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Stephen Ave
Jan 16, 2007, 7:09 PM
The newest rendering for Centuria. This would be built right across the street from Haultain park, with Union Square being at the opposite end of the park.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5267/centuria02xs7.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2848/centuria04au8.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4767/centuria05am4.jpg

Stephen Ave
Jan 16, 2007, 7:13 PM
I love terraced apartment buildings, so this is right up my alley. :)

Being right on Haultain park, the terraces would be awesome.

Coldrsx
Jan 16, 2007, 7:17 PM
the consensus is that we dont need another fucking poll seperate from the calgary thread.

CMD UW
Jan 16, 2007, 7:19 PM
/\ Hahahaha.....I concur.

I think it's a nice looking project. However, what materials will be used and colours.

Stephen Ave
Jan 16, 2007, 7:21 PM
the consensus is that we dont need another fucking poll seperate from the calgary thread.

Are you paying for this site?

The reason the polls are here, is because you can't add polls in the Calgary Construction thread. If nobody votes on these polls, I won't add them any more.

Bigtime
Jan 16, 2007, 7:22 PM
Does that spoiler on the roof help the building keep on the ground in high winds or something? ;)

I like the look, materials and finish will be the key!

Coldrsx
Jan 16, 2007, 7:23 PM
Are you paying for this site?

The reason the polls are here, is because you can't add polls in the Calgary Construction thread. If nobody votes on these polls, I won't add them any more.

polls schmols

last time i checked discussion was more telling than a "yes" or "no" or "maybe"

Surrealplaces
Jan 16, 2007, 7:25 PM
I'd like to see what the materials look like, but I still voted it a great looking project. The right height for that location, and terraced balconies are always good.

Surrealplaces
Jan 16, 2007, 7:27 PM
the consensus is that we dont need another fucking poll seperate from the calgary thread.

I don't see what tha big deal is, isn't this what the forum is for??

Wooster
Jan 16, 2007, 7:27 PM
I like the polls. Why the hell not? What better things do we have to discuss on this site? I'd rather have this than what is going on in the Edmonton Construction thread of late - a whole lot of bitching.

Anyway. I like this project. Really, really good location, set on two parks! I also love terracing on buildings. It looks stumpy of course, but it is a break from the typical podium/point tower formula. Sometimes site restrictions can force some more creative disigns (see the Sandcrawler for instance).

The ground level stuff is perfect for its residential setting. I like the increased scale of the podium too. Best example of a residential podium yet in Calgary. Like all other projects though, the final product will depend so largely on material selection. From what I've read in their proposal material, it is of very high quality.

Habanero
Jan 16, 2007, 7:43 PM
the consensus is that we dont need another fucking poll seperate from the calgary thread.

You gotta be kidding me? Who made you minister of propaganda??

I would think that on the Edmonton thread, the consensus would be that we don't another fucking post that read 'I wish Edmonton had this' or 'Imagine this being built in Edmonton', etc.....

P.S. Keep putting up these polls, I like'em.

entheosfog
Jan 16, 2007, 7:49 PM
You gotta be kidding me? Who made you minister of propaganda??

I would think that on the Edmonton thread, the consensus would be that we don't another fucking post that read 'I wish Edmonton had this' or 'Imagine this being built in Edmonton', etc.....

P.S. Keep putting up these polls, I like'em.

Yeah, seriously, what's the harm? Don't read them if you don't like em!

Coldrsx
Jan 16, 2007, 7:52 PM
ill read them and bitch everytime

MichaelS
Jan 16, 2007, 7:55 PM
I really like this project. Not only will it look great, but it will also be a different look from all the tall sleek glass towers in the area (not that they are bad either). I would also love to have one of those terrace units, but imagine that would involve a lottery win of some kind on my part. Any guesses as to what their asking prices are?

PS. I also like these polls. They are titled so people know exactly what they are, and if you don't want to read a poll about another Calgary project, don't read it.

Just Build It
Jan 16, 2007, 8:05 PM
I voted 'great project' although I haven't seen the colors yet. IMO it's a great building for that spot. Nice big balconies and terraces. With Colors and Union ging up across the way, we are going to see a major evolution for that area.

@StephevAve: Not to be picky, but the front of the building actually faces onto the Central Park and not Haultain park.

