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Jan 10, 2007, 3:48 PM
Dubai's Sheikh Zayed Road was near-empty desert as recently as the early 1990s. Much has changed in the last 15 years and more unnamed plots have recently been released to extend the skyline further.
Please use this thread to post any proposals, renders and updates that appear anywhere along the strip. :tup:
To start off, here is SZR in 1993......
and more recently......
Jan 10, 2007, 4:13 PM
Most recent aerials from Brian McMorrow:
Jan 10, 2007, 4:33 PM
Some of the imposing structures under construction:
Al Tayer Tower:
Nicco hotel + accicio office tower:
Al Durrah (reduced from 330m to about 200m)
Al Attar Tower (On hold since the contractor was fired and they need to find another one)
Jan 10, 2007, 4:43 PM
Wow, a great kickstart to the thread Altin. Thank you very much. :tup:
Jan 11, 2007, 9:40 AM
^^ It wasn't me but MALEC, the UAE moderator on SSC and starter of a similar thread there.
Jan 11, 2007, 12:39 PM
He started a similar SZR thread somewhere else in ssp, but I'm not sure where it is. It would make for good link reference.
Jan 11, 2007, 2:39 PM
I loved the Park Place!
it's just so nice cladding. :D
Jan 11, 2007, 3:04 PM
:previous: I don't ever remember seeing another SZR thread on SSP myself, but it kinda makes sense to have one in the ME&A section anyway!
Some more from Brian McMorrow
Jan 11, 2007, 3:13 PM
:previous:Hey guys, I found that link on SSC courtesy of Florian (SSC's Dubaiflo )
They're all within the vicinity of SZR and many have their own threads too if anyone wants to do any research or updates on these developments. :tup:
Al Manara Tower
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=103246
Shangri La Hotel Towers
Sheikh Ahmed Tower
Dr. Khalifa Tower
Unknown Tower next to Number One Tower Suites
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301179
Number One Tower Suites
Mercure Grand Hotel U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=156052
Sheikh Essa Tower
Al Hawai Tower
Sheikh Marwan Tower
Towers Rotana Hotel
Golden Sands Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=115665
Saeed Tower 2
Al Rostamani Building 2
B18-Al Rostamani Building 1
Al Mossa Tower 2
Al Moosa Tower 1
Al Safa Tower
Khalid Al Attar Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=103244
Latest Construction - 13th Oct 06
Khalid Al Attar Tower
City Tower 1
City Tower 2
Crown Plaza Towers
Unknown Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=284571
Liberty Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD:http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread...hreadid=115670 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115670)
Saeed Tower 1 + 10F Building
Nikko Hotel Towers (U/C)
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=147961
Park Place U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD:http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread...hreadid=103509 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103509)
Fairmont Hotel Tower
Unknown Tower (Yaqoub Tower) U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301709
Capital Towers U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD:http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread...hreadid=103269 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103269)
Nuami Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=111569
Unnamed Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=216671
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=111562
Bright Start Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=126618
Al Murooj Complex
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=103506
Damas Tower 2 U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=164095
Damas Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD:http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread...hreadid=103240 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103240)
Unknown Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREADhttp://skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/confused.gif?
21st Century Tower
Rose Rotana Suites U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD:http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread...hreadid=104602 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104602)
Al Attar Tower 2 U/C
Al Attar Tower
Al Ghadier Tower
Unknown Tower U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=278126
Dubai World Trade Centre Apartments
World Trade Centre Residence
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=107046
Dubai World Trade Center
Burj Dubai complex:
South Ridge U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=291408
The Residences U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=103259
Burj Dubai U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=251996
Burj Dubai Lake Hotel U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=153955
The Lofts U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=253238
Executive Towers U/C
VIEW OWN THREAD: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=204455
DIFC: Plot Map (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=184220)
Jan 11, 2007, 5:36 PM
GUESS from where it was taken :D
Grant Johnson / Flickr
Jan 11, 2007, 5:43 PM
Wouldn't be on B.D. by any chance? ;)
Jan 11, 2007, 6:20 PM
Look at this site:
Here is being build a complex of 3 combined towers:
Hotel Tower 4B+G+M+54
Residential Tower 4B+G+M+54
Office Tower 4B+G+M+50
but if you think that is great, see what was first planed to be build there, but changed becouse of the new Airport height restrictions applied in the aerea, restricting the maximum height in that plot to just 198 meters:
85F / 340m
75F / 300m
65F / 280m
Jan 11, 2007, 6:32 PM
Yeah, it's a shame they changed it....but I kinda like the new one too!
