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Dougall5505
Dec 5, 2006, 3:26 AM
I'm not sure how many of you are aware of the portland tram so let me tell you about it. It is tram that connects the OHSU (oregon health and science university upper campus to the growing lower campus at the south waterfront. It is a catlyst to the growing south waterfront neighborhood that has grown from unused industrial land to a highrise residential area with towers as high as 325 feet. Despite a rising price tag that has gone up from around 30 million to 57 mil it looks like portland is getting a well-deserved icon in the mold of the space needle of seattle, or the golden-gate bridge in san franscico.
rout:
http://www.portlandonline.com/shared/cfm/image.cfm?id=135610
upper station
http://www.portlandtram.com/UpTwr4_lo.jpg
central tower
http://www.portlandtram.com/MidTwr1_lo.jpg
lower station:
http://www.portlandtram.com/LoTrmns2_lo.jpg
future expansion includes a pedestrian bridge over I-5
http://www.portlandtram.com/PedBridge2_lo.jpg
progress photos (i tried to give everyone credit for their photos if you want credit pm me all the pictures were taken by me unless otherwise noted)
first part of intermediate tower installed
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/couvttocs/tramtowerstart.jpg
second part
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/couvttocs/tramtowerpiece2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e309/awg5/Tram-PillHill-lowres.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e309/awg5/Tram-lowres.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/couvttocs/3rdtrampiece.jpg
how it looks now
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0022.jpg?t=1165195135
lower station
crow's
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e309/awg5/Atriumandtram.jpg
pdxstreetcar's
http://static.flickr.com/47/168446028_696ed3c52c.jpg
the streetcar is going right between the OHSU building and the lower station crow's
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/kwand/SOWA%20picts/IMG_9895.jpg
upper station
pdxstreetcar's
http://static.flickr.com/1/123546820_36a0e87c10_o.jpg
pdxstreetcar's
http://static.flickr.com/48/168440527_320f33fab3.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC02325.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC06738.jpg
two river's
http://static.flickr.com/98/238683166_5966480293.jpg?v=0
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC07128.jpg
tram cars
http://static.flickr.com/106/312135110_1f25a36ec2.jpg?v=0
http://static.flickr.com/105/312135431_ea2db40eda.jpg?v=0
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0016.jpg?t=1165195163
video(pdxman's): http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=MOV00654.flv

you know its cool if it has a myspace: www.myspace.com/pdxtram
sowa proximity to downtown:
http://static.flickr.com/106/313436791_604980a075.jpg?v=0
for more on the tram go to the thread in the northwest forum: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=82240
for more on the south waterfront go to: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=90344
or: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=81718

MSP
Dec 5, 2006, 3:41 AM
Looks cool, how many people will use it?

Dougall5505
Dec 5, 2006, 4:04 AM
it'll be mostly OHSU employees riding the tram but people can commute from the hill to the south waterfront and then take the streetcar downtown.
here's a excerpt from the oregonian it doesn't answer your question but is still interesting:
With the bus and car trips it ends up the hill, the tram will save 93,000 gallons of petrol and prevent 1,000 pounds of greenhouse gas emissions each year, he said.

zaphod
Dec 5, 2006, 4:14 AM
Man I though the cars were going to be like the ones in the rendering. like bubbles or something...

Justin10000
Dec 5, 2006, 4:28 AM
I say it before, and I'll say it again:

Portland rocks.

Grego43
Dec 5, 2006, 3:58 PM
I say it before, and I'll say it again:

Portland rocks.


...and I'll join you...Portland rocks! (one of my favorite US cities)

MarkDaMan
Dec 6, 2006, 6:19 PM
Man I though the cars were going to be like the ones in the rendering. like bubbles or something...

actually, I too was disappointed when the looked like giant AirStream Trailers. However, they catch the color of the sky. On the few clear days we've had recently, the tram cars reflected the sky and looked like blue bubbles floating. On gray days, they kinda blend into the clouds.

