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Coldrsx
01-16-2007, 08:24 PM
Instead of more bitching due to my PMS today, i thought i would be constructive.

If you could build 1 and i mean only 1 thing in your current city....what would it be, where would it be, if you have a design post it/create it, but also defend why you would build it. Either be it a fantasy " i want it" here or a more realistic "we should have this/we need this here".

I know we all have some really good ideas out there and given the $ and chance, we would all become developers.

well, for now, here is that chance.

Im excited to see what we all would do
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IntotheWest
01-16-2007, 08:36 PM
A more central and larger farmers market...At Eau Claire or Stampede-area (I think this will happen eventually anyway).

An art gallery similar to Van's Art Gallery in downtown.

Also, I would also take away a couple things...the building of the ring-road around Calgary, and Chinook Centre's expansion (as much as I'm dragged to that mall...the "mall that ate Calgary").

Coldrsx
01-16-2007, 08:48 PM
for me....Edmonton...it would have to be a new signature complex.

-41 storey hotel/condo
-31 storey office

basically a large mixed use iconic complex similar to a wall centre i suppose.

It would be located on the commonwealth lands (100ave/102 to 103st) and have a significant skyline impact, provide much needed office, hotel, and condo space.

Secondary impacts would be the entertainment mix in this with 3-4 name brand restaurants and an oiler themed sports bar.

WHY?

Edmonton needs a soild icononic mixed use project in the core to bring more life into it. We need more excitement both architecturally and from a visitor/worker/resident standpoint. We need more places to go, more places to attract, and more density.

something similar to this kinda thing:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Trump.jpg

http://63.240.68.122/FirmFiles/95/images/FINAL%2DRincon%2D0602132%2Ejpg

Surferguy
01-16-2007, 08:49 PM
an indoor surf park in calgary. maybe on the site of the car lots on bow trail west... yah that would be nice. include an area with an outdoor beach for the summertime...

http://www.surfparks.com

thank about it!!!

Distill3d
01-16-2007, 08:52 PM
personally, its not just one thing i would build, its a few, but it would have to start with one very good idea. A retractable roofed, multipurpose stadium, seating roughly anywhere from 50,000 - 65,000 people. i would move the Stampeders in, and try and attract a major league soccer and/or baseball team to the city. of course, the option of "outdoor" concerts would also help with justifying the need for such a stadium.

I would locate it in the Stampede Park area of the city so that it would be close to the downtown core, and easily reached by public transportation. Included in the stadium design would be a 15 - 20 floor hotel, retail shopping center, and a sports hall of fame/museum. as well as links to the current sports infrastructure (IE: Saddledome). I would also attempt to have an obeservation tower attached to the design (similar to the Olympic Stadium in MTL).

though i don't have a design for the stadium at the moment, i do have a map of where i would put this facility (the area for the facility highlighted in the black rectangle):

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/proposal1.jpg

of course, it is only a wish. I'm sure i could render up a design for a future post.

SteveP
01-16-2007, 08:53 PM
I'd like to see a 60+ floor office tower in the space owned by Imperial Oil.

An art Gallery and a new library. A new library is in the works...but when?

The Chemist
01-16-2007, 09:05 PM
A more central and larger farmers market...At Eau Claire or Stampede-area (I think this will happen eventually anyway).

An art gallery similar to Van's Art Gallery in downtown.

Also, I would also take away a couple things...the building of the ring-road around Calgary, and Chinook Centre's expansion (as much as I'm dragged to that mall...the "mall that ate Calgary").

Why would you get rid of the ring road? Even a lot of European cities with high transit usage have orbital motorways. The ring road would remove a lot of truck traffic that is passing through the city off of Glenmore, Deerfoot, and 16th Avenue, as far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing.

For me:

The Redevelopment of the East Village, including the U of C's urban campus would be the top of my list of things to build.

h0twired
01-16-2007, 09:30 PM
personally, its not just one thing i would build, its a few, but it would have to start with one very good idea. A retractable roofed, multipurpose stadium, seating roughly anywhere from 50,000 - 65,000 people. i would move the Stampeders in, and try and attract a major league soccer and/or baseball team to the city. of course, the option of "outdoor" concerts would also help with justifying the need for such a stadium.

