NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[sw5710]

"WOW":jester: :jester:

[2-TOWERS]

wow isnt the only word....the curtain wall will be amazing....and i would guess that 45-46 floors will meet up on the angles......i am on here at least 6x a day and there is always something new....:cheers:

[brenGT2]

After seeing those pictures, I am even more excited than ever to see the cladding go up!

[Onn]

That's cladding 3.0, it looks like they just took it off an alien spaceship. :D

The quality looks beyond anything we've seen before, and the addition of the stainless steel is a nice touch. They just made all towers of the same height without similar trim lose their "new car" smell. But that's how design works, each decade brings something new to the table.

[sw5710]

wow isnt the only word....the curtain wall will be amazing....and i would guess that 45-46 floors will meet up on the angles......i am on here at least 6x a day and there is always something new....:cheers:

Do you mean where the angled steel beams will meet up with the 1st vertical steel beams? If so I read it was floor 52. Next week when they put up the scaffolding for 43,44 they will pass 500' taller then Vessy.

[NYC4Life]

Such a vast and complex site that it can only be understood when looked at from above. Looks like WTC1 has reached the height of the Verizon Building.

[NYguy]

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_389/portprovides.html

Port provides update to WTC Committee

BY Aline Reynolds
October 6 - 12, 2010

One W.T.C. is now 40 stories high, rising at a continued construction rate of about one floor per week.

“The building will be 90 stories high by the 10-year anniversary of 9/11,” Ward said.

Conde Nast’s show of interest in leasing office space in one W.T.C. is a “game-changer for Downtown,” Ward said. “The relationship with that type of employee would have with Downtown… I think will be really dramatic.”

The large-scale media company would also nurture the area’s housing sector, he said, since it caters to a primarily urban work force.

[NYguy]

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Here's another look at that section Bucktown718 posted ...


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[RockMont]

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Now that is one fine looking piece of facade siding. It'll look good on that building.

[CGII]

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[Dac150]

From that perspective you get a good idea about how big this building is really going to be (just in comparing the width to 3 WFC).

[Rizzo]

Is that a mock-up or the final product? Nonetheless I have goosebumps.:banaride:


I actually hope it's not a mockup but the real thing. There's a very typical situation that happens where a company will put out a mockup and then the actual product will come out looking very different.

What I see, I really hope will end up on the building. Look at those window frames, nice thin clean edges!

[upNaway]

I actually hope it's not a mockup but the real thing. There's a very typical situation that happens where a company will put out a mockup and then the actual product will come out looking very different.

What I see, I really hope will end up on the building. Look at those window frames, nice thin clean edges!

the mock up has already been done there are pictures of it on the net
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=78621&page=42

[patriotizzy]

wow isnt the only word....the curtain wall will be amazing....and i would guess that 45-46 floors will meet up on the angles......i am on here at least 6x a day and there is always something new....:cheers:

Damn, and I thought visiting this site twice a day was too much for me lol.

[Innsertnamehere]

that is the real thing, and there is absolutely no "waviness" in it! AMAZING!!!

[Bucktown718]

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[RobertWalpole]

What a magnificent facade this will be!!!

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World Trade Center Redevelopment
Sneak Preview of the World Trade Center's New Face


The steel has risen up to the 42nd floor of 1 World Trade Center, which means it's time for our future tallest tower to start putting on its face! The glass and metal facade is en route from Portland, Oregon, and Owaponna, Minnesota, and should start going up on the building next month. The Port Authority released the above photos of a huge piece of corner facade that will cover a corner between floors 20-24. Cool, right? See more on the WTC Progress site. Need a reminder about what the building formerly known as the Freedom Tower will look like when finished? Here's a facade refresher.

Including the building's outdoor plaza. >>

www.curbed.com

[meh_cd]

Either clear or mirrored depending on your location. I love the glass even more than I thought I would.

[colemonkee]

The facade really does look top-notch. Rivaling the Shard's cladding, even, which is not an easy feat. Can't wait to see it go up on the building.

[New Skyline]

With a few gigawatt's of EM and microwave energy passing through me, I think I'll pass on that.



Point taken..

