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micheal
Dec 6, 2011, 2:12 AM
Its gonna be a nice stadium for $190 mil! I have to give credit to Winnipeg.
trueviking
Dec 6, 2011, 4:48 AM
I think it would look a lot cleaner if they were just straight - curved canopies. Not those wavy things planned.......if that makes any sense.
totally.....the wavy roof is so ray wanderful....could have been so elegant.
that roof is corrugated tin....its gonna look cheap as all hell.
maybe he was intentionally trying to look like he wasnt copying the stadium roof in athens.
http://www.heinz5700.com/athens2004/ath014.jpg
http://www.heinz5700.com/athens2004/ath014.jpg
trueviking
Dec 6, 2011, 4:51 AM
there are going to be a lot of people complaining about having to sit in the end zones when it comes time to actually pick seats and they realize that there are substantially fewer seats between the lines......sitting in the end zone is a social stigma in winnipeg and this design has a whole lot more end zone seats.
i have talked to a lot of people who sit in my section (S)...and they all say no way are they sitting in the end zone...the only option is to double the price of your ticket price if you you want sit in the same area on the field...if you can even get seats there.
Great video!!
One of the commenters pointed out that "Ti-Cats" may have been written on one of the stepped steel supports in the video. Upon closer observation, it did.
Since these guys are from Hamilton, I guess they wanted to have a little "fun."
It kind of makes you think about who is building our new stadium, and HOW they're building it.
I have it on good authority that the grafitti (Ti-Cats) has been removed from the steel supports in the east upper deck. Is a great video though. Guys just having some fun I guess. :)
The Jabroni
Dec 7, 2011, 11:44 PM
I have it on good authority that the grafitti (Ti-Cats) has been removed from the steel supports in the east upper deck. Is a great video though. Guys just having some fun I guess. :)
I take that you are somewhat involve with this project. At least this has been addressed.
You guys are doing a good job by the way. :tup:
Also, welcome to the forums! :D
SmileyBoy
Dec 9, 2011, 1:55 AM
there are going to be a lot of people complaining about having to sit in the end zones when it comes time to actually pick seats and they realize that there are substantially fewer seats between the lines......sitting in the end zone is a social stigma in winnipeg and this design has a whole lot more end zone seats.
i have talked to a lot of people who sit in my section (S)...and they all say no way are they sitting in the end zone...the only option is to double the price of your ticket price if you you want sit in the same area on the field...if you can even get seats there.
I don't know why sitting in the endzones should be considered such a stigma. There are 6,500 or so people who sit in the endzones of NDSU football games every Saturday, and those people don't seem to mind it. A lot of people prefer the endzone seats at the Fargodome for example, because they can see the action go away and near them.
Maybe it has to do with the 20-yard Canadian endzones. Maybe the CFL should usk the endzone depth down to 15 yards for a better fan experience.
:banana:I don't know why sitting in the endzones should be considered such a stigma. There are 6,500 or so people who sit in the endzones of NDSU football games every Saturday, and those people don't seem to mind it. A lot of people prefer the endzone seats at the Fargodome for example, because they can see the action go away and near them.
Maybe it has to do with the 20-yard Canadian endzones. Maybe the CFL should usk the endzone depth down to 15 yards for a better fan experience.
Not too sure that there's a stigma to sit in the end zone, other than the fact that they're the cheapest seats - I think it has more to do with the view. I've had season tickets in the end zone for years, and my group loves it. Feels more rowdy and loud on those old benches (other than section S). The problem with the endzones in the new stadium is that they aren't raised like the old endzone - it's too low to the field, which is going to make for bad angles to view the game from (due to depth). If you're in row 5 in the new endzone, you won't be able to tell if a guy ran for 5 yards or 20 yards. As it is, in the endzone now, sometimes you can only tell it's a first down because of the cheers of the East/West stands...
Tower Crane
Dec 9, 2011, 6:51 PM
Our firm did the grass field replacement to Field Turf just prior to this past season. It takes 2 months to do a proper job. So ther eyou have it, you need 8 weeks for a full and proper field turf installation, this includes all the required underground drainage and compacted ash base, Field Turf stitched together, etc.