That eyesore of a building next to it is awful, what where they thinking of? :sly:
Jan 11, 2007, 11:11 PM
Here's a quick assembly of one side of the SZR diagrams available on ssp:
As of Jan. 1 2007:
EtisalatTelecom Bldg. (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=34459) / World Trade Center (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3245) / Emirates Office Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=84) / Emirates Hotel Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=85) / The Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=797) / Capricom Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=27209) / Kendah House (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3043) / Sky Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=34485) / Al Attar Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=6647) / Ghaya Residence (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3143) / Rose Rotana (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=27579) / Oasis Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3113) / 21st Century Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=9639) / Damas Tower 1 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=34672) / Damas Tower 2 (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=39913) / Dunsit Dubai (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=2101)
I added a couple that weren't complete yet (R.R. and D.T.1&2), but were done enough to make an impact on the skyline as of Jan.1 so I went ahead and added them. If you see any in the diagrams that belong on this side of the road, or any corrections/additions, please let me know. I ended with Dunsit because there is a lot of ground between this one and the couple other ones near the BD and it wouldn't look right next to the Dunsit, especially with only one or two to add.
I would like to add them if, somehow, it would look right in the diagram. :shrug:
Jan 12, 2007, 1:40 AM
And facing the other side of the road:
Shangri La Hotel (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=9642) / Chelsea Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=27208) / Sheikh Marwan Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=35747) / Towers Rotana Hotel (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=8806) / Saeed Tower 2 (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=33754) / Zabeel Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12417) / Khalid Al Attar Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12385) / Al Wasl (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?) / Park Place (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=28696) / API Tower (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12567) / Fairmont Hotel (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3433)
Very few diagrams available for this side and several not even listed even though they are completed. :shrug: Maybe more will be made in the future.
Jan 12, 2007, 2:48 PM
Maybe a lazy question but what exactly is SZR, is it that road with skyscrapers on each side of it?
Jan 12, 2007, 6:51 PM
That eyesore of a building next to it is awful, what where they thinking of? :sly:
Jan 12, 2007, 10:28 PM
Finally looking like some density w/ all those gorgeous highrises...
Jan 15, 2007, 3:39 PM
very nice buildings!
Jan 15, 2007, 6:52 PM
Ok Altin, from that angle it doesn't look that bad! I take it back.
Jan 15, 2007, 6:54 PM
Ok Altin, from that angle it doesn't look that bad! I take it back. :tup:
Jan 18, 2007, 4:40 AM
I was wondering on these latest BD100 press shots (Jan. 16) if the Rose Rotana has finally started cladding the upper part? :shrug:
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3064/szr010607vj7.jpg http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7323/szr0106073tu9.jpg http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5282/szr0106072sm2.jpg
Jan 18, 2007, 9:07 AM
Dubai building becoming world's tallest
1/16/2007, 2:32 p.m. PT
By JIM KRANE
The Associated Press
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The Burj Dubai skyscraper under construction here reached its 100th story on Tuesday, nearly two-thirds of the way in its relentless climb to become the world's tallest building.
With 3,000 laborers adding a new floor nearly every three days, the $1 billion spire is days away from surpassing a neighboring skyscraper that is currently the tallest in the Middle East, Dubai-based developer Emaar Properties said.