[NYguy]

Either clear or mirrored depending on your location. I love the glass even more than I thought I would.

Think of 7 WTC (wtc.com)

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Without backlighting, this tower gives the impression of simply rising up like the original towers...

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[Onn]

Still not seeing much of a comparison with 7WTC, but okay.

[thelanetrain17]

whatsup everyone I am new to the forum. I was just in NYC about a week ago and saw the awesome progress on WTC 1. its going to be a magnificent building. I hope New York builds more buildings like that in future years

[NYguy]

Still not seeing much of a comparison with 7WTC, but okay.

The comparison is with clear vs. mirrored, not with the tower.



A closer look at that last photo gives us a peek inside:

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[thelanetrain17]

Where are you located when you took that?? WTC7? one of the World Financial buildings? Great photos!!

[NYguy]

Those photos are most likely taken from the Millenium Hotel.

[thelanetrain17]

well those are some awesome photos!!

[NYguy]

http://www.dnainfo.com/20101008/downtown/one-world-trade-center-prepares-shine

One World Trade Center Prepares to Shine
The glass and steel facade of One World Trade Center will begin to go up next month.

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By Julie Shapiro
October 8, 2010

The shining exterior of One World Trade Center will soon be visible for miles around.

The gleaming stainless-steel and glass panels will begin to rise next month to cover the skyscraper, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, the Port Authority said.

The first batch of facade materials, including pieces for the 20th through 24th floors, is already on its way to lower Manhattan. The glass is coming from the manufacturer Viracon of Owaponna, Minn., and the steel pieces are traveling from the main curtain wall contractor, Benson Industries of Portland, Ore., the Port Authority said.

David M. Childs' design for the 1,776-foot tower — which will be the tallest in the city when completed — features eight tall triangles of glass and steel, which grow alternately narrower and wider as they approach the building's peak. Halfway up the tower, the facets of the facade will form a perfect octogon.

"Its overall effect is that of a crystalline form that captures an ever‐evolving display of refracted light," said Childs' firm, Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, in a statement.

"As the sun moves through the sky or we move around the tower, the surfaces appear like a kaleidoscope, and will change throughout the day as light and weather conditions change."

The first 20 stories of the tower, comprising the lobby and mechanical space, will have a more porous, sparkling facade, made of prismatic glass and an aluminum screen.

Steel for tower has reached the 42nd floor and is rising at a rate of one story per week.

The $3.2 billion building is scheduled to open in 2013.


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Pieces of the facade are on their way to New York

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

wait...now its being put up next month?

[slayerhk47]

wait...now its being put up next month?

i think they mean within the next month.
But idk, perhaps it was delayed?

[Onn]

The comparison is with clear vs. mirrored, not with the tower.

Yeah....hasn't that been what we've been talking about all along now? I don't see that many comparisons between the glass. I definitely don't think 1WTC's glass is going to be that blue or wavy, and the panels are also larger. I think it's going to look rather different. But I guess what do I know?

i think they mean within the next month.
But idk, perhaps it was delayed?
If the cladding is shipping out it has to be going up sooner rather than later.

[NYguy]

Yeah....hasn't that been what we've been talking about all along now? I don't see that many comparisons between the glass.

I'll make it plain. As correctly pointed out by meh_cd, the glass will be either clear or mirrored, depending on your location, same as 7 WTC. Very simple.

[sw5710]

The lift on the south side has been taken down.

[Onn]

I'll make it plain. As correctly pointed out by meh_cd, the glass will be either clear or mirrored, depending on your location, same as 7 WTC. Very simple.

In that regard it's probable, yes. But there are many different criteria you could take into consideration.

[NYguy]

In that regard it's probable, yes. But there are many different criteria you could take into consideration.

That's the way it's been planned from the beginning, when Larry Silverstein was still in charge of developing the building and David Childs was designing it. 7 WTC is your best example at the site because its the only one built.

[Domamania]

The lift on the south side has been taken down.

your absolutly right . But why did they take it down?

[steveve]

Now that the tower has really risen, you can appreciate how slim of a tower it's going to be... the base was HUGE and the tower will also be HUGE!. pure epic. :D

And for some reason, the chrome edges of the cladding remind me somehow of the Chicago spire.... it looks great :D! can't wait to see this in action!