Nice overview Dougall

Sekkle
Dec 6, 2006, 6:29 PM
Looks cool, guys. I hope to be moving up there in less than a year (my fiancee may be going to optometry school in the area), and I've kind of been reading up on the developments on this tram, the LRT and streetcar and the SoWa area in your forum. I'm very impressed with Portland's forward-thinking attitude in terms of transit. Not much of that here in PHX! Thanks for the pics.

i-215
Dec 7, 2006, 5:39 AM
I spell TRAM "D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R." Tri-Met pretty much lied to the City of Portland about the cost until Portland was committed, and then came back and admitted they lied and it would cost almost twice as much.

The top tram anchor was going to be much cheaper, but then somebody forgot the small oversight - that OHSU was building a new building right where the top anchor was going to go, so they had to scrap the original plan (after funding was allotted) and start over.

It serves almost nobody. It's pretty much OHSU's private multi-100 million dollar tram system to an expanded parking lot. Personally, as cool looking as it is, the money would've been much better spent on commuter rail or maybe widening OR-217 so more people can bypass downtown Portland with their cars.

The part that scares me is the PDX employee I talked to said they estimate that if the tram broke down it would take about 8-12 hours to get rescue crews up there.

But, despite my bah-humbug attitude, I admit it's one of the coolest looking projects I've seen (cost aside).

zilfondel
Dec 7, 2006, 8:57 AM
I spell TRAM "D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...


Well, only so many of us can be accountants, and we generally feel sorry for them, so... :shrug:

MarkDaMan
Dec 7, 2006, 5:45 PM
um, TriMet hasn't had anything to do with this project. The final cost didn't top $60 million and the city of Portland is only responsible for less than $10 million of the TOTAL cost. The biggest user of the project, OHSU is also funding almost $35 million of the cost. So, for $10 million the city of Portland was able to provide an 100 acre sanctuary on an abandoned industrial brownfield to allow Portland's largest employer to grow in our city, instead of building new research space in the suburb where it owned over 150 acres (those 150 acres are now being studied for a central park and 20 to 30 story condo towers since OHSU is now committed to the city of Portland, a win-win I'd say since that means our burbs understand the need to go up even with such a massive land gift). We also get an incredible new condo and office district with a slew of 21st century towers, new parks, a streetcar extension, and as you stated, a pretty damned cool piece of infrastructure in the tram.

The part that 'scares' you, that people could get stuck is a possibility that the city has planned for. The tram has one main power source with two, not one, TWO backup systems in case of power failure in the main system and than failure in the first back up system. There is a much larger chance you are going to get stuck on a ski lift, exposed to the elements, than a comfortable, brand new, latest technology, tram.

The tram debuted during a November wind and rainstorm where frequent winds topped 50MPH and the tram performed better than expected. It also was completed two weeks early.

pdxtex
Dec 8, 2006, 12:07 AM
that span is so long. does anyone know if a third suspension tower was ever proposed or was it just not needed?

zilfondel
Dec 8, 2006, 12:37 AM
^^^ None of the proposals included a 2nd tower. I believe the span is around 3300 feet? The tram traverses I-5, Highway 99 (a 4 lane highway), and 4 blocks of neighborhood residential before climbing up the steep hill to the University.

MarkDaMan
Dec 8, 2006, 12:52 AM
in the very early...early days of the tram, there was discussion of building a Barbur Blvd. extension and a second tower would have been needed, but that got axed. Do to the relative ease of building this thing after they got a realistic cost, and began construction, I would be suprised if we didn't see more tram lines in the future.

Dougall5505
Dec 8, 2006, 1:37 AM
cool pictures i found on flickr
pic of tower lit up at night (not mine)
http://static.flickr.com/110/313084040_b1b6b38f70.jpg?v=0
jarsehgal's
http://static.flickr.com/102/308981603_58e24cf472.jpg?v=0

http://static.flickr.com/112/308981601_7f1e0515e9.jpg?v=0
ae's
http://static.flickr.com/90/216398627_b509c2574a.jpg?v=0

http://static.flickr.com/24/89784944_52c35d8a5f.jpg?v=0
JandK's
http://static.flickr.com/112/311477418_06d9d03de7.jpg?v=0

Buckeye Native 001
Dec 8, 2006, 7:57 AM
I wouldn't want to be on that during an earthquake, but the concept is pretty neat.

roner
Dec 9, 2006, 7:51 AM
The part that scares me is the PDX employee I talked to said they estimate that if the tram broke down it would take about 8-12 hours to get rescue crews up there.