I would locate it in the Stampede Park area of the city so that it would be close to the downtown core, and easily reached by public transportation. Included in the stadium design would be a 15 - 20 floor hotel, retail shopping center, and a sports hall of fame/museum. as well as links to the current sports infrastructure (IE: Saddledome). I would also attempt to have an obeservation tower attached to the design (similar to the Olympic Stadium in MTL).

though i don't have a design for the stadium at the moment, i do have a map of where i would put this facility (the area for the facility highlighted in the black rectangle):

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/proposal1.jpg

of course, it is only a wish. I'm sure i could render up a design for a future post.

You are going to need land that is twice as wide as your rectangle.

McMahon Staduim is 2x wider than the Saddledome.

Generally a 40,000 seat stadium will take up 4x more space than a 15,000 seat arena.

Wooster
01-16-2007, 09:43 PM
If it has to be one thing. It would be a public art gallery. It is the biggest missing piece in Calgary in terms of civic buildings. An intersting site would be Louise Crossing.

Kevin_foster
01-16-2007, 09:45 PM
Id like to see Edmonton's West Downtown Mirror itself on the east side of down town. We need condos that surround the true core - and then plop a few 40 storey office towers in the very middle. :)

Currently, from the South looking North, our skyline looks like this:


(ask anyone, that is pretty much dead accurate :>)http://www.downwithrobots.com/uploads/store/edmon_dt.JPG

IntotheWest
01-16-2007, 10:17 PM
Why would you get rid of the ring road? Even a lot of European cities with high transit usage have orbital motorways. The ring road would remove a lot of truck traffic that is passing through the city off of Glenmore, Deerfoot, and 16th Avenue, as far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing.


Well, that is why Glenmore is being expanded right now - and a lot of that truck traffic is coming from the east side of the city, needing to get through to the west...so they'll continue to use that route.

I think a ring-road - or any additional freeway expansion will first give more excuse to move further out. I'll admit, I'm no expert, but that's just what I think will happen - if I'm wrong, great.:)

I think the money (and attention by the city) could be better focused right now.

Distill3d
01-16-2007, 10:18 PM
(ask anyone, that is pretty much dead accurate :>)http://www.downwithrobots.com/uploads/store/edmon_dt.JPG

yep. thats about right. :tup: :haha: :haha:

CorporateWhore
01-16-2007, 10:27 PM
I would like to see a European-style tram network that is integrated into the main people-streets of Calgary...easily accessible (unlike the LRT at times). Mount Royal, Beltline, Bridgeland, Marda Loop, Inglewood, Eau Claire, 4th St, could all be connected.

http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/TPG_Geneva/Tram_New-20040804-01.jpg
http://www2.chem.elte.hu/gigant_club/pic/hu/special/tram/dbvill.jpg

that, and about 200,000 trees, and a ban on tan.

Distill3d
01-16-2007, 10:32 PM
You are going to need land that is twice as wide as your rectangle.

McMahon Staduim is 2x wider than the Saddledome.

Generally a 40,000 seat stadium will take up 4x more space than a 15,000 seat arena.

well hey, i mean if we can include the new Stampede Casino and the Arriva towers in the design of this building, lets do it.

i took a look at McMahon on google earth only after i posted this. obviously this idea of a multipurpose stadium would have to take up twice the space. so i made few revisions to the idea (still no rendering yet):

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/proposal2.jpg

IntotheWest
01-16-2007, 10:37 PM
that, and about 200,000 trees.

Yes, I change my mind....landscaping is what Calgary desperately needs - not necessarily trees, but beautifying the streets better would go a long way.

I was shocked back in October that one of the largest trees on 11th Ave - a block west of the Mustard Seed (in front of Mac's) was cut down...it always looked a little out of place being the only large tree around.

jeffwhit
01-16-2007, 10:54 PM
I'm split between a major art museum and a streetcar/tram network.

freeweed
01-16-2007, 10:56 PM
A 1000m tower, like the Calgary or CN tower, but much much taller.

