP databse, the big apple has 184 500+ footers completed and a further 11 under construction. kinda neat how NYC and chicago are crossing these respective thresholds at roughly the same time. the skyline kings of north america indeed!

Steely Dan
Dec 1, 2006, 11:19 PM
Steely, I'm not sure how 600 N LSD should be counted. The foundation and parking portion were done but the rest of the tower will be on hold until the north tower is complete or near it. I am confident this one will be completed but it is in a weird catagory that makes figuring out which one will be #100 a little tricky.

i forgot about that. although, has it been officially confirmed that they will not just go ahead build both towers at the same time?

i suppose there's always got to be something to make things a little messy. also, if we want to get super-technical, the morrison hotel was a 500+ footer in chicago that was demolished in the '60s to make way for chase plaza (1st national), so if we were doing an all-time list or something, i guess that would be in the mix too.

in the end, i guess it's simply best not to obsess over these things and just be happy that chicago is home to one hell of a mighty skyline :)

Frank 77
Dec 13, 2006, 12:12 PM
what about Frankfurts 500+ towers .I think they are at 11 + 1 . :cool:

Tom In Chicago
Dec 13, 2006, 3:44 PM
Looks like it's time for a year end wrap up. . . I'll put out the numbers today. . .

dave8721
Dec 13, 2006, 4:18 PM
for reference, here's a ranking of major north american cities (excluding NYC & chicago) by the number of 500+ footers.

the formula for the numbers works like this: completed + U/C = total

miami is going absolutely ape-shit with the tall buildings right now

miami: 9 + 24 = 33
houston: 28 + 0 = 28
los angeles: 21 + 0 = 21
san fran: 16 + 2 = 18
dallas: 16 + 1 =17
atlanta: 12 + 5 = 17
toronto: 11 + 5 = 16
boston: 14 + 0 = 14
seattle: 12 + 0 = 12
vegas: 3 + 9 = 12
philly: 9 + 2 = 11


all data from the SSP database

Thats also just Miami's city limits, there are 500+ footers outside of the 36 sq mile city limits (in Miami Beach and Sunny Isles) as well. Miami Beach has 2 and Sunny Isles has 1 completed and at least 3 more under construction (and bunches more on the way).

WhipperSnapper
Dec 13, 2006, 4:34 PM
toronto: 11 + 5 = 16



umm ... it's eight u/c

Arriviste
Dec 13, 2006, 4:58 PM
I know this is a Chicago thread, but you left Calgary off your list will 11 towers over 500 feet, 10 if you don't count the Calgary Tower. Also 1 u/c with at 3 more going up beginning next year.
So as of this moment:

11+1=12 We will never get to 100, but for a city of a million 12 aint bad.

chicubs111
Dec 13, 2006, 5:03 PM
Based on the current boom...it will look like it wont take chicago nearly half as long to get to 200 buildings over 500ft as it did to get to 100. Take into consideration lakeshoreast, new south loop developement , streeterville, and what ever is left in the loop...There is alot for the future to come :)

towerguy3
Dec 13, 2006, 11:57 PM
okay, here's Vancouver chiming in... we currently don't have ANY over 500 feet high. Our tallest is Wall Center at 491 feet. But we have 3 planned at 646 feet, 600 feet and 535 feet. The Living Shangri-La will be at 646 feet when done in 18 months:

http://www.livingshangri-la.com

Chi_Coruscant
Dec 14, 2006, 5:19 AM
There are 19 proposed 500+ ft towers that are known to Chicago forumers. Presuming they definitely will go u/c, it brings us to the total of 122 buildings!

westsider
Dec 14, 2006, 6:57 AM
for reference, here's a ranking of major north american cities (excluding NYC & chicago) by the number of 500+ footers.

the formula for the numbers works like this: completed + U/C = total

miami is going absolutely ape-shit with the tall buildings right now

miami: 9 + 24 = 33
houston: 28 + 0 = 28
los angeles: 21 + 0 = 21
san fran: 16 + 2 = 18
dallas: 16 + 1 =17
atlanta: 12 + 5 = 17
toronto: 11 + 5 = 16
boston: 14 + 0 = 14
seattle: 12 + 0 = 12
vegas: 3 + 9 = 12
philly: 9 + 2 = 11


all data from the SSP database



Portland: 2 + 0 = 2 :tantrum:

Nouvellecosse
Dec 15, 2006, 7:29 AM
Awesome!

my city, Portland, only has 3 buildings over 500' - with nothing ever going to come close!

