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NYguy
Oct 16, 2008, 5:14 PM
Ah, thanks, the site I was thinking of is the Fulton Street transit center. I had no idea it was that close.

It will be connected to the PATH/WTC site by an underground walkway which they have been working on for the past couple of years,
so in a sense, it is a part of the site.

It's also worth noting how close 30 Park and Beekman are:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/2944295880_b95b9939c9_b.jpg

NYC4Life
Oct 21, 2008, 1:24 AM
Update from LowerManhattan.info (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/99_church_street_33450.aspx#links)



*The following information was last updated on October 17, 2008.

Pile driving began September 15 and continues through mid-December 2008
Foundation work through February 2009
Superstructure begins February 2009 and will continue through December 2010
Crane installed on September 3, 2008
Coordination with the city's reconstruction of Park Place (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/beekman_streetpark_place_reconstruction_68191.aspx)

NYguy
Oct 23, 2008, 7:25 AM
silverstein properties:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104930422/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104930428/large.jpg

CGII
Oct 23, 2008, 12:00 PM
silverstein properties:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104930422/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104930428/large.jpg

Um, ew.

Bad renderings at their worst, they make this building look like Miami in Lower Manhattan. The base looks dreadful.

scalziand
Oct 23, 2008, 6:46 PM
Doesn't look as good as the Barclay tower across the street. This particular render almost reminds me of the Elysian in Chicago, except this is going to be made out of real stone. I just wish this had more Deco-y details at the base.

scalziand
Oct 25, 2008, 7:41 PM
I finally added this tower to the downtown render.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9453/56again30ppkf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NYC4Life
Oct 25, 2008, 9:49 PM
That is one impressive cluster, can't wait to see it rise, and to think that's only about half the towers planned for Lower Manhattan.

Kamatzu
Oct 26, 2008, 6:42 PM
I finally added this tower to the downtown render.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9453/56again30ppkf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Oh god, tell me they aren't actually building that jumbled-up apartment building in the middle. It completely ruins an otherwise beautiful scene. That's considered interesting and abstract? It's completely disgusting and distasteful.

Please someone, tell me they've scrapped that project... Please?

NYC4Life
Oct 26, 2008, 9:34 PM
Sorry, but foundation and prep work has already begun at 56 Leonard. I believe the tower will appear much better than the rendering above.

antinimby
Oct 26, 2008, 10:36 PM
Doesn't look as good as the Barclay tower across the street.You can't be serious? The Barclay tower is cheap ass garbage whereas this tower, while not everyone's cup of tea, is infinitely more classy and expensive.

antinimby
Oct 26, 2008, 10:39 PM
Oh god, tell me they aren't actually building that jumbled-up apartment building in the middle.It's actually the most architecturally interesting tower in that rendering. All the others are really just a bunch of flat-glass towers with only their assorted tops to make them stand out.

scalziand
Oct 27, 2008, 5:58 AM
You can't be serious? The Barclay tower is cheap ass garbage whereas this tower, while not everyone's cup of tea, is infinitely more classy and expensive.
Whoops, I worded that rather poorly. I was actually referring to the bases of the respective towers. When the towers are taken as a whole and compared to each other, I'll agree; 30 Park is much better than the Barclay tower. I had just expected more details at the base of 30 park.

NYC4Life
Oct 29, 2008, 5:57 PM
Curbed.com

Hotel Armageddon: Huge Projects in Holding Patterns?

Wednesday, October 29, 2008, by Joey

http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_10_99church.jpg

It's no surprise that the credit crunch has wreaked havoc on the hotel boom that had threatened to turn all of Manhattan into one big pillow mint, but according to the Times, some highly-anticipated projects may be completely screwed. Sure, some new inns like the Cooper Square Hotel have had to slash their expected rates significantly, but that's child's play compared to these other problems. "Hotel professionals" told the Times that Larry Silverstein's Robert A.M. Stern-designed 80-story Four Seasons at 99 Church Street/30 Park Place (right) is "delayed or canceled," though a Silverstein rep denies it (and what about the building's condos?). There's more. The Lehman Brothers bankruptcy has stalled two projects: the Kent Swig/Robert De Niro/et al. Nobu Hotel in the Financial District, and the Norman Foster-designed Shangri-La in Midtown. Oh, and those two hotels planned for Pearl Street—the ones that caused the controversial demolition of historic 213 Pearl Street—well, the Lam Group hopes to "eventually" build on the site. Until then, they're open to suggestions!

photoLith
Oct 30, 2008, 3:12 AM
Dammit! This was one of my favorite buildings going in, and now much like the chicago spire, they both seem screwed. I might as well just swim out into the North River and float away, oh well.

chex
Oct 30, 2008, 10:46 PM
damn!