1. I'm all for things that define a skyline so well that every location shot has it in it.

2. The mountains from a kilometer up look awesome. I'm a "take glass elevator up just to admire the view" freak.

3. It would be higher than the CN.

4. It would be the tallest structure in North America.

5. It's just COOL.

Beltliner
01-16-2007, 11:03 PM
I think a ring-road - or any additional freeway expansion will first give more excuse to move further out. I'll admit, I'm no expert, but that's just what I think will happen - if I'm wrong, great.:)

The Stoney Trail ring road is probably a necessary evil, given the commercial lorry traffic in this town, but by rights we should go the whole hog and implement a collector-express system with ETR tolling for the express lanes. Why should we poor suffering C-Train advocates have all to ourselves the fun of having to justify how our transport system pays its own way?

entheosfog
01-16-2007, 11:41 PM
Hmmm...
- How about a large, new apartment rental tower, complete with 'reasonable' rents? ;)
- a large book store or movie theatre in the Beltline, as well as more coffee shops (besides Starbucks!) and late-night diners
- a subway system downtown
- a couple new hospitals complete with enough staff to staff them
just a few things that came to mind in the span of a minute or so...

Boreal
01-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I'll stick with the realistic approach...

Either the Canadian Museum for Human Rights at the north eastern bank of the Forks as I'm sure all of you are very aware of (the current proposal ...all $310 million worth).

OR

Recreate to a queue the Buffalo City Hall ...if for no other reason then I think to some extent it wouldn't look 100% out of place in Winnipeg, and most importantly, it is my favourite building in the world.

http://pluto.fss.buffalo.edu/classes/eco/sb56/City%20Hall%203.JPG
Buffalo City Hall in all its glory :D

1ajs
01-16-2007, 11:44 PM
build a 30 story condo tower on the old ogilive flower mill site..

or exstention of the river walk system around the point of pointdouglas all the way up to kildolan park

HomeInMyShoes
01-17-2007, 12:02 AM
For Edmonton, I'd build the NorthEast LRT line starting from around Corona and going straight up the empty lots around Boston Pizza downtown to Grant MacEwan and then to NAIT and off to St. Albert city centre. Along with the LRT around Boston Pizza (linked to Corona station) they could build a couple block park and then fill around on the East and North sides of the park with condos and mixed use street level.

It would be great to hit the Arden Theatre for shows using the LRT and being able to get back to downtown without cars to your condo living. My pipe dream hope is that by removing a few surface parking lots the land value in the core increases and spurs taller development for the core as well as spurring St. Albert as a third major TOD area to go with downtown and Century Park.

Blood PuP
01-17-2007, 12:04 AM
I want the area on the west side of downtown used for something other than auto dealerships, bus depots, and roads.

Move bow trail back away from the river bank and get it out of the way, preferably run it under the development somehow. The riverbank could have a nice boardwalk area withs restaurants, bars, retail and parkland. Behind the riverbank area put a funky residential development. I am thinking something like Habitat '67 but a little more modern and bigger.

shreddog
01-17-2007, 12:49 AM
Well a number of my desires for Calgary have already been articulated, so I'll have to reach a bit ...

... In a fit of vote buying, the Provincial gov't grants MRC full uni status and gives them 3 B $ to develop into a leading Liberal Arts School. MRC decides to relocate their campus DT and aquires all the land east of Arriva and North of the Stampede expansion, incl the bus barns. (See post #14)

Over the next 5 years, MRC builds a great campus that is also connected to both the new UofC DT campus and ACAD via the new 4th st underpass creating an academia ghetto.

The new SE LRT runs right through the campus, then on to Inglewood/Ramsay helping both those areas further evolve into Calgary's bohemian 'hoods.

shreddog
01-17-2007, 01:00 AM
^^ Okay, now I'm pushing it.

Just to finish filling the cultural gaps, as a downtown "bookend" to Josh's Art Gallery/Museum at Louise Crossing, the Homeless Shelter on 4th Ave SE is converted into Calgary's Museum of Modern Art.