^ I honestly think at the very least the pre-season games of the 2012 season will still be played at CanadInns Stadium.
I have heard rumblings that this project is behind schedule, and two months to install turf over (what should be) frost free clay, means the field will be ready in July at the earliest...
rypinion
Dec 9, 2011, 9:41 PM
^ I honestly think at the very least the pre-season games of the 2012 season will still be played at CanadInns Stadium.
I have heard rumblings that this project is behind schedule, and two months to install turf over (what should be) frost free clay, means the field will be ready in July at the earliest...
Instead of having a preseason game at CanadInns perhaps they'd just have two away preseason games, or have one in Brandon or something.
Instead of having a preseason game at CanadInns perhaps they'd just have two away preseason games, or have one in Brandon or something.
or trade it with hamiltons 2013 game
Jets4Life
Dec 12, 2011, 12:05 AM
How is the new Stadium coming along. Not sure if this has been answered, but is there any website that shows a live cam of the construction?
SKYSTHELIMIT
Dec 12, 2011, 1:47 AM
How is the new Stadium coming along. Not sure if this has been answered, but is there any website that shows a live cam of the construction?
Here ya go amigo.
http://www.bluebombers.com/page/construction-webcam
I am certainly no expert but man, if that webcam is live, I can't see how the new stadium will be anywhere near completion in 6 months. Here's to hoping for a mild winter for you guys.
I agree with some posters that sitting in the endzone is certainly not ideal. I have season tix for the riders on the 40 but once a year, I buy a couple tickets and sit in the endzone with my son. It's big on fun but you can't see sh!t. Mind you, you guys are gonna have some pretty big replay screens so there shouldn't be any issues.
Good luck with your classy new digs!
trebor204
Dec 14, 2011, 12:42 PM
The Blue Bombers have called a news conference today (Wednesday 12:30pm), it is believed to be related for the naming rights of the new stadium.
Any guesses?
yopaul
Dec 14, 2011, 3:38 PM
pleeeeeeeeeeease not Canad!
Draftsman
Dec 14, 2011, 4:41 PM
The Blue Bombers have called a news conference today (Wednesday 12:30pm), it is believed to be related for the naming rights of the new stadium.
Any guesses?
Well, how about Nutty Club or Old Dutch? :D
Seriously, congrats on getting a new stadium. I hear it is going to be great!
art deco
Dec 14, 2011, 5:30 PM
Any guesses?
Hooters?
trebor204
Dec 14, 2011, 5:33 PM
Corus Field?
khabibulin
Dec 14, 2011, 5:50 PM
Well......Banks seem to all be reporting huge profits again this year so......
Scotia...
RBC.....
TD.......
CIBC.......
Royal..........
yopaul
Dec 14, 2011, 5:56 PM
Rogers seems to be quite aggressive with naming rights these days...
No matter what company I'd like to see 'Field' attached to the building as opposed to 'Stadium' or god forbid, 'Centre'
trebor204
Dec 14, 2011, 6:35 PM
NEW NAME:
Investors Group Field
HomeInMyShoes
Dec 14, 2011, 6:42 PM
^Uninspiring, but not surprising.
Some of the quotes over on the Winnipeg Free Press site are hilarious. I really liked the "The Real Canadian Superstore Super Medium Capacity Single Season Fair Weather Multi-Use Sports Facility of Central Canada" concept.
Biff
Dec 14, 2011, 6:44 PM
The new name instantly reminded me of Invesco Field in Denver........before it was renamed.
trebor204
Dec 14, 2011, 6:47 PM
The Stadium Logo is on the main Blue Bomber Website
HomeInMyShoes
Dec 14, 2011, 6:50 PM
Actually, the logo looks pretty spiffy.
Riverman
Dec 14, 2011, 7:28 PM
I think it's OK, good company, locally headquartered, part of one of the largest Canadian corps.
Boreal
Dec 14, 2011, 8:28 PM
Good stuff! I like IG Field. A notable step up from Canad Inns, in my opinion.
roccerfeller
Dec 14, 2011, 10:08 PM
I like it. Agree with riverman.
^Uninspiring, but not surprising.