NYC4Life
Oct 31, 2008, 1:30 AM
This one should be changed to "On Hold" as well.

Antares41
Oct 31, 2008, 3:26 AM
I say it premature. the Silverstein folks (or at least one rep) is denying it. Let wait until we hear from the man himself. Given that the "possible delay" is in print shouldn't take to long to get the current status.

scalziand
Oct 31, 2008, 4:40 AM
I say it premature. the Silverstein folks (or at least one rep) is denying it. Let wait until we hear from the man himself. Given that the "possible delay" is in print shouldn't take to long to get the current status.

Right. I can't see Silverstein letting this one remain without funding for very long.

kazpmk
Oct 31, 2008, 7:39 PM
This better not be on hold!!

NYguy
Nov 2, 2008, 11:06 PM
I say it premature. the Silverstein folks (or at least one rep) is denying it. Let wait until we hear from the man himself. Given that the "possible delay" is in print shouldn't take to long to get the current status.

Silverstein won't disappoint.

NOVEMBER 1, 2008

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105413689/large.jpg

NYguy
Nov 4, 2008, 12:29 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042008/business/apple_drops_out_of_34th_st__site_136862.htm?page=0

http://www.nypost.com/img/cols/stevecuozzo.jpg

November 4, 2008

The media are full of stories about development schemes that supposedly tanked.

Some have indeed cratered, but not all have - at least not yet - despite what The New York Times says.

...The Times also included in the "delayed or canceled" category "Larry Silverstein's 175-room Four Seasons Hotel at 99 Church St." - an odd way to describe a hotel/condo that will be the city's tallest residential tower rising to 912 feet.

But an army of men is working on the huge site.

The Silverstein camp declares, "Larry is committed, CalSTRS [his joint-venture partner] is committed and Four Seasons is committed."

And sources said Silverstein already has offers for a construction loan well before he'll need one.

Antares41
Nov 4, 2008, 6:11 PM
^ Things may change in the future, but, for now I would considered the myth of cancellation "busted":yes:

NYC4Life
Nov 4, 2008, 10:37 PM
I highly doubted Silverstein would had ever let this one get cancelled.

lakegz
Nov 19, 2008, 8:36 PM
Sigh. Lower Manhattan looks like it got bombed recently. And I'm not only talking about WTC.

NYC4Life
Nov 21, 2008, 1:24 AM
This tower is still very alive and work continues on its foundation.

NYC4Life
Nov 21, 2008, 9:06 PM
LowerManhattan.info (http://lowermanhattan.info/news/pile_driving_underway_at_97072.aspx)
November 20, 2008

Pile Driving Underway at 99 Church Street

Foundation construction is progressing on schedule at 99 Church Street, located between Barclay and Park Place. On November 18th, crews began driving piles at the site of the future 80-story luxury hotel and residential tower. The pile driving continues through the end of 2008, and takes place during regular construction hours -- weekdays from 7 a.m. to 3 p.m., possibly extended to 6 p.m. on occasions.

Developer Silverstein Properties says that by using a hydraulic hammer (rather than a diesel hammer), the pile driving involves less noise and less pollution. It also delivers fewer blows than a diesel hammer. Crews also are monitoring vibrations from the hammer and adjusting the energy it uses accordingly. The tower is planned to open in 2011.

lakegz
Nov 21, 2008, 9:37 PM
^^ that was my coworker posting on my account but i can agree with his sentiment. Work really should continue on this one considering what they destroyed to clear up space.

Duffstuff129
Dec 13, 2008, 2:47 AM
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_58_99churc-dec2008.jpg

From the user Ebola on SkyScraperCity. Work has progressed significantly already.

(I'm not sure about the exact date of the picture, but it was only posted today on SSC.)

NYguy
Dec 13, 2008, 12:32 PM
^ Cool. I may check it out over the next couple of days.

Antares41
Dec 17, 2008, 10:14 PM
Are there any good renderings showing the western face of this building, specifically the very top floors? I submitted a drawing but I had to "guestimate" what the top may look like from some of the side(north face) views. I perused through the various posts but could not find anything illustrations that gave me a definitive view.

NYguy
Dec 28, 2008, 12:53 AM
^ Haven't seen any.