That's funny because they just did a rescue drill and 5 people got out in under an hour including set up time. They estimate it will take 5 minutes per person. So with a max of 79 passengers you're still under 5 hours, not 12. For 8 million the city got a very impressive tram-a deal if you ask me.

Thanks for all the great pics. I love the one of the tram coming out of the clouds!:notacrook:

PDX RULES!

SpongeG
Dec 10, 2006, 10:19 PM
cool

will have to go for a ride next time i am in portland

Dougall5505
Dec 12, 2006, 4:27 AM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2849/tramoc4.jpg

OhioGuy
Dec 12, 2006, 4:30 AM
Oooh, that's spectacular!

roner
Dec 12, 2006, 5:19 AM
was that Friday or Sat? Great shot, is that yours? I fully support a bond scene with the tram.

Dougall5505
Dec 12, 2006, 5:21 AM
i wish that was mine someone posted it in the northwest forum but he didn't take it either he said he found it or something

South-by-West
Dec 12, 2006, 7:37 AM
Yes, the tram together with Mt. Hood make for a beautiful shot!

More pics please!

i-215
Dec 13, 2006, 4:37 AM
um, TriMet hasn't had anything to do with this project. The final cost didn't top $60 million and the city of Portland is only responsible for less than $10 million of the TOTAL cost. The biggest user of the project, OHSU is also funding almost $35 million of the cost. So, for $10 million the city of Portland was able to provide an 100 acre sanctuary on an abandoned industrial brownfield to allow Portland's largest employer to grow in our city, instead of building new research space in the suburb where it owned over 150 acres (those 150 acres are now being studied for a central park and 20 to 30 story condo towers since OHSU is now committed to the city of Portland, a win-win I'd say since that means our burbs understand the need to go up even with such a massive land gift). We also get an incredible new condo and office district with a slew of 21st century towers, new parks, a streetcar extension, and as you stated, a pretty damned cool piece of infrastructure in the tram.

The part that 'scares' you, that people could get stuck is a possibility that the city has planned for. The tram has one main power source with two, not one, TWO backup systems in case of power failure in the main system and than failure in the first back up system. There is a much larger chance you are going to get stuck on a ski lift, exposed to the elements, than a comfortable, brand new, latest technology, tram.

The tram debuted during a November wind and rainstorm where frequent winds topped 50MPH and the tram performed better than expected. It also was completed two weeks early.

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so negative, even if I did.

I suppose my negativity roots in the fact that even the Willamette Week and Portland Mercury were beginning to become critical of the tram's cost and follies, let alone the Oregonian. And I'd say if Willamette Week is critical of the tram, then there is certainly wrong.

Glad to hear it's up and running though. It just seems sort of pointless to me. Like getting an HD TV. :haha:

PacificNW
Dec 13, 2006, 6:06 AM
I think the tram is great and my HDTV is fantastic...! How is that for values? :)

Dougall5505
Dec 14, 2006, 12:21 AM
amen! i love HDTV

Chicago3rd
Dec 14, 2006, 5:07 PM
in the very early...early days of the tram, there was discussion of building a Barbur Blvd. extension and a second tower would have been needed, but that got axed. Do to the relative ease of building this thing after they got a realistic cost, and began construction, I would be suprised if we didn't see more tram lines in the future.

When I envisioned this years ago, when I worked at the Plaid Pantry on Pill Hill I thought it would be great having one go from there to PSU and the southern terminus of the Bus Mall, which now would also be the southern end of the MAX line.

MarkDaMan
Dec 15, 2006, 11:12 PM
Tram does its job of collapsing distances

Friday, December 15, 2006

O n a dark December day with a storm coming in that threatens to blow umbrellas inside out, your chariot arrives at 7:51 a.m. No, it's not the tram.