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

There has a lot progress been made in 2010.

[The North One]

OH MY GOSH! the tower is actually taller then it is wider now!

and the facade looks sexy as hell!

[JACKinBeantown]

It's much teller then it is wide. Hes been for e long time.

[NYguy]

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[NYguy]

http://lowermanhattan.info/news/renewed_collaboration_makes_wtc_28050.aspx

Ward began with a progress report on his agency’s projects. At 1 WTC, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, the steel frame is at the 40th floor -- nearly up to half of it’s total height of 104 stories. Ward said that crews from Tishman Construction are erecting about one floor per week, and that the iconic tower should be up to the 90th floor -- if not topped out -- by the 2011 anniversary of 9/11.

Cladding of 1 WTC’s lower floors is planned to begin by late next month, and will rise with the building as new stories are built. Already the tower’s cranes can be seen on the downtown skyline, with the structure itself likely to be visible from around the region in early 2011.

[325ccr]

timelapse setting steel on Oct. 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Vt5c9MOYQ

[banned]

The glass is still being manufactured in China, correct?

[NYguy]

The glass is still being manufactured in China, correct?

The glass for the base is being manufactured in China. We haven't seen that yet, but as for the glass and steel we are anticipating, another look...

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The glass is coming from the manufacturer Viracon of Owaponna, Minn., and the steel pieces are traveling from the main curtain wall contractor, Benson Industries of Portland, Ore., the Port Authority said.

[CoolCzech]

So what does everybody think: will the FT make all of you guys reevaluate your opinion of David Childs?

[AuxTown]

The materials look top notch, this tower's gonna look amazing! It looks like 1WTC and The Shard are gonna be two of my favourite towers in the world once completed. I really like the type of glass builders are using these days.

[NYguy]

Cladding of 1 WTC’s lower floors is planned to begin by late next month, and will rise with the building as new stories are built. Already the tower’s cranes can be seen on the downtown skyline, with the structure itself likely to be visible from around the region in early 2011.


This tower is supposed to help heal and restore the skyline. So come spring, the healing begins!


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[Onn]

So what does everybody think: will the FT make all of you guys reevaluate your opinion of David Childs?

Maybe, we'll see (although he also did 7WTC). This is not the finished product yet. And I think the real test will come 10 or 20 years from now, seeing how the towers holds up over time. That's the big question.

[NYguy]

More on what we should expect...

Ward said that crews from Tishman Construction are erecting about one floor per week, and that the iconic tower
should be up to the 90th floor -- if not topped out -- by the 2011 anniversary of 9/11.



Our goal in height for spring (minus a few floors)...

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Our goal for next fall (best case)

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And beyond that, sometime in 2012...

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A lot of people in the city (and surrounding areas) are going to be surprised next year when this tower starts overtaking the skyline next year.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

:previous: The spire is so beautiful...

Webcam update from wtcprogress:

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[2-TOWERS]

RISE BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she's looking beautiful :)

[Plokoon11]

The spire reminds me of a cactus needle, but its just awesome looking and original.

[Zensteeldude]

your absolutly right . But why did they take it down?

They took down the construction hoist on the south side because the main ones on the east and west sides are fully operational now.

Anything that does not need to be there is going to come down in the next few weeks to make way for curtain wall installation.

[NYguy]

Cool reflections...

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[Zensteeldude]

:previous: Art and information, cool shot.

Expanding thoughts on the glass for the curtain wall.

The glass is "super clear" but any super smooth surface, like glass, well act like a mirror at anything other than 90 degrees of refraction. ( I forgot much of my HS physics, but the reflection is exponential to the angle of reflection, or something like that.)

Unless it is back lit or you are viewing it at zero degrees of reflection the glass of the curtain wall well mirror, or reflect, the light that hits it.

[patriotizzy]

:previous: Art and information, cool shot.

Expanding thoughts on the glass for the curtain wall.

The glass is "super clear" but any super smooth surface, like glass, well act like a mirror at anything other than 90 degrees of refraction. ( I forgot much of my HS physics, but the reflection is exponential to the angle of reflection, or something like that.)