DECEMBER 26, 2008

Gehry's tower has the early lead...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504776/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504786/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504793/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504812/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504825/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504841/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504842/large.jpg

antinimby
Dec 31, 2008, 9:46 PM
I took these (with my camera phone) this past Monday. It was during the middle of the workday but as you can see, there wasn't a worker in sight.


http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6734/dsc00050ra8.th.jpg (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00050ra8.jpg) http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1513/dsc00051oe7.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00051oe7.jpg)

ZZ-II
Jan 1, 2009, 4:11 PM
can't imagine it's on-hold

CSABA8
Jan 3, 2009, 2:27 PM
Anyone can answer, why is so many steel beams just in one place ? ( picture #328 )

CoolCzech
Jan 4, 2009, 1:32 AM
I like the image of the building on Silverstein's site, the rendering on the left:

http://www.silversteinproperties.com/uploads/images/properties-headers/9ee4c73e-a9cd-4551-8fbf-8e630dec4a6d_30_park_place.jpg

NYguy
Jan 4, 2009, 12:32 PM
^ Here's another look at that one...

silverstein properties:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104930422/large.jpg

NYguy
Jan 4, 2009, 12:36 PM
Anyone can answer, why is so many steel beams just in one place ? ( picture #328 )

According to wtc.com, when that photo was taken (Dec 8th), pile driving was more than 50% complete.

TANGELD_SLC
Jan 5, 2009, 4:20 AM
So is this going ahead as planned? I hope so, it's really nice looking.

NYguy
Jan 6, 2009, 12:11 AM
So is this going ahead as planned? I hope so, it's really nice looking.

It hasn't been canceled.

AtlanticaC5
Jan 7, 2009, 9:53 PM
Imagine having an apartment facing east at the same height as Woolworth Building's crown, now that would be quite a spectacular view.

NYguy
Jan 7, 2009, 10:34 PM
Imagine having an apartment facing east at the same height as Woolworth Building's crown, now that would be quite a spectacular view.

It would be amazing, especially at night. There are similar views from the Barclay St tower and 7 WTC.

CoolCzech
Jan 7, 2009, 11:44 PM
Have workers returned to site, lately?

YSL
Jan 13, 2009, 2:45 AM
Yea, I read that work has resumed at this site.

antinimby
Jan 13, 2009, 2:52 AM
Where did you read that?

YSL
Jan 13, 2009, 11:15 PM
curbed.com

NYguy
Jan 14, 2009, 12:36 AM
That was posted on curbed.com today:

FINANCIAL DISTRICT—Amibition is not dead. A tipster alerts us to the action going on at Larry Silverstein's Robert A.M. Stern-designed 30 Park Place, a Four Seasons/condo building that will be New York City's tallest residential building: "Notice work restarted there today after what I noticed was a stoppage from before the Christmas holiday. Any news on why, stop work order?" Nope, none that we see. The Times has reported that this project is delayed indefinitely. [CurbedWire Inbox]

If true, that will go along with Silverstein's rough schedule.

NYguy
Jan 23, 2009, 8:34 AM
Didn't notice any activity at the site today. But then again, I never have.

RoldanTTLB
Jan 24, 2009, 4:03 AM
They were delivering more steel to be pile driven this morning. I didn't notice any actual driving going on, but the pile driver was in a different spot than Thursday morning. I walk by the site every morning on the way to work, so I'll see about sneaking a few photos one of these mornings. It's not the tightest construction fence ever, but it's not swiss cheese.

NYguy
Jan 24, 2009, 12:49 PM
They were delivering more steel to be pile driven this morning. I didn't notice any actual driving going on, but the pile driver was in a different spot than Thursday morning. I walk by the site every morning on the way to work, so I'll see about sneaking a few photos one of these mornings.

That would be good.

NYguy
Jan 27, 2009, 12:46 AM
According to wtc.com, pile driving is completed...

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_58_99-Church_Jan-2009.jpg


http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_58_99-Church-II_Jan-2009.jpg

CoolCzech
Jan 27, 2009, 2:19 AM
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_58_99-Church-II_Jan-2009.jpg

It looks like a miniature diorama... :haha:

RoldanTTLB
Jan 27, 2009, 4:33 AM
They were delivering rebar (real thick stuff) this morning, but I still haven't gotten to take any pictures. I'll try really hard to remember a camera tomorrow.

Edit:
Took a camera this morning, but I couldn't find a good spot to take a photo that wasn't swarming with workers. The fence is pretty solid on the north side of the site. I'll have to try the Barclay side tomorrow. They were definitely doing stuff though.

