[ILYR]

You flew alone when you were 5?

Off his garage with a cape!:cheers:

[1ajs]

You flew alone when you were 5?
yea on canada 3000 to visit grandma out in calgary spent the summer out there and spent many summers out there

[newflyer]

Progress continues...

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/292/airportmay292009.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=airportmay292009.jpg)


source: james2010.ca

[J-MAN]

wha you never flew before :O i've been flying since i was a todler and flying solo since i was 5

the terminal is starting to look sad these days like they stoped careing for it real sad :(

and to think i was surprised cullie mccluckin could do it at his younge age ... ;)

http://www.r3d3rb.net/uploads/posts/thumbs/1187083173_home_alone_2_poster.jpg

[1ajs]

hahah yea that was a good movie :P

i gues i am just a well traveled person


my first solo international was coming back from jamiaca

first over seas solo was a year ago when i went to new zealand :D

[Alva360]

Hey guys been a while since I was last on here. Though I check out the threads every now and then.... when you need to find out what's going on in Winnipeg this is definitely the place to come to!

Does anyone know if Winnipeg is providing direct flights to London, England? I believe someone mentioned on here a while back that starting in June or sometime in the summer there would be direct flights coming out of Winnipeg..... can someone perhaps confirm that for me.

I'm looking at heading out there in August and wanted to see if direct flights were available.

Thanks in advanced!

:cheers:

[hexrae]

Lineup of new airport shops announced today (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Lineup-of-new-airport-shops-announced-today-50127852.html)

By: Staff Writer

7/07/2009 8:38 AM | Comments: 0

WINNIPEG - Winnipeggers find out today which restaurants and retailers will be setting up shop in Winnipeg’s new $572-million airport terminal.

Winnipeg Airports Authority has scheduled a news conference for 10 a.m. to unveil the 11 new food outlets and nine new retail stores that will be featured in the new terminal, which is to open late next year.

The new concessionaires have been selected by the WAA and the two international firms that were awarded the master concessions contracts for the terminal — The Paradies Shops and SSP Canada.

The lineup is expected to include a mix of local operators and national chains.

[DowntownWpg]

Hey guys been a while since I was last on here. Though I check out the threads every now and then.... when you need to find out what's going on in Winnipeg this is definitely the place to come to!

Does anyone know if Winnipeg is providing direct flights to London, England? I believe someone mentioned on here a while back that starting in June or sometime in the summer there would be direct flights coming out of Winnipeg..... can someone perhaps confirm that for me.

I'm looking at heading out there in August and wanted to see if direct flights were available.

:cheers:
Not yet, can't say if a direct to London would be available next month, but it isn't at this time. Best bet is to catch a direct from Toronto, or Calgary (believe it or not) with Air Canada.

[Archiseek]

there were direct flights to Gatwick last year but the airline went bust - pity - used it, it was a good service

[pegcity]

From chrisd.ca (http://www.chrisd.ca/blog/11568/airport-unveils-food-beverage-and-retail-tenants-for-new-terminal/)

Pretty good line up as for restaurants. Retail that's a different story, just your typical airport retailers. Hopefully they will have some innovative and new services vending machines, free wifi, cell phone charger wall, public fitness centre, kiosks (internet).


T.G.I. Friday’s-
Stella’s Café and Bakery
Salisbury House
Tim Hortons
Rice Tales
Upper Crust
Gondola Pizza
Starbucks Coffee.

Toad Hall Toys
PGA Tour Shop
CNBC News Winnipeg
McNally Robinson Booksellers
Rosetta Stone
Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory


"The Winnipeg Airports Authority announced the naming of local and national concessionaires for the air new terminal building today.

“We are pleased to be working with master concessionaires The Paradies Shops for retail and SSP Canada who will oversee food and beverage service. Both have a proven track record in an airport environment and we are pleased to have them on board,” said Barry Rempel, President and CEO of Winnipeg Airports Authority.

Calling the James A. Richardson International Airport home will be T.G.I. Friday’s, Stella’s Café and Bakery, Winnipeg’s legendary Salisbury House, Tim Hortons, Rice Tales, Upper Crust, Gondola Pizza and Starbucks Coffee.

As for retail, various full-service news and gift stores will be present, along with some notable brands. Among the retailers will be Toad Hall Toys, PGA Tour Shop, CNBC News Winnipeg (a first to the Canadian market), McNally Robinson Booksellers and Rosetta Stone. Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory will also have a storefront in the new air terminal building."

[MalcolmTucker]

Not yet, can't say if a direct to London would be available next month, but it isn't at this time. Best bet is to catch a direct from Toronto, or Calgary (believe it or not) with Air Canada.

Better believe it! 3 direct flights a day! Plus two to FRA and one to AMS!

[drew]

^ not to take anything away from Calgary, but it seems ridiculous that a market approximatley 35% larger can support 6 DAILY flights to Europe, and we can't even be given a once a week, seasonal, nadda.

I understand that Calgary has a larger business market, Banff, the Rockies etc. but surely the Winnipeg market could be expected to sustain at least a couple flights a week to major European markets. I really hope we see changes on this front when the new terminal opens.

[Spocket]

^Actually that makes a certain amount of sense. Calgary is simply serving the role of air-hub and that's most likely because it provides the greatest number of western Canadian business travellers to the destinations in question.

[drew]

^ true, but Edmonton also has several non-stops to Europe and they are a much closer market to the "hub" than Winnipeg is.

[DowntownWpg]

^ not to take anything away from Calgary, but it seems ridiculous that a market approximatley 35% larger can support 6 DAILY flights to Europe, and we can't even be given a once a week, seasonal, nadda.

I understand that Calgary has a larger business market, Banff, the Rockies etc. but surely the Winnipeg market could be expected to sustain at least a couple flights a week to major European markets. I really hope we see changes on this front when the new terminal opens.
Totally agree. I would also like to see at least one other major US airline come to and from Winnipeg regularly. Northwest is okay, and I don't mind transferring in Minneapolis (good airport and I'm now familiar with it), but some more options would be nice for flying to US destinations.

[Nigel]

^Actually that makes a certain amount of sense. Calgary is simply serving the role of air-hub and that's most likely because it provides the greatest number of western Canadian business travellers to the destinations in question.

