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Kilgore Trout
Jan 15, 2007, 4:09 PM
i'm not a big fan of bollywood movies, but it's interesting to see bollywood becoming mainstream in canada. in toronto, there are usually several bollywood flicks showing at any given time, often at chain multiplexes like square one in mississauga.

even in montreal, the AMC forum downtown programs new bollywood films every week.

Now Indian cinema eyes Canada

Neelam Raaj
Times of India

NEW DELHI: After a record-breaking year at the US box office with seven films grossing over $2 million, Bollywood is now wowing the Canadian market. Thursday saw Toronto host the world premiere of Mani Ratnam's Guru, a first for a mainstream Hindi film.

The $100,000 gala had fans waiting in the cold for hours to see Ash and Abhishek's star turn and forking out $500 for a front-row ticket.

It may be money well spent for the movie's Canadian distributor Roger Nair Productions which is hoping the film will double revenues and set a benchmark for the future.

"In two years, the Canadian market for Bollywood films will be as big as UK's," predicts Roger Nair. Canada's huge South Asian population certainly is a captive market.

According to immigration trends, South Asians will be the country's dominant visible ethnic group by 2017, with a projected 1.8 million South Asian population.

Bollywood world premiere wows Toronto fans

JOHN MCKAY
The Globe and Mail

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TORONTO — Forget Brangelina. Or TomKat.

When it comes to Bollywood cinema, no screen couple is hotter than Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai. And Toronto's South Asian community was out in force Thursday evening for the world premiere of Guru, the pair's latest film.

“Absolutely gorgeous. Both of them. Just stunning!” Arpana Vora declared with glee moments after the darling duo was whisked along the red carpet and into the screening.

“They're the Brad Pitt and Angelina [Jolie] of the Indian community!”

Rai, who wore a white sari, and Bachchan, who donned a black suit and headband, were several hours late for the gala because of flight schedules and didn't stop for questions.

The delay only served to build momentum at the historic Elgin Theatre, where police estimated 1,200 fans had been standing and screaming on the sidewalk behind barriers for up to six hours.

Another 1,200 or so filmgoers — some clad in vibrant Indian saris, ghagra cholis and salwar kameezes — were inside, along with international media outlets, many from India.

“We couldn't see her but we saw him and ... he looked so amazing!” said one fan who was amongst the dozens of ticket holders clogging theatre hallways and stairwells hoping to catch a glimpse.

“He is so sexy. Sexy man!” she screamed.

The producers chose Toronto for the premiere after an impressive response to another Bollywood film, Never Say Goodbye, at the Toronto International Film Festival in September. The gala crowd far outnumbered that for Brad Pitt's film Babel.

“The South Asian community is very important to our city and so is the film industry. Bollywood brings them together,” said Mayor David Miller as he walked into the screening.

Miller also stopped to chat and rally up the giddy fans and stated with a smile, “I've never seen anything like the adulation tonight.”

Producer Bobby Bedi ( Bandit Queen, Fire) said at the premiere he chose Toronto for his premiere because it “by far is one most cosmopolitan cities in the world.”

Guru is loosely based on the life of a young man who rose from poverty in a small Indian village in the 1950s to defy the odds and become a major textile merchant. In the film version, the character of Gurukant Desai (Bachchan) employs unethical methods to achieve his materialistic goals but does what he has to do to crack a market firmly controlled by the rich and privileged.

Rai — who has been described as giving Halle Berry strong competition for the unofficial title of most beautiful woman in the world — plays his wife Sujatha.

“She was stunning. Stunning. Very beautiful,” said Adesh Vora after he caught a glimpse of Rai. Looking at his wife though, he hesitated to concur that Rai is the most beautiful woman on Earth.

“My wife is number one,” he said.

[b]Bollywood set to take TO by storm
Globe and Mail Update

Toronto — Canada's most populous city is bonkers for Bollywood this week as stars from India's hugely popular film industry are set to arrive for the landmark world premiere of Guru.