Unless it is back lit or you are viewing it at zero degrees of reflection the glass of the curtain wall well mirror, or reflect, the light that hits it.

Are we back in high school now!? :shrug:

[NYguy]

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[sask1982]

Thanks for all the great updates! I'm going to be in NYC in late Sept 2011; this will be my first time to NYC and i'm really looking fwd to visiting the new World Trade Center especially. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that 1WTC will be topped out (or very close) by that time.

[wwmiv]

:previous: Art and information, cool shot.

Expanding thoughts on the glass for the curtain wall.

The glass is "super clear" but any super smooth surface, like glass, well act like a mirror at anything other than 90 degrees of refraction. ( I forgot much of my HS physics, but the reflection is exponential to the angle of reflection, or something like that.)

Unless it is back lit or you are viewing it at zero degrees of reflection the glass of the curtain wall well mirror, or reflect, the light that hits it.

...the wall WILL act as a mirror...

[Zensteeldude]

:previous: Correct. (My post didn't make that perfectly clear. (Pun intended))

There is no mirror coating added to the glass.

[patriotizzy]

Thanks for all the great updates! I'm going to be in NYC in late Sept 2011; this will be my first time to NYC and i'm really looking fwd to visiting the new World Trade Center especially. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that 1WTC will be topped out (or very close) by that time.

You are so lucky! I really look forward to visiting NYC as well one of these days. I was hoping to do so next year as well, or a little after 2012. I hope to be there when 1WTC is topped and the transportation hub is finished. That thing looks so amazing!

[NYCLuver]

October 9th, 2010

Yes apparently I am a night owl lately. :D

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[NYguy]

I love the night shots. It gives just the slightest hint of what is to be...

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[NYguy]

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/10/11/1_world_trade_center_hardhat_tour_concrete_steel_and_views.php

1 World Trade Center Hardhat Tour: Concrete, Steel, and Views

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Monday, October 11, 2010, by Joey Arak

As part of Open House New York weekend, we were lucky enough to snag a spot on one of the hardhat tours of 1 World Trade Center, what will one day be North America's tallest and most well-read skyscraper.

Steel has now risen to the 42nd floor of the tower, and the sturdy skeleton will continue to inch upward until the first month of 2012. That slow ascent won't stop the first chunks of glassy curtain wall from being installed, a process that will begin next month.


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Realtors would kvell over these high ceilings.

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Wide-open office floorplate up on the 25th floor.

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Looking out over the memorial plaza site, including one of the tower footprints/waterfalls.

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Inside the core.

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The Port Authority let tour-goers sign the same steel column signed by the Lt. Gov. of New Jersey.

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Eventually there will be walkways here, but for now, don't look down.

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Talk about mixing old and new! The pre-war facade next door couldn't be closer.
We're guessing the Condé Nast research assistants will get stuck on this side.

[NYguy]

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[Pbellamy]

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How jealous am I!

[NYguy]

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[westmc9th]

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11129&d=1286828303

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just to show how far his buddy tower 4 across the way has to go


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[FastFerrari82]

some very nice pictures there. cant believe how the site is progressing. wow:cheers:

[NYguy]

Yeah, we have seen some nice pictures lately, and as the tower rises we will only begin to see more.

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Here's a better look at that curbed.com set...

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[scalziand]

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This shot is excellent at showing progress on the Vehicle Security Center and the DB demolition.

[NYguy]

This is the view through the screen...

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And of course, the excitement of the coming glass and steel....

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[2-TOWERS]

absolutely stunning pics.......look at 7 WORLD TRADE... you can read his mind saying my big brother is coming back.......again fantastic , stunning photos....

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Great images, NYGuy!

Recent webcam update, there is also visiable progress at the pavillon for the memorial:

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[sterlippo1]

absolutely stunning pics.......look at 7 WORLD TRADE... you can read his mind saying my big brother is coming back.......again fantastic , stunning photos....

i know it............7WTC is a stud too;) :tup:

[NYguy]

Interesting pic, the city's two tallest stand guard as the city's new tallest rises...

Putter482 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28486643@N02/5075337423/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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[Zensteeldude]

Let's all give a big shout out to the Lads Down Under for those beautiful cranes making this all possible. As they did back in the 60's and 70's for the Twins.