Some of the quotes over on the Winnipeg Free Press site are hilarious. I really liked the "The Real Canadian Superstore Super Medium Capacity Single Season Fair Weather Multi-Use Sports Facility of Central Canada" concept.
And this is hilarious
chrisallard5454
Dec 15, 2011, 4:11 PM
Posted some stats on the Canada Stadium Page thought it was pretty cool. For some reason the picture isn't working for me. Maybe someone can make it work.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6516300453_8ac3d43e21_b.jpg
NM Made it work.
yopaul
Dec 18, 2011, 12:52 AM
As I watch the Jets game, am thankful "Bulk Barn Field' didn't come out on top...
Jets4Life
Dec 18, 2011, 1:06 AM
Is the stadium going to be ready on time for the opening of the 2012 season?
armorand93
Dec 18, 2011, 9:19 AM
As I watch the Jets game, am thankful "Bulk Barn Field' didn't come out on top...
Westfair Field would have a nice ring
SKYSTHELIMIT
Dec 18, 2011, 4:04 PM
Is the stadium going to be ready on time for the opening of the 2012 season?
So far they are stating yes, a plan B is in place though with the league to start a few games on the road if necessary.
I was down by the stadium on Friday and it is marching along quite nicely.
rypinion
Dec 22, 2011, 3:54 PM
New photos from this week are on the Bomber website:
http://www.bluebombers.com/photo_gallery/gallery/id/5127
HomeInMyShoes
Dec 22, 2011, 4:01 PM
It's looking pretty awesome.
I have a hard time believing they will be ready for July though. That's only sevenish months away and there's a lot of finishing work to go and winter hasn't even really hit Canada yet.
rypinion
Dec 22, 2011, 4:34 PM
It's looking pretty awesome.
I have a hard time believing they will be ready for July though. That's only sevenish months away and there's a lot of finishing work to go and winter hasn't even really hit Canada yet.
If I recall correctly, the CEO was saying this week that they hope to have it all enclosed within a few weeks so that they can go full steam ahead on the finishing of the interior, so hopefully that's a good sign.
HomeInMyShoes
Dec 22, 2011, 4:44 PM
^I looked back through the construction photos and they've made some crazy progree since May. I think I remember playing intramural soccer on the ground where the stadium is.
art deco
Dec 22, 2011, 8:17 PM
They will not be ready for exhibition games and may not be ready for regular season. The problem will not be completion of the stands it will be completion of the playing surface.
Jets4Life
Dec 23, 2011, 1:41 AM
^I looked back through the construction photos and they've made some crazy progree since May. I think I remember playing intramural soccer on the ground where the stadium is.
I played intramural soccer at that spot too!
rrskylar
Jan 8, 2012, 6:56 PM
Anyone here think the new stadium will be ready any time before August?
trueviking
Jan 8, 2012, 7:43 PM
i asked the structural engineer for the project and he said they still believe that they are 10% ahead of schedule....he said that it took threatening personal phone calls from the mayor and premier to one of the main suppliers to keep it on track.
doesnt look like it to me, but he would know...they've been lucky with weather thats for sure.
rrskylar
Jan 8, 2012, 9:41 PM
i asked the structural engineer for the project and he said they still believe that they are 10% ahead of schedule....he said that it took threatening personal phone calls from the mayor and premier to one of the main suppliers to keep it on track.
doesnt look like it to me, but he would know...they've been lucky with weather thats for sure.
My tip that the completion date likely won't be June came from someone actively involved in the project as well.;)
My tip that the completion date likely won't be June came from someone actively involved in the project as well.;)
And What is this persons position?
trebor204
Jan 9, 2012, 12:10 AM
I heard sometime this week, the Bombers Exective should get a status update of the new stadium.
rrskylar
Jan 9, 2012, 4:21 AM
And What is this persons position?
He sucks out the porta potties with a shop vac.;)
Actually his position is a bit above that, what do you want a name?:haha:
HomeInMyShoes
Jan 9, 2012, 10:32 AM
^Lol. Actually the lower you are, the more probable that your story as to the actual progress is more accurate. :)
rrskylar
Jan 10, 2012, 5:03 AM
There are some updated photos on the Blue Bomber site.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize they have a relatively short time left to complete the structure of the stadium utilizing the field area for storage, cranes etc. before field preparation has to begin, I understand that it takes about 8-9 weeks to lay the base and install an artificial playing surface.
