NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[Otie]

Yup, I was wrong, the nodes are located at the top of parapet, looks like the structural engineer consultant re-configured the perimeter structure, damn old prints...

[Roadcruiser1]

Well then here comes the sad part. The f**ked up antenna/mast made by Durst. :(

[alan88]

someone could explain me why 1WTC is expected to cost around 4 billion of dollars ????

burj khalifa is two times taller and needed two times the amount of materials, but it costed only one billion....

:sly:
:sly:

The 4 billion is not the construction cost but the project cost. It includes for example over 600 million for tenant fitout,what is called TI when you give a new tenant say $50/sq ft, plus commssions to brokers, fees for Durst durst etc.

[Roadcruiser1]

The 4 billion is not the construction cost but the project cost. It includes for example over 600 million for tenant fitout,what is called TI when you give a new tenant say $50/sq ft, plus commssions to brokers, fees for Durst durst etc.

Alright I have heard enough about Durst. They seem to be a group of a**holes that are ruining the project for everyone. Kick them out!

[chris123678]

The Spire was a beautiful piece of architecture and really makes One World Trade Center Stand out. Not that's it's gone, it's like Durst and the Port Authority treat this as a regular office building.
It's not, it's a symbol to the world. Everybody will see it.
They can't come up with a way to fix the radome enclosure if one of the panels break, yet they find ways to make the strongest concrete,strongest steel,new base glass, and more.
It's sad, the people who stress to us the most that this building is a symbol, treat it as if it's a 2 story home.
Sad.

[Zapatan]

There is clearly a major lack of intelligence or accountablitiy behind this project that's for damn sure.

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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[Duck From NY]

There is clearly a major lack of intelligence or accountablitiy behind this project that's for damn sure.
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A lack of intelligence would be too convenient for them. Something tells me they were preparing to ditch the spire a long time ago.

[weatherguru18]

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Enjoy Houston's space shuttle, expletive...

[599GTO]

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[The Grand Architect]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/631250/thumbs/s-DOUBLE-RAINBOW-large640.jpg?4

Too bad it wasn't a double rainbow.

[meh_cd]

Yup, I was wrong, the nodes are located at the top of parapet, looks like the structural engineer consultant re-configured the perimeter structure, damn old prints...

Oh wow. We are almost there then. Wow.

[JACKinBeantown]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/631250/thumbs/s-DOUBLE-RAINBOW-large640.jpg?4

Fitting that the rainbow is emanating from the West Village. :rainbow:

[Jaystang5]

more steel / perimeter beams up now... any chance they could finish all perimeter steel today?

[Chapelo]

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This one is epic!

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[N830MH]

This one is epic!

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Day156 Clouds over the Hudson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/serenitbee/7341339528/) by serenitbee (http://www.flickr.com/people/serenitbee/), on Flickr

Yikes! The weather is very bad. It's not good weather at all.

[Yankee fan for life]

Was walking down 43 st today and looking at the Condé Nast Building antenna which is very similar to what 1 wtc antenna is going to be and guessing that 1 wtc antenna might grow on me in time .

[mrnyc]

just now ;)

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[Modulair]

the World Trade Center has definitely lost its reputation of empty hole :tup:

i hope to come back to NY next year, it will look so impressive because the last time i went, in 2008, WTC was still "ground zero" and the Empire state building was shyly topping out the skyline of NY...


i hope glass will be finished in 2013 !

[mrnyc]

since we're in the magic hour -- couple more from bpc just now:

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[mrnyc]

vestry street-ish and the hudson:

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[gramsjdg]

Was walking down 43 st today and looking at the Condé Nast Building antenna which is very similar to what 1 wtc antenna is going to be and guessing that 1 wtc antenna might grow on me in time .

I have to respectfully disagree.
The Code Nast antenna is the most hideous structure in all of NYC. Whoever is responsible for its installation should be horsewhipped, caned, and then horsewhipped again for uglifying the city.

[Zapatan]

I have to respectfully disagree.
The Code Nast antenna is the most hideous structure in all of NYC. Whoever is responsible for its installation should be horsewhipped, caned, and then horsewhipped again for uglifying the city.

I hate to imagine what Durst deserves then... :haha:

[RockMont]

the World Trade Center has definitely lost its reputation of empty hole :tup:

i hope to come back to NY next year, it will look so impressive because the last time i went, in 2008, WTC was still "ground zero" and the Empire state building was shyly topping out the skyline of NY...


i hope glass will be finished in 2013 !

I'm proud to say, the term "Ground Zero" no longer applies here. The new World Trade Center, it is.