Duffstuff129
Feb 15, 2009, 11:27 PM
http://nd.blog.cz/v/vall-kate.blog.cz/obrazky/16577024.gif

Good news every one! (I'll bet you read that in his voice)

I went down to the site today, and though I wasn't allowed to take any pictures, I talked to the guy "guarding" the site. He said the project is definitely going ahead and that they're currently doing some foundation work and pumping ground water out.

:D

Edit: Also, from the little I saw I can assure you all that there was definitely a very clear floor/foundation at the bottom of the pit, so in the time since this: http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_58_99-Church_Jan-2009.jpg was taken, a lot has happened.


Or to be a bit more clear: This is going quite quickly indeed and is definitely not in any way on hold. At all.

NYguy
Feb 16, 2009, 4:45 AM
I went down to the site today, and though I wasn't allowed to take any pictures, I talked to the guy "guarding" the site. He said the project is definitely going ahead and that they're currently doing some foundation work and pumping ground water out.

Or to be a bit more clear: This is going quite quickly indeed and is definitely not in any way on hold. At all.

Other than a little speculation by some, there was never any idication that this tower was on hold. Sure, things are slowgoing, but they always are at this point. We'll know when Silverstein begins to moblize for more substantial progress.

CoolCzech
Feb 23, 2009, 2:08 AM
Excellent news indeed, duffstuff!

It's heartening to see projects like this proceed despite the economy...

NYguy
Feb 23, 2009, 1:05 PM
It's heartening to see projects like this proceed despite the economy...

It will be even moreso when they get a crane on site.

NYguy
Mar 18, 2009, 9:07 PM
http://www.rew-online.com/news/story.aspx?id=621

Silverstein concedes that 100 Church Street is on hold

Daniel Geiger
3/18/2009


Speaking at a real estate breakfast held by the New York Post today, World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein continued to pledge that he would build the three office towers he is planning to develop at the site as fast as he could but admitted that another of his downtown projects has been put on hold.

Silverstein indicated that his plans to build the city’s tallest residential building at 100 Church Street, complete with a Four Seasons hotel in its base, had been paralyzed by continued dysfunction in the debt markets, which have cut off cash for development projects whose risk has been heightened by a faltering economy.

“Is this going forward? Can’t do it without financing,” Silverstein said. “Is financing available today? Not easily. Will financing be available? One of these days the world’s going to come back together again and financing will be available and we’ll build this edifice. It’s going to be stunning, it’s going to be spectacular. It’s going to be the finest damn hotel in all of Manhattan.”

Although Silverstein stressed his commitment to building the World Trade Center towers, those too appeared to get stretched beyond their current estimates in his description of when the projects would get done.

“When we’re done in 2014 or 2015, 16, or 17… one of these days it will all get done, not fast enough for me, but that’s a fact a life,” Silverstein said.

Although the foundation of Tower Four is currently underway, work on World Trade Center Towers Two and Three have been delayed because the Port Authority, which owns the site, hasn’t yet completed preparatory work it is required to finish before handing the adjacent development parcels over to Silverstein. Given the setback, it seems clear that the current development timeline for the two buildings is behind schedule. So far however, no formal reevaluation of the construction schedule for the towers has been released by either Silverstein or the Port Authority.

Some real estate experts have indicated that the delays are convenient for Silverstein because it would allow him to postpone being required to build millions of square feet of speculative office space at a time when demand from office tenants appears nonexistent and downtown, instead of booming like it did in the years after 9/11, appears poised now for a major uptick in vacancy.

But Silverstein swatted away suggestions that he would like to postpone the work to wait for better economic times and said that the only thing holding him back was that the Port Authority had not yet handed him the development parcels. The two towers wouldn’t fall victim to the credit crunch he said because they are to be financed from insurance proceeds at the site and Liberty Bonds.

By the time they are complete, Silverstein added, the recession will have likely passed. He predicated that by 2011, the banks will be making a “ton of money.”

“If we start the towers today, the earliest Tower Four could get done is 2012, the earliest Tower Two could get done is 2014, the earliest Tower Three could get done is 2015 or 2016,” Silverstein said. “If the world isn’t coming together by 2014, 15 or 16, forget it, go and hibernate somewhere.”

antinimby
Mar 19, 2009, 12:46 AM
I love Silverstein's positive outlook.

NYguy
Mar 19, 2009, 5:40 AM
I love Silverstein's positive outlook.