Riise
01-17-2007, 04:18 AM
As much as I love trams, TODs, mixed-use buildings and the like, I'd have to go with a Football Park(Soccer Specific Stadium). I've been closely following the development of the game and firmly believe that we are on the wrong development path. I think we have grow the game from the ground up by focusing on developing skill and fondness of the game at the grass roots levels, giving player, that stay, a place to play and supporters a club to support with amateur leagues, and then when we can sustain it, create a professional league. Although there is a lack of proper skill development, I think we have some good infrastructure at the grass roots level and what we need to do next is create the infrastructure for amateur leagues. With that said this is the one thing I'd build:

Imagine a 7,000-8,000 seat football park built as the center peice of a TOD in Firepark (Barlow/Maxbell Station. The actual two-storey stadium would be hidden as it would be surrounded by retail and be accessible via three minor entrances and one grand. The park would be modeled architecturally after Wembley as well as size wise after Nene Park in Irthlingborough, UK and SAS Arena in Herning, Denmark.


Nene Park
Capacity: 6,441

http://ucalgary.ca/~daprevat/nene_01.jpg

http://ucalgary.ca/~daprevat/nene_overhead.jpg

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/rushden22.jpg

360 Degree View (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northamptonshire/360/diamonds_stand.shtml)


SAS Arena
Capacity: 12,500

http://ucalgary.ca/~daprevat/sas_a_02.jpg

http://ucalgary.ca/~daprevat/sas_a_03.jpg

http://ucalgary.ca/~daprevat/sas_a_04.jpg


Here's what my complex would look like:

http://ucalgary.ca/~daprevat/complex.jpg

The Retail could be shops, a cafe, a pub, etc...

Bassic Lab
01-17-2007, 06:55 AM
Well a number of my desires for Calgary have already been articulated, so I'll have to reach a bit ...

... In a fit of vote buying, the Provincial gov't grants MRC full uni status and gives them 3 B $ to develop into a leading Liberal Arts School. MRC decides to relocate their campus DT and aquires all the land east of Arriva and North of the Stampede expansion, incl the bus barns. (See post #14)

Over the next 5 years, MRC builds a great campus that is also connected to both the new UofC DT campus and ACAD via the new 4th st underpass creating an academia ghetto.

The new SE LRT runs right through the campus, then on to Inglewood/Ramsay helping both those areas further evolve into Calgary's bohemian 'hoods.

Why not just a new university that centers on the Liberal Arts, Mount Royal is already biult and we'll always need a public college type school for basic upgrading and verious diploma programs. The current plans to to turn MRC into some kind of quasi university that can grant degrees but does no research is definately flawed. The new school could be called the Calgary School of the Liberal Arts. It would center on the humanities and social sciences, maybe include a fine arts component.

I'd say what I'd do is move ACAD to the old Molson Brewery site with a nice top of the line urban campus. It would have to happen around the same time as the SE LRT. Come to think of it I'd give some of the empty lots along 9th Ave there to the school as well. Kill two birds with one stone, biuld low to midrise dorms with streetfront retail (maybe a nice public gallery to show off student work in one spot) along the road for non-first year students. It would do alot, finally give ACAD its own space (and allow SAIT to expand into the space vacated, which will have to happen sooner or later), fill the gaps along 9th Ave and help Inglewood really take off.

Arriviste
01-17-2007, 05:25 PM
I would hope for an art gallery on the scael of The Guggenheim Museum Bilbao. Of course in a different aesthetic alltogether, but something to really alter the city physically, and culturally.

Maybe something like Vinoly's Center for Performing Arts in Philly.
http://www.hughpearman.com/illustrations3/kimmelcenter8.jpg

chuber
01-17-2007, 05:37 PM
an indoor surf park in calgary. maybe on the site of the car lots on bow trail west... yah that would be nice. include an area with an outdoor beach for the summertime...

http://www.surfparks.com

thank about it!!!

I have always thought that would make for a great addition to WEM's waterpark.

I know people here generally hate malls, especially WEM. But WEM isn't exactly going to be torn down so I would personally like to see it improved enough to be an actuall world class tourist atraction.

It needs some things like the surf park in the waterpark. Galaxy land should be about 5 times the size and more indoor disneyland than indoor k-days. The retail area it eats up can go on a 3rd floor. And about 3 more high-end hotels in the mall (no more crappy wem inns). And some more crazy things like an indoor ski hill (like in Dubai) to give some turists that come in the summer an idea what winter in Canada is like to help get them to come back. And finally LRT from WEM to downtown. And all that would probably cost 2-3 times what the mall originally cost to build.