It's the tram's slowpoke cousin, the Portland Streetcar, which recently started running from Riverplace to the South Waterfront. Today you're testing not only the tram, but also the theory that the tram and streetcar are true transportation links.

Both are pretty, and they've done an amazing job of stimulating a $2 billion development. But the tram and streetcar, combined, also are supposed to shoulder a big job: transporting residents of the new South Waterfront area, faculty, students and patients at Oregon Health & Science University up Marquam Hill, and back to downtown Portland.

Since the streetcar runs at the pace of traffic, you figure it will take forever to go from downtown to the Southwest Gibbs Street tram station. Not so. You grab the streetcar at 7:51, and it deposits you at the tram station at 7:59. The tram cars are waiting, sleek and silvery, to whisk you up Marquam Hill. Through a blur of raindrops, the cars are so unobtrusive they can be hard to see. They do exactly what the tram's architect has designed them to do, "dematerialize" against the sky.

Mayor Tom Potter, OHSU personnel, reporters and even a couple of patients have assembled for this experiment. Everyone knows that windstorm is blowing in later, and there are a few nervous jokes about the ride. But it's easy to suspend disbelief, especially for four minutes.

That's how long it takes the tram to ascend from the Gibbs Street station to its Marquam Hill landing. You can't see much out the windows, but the ride is smooth. As in an old sci-fi show, you dematerialize at one spot, and a few minutes later materialize at another. Since it's only a test, the tram cars actually are moving at a relatively sluggish pace today. Soon, the ride will be down to 3 minutes.

Using the tram and streetcar, it will be theoretically possible to go from Portland State University to the South Waterfront, up Marquam Hill to OHSU and return to downtown in 30 minutes. Few will make the round trip that fast. Still, it's going to change how people move, and even imagine moving. A little walking is going to seem easier than driving and parking. Soon not just South Waterfront but Marquam Hill itself may feel like an extension of downtown.

The tram is a looker, and it will be a landmark. But what's most impressive today is that the tram works. It collapses distances.

It's been known for its price tag, the politics and problems getting it built. But using the tram will melt misgivings and turn many Portlanders' opinions inside out, like their umbrellas. For all its complications, the tram will soon be known for its functional simplicity and true trademark -- speed.

first video clip of ride inside tram
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/video/index.ssf?LC_71TRAM116

mSeattle
Dec 16, 2006, 1:28 AM
Sweet.

MtnClimber
Dec 16, 2006, 2:50 AM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2849/tramoc4.jpg

thats bad ass. Portland rocks

oliveurban
Dec 16, 2006, 5:48 AM
Looks great, I cannot wait to ride it next time I'm in Portland. It will definitely become a small new, unique source of pride for the city.

And, I like the "bubble" cars.

Dougall5505
Dec 19, 2006, 7:52 PM
a guy over at ssc PMed me. he is with portland fire and rescue and was there when rescue training for the tram was performed on december 5th, 6th, and 7th. he took some pictures and was nice enough to share them with me
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/aerial_tram_rescue
i think this is the photo service that has the pictures disapear but i'll post them anyway
http://k47.pbase.com/o6/20/12320/1/71365369.9nfg8jvg.IMG_3483A.JPG
http://k47.pbase.com/o6/20/12320/1/71365403.Nk4IVkde.IMG_3537A.JPG
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/20/12320/1/71729077.RywxO4Vj.IMG_3493A.JPG
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/20/12320/1/71365458.vqImY5i3.IMG_3561A.JPG

fangorangutang
Dec 20, 2006, 2:28 AM
Grrr, I tried to go ride it yesterday but they required a "designated OHSU escort". Can't wait til it opens to the public. I am very impressed with the tram as it's extremely quiet, seemed to move at a very brisk pace, and it will be even more amazing once the surrounding neighborhood gets developed. Definitely worth it!

I did get some pics though.

http://www.pbase.com/fangorangutang/image/71898709.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/fangorangutang/image/71898710.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/fangorangutang/image/71898711.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/fangorangutang/image/71898713.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/fangorangutang/image/71898714.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/fangorangutang/image/71898715.jpg

Dougall5505
Dec 20, 2006, 3:17 AM
awesome pictures!

roner
Dec 20, 2006, 3:50 AM
My girlfriend works for OHSU and rode it today. She loved it and said the views were outstanding and the ride was pleasant, can't wait until they let the public on it.