Well, its not like he can go around saying "it's all damned to hell!" But the man's been around, he's seen good times and bad, some worse than others. That's not to say he might not be a little concerned, but he knows enough to know that tomorrow is another day. And if it isn't, then nothing matters anyway.

NYguy
Mar 31, 2009, 11:22 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03312009/business/silver_lining_for_99_church_st__162103.htm

'SILVER' LINING FOR 99 CHURCH ST.

http://www.nypost.com/img/cols/stevecuozzo.jpg

March 31, 2009

LARRY Silverstein's 99 Church St. Four Seasons Hotel/condo tower is far from dead, despite reports elsewhere that it's been indefinitely tabled.

The developer himself fueled the speculation at the recent Dealmakers' Forum sponsored by The Post and the Real Estate Board of New York. In a speech, Silverstein said of the Robert A.M. Stern-designed, 912-foot-tall tower, "Is this going forward? Can't do it without financing.

"Is financing available today? Not easily. Will financing be available? One of these days . . . financing will be available and we'll build this edifice."

Asked to clarify, Silverstein gave us a statement that the foundation will be finished this summer -- "At that point, we hope to have the construction financing that will enable us to complete the project."

A source familiar with Silverstein's thinking was slightly more revealing.

"The question of, does it go to the next phase, is obviously on the table," this source said. "It's a conventionally structured project with 75 percent financing, and they're looking for financing options.

"While they're optimistic, and while there are several possible sources of financing, they don't want to overstate things, and it's by no means a done deal. But it isn't like certain other projects that have had the door closed to them, period."

The source also said there's no way to build only the hotel portion, which occupies the lower 22 floors, and add the condo floors above it later -- "It will be built all at once or not at all."

RoldanTTLB
Apr 2, 2009, 4:14 PM
So I know this one has been "ON HOLD" for while, but I have to admit, I walk by it every morning, and there are ALWAYS construction workers on site (I also assume that since this is a private job and not the DOT that they are actually working). Anyway, I received quite the shock this morning as I walked by...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SdTjRWy0dlI/AAAAAAAAB0c/HSq0kOmkHmo/s800/DSC01158.JPG

Notice anything interesting? One of these days maybe I'll have an excuse to visit our client in Woolworth and get a photo from up there. I haven't in some time, unfortunately.

NYguy
Apr 2, 2009, 11:42 PM
I do believe that in the end the delay for this one will have been a minor one, similar to the WTC towers...

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03312009/business/silver_lining_for_99_church_st__162103.htm

'SILVER' LINING FOR 99 CHURCH ST.

March 31, 2009

...Silverstein gave us a statement that the foundation will be finished this summer -- "At that point, we hope to have the construction financing that will enable us to complete the project."

A source familiar with Silverstein's thinking was slightly more revealing.

"The question of, does it go to the next phase, is obviously on the table," this source said. "It's a conventionally structured project with 75 percent financing, and they're looking for financing options.

"While they're optimistic, and while there are several possible sources of financing, they don't want to overstate things, and it's by no means a done deal. But it isn't like certain other projects that have had the door closed to them, period."

I wonder what those "certain other projects" are. Could they be talking 56 Leonard?

RoldanTTLB
Apr 3, 2009, 3:54 AM
I wonder what those "certain other projects" are. Could they be talking 56 Leonard?

I sort of assumed that he was talking about that Drake business, Mackelowe was it? Could be 56 Leonard, though. Could also be 5 WTC, I'm not sure anything is going to go up there for some time after DB comes down. I actually suspect the 123 Washington crew would love if nothing went up there.

NYguy
Apr 3, 2009, 4:13 AM
I actually suspect the 123 Washington crew would love if nothing went up there.

They would have better views if nothing went up there, but the land is to valuable in space starved Downtown for a tower not to go there..

photoLith
Apr 3, 2009, 4:41 AM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SdTjRWy0dlI/AAAAAAAAB0c/HSq0kOmkHmo/s800/DSC01158.JPG



This doesnt really relate but I just had to comment on that beautiful Greek temple revival style bank or whatever it is on the right side of that photo. Only in NYC would a building like that go unnoticed when in any other city, it would be a well known historic landmark most likely. Is that building protected by any chance? Anyone know?

RoldanTTLB
Apr 3, 2009, 4:47 AM
This doesnt really relate but I just had to comment on that beautiful Greek temple revival style bank or whatever it is on the right side of that photo. Only in NYC would a building like that go unnoticed when in any other city, it would be a well known historic landmark most likely. Is that building protected by any chance? Anyone know?