I need to visit Chicago sometime, methinks. :D
Portland: 2 + 0 = 2 :tantrum:
:shrug:



Anyway, this is a very impressive development indeed! Chicago builts talls at a rate that most cities could only dream of - so much so that it makes it look easy! Keep "up" the good work. :cheers:

FrancoRey
Dec 16, 2006, 6:31 PM
Tear...Denver here...all alone in the middle of the country. We have a pathetic six towers over 500 feet. Cmon and broden it a bit huh? All our skyline comes from zounds of 300-500 footers. Hopefully we can get to 10% of Chi-town in two years:

Current Six:

Republic Plaza 714 ft
1801 California 708 ft
Wells Fargo 698 ft
1999 Broadway 545 ft
707 17th Street 522 ft
555 17th Street 507 ft

Possible Four:
Teatro Four Seasons 752 ft
Trump Tower Denver ~715 ft
Great Gulf Tower ~580 ft
II Tabor Center 500 ft

:banana:

Tom In Chicago
Dec 16, 2006, 7:47 PM
^Unfortunately if we broaden the search the numbers would be even more disparaging to Denver. . .

dbennion
Dec 21, 2006, 3:56 AM
I just discovered these skyscraper forums a couple of months ago, and was quite surprised to learn there was a history of alleged Chicago-Toronto rivalry, which never made sense to me. To my mind, Chicago always had been a much larger town, with much more clout on the world stage, so comparisons were not very appropriate. However Toronto is a nice place to visit, so bring your money on up some short summer :)

As Steely Dan said, the 500 foot level is just a number. Here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=371494) is a 400+ list (also just a number) for Toronto buildings (including all categories including sales, etc, but nearly all really solid because the place is going crazy with cranes) which includes totals of 38 at 500+ feet and another 45 at 400-500 feet. 83 buildings at 400+ feet gives a better feel for the place that I see booming around me, than the '11 + 5' figure in Dan's comparison.

Steely Dan is also correct in that the entire greater Toronto area is dotted with highrise condos and apartment buildings.

Emporis lists Toronto as having 2364 ‘skyscrapers’ and Chicago 1739, although their definition of ‘skyscraper’ is 12+ floors :koko:

Steely Dan
Dec 21, 2006, 5:18 AM
I just discovered these skyscraper forums a couple of months ago, and was quite surprised to learn there was a history of alleged Chicago-Toronto rivalry, which never made sense to me. To my mind, Chicago always had been a much larger town, with much more clout on the world stage, so comparisons were not very appropriate. However Toronto is a nice place to visit, so bring your money on up some short summer :)


it was a rivalry, but it was one based on childish stupidity more than anything else. basically you had a bunch of ignorant chicagoans totally unwilling to accpet the fact that toronto is an awesome city and at the same time you had a bunch of ignorant torontoans totally unwilling to accpet the fact that chicago is an awesome city.

fortunately, all of the nimrods who refused to accept the reality of both cities kicking ass were booted off the forum years ago, and chicago and toronto have enjoyed a very nice peace in SSP-land :)

Chicago & Toronto: the urban jewels of the great lakes!

j korzeniowski
Dec 21, 2006, 5:25 AM
basically you had a bunch of ignorant chicagoans unwilling to accpet the fact that toronto is an awesome city and at the same time you had a bunch of ignorant torontoans unwilling to accpet the fact that chicago is an awesome city.

huh, news to me. i'm a chicagoan and i love toronto, absolutely love the place.

interesting that someone from toronto would consider chicago to have more 'clout' on the world stage. chicago is a bigger town, but being the largest city in a g-7 (or g-8, or g-8 + china, or whatever it is now) country must be worth something -- a great thing that toronto has that chicago lacks is the feeling you are in a media center.

anyways, both great cities, and thank you for pointing out chicago's milestone, steely'. it is a great time to be a chicagoan.