Granted, but this is where the whole "hub" business should stop. Winnipeg is building a brand new airport that is significantly larger than the older one. Winnipeg's passenger service is growing. I for one am sick and tired of having to wait around in the Calgary airport for transferring to Regina, Saskatoon, Los Angeles, Dallas, New York, and yes, London, Eng. This needs to change. Winnipeggers should not put up with this. I know that some airports across canada are advertising to provide strong support for their airports to provide more non-stop flights to destinations around Canada and the world. Winnipeg should do the same. I think we can easily support year-round non-stop service to England, and even Iceland and out to Manila. We have a strong and growing economy. People are moving here and wanting to travel and visit here. We need to start becoming more independant from cities like Calgary. Toronto, well the entire country pretty much transferrs in Toronto, so unfortunately I don't see this changing anytime soon.

[MalcolmTucker]

Air travel is highly correlative to how many high income families you have in your market, and how many head office professionals. Calgary scores high on both fronts. Not sure about Winnipeg. Also that Winnipeg has to compete with the Twin Cities and Chicago doesn't help.

[drew]

^ for trans-border travel, I doubt Winnipeg competes at all with American airports.

As for the amount of high income and head office jobs, currently Winnipeg has zero trans-border options daily and Calgary has 6. Certainly Calgary doesn't have 6 times more of either of these people or jobs compared to Winnipeg.

But again, I do think it's time Winnipeg was served with at the very least a seasonal or once weekly direct flights across the Atlantic.

[Pegger5]

From chrisd.ca (http://www.chrisd.ca/blog/11568/airport-unveils-food-beverage-and-retail-tenants-for-new-terminal/)

Pretty good line up as for restaurants. Retail that's a different story, just your typical airport retailers. Hopefully they will have some innovative and new services vending machines, free wifi, cell phone charger wall, public fitness centre, kiosks (internet).


T.G.I. Friday’s-
Stella’s Café and Bakery
Salisbury House
Tim Hortons
Rice Tales
Upper Crust
Gondola Pizza
Starbucks Coffee.

Toad Hall Toys
PGA Tour Shop
CNBC News Winnipeg
McNally Robinson Booksellers
Rosetta Stone
Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory


"The Winnipeg Airports Authority announced the naming of local and national concessionaires for the air new terminal building today.

“We are pleased to be working with master concessionaires The Paradies Shops for retail and SSP Canada who will oversee food and beverage service. Both have a proven track record in an airport environment and we are pleased to have them on board,” said Barry Rempel, President and CEO of Winnipeg Airports Authority.

Calling the James A. Richardson International Airport home will be T.G.I. Friday’s, Stella’s Café and Bakery, Winnipeg’s legendary Salisbury House, Tim Hortons, Rice Tales, Upper Crust, Gondola Pizza and Starbucks Coffee.

As for retail, various full-service news and gift stores will be present, along with some notable brands. Among the retailers will be Toad Hall Toys, PGA Tour Shop, CNBC News Winnipeg (a first to the Canadian market), McNally Robinson Booksellers and Rosetta Stone. Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory will also have a storefront in the new air terminal building."

As a person that travels all over Canada (including Winnipeg) and Western North America on over a 100 segments a year. These are the perfect venues for an airport. Glad to see SALS and Gondola in there as well as McNally's. Also of course and thankfully...my favorite- Starbucks!!!

[MalcolmTucker]

A good resource for you to need would be :

[PDF] The Edmonton and Calgary Aviation Markets - A Tale of Two More Cities (http://dsp-psd.tpsgc.gc.ca/Collection/Statcan/51-502-X/51-502-XIE2004001.pdf)

As an illustrative point, average family income in Winnipeg in 2005 was $61,600, whereas Calgary was $75,400. That extra income could indicate a 'tipping point' in accessing travel.

I can only find data on transborder, but these numbers (http://dsp-psd.pwgsc.gc.ca/collection_2009/statcan/51-205-X/51-205-x2007000-eng.pdf) may be the most illustrative. They represent total number of people traveling from and to cities including ones that transfer through other airports. In 2007 Calgary had 1.738 million transborder journeys by air where it was either the origin or destination. Winnipeg had 432.4 thousand. Since this number does not include those hubbing through in Calgary, and does include those in Winnipeg who do hub through other cities the difference in air travel is much higher than one would predict.

You have to think of it as a tipping point, once you are able to successfully support one service, you can all of a sudden support many, whether that reason is income, business environment or network effect. Calgary had no daily flights to New York 5 years ago, then Continental started a 2 times a week flight. By a year ago there were 5 flights a day and today it has stabilized at two flights a day.

[Andy6]

^ for trans-border travel, I doubt Winnipeg competes at all with American airports.

As for the amount of high income and head office jobs, currently Winnipeg has zero trans-border options daily and Calgary has 6. Certainly Calgary doesn't have 6 times more of either of these people or jobs compared to Winnipeg.


Really? I would have thought that 6x would be an underestimate, if anything. Certainly in the legal industry, which I'm familiar with, there would easily be 6 times as many people in Calgary making, say, $300k or more (or whatever figure you'd want to choose as high income).

[jmt18325]

As an illustrative point, average family income in Winnipeg in 2005 was $61,600, whereas Calgary was $75,400. That extra income could indicate a 'tipping point' in accessing travel.



I would say (and this would just be a guess) that those numbers are not very valid anymore. Manitoba only really started to take off in terms of growth (both economic and population wise) in 2004 - 2005. We are now much better off than we were in 2005.

[DowntownWpg]

WestJet to add 11 new routes

CALGARY — The Canadian Press
Last updated on Wednesday, Jul. 08, 2009 12:00PM EDT

WestJet (WJA-T10.29-0.31-2.92%) to add 11 new destinations in U.S. and Caribbean next winter, biggest single expansion for airline.

More to come.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/westjet-to-add-11-new-routes/article1210774/

******

Hopefully, Winnipeg gets one or more of those new routes. No info yet indicating specifics (from what city, to what city) about the new routes.

[1ajs]

all calgary i bet

[newflyer]

New airport terminal goes big on Manitoba
Decidedly hometown flavour for retailers and restaurants
By: Murray McNeill



For air travellers arriving home, they'll be reminders of why it's good to be back. And for those flying out, they'll be reminders of what they'll be missing while they're gone.

On Tuesday, Winnipeg Airports Authority unveiled 13 of the 21 restaurants and retailers that will be setting up shop next year in its spanking new international airport terminal. And the lineup has a decidedly Manitoba flavour, with five iconic Winnipeg eateries and retailers.

For those pining for a classic taste of Winnipeg, they can grab a Sals nip at the Salisbury House of Canada outlet, a savoury sandwich from Stella's Cafe & Bakery, or a cheese and pepperoni pizza from Gondola Pizza.