@Coldsrx: Umm, the polls are marked clearly so that forumers from other cities don't accidentally read the thread and get traumatized or whatever. I like these polls and hope they keep getting posted.

@StephenAve: Keep posting these polls!

The Chemist
Jan 16, 2007, 8:08 PM
I love the curves and the terracing. I think it's great. :tup:

IntotheWest
Jan 16, 2007, 8:11 PM
ill read them and bitch everytime

Why not post polls for Edmonton developments?

Along with the explanation of not being able to conduct polls in the Calgary Dev thread, I think it's a good opportunity to "poll" other than Calgarians who may otherwise not look at the lengthy Calgary Dev posts.

EDIT: I voted pretty good...I'll reserve judgement for a rendering with the colours/textures showing. But, it is more unique than the original design.

Coldrsx
Jan 16, 2007, 8:12 PM
^reason is, we would be posting only one option to choose, "not good enough"

:>

Just Build It
Jan 16, 2007, 8:14 PM
Why not post polls for Edmonton developments?

Along with the explanation of not being able to conduct polls in the Calgary Dev thread, I think it's a good opportunity to "poll" other opinions from outside Calgarians who may otherwise not look at the lengthy Calgary Dev posts.

Well put. One of the other reasons I like the polls, is that the Calgary thread moves at a rapid pace. If you miss a couple of days, you're like 4 or 5 pages behind. In the past I've missed new renderings because of that.

CorporateWhore
Jan 16, 2007, 8:29 PM
For those requesting a color/material image, here's one from the previous version of the tower. It should be more ore less the same on those two fronts.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3033/centuriaks1.jpg

Personally, I think this is a pretty solid project. I would like to see more in this ilk around the city, but with a bigger retail component on he bottom....such as a grocery store.

Bigtime
Jan 16, 2007, 8:32 PM
Well put. One of the other reasons I like the polls, is that the Calgary thread moves at a rapid pace. If you miss a couple of days, you're like 4 or 5 pages behind. In the past I've missed new renderings because of that.

Agreed, I was just gone from Thursday evening to Monday afternoon and had to go through 4 new pages in the Calgary thread, and I display more posts than the default setting!

WhipperSnapper
Jan 16, 2007, 8:55 PM
nice

simple & straightforward

would look better 10 storeys taller though

tokama
Jan 16, 2007, 9:16 PM
Very nice design. I particularly like the tiering of the upper levels - makes it more interesting for the eye. Really suits that area at that height. Although I have to agree with goodlookin' a few more stories would have been nice. Hopefully it won't be outrageously priced.

Bigtime
Jan 16, 2007, 9:19 PM
Hopefully it won't be outrageously priced.

:haha: I only wish! I wonder if those big upper level deck units will fetch around the $800-$1000 a sq.ft?

Calgarian
Jan 16, 2007, 9:35 PM
the consensus is that we dont need another fucking poll seperate from the calgary thread.

If you are so opposed to such polls, why bother even clicking on it?

Coldrsx
Jan 16, 2007, 9:38 PM
If you are so opposed to such polls, why bother even clicking on it?


just because i dont like JD doesnt mean i dont drink it.

SteveP
Jan 16, 2007, 9:50 PM
I voted -pretty good- for this project, mostly because I really don't know what it'll be like until we see more on the materials.

The podium is excellent though, the flat stone/brick pieces look great, not faux historical, but rather a modern look instead. I would like to see this about 5 stories higher, but the height as is, is good enough. Potential to be a great tower.

* Just wanted to go on record as saying that I like these polls. I actually look forward to them, it's the only way to get a good idea of what everyone thinks. Just like the poll says, it's a consensus.

jeffwhit
Jan 16, 2007, 10:59 PM
Great to see a development like this starting to fill up the "inner" streets of the beltline. All the activity has been on the main roads.

Western Spaghetti
Jan 16, 2007, 10:59 PM
Looks good to me. Is it just me or are the recent proposals getting better all the time?

This is one of those buildings that will be intriguing until it's half built, and then everyone will be disappointed or pleasantly surprised. I'm betting pleasantly surprised.

Western Spaghetti
Jan 16, 2007, 11:07 PM
the consensus is that we dont need another fucking poll seperate from the calgary thread.