"The tower is a symbol of the city's pride and a statement of our arrival on the global scene as one of the world-class cities," Emaar chairman Mohammed Ali Alabbar said.
When finished in two years, the silvery steel-and-glass building is expected to rise beyond 2,300 feet and more than 160 floors — dozens of stories taller than the world's current tallest building, the Taipei 101 tower in Taiwan, which measures 1,671 feet and 101 floors.
It will also top the world's tallest freestanding structure, Toronto's CN Tower, which stands 1,815 feet.
The tallest building in the United States, the Sears Tower in Chicago, comes in at 1,451 feet, while the Empire State Building measures 1,250 feet. Before they were destroyed in the Sept. 11 attacks, the World Trade Center towers both topped 1,360 feet. The Freedom Tower being planned for the site will measure 1,776 feet when it's completed in 2011.
Emaar isn't releasing its plans for the final height of the Burj Dubai so it can add more stories if a competing developer mounts a challenge. Predictions on skyscraper Web sites say the cylindrical Burj, which was designed by American architect Adrian Smith, will eventually loom over the city from a height of 2,600 feet or more.
Until the 1960s, the United Arab Emirates was an impoverished desert country whose residents survived through subsistence fishing, farming and small-time trade.
After it became rich from oil, Dubai began building skyscrapers to gain international prestige, not, like Hong Kong and New York, because of a shortage of land. But Dubai's skyscraper binge has jacked up land prices so much that tall buildings are now the only feasible use of coveted building lots in the city's central district.
Dubai has staked its fame on bold engineering, building attention-grabbing projects including manmade resort islands shaped like palm trees, a mall with indoor skiing, and a vast Disney World-style amusement complex that includes plans for an apartment building that rotates on its axis.
Exhibiting a flair for the luxurious that is typical of Dubai, one of the skyscraper's high-profile tenants will be the Armani Hotel, developed in conjunction with Italian fashion designer Giorgio Armani. The spire will also contain private apartments and offices.
Surrounding the dramatic concrete and steel tower is a $20 billion development project that includes several smaller towers set amid winding canals and a gargantuan shopping mall.
All of this development has angered many environmentalists, who say the Emirates is one of the biggest energy consumers and carbon dioxide emitters per capita on the planet. The World Wildlife Fund has asked the country to move toward renewable energy, especially solar power viable in one of the world's sunniest climates.
Jan 21, 2007, 3:01 PM
My Hot Bird satellite reception was not working lately so I went up on the roof to check it. Unfortunately the LNB was toasted so there's nothing I could do (a new one has to be bought) but I did took my camera with me and here's the result:
In a freaky coencidence, Burj Dubai is shadowed by Park Place; you can just see the 3 cranes hovering above the roof of PP.
Jan 28, 2007, 1:43 AM
^ Any chance getting the LNB replaced at night? ;) That second shot is killer! Perfect side also since the back side has the tall ones. It almost has it all. I guess about a month, it will have it all. Got the orig. to post? Thanks for some nice desktops!
Jan 28, 2007, 7:53 AM
Dubai doesn't stop amazing me :runaway:
I must visit this city to see all of this live , must be really impressive.
Is there a structural plan of all this cause I really can't follow all the construction here anymore ? Perhaps a plot map ??
I tried to follow the SSC threads but there are to many of them...
Jan 28, 2007, 1:21 PM
... That second shot is killer! Perfect side also since the back side has the tall ones. It almost has it all. I guess about a month, it will have it all. Got the orig. to post?
Feb 20, 2007, 2:35 AM
May 4, 2007, 7:29 AM
May 4, 2007, 7:47 AM
Jun 27, 2007, 8:22 PM
There is a building under construction near the Emirates Towers in the direction of the desert. Does anyone know what it is? It is located on the other side of the road that borders the Dubai International Financial Centre.