I know it's a church with what I feel is an incredibly kitschy steel cross from 9/11 on the Church St side of it. I'll check tomorrow or Monday morning if there's a plaque on it saying it's protected. It's probably been there for some time now.

NYguy
Apr 3, 2009, 4:53 AM
I believe some of the air rights for the Barclay St residential tower (next door) came from that church (St. Peter's). I also believe that church is the oldest something in Manhattan.

Here's some further reading on it...
http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Sep2003/feature2.asp

avngingandbright
Apr 3, 2009, 3:50 PM
I walked by the site yesterday; I was amazed that this is right next to, I mean, physically touching the Woolworth building. This should be a rather nice cluster once completed. The area needs something tall and slender. Super excited!

Duffstuff129
Apr 4, 2009, 12:15 AM
http://www.wtc.com/media/images/s/four-seasons-hotel--and--residences-construction

Pictures one and two show foundation work from yesterday. It's going up soon, I tell you, soon! I refuse to believe that it will ever be on hold!!! :hyper:

NYguy
Apr 4, 2009, 2:50 AM
^ They say the foundation should be complete by the summer, and hope to have financing in place by then to continue. I guess it'll be back on hold if they can't. Here are the pics from wtc.com (April 2)

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_58_Pile-Cap-Pour2_April-2009.jpg


http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_58_Pile-Cap-Pour_April-2009.jpg

CHAPINM1
Apr 14, 2009, 9:32 PM
From the renderings on the WTC site, if you include the new Barkely Street Tower, the Woolsworth Building will have some new neighbors and will definetly no longer stand alone! Also, it would be cool if this project could technically be the new WTC Tower 6! It's great once again to see Manhattan outdoing itselfj; however, this time it's definetly on a scale never seen before!!!

NYguy
Apr 15, 2009, 12:02 PM
Also, it would be cool if this project could technically be the new WTC Tower 6! It's great once again to see Manhattan outdoing itselfj; however, this time it's definetly on a scale never seen before!!!

I think all WTC towers should be on the actual WTC site. We're already pushing it with 7 WTC, and now the new 5 WTC.

Still, this tower, when it rises will be a symbol of a different kind of rebirth for Downtown...

dandeluca (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandeluca/3333201320/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3391/3333201320_02df3e1363_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3321/3332363953_b45eb9c351_b.jpg

avngingandbright
Apr 15, 2009, 4:36 PM
This building should be in theory easier to finance than the WTC complex, as people will always want a place to live / own in the city, whereas there is a noted glut in office space in NYC.

NYguy
Apr 15, 2009, 10:04 PM
This building should be in theory easier to finance than the WTC complex, as people will always want a place to live / own in the city, whereas there is a noted glut in office space in NYC.

The planned 56 Leonard Street, (just up the block) is also residential, and stalled due to lack of financing at the moment.

NYguy
May 29, 2009, 6:39 PM
http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/99_church_street_33450.aspx

The following information was last updated on May 27, 2009.

-Foundation work through June 2009

-Two major concrete pours (600CY) planned for May 30th and June 13th, with trucks staging on Barclay Street

-Superstructure construction is not yet scheduled; details will be posted here when they are announced

THE BIG APPLE
May 31, 2009, 9:47 PM
I've been reading 30 Park Place thread from page 1 to 19. I don't know what people were mad about in the beginning, when was the last time downtown got a limestone building. There will also be a public plaza where people can see the back of the Woolworth in 50 years. Good building though.

THE BIG APPLE
May 31, 2009, 9:58 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3321/3332363953_b45eb9c351_b.jpg[/QUOTE]

You see those little buildings next to the Woolworth Building. Are they going when 99 church goes up.

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 1, 2009, 9:02 PM
One of the projects covered under the agreement is developer Larry Silverstein planned Four Seasons Hotel on Church Street. The developer has yet to secure a construction loan but Silverstein Properties World Trade Center Project Director Janno Lieber said he hopes the savings derived from the pact will help obtain financing.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20090529/FREE/905299976

vandelay
Jun 2, 2009, 12:30 AM
It's reassuring that Silverstein seems intent on building this tower. The more Stern buildings in NYC the better as far as I'm concerned.

NYguy
Jun 2, 2009, 12:42 AM
The developer has yet to secure a construction loan but Silverstein Properties World Trade Center Project Director Janno Lieber said he hopes the savings derived from the pact will help obtain financing.

Right. Let the momentum continue.