WonderlandPark
Dec 20, 2006, 3:51 AM
I finally caught a view of it running today from the 5. It is so sweet looking, an icon, for sure. Hope the pedestrian bridge goes in soon, that would really top off this "gateway" view of Portland from the south.

excel
Dec 25, 2006, 6:24 AM
Great looking tram.

Dougall5505
Dec 29, 2006, 1:17 AM
PUBLIC CAN RIDE TRAM STARTING JANUARY 19TH
my new dream job well not really but it would be cool.
Tram man goes back and forth and back
Thursday, December 28, 2006
By Spencer Heinz
By the lights of night and day, he sails above the city. He wears no cape, and he works out of a cabin that climbs by cable from here to there. About 50 times per shift under rain and sun and stars, he rides from bottom to top and back again.

Kevin Holtzman Jr. is the Portland Aerial Tram's first tramway cabin attendant, and as the city's last few elevator operators prepare to ride into history, he stands for what comes next.

"Bottom floor," he announces for fun because this is not a department store. The bottom is Portland's waterfront. The top is 3,300 feet up and away, to beyond the other tower near the top of Pill Hill -- the overlook that holds the expanding Oregon Health & Science University that spawned the construction of this ride. The point is to zoom its nurses and doctors and others -- and by late next month, the public -- between the old hillside campus and its new Center for Health & Healing below.

Holtzman takes them back and forth. Passengers board, and his fingers pinch his ID card into a tilt for easy reading: "Cabin Attendant." At 5-foot-9 with short brown hair, glasses, black trousers, steel-toed boots and a lightweight jacket with an L.L. Bean logo, the 29-year-old Holtzman was the first of six attendants hired.

"An all-around good personality," says the boss who hired him, tram General Manager Mike Commissaris, who looks for technical and people skills.

It was not Holtzman's burning boyhood dream to grow up and become a tramway cabin attendant. Then his horizons changed. Born in Florida into a family that moved to Oregon, he had worked as a paperboy, warehouse cherry sorter, shelf clerk in a discount store, English major in college and a credit union service rep before spotting an online ad for people to run the tram.

"I came in," he says, "pretty much as a blank slate."

This fall, he was dividing his time between an apartment in Eugene and his family's home in The Dalles. The tram people called back and hired him. He says his father, Kevin Holtzman Sr. -- a carpenter who has worked on the city's tram-linked $2 billion South Waterfront project -- was thrilled.

Young Holtzman went through training that ranged from operating the cabin control panel -- you touch the buttons to slow the cab or speed it up -- to how to disembark in an emergency by descending more than 100 feet in a harness.

He enters the good-looking new pod and replaces the morning-shift attendant. A ground-based tram operator oversees the largely computerized runs with, if necessary, override controls. The cab is the size of a den, vaguely egg-shaped and equipped to carry more than 70 patrons per run.
With them, Holtzman views, from the top of the run, the Cascades that rut the horizon like flash-frozen waves. The topography of rooftops, pitched to flat, reveals anything from sweet architecture to shingles begging for repair. From his ceiling, the control panel hangs like a finely sculpted periscope. And below it the floor shows touches of home -- a little broom and dustpan, plus a tiny straw mat of the kind you might want to put on your porch.

He says heights are not his fear. Aside from a momentary lilt while passing the tops of towers, the ride is usually smooth and nearly without sound. A "swing dampener" mechanism helps the ride feel like light rail.

"If something is safer than it needs to be," Holtzman says, "I'd have to say the tram is that."

Doctors and nurses and others get on. So far, things Holtzman says include "Any first-time riders?" and "Here we go," and "Tradition is to wave at the other car as it goes by."

The rituals are at least several days old in Portland's tramming history. He guards them with a level of pride. The kinds of questions riders ask him range, he says, from whether a cabin attendant has authority to marry couples to whether his cabin carries a restroom.

Those answers are no, but he does have a fire extinguisher, a first-aid kit, a heart defibrillator, usually a few doctors and what probably can be described as direct connections to a hospital.