And for those looking for a distinctly Manitoba gift, how about Miriam Toews' latest novel from the McNally Robinson Booksellers store, or a doll from the Toad Hall Toys shop.

There will also be plenty of recognizable names for non-local travellers who prefer to stick with something more familiar, such as gourmet coffee from Starbucks or Tim Hortons, golf gear from PGA Tour Shops, or a meal from T.G.I. Fridays.

They're also be at least eight other restaurant and retail operations to choose from, although they haven't been selected yet by the two international firms that hold the master concession contracts for the new Richardson International Airport terminal -- SSP Canada, which is overseeing the food and beverage concessions, and The Paradies Shops, overseeing the retail operations.

They'll include four news-and-gifts shops and a number of vending-machine and retail kiosk operators.

The five Winnipeg-based operators unveiled at Tuesday's news conference were all hand-picked by SSP Canada and The Paradies Shops to give travellers a good taste of what Winnipeg is all about.

Officials for four of the operators who were on hand Tuesday said they were thrilled to have been selected.

"This will be a pretty high-class building," Stella's owner Tore Sohlberg said in an interview.

McNally Robinson spokesman Chris Hall and Toad Hall manager Kari England said they're looking forward to the added exposure an airport outlet will give their family owned businesses.

"Lots of people have still not been inside a McNally Robinson store, so this will be an opportunity to introduce ourselves to a lot more people," Hall said. "It's both a store and an advertisement of sorts."

"Not everybody when they visit the city goes to the downtown area or necessarily seeks out the local businesses," England said. "So I'm thrilled. I think it's a unique opportunity for us."

Salisbury House CEO Earl Barish said an airport concession is a natural progression for the locally owned restaurant chain, which in recent years has opened concession stands or kiosks in a number of hospitals, golf courses and sports venues, including Canwest Global Park and Canad Inns stadium.

"It's part of our new thrust," Barish said, adding the kiosks and concession stands nicely complement the chain's full-service restaurants.

Because air travellers spend a lot more time in the post-security area than they used to, the bulk of the retail and restaurant outlets will be located in that part of the new terminal and therefore won't be available to the non-travelling public.

The exceptions will be Stella's, Tim Hortons, two of the news and gift shops, and some of the vending machines and retail kiosks.

Sohlberg said he was relieved to hear that Stella's restaurant will be located in the public area. That way anyone can pop in for a bite.

WAA CEO Barry Rempel also updated the media and invited guests on the status of the WAA's $572-million airport redevelopment, which got underway in 2005 and includes construction of the 549,000-square-foot terminal, new aircraft parking pads and taxiways, new public roadways, a 1,600-stall parkade, and upgrades to the central powerhouse.

He said the total project is about two-thirds complete, and by this time next year the terminal should also be in the final stages of construction.

murray.mcneill@freepress.mb.ca




They're the lucky 13
Here are 13 restaurant and retail outlets that will be setting up shop in Winnipeg's new international airport terminal, expected to open late next year:



Local operators:

Salisbury House of Canada, best known for its Sals nips (hamburgers), hot dogs, french fries and pastries.

Gondola Pizza, known for its pizzas, pasta dishes, ribs, chicken wings and salads.

Stella's Cafe & Bakery, which specializes in home-made breads, cinnamon buns, soups, sandwiches, salads and desserts.

McNally Robinson Booksellers, a full-service bookstore known for carrying a broad selection of titles from local authors.

Toad Hall Toys, an "old-world" toy shop whose products include exquisite dolls, miniature puppets, musical toys, science kits, and arts and crafts supplies.



National and international operators:

Starbucks Coffee, an international specialty coffee/restaurant chain.

Tim Hortons Inc., Canada's largest specialty coffee/restaurant chain.

T.G.I. Friday's, a U.S.-based, family-restaurant chain.

Rice Tales, a contemporary Asian, quick-serve, restaurant chain offering a variety of Japanese, Chinese, Thai and Filipino dishes.

Upper Crust Bakery, a U.K.-based chain best known for its freshly baked French baguettes. Also carries an extensive selection of gourmet salads and fresh pastries.

PGA Tour Shops, a U.S.-based retailer offering both men's and women's golf and leisure apparel and accessories.

Rosetta Stone, one of the world's leading language companies that sells specialty CDs and other computer-based language-learning products.

CNBC News, which offers in-store broadcasts of CNBC business news programs and carries a broad range of traditional newsstand products, including books, magazines and convenience items.



-- Source: SSP Canada and The Paradise Shops

Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition July 8, 2009 B6

[newflyer]

I am looking forward having our own Upper Crust Bakery.... it will be a really nice outlet for our new airport.

I am also happy that the new terminal will have a highend business/news outlet. The CNBC News I have been to have been very nice places to shop and makes a popular shop for the business traveler and casual traveler alike.

I wish downtown Winnipeg had a few of the shops listed for the airport, including TGI Fridays. A great chain which I have visited in a few different US cities, including the flagship on the Magficient Mile in Chicago and have always enjoyed them.

[nordique]

most importantly: will the ARCADE be present in the new terminal???

[hexrae]

most importantly: will the ARCADE be present in the new terminal???

:tup: :haha:

[wags_in_the_peg]

TGI Fridays in Minneapolis Airport SUCKS bad, but your right it's a "chain" that some folks would love to see.

[nordique]

seriously, the airport arcade is one of the last in the city, which is pretty sad.

if i ever come across a winning lottery ticket, i'm opening up an arcade on selkirk avenue.

[drew]

^ better get good fire insurance... assuming you can get insurance at all.

[Coldrsx]

TGI Fridays in Minneapolis Airport SUCKS bad, but your right it's a "chain" that some folks would love to see.

concur in full.. luckily the 'surf bar' was open.

[1ajs]

seriously, the airport arcade is one of the last in the city, which is pretty sad.

if i ever come across a winning lottery ticket, i'm opening up an arcade on selkirk avenue.


:O dude i know the perfect building to the old theater and hell u could have them done up for dimes lol the kids would eat that up and have free game days and all sorts of fun stuff u would have one hell of a hit but the kids would be a bit ruff on some of the stuff as kids are

[1ajs]

^ better get good fire insurance... assuming you can get insurance at all.

if the kids are having fun they aint guna burn the place down

[wags_in_the_peg]

there's still "sorta" arcades in Silver City St. Vital and Polo Park that I'm familiar with.

