[James Bond Agent 007]

I wuz bored so I decided to do another one of these.

You know the routine by now . . .

Link to the first thread in this series.
USA Sprawl Festival (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=112959)

Or, click on the following links to see just individual cities in that thread:

Kansas City (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2240987&postcount=1)
Some northern Denver suburbs (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241038&postcount=3)
Albuquerque (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241043&postcount=4)
Seattle (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241046&postcount=6)
Las Vegas (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241049&postcount=7)
Dallas-Fort Worth (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241120&postcount=15)
Some western & southern Minneapolis suburbs (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241150&postcount=16)
Orange County, California (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2242458&postcount=33)
Philadelphia (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2243795&postcount=39)
Tucson (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2244020&postcount=40)
Orlando (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2246260&postcount=54)
Northern Virginia/DC (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2248127&postcount=77)
Cleveland (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2248415&postcount=79)
Houston (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2250662&postcount=126)
Atlanta (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2252845&postcount=148)
Indianapolis (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2255900&postcount=169)
Long Island, New York (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2258869&postcount=186)
Jacksonville (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2262283&postcount=188)
Boston (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2288881&postcount=198)

And the 2nd round ones:

Phoenix-East (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115970)
Phoenix-South (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115974)
Phoenix-North (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115972)
Phoenix-West (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115971)
Portland (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116211)
Silicon Valley (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2342500)
Los Angeles (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116366)
San Bernardino County (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116460)
San Diego - south (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116473)
San Diego - north (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116668)
Buffalo (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2364201)
Broward County, Florida (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=117116)
Dallas-Fort Worth II (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=117213)
Riverside County, California (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=117511)
Denver - south suburbs (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118325)
Orange County II (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118331)
Bergen and Passaic Counties, New Jersey (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118454)
Milwaukee (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=119705)

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COLUMBUS, OHIO

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5886/columbus1hk7.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/860/columbus2rf7.jpg

Mall, with outparcels. Is that an Applebees I see? :D
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1624/columbus3jb6.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2876/columbus4dg9.jpg

Business park.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3334/columbus5vq9.jpg

Find the Barnes & Noble.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6300/columbus6dj0.jpg

Nearby, an office park. Lots of parking.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7935/columbus7mx8.jpg

Some un-sprawl, for comparison.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5262/columbus8bf9.jpg

Back to the sprawl.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1128/columbus9hy3.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8206/columbus10ym6.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4915/columbus11me6.jpg

Semi-sprawl.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4084/columbus12cr7.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1232/columbus13sx8.jpg

A grid, but sprawl.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4274/columbus14kw8.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/788/columbus15lq6.jpg

Looks like a dead shopping center.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6721/columbus16kw7.jpg

Nearby, expanding the mall.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/230/columbus17ko3.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5413/columbus18bu2.jpg

Ultra-sprawl.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7662/columbus19ei3.jpg

Looks like a neotraditional development under construction.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4813/columbus20fg0.jpg

Lakeside retreats.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8111/columbus21vc5.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5425/columbus22sc3.jpg

Fore!
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/663/columbus23rh0.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5862/columbus24tt7.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8863/columbus25bp7.jpg

Not sprawl. Another one for comparison purposes.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7224/columbus26fs9.jpg

I just felt like putting this here for the heck of it.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5579/columbus27xy2.jpg

At least it's got lots of trees.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7168/columbus28rk0.jpg

Freeway industry.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9725/columbus29fd1.jpg

Megachurch. I think.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6820/columbus30uq2.jpg

Wal-Mart.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9324/columbus31zo4.jpg

Cul-de-sacs.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9228/columbus32nz3.jpg

[crisp444]

I don't mind the denser ones and the ones with lots of trees, but the treeless sprawl of just houses and grass is absolutely appalling (pictures 1 and 13). Still, at least these houses are of modest size and have some land - the absolute worst picture you have ever posted is one of suburban Dallas with mini-mansions, brown grass, and no trees. I just don't understand how people can buy such nice homes without paying money to landscape them properly! Picture #4 is an example of a fairly attractive, albeit sprawling, middle class suburban neighborhood.