[RockMont]

I hate to imagine what Durst deserves then... :haha:

Furthermore, not to mention what Liebeskind, would have deserved, if his designs had stood.

[CarlosV]

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[WTCman7301]

I'm proud to say, the term "Ground Zero" no longer applies here. The new World Trade Center, it is.

Amen to that! his place is now called the World Trade Center.:cheers:

Remember that.

[NYC GUY]

So when they finish the parapet will they immedietly start the communications ring and spire?

[jd3189]

:previous: Yep

I still can't fathom that the spire change will be permanent, but if it is, it better not look like that. It seriously needs some bulk.

[CoolCzech]

:previous: Yep

I still can't fathom that the spire change will be permanent, but if it is, it better not look like that. It seriously needs some bulk.

I refuse to believe that some sort of new design won't be proposed.

[NYguy]

http://www.radioworld.com/article/developer-plans-broadcast-spire-for--wtc-in-new-york/213795

Developer Plans Broadcast Spire for 1 WTC in New York

by Randy J. Stine
06.06.2012


The Durst Organization plans to build a broadcast tower at the new One World Trade Center building in lower Manhattan. People familiar with the developments expect the move to affect the transmission plans of some FM radio operators here. Unknown is how dramatically the new platform would change the city’s rooftop leasing landscape. Yet to be determined is whether any of the city’s FM broadcasters will leave their current primary sites at Empire State Building for new rooftop digs or if they will treat the 1 WTC spire primarily as a backup site.

Durst expects its new broadcast center at 1 WTC to generate more than $10 million in rents and fees from broadcasters annually. Upfront capital costs to build the antenna are projected to be approximately $7.4 million, according to the developers. Projected total cost for the new building is now estimated at $3.9 billion, according to the NY Daily News. Durst also operates rooftop broadcast facilities atop 4 Times Square in midtown Manhattan. The development firm is promoting the 1 WTC antenna as the city’s premium broadcast antenna platform. It plans to market both its locations to broadcasters with 1 WTC serving as a primary site with redundant power and 4 Times Square as backup, Durst stated in a press release.

A spokesman for Durst declined to say whether an engineering study has been ordered or completed. As of May, it was not clear whether Durst had begun contacting radio or television broadcasters about the new broadcast facility.

Jim Stagnitto, director of engineering for New York Public Radio, said he believes broadcasters transmitting signals from Empire will take a wait-and-see stance on 1 WTC. “For example, I have not yet seen any engineering studies or financial proposals to present to my managers. Both would have to be compelling before a move downtown would be considered,” said Stagnitto. He also serves on the executive committee of the FM Master Antenna Group at Empire. He pointed to possible short-spacing issues for some broadcasters as a negative for the new rooftop facility at 1 WTC.

[chris123678]

:previous:
There's no more question about it. No more spire/antenna debate.
After reading that article, not only does it look like an antenna, it will be one.
The symbolic 1,776 will just be a number and never a reality for this building.
Cheap bastards wanted money

[tiarae]

Weather permitting...as part of Flag Day & President Obama's visit, watch for a topping out beam to be raised on June 14th.

[NYguy]

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[NYC2ATX]

I have to respectfully disagree.
The Code Nast antenna is the most hideous structure in all of NYC. Whoever is responsible for its installation should be horsewhipped, caned, and then horsewhipped again for uglifying the city.

We're all entitled to our opinions, but I have to respectfully disagree with you here in return. I happen to really like that Conde Nast antenna, it has garnered a strange affection from me over my time as a skyscraper enthusiast. 4 Times Square is a rather awkward structure as it is, but its oddly clipped spire was tremendously weird. The antenna gives it a necessary, more powerful stance against the bombastic, competitive Times Square skyline, and it pairs wonderfully with the Bank of America spire, especially at night. :tup:

[Yankee fan for life]

I doubt 1 wtc will top out in time for Obama's visit.

[Otie]

Weather permitting...as part of Flag Day & President Obama's visit, watch for a topping out beam to be raised on June 14th.

It'll be more interesting to watch everything move faster than usual in order to meet that milestone. :cool:

[eseninobrandon]

ever since announced, i want to see obama in person at the wtc site ^___^

[Trinity2112]

:previous:
There's no more question about it. No more spire/antenna debate.
After reading that article, not only does it look like an antenna, it will be one.
The symbolic 1,776 will just be a number and never a reality for this building.
Cheap bastards wanted money

I think the 1WTC Wikipedia page needs to be updated to include what that ass wipe did to the spire.

[1Boston]

I guess this means that there's no chance for us left, were getting the antenna. I feel like Durst's plan is to have big ugly spires poking the sky of NYC. Anyways, it's crazy to think that this could possibly be topped out in just a week, and have Obama be there. It will definitely be exciting to watch, just wish i could be there.