If the first home game is in early July the field prep would need to commence in early May.
Jets4Life
Jan 11, 2012, 11:30 AM
There are some updated photos on the Blue Bomber site.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize they have a relatively short time left to complete the structure of the stadium utilizing the field area for storage, cranes etc. before field preparation has to begin, I understand that it takes about 8-9 weeks to lay the base and install an artificial playing surface.
If the first home game is in early July the field prep would need to commence in early May.
I cannot wait until the new Stadium is complete. I will be back for a couple of weeks in August and plan on attending a game or two.
art deco
Jan 11, 2012, 9:23 PM
imo the structure wouldn't be the biggest issue to overcome as long as seats and life safety is covered they might be able to get interim occupancy. I would think the turf prep and installation of the turf will likely be what takes them past June.
drew
Jan 11, 2012, 9:38 PM
^ and interior finishes... damn architects always holding things up...
art deco
Jan 12, 2012, 3:08 PM
^ and interior finishes... damn architects always holding things up...
Damn Architects Indeed! :)
I wonder if they'll do like they did in Montreal a couple years back and just have the Bombers play their first few games on the road. Mind you, there's still the preseason home game to figure out. Those are always in June.
art deco
Jan 13, 2012, 1:32 PM
I wonder if they'll do like they did in Montreal a couple years back and just have the Bombers play their first few games on the road. Mind you, there's still the preseason home game to figure out. Those are always in June.
couldn't they still play at canadinns stadium for preseason games or until the new stadium is ready?
Sure, but didn't they make a big deal about the 'last game ever' at CanadInns last year? That would be sorta anticlimatic.
Chadillaccc
Jan 13, 2012, 8:22 PM
Any new pics? The last ones posted are from Oct. 30.
chrisallard5454
Jan 13, 2012, 8:38 PM
Any new pics? The last ones posted are from Oct. 30.
Go to the blue bomber website. They update them every week.
rypinion
Jan 13, 2012, 8:40 PM
Any new pics? The last ones posted are from Oct. 30.
All photos:
http://www.bluebombers.com/page/new-stadium-construction-photos_144469
New ones this week are here:
http://www.bluebombers.com/photo_gallery/gallery/id/5151
trebor204
Jan 13, 2012, 9:10 PM
Just took some (Friday Jan 13th)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/trebor204/IMG_7886.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/trebor204/IMG_6284.jpg
Chadillaccc
Jan 13, 2012, 9:58 PM
Very cool, love the wide field shot :)
Kinguni
Jan 14, 2012, 2:55 AM
Go see it in person. Quite awesome up close.
chrisallard5454
Jan 14, 2012, 3:15 AM
How is it in size comparison to Canad Inns?
Tower Crane
Jan 19, 2012, 2:14 PM
If someone or anybody believes this thing is 10 percent ahead of schedule than I have some swamp land to sell you. I had my good friends at a large US contractors office that have built dozens of professional stadiums look at the progress photos and they were in agreement that it will not be done for June.
I love this stadium but I will not drink the hey it will be done Kool Aid. Not a chance, it's to complex of a project and there is not enough time left.
Remember, you heard it here first when later they start telling everyone the scheduling truth!
Bdog
Jan 19, 2012, 4:38 PM
If someone or anybody believes this thing is 10 percent ahead of schedule than I have some swamp land to sell you. I had my good friends at a large US contractors office that have built dozens of professional stadiums look at the progress photos and they were in agreement that it will not be done for June.
I love this stadium but I will not drink the hey it will be done Kool Aid. Not a chance, it's to complex of a project and there is not enough time left.
Remember, you heard it here first when later they start telling everyone the scheduling truth!
Heard it here first? You're about the 5th person to say this in the last few months.
osmo
Jan 20, 2012, 11:29 PM
I am a stadium buff and just from observing those pics I can say there is no way in hell that thing will be done by August. The concrete seating levels take the longest time to complete, those should be almost done if Winnipeg is to see it open in that time frame.