NYguy
Jun 2, 2009, 12:46 AM
You see those little buildings next to the Woolworth Building. Are they going when 99 church goes up.

Seems they may not...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/92357195/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504825/large.jpg

NYguy
Jun 2, 2009, 10:24 PM
http://www.observer.com/2009/real-estate/atlantic-suing-silverstein-moinian-over-affordable-housing-financing

A Silverstein spokesman, Bud Perrone, said in a statement that the firm hopes to have construction financing secured by the summer, and is currently doing some work on the site’s foundation.

“We are confident that we will prevail on the merits of the case and remain 100 percent committed to the Four Seasons project at 99 Church Street,” Mr. Perrone said.

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 2, 2009, 10:42 PM
This might block the view of the Woolworth from the west and the barclay from south/sw. The Beekman might block the Woolworth from the bridge. But you could still see it from the north, 99 church great addition.

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 7, 2009, 5:54 AM
Not the best design ever but great, great design. It should and will get built. This and the Beekman might be the greatest things to happen to Downtown since the World Trade Center.

CoolCzech
Jun 8, 2009, 2:07 PM
http://www.observer.com/2009/real-estate/atlantic-suing-silverstein-moinian-over-affordable-housing-financing

What a surprise a developer once derided as "Low End Larry" has turned out to be!

Turns out the ONLY man in New York with any guts and vision is... Larry Silverstein.

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 8, 2009, 9:31 PM
My favorite Downtown building. Even better than Beekman, not taking anything away from that amazing tower.

vandelay
Jun 8, 2009, 10:13 PM
What makes this tower great for me is that it riffs off of the great pre-war lower Manhattan towers like 22 William Street on the left center and One Wall Street on the far right:

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/SPEC/120.jpg
http://www.nyc-architecture.com/SPEC/GAL-BW.htm
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/92288658/original.jpg
(nyguy)

See the resemblance?

samoen313
Jun 8, 2009, 10:24 PM
^Vaguely.

While I thoroughly believe in avoiding nostalgic, throwback architecture, based on the Stern's CPW towers, he's probably one of the few to capably handle a building in this style.

You'll never get the level of detail from those pre-Modernism skyscrapers on anything built today, but getting the proportions and material right is 75% of the battle; a battle that is lost more like 99% of the time (see Lucien Lagrange, Chicago).

Busy Bee
Jun 9, 2009, 1:18 AM
^Amen to that. I just wish someone would tell him.

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 12, 2009, 3:13 AM
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/99_church_street_33450.aspx

*The following information was last updated on June 10, 2009.

-Foundation work through June 2009
-A second major concrete pour (600CY) is slated for June 20th, with trucks staging on Barclay Street
-Superstructure construction is not yet scheduled; details will be posted here when they are announced

NYguy
Jun 17, 2009, 2:18 PM
http://newyork.construction.com/features/archive/2009/06_C_99_Church_Street.asp

99 Church Street
Cost: $1 Billion


In a time when half of the country seems to want Wall Street's head on a platter, building a five-star hotel-condominium tower, to many, may seem bold – but that is exactly what developer Silverstein Properties is looking for with 99 Church Street in Lower Manhattan.

Work on the 70-story, 700,000-sq-ft tower started last June.

According to Robert A.M. Stern, 99 Church Street's designer and dean of the Yale School of Architecture, the tower's "rhythm of windows" and light-colored masonry is meant to evoke the Woolworth's exterior. At 912 ft, however, 99 Church Street will tower over the 792-ft Woolworth, which was the tallest building in Manhattan when completed in 1913.

"The most challenging aspect has been designing a building that sits between one of New York’s most iconic buildings--the Woolworth Building--and the new 21st-century office towers that Silverstein Properties is developing at the World Trade Center site," Richard McKinley, development manager at Silverstein Properties wrote in an e-mail responding to questions about the project. "We met this challenge with the design of a slender, limestone building with a formidable structure that also satisfies the expansive hotel and condominium program. We have overcome this challenge by using high strength concrete and steel to minimize the structure’s footprint."

Because of the site limitations, the building's "slender ratio" is greater than 10 to 1. Tishman Construction, the contractor on the project that has also worked on Silverstein's 7 World Trade Center and is the general contractor on several other Silverstein projects downtown, used 14,000 psi concrete for shear walls and columns up to the 24th floor. In all, despite its slenderness, 99 Church required closer to 100,000 tons of concrete and 6,000 tons of rebar steel.