It's rare for such events to take place outside of India, and the premiere has many in the city's South Asian community buzzing with anticipation. Some fans have dished out hundreds of dollars for a ticket to Thursday's red-carpet gala screening.

“I'm really excited! I'm a great fan,” said Subakar Thayalachelvam, co-owner of the Bollywood DVD Center in Toronto, adding that he has to be out of town Thursday.

“I've actually purchased a ($250) ticket but then I gave it away because I couldn't go.”

Several Toronto-based fans on the Internet forum bollywood.meetup.com also said they were thrilled about the soiree.

“Oh this is so exciting!” wrote a poster with the alias “Cecilia.”

“I think I will try to go there after work with my camera of course and try my luck, although who knows how I will make it past the hordes who are expected to show up.”

Directed by Mani Ratnam, Guru is a rags-to-riches love story starring Bollywood superstar Abhishek Bachchan as a man who strives to climb to the top of the business ladder.

Bachchan and his co-star/rumoured girlfriend, Aishwarya Rai, are to walk the red carpet with the rest of the cast at the Elgin Theatre Thursday evening. A press conference originally scheduled for Thursday afternoon was postponed until Friday morning because of changes to the stars' flights, said organizers.

City officials said they expect up to 10,000 fans to line the streets outside the Yonge Street theatre to catch a glimpse of Rai and Bachchan at the premiere.

Officials asked police to block off part of the street in anticipation of the hysteria.

“There's a huge buzz,” said Peter Finestone, director of investment marketing for the City of Toronto, which has been helping the film's distributors with the premiere.

“I think (it's) just fabulous and a huge benefit to the city.”

Toronto Mayor David Miller had personally invited the cast for the world premiere after Roger Nair Productions, based in Mississauga, Ont., acquired the Canadian distribution rights of the Hindi film.

Nair said demand for tickets to the gala was hot.

“It is insane. It's insane!” he said Wednesday over the phone, adding that theatres across the country have been calling asking if they can show the film.

Top price for the gala is $500, although fans need wait only another day to see the film at regular box office prices. “Guru” opens in cities across Canada on Friday.

Toronto is an excellent place to launch the film because of the region's large South Asian community, said Finestone.

Thousands of Bollywood fans showed up outside a city theatre in September for the premiere of another Indian export, “Never Say Goodbye,” at the Toronto International Film Festival.

“It was shown on the same day as ‘Babel,' the Oscar-touted movie starring Brad Pitt,” said festival co-director Noah Cowan.

“Let's say the crowds for ‘Never Say Goodbye' were probably 10 times the size of the crowds that turned out for Mr. Pitt. So the fact that there's excitement in the city for a major new movie by a director I consider one of the best working in South Asia is no surprise at all.”

Thayalachelvam said several of his friends have paid big dollars to be at the premiere.

“I know a couple of people who actually bought tickets for $350,” he said.

“Bollywood is a big thing down here . . . so everybody knows it now. Everybody watches Bollywood movies in Toronto. It's more multicultural and diverse.”

Taller Better
Jan 15, 2007, 6:00 PM
That is so cool! I was out of town or I would have tried to photograph the crowds!

IntotheWest
Jan 15, 2007, 6:12 PM
The Bollywood hit "Dus" from 2005 was actually filmed mostly in Calgary...they had an interesting way of filming too (the car chase scene for example on Deerfoot was filmed in live traffic with little planning ;-).

Not sure how many other Bollywood movies have been filmed here. The Calgary press really distressed Sanjay Dutt with continued front-page coverage of the allegations of his involvment with bombings in the 90's.

skrish
Jan 15, 2007, 6:41 PM
According to immigration trends, South Asians will be the country's dominant visible ethnic group by 2017, with a projected 1.8 million South Asian population.


This is what blows my mind. I can't believe how fast the South Asian population has grown, not only in Van and TO, but throughout the country. I remember growing up in the eighties here in Calgary and believe me, it wasn't easy to be an Indian then. How times have changed.