For a comparison the new Florida Marlins Ballpark was at this stage in the summer/Fall of 2010!... and is only now on the final legs of its construction. The levels pour is the most tedious part and my guess won't be done till close to the middle of May. I would say a September/October opening is more realistic unless they open the thing with work still to be completed like finishing the roof, etc.
rypinion
Jan 21, 2012, 2:23 AM
I am a stadium buff and just from observing those pics I can say there is no way in hell that thing will be done by August. The concrete seating levels take the longest time to complete, those should be almost done if Winnipeg is to see it open in that time frame.
For a comparison the new Florida Marlins Ballpark was at this stage in the summer/Fall of 2010!... and is only now on the final legs of its construction. The levels pour is the most tedious part and my guess won't be done till close to the middle of May. I would say a September/October opening is more realistic unless they open the thing with work still to be completed like finishing the roof, etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the "concrete seating levels" preformed and dropped into place? Like so:
http://adams.uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wpg/images/general/2011/11/13204393274207.jpg
Source: http://www.bluebombers.com/photo_gallery/gallery/id/4761
http://adams.uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wpg/images/general/2011/11/13215647431903.jpg
Source: http://www.bluebombers.com/photo_gallery/gallery/id/4985
Biff
Jan 21, 2012, 4:29 AM
The upper bowl is precast. The lower bowl is cast in place.
rrskylar
Jan 21, 2012, 6:31 PM
It's pretty safe to say that the home owners and residents around the U of M campus will have one more quiet summer.;)
J-MAN
Jan 22, 2012, 3:33 AM
http://adams.uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wpg/images/general/2011/12/13238909122833.jpg
just gotta say it looks awsome!
The Jabroni
Jan 22, 2012, 6:43 PM
I'm sure there will be nicknames for this field already, based on it's official name.
Iggy Field
Egg Field
Swagger Field
Yeah, they're pretty lame, but don't be surprise if you guys hear any derivatives of these nicknames over the next several years.
thurmas
Jan 22, 2012, 8:33 PM
The House that Buck built?
Tower Crane
Jan 25, 2012, 4:46 AM
How about:
The stadium that will have roof structure problems due to a poor design
Or
Overbudget Bowl
How about:
The stadium that will have roof structure problems due to a poor design
Or
Overbudget Bowl
It may have come in over budget, but it's still the most cost-efficient stadium per seat ever constructed in north america(adjusted for inflation of course).
trueviking
Jan 25, 2012, 5:23 AM
It may have come in over budget, but it's still the most cost-efficient stadium per seat ever constructed in north america(adjusted for inflation of course).
they tried to spin that crap but its not even close to being the most cost efficient stadium in north america.....there are numerous 40 000 seat college stadiums that were half the price....
BMO in toronto was way way less per seat....22000 seats costing $62m....thats 2/3 the seats at 1/3 the cost.
gophers stadium in minneapolis cost $280m seating 52000.....almost the exact same as the bombers cost per seat.....and that stadium is a beauty http://stadium.gophersports.com/
or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAU_Stadium
google it...you will find dozens of cheaper stadiums in north america.
in fact it is even comparable per seat to some NFL venues.
this is not a cheap stadium.
they tried to spin that crap but its not even close to being the most cost efficient stadium in north america.....there are numerous 40 000 seat college stadiums that were half the price....
BMO in toronto was way way less per seat....22000 seats costing $62m....thats 2/3 the seats at 1/3 the cost.
gophers stadium in minneapolis cost $280m seating 52000.....almost the exact same as the bombers cost per seat.....and that stadium is a beauty http://stadium.gophersports.com/
or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAU_Stadium
google it...you will find dozens of cheaper stadiums in north america.
in fact it is even comparable per seat to some NFL venues.
this is not a cheap stadium.
My mistake I guess, but I remember reading somthing in the FP about it.
trueviking
Jan 25, 2012, 6:31 AM
^no, not your mistake at all.....the proponents of the stadium tried to flog that piece of misinformation.
where is ol' blackroddy when you need him....
Biff
Jan 25, 2012, 2:59 PM
The east side arch should start installation in the next couple of weeks. It will be approx 220 ft from field level.