Actually I like these polls, what we don't need is someone complaining about them for no constructive reason. What's the downside of having these things? There is none.

feepa
Jan 16, 2007, 11:13 PM
Coldrsx is just jealous this project or similar is not going on in Edmonton. I know I am. Take his complaint as appreciation of a building he wishes was in Edmonton.

Anyways, Flames suck, polls suck, I'm jealous, *dances around in a circle*

entheosfog
Jan 16, 2007, 11:25 PM
We should do a another poll on how many people like having these polls about new Calgary developments.

Doug
Jan 17, 2007, 5:38 AM
I love the curves and the terracing. I think it's great. :tup:

Agreed.

That area is undergoing a complete transformation with Chocolate, Colors, the two Union Station Towers, Hotel Arts, refurbishment of Central and Haultain Parks and now Centuria.

Surrealplaces
Jan 17, 2007, 6:00 AM
We should do a another poll on how many people like having these polls about new Calgary developments.

Sounds like a plan, So far it seems like the people against it are from the Edmonton side.

Do you want to spearhead the poll? If you do the poll make it the same as this one where you can see who voted for what option. :)

Reesonov
Jan 17, 2007, 6:03 AM
Impressive design. The only real complaint I have is the roof element, which seems rather useless and contrived. Otherwise it looks like first rate work. And yes, I'm pretty sure if I owned one of those terrace units at the top, with the view and the park, I could convince some girls to come to one of my parties. You can't put a price on that.

Bad Grizzly
Jan 17, 2007, 6:20 AM
Great looking project imho. Nice to see a tower that terraces off toward the top. This is one tower I really hope gets done, it would really be a boost to an already booming area. I'm curious as to what the materials would be though.

ReginaGuy
Jan 17, 2007, 7:18 AM
I really like it. Looks like theres good opportunity for some large outdoor gardens or balconies on the upper floors

Bokimon
Jan 17, 2007, 7:29 AM
Awesome building. Sure I would like it even more if it had a bit more on the height like the original posted by Josh. Because then the main features of this design would really show in the skyline. Having that very profile for a 31 story version, man It would be outstanding.

But this version is also good and I really like the design. I hope that colour version will come out soon but the old renderings do sorta gimme an idea.
I like it and IBI Group has created a project which is going to start getting noticed by other firms and the city itself. Nicely Done!

Bokimon
Jan 17, 2007, 7:31 AM
Also it reminds me of the St Germain/Grenville with their terraced condo building with the green roofs that sits ontop of the other two masses.

Habanero
Jan 17, 2007, 8:28 AM
Awesome design, this is one of the most exciting designs to hit cowtown. Who are the developers behind it? How is their track record?

Bassic Lab
Jan 17, 2007, 8:53 AM
I can't give a real opinion until we get a proper rendering instead of just the massing but I must say I really like what I see. The way it meets the street should really be the standard for projects in the purely residential areas of the Beltline. It's definately a great improvement over Montana's lawn. The tower portion is also a nice change from the tall slender biuldings we've been getting, some diversity in the massings of biuldings will make the neighborhood much more interesting.

As for the loss of even more rental units, I think it might be time to require developers to replace some of the affordable rental stock they keep destroying. That or the city could demand that a certain percentage of units be turned over to the city's housing authority from each development. Something definately must be done about the situation.

CorporateWhore
Jan 17, 2007, 2:11 PM
Coldrsx is just jealous this project or similar is not going on in Edmonton. I know I am. Take his complaint as appreciation of a building he wishes was in Edmonton.


ah, so that's why you voted this project as awful? ;)

niwell
Jan 17, 2007, 3:30 PM
It's excellent. I love the larger podium combined with the massing and setbacks. Pretty much my idea of a great project, especially if some nice retail gets in the bottom. I'd actually say I'm glad it's not taller, I don't think I'd like a beltline comprised solely of point towers.

Wooster
Jan 17, 2007, 3:54 PM
^There won't be retail. It is in the most residential of residential areas within the neighbourhood. Townhouses are the most apporporiate here. However, retail is just a short block away on 1st Street SW.

Surferguy
Jan 17, 2007, 4:47 PM
Agreed.

That area is undergoing a complete transformation with Chocolate, Colors, the two Union Station Towers, Hotel Arts, refurbishment of Central and Haultain Parks and now Centuria.


And with it goes my property value!!!!