"I tell them," he says, "it's only a three- to four-minute ride."

Spencer Heinz: 503-221-8072; spencerheinz@news.oregonian.com

The lowdown on the tramway
Thursday, December 28, 2006
The tramway is about 3,300 feet long.

Peak cabin speed is 22 mph.

The cabin attendant pay scale is $9 to $15 an hour.

The tram is open, so far, only to OHSU employees. Hours are 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. weekdays, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Saturdays, closed Sundays.

The public will be able to ride after a grand-opening weekend Jan. 19-21.

The city of Portland is the tram's owner and regulatory authority. Doppelmayr CTEC, a subsidiary of a Swiss firm, supplied the tramway equipment, and maintains and operates the tram under contract with OHSU. Mike Commissaris is the Portland Aerial Tram general manager. He is one of 12 employees who maintain and operate the tram.

SPENCER HEINZ

Dougall5505
Dec 29, 2006, 2:26 AM
pictures from flickr:
atul666 taken december 18th
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/138/326381236_fffbfe004b.jpg?v=0
greg_e taken december 28th (looks like they're closing in the upper station for you mark)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/336508575_f6d10503a4.jpg?v=0
more greg_e same day
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/336418960_44e091d2b7.jpg?v=0
big set by crumj on december 19th
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/327846993_3d49fec33c.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/327847036_7c4a6e847b.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/327847111_6dd6a0d837.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/327847227_fb5f864a73.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/327847272_13299d9aff.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/327847350_70e46e7f21.jpg?v=0

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/327847910_20a2252116.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/327848001_47d29c4530.jpg?v=0

Dougall5505
Jan 7, 2007, 6:08 AM
tonight
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0001.jpg?t=1168149372

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0002-1.jpg?t=1168152979
im loving the colors
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0003-1.jpg?t=1168149412

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0004-1.jpg?t=1168153028
im also lovin the kohler pavilion nice view!
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0007-2.jpg?t=1168149448

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0008-1.jpg?t=1168153076

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0011-4.jpg?t=1168149498

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0014-2.jpg?t=1168149511

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0018-1.jpg?t=1168153123

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0021-2.jpg?t=1168153130

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0025-2.jpg?t=1168153141
check out my other thread from tonight http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2550613#post2550613

jamesinclair
Jan 7, 2007, 10:09 AM
When open to the public, will it be a free ride?

Are two trams operating? If so, the article says the ride is 3 minutes. Does that mean a tram departs every 5 minutes?

Dougall5505
Jan 7, 2007, 6:15 PM
Round trip on tram? Looks like fare will be $4
Thursday, January 04, 2007
The Oregonian

Controversy over the tram? Imagine our surprise. Now it's over the fares the public will pay. Early planning talks mentioned including the tram in the regional transit system, so a TriMet fare or pass would suffice.

But now talk puts the fare at $4 for a round trip. Residents at either end -- in the South Portland and Homestead neighborhoods -- want TriMet fares. "We should not be treated as tourists in our own neighborhood," says Susan Egnor of Homestead.

The board of the Southwest Neighborhoods coalition voted unanimously in favor of TriMet fares.

Will the City Council pay attention? Jim Gardner, a South Portland resident who was a member of a committee that planned the tram, says, "A lot of things changed -- including the price." He was referring to the $15.5 million that turned into $57 million, but, hey, that's a secret.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/o...370.xml&coll=7

i forget the dates of the opening but opening weekend it will be free

pdxstreetcar
Jan 8, 2007, 12:50 AM
There was a small 1 page article with photo about the aerial tram in the latest United Hemispheres magazine.

AZheat
Jan 8, 2007, 1:04 AM
I can't believe I've never even heard of this before. That's one of the coolest concepts I've seen in a long time and they're actually doing it.

mcbaby
Jan 8, 2007, 11:50 AM
i can't wait to ride it.

MarkDaMan
Jan 10, 2007, 4:47 PM
if you happen to be in town for the weekend...