I miss the days of catching the #16 bus from Southdale and going to "Las Vegas Amusements" on Hargrave, across from the bay. That was one shady place of a pool hall. MagicLand on Portage was a good time too. And I was 12 -14 at the time. Don't think kids under 15 nowadays are allowed to leave Mommy side

[1ajs]

theres a pool hall still there with a small arcade called vaughn st billiards i went there a couple times in highschool with my friends and rednted a table for couple hrs

[Nigel]

if the kids are having fun they aint guna burn the place down

Dude, it's Selkirk Avenue and in the North End; chances are there will be a fire within a 20 m radius within the first month of the place if it opens.

[1ajs]

Dude, it's Selkirk Avenue and in the North End; chances are there will be a fire within a 20 m radius within the first month of the place if it opens.
dumpster fires yea...... if the area was so bad for buring things down though there would be no buildings left on selkirk


dude shuv the atitude up ur ass though thats why the north end has problems people go eh its the north end to much and just let the problems fester rather then do somthing about it thuse we have kids who don't care

[Nigel]

dumpster fires yea...... if the area was so bad for buring things down though there would be no buildings left on selkirk


dude shuv the atitude up ur ass though thats why the north end has problems people go eh its the north end to much and just let the problems fester rather then do somthing about it thuse we have kids who don't care

I might take you seriously if you could actually spell. BTW, take your post and shove it up your ass ;)

Anywho, back to the topic at hand. I get more and more excited about the airport opening; it can only mean more opportunity for Winnipeg and Manitoba. I really like the "Made in Winnipeg" flavor of the restaurants of choice. :tup:

[1ajs]

no you :P

anyhow

what about gunss though nothing says winnipeg more then gunns

[Nigel]

delete post

[1ajs]

now i have a craving for gunns aww to hell with it i'm going for a walk

[mjpaul]

Better believe it! 3 direct flights a day! Plus two to FRA and one to AMS!


Calgary.!....My fav big city.


I will be aboard this beauty come November. (to FRA)
(http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24448989)

I am amazed at how Busy YYC is. That new runway is badly needed.

[mjpaul]

^ not to take anything away from Calgary, but it seems ridiculous that a market approximatley 35% larger can support 6 DAILY flights to Europe, and we can't even be given a once a week, seasonal, nadda.

I understand that Calgary has a larger business market, Banff, the Rockies etc. but surely the Winnipeg market could be expected to sustain at least a couple flights a week to major European markets. I really hope we see changes on this front when the new terminal opens.

Provincial populations of Alta and Man need to be considered as well.

Manitoba has a small population and no major draw for international tourists.

Germans in particular know about Calgary and the region interests them.


Saskatoon has made a European destination a main priority for their wish list of flights. That i cant see happening.

[ILYR]

Major update and new layout to the http://www.james2010.ca/ site, including the new floor plans for the airport showing where all the new shops will be.

[Alva360]

Major update and new layout to the http://www.james2010.ca/ site, including the new floor plans for the airport showing where all the new shops will be.


Just checked it out......

Not one, but two TGI Friday's!!!! and a PGA Tour Golf Shop!!!! Holy Shit!!! :eeekk: :eek:

I'll be hanging out at the airport just for those being there.... :banana:

[The Jabroni]

Nice!! :D

[Mrj]

They've done a very nice job of setting up good concessions. A nice cross-section of choices, I think both connecting passengers as well as origin/destination passengers will be impressed. I particularly like Stella's being there - I had been hoping for it. There's so many Chili's and McDonald's locations at airports, Stella's is a refreshing alternative. I'll show up early just to have breakfast there. Just wish the TGI Friday's location in the US precleared area was a Stella's instead... (I kind of like Friday's, but I usually go to the US in the mornings, so I want breakfast, darnit).

Retail-wise, I don't really shop at airports. Books and music and postcards are good to have, but I don't really care about PGA or CNBC. Ideally they'd have the Western Canada Aviation Museum set up a satellite location of their shop in the terminal, that would definitely interest me more...

[newflyer]

I am really looking forward to seeing this terminal when its finished. I plan on making very good use of it. I really like all of the announced outlets announced so far. There are a couple really nice places places for breakfast and a great news stand (CBNC), which will broadcast businsess news. The PGA shop will also be a nice place to shop. Having a Fridays and Sals will make a great places for lunch.

Winnipeg should be very proud of the building... we will have the nicest terminal in the country.

[h0twired]

The PGA shop will also be a nice place to shop.

For what? Overpriced golf balls?

[rrskylar]

Notice to those parking at the airport, do not leave valuables visible in your vehicle and make sure vehicle is locked once the new bus terminal opens and the bus terminal crowd starts loitering in the area!;)

[UrbanPlannerr]

Just checked it out......

Not one, but two TGI Friday's!!!!

The airport must be pretty big compared to the last one :cheers:

[1ajs]

try 3 or 4 times the size...

[newflyer]

For what? Overpriced golf balls?

I shopped at a PGA shop... picked up a couple really nice shirts and a PGA tour cap. It may not be for everyone, but I really enjoyed it.

There is also talk of a Harley Davidson apparal shop .. going into one of the remaining retail slots.

[rrskylar]

I bet a WWE shop in the new bus terminal would be a great success.;)

[grumpy old man]

I bet a WWE shop in the new bus terminal would be a great success.;)
:lmao:

[swolfe]

New terminal rising at Winnipeg airport
State-of-the-art facility to open in 2010
By: Geoff Kirbyson

11/09/2009 1:00 AM

The sparks are flying, power tools are whirring and workers in hard hats are scurrying around.

Even though the new terminal building at the Richardson International Airport is just two-thirds complete, it's easy to see how it will be a drastic change from the one it's replacing.

Much of the glass that will serve as the front and back walls of the $585-million project has already been installed, an architectural feature that not only lets in an abundance of natural light but will let travellers see the nose of their plane from the time they park their vehicles.

"We often get asked if there will be an observation lounge. The whole place will be an observation lounge. You'll be able to observe landings and take-offs from anywhere in the building, regardless of whether you're a passenger or a meet-and-greeter," said Christine Alongi, a Winnipeg Airports Authority spokeswoman, during a tour of the terminal building construction site.

The state-of-the-art facility is scheduled to open sometime in 2010.

Some areas, such as the concourse area in the west side of the building, are already finished. In the meantime, between 450 and 500 workers, many of them subcontractors handling electrical, mechanical, steel, glass and other duties, will descend on the site every day.

The building they're erecting will be 70 per cent more energy efficient than the current terminal.