Surrealplaces
Jan 17, 2007, 4:56 PM
Agreed.

That area is undergoing a complete transformation with Chocolate, Colors, the two Union Station Towers, Hotel Arts, refurbishment of Central and Haultain Parks and now Centuria.

I forgot about Hotel arts. Centuria, looks to be a great place to buy into. So many upsides to it.

Arriviste
Jan 17, 2007, 5:11 PM
I'm a dumbass and actually voted not great. I intended to give it a better grade. Anyway, I'm really feeling the terracing. I'm all for terracing, in fact I'm all for more green terracing in skyscrapers along the lines of Ken Yeang.
I'll provide links.
The materials look alright also. I think if it were twice as high, and had some pretty detailed terracing allt he way up it would be incredible. However, for the location this height as others have said is appropriate.

Tokyo Nara Tower, Yeang, 1994:
http://www.thecityreview.com/arcnowg.jpg

Menara Mesiniaga, Kuala Lumpur, Yeang, 1994:
http://www.byggbrigaden.se/upload/byggbrigaden/artiklar/yeang/MenaraMesiniaga1.jpg

Project for Elephant Castle, London, Yeang, Ongoing:
http://ciepfa.posgrado.unam.mx/congresobioclimatico/yeang1.JPG

Terracing can be amazing. I hope we see more of it. Once again it goes back to Corbu's 5 points. not that I am some Corbu freak, I do have serious respect for Mr. Jeanneret, and feel his five points are quite valid, but need variation beyod his vision.

Zilla
Jan 17, 2007, 5:32 PM
^There won't be retail. It is in the most residential of residential areas within the neighbourhood. Townhouses are the most apporporiate here. However, retail is just a short block away on 1st Street SW.

I agree, but at the same time corner coffee shop would not be inappropriate here a the nexus of Central Memorial and Haultain parks. There is commercial in the heritage brick buildings a block south, even deeper into the primarily residential area. I suspect that if the Western Hospital house south of Centuria survives the redevelopment pressure it will wind up a restaurant as the area improves. Great big porch with a view of Haultain park.

AUM
Jan 17, 2007, 5:43 PM
My only comment on this one for now is that I wish we could get away from the brick podium glass tower model. This project is in the Beltline and not the Warehouse district so it would be nice to see the building to exude a completely contemporary aesthetic.

ReginaGuy
Jan 17, 2007, 5:49 PM
Tokyo Nara Tower, Yeang, 1994:
http://www.thecityreview.com/arcnowg.jpg


I wouldn't live in that, I'd be afraid of the thing collapsing!

Wooster
Jan 17, 2007, 5:55 PM
My only comment on this one for now is that I wish we could get away from the brick podium glass tower model. This project is in the Beltline and not the Warehouse district so it would be nice to see the building to exude a completely contemporary aesthetic.

Doesn't have a brick podium. The base is very contemporary.

AUM
Jan 17, 2007, 6:03 PM
From that color image the base units look to have a brick texture. If it is not then that is great.

Habanero
Jan 17, 2007, 8:31 PM
I've looked at the rendering for this one a few times, and I'm liking it more and more.

This one seems to be liked by all. Not to harp on the issue of polls, but this is exactly why I like them. I really like this building and now I can see that I'm not the only one.

Bad Grizzly
Jan 17, 2007, 11:45 PM
This one rocks. Voted "Great Project" on this one.

Claeren
Jan 18, 2007, 12:24 AM
Does anyone know anything about the developer?

Are they reputable? Do they have a track record?


Claeren.

Zilla
Jan 18, 2007, 1:33 AM
^ Their website lists only this project and one in Kelowna by the same name that is apparently more advanced. Maybe ask someone over in a BC thread... http://www.lpdi.ca/

unibrain
Jan 18, 2007, 1:56 AM
That's a very nice project. There arnt very many residential projects in town that have terraces that make up the top part of the building. They take great sacrifice to have it terraced though. For those buildings that want to build to max density, terracing is often not achievable unless they build higher up, where height may play into the factor depending on the zoning. the higher they go, the more expensive it costs.. let alone they are losing valuable space, as each new floor of terrace will be minus a couple units.

Western Spaghetti
Jan 18, 2007, 4:46 AM
Thanks Stephenave for putting up the poll! This one looks like an overwhelming success, I've never seen so many positive votes for a project before.