Jul 1, 2007, 10:16 PM
Jul 1, 2007, 10:23 PM
JULY 1st, 2007
ROSE ROTANA HOTEL (74F, 333 m)
THE INDEX (86F, 328 m):
DAMAS Towers (2 x 50F, 200+ m)(Anagsana Hotel & Apartments)
AL ATTAR Tower (76F, 301 m):
AL TAYER TOWER (55F, 248 m:
DUBAI TOWER (45F, 186m):
Jul 2, 2007, 1:35 AM
Altin D, thank you for the response and for all the pictures. Do you have a picture of what Al Tayer Tower is supposed to look like upon completion? This is the first time I have heard of this tower and I want to know more.
Jul 2, 2007, 2:49 PM
^^ AL TAYER
Jul 3, 2007, 1:37 AM
Thank you for the Al Tayer Tower picture.
Another Question: In the first photo of The Index, there is a building under construction in front of it. What is it?
Jul 3, 2007, 11:06 AM
It is the 166 meters tall Liberty House, part of DIFC (Dubai International Financial Center)
Jul 3, 2007, 10:51 PM
Thank you. I appreciate your hard work to get the pictures of the buildings. I also wanted to know how Salik is working for you. Is it crowding up your life or has Dubai become a "deserted" city?
Jul 17, 2007, 1:07 PM
Al Shoala Building wrap:
Jul 21, 2007, 12:49 AM
Looks done to me:
Jul 21, 2007, 2:58 AM
Does anyone know how many available plots there are left on Sheikh Zayed Road between Trade Centre Roundabout and Interchange 1?
If not, how many buildings are currently under construction on that segment?
Jul 21, 2007, 9:26 PM
:previous: I would say around 10 plots are still vacant
Jul 21, 2007, 9:43 PM
That is an ad for the waterfront project called The Lagoons (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=338606) that will include the 4 flame shapped Dubai Towers (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1016/dtfk2.jpg), as well as the hyper futuristic Dubai Opera (http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3020/operahouse29nw.jpg) House (http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7825/operaov6.jpg) by Zaha Hadid.
Jul 22, 2007, 1:53 AM
I would say around 10 plots are still vacant
Thank you AltinD
Jul 22, 2007, 1:26 PM
^^ But even more are under construction ;)
Jul 23, 2007, 6:32 PM
But even more are under construction ;)
How many? I like to keep track of new buildings on Sheikh Zayed Road and I want to know if there are any buildings that I never heard of. Is it possible someone can put up a complete list (or as much as they know) of the buildings under construction? That would be extremely wonderful!!
Jul 25, 2007, 10:10 PM
Sheikh Zayed Road photos by Imre Solt on 25 July 2007
Ahmed Abdul Rahim Al Attar Tower
HOTEL JAL TOWER DUBAI
AL ROSTAMANI MAZE TOWER
ETISALAT TOWER 2
MARRIOTT HOTEL @ AL YAQUOB TOWER
Jul 27, 2007, 8:31 PM
FOUR POINTS SHERATON HOTEL by Imre Solt on 27 July 2007
Jul 27, 2007, 8:36 PM
AL TAYER TOWER by Imre Solt on 27 July 2007
Jul 27, 2007, 8:42 PM
Jul 27, 2007, 8:43 PM
DUBAI TOWER on 27 July 2007 by Imre Solt
Jul 27, 2007, 8:50 PM
ANGSANA HOTEL & SUITES (also known as DAMAS TOWERS) on 27 July 2007 by Imre Solt
KHALID AL ATTAR TOWER by Imre Solt on 27 July 2007
Aug 9, 2007, 10:10 PM
Damas Tower (also known as Angsana Hotel & Suites 1 and 2) on 9 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 4:07 AM
Al Tayer Tower, Falcon Tower, Dubai Tower, Nuaimi Tower, and Executive Towers (in background) on 19 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Executive Towers on 19 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 4:37 AM
HHHR Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 4:42 AM
Rose Rotana Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 4:46 AM
Al Yaquob Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 4:58 AM
Ahmed Abdul Rahim Al Attar Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 5:42 AM
Khalid Al Attar Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 5:49 AM
Damas Towers on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 5:55 AM
Maze Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 6:06 AM
Acico Office Tower and Nikko Hotel Dubai on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 6:08 AM
Sama Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 6:17 AM
Latifa Tower on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Burj Salam on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Aug 25, 2007, 6:24 AM
Four Points by Sheraton Sheikh Zayed Road on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
World Trade Centre Residence on 24 August 2007 by Imre Solt
Oct 16, 2007, 5:32 AM
HHHR Tower on 15 October 2007 by Imre Solt
Oct 16, 2007, 5:40 AM
Ahmed Abdul Rahim Al Attar Tower on 15 October 2007 by Imre Solt
Although the façade is barely visible, so far it looks very nice.