To meet the scheduled completion in the first quarter 2012 (subject to construction loan financing, according to McKinley), the project is employing up to 400 workers on the site. With safety a major concern, the team is using a PERI RCS cocoon system during construction of the superstructure for fall protection.

JACKinBeantown
Jun 17, 2009, 8:01 PM
I saw a red crane sticking up in this general location this morning. (I was in Soho, so I don't know exactly where the crane was.) Is this it?

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 17, 2009, 9:17 PM
^^^I don't think you were in the right location. Soho is about 15 block away from the construction site. Were you on grand street and layfette street, there is construction there, and slso on Broome and Thompson.

Duffstuff129
Jun 17, 2009, 11:35 PM
I saw a red crane sticking up in this general location this morning. (I was in Soho, so I don't know exactly where the crane was.) Is this it?

^^^I don't think you were in the right location. Soho is about 15 block away from the construction site. Were you on grand street and layfette street, there is construction there, and slso on Broome and Thompson.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504825/large.jpg

This is the 99 Church crane, but seeing it from SoHo seems like a stretch.

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 18, 2009, 3:46 AM
Sorry for my spelling. I put slso instead of also.

NYguy
Jun 19, 2009, 1:42 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/06/19/2009-06-19_hardhat_hospitalized_after_falling_20_feet_off_highrise.html

Hardhat hospitalized after falling 20 feet off high-rise

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/19/amd_fall.jpg

by Edgar Sandoval and Jonathan Lemire
June 19th 2009

A construction worker was hospitalized yesterday after he fell 20 feet off a high-rise just north of the World Trade Center site, officials said.

The worker, a 40-year-old man, landed in a pit at the Barclay St. construction site, and while the extent of his injuries was not immediately known, he never lost consciousness, witnesses said.

He was transported to St. Vincent's Hospital Manhattan moments after the 2:30p.m. accident and was listed in stable condition, officials said.

"All of the sudden you see fire trucks everywhere," said Kirk Jameson, a doorman at a nearby building.

"I saw him on the stretcher when they took him away and he wasn't moving," said Jameson, 24. "But the [other construction workers] said he was gonna be okay."

Investigators believe the afternoon's heavy rains and strong winds may have caused the worker to lose his balance.

RoldanTTLB
Jun 19, 2009, 1:50 PM
I would have sworn I posted this photo from Tuesday last night, but I guess I never pressed the button. Here's the crane that was on-site. No idea what it was doing (I mean short of lifting things).

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sjroyk-1o6I/AAAAAAAACQs/qiOnk61joWI/s800/DSC01453.JPG

NYguy
Jun 19, 2009, 2:10 PM
You can see the W (123 Washington) rising in the background, residential bookends to the WTC.

NYguy
Jun 20, 2009, 12:21 AM
http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2009/june/252_worker-hospitalized-after-fall-at-silverstein-construction-site.html

Worker Hospitalized After Fall at Silverstein Construction Site

By Matt Dunning
UPDATED Jun. 19

A worker was hospitalized Thursday afternoon after falling 25 feet at a Lower Manhattan construction site.

Firefighters lifted the 40-year-old man, whose identity was not released, from the site of developer Larry Silverstein’s 57-story hotel and residential tower at 99 Church Street around 2:45 p.m., June 18. He was taken to St. Vincent’s Hospital in Greenwich Village for treatment.

His condition and the exact nature of his injuries were not available, according to a Fire Department spokesman.

The worker is an employee of Urban Foundation Engineering, an East Elmhurst, Queens-based sub-contractor for Tischman Construction, according to a spokeswoman for the city’s Department of Buildings.

The worker was knocked from a platform at street level by an excavator shovel into a 25-foot-deep excavated pit at the site. Workers have been excavating the site since early 2008, though Silverstein admitted recently that construction of the tower was not likely to rise above street level until credit markets improve for residential development.

Following the incident, the DOB has ordered all work stopped on the site until proper fencing and guardrails are installed around the perimeter of the excavated areas, a department spokeswoman said. Tischman was issued three violations for inadequate safety precautions at the site as a result of the accident.

A representative for Tischman did not return calls seeking comment, and an employee who answered the phone at Urban Foundation said the firm would not comment on the accident.

JACKinBeantown
Jun 25, 2009, 4:22 PM
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/107504825/large.jpg

This is the 99 Church crane, but seeing it from SoHo seems like a stretch.

I was at 6th Ave & Bleecker (Village). Obviously not the same crane. From that vantage point the one I saw is almost in line with the Woolworth.