WhipperSnapper
Jan 18, 2007, 5:53 AM
http://www.thecityreview.com/arcnowg.jpg

Whose the architect?
Homer J. Simpson?

polishavenger
Jan 18, 2007, 3:31 PM
http://www.thecityreview.com/arcnowg.jpg

Whose the architect?
Homer J. Simpson?


That thing looks like a trash pile.

CorporateWhore
Jan 18, 2007, 4:06 PM
http://www.a2zhobbies.com/pictures/Pol4000.jpg

man, that was one sexy beast.

Habanero
Jan 18, 2007, 5:45 PM
I like the results of this poll. 73 positive and 9 negative. Looks like we have a winner with this one. Even the 9 negative votes, if you look at who voted, it's not surprising at all.

JBinCalgary
Jan 26, 2007, 11:49 PM
i like it

Xelebes
Jan 27, 2007, 12:08 AM
Does that spoiler on the roof help the building keep on the ground in high winds or something? ;)

I like the look, materials and finish will be the key!

Man, of course it will. Do you think it's going to be some poor shit cardboard? Nah, it's high grade cardboard.

It looks pretty good but it looks more like a government office to me. A pretty cool looking government office at that but a government office none the less.

Boris2k7
Jan 27, 2007, 12:27 AM
Man, of course it will. Do you think it's going to be some poor shit cardboard? Nah, it's high grade cardboard.

It looks pretty good but it looks more like a government office to me. A pretty cool looking government office at that but a government office none the less.

Pffft... I'll show you what a real government office looks like...

Harry Hays Building
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3865/dscn1808ww3.jpg

Xelebes
Jan 27, 2007, 12:31 AM
Pffft... I'll show you what a real government office looks like...

Harry Hays Building
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3865/dscn1808ww3.jpg

That's what I am talking about, brotha'.

Sammy
Jan 27, 2007, 4:25 AM
Does anyone know anything about the developer?

Are they reputable? Do they have a track record?


Claeren.


The people involved with LP have alot of experience and are reputable.

trueviking
Jan 27, 2007, 5:55 AM
i really like the massing, but i hope they have more finesse with the treatement of the glass than the little colour image shows...a big mass of blue glass would weaken it....coloured glass is so 1998.

it should just be clear glass with aluminum mullions.

Boris2k7
Jan 27, 2007, 5:56 AM
^ There are more colour "renderings" on the front page of the Construction thread. Second post, about three quarters of the way down.

trueviking
Jan 27, 2007, 6:04 AM
^i cant open that page....it makes me weep like a school girl as i am overcome by jealousy and self pitty.

Boris2k7
Jan 27, 2007, 6:08 AM
Oh quit yer bitchin' ;)

Fine, I'll spare you from having to open it again tonight, so here... :)

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/491/centuria07ek4.jpg

trueviking
Jan 27, 2007, 6:20 AM
i'm not sure about the airplane wing at the top...doesnt really seem necessary, but overall it shows promise....i just hope the blue glass is clear in reality.

jeffwhit
Jan 27, 2007, 7:19 AM
It looks pretty good but it looks more like a government office to me. A pretty cool looking government office at that but a government office none the less.

In what country?

Xelebes
Jan 27, 2007, 7:59 AM
In what country?


Canada.

jeffwhit
Jan 27, 2007, 8:14 AM
Canada.

Show me one then.

Wooster
Jan 27, 2007, 4:03 PM
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I agree with Xelebes. There are all sorts of government buidings that have townhouses, balconies and terraces. :sly:

Xelebes
Jan 27, 2007, 4:42 PM
I'm talking about in a vague fashion. It looks vaguely like Canada Place in Edmonton.

ExcaliburKid
Jan 29, 2007, 7:48 PM
After seeing color renderings, it appears they are simply transplanting the rear end of a cruise ship

mjl
Feb 1, 2007, 11:17 PM
Hey guys I work for LPDI, Thanks for the positive feedback. The roof wings are going to be solar panels and the glass will be more transparant. The building was originally taller but got bumped down in the planning dept. We are looking forward to launching this in May. Stay tunned..

jeffwhit
Feb 1, 2007, 11:26 PM
Awesome! I'm glad the wings have a specific purpose, especially that one. Thanks so much for posting.