[NewYorkDominates]

Betting it will be on Flag Day,the day the topping out occurs.

[Zapatan]

:previous:
There's no more question about it. No more spire/antenna debate.
After reading that article, not only does it look like an antenna, it will be one.
The symbolic 1,776 will just be a number and never a reality for this building.
Cheap bastards wanted money

I'm almost just as angry at Childs and the PA, they were given the opportunity to redesign and didn't, does anyone have the answer as to why? I would love to know.

[Zapatan]

This one claims the building to still be 1776 feet, I wonder what they have planned :rolleyes:

http://www.radioworld.com/article/developer-plans-broadcast-spire-for--wtc-in-new-york/213795

[CarlosV]

Almost ...


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[NYguy]

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[sterlippo1]

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this pic just SCREAMS New York! :worship:

[Matt]

Has anyone here actually bothered to contact Childs or Durst to see what is going on... or is it just pointless complaining about there being no hope? I too would love to see a magnificent spire, but don't have enough vested interest (or time) to contact any entity involved with the project.

I challenge anyone and everyone here to contact Childs' firm and/or Durst and get solid information about the "spire"., and remit the information (especially to Childs' firm) that there are hundreds of thousands of people who are shocked and outraged that he isn't doing anything to address the spire issue and work with Durst on an alternate strategy. :tup:

[tiarae]

Betting it will be on Flag Day,the day the topping out occurs.

Weather permitting... the topping out beam IS scheduled to be erected on June 14th. I'm not sure if both topping out beams with be erected that day...2 are supposed be going up for the 2 raising gangs working on top.

[2-TOWERS]

This Pic is Bomb !!!!!!!! has the twin towers looks :cheers:

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[Roadcruiser1]

Just wait till Two World Trade Center is built. Once that happens you can easily tell why One and Two World Trade Center are fraternal twins.

[animatedmartian]

Via Facebook. (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=328700440540534&set=a.133475800063000.32624.109423129134934&type=1&ref=nf)

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[PZelda]

Seriously?! 6/14 is when I get to NYC -- I guess I know what I'm doing as soon as I land! :D This is cool - last time I was here, 1 WTC hit 1000 feet. :)

[sw5710]

Via Facebook. (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=328700440540534&set=a.133475800063000.32624.109423129134934&type=1&ref=nf)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7364/46178632870044054053417.jpg

Wow this is a good one.

[TechTalkGuy]

ccho (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162273725/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7162273725_85575024ca_b.jpg

THAT, my friends, is the result of a highly skilled professional photographer !! :tup:

NYguy (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/member.php?u=167), what camera do you use? :worship:

[tdawg]

I agree, that photo is spectacular.

[NYCLuver]

It isn't his photo, the person who took it is the name above the photo, ccho.

[TechTalkGuy]

:previous: Thanks for the tip! :tup:

[Roadcruiser1]

Also the camera used can be seen on the picture on his Flickr if you looked for it. The camera used is this one: http://www.flickr.com/cameras/canon/eos_5d_mark_ii/

Edit: It's a good camera, but it costs $4,000.

[jd3189]

Just wait till Two World Trade Center is built. Once that happens you can easily tell why One and Two World Trade Center are fraternal twins.

Now you get it. And for all that time you thought I was a TT2 supporter. That classic view of NYC will truly be seen in a new light after the entire WTC is complete.:cheers:

[1Boston]

I have a question that I'm really interested in everyones opinion cause I know what mine is, I think. If you had to choose between the two, would you rather have 1wtc with Durst's antenna, or nothing on top at all(no antenna/spire etc.)?

[RockMont]

[QUOTE=2-TOWERS;5725990]This Pic is Bomb !!!!!!!! has the twin towers looks :cheers:

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I like that middle finger look, with #1 sticking up, the way, so many thought it should have been rebuilt as, right after 9/11. Yes that one is for you al qaeda.

[TechTalkGuy]

:previous: Yep, I agree. The spire gives the middle finger to the terrorists !! :hell:

[CarlosV]

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[CoolCzech]

:previous: Yep, I agree. The spire gives the middle finger to the terrorists !! :hell:

Yeah, the original spire design would have. The new Durst thing will give the finger to New Yorkers and America.

[TechTalkGuy]

Yeah, the original spire design would have. The new Durst thing will give the finger to New Yorkers and America.

Never say never!
Maybe they'll reconsider? :rolleyes:

[chris123678]

I seriously doubt that this building will top out on the 14th.
The floors the are doing now are 104, and 105, and the parapet is another jump.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
So how will the parapet be built?