Jets4Life
Jan 25, 2012, 11:56 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard once that Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton may have been the most cost-effective stadium built in Canada. It was $20.9 million to build ($68.4 million adjusted to inflation).
rrskylar
Jan 26, 2012, 3:49 AM
Caught the tail end of a news story on CTV Winnipeg, something about delays on the stadium due to problems with canopy support installation.
Tower Crane
Jan 26, 2012, 4:15 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard once that Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton may have been the most cost-effective stadium built in Canada. It was $20.9 million to build ($68.4 million adjusted to inflation).
Yes that amount is correct. Now that's cost effective.
Tower Crane
Jan 26, 2012, 4:20 AM
Caught the tail end of a news story on CTV Winnipeg, something about delays on the stadium due to problems with canopy support installation.
Like I said a few posts back, yes I know it looks awesome....I agree. Now from the construction / engineering side of things....just look at the renderings, I believe as shown the roof system will have many problems. It does not appear to have structural integrity as the way every connects together does not appear to provide sufficient support.
Houston.....I think we have a problem!
Jets4Life
Jan 26, 2012, 5:32 AM
Like I said a few posts back, yes I know it looks awesome....I agree. Now from the construction / engineering side of things....just look at the renderings, I believe as shown the roof system will have many problems. It does not appear to have structural integrity as the way every connects together does not appear to provide sufficient support.
Houston.....I think we have a problem!
Didn't Crestwin design the Stadium?
rrskylar
Jan 27, 2012, 5:28 PM
Bombers have no plans to play at old stadium
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Bombers-have-no-plans-to-play-old-stadium-138204494.html
Don't think so.
Lucky for them this is a leapyear:haha: at least there's one extra day to work with.
The preseason game is a bit of a problem. I'm wondering if they're looking at having the Bomber's preseason home game in Atlantic Canada or something like that.
Tower Crane
Jan 27, 2012, 6:22 PM
i asked the structural engineer for the project and he said they still believe that they are 10% ahead of schedule....he said that it took threatening personal phone calls from the mayor and premier to one of the main suppliers to keep it on track.
doesnt look like it to me, but he would know...they've been lucky with weather thats for sure.
Like I've always said don't ask a structural engineer about construction schedules. This duffus obviously doesn't really know what's going on. He thought there ahead of schedule.
The people will never question me again.
chrisallard5454
Jan 27, 2012, 6:24 PM
I have no problem with that. It allows them out east to experience the CFL. In the grand scheme of things 2 weeks off isn't bad. Even if it isn't going to be finished until halfway through the season, this doesn't bother me. I will hopefully have 40 or more years to enjoy this building, what is half a season?
The Jabroni
Jan 27, 2012, 6:35 PM
I have no problem with that. It allows them out east to experience the CFL. In the grand scheme of things 2 weeks off isn't bad. Even if it isn't going to be finished until halfway through the season, this doesn't bother me. I will hopefully have 40 or more years to enjoy this building, what is half a season?
9 weeks. :D
But yes, 2 weeks really isn't that bad.
Canopy installation is tricky business. I really don't blame them having to delay it because these sorts of projects of their size takes time. I guess the classic saying goes "they didn't build Rome in a day" or something like that. :shrug:
rrskylar
Jan 27, 2012, 7:02 PM
Assuming the stadium is ready to use in early July and that the playing surface takes roughly 2 months to install they have only 3 months left to complete the structure of the stadium, west side canopy, the west side upper seating pre-cast still has to be added as does all the forming and cement work for the seating in the lower bowl.
To say this will be ready on time is pretty optimistic.
trebor204
Jan 27, 2012, 9:13 PM
Latest Photos from Friday Jan 27
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/trebor204/IMG_7890.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/trebor204/IMG_7889.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/trebor204/IMG_6293.jpg
Jets4Life
Jan 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
I never liked the idea of having a canopy shielding spectators from the elements. Just by viewing the stadium plans, it looks like the foundation will have trouble withstanding the Manitoba winds. I'm no engineer, but that's just my observation.
Chadillaccc
Jan 27, 2012, 11:52 PM
I just wish they built the damn thing ANYWHERE even remotely close to downtown. How are these residential streets supposed to handle the traffic of tens of thousands of people coming to watch games?