That's because of unique features such as radiant floor heating, which uses pipes carrying hot liquid to heat the floors, and holes that will circulate air in passenger areas to create an "air curtain" about 1.8 to two metres high but which won't extend to the high ceilings.

"We only want to heat the spaces where the passengers are," Alongi said.

Perhaps the biggest difference passengers will notice is the departure area, which will be on the second floor and completely separate from the arrivals area on the floor below.

"The customer flow won't be as confusing. Today they're both on the same level and you often have passengers bumping luggage," she said, noting the departures roadway is nearing completion.

Another major change will be common-use gates.

Instead of Air Canada and WestJet having their own dedicated check-in and baggage drop-off areas, gates will be shared by whichever carrier needs it at the time. Signage will be dynamic and the logos and messages will change depending on which carrier is at the gate.

The breakdown of concessions will be reversed from the current setup, where 70 per cent of food and beverage providers and retailers are pre-security and 30 per cent are after you've had your carry-on luggage X-rayed. That's to conform to post-9-11 security regulations.

And for the first time, international passengers will have a view of downtown Winnipeg and nearby landmarks such as Canad Inns Stadium.

Alongi said the current terminal building will be demolished sometime in 2010 or 2011 once the new one is up and running. She said the WAA has received a number of suggestions for a send-off, including a concert, a social or even use it as a movie set.

[Andy6]

I like how they slip in the bit about demolishing the current building as though it is just an uncontroversial minor detail. When was that decided?

[1ajs]

over a year ago
they cound't find anyone willing to take it over kinda sad

[newflyer]

Calgary.!....My fav big city.


I will be aboard this beauty come November. (to FRA)
(http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24448989)

I am amazed at how Busy YYC is. That new runway is badly needed.


Not to burst your bubble ... Calgary is a nice city, but its really not that big. Although I guess compared to Moose Jaw it might seem that way.

You should spend some time in a real "big city" and you would quickly notice a very real difference. I remember a while back a friend of mine described Calgary as a nice small town, but of course his perspective was of a large urban environment. A large amount of airport traffic going through Calgary is due to the fact it is the primary hub of West Jet. People flying in from many smaller centres in western Canada to connect onto other flights.

[newflyer]

New terminal rising at Winnipeg airport
State-of-the-art facility to open in 2010
By: Geoff Kirbyson

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The sparks are flying, power tools are whirring and workers in hard hats are scurrying around.

Even though the new terminal building at the Richardson International Airport is just two-thirds complete, it's easy to see how it will be a drastic change from the one it's replacing.

Much of the glass that will serve as the front and back walls of the $585-million project has already been installed, an architectural feature that not only lets in an abundance of natural light but will let travellers see the nose of their plane from the time they park their vehicles.

"We often get asked if there will be an observation lounge. The whole place will be an observation lounge. You'll be able to observe landings and take-offs from anywhere in the building, regardless of whether you're a passenger or a meet-and-greeter," said Christine Alongi, a Winnipeg Airports Authority spokeswoman, during a tour of the terminal building construction site.

The state-of-the-art facility is scheduled to open sometime in 2010.

Some areas, such as the concourse area in the west side of the building, are already finished. In the meantime, between 450 and 500 workers, many of them subcontractors handling electrical, mechanical, steel, glass and other duties, will descend on the site every day.

The building they're erecting will be 70 per cent more energy efficient than the current terminal.

That's because of unique features such as radiant floor heating, which uses pipes carrying hot liquid to heat the floors, and holes that will circulate air in passenger areas to create an "air curtain" about 1.8 to two metres high but which won't extend to the high ceilings.

"We only want to heat the spaces where the passengers are," Alongi said.

Perhaps the biggest difference passengers will notice is the departure area, which will be on the second floor and completely separate from the arrivals area on the floor below.

"The customer flow won't be as confusing. Today they're both on the same level and you often have passengers bumping luggage," she said, noting the departures roadway is nearing completion.

Another major change will be common-use gates.

Instead of Air Canada and WestJet having their own dedicated check-in and baggage drop-off areas, gates will be shared by whichever carrier needs it at the time. Signage will be dynamic and the logos and messages will change depending on which carrier is at the gate.

The breakdown of concessions will be reversed from the current setup, where 70 per cent of food and beverage providers and retailers are pre-security and 30 per cent are after you've had your carry-on luggage X-rayed. That's to conform to post-9-11 security regulations.

And for the first time, international passengers will have a view of downtown Winnipeg and nearby landmarks such as Canad Inns Stadium.

Alongi said the current terminal building will be demolished sometime in 2010 or 2011 once the new one is up and running. She said the WAA has received a number of suggestions for a send-off, including a concert, a social or even use it as a movie set.

geoff.kirbyson@freepress.mb.ca




Plenty of work to go around

The new terminal building at Richardson International Airport is two-thirds complete and on schedule for a 2010 opening. Here are some facts about its construction:

It will require 4,500 metric tonnes of steel, more than 12,000 cubic metres of concrete and 10,000 square metres of glass.

Up to 500 workers are on site every day. Construction passed the 195-million-hour mark last month.

It is generating about 6,500 person-years of employment with an economic output of more than $1 billion.

Thus far, one kilometre of electrical conduit has been laid in cable trays for security and telecommunications, with more to come.

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THE biggest difference passengers will notice is the departure area will be on the second floor and completely separate from the arrivals area on the floor below.

'The customer flow won't be as confusing' -- Christine Alongi, a Winnipeg Airports Authority spokeswoman




Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition September 11, 2009 A6

[newflyer]

I really don't think Winnipeg completly realizes what a dramatic improvement this facility will make. The least of which being the number of new flights which will be available once it opens. The current terminal has been at maximum flight capacity during peak periods for many years and the new one will add many new slots.

It will simply be the nicest air terminal in Canada ... with its ultra modern design, large glass walls and a full slate of ammenities, including what will be Canada's 3rd Five Star hotel ... and it will be very impressive.

Opening day could not come soon enough.. and I plan to book a flight through it once that day arives. The future JAR will be a jewel .. and I am really looking forward to taking it all in.

[Andy6]

I really don't think Winnipeg completly realizes what a dramatic improvement this facility will make. The least of which being the number of new flights which will be available once it opens. The current terminal has been at maximum flight capacity during peak periods for many years and the new one will add many new slots.

It will simply be the nicest air terminal in Canada ... with its ultra modern design, large glass walls and a full slate of ammenities, including what will be Canada's 3rd Five Star hotel ... and it will be very impressive.

Opening day could not come soon enough.. and I plan to book a flight through it once that day arives. The future JAR will be a jewel .. and I am really looking forward to taking it all in.