Wheelingman04
Dec 21, 2006, 5:26 AM
^ You are right. They are both great cities.

Steely Dan
Dec 21, 2006, 5:32 AM
huh, news to me. i'm a chicagoan and i love toronto, absolutely love the place.


oh, trust me, i'm a chicagoan through and through (6th generation in fact, and all 8 of my great-grandparents were born in chicago!), and i absolutely love the hell out of toronto too. the rivalry between the two cities on the forum was years ago when guys like dampyre and KGB were still members here. they and their cadres of stupidity have been banned for a good long while now and our forum has been fantastically better off for it.

the urban politician
Dec 21, 2006, 5:41 AM
oh, trust me, i'm a chicagoan through and through (6th generation in fact, and all 8 of my great grandparents were born in chicago!), and i absolutely love the hell out of toronto too. the rivalry between the two cities on the forum was years ago when guys like dampyre and KGB were still members here. they and their cadres of stupidity have been banned for a good long while now and our forum has been fantastically better off for it.

^ Wow, Damp was once a forumer at SSP? I had no idea.

All we ever hear from him now is angry, pessimistic grumbles over at SSC

trvlr70
Dec 21, 2006, 2:18 PM
Chicago & Toronto: the urban jewels of the great lakes!

You're the Dr. Phil of SSP!

dbennion
Dec 21, 2006, 6:40 PM
Thanks for the background. Yes both cities do kick ass. The dynamics of what makes one city blossom and another sink to the bottom, are really interesting. I love Buffalo NY. I remember my mom and dad telling me that Torontonians used to drive to Buffalo to have a good time. As a university student, I did likewise (drinking age difference at that time). Maybe 50-60 years ago, the two cities were approximately the same size and both punched about the same weight .. boring Protestant Toronto then, was a distant second to vibrant exotic Montreal in size and importance.

And then a bunch of stuff happened, and Toronto went one way and Buffalo another (Montreal too, to some extent).

Great site. Thanks. Go Cubbies!

X-fib
Dec 22, 2006, 6:00 PM
Chicago & Toronto: the urban jewels of the great lakes!

Oh Oh! Now I suppose we are going to hear from Milwaukee, Detroit Cleveland etc. etc.

Steely Dan
Dec 22, 2006, 6:10 PM
Oh Oh! Now I suppose we are going to hear from Milwaukee, Detroit Cleveland etc. etc.

oh, don't get me wrong, those are all fine great lakes cities too, but only a fool wouldn't recognize that chicago & toronto do stand taller than the others on the lakes, both literally and figuratively.

X-fib
Dec 22, 2006, 6:26 PM
oh, don't get me wrong, those are all fine great lakes cities too, but only a fool wouldn't recognize that chicago & toronto do stand taller than the others on the lakes, both literally and figuratively.

:yes: Of course. (But I'll let you tell them!;) )

mhays
Dec 22, 2006, 8:27 PM
Seattle's current tallest projects top out at 460' (Olive 8) and 440' (1521 Second). Only one at 500' is likely to be built soon...that's an office tower at 8th & Virginia on a block zoned for 500'. Otherwise, we have lots of 400' proposals but none taller.

Bellevue's zoning tops out at 450'. If the line was 400' it would be 1+3. There's talk of a developer asking for a rezone, so maybe they'll get a 500' project in a few years.

chicubs111
Jan 18, 2007, 12:36 AM
I guess chicago lost a 500 ft building by a few ft with the shorting of Park view west but i guess we can throw the tides in there with its slight height increase...i believe 500ft on the nose if we want to get techincal.

bob1954
Jan 29, 2007, 8:52 AM
Considering it's size of 1.1 million metro, 1 million city, Calgary is listed 11+1 with 3 planned. Actually, there is probably 8-9 in the planning stages, and the city is growing very fast.... they have great summer weather up there too!

