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James Bond Agent 007
Dec 21, 2006, 7:27 AM
Link to the first thread in this series.
USA Sprawl Festival (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=112959)

Or, click on the following links to see just individual cities in that thread:

Kansas City (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2240987&postcount=1)
Some northern Denver suburbs (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241038&postcount=3)
Albuquerque (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241043&postcount=4)
Seattle (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241046&postcount=6)
Las Vegas (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241049&postcount=7)
Dallas-Fort Worth (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241120&postcount=15)
Some western & southern Minneapolis suburbs (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2241150&postcount=16)
Orange County, California (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2242458&postcount=33)
Philadelphia (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2243795&postcount=39)
Tucson (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2244020&postcount=40)
Orlando (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2246260&postcount=54)
Northern Virginia/DC (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2248127&postcount=77)
Cleveland (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2248415&postcount=79)
Houston (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2250662&postcount=126)
Atlanta (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2252845&postcount=148)
Indianapolis (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2255900&postcount=169)
Long Island, New York (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2258869&postcount=186)
Jacksonville (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2262283&postcount=188)
Boston (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2288881&postcount=198)

And the 2nd round ones:

Phoenix-East (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115970)
Phoenix-South (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115974)
Phoenix-North (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115972)
Phoenix-West (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115971)
Portland (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116211)
Silicon Valley (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2342500)
Los Angeles (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116366)
San Bernardino County (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116460)
San Diego - south (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116473)
San Diego - north (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116668)
Buffalo (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2364201)
Broward County, Florida (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=117116)
Dallas-Fort Worth II (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=117213)
Riverside County, California (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=117511)
Denver - south suburbs (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118325)
Orange County II (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118331)
Bergen and Passaic Counties, New Jersey (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118454)
Milwaukee (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=119705)
Columbus (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2491318)
El Paso, with some Juarez (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=121264)
San Antonio (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=121358)
Detroit (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=121589)
Tampa (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=121653)
Cincinnati (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=122163)

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EAST BAY AREA, KOLLYFORNIA

Oakland and environs in case some of our non-American friends don't know.

The rule of thumb for these pics is, the fewer trees there are, the farther east the pic was taken. Except for new development, which tends not to have many trees at all.

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/6533/eastbay1sj4.jpg

Close-up of some newer houses. Looks like . . . the same thing in Silicon Valley, SoCal and Sacramento.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/725/eastbay2hx6.jpg

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/1006/eastbay3cv7.jpg

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4518/eastbay4dt3.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7656/eastbay5gs1.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/6197/eastbay6fc1.jpg

Not sprawl. Some inner-city areas of Oakland (I think) for comparison.
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7838/eastbay7jv9.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/6481/eastbay8ub2.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/962/eastbay9yy0.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7528/eastbay10es7.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/312/eastbay11mu7.jpg

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7923/eastbay12tq1.jpg

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/189/eastbay13mm3.jpg

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/5817/eastbay14hi6.jpg

At least it's got a BART station.
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3821/eastbay15oo7.jpg

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7151/eastbay16su0.jpg

You can play tennis or go swimming on your lunch break. Only in Kollyfornia.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9774/eastbay17qk4.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4455/eastbay18cn3.jpg

Gotta refine oil for all that sprawl. There's lots of refineries and oil tank farms in the Bay Area, especially the north Bay, it seems.
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2489/eastbay19bs1.jpg

Oil is needed to get to these. God bless America, Land of Eternal Sprawl!
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8122/eastbay20yr7.jpg

Are you bored yet?
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2052/eastbay21sl0.jpg

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2510/eastbay22ua4.jpg

Another close-up of new houses. At least they're somewhat dense.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5762/eastbay23xt6.jpg

New on the left, old on the right.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3784/eastbay24mq7.jpg

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3189/eastbay25wm9.jpg

I believe this was pretty far east, almost to Stockton if I recall correctly.
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/2571/eastbay26az3.jpg

Here I ventured farther west again, I think.
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/8297/eastbay27cb5.jpg

A denser sort-of neotraditional development along the waterfront (in Richmond or thereabouts).
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/9926/eastbay28xb5.jpg

Close-up of some older sprawl.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2866/eastbay29df0.jpg

Here's what it all looked like before the sprawl . . .
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2707/eastbay30zw2.jpg

. . . Now let's add some "improvements." :)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6918/eastbay31ee0.jpg

This was reasonably interesting. New housing on the edges of a mall. I think this was in Walnut Creek. It looked like this would normally be spots for "outparcel" development such as fast food joints. But it appears they decided to go another route for these particular lots. Good idea.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2207/eastbay32gz6.jpg

Typical "power center" shopping center. With houses in back.
http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/1526/eastbay33cb7.jpg

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/6888/eastbay34zr9.jpg

Looks like the hillside stuff in my L.A. sprawl thread.
http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/9605/eastbay35ns8.jpg

Back to the waterfront. I think this was in Alameda. At least it's dense.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7838/eastbay36fr7.jpg

More older not-so-sprawly inner city stuff, for comparison.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3479/eastbay37zx0.jpg

UC Berkeley, just for the heck of it.
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/4090/eastbay38qm0.jpg

Nice hillside stuff.
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/1071/eastbay39fn4.jpg

A traffic jam amid the sprawl. How appropriate.
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/6914/eastbay40wd4.jpg

BigKidD
Dec 21, 2006, 9:32 AM
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3821/eastbay15oo7.jpg
Pleasant Hill, CA right next to Walnut Creek and Concord by the way. Head south of the Pleasant Hill Bart Station and you will hit the heart of Walnut Creek's downtown.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2207/eastbay32gz6.jpg
Doesn't look like Walnut Creek to me. Not much room to actually expand around here at all. Perhaps a community in the far interior of the East Bay.

keninhalifax
Dec 21, 2006, 3:37 PM
That neighbourhood with the many short cul-de-sacs and the long, white-roofed houses is absolutely hideous; it's the most poorly-designed street network I've seen in ages.

BuildCTPlace
Dec 21, 2006, 7:02 PM
That neighbourhood with the many short cul-de-sacs and the long, white-roofed houses is absolutely hideous; it's the most poorly-designed street network I've seen in ages.

It's called a "trailer park" here in the U.S.

sgoet
Dec 22, 2006, 3:34 AM
The JC Penny mall in "walnut creek" actually looks like Hilltop Mall in Richmond.

oak-sea
Dec 22, 2006, 5:34 AM
Lets not forget the 97,000 acres of open space preserved as the East Bay Regional Park District: the largest urban park district in the United States. There may be sprawl in the 510 (good job on digging up some proof), but it ain't your run of the mill sprawl, and there is a hell of a lot of land that's been set aside for the newts and the owls.

James Bond Agent 007
Dec 22, 2006, 6:08 AM
I'm surprised I've gotten no comments about the A's. :)

Or maybe no one thought that commenting was worth the effort. :D

BigKidD
Dec 22, 2006, 8:30 AM
Quite a bit of open space in the East Bay. Takes me only 15 minutes to walk to near the nearest open space area and hike or mountain bike until I cannot any longer.
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/6914/eastbay40wd4.jpg
Interesting picture. It's funny that the houses and trees in this picture are not too old since the the previous ones burned down in the Oakland hills fire. Also, the traffic was probably caused by only one of the bores of the Caldecott tunnel open for traffic leaving Oakland and SF. The middle bore is shifted to accommodate heavy traffic throughout the day causing a significant slow down in traffic speed.
I'm a Giants fan by the way, so do what you want to the A's and the Coliseum.