[Domamania]

wow in 2 weeks tops Tower 1v2 will surpass the height of the verizon building, and i would say in 8 floors it will surpass the metlife aka panam building.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

wow in 2 weeks tops Tower 1v2 will surpass the height of the verizon building, and i would say in 8 floors it will surpass the metlife aka panam building.

what? no...the MetLife Building at Grand central terminal (43rd and Park Ave) is 808 ft.

[sw5710]

It should pass the Verizon building 498' within the next few days. When they raise the scaffolding and start floor 43,44 507'. Metlife in 5 months.

[NYguy]

i would say in 8 floors it will surpass the metlife aka panam building.

I don't think that will happen until early next year, at around the same time it will top Chase Manhattan Bank, leaving only a handful of skyscrapers Downtown to be conquered on its quest to skyline's tallest.

[Draegen]

Whats that under construction behind 7 wtc?

[sw5710]

I don't think that will happen until early next year, at around the same time it will top Chase Manhattan Bank, leaving only a handful of skyscrapers Downtown to be conquered on its quest to skyline's tallest.

Every 2 weeks the building grows 2 floors or 26'8". 54' per month. I believe that will increase when the floors get smaller.

[NYguy]

^ Perhaps, but I wouldn't expect it to reach 800 ft until after the end of the year.

Whats that under construction behind 7 wtc?

A branch of BMCC...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=184311

[Pbellamy]

A quick question that I haven't seen asked on this forum yet...

The steel work is progressing at about 1 floor per week which I'm guessing pretty much fully utilises the cranes. Does the additional work required to support the cladding activities not impact the schedule for steel work?

(I'm assuming the cranes are needed to raise the cladidng).

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Lovely shot I found at SSC.

Behind the two buildings that is going to be surpassed soon...

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[uakoops]

A quick question that I haven't seen asked on this forum yet...

The steel work is progressing at about 1 floor per week which I'm guessing pretty much fully utilises the cranes. Does the additional work required to support the cladding activities not impact the schedule for steel work?

(I'm assuming the cranes are needed to raise the cladidng).

I believe they can bring the panels up in the elevator and install them from the inside, using a small crane positioned one floor above.

[Nico54]

I still do not understand what's the aim of the crane at the north west corner of the tower...

[wong21fr]

I still do not understand what's the aim of the crane at the north west corner of the tower...

It's used by the concrete contractor to bring up rebar and other materials for the building's core. This allows the two main tower cranes to focus on erecting the building's steel superstructure.

[NYguy]

Lovely shot I found at SSC.

Behind the two buildings that is going to be surpassed soon...

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Almost indentical...;)

Interesting pic, the city's two tallest stand guard as the city's new tallest rises...

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[NYguy]

Not really news...and NOT an invitation for a city vs. city or spire vs. roof argument.


http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/10/13/tallest-building-title-may-return-to-new-york/
Tallest Building Title May Return to New York

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The Willis Tower: Tallest in America, for now...

Maura Webber Sadovi reports:
October 13, 2010

Chicago may soon lose bragging rights for being home to the country’s tallest building.

That distinction belongs to Chicago’s Willis Tower, which is 1,450 feet high. But that is soon to be eclipsed by the 1,776-foot One World Trade Center in New York that is now under construction, according to Marshall Gerometta, database editor for the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat in Chicago.

Chicago’s hope has been tied to plans for Chicago Spire, a 2,000-foot tower designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava slated to overlook Lake Michigan. But financial problems have stalled construction since 2008 on the proposed luxury residential building.

Most recently, Anglo Irish Bank Corp. moved to foreclose on a defaulted mortgage valued at about $77 million including interest and other unpaid charges held by the developer, Shelbourne Development, according to a recent filing in Circuit Court of Cook County, Ill. Lorig Construction Co. of Des Plaines, Ill. earlier filed suit seeking about $512,386 for what it alleged was unpaid work on the project.

The country’s tallest building title “would go back to New York,” if the Spire doesn’t go forward and the New York building is completed as planned, said Mr. Gerometta, who is keeping an eye on the Spire’s progress. An attorney for the Spire’s developer said the project isn’t dead and Shelbourne still is seeking other sources of financing.