:banana: Tram reservations:banana:

Need a ride for two to Pill Hill? Call the doctor today at OHSU to reserve a standing-room spot on the tram's opening weekend Jan. 27-28. Rides are free from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. each day. To reserve a spot, call 503-418-TRAM after 10 a.m. today.

mcbaby
Jan 17, 2007, 1:01 PM
is it operating in the snow?

Dougall5505
Jan 17, 2007, 5:38 PM
yah i saw it in the webcam yesterday. it was giving free rides to the hospital for people who were hurt but couldn't make it up the hills in their car. i was thinking about faking a injury...

PacificNW
Jan 17, 2007, 9:48 PM
Didn't I read that a proposed monthly pass on the tram would be pretty inexpensive vs. a monthly pass on Tri-met? I would be careful what you wish for if this is true....but I guess the trade off would be good.. I like the idea of all mass transportation options be combined. If the tram becomes a tourist magnet this needs to be examined....what is the cost of riding the elevator of the Space Needle and CN Tower? We already miss out on a lot of potential tourists dollars by not having a sales tax. Just a thought..

der Reisender
Jan 18, 2007, 2:04 AM
they were going to price roundtrip at $4, and a month pass at $10, but that was before the big outcry about how expensive it would be, so we'll have to wait and see what happens

WonderlandPark
Jan 18, 2007, 2:17 AM
I am just going to pay the money, choose a really pretty clear day to do it on and avoid the zoo that will be the free weekend.

Dougall5505
Jan 18, 2007, 10:08 PM
pictures from my (snowy) day off
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0057-3.jpg?t=1169157884

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0058-3.jpg?t=1169157946

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0059-2.jpg?t=1169157957

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0061-2.jpg?t=1169157964

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0062-2.jpg?t=1169157973

Dougall5505
Jan 19, 2007, 10:04 PM
all of these are ones i found on flickr
Jami Dwyer's
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/356119833_8d8ae169d8.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/356120107_204b716d73.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/356242415_3b21e76b5f.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/356243011_fea504a457.jpg?v=0
looks like welding is still going on
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/356244720_86e06455bc.jpg?v=0
atul666's
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/361429729_ff64ba71d1.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/361429720_ebd29dbef5.jpg?v=0

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/361429733_c7d20eadc4.jpg?v=0
nolan's
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/361068602_d0c288693c.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/361068595_82fee70a2b.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/361068591_27145e58c3.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/361068582_d6d6acaeb3.jpg?v=0
devwild's
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/359723090_638c35bd5c.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/359711585_1b9494aaa3.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/359705037_32f57196bf.jpg?v=0

lamborghini
Jan 23, 2007, 1:55 AM
That was stupid building that when a big earthquake is supposed to happen around spring break from portland to here in eugene

Chicago3rd
Jan 23, 2007, 2:03 AM
That was stupid building that when a big earthquake is supposed to happen around spring break from portland to here in eugene

Please share this science...:sly:

jamesinclair
Jan 23, 2007, 2:15 AM
That was stupid building that when a big earthquake is supposed to happen around spring break from portland to here in eugene


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

They should cancel the freedom tower since the aliens will be here in October

lamborghini
Jan 23, 2007, 2:23 AM
well my science teacher told me that the seismic plates or whatever will realease around here very soon, very soon.....:wah:

PacificNW
Jan 23, 2007, 2:46 AM
The plates will release at some time but I doubt if your teacher is no more an expert than others when it comes to a date...When that happens the tram will be the least of our concerns.

lamborghini
Jan 23, 2007, 3:10 AM
ya tru
it's not like i will ever use the tram anyways...

Dougall5505
Jan 23, 2007, 3:32 AM
well my science teacher told me that the seismic plates or whatever will realease around here very soon, very soon.....

what are you in fifth grade?

zilfondel
Jan 23, 2007, 4:34 AM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

They should cancel the freedom tower since the aliens will be here in October

oh shit! :(

lamborghini
Jan 24, 2007, 12:54 AM
what are you in fifth grade?

actualy, i'm in high school thank you very much and he has a science award in his room so :P

Justin10000
Jan 24, 2007, 1:34 AM
well my science teacher told me that the seismic plates or whatever will realease around here very soon, very soon.....:wah:

You're a gullible idiot.
.