So that is what I would do if I wanted to do something crazy for the city. Sure I want to see more action downtown like everyone else, but I think it is coming. But WEM is becoming a major embarrassment and I would rather see it improved than left to rot.

ExcaliburKid
01-17-2007, 05:45 PM
An "Edmonton Arch" to go along with our Gateway to the North theme, modeled after the one in St. Louis. Placement would be key, though, and I was thinking either near Gateway Park on the south side of the city, or preferably downtown, if there is land available for such a grand project.
http://www.explorestlouis.com/imageLibrary/files/archRiverfront/archtugskyline.jpg

Wooster
01-17-2007, 06:01 PM
Why not just a new university that centers on the Liberal Arts, Mount Royal is already biult and we'll always need a public college type school for basic upgrading and verious diploma programs. The current plans to to turn MRC into some kind of quasi university that can grant degrees but does no research is definately flawed. The new school could be called the Calgary School of the Liberal Arts. It would center on the humanities and social sciences, maybe include a fine arts component.

I'd say what I'd do is move ACAD to the old Molson Brewery site with a nice top of the line urban campus. It would have to happen around the same time as the SE LRT. Come to think of it I'd give some of the empty lots along 9th Ave there to the school as well. Kill two birds with one stone, biuld low to midrise dorms with streetfront retail (maybe a nice public gallery to show off student work in one spot) along the road for non-first year students. It would do alot, finally give ACAD its own space (and allow SAIT to expand into the space vacated, which will have to happen sooner or later), fill the gaps along 9th Ave and help Inglewood really take off.

Great Ideas. :tup:

SHOFEAR
01-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Worlds tallest Source Adult Video/Payday Loans/Liqour Barn. 45 floors of goodness.

240glt
01-17-2007, 07:27 PM
Worlds tallest Source Adult Video/Payday Loans/Liqour Barn. 45 floors of goodness.

Awesome... it can be right downtown and bright yellow, with blacked out windows so no one can see the people buying porn and hawking VCR's!:jester:

dubiousmike
01-17-2007, 07:30 PM
Calgary needs at least two more jazz clubs.

The dingier the better.

murman
01-17-2007, 07:43 PM
I know people here generally hate malls, especially WEM. But WEM isn't exactly going to be torn down so I would personally like to see it improved enough to be an actuall world class tourist atraction.

And about 3 more high-end hotels in the mall (no more crappy wem inns).

:haha:

I'm sorry, but WEM's demographic is so not high-end. They day a true high-end hotel opens up there is the day I'll eat my hat.

Kevin_foster
01-17-2007, 08:09 PM
:haha:

I'm sorry, but WEM's demographic is so not high-end. They day a true high-end hotel opens up there is the day I'll eat my hat.

Well, they DO have a Lacoste store open you know. That says ALOT :cool:

Only The Lonely..
01-17-2007, 08:11 PM
If it has to be one thing. It would be a public art gallery. It is the biggest missing piece in Calgary in terms of civic buildings. An intersting site would be Louise Crossing.

Really, Calgary doesn't have a public art gallery?

Hmm...I guess there is something out there that Winnipeg has that Calgary doesn't.
:D

murman
01-17-2007, 08:31 PM
Well, they DO have a Lacoste store open you know. That says ALOT :cool:

Sign me up for a room at the Ritz then; make it a suite.

Distill3d
01-17-2007, 08:36 PM
Calgary needs at least two more jazz clubs.

The dingier the better.

and a true blues club again. something about beer, smoke, and blues music goes together like ice cream and apple pie.

thanks to the new smoking by-law, it won't happen.

Blue_Cypress
01-17-2007, 10:34 PM
Really, Calgary doesn't have a public art gallery?

Hmm...I guess there is something out there that Winnipeg has that Calgary doesn't.
:D

No, we don't have one.

http://www.trianglegallery.com/

http://www.artgallerycalgary.org/about/index.htm

We do have some. They just suck so much that no one knows about them.