[NYguy]

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[FrancoRey]

Not really news...and NOT an invitation for a city vs. city or spire vs. roof argument.


http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/10/13/tallest-building-title-may-return-to-new-york/
Tallest Building Title May Return to New York

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-KL054_Willis_DV_20101013103929.jpg
The Willis Tower: Tallest in America, for now...

Maura Webber Sadovi reports:
October 13, 2010

Why leave any title of USA's tallest to chance? Do what I said they should have done with 1 WTC's design 5 years ago! Make it 1,776 feet tall, with a spire bringing it up to the year it's completed (2,012). That way you beat the Spire regardless if it's built.

They should still change the tower to these heights, IMO. I mean, it's not like they already laid the foundation or finalized designs. :haha:

Let me dream.

[eaguir3]

i dont really think Chicago cares anymore if we have the tallest anymore lol

[sw5710]

Why leave any title of USA's tallest to chance? Do what I said they should have done with 1 WTC's design 5 years ago! Make it 1,776 feet tall, with a spire bringing it up to the year it's completed (2,012). That way you beat the Spire regardless if it's built.

They should still change the tower to these heights, IMO. I mean, it's not like they already laid the foundation or finalized designs. :haha:

Let me dream.

Sometimes I wonder if there could have been or will be some design changes that we won't know about untill they are built.

[sw5710]

I thought Americas supertall towers were and are built because of "office demand" There sometimes is not enough land or land is to expensive as with New York so they build up. I see alot of 1500'-2500' projects in countries that seem to be showing off how tall they can build. What percent of those towers are built because there is the demand for a 2000 foot tall towers space! How many will be 1/2 full or less in 5 or 10 years from now?

[Onn]

I thought all of Americas supertall towers were and are built because of "office demand" But there sometimes is not enough land or land is to expensive as with New York so they build up. I see alot of 1500'-2500' projects in countries that seem to be showing off how tall they can build. What percent of those towers are built because there is the demand for a 2000 foot tall tower. How many will be 1/2 full or less in 5 or 10 years from now?

Look at the Sears...I mean, Willis Tower. That's what most 2,000 foot towers will probably look like in the future, a future half or more empty. These kind of towers are huge and become outdated quickly. Furthermore your right, the space just isn't needed. We can look at our own cities and see the office vacancies already, imagine trying to get rid of a 2,000 foot tower. 1WTC will be successful being in the financial capital of the world, just as the Twins were before. But beyond that who really knows.

[JACKinBeantown]

I'm sure everyone on this forum knows this, but the Empire State Building was known as the "Empty State Building" throughout the 1930's because it was built at the beginning of the Great Depression and remained largely empty after it was built. The same fate may or may not be true for so many supertalls being built throughout the world today. Be it bragging rights or supply filling demand... whatever. I appreciate great architecture at whatever size the building is. If it's a three-story building in Idaho or a 125 story building in Dubai, as long as the architecture is nice and the building makes sense in its location, I'm all for it.

One World Trade Center is being built (as is the entire WTC complex) in a location where demand will make sure the buildings are filled. As many of you will agree, I can't wait to see it fill the void left by the loss of the original World Trade Center (and the lives of all those who were lost that day).

Now back to the subject of the building itself...

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

I'm sure everyone on this forum knows this, but the Empire State Building was known as the "Empty State Building" throughout the 1930's because it was built at the beginning of the Great Depression and remained largely empty after it was built. The same fate may or may not be true for so many supertalls being built throughout the world today. Be it bragging rights or supply filling demand... whatever. I appreciate great architecture at whatever size the building is. If it's a three-story building in Idaho or a 125 story building in Dubai, as long as the architecture is nice and the building makes sense in its location, I'm all for it.

though that undermines architectures purpose,sure a building may be beautiful though if its not occupied then its senseless. it does not serve its purpose and as true as it may be that the ESB was unoccupied and largely useless it still wasn't 2000 feet as all theses speculatory towers are today. nobody needs a tower that tall,in the long run they will just become burdens on the economy. until it becomes practical im against it being done...