I doubt it will be any different than dozens of other overpriced airport terminals that have been built lately. They all have ultra modern design, large glass walls and full slates of amenities. What would really have been distinctive and impressive would have been to remodel and expand the existing terminal, which is a classic of modernist architecture that no other city can match (because the other ones have been torn down). It will be nice to have a more functional terminal but I will sure miss the sense of arrival you get coming down that escalator, a reminder of a time when air travel was something special and when the excitement of an airport wasn't that it had a franchised PGA golfball store.

[newflyer]

The ultra modern terminal is beyond the visual design, which I really do like. I have been to many other modern terminals and have found many of them to be much nicer places to be. The new terminals in Seoul Korea and Singapore left me in awe, with its large open concepts and huge glass walls. The new Winnipeg terminal will be along those lines on a smaller scale. In addition it will be very efficient with geo heated floors and natural lite areas throughout. The 1950's are long gone and the thrill of flying no longer replaces the need to have a terminal which provides passenger convience and ammenities. Today's flyers have higher expectations of airports, although you don't have to visit the PGA shop if you don't want to.

I have never been a fan of the old terminal. I have found it to be small, dark and uninspired... concrete walls just don't do it for me, but to each there own. Although I always enjoyed seeing the large "Winnipeg" sign apon the arrival of the airline to the current building.

[g35]

The downstairs part isn't so exciting but the upstairs where you wait for your plane is really nice IMO. All the black beams just outside the glass actually look "futuristic" to me. And the silver/black theme is cool too. The rest is pretty 50s/60s/whatever though.

[Andy6]

Taking the escalator down to meet those who are waiting for you below is a totally different, and much better, experience than wandering out through mazes of corridors and security doors like you do at newer airports. One of the simple pleasures of life is extinguished, alas. All because 21st century man can't bear an airport that doesn't offer him the opportunity to buy golf balls.

[0773|=\]

It's all about first impressions, and the more I look at renderings and photos of this new terminal, the more I get excited for Winnipeg. I hope the city finds a way to place local artwork throughout their new terminal to give its passengers (especially ones that are just connecting) a flavour for what Winnipeg is all about.

I do find it a shame that the old terminal is getting torn down. There are elements of its architecture that are disappearing at an alarming rate everywhere else, and now it's happening here. An aviation museum could really benefit from a facility built during the height of the jet-age. It would display the human element that went into the design of a building at a time when flying jets was new and exciting.

I think the next thing Winnipeg should focus on is changing the streetscape of Wellington Avenue between the terminal and Route 90. Keep that positive first impression going on the drive into the city.

[newflyer]

I think the next thing Winnipeg should focus on is changing the streetscape of Wellington Avenue between the terminal and Route 90. Keep that positive first impression going on the drive into the city.


I completely agree with you. First impressions and image are very important for the city. The Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce has also been pushing for this for years as well. Of course it costs money to improve the streetscape, but I think it would be a vey worthwhile expense for the city. I think part of the city's hospilality tax should goto upgrading the airport route to downtown.

[0773|=\]

Right. And really, a few small investments make a big difference. Just burying some of those telephone and electrical lines does a lot to the aesthetics of a street. Then landscaping in front of the parking lots and you've got a much nicer looking street.

[Pegger5]

Taking the escalator down to meet those who are waiting for you below is a totally different, and much better, experience than wandering out through mazes of corridors and security doors like you do at newer airports. One of the simple pleasures of life is extinguished, alas. All because 21st century man can't bear an airport that doesn't offer him the opportunity to buy golf balls.

I guess you enjoyed the old Terminal 2 in Toronto versus the new terminal ? Nothing like living in the past !:shrug:

[JayM]

Not to burst your bubble ... Calgary is a nice city, but its really not that big. Although I guess compared to Moose Jaw it might seem that way.

You should spend some time in a real "big city" and you would quickly notice a very real difference. I remember a while back a friend of mine described Calgary as a nice small town, but of course his perspective was of a large urban environment. A large amount of airport traffic going through Calgary is due to the fact it is the primary hub of West Jet. People flying in from many smaller centres in western Canada to connect onto other flights.

Yeah there use to be a direct flight from Winnipeg>Regina and Regina>Winnipeg but now that flight goes to Calgary. So Winnipeg>Calgary>Regina and Regina>Calgary>Winnipeg. I took the Winnipeg>Regina and Regina>Winnipeg flight and there was pretty much a full flight so i have no idea why they would reroute this flight and piss people off by waiting 1-2hrs in Calgary.

[ILYR]

Yeah there use to be a direct flight from Winnipeg>Regina and Regina>Winnipeg but now that flight goes to Calgary. So Winnipeg>Calgary>Regina and Regina>Calgary>Winnipeg. I took the Winnipeg>Regina and Regina>Winnipeg flight and there was pretty much a full flight so i have no idea why they would reroute this flight and piss people off by waiting 1-2hrs in Calgary.

That flight makes no sense. Flight time alone would be 3.5 hours, so add in airport/transfer time, you would be better off driving.

Note that AirCanada still offers direct flights between Regina and Winnipeg, and Saskatoon and Winnipeg. I suspect Air canada will keep these flights as there is no longer any competition. Also West Jet only operates 737, whereas Air Canada can use some of its smaller Bombardier regional jets, or even a Dash-8 for those flights.

[newflyer]

That would be the day ... spend over 5 hours to fly to Regina from Winnipeg. :rolleyes:

[1ajs]

who knows things might change with the new terinal when it comes online

[YWG - YOW - YUL]

Taking the escalator down to meet those who are waiting for you below is a totally different, and much better, experience than wandering out through mazes of corridors and security doors like you do at newer airports. One of the simple pleasures of life is extinguished, alas. All because 21st century man can't bear an airport that doesn't offer him the opportunity to buy golf balls.

I have to completely agree with your sentiment on this one. I have always liked the layout of our airport because it is very simple and compact compared to most other airports (like the Philadelphia Airport where I had to run around for hours because my transferring flight was missed. Not a fun time.) There are many quirks about our airport that I will definitely miss when it is replaced and the drama of taking that escalator down to meet your friends and family is one of them. That being said, the building DEFINITELY is of age and needs to be replaced.

The downstairs part isn't so exciting but the upstairs where you wait for your plane is really nice IMO. All the black beams just outside the glass actually look "futuristic" to me. And the silver/black theme is cool too. The rest is pretty 50s/60s/whatever though.