[WTCman7301]

I seriously doubt that this building will top out on the 14th.
The floors the are doing now are 104, and 105, and the parapet is another jump.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
So how will the parapet be built?

I totally agree. How can they finish this building by next Thursday? Hope somebody can answer that.

[Tru Bert]

I totally agree. How can they finish this building by next Thursday? Hope somebody can answer that.

You never know! They raised the steel and cocoon in like 3 days. So maybe they can do the last steel raise and start the parapet by next Friday maybe? It's just a idea.

[pnapp1]

i totally agree. How can they finish this building by next thursday? Hope somebody can answer that.

no way!

[Yankee fan for life]

I have a question that I'm really interested in everyones opinion cause I know what mine is, I think. If you had to choose between the two, would you rather have 1wtc with Durst's antenna, or nothing on top at all(no antenna/spire etc.)?

As much as i don't like the antenna i rather have it then nothing at all in my opinion .

[2-TOWERS]

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carlos they are just kicking ass..... one more lift... Great pic man :tup:

[jd3189]

I have a question that I'm really interested in everyones opinion cause I know what mine is, I think. If you had to choose between the two, would you rather have 1wtc with Durst's antenna, or nothing on top at all(no antenna/spire etc.)?

I would have to choose nothing. Although I really believe that something has to be the crown of this tower, if it has to be that excuse of a "spire", then forget it.

[chris123678]

I'll take the antenna.As hideous as it may be, this building wouldn't look like without one.

[Sam Hill]

Those pics are gorgeous! I just decided I'm going to visit NYC this summer.

[NYC GUY]

Even though I like the original spire I'd rather take Durst's spire than nothing. Although I'm hoping they can compromise on a new spire design.

[NYC GUY]

Saw this rendering of 1WTC during the day.http://onewtc.com/leasing/images/daytime-view-from-w-downtown-hotel

http://onewtc.com/upload/leasing/gallery/large/1WTC_DayViewfromWHotel.jpg

[IntoTheLens827]

:D This Is What One World Trade Center Looked Like One Year Ago At This Day In Time. Now Look At What We Got Now A Year Later! :tup: :cheers:

I made this a quick "homemade video update" last year & put it together very fast. I did work on other video updates simular to this video in other months in the year 2011 & into 2012 but since took the videos down. (I am working on reposting ALL OF THE VIDEOS I did at the New World Trade Center Site. I am planning on doing a New World Trade Center Update @ The WTC In The Near Future. Summer 2012, Late June or In July sometime).:)

MY LAST YEARS VIDEO LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BALA5ZOTMzo

[NewYorkDominates]

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Holy crap,if look closely the decking has been layed on the right portion.They're going full throttle on this last couple of floors.

[YankeesfaninUT]

Has anyone here actually bothered to contact Childs or Durst to see what is going on... or is it just pointless complaining about there being no hope? I too would love to see a magnificent spire, but don't have enough vested interest (or time) to contact any entity involved with the project.

I challenge anyone and everyone here to contact Childs' firm and/or Durst and get solid information about the "spire"., and remit the information (especially to Childs' firm) that there are hundreds of thousands of people who are shocked and outraged that he isn't doing anything to address the spire issue and work with Durst on an alternate strategy. :tup:

I received an email about 3 weeks ago from Jordan Barowitz of the Durst Organization. From what he told me it sounded like it was pretty much a done deal. They discussed the radome back in January and asked for a redesign then. SOM stood by their design. Whether that's the truth or not I dont know. I also sent emails out to the Mayor, Governor, the Port Authority and the President. I could not find any email info for David Childs though. The Durst Organization was the only one who responded.

[599GTO]

In addition to looking cheap, this building looks so short and fat now. Doesn't look particularly tall or anywhere near its 4 billion price tag. It's crazy how a "tweak" changed the look of the building so dramatically.

In any case, we're stuck with this anchoring the Downtown NY skyline for...forever. All the new buildings seem to be happening in Midtown.

[TechTalkGuy]

:previous: It's the tallest building in the city. :cheers:

[sbarn]

In addition to looking cheap, this building looks so short and fat now. It doesn't even look all too impressive in person.

In any case, we're stuck with this anchoring the Downtown NY skyline for a long time. All the new buildings seem to be happening in Midtown.

I was out in Brooklyn last weekend and from there, this building looks absolutely massive. It towers over everything around it. You can complain about the aesthetics (although I personally like the building), but I really don't know how you can call it "short".

[YankeesfaninUT]

I have a question that I'm really interested in everyones opinion cause I know what mine is, I think. If you had to choose between the two, would you rather have 1wtc with Durst's antenna, or nothing on top at all(no antenna/spire etc.)?