PS - that is an enormous shopping center in which Walmart is located... are most Walmarts that big? (I have only visited one in person)

[James Bond Agent 007]

^
A lot of the treeless ones are developments built on farm land rather than in woods. The newer ones of these will look bare for quite some time until the landscaping grows older.

[crisp444]

Thanks for the explanation - at least forests don't have to be cleared in order to build the new homes. Another thing I notice about your Midtwestern US photos is that very few of the homes are fenced or walled, even when the houses are built very close to one another. I know that most suburbs here in the US (save some in California and Florida) rarely have gates/walls in the front of the yard, but I am surprised to see that the land between the homes is almost never separated. It gives the illusion that these suburbs are like parkland.. more communal than private. Is this a common value in that part of the country? I feel it adds to monotony, but the space does feel more "wide open" than California/Florida/LatinAmerican/European suburbs.

[hydrobond]

Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with this one?
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6300/columbus6dj0.jpg

I see fairly dense housing on the left and better than average retail on the right. Am I missing something?

[James Bond Agent 007]

^
It's not "sprawl" but it's still "suburban." A lot of these I stick in here just for the heck of it even though they might not actually be real "sprawl."

[Buckeye Native 001]

Anyone familiar with Columbus recognize parts of Hilliard? I couldn't really tell, but it looks like Polaris Mall made it into some of those shots?

[jgibson4]

Yeah, I recognize some of those Hilliard shots, theres a couple from Worthington too. And of course Easton, which is all lit up now for the holidays, and looks amazing.

[LMich]

^
It's not "sprawl" but it's still "suburban." A lot of these I stick in here just for the heck of it even though they might not actually be real "sprawl."

It's most definitely sprawl (i.e. autocentric). Sprawl, ironically, can be dense.

Crisp, I never really paid attention to that, but much there is a lot of sprawl (at least in my area), where the backyards are completely open with no fences. I never really thought it was unusal.

[ColDayMan]

Yeah, lots of Hilliard shots in there.

[crisp444]

LMich, it's just something different that I am not accustomed to seeing. I thought it was standard in American suburbia to have the backyard fenced (at the very least) and many times the side yard as well. The gate/wall in the front is not very "American" so I didn't really expect to see that. The miles and miles of green grass in the Midwest without fences gives the illusion that you live in a park and that the space is communal to everyone.. which must be very cool for children who want to play baseball and ride bikes. Here are some pictures of what I am accustomed to seeing - which is a huge contrast with these Columbus pictures.

Inner/middle suburban area
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q270/crisp444/miamihouse.jpg
Outer suburban area
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q270/crisp444/BWwTYDNOA1CN0IQbHNAMpz2piD5v.jpg
Inner suburban area
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q270/crisp444/Tu9wvKncY9yywiMmdkmbYSTq0UEc.jpg

[LMich]

Crisp,

Take a look at this very recent article in my local paper that deals with a new development about the idea you speak of:

Developers to preserve woods for new condos

Project expected to net Delhi Township $1 million in taxes

December 6, 2006

By Will Kangas
Special to the State Journal

DELHI TWP. - Evergreen Village Subdivision will live up to its name, according to township officials.

The newly approved plans include a large open, wooded permanent space that everyone in the condominium-style development can use.

http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061206/NEWS01/612060347/1002/CONTACTUS01

[A&Fcolumbus]

These pictures seem to be mostly the surrounding 270 outerbelt.

These are in the far reaching newly developed areas of the Columbus city limits and suburbs. The newer development in these areas is usually desnse sprawl. Columbus' doesn't develop as much sprawly sprawl, becasue land values closer to the innercity are too high to do so. The developer would get less profit.

[Wheelingman04]

Yeah, lots of Hilliard shots in there.

My favorite suburb.:haha:

[James Bond Agent 007]

Speaking of the Midwest, Detroit is next, in case anyone's interested.

Windows Live Local only has coverage of Detroit's western suburbs, but that should be good enough.