I would actually love our airport if only there were some renovations. The check-in and retail portion is very retro looking but I feel it is very much ruined by the many burnt out lights in the roof panels as well as the stained white floors that look very worn down and dreary. I could also live without the extremely dated wall art on the North and South walls, but many people seem to love those...

[newflyer]

who knows things might change with the new terinal when it comes online

I actually think this is partially due to do with West Jet logistics in regards to smaller cities like Regina. They have descided to run passengers through the hub (Calgary) as a means to maximize flight utilization efficiency. The Winnipeg airport slots which were once utilized by such flights have been replaced by other flights to other cities. The current terminal is running beyond capacity during peak periods and can not handle any more, so rationalization has become a nessesity. Of course once the new terminal is open and running there will be many more flight slots open which will result in many more flights servicing our city.

[sledhead35]

Winnipeg's Richardson International Airport is getting some unlikely competition from its puny siblings in North Dakota, in a battle that's giving Manitobans -- and other Canadians living in cities all along the border -- cut-rate fares to sunshine destinations and elsewhere.

Winnipeg Airports Authority says it's starting to feel the effect of the growing trickle of Manitobans heading to Grand Forks and Fargo to take advantage of low-cost airfares to places like Las Vegas and Orlando for half the cost of the same flight from Winnipeg.

Return fares to Las Vegas from Grand Forks on Allegiant Air, for example, can run as low as US$206, while Air Canada's lowest rate for the first week of October via Denver is C$464.49 (taxes and fees included in both fares).

The deals are only going to get better as the loonie rises to what some expect will be parity with the U.S. dollar.

Barry Rempel, CEO of Winnipeg Airports Authority, says it's time for the federal government to level the playing field between Canadian and American airports.

The issue has been brought into focus for Rempel with the development of a new terminal at Grand Forks International Airport and the arrival of low-cost scheduled carrier Allegiant, with direct flights to Las Vegas. Later this fall, the airline will introduce flights to Phoenix and Grand Forks Regional Airport Authority officials say they're hoping the niche airline will add more destinations in the future. The airline also flies out of Fargo and Bismarck.

Las Vegas-based Allegiant Air makes no bones about the fact it is already drawing business from southern Manitoba and has specifically targeted cross-border travellers as part of its business strategy. The airline flies from about 70 small centres -- many of them small border area airports across the northern United States -- to a handful of southern sun destinations.

"We get very good traffic out of Winnipeg for North Dakota flights, just like we get terrific business out of Vancouver for our Bellingham (Washington) flights and out of Montreal from Plattsburgh (New York)," said Tyri Squyres, a spokeswoman for Allegiant.

A new terminal about to open at Niagara Falls International Airport in New York was at least partly driven by the fact that 50 per cent of Direct Air's Myrtle Beach, S.C., business out of Niagara Falls comes from Canada.

Rempel said he believes the phenomenon of low-cost flights from small U.S. airports is at least partly the result of the flawed Canadian airport-management model.

"Grand Forks is on our radar screen for all the wrong reasons," Rempel said. "Where possible, we should be co-ordinating in the region and doing things jointly. The unfortunate part is that it is extremely difficult when carriers that probably should be directly accessing a marketplace like Winnipeg, choose a market like Grand Forks."

To a great degree, they choose small markets like Grand Forks because of a myriad of costs Canadian airports must absorb that U.S. airports are not responsible for.

Rempel, who is also chairman of the Canadian Airports Council, said his organization has been hammering the federal government for some time for changes to the airport-management structure.

"In our attempts to be competitive with U.S. airports... the rules are different," Rempel said. "It is just not a level playing field in that respect."

Barry Prentice, a transportation expert at the University of Manitoba's Institute of Transportation, said he has always believed it is wrong-headed policy to make independently owned and operated Canadian airports pay rent to the Canadian government.

"The federal government charges rent but does not put anything back," Prentice said. "Normally, a landlord would be responsible for fixing the property when repairs are required. It is wrong-headed in so many ways."

Rempel said every plane that lands in Winnipeg is responsible for generating about 23 person-years of employment and every airline that chooses to turn away from Winnipeg because of cost issues hurts the city.

"Allegiant has made it public that they go in where they can keep the total cost to consumer to a particular level," Rempel said. "Candidly, that level is lower than what we have to pay in federal rent on cost per enplanement (the per capita cost per plane)."

Although airline fares are structurally cheaper across the board in the United States than they are in Canada, Rempel and Grand Forks Regional Airport Authority chairman Rich Becker both said that the major attraction for Canadian travellers as far as Grand Forks is concerned is the Allegiant flights.

Ron Pradinuk, a Winnipeg travel agent, said the added hassle involved in driving several hours to a U.S. airport is not for everyone, but it becomes an attractive savings feature for groups.

"Some people aren't prepared to drive several hours for the amount of savings we're talking about, but if there is a group of say six to eight people, now you have some real savings," Pradinuk said.


Winnipeg's new terminal
Size -- 545,700 square feet
Cost -- C$585 million
Funded -- principally from the issuance of commercial bonds that pay interest at market rates to be repaid eventually by the collection of $20 airport improvement fees from every departing passenger.

Grand Forks' new terminal
Size -- 48,000 square feet
Cost -- US$23 million
Funded -- mostly through direct payments from the U.S. federal government and the issuance of municipal bonds that feature tax benefits and are guaranteed by the City of Grand Forks and Grand Forks County.

Canadian vs. U.S. airports

Canadian airports make substantial rent payments to Transport Canada -- U.S. airports don't.

Canadian airports have to pay municipal property taxes -- U.S. airports don't.

Canadian airports receive no federal money to support facility construction -- U.S. airports do.

Canadian airports charge improvement fees for every departing passenger -- U.S. airports don't.

Canadian airports receive no government assistance in raising debt financing on the public markets -- U.S. airports benefit from local government bond guarantees as well as tax benefits for those who purchase the bonds.

[Biff]

I'm flying out of Grand Forks in early Dec to go to Dallas. From Winnipeg $800, from Grand Forks $250 taxes included. I normally wouldn't like the inconvenience of having to drive 2 hours to take a flight but to save over $500.....

[ILYR]

I'm flying out of Grand Forks in early Dec to go to Dallas. From Winnipeg $800, from Grand Forks $250 taxes included. I normally wouldn't like the inconvenience of having to drive 2 hours to take a flight but to save over $500.....

I checked the Allegiant Air wed site, but only noticed two flights in and out of Grand Forks. They were Las Vegas and Phoenix. For your flight to Dallas where do you have to connect and what airport in Dallas do you arrive? Just curious.

