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WonderlandPark
12-19-2006, 01:21 AM
Going to start out in Tillamook County and will be by far the most capable undersea cable laid in the Pacific.

From this sleepy beach:
http://www.vacationrentals.com/_pictures/7932_8.jpg

to the world's largest nation:
http://www.concierge.com/images/destinations/destinationguide/asia/china/shanghai/shanghai/shanghai_001hl.jpg

" NEW YORK (Reuters) - Verizon Communications Inc. said on Monday it and five Asian partners will build a $500 million (256 million pound) high-speed optical cable linking the United States and China in a bid to benefit from burgeoning Internet activity in China.

Verizon Business, the unit of the No. 2 U.S. phone carrier that handles corporate sales, and partners China Telecom, China Netcom, China Unicom, Korea Telecom and Chunghwa Telecom will start building the undersea cable in the first quarter of 2007, Verizon said.

The cable will have about 60 times the capacity of existing lines between the United States and China and will be capable of supporting the equivalent of 62 million phone calls simultaneously, Verizon said. Most existing cables between the two countries go through Japan, slowing down service.

Verizon said it expects the cable to be completed in the third quarter of 2008. It said it would likely see a return on the investment from its first year. "

Urbanpdx
12-19-2006, 02:50 AM
That is awesome!

MarkDaMan
12-19-2006, 03:53 PM
does the cable float at a certain depth in the ocean? They can't lie a cable along the ocean floor across that distance?

CouvScott
12-19-2006, 05:41 PM
The fiber-optic cables that Alcatel used to drop in the ocean between Nedonna Beach (pretty close to Tillamook) and Alaska and Japan would just drape across the floor of the ocean. It also had a secondary copper conductor that would carry a charge to fend off shark bite. I'm sure this one will be similar.

edgepdx
12-19-2006, 07:35 PM
The fiber-optic cables that Alcatel used to drop in the ocean between Nedonna Beach (pretty close to Tillamook) and Alaska and Japan would just drape across the floor of the ocean. It also had a secondary copper conductor that would carry a charge to fend off shark bite. I'm sure this one will be similar.

Yep, they just get draped across the ocean floor. The copper also powers the fiber repeaters. The intercontinental fiber network is truly an engineering wonder and the reason it's cheaper to have customer service people located in India rather than in the US. I read an article about the undersea fiber network in Wired magazine, evidently fishing boats snag the lines with their nets all the time and break them. Then a ship has to go out and find the break, pull up both ends from miles underwater and re-splice the cable.

northface
12-19-2006, 08:20 PM
what about klike underwater volcanoes? what if they blow up and blow the cable up?

ajmstilt
12-19-2006, 09:00 PM
what about klike underwater volcanoes? what if they blow up and blow the cable up?


They've been layign sea floor cables for over a hundred years.

the first transatlantic cable was in the 1850's. (tho it was 1865 before one worked reliably)

So they've been doing this for a very long time....

WonderlandPark
12-20-2006, 04:33 AM
Undersea volcanoes, those at the mid-ocean ridges do erupt, but, remember, they do it on geologic time scales, thousands of years can go between hot spots on the ridge. By then we will be teleporting from Portland to Shanghai for like $29 each way on Virgin Trans-porter or something :)

northface
12-20-2006, 09:27 AM
haha thanks for the answers guys!

Urbanpdx
12-20-2006, 04:37 PM
Undersea volcanoes, those at the mid-ocean ridges do erupt, but, remember, they do it on geologic time scales, thousands of years can go between hot spots on the ridge. By then we will be teleporting from Portland to Shanghai for like $29 each way on Virgin Trans-porter or something :)

But we will still be riding 19th century mass tansit because there is just no way we will be able to figure out how to make a car that doesn't polute..:haha:

zilfondel
12-21-2006, 01:54 AM
But we will still be riding 19th century mass tansit because there is just no way we will be able to figure out how to make a car that doesn't polute..:haha:

Steam trains and horse carriages? Naa, haven't seen too many of those around lately. Try Romania, I heard they have some. China too. For horse carriages, anyways.



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