Tower Crane
Jan 28, 2012, 2:00 AM
Having constructed projects of similar value and now having seen the latest photos I can reconfirm and edit my earlier posts. This project is months.....I repeat months behind where it needs to be for a June completion.
This is not a simple box, this project has major complex components still to construct, I have viewed the existing status and prepared my own construction schedule of the remaining scopes of work. I project a end of August / first half of September completion.
dpenner
Jan 28, 2012, 6:59 AM
I never liked the idea of having a canopy shielding spectators from the elements. Just by viewing the stadium plans, it looks like the foundation will have trouble withstanding the Manitoba winds. I'm no engineer, but that's just my observation.
not a structural engineer myself but what about large winter snow falls, will it be able to support that weight combined with winds, I'm sure it has been worked out but man does that look unstable
J-MAN
Jan 28, 2012, 7:43 AM
I just wish they built the damn thing ANYWHERE even remotely close to downtown. How are these residential streets supposed to handle the traffic of tens of thousands of people coming to watch games?
Not to mention when I live in the Northern Winnipeg area it's going to take me a long time to get all the way to the extreme southern area of the city. I would much rather they have built it downtown...
trueviking
Jan 28, 2012, 7:48 AM
Didn't Crestwin design the Stadium?
creswin is a developer...the stadium was designed by ray wan...or at least his chinese outsourced firm. Ray wan is a firm of about 6 people....they have enough work to employ a 50 person firm...the real design happened in china.
i agree that it looks nowhere near close to being ready, but construction schedules are usually pretty accurate....if they are off, they are likely not wildly off....either that or they are lying, but i don't see the benefit of doing that...they know by now when it will be complete.
i wouldn't worry about the structural integrity of the roof...the engineers are crosier kilgour...they are the best engineers in this province and that roof aint going anywhere.
ILYR
Jan 28, 2012, 12:01 PM
Well I do not claim to be a construction expert, but as an experiment I went onto the Blue Bomber site and compared photos from August 1st 2011 with the most recent ones.
August 1st 2011: http://www.bluebombers.com/photo_gallery/gallery/id/3535
January 27th 2012: http://www.bluebombers.com/photo_gallery/gallery/id/5161
As you can see from the photos they were still working on the foundation and the first pieces of steel had just be put up. Now I know that looking back 6 months does not reflect what will happen in the next six months, but it is quite dramatic how much has actually been done. It is also evident from the pictures posted yesterday that the interior (electrical, plumbing) is well on its way in at least the east stands. One can also argue that the west stands will rise faster than the east as the crews have worked out most of the problems.
Perhaps we have all become a bit jaded with the construction delays of the Hydro building, Airport terminal, and CMHR that the idea of a structure being built roughly on schedule is just not possible. :cheers:
rrskylar
Jan 28, 2012, 4:37 PM
Remember it was SSP Winnipeg Thread that brought you this first, trumped the Free Press by months.
Delay brings stadium scramble
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/delay-brings-stadium-scramble-138251604.html
chrisallard5454
Jan 28, 2012, 6:10 PM
IF it is as far behind as they say, I don't understand why they don't consult the fans on this sort of thing. Normally fan consultation would come up with sporadic results, but I can bet that the vast majority of fans would be willing to watch a couple of games in the CanadInns Stadium. It isn't as if we don't like our old home. I for one wouldn't mind watching a couple more at the old site, if it meant seeing a final product. Seeing a half finished stadium would be completely anti-climatic.
rypinion
Jan 28, 2012, 7:02 PM
Do people have to change their summer plans based on the completion date of the stadium, or something? Why do people get so bent out of shape about things?
Is it just an deep seated, unwavering need to always blame someone about something?
It's done when it's done, hopefully for some games early in July. I don't anticipate cancelling my season tickets or moving out of the province if it isn't until August though.
chrisallard5454
Jan 28, 2012, 7:04 PM
I personally do not care if it is delayed, or if we have to miss a few games, or if the Bombers have a losing season because of the away games. I will still love them. I do have a problem with them forcing us to sit in a half finished stadium because of their pride though.
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