BorisMolotov
Feb 1, 2007, 1:16 AM
so they're on 99 rite now, with the legacy, wats gonna be 100?
My bets on Aqua.

X-fib
Feb 2, 2007, 1:05 PM
so they're on 99 rite now, with the legacy, wats gonna be 100?
My bets on Aqua.

If it is Aqua the forum should award a special plaque commemorating the milestone. Seriously!

museumparktom
Feb 2, 2007, 3:18 PM
Steely
Have you updated your numbers with OMPW at 620' that is now in site prep?

Steely Dan
Feb 2, 2007, 3:28 PM
^ no. i kinda lost interest in all this because it's so hard to determine the actual 100th 500 footer, what with some buildings listed at 500', due to rounding, that aren't actually 500', like the tides. and there are buildings like parkview west which everyone thought would be over 500', but turned out to be 496' or something like that. and then there's the morrison hotel that was a 500 footer, but was torn down in the 60s. should it count in chicgao's total? maybe, maybe not. and there's also the ambiguity of construction, does 600 N LSD - south tower really count even though it appears to be "on hold"? should a 500 footer count when it starts construction, is topped out, or completed?

there's just too many technical questions revolving around an arbitrary number for me to care about this anymore. i guess the main thrust of this thread was just "hey everyone, chicago has got a crapload of tall buildings, even more than before."

EtherealMist
Feb 21, 2007, 7:18 PM
Hong Kong has 202 known 500+ footers but I would guess that number is under-counted due to the known unknowns. . . if you know what I mean. . .

Shanghai has 84. . . but no doubt it will surpass Chicago in the coming years. . .

Dubai has 82. . . most of which are under construction. . .

New York City has 192. . .

Dubai has 82 (planned + u/c) ??

I know its going through a monster boom, but that is just nuts for a city of its size.

Alliance
Feb 23, 2007, 7:08 PM
Dubai has a supurb financing system. Chicago uses good old fashioned capitalism.

Paid vs earned?

firstcranialnerve
May 2, 2007, 10:20 PM
I noticed there are a couple of 500+ft buildings that are not yet on the first page of this thread.

155 North Wacker, 150 East Ontario. That takes us well over 100.

Steely Dan
May 2, 2007, 10:29 PM
^ neither of those have begun construction yet.

Dr. Taco
Jun 10, 2008, 5:49 PM
so, hows this going?

Tom In Chicago
Jun 10, 2008, 8:12 PM
COMPLETED = 91
UNDER CONSTRUCTION = 15

Dr. Taco
Jun 10, 2008, 8:52 PM
^ thanks, tom

can anyone tell me if this wave of under-construction buildings will put us past 100 completions?

munda
Jun 11, 2008, 5:23 AM
Chicago should get to 100 around 2012 or early.
most cities took at least a century and/or half a century to reach 100 or close to it, but Dubai is going to achieve that feat in less then 20 years
thats just WOW.....
i bet no one would have imagined that feat being done that quick in this era...
i guess oil pays offfff :haha: :haha: :haha:

M II A II R II K
Jun 11, 2008, 12:44 PM
Most impressive numbers.

Alliance
Jun 11, 2008, 2:41 PM
Maybe to ignore rounding, we should use 501' as the cutoff?

And I think the finish line should be the 100th completed 500'er.

simcityaustin
Jul 25, 2008, 7:50 PM
So do we have an estimate on who will reach 100 first?

Mr Roboto
Jul 25, 2008, 8:21 PM
Totally missed this thread somehow. I thought Chicago was over 100 500'+ buildings by now. Pretty damn cool milestone either way. And what a boom this has been.

aaron38
Jul 29, 2008, 2:43 AM
So do we have an estimate on who will reach 100 first?

Parkview West, 600 N LSD South, The Clare and OMP are all topped out out, so we're effectively at 95.

300 N LaSalle and Trump will take 96 and 97. BCBS will be 98.

That leaves Aqua, Legacy, Elysian, 155 N Wacker and 353 N Clark in the hunt.

Will 155 and 353 top out before Aqua? If so, they get 99 and 100.



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