I would rather have the Durst spire then nothing at all. The building would look naked without it. A spire draws your attention upward. It completes a building.

[TechTalkGuy]

:previous: I actually like the climatic rise of One World Trade Center as it tapers it's way to the top.

[599GTO]

:previous: It's the tallest building in the city. :cheers:


I was out in Brooklyn last weekend and from there, this building looks absolutely massive. It towers over everything around it. You can complain about the aesthetics (although I personally like the building), but I really don't know how you can call it "short".


1 WTC is objectively tall I suppose, but something about the old spire made it look taller and gave it more presence. The new tin on the roof looks practically invisible in the daytime.

I wish something very tall rose on this plot but it's obviously too late. I hope something very tall rises somewhere near but Downtown seems...lethargic. Nothing big or impressive happens in the Financial District anymore.

[CarlosV]

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[NYguy]

this building looks so short and fat now. Doesn't look particularly tall

Not true. I'm constantly staring at the building on the skyline (you really can't avoid it because its so big) and I've noticed two things. First, from a distance you really can't see the details or features of the building, and it looks uncannily like one of the originals. Even knowing that was the intent all along, it's still striking. But the other thing is that, when you view it a different angle, because it tapers as it rises, it actually looks taller than the originals on the skyline. Either way you look at it, it dominates Downtown.


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[sterlippo1]

I hope something very tall rises somewhere near but Downtown seems...lethargic. Nothing big or impressive happens in the Financial District anymore.

not sure how you can say this. Look at the change in Downtown since 9/11. The Beekman, 1WTC, 4WTC, 7WTC, GS, Beekman, WHotel, Barclay, and 2 WTC, 3WTC and 30 Park Place on the way. Maybe it doesnt compare to midtown in supertall proposals but there has been plenty happening Downtown, my favorite part of the city:worship:

[tiarae]

Holy crap,if look closely the decking has been layed on the right portion.They're going full throttle on this last couple of floors.

The ironworkers have been working 10hr days and are working both Saturday & Sunday this weekend...June 14th is coming quick.

[pnapp1]

... my favorite part of the city:worship:

As it is mine as well. :tup:

[JerseyCowboy]

From Weehawken, NJ last night.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregranft/7351362570/

And here it is in a crappy picture peeking around the corner on 6th Ave. It's still 3.4 miles away, yet it still looks so huge.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregranft/7351374212/

Links might not work, just open it in a new tab if so...

[bunky]

There was a truckload of steel on Barclay st. waiting to go into the site this morning. Seems like a rapid flurry of activity near the end.

[uaarkson]

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1WTC vs. Trump Soho, Awesome cladding vs. awful cladding.

[Yankee fan for life]

In addition to looking cheap, this building looks so short and fat now. Doesn't look particularly tall or anywhere near its 4 billion price tag. It's crazy how a "tweak" changed the look of the building so dramatically.

In any case, we're stuck with this anchoring the Downtown NY skyline for...forever. All the new buildings seem to be happening in Midtown.

I guarantee you if the new antenna was the original antenna you would not have think 1 wtc look cheap, guess the change was for the best it will now blend in with all the other antennas and from the new renderings i just saw the antenna is starting to grow on me now and, as for it being short you have not obviously seen 1 wtc in person.

[NewYorkDominates]

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7WTC is closer and around 750',yet it looks like a small-sized building due to 1WTC massive size.

[meh_cd]

I received an email about 3 weeks ago from Jordan Barowitz of the Durst Organization. From what he told me it sounded like it was pretty much a done deal. They discussed the radome back in January and asked for a redesign then. SOM stood by their design. Whether that's the truth or not I dont know. I also sent emails out to the Mayor, Governor, the Port Authority and the President. I could not find any email info for David Childs though. The Durst Organization was the only one who responded.

The same guy from Durst responded to a couple other forum members on here and elsewhere with the exact same response. It sounds like they have a form letter typed up for people contacting them about the spire.

Re: 1 WTC's height, people should also keep in mind that the new 7 WTC is 130 feet taller than the original 7 WTC, which along with the GS HQ across the street helps to make 1 WTC look smaller than it actually is when compared to the original WTC.

[bunky]

Looks like there's been a crane jump

[Yankee fan for life]

Look how huge the twins look back in 1973 before the world financial buildings where built ,it is the same effect that 7 wtc and Goldman Sachs is giving to 1 wtc.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9kCG9suNo&feature=related

[NYguy]

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[CarlosV]

:) more glass is going up, another floor! on a beautiful spring day in NYC.

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