SpongeG
01-17-2007, 11:40 PM
something like this tv tower thing - either near metrotown or in surrey near surrey central or gateway

http://www.goworldtravel.com/Julyimages/panorama2.jpg

Distill3d
01-17-2007, 11:45 PM
something like this tv tower thing - either near metrotown or in surrey near surrey central or gateway

http://www.goworldtravel.com/Julyimages/panorama2.jpg

so basically Science World on a stick? :haha:

chuber
01-17-2007, 11:58 PM
:haha:

I'm sorry, but WEM's demographic is so not high-end. They day a true high-end hotel opens up there is the day I'll eat my hat.

True, and by 'high-end' I basically just no more shitty Inns like the one accross the street. Fantasy Hotel at the minimum. And if the rest of the mall had some decent improvements they could definitely fill the hotels. Fantasy Hotel already has some of the lowest vacancy rates in the city and it isn't that bad.

murman
01-18-2007, 12:44 AM
True, and by 'high-end' I basically just no more shitty Inns like the one accross the street. Fantasy Hotel at the minimum. And if the rest of the mall had some decent improvements they could definitely fill the hotels. Fantasy Hotel already has some of the lowest vacancy rates in the city and it isn't that bad.


Fantasy Hotel your definition of high-end?

"Hey Irene... ah jus' dun booked us inta that thur pick-up suite at that mall hotel.. hyuk hyuk hyuk...".

Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but really...

SpongeG
01-18-2007, 01:10 AM
haha

CorporateWhore
01-18-2007, 01:11 AM
An "Edmonton Arch" to go along with our Gateway to the North theme, modeled after the one in St. Louis.

You don't think that would seem like a total rip-off? It would sort of be like building an Eiffel Tower....unless its a theme-park city like Vegas, not right.

Xelebes
01-18-2007, 02:08 AM
If we're gonna have an arch, we might as well make a new high-level bridge (not High Level Bridge, mind you) using arches like a suspension bridge - preferably used as a gateway into downtown.

ExcaliburKid
01-18-2007, 03:48 AM
You don't think that would seem like a total rip-off? It would sort of be like building an Eiffel Tower....unless its a theme-park city like Vegas, not right.

Well, I didnt mean build it to the exact specs of the one in St. Louis, it was just an idea, and since Edmonton likes to promote itself as the northern gateway, I thought it would be a cool idea. Edmonton doesnt have one single recognizable structure, and I think something like this would be pretty awesome. I would obviously hope for an original design, but like it or not, all arches will look similar.

Distill3d
01-18-2007, 03:53 AM
...Edmonton doesnt have one single recognizable structure...


*cough*
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/postcard.jpg
*cough*

looks recognizable to me. i think i would associate that with edmonton. I doubt anyone here would disagree either.

and if that doesn't turn your crank, how about these babies:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/grantmactowers.jpg

ExcaliburKid
01-18-2007, 04:00 AM
^ Ok, Ok, those might be on a Canadian scale, or to people familiar with the city, but i'm thinking on a world scale. Edmonton needs to rise up and be noticed, and something radical, such as an arch or some other tantalizing structure that can be pinned to us, like the Eiffel Tower is to Paris, or the Sydney Opera House is to Sydney. Maybe the new AGA will do it, but I dont want it to stop there.

Greco Roman
01-18-2007, 04:08 AM
^ Ok, Ok, those might be on a Canadian scale, or to people familiar with the city, but i'm thinking on a world scale. Edmonton needs to rise up and be noticed, and something radical, such as an arch or some other tantalizing structure that can be pinned to us, like the Eiffel Tower is to Paris, or the Sydney Opera House is to Sydney. Maybe the new AGA will do it, but I dont want it to stop there.

I would also like to see this mentality applied for Winnipeg as well; the Human Rights Museum is a start.

Xelebes
01-18-2007, 04:11 AM
I don't think it needs anything like that. I think it needs something that A) fits into Edmonton and B) causes other developers to look at it and become inspired.

It doesn't need to be massive, it doesn't need to be garish. It just needs to fit. We do have some decent anchors - High Level Bridge, Alberta Legislature, Manulife Place and Muttart Conservatory. Though I must remnd architects that they must not milk the Muttart's design like we did with the City Hall where it is simply milked dry.