J Church
Jan 24, 2007, 1:58 AM
Fear the future, folks.

pdxman
Jan 24, 2007, 6:55 AM
Fear the future, folks.
Atleast in america

westsider
Jan 24, 2007, 7:59 AM
Well thank you lamborghini's science teacher. Starting in the morning I will be constructing my jello earthquake shelter.

pdxtex
Jan 24, 2007, 11:14 AM
what still floors me is the length of the span without a third support tower. im sure the engineering is sound but it still looks freaky. maybe because im afraid of heights. :(

pdxstreetcar
Jan 26, 2007, 2:39 AM
The official Portland Aerial Tram website:
www.portlandtram.org

Fares & Schedule, Maps & Directions, Rider Info, Resources, News, FAQs

mcbaby
Jan 27, 2007, 12:15 PM
it should hold up fine in an earthquake. we have earthquake construction standards in oregon.

pdxstreetcar
Jan 28, 2007, 5:49 PM
http://adserver1.harvestadsdepot.com/portorgonian/130032101/130032101.jpg

Dougall5505
Jan 29, 2007, 12:48 AM
hopefully we'll get some pictures from some another people beside me but here goes.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0021-4.jpg?t=1170030178

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0029-2.jpg?t=1170030234

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0040-2.jpg?t=1170030245

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0043-3.jpg?t=1170030256

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0050-3.jpg?t=1170030281

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0052-3.jpg?t=1170030292

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0058-4.jpg?t=1170030319

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0060-2.jpg?t=1170030332

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0062-3.jpg?t=1170030355
i like this reflection it looks like god is looking over the city
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0063-2.jpg?t=1170030366

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0067-2.jpg?t=1170030400
the cars are so reflective
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0068-2.jpg?t=1170030412

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0071-2.jpg?t=1170030440

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0075-2.jpg?t=1170030446

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0076-2.jpg?t=1170030457

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0077-3.jpg?t=1170030478

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0079-3.jpg?t=1170030483

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0092-2.jpg?t=1170030505

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0096.jpg?t=1170030520

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0101-1.jpg?t=1170030545

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0103.jpg?t=1170030573

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0104-2.jpg?t=1170030590
so reflective
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0107-1.jpg?t=1170030611

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0109-2.jpg?t=1170030629

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0110-1.jpg?t=1170030641

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0111-1.jpg?t=1170030652

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0116-2.jpg?t=1170030670

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0114.jpg?t=1170030684

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0117-2.jpg?t=1170030697

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0121.jpg?t=1170030723
and i'll close with some more reflection
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/dougall5505/DSC_0122-1.jpg?t=1170030740

mcbaby
Jan 29, 2007, 2:21 AM
nice pics!

Sekkle
Jan 29, 2007, 6:11 PM
Very impressive! Thanks for the pics. :tup:

Dougall5505
Feb 4, 2007, 10:51 PM
sorry had to post these, they look awesome
from flickr: http://flickr.com/photos/bnzaij/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/379487256_639f702914.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/379487254_971be254e3.jpg?v=0

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/357999301_76b51e513b.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/367711940_d738ea6d0d.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/102/367711935_917c74a928.jpg?v=0

mcbaby
Feb 5, 2007, 9:26 AM
the sunset pics are my faves

EastPDX
Feb 6, 2007, 4:41 AM
Please note the first entry of this thread. Note the open space (a corridor) going right to the river. I don't know for sure but I am hopeful that something I (maybe others inside the city government and outside had the same idea) mentioned a few years ago on the oregonlive website (the Mayor was asking for input from the public) that after the Tram for OHSU is done, that they design into the Tram the ability to add a second Tram to the East Side of the Willamette River.

Twenty years down the road could see a higher density in the Brooklyn Neighborhood and plans for a Tram to show off the River and connect the two banks by another means.

EP

mcbaby
Feb 8, 2007, 9:50 PM
that would be awesome!

westsider
Feb 13, 2007, 6:58 AM
That would be cool. It will have to be a ways off though, what with all the hoopela over the cost.