Oct 16, 2007, 5:54 AM
Al Yaquob Tower on 15 October 2007 by Imre Solt
Oct 16, 2007, 6:04 AM
Sama Tower on 15 October 2007 by Imre Solt
Acico Office Tower and Nikko Hotel Dubai on 15 October 2007 by Imre Solt
Oct 16, 2007, 6:10 AM
Al Rostamani Maze Tower (or just Maze Tower) on 15 October 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 7:28 PM
Khalid Al Attar Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 7:49 PM
Ahmed Abdul Rahim Al Attar Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 8:07 PM
Al Yaquob Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 8:41 PM
HHHR Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Burj Al Salam on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 9:07 PM
World Trade Centre Residence on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 9:30 PM
Sama Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Acico Office Tower and Nikko Hotel Dubai on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 9:35 PM
Damas Towers on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 9:40 PM
Maze Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 9:49 PM
Ahmed Mir Hashem Ahmed Khoory Tower (formerly Shaikh Ahmed Tower) on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 10:01 PM
Al Tayer Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Dubai Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Al Tayer Tower, Falcon Tower, and Dubai Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 3, 2007, 10:06 PM
Adnan Saffarini Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Nov 4, 2007, 8:18 PM
Rolex Tower on 02 November 2007 by Imre Solt
Jan 2, 2008, 7:23 AM
Does anyone have any updated pics of the intersection (I forget the number) by Dusit Hotel?
Jan 2, 2008, 7:31 PM
Are you talking about the interchange of Sheikh Zayed Road and Doha Street?
These images were taken by Imre Solt when he visited the Burj Dubai on 27 November 2007. They were taken from the 76th floor:
Jan 10, 2008, 3:49 PM
SHEIKH ZAYED ROAD
Jan 18, 2009, 1:25 AM
January 17th, 2009
Feb 9, 2010, 12:15 PM
Does anyone have any updated pics of the intersection (I forget the number) by Dusit Hotel?Same question again about the interchange of Sheikh Zayed Road and Doha Street two years on....
Feb 12, 2010, 9:53 PM
Here are some images taken by Imre in late November 2009. I was unable to find more recent photos (but I am sure they are out there).
Oct 17, 2010, 3:17 AM
Sounds like a mess. The article says there's a 40% office vacancy rate there. Silly Dubai. :no:
Dubai's Worst Office Buildings Will Be Empty Forever: CBRE
Some Dubai office buildings are so ill-conceived and poorly located that they will never be occupied, while others may command no more than the cost of maintenance, according to CB Richard Ellis Group Inc.
“Some buildings will be permanently vacant and will never be let because they are wrongly located, they are of poor quality or have the wrong legal structure in place,” Nicholas Maclean, Middle East managing director for the U.S. property broker, said in an interview.
Full article - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-13/dubai-s-least-attractive-office-buildings-will-be-empty-forever-cbre-says.html
Oct 21, 2010, 10:25 AM
so what, as long as they get built. I wish Calgary was full of super-talls, occupied or not. jeez i am starting to think some of the formers who suposidly love skyscrapers actuly hate tall skyscrapers. how ironic is that.:shrug:
Oct 21, 2010, 10:47 PM
^ Dumbest post ever.
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