Distill3d
01-18-2007, 04:11 AM
^ Ok, Ok, those might be on a Canadian scale, or to people familiar with the city, but i'm thinking on a world scale. Edmonton needs to rise up and be noticed, and something radical, such as an arch or some other tantalizing structure that can be pinned to us, like the Eiffel Tower is to Paris, or the Sydney Opera House is to Sydney. Maybe the new AGA will do it, but I dont want it to stop there.

lets not get to greedy here. i mean honestly look at Calgary we have the Saddledome and the Calgary Tower as our pinniacles of architectural wonderness. I mean the Legislature building is (IMO) more beautiful then anything Calgary has. and hey, Commonwealth Stadium is the largest of its kind in Canada. I'd say Edmonton was in good shape architecturally.

If I could do one thing to Edmonton it would be to shut down the International Airport and sell it to the DND and then expand on the City Center Airport (eventually annexing Kingsway Mall into the terminal).

ExcaliburKid
01-18-2007, 04:14 AM
If I could do one thing to Edmonton it would be to shut down the International Airport and sell it to the DND and then expand on the City Center Airport (eventually annexing Kingsway Mall into the terminal).


I hope you're joking

m0nkyman
01-18-2007, 04:18 AM
In Edmonton:
A complex with four 40 storey towers on the corners of a downtown arena.... ;)

In Victoria:
A conference centre. A huge fricking conference centre. On the harbour, where this big red mass is
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tGuerrero/conventionCentre.jpg

Xelebes
01-18-2007, 04:19 AM
It could work provided that we do not build a new tallest tower ever, have stunted development north of downtown and willing to not have the new Airbus 380's come into Edmonton.

Um yeah...unless we're gonna start making a Canadian Gothic revival with our developments, it's not going to work well.

Distill3d
01-18-2007, 04:22 AM
I hope you're joking

yeah :haha:

i don't think i would change a thing about Edmonton. its perfect they way it is.

Xelebes
01-18-2007, 04:26 AM
yeah :haha:

i don't think i would change a thing about Edmonton. its perfect they way it is.

Ok, city centre airport? Most of us in Edmonton want it closed and the land developed.

ExcaliburKid
01-18-2007, 04:30 AM
^ Haha ok, you had me worried for a second there :D

Edmonchuck
01-18-2007, 07:00 AM
Though I must remnd architects that they must not milk the Muttart's design like we did with the City Hall where it is simply milked dry.

What, you don't like it that every new proposal has to have a gawd darned pyramid on it, and we have to go and save the other pentacostal pyramid or the pyramid gods will strike us down...with a pyramid.

chuber
01-18-2007, 06:08 PM
Fantasy Hotel your definition of high-end?

"Hey Irene... ah jus' dun booked us inta that thur pick-up suite at that mall hotel.. hyuk hyuk hyuk...".

Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but really...


You are not reading it correctly. I said that hotel as a minumum. And just higher-end than the shitty inn like I said. I don't expect a Banff Springs or even anything close.

Anyway, pointless agruing over...

Riise
01-18-2007, 08:33 PM
If it has to be one thing. It would be a public art gallery. It is the biggest missing piece in Calgary in terms of civic buildings. An intersting site would be Louise Crossing.

I think something like any of these would suffice. (Valencia)

http://ucalgary.ca/~daprevat/valencia.jpg

Xelebes
01-19-2007, 12:19 AM
What, you don't like it that every new proposal has to have a gawd darned pyramid on it, and we have to go and save the other pentacostal pyramid or the pyramid gods will strike us down...with a pyramid.

Pretty much.

Who brought up Manulife II? Coldsrx? Anyways, I live the onion-domed palisade concept.

SpongeG
01-19-2007, 02:40 AM
*cough*
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/postcard.jpg
*cough*

looks recognizable to me. i think i would associate that with edmonton. I doubt anyone here would disagree either.

and if that doesn't turn your crank, how about these babies:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/grantmactowers.jpg

that could be any capital type building

i can't really singally identify any of them

http://www.centraltexasturnpike.org/images/capital.jpg

http://www.flintco.com/images/image_large_ok_capital.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/56/145634680_cabaeec945.jpg

http://www.ontherunevents.com/ccma/capital_bldg.jpg



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