Kilgore Trout
Jan 15, 2007, 6:50 PM
i forget the name, but a recent bollywood blockbuster was filmed and set in new york, too.

even if north america's south asian population is nothing compared to the billion-plus people on the indian subcontinent, its relative wealth, mobility and connectedness means that it's an increasingly lucrative market for things such as bollywood film.

canada has a tiny population yet it has a wildly disproportionate influence on south asian and chinese pop culture. there are dozens of canadians who are stars in hong kong and india; canadian-made bhangra music is actually popular in asia. as the global culture and economy shifts towards asia, i think these kinds of connections will be meaningful in the long run.

Taller Better
Jan 15, 2007, 6:57 PM
They have filmed in Toronto and Niagara Falls before, as well. There is quite a good pool here of Indo-Canadian actors.

IntotheWest
Jan 15, 2007, 9:46 PM
They have filmed in Toronto and Niagara Falls before, as well.

Do you recall which ones?

...it's an increasingly lucrative market for things such as bollywood film.

You may recall that back in 2002, some Bollywood stars put together a North American live concert tour...I know that had Canadian stops in Van, Calgary, TO, and Montreal (maybe Ottawa?). I remember one of my Indian friends was going to get tickets for his kids to the Calgary show - but had sold out very quickly...and I believe the tickets were close to $100/each.

There is definitely a growing market across Canada.

SpongeG
Jan 15, 2007, 9:54 PM
The Bollywood hit "Dus" from 2005 was actually filmed mostly in Calgary...they had an interesting way of filming too (the car chase scene for example on Deerfoot was filmed in live traffic with little planning ;-).

Not sure how many other Bollywood movies have been filmed here. The Calgary press really distressed Sanjay Dutt with continued front-page coverage of the allegations of his involvment with bombings in the 90's.


i wonder if thats the one i saw... there was one that was filmed in Calgary - they used the C train a bit - it looked like the people in the background were not aware a movie was being filmed - they couldn't have been paid extras - funny thing about that movie was it was all Calgary but every often they used a Vancouver shot :koko:

SpongeG
Jan 15, 2007, 9:59 PM
i've seen pretty much all the big bollywood films since 2005 - my friend loves them so we go see a couple every month - we will see Guru on friday

the last year though Strawberry Hill, cineplex odeon, in Surrey has started to have no less than 3 bollywood films every week and often they are being played on two screens the first week out - and the crowds that show up are huge - even for the matinees

we saw dhoom 2 and that was packed on an afternoon, when we saw krish it was full and showing on two screens - when we came out there must have been a good 300 people lined up for the next showing

we saw babal a couple weeks ago and that too was packed - we barely got a seat

the movies themseleves are quite cheesey and the effects are lacking and they can drag on and on but theyare fun to watch for what they are

SpongeG
Jan 15, 2007, 10:02 PM
oh and we saw the bollywood version of othello - it was really good

there was another movie - that was suppossedly set in new york but it was filmed in downtown vancouver and the one cafe they go to was in white rock

SpongeG
Jan 15, 2007, 10:19 PM
oh ash and abh were reportedly married sunday night in india

IntotheWest
Jan 15, 2007, 11:42 PM
i wonder if thats the one i saw... there was one that was filmed in Calgary - they used the C train a bit - it looked like the people in the background were not aware a movie was being filmed - they couldn't have been paid extras - funny thing about that movie was it was all Calgary but every often they used a Vancouver shot :koko:

No - don't believe they had Van shots in it, must be a different one you're thinking of...they showed the Calgary skyline several times - at first when they landed in "Canada".

My brother-in-law did stunts for the show, so he told me about the Deerfoot scene...as well, he used his own car for the downtown (Eau Claire) chase scene - kinda funny actually.

Anyway, it was one of the biggest India hits in 05.

someone123
Jan 15, 2007, 11:50 PM
Are these films really that great? They are a pop culture phenomenon in India and I have heard that they tend to be pretty formulaic. It sounds like these are becoming popular here more because they are foreign and exotic than because they are good films with substance.