On another note, prices in the US for air fares are cut-throat right now. The airline industry is suffering big time (and globally). With these low-cost airlines their profit margin is very thin and they rarely have large cash reserves. I would not put any money on seeing any major expansion out of Grand Forks or air fares remaining that low indefinitely. In fact I would say it is more likely that many of these low cost airlines will go under within the next year or two.

[Biff]

^^^ I connect through Minneapolis and arrive at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. I believe we are flying United. I booked through Expedia. It came to $258 CDN taxes included return.

[1ajs]

taxs yea theres something els that hurts canada is our crazy taxs on flying

[ILYR]

^^^ I connect through Minneapolis and arrive at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. I believe we are flying United. I booked through Expedia. It came to $258 CDN taxes included return.

United flies out of Winnipeg to Denver and Chicago, although not to Minneapolis. I am surprised you couldn't get a good deal on United from Winnipeg through Chicago to Dallas for a similar price. Probably has something to do with flying into Canada. Then again who really wants to connect through Chicago O'hara, 78% chance you miss your connection or loose your bags.

[YWG - YOW - YUL]

My brother and I went to Pittsburgh to see Games 3 and 4 of last season's Stanley Cup Finals. If we would have flown from Winnipeg, it would have cost about 950 dollars Canadian each for us to fly return. Instead, we opted to fly return from Minneapolis and it cost us about 300 dollars Canadian each (cheaper than our tickets to the games).

[Biff]

United flies out of Winnipeg to Denver and Chicago, although not to Minneapolis. I am surprised you couldn't get a good deal on United from Winnipeg through Chicago to Dallas for a similar price. Probably has something to do with flying into Canada. Then again who really wants to connect through Chicago O'hara, 78% chance you miss your connection or loose your bags.


I hear what you are saying, but for similar price - i think not. Even with some good west jets sales i would be lucky to be able to fly to Calgary on one of those $140 return flights (which i have done, but with taxes it came out to around $300). let alone fly international for anywhere close. The best deal i had to the states was last year to Chicago for around $480 CND taxes in - a far cry from $250.

[1ajs]

the taxs being tacked on are the problem here

[jmt18325]

I would encourage some of you to price a flight with Air Canada to Las Vegas from Winnipeg and then look at who is actually levying the taxes. They're almost all taxes imposed by the United States. There actually isn't much tax added to the price you see on a flight within Canada. Just look at the taxes on a flight from Winnipeg to Toronto as an example.

[rich_200]

I would encourage some of you to price a flight with Air Canada to Las Vegas from Winnipeg and then look at who is actually levying the taxes. They're almost all taxes imposed by the United States. There actually isn't much tax added to the price you see on a flight within Canada. Just look at the taxes on a flight from Winnipeg to Toronto as an example.

At least from Mexico City it's cheaper to get to Winnipeg making two flight connections in the US with United than making only one in Toronto with Air Canada. If it was because US taxes are higher that wouldn't be possible, I think it has more to do with the airline.

[drew]

I would encourage some of you to price a flight with Air Canada to Las Vegas from Winnipeg and then look at who is actually levying the taxes. They're almost all taxes imposed by the United States. There actually isn't much tax added to the price you see on a flight within Canada. Just look at the taxes on a flight from Winnipeg to Toronto as an example.

I think the higher taxes that really make the difference are the civic and federal taxes that the airports must pass down to their customers, the airlines.

I would imagine that on average Canadian Airports charge the airlines more to conduct their business as compared to US airports, and that is where the majority of the fee difference would be made up.

[jmt18325]

Oh, I agree. I think they should have to pay them too. I'm just saying that on a flight to the US, these taxes:

U.S.A Transportation Tax
U.S Agriculture Fee
U.S Passenger Facility Charge
September 11 Security Fee
U.S.A Immigration User Fee

Make a difference.

[newflyer]

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source: james2010.ca


It is really coming along. :yes:

[YWG - YOW - YUL]

Yeah, it really is coming along! The last I heard (about a month ago) it is still set to open in early 2010. Have there been any delays since?

September 11 Security Fee

I am still waiting for them to drop the "September 11th" from the name of this fee. "Security Fee" seems good enough to me.

[ILYR]

Just a few shots of the construction at the airport (terminal, hotel, and Canada Post building).

http://www.ualberta.ca/~drogge/images/DSC06171sm.jpg
http://www.ualberta.ca/~drogge/images/DSC06175sm.jpg
http://www.ualberta.ca/~drogge/images/DSC06177sm.jpg
http://www.ualberta.ca/~drogge/images/DSC06181sm.jpg
http://www.ualberta.ca/~drogge/images/DSC06183sm.jpg
http://www.ualberta.ca/~drogge/images/DSC06186sm.jpg

[newflyer]

Thanks for the great photo set.

I am looking forward to seeing it completed .. and it may even be featured in Airport magazine, which did a story on JAR last year.

At the end of the day this will be a very attractive airport with a great terminal and many other buildings within the airport campus, including two hotels.

[sledhead35]

beginning to look very urban/big city airport! i love it!

[The Jabroni]

beginning to look very urban/big city airport! i love it!

We're joining the big boys! :cheers:

[Andy6]

It was so nice to come home to an airport that wasn't so "urban, big city". Where you could just walk out the door to your car and drive away in a couple of minutes. But I guess this is progress. Bigger is always better!

[newflyer]

It was so nice to come home to an airport that wasn't so "urban, big city". Where you could just walk out the door to your car and drive away in a couple of minutes. But I guess this is progress. Bigger is always better!

You could always downsize ... Regina has a nice small airport terminal with no hotels to worry about. :frog:

....... if thats still to big you could consider flying out of Brandon. Ah yes the good 'ol days, where simple is so much better.

[newflyer]

We're joining the big boys! :cheers:

It sure seems that way...

Let the good times roll :banana: :banana:

[hexrae]

It was so nice to come home to an airport that wasn't so "urban, big city". Where you could just walk out the door to your car and drive away in a couple of minutes. But I guess this is progress. Bigger is always better!

Perhaps you can fly Perimeter next time?

[Pegger5]

It was so nice to come home to an airport that wasn't so "urban, big city". Where you could just walk out the door to your car and drive away in a couple of minutes. But I guess this is progress. Bigger is always better!

It is about about convenience and amenities.and additonal room (gates) for more flights to new areas. I guess you like to live in trees then?. FYI, the walk will be the same and your rental car won't be covered in snow...:)