Taller Better
Jan 16, 2007, 12:03 AM
Do you recall which ones?
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Not offhand, but I remember seeing a tv show about it, or reading in the paper. One actress from Toronto is doing pretty well over there. There seems to be two types of Bollywood movies... one strictly for Indian audiences, and cross-over types to appeal to Western nations. One of those cross over ones was half in Toronto and half in India, and was only a few years ago. I am sure someone knows which one I mean. I can handle some Bollywood... but pretty much only the cross over ones. And even them I get a little tired of as the messages tend to be usually the same in all of them (young generation vs parents/ class system/ rich Western Indian ex-pat bachelor coming back to find an Indian bride and she turns him down despite the fact he is rich to be true to herself.. etc...) . The messages aren't really subtle, and they kind of hit you over the head with them. Guru was really funny.

skrish
Jan 16, 2007, 12:27 AM
No - don't believe they had Van shots in it, must be a different one you're thinking of...they showed the Calgary skyline several times - at first when they landed in "Canada".

My brother-in-law did stunts for the show, so he told me about the Deerfoot scene...as well, he used his own car for the downtown (Eau Claire) chase scene - kinda funny actually.

Anyway, it was one of the biggest India hits in 05.

My cousin was a dancer in this movie. She even took my mom to go meet Sunil Shetty, Abhishek, Zayed Khan and a few others. I personally can't stand Bollywood films, but the women are so hot.

WhipperSnapper
Jan 16, 2007, 3:40 AM
don't care for Bollywood but quite a few in the south asian community do know how to party like no one else - that 3 day wedding I was at this summer was out of this world

and the women, IMshallowO, are either big hits or big misses

LordMandeep
Jan 16, 2007, 3:57 AM
my local theater has now been dominated by south asian movies. They get tons of sold out packed shows throughout the weekend.

SD
Jan 16, 2007, 4:50 AM
Toronto is a fairly popular Bollywood filming location (as itself - not standing in for another city) and becoming moreso as time goes by.

SpongeG
Jan 16, 2007, 5:24 AM
No - don't believe they had Van shots in it, must be a different one you're thinking of...they showed the Calgary skyline several times - at first when they landed in "Canada".

My brother-in-law did stunts for the show, so he told me about the Deerfoot scene...as well, he used his own car for the downtown (Eau Claire) chase scene - kinda funny actually.

Anyway, it was one of the biggest India hits in 05.

i can't even remember who was in it or it was about now...

it was a 2006 movie i think - so must have been different

this movie they never specified a city other than the guy in it went to a Canadian City - that was clearly Calgary but they had a few shots where they were coming in over lions gate bridge :haha: and i was like um :rolleyes:

SpongeG
Jan 16, 2007, 5:32 AM
Are these films really that great? They are a pop culture phenomenon in India and I have heard that they tend to be pretty formulaic. It sounds like these are becoming popular here more because they are foreign and exotic than because they are good films with substance.

some are good but a lot are bad - well i found them to be

they are so over the top - in every way, dramatic, far fetched etc. they must have a number of song and dance routines - some do it a way that isn;t so obvious - done more like montages or scenes than actual people getting up from a table and starting to dance - rang de basanti - i really liked that one - they never had bigdance numbers but they worked it in in a way that wasn't jarring or out of place - that movie though did get a little too much towards the end but i would recommend it, and the bollywood version of othello - i forget the name was really good and not too over the top

dhoom2 was ok but again a little far fetched and they have a long way to go with special effects - i watched another i forget the name - th one guy was an astronaut and they were suppossed to be in space and they were "floating" but you could totally see the rope thing they were hanging from and their clothes were pinched - they tried to digitally erase the rope but it was so poorly done - i had to laugh

and than their idea of humour is kinda weird at times - very slap stick and very languagey - according to my friend of south asian origin - he said they laugh at the accents or way that things get said

also white people or westerners are portayed in a no so kind way it seems - when they have americans or canadians talking they talked with very weird accents and were made the butt of jokes

SD
Jan 16, 2007, 5:36 AM
some are good but a lot are bad - well i found them to be

they are so over the top - in every way, dramatic, far fetched etc. they must have a number of song and dance routines - some do it a way that isn;t so obvious - done more like montages or scenes than actual people getting up from a table and starting to dance - rang de basanti - i really liked that one - they never had bigdance numbers but they worked it in in a way that wasn't jarring or out of place - that movie though did get a little too much towards the end but i would recommend it, and the bollywood version of othello - i forget the name was really good and not too over the top

dhoom2 was ok but again a little far fetched and they have a long way to go with special effects - i watched another i forget the name - th one guy was an astronaut and they were suppossed to be in space and they were "floating" but you could totally see the rope thing they were hanging from and their clothes were pinched - they tried to digitally erase the rope but it was so poorly done - i had to laugh

and than their idea of humour is kinda weird at times - very slap stick and very languagey - according to my friend of south asian origin - he said they laugh at the accents or way that things get said

also white people or westerners are portayed in a no so kind way it seems - when they have americans or canadians talking they talked with very weird accents and were made the butt of jokes



There are still a lot of the typical Bollywood films, but there are continually more good ones that don't really fit the mold.

Bollywood just keeps growing and growing...it's extremely popular around the world.

SpongeG
Jan 16, 2007, 5:40 AM
yup - my friend intorduced me a couple years ago and now we see all the ones we can

there is a crappy theatre here called RAJA - where we used to go but now we can go to the nice cineplex with great seating and see them

i heard kabul express is good

Kilgore Trout
Jan 16, 2007, 6:10 AM
Are these films really that great? They are a pop culture phenomenon in India and I have heard that they tend to be pretty formulaic. It sounds like these are becoming popular here more because they are foreign and exotic than because they are good films with substance.


"pop culture phenomenon" is kind of an understatement --- bollywood is the largest film industry in the world, both in terms of audience numbers and number of films produced.

the films themselves tend to be campy, melodramatic crowd-pleasers. they're becoming popular in canada because of the large and growing south asian population and because some of the more universally appealing elements (such as the dance scenes) have trickled into mainstream north american culture.

substance really doesn't have anything to do with it. the best films are rarely the most popular, in hollywood, bollywood, nollywood or any other of the world's largest film industries.

SpongeG
Jan 16, 2007, 6:17 AM
pakistan calls its film industry lollywood - my friend is from pakistan - he doesn;t like the movies from there though :haha:

Wooster
Jan 16, 2007, 6:38 AM
The Bollywood hit "Dus" from 2005 was actually filmed mostly in Calgary...they had an interesting way of filming too (the car chase scene for example on Deerfoot was filmed in live traffic with little planning ;-).

Not sure how many other Bollywood movies have been filmed here. The Calgary press really distressed Sanjay Dutt with continued front-page coverage of the allegations of his involvment with bombings in the 90's.

http://www.planetbollywood.com/Film/Dus/ :haha: I like their pose in McMahan Stadium. Bollywood Steven Segal Movie.

IntotheWest
Jan 16, 2007, 4:26 PM
^Good review...I like the line "God knows why they chose Calgary of all places; perhaps to cut production costs?)":haha: I'm sure most in India had no clue where Calgary is.

I did think that there was a lot of "posing" that put the movie over the top. My brother-in-law was also in the bridge scene as a sniper...that the Indian super-hero dude takes out. As the review says, it seemed that the movie used standard plot devices and reused action sequences - as some mention above about other Bollywood movies.

Then I realized, that Hollywood is guilty of the same thing for their "blockbusters". These guys acted no different than Tom Cruise and the unbelievable MI series. At least the live action driving scenes seem more intense once you realize its live traffic (imagine crawling out of your car on Deerfoot!?).



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