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Wooster
Jan 20, 2007, 7:37 PM
Transit hit by 10% rise in riders
City struggles to provide service amid staff crunch

Kim Guttormson, Calgary Herald
Published: Saturday, January 20, 2007

Calgary Transit ridership jumped almost 10 per cent last year, with nearly 90 million paying customers boarding buses and using the LRT.

That's more than twice the expected increase and about eight million more riders than in 2005.

The numbers include 250,000 people who ride the C-Train every weekday, a boost of 30,000 from 2005.

"Ninety million customers, it just speaks to the demand of growth pressures we're seeing everywhere in Calgary," Mayor Dave Bronconnier said.

But transit's increasing popularity comes with a series of challenges. The system is running over its capacity, leading to complaints about crowding and service.

Pat Couture, waiting for the LRT after work this week, said she started taking the train downtown after losing her parking space at the Calgary Board of Education.

"I hate it," she said of the packed LRT cars. "It's awful. You can't even breathe. It's so full you don't have to hold on.

"I've never sat down. Never."

While she isn't happy with the sardine-like feeling of rush-hour transit travel, Couture does enjoy speeding past cars crawling home.

"It's so fast getting out of downtown," she said. "You go by on Memorial (Drive) and look at all the people in their cars, sitting there."

Transit officials believe additional LRT cars and buses will alleviate some of the crunch. The first four new C-Train cars should be on the tracks by next month, with the remaining

36 arriving throughout the year.

Ultimately, they will be used on the northeast and northwest extensions, and provide service on all lines every three minutes during peak periods, up from every five minutes now, transit spokesman Ron Collins said.

As well, the first of 43 new buses begin arriving this week. And, some of the six articulated buses on order will hit town in mid-March.

"They're a good start for us, those additional cars, because we know we have overcrowding problems in peak periods," Collins said.

However, someone has to drive the new vehicles and additional LRT runs, as well as maintain the equipment. And like other employers in the city, transit is struggling to keep the employees it has, never mind adding more staff to accommodate growing demand.

Right now, transit is looking to hire up to 130 people to replace those who have retired or been lured away by other jobs. Collins acknowledged they'll need more than that to meet city council's direction to add 129,000 service hours this year.

"We'll have an announcement next week on a major recruitment campaign that will look at aggressively trying to hire at least the 100 or 130 drivers we're short right now," Collins said.

The increase in ridership demonstrates how valued transit is in the city, Ald. Druh Farrell said. But she's concerned so much money is still spent on roads rather than invested in transit.

"We've run out of capital funding. We made big decisions on huge funding areas with diminished returns, like interchanges. Perhaps we should have been focused on transit," she said. "We're building a city that's car-centric, yet we know Calgarians are interested in alternatives."

Despite the increased use of the C-train and buses, the number of cars on the road continues to grow..

The city's transportation department says there are between 140,000 and 150,000 vehicles being driven during the morning rush hour. And according to the Alberta government, 41,456 more motor vehicles were registered in the city -- ranging from scooters to semis -- between April 2005 and March 2006 over the previous 12 months.

During that same time period, Calgary's population rose by about 35,000 people.

In some ways, more cars should also lead to more transit use, Ald. Madeleine King said.

"The traffic jams are getting worse," she said. "There's much more reliance on transit. There's a huge appetite for more."

She said the transit system is the only issue where her constituents encourage her to spend more money.

Farrell said investing in transit can only boost ridership further.

"I imagine we'd be able to get a lot more ridership if the system was better funded," she said. "We should do everything we can to increase capacity."

Bronconnier said when the provincial government delivers new infrastructure funding, transit will be the city's top priority.

While customers tell Calgary Transit they find the service safe, affordable and courteous, Bronconnier said "the key is that it remains that."

"We need more routes and resources with which to provide a service."

kguttormson@theherald.canwest.com

By the numbers:

90 million

Number of paid customers on Calgary transit -- buses and LRT -- last year

40

New LRT cars to come online in 2007

130

New transit drivers needed

© The Calgary Herald 2007

canucklehead2
Jan 20, 2007, 11:25 PM
Yay! Congrats Cowtown on doing what Edmonton hasn't been able to yet, which is get their LRT to be a fully functioning viable mass transit system for the ENTIRE city...

staff
Jan 21, 2007, 6:12 AM
Thsoe are great numbers, especially for a North American city! :tup:

ssiguy
Jan 21, 2007, 7:20 AM
I really hope that the new government give Calgary and Edmonton REAL money to expand their LRT systems, its not like they don't have the money.

Xelebes
Jan 21, 2007, 8:56 AM
I really hope that the new government give Calgary and Edmonton REAL money to expand their LRT systems, its not like they don't have the money.

I believe there is something in the ballpark of 600 million dollars a year given to Edmonton to build the LRT from fuel taxes.

queetz@home
Jan 21, 2007, 11:11 AM
Calgary rules!!! A true testament to the success of LRT systems out there! :tup:

mersar
Jan 21, 2007, 5:51 PM
I believe there is something in the ballpark of 600 million dollars a year given to Edmonton to build the LRT from fuel taxes.

That would be a nice figure if it was correct, however fuel taxes mostly go into roads and even then I don't believe the value is quite that high.

And consider that $600 million per year would build a huge amount of track (the NW extension in Calgary, which is 4km, will cost $200 million or so), in one years funding ETS could have doubled the size of the Edmonton system. Right now most of the funding for these expansions comes in one time allocations from the province.

The new money that will be coming up in the budget in the spring should make a signficant impact, I know we've discussed to death the possibilities of what Calgary can do to expand and where the needs are.

Riise
Jan 21, 2007, 11:51 PM
I believe there is something in the ballpark of 600 million dollars a year given to Edmonton to build the LRT from fuel taxes.

I highly doubt that figure is correct, although it would be fabulous if it was.

canucklehead2
Jan 22, 2007, 4:53 AM
Yeah, I think it's probably 1/10th of that, or at least thats what they are willing to spend MAX. Personally I do think that's what they should be spending per year for overall mass transit improvements in the Edmonton region.

shreddog
Jan 23, 2007, 7:57 PM
I really hope that the new government give Calgary and Edmonton REAL money to expand their LRT systems, its not like they don't have the money.
It would also be nice if the feds pony'ed up some cash like in other cities!

Justin10000
Jan 23, 2007, 11:18 PM
Proof that LRT can work in sprawl!

wong21fr
Jan 24, 2007, 5:02 PM
Good news for Calgary, it's going to take Denver 20 years to reach 250,000 riders a days for our rail systems at the best-case estimates.

canucklehead2
Jan 24, 2007, 5:08 PM
Part of it success I think happens to be the uniqueness of Calgary. I mean how many cities have that high a concentration of workers in their downtown vs. suburban areas. It's almost unprecidented. Still cool though!

miketoronto
Jan 24, 2007, 5:21 PM
Thats the answer. Transit only works when you have people working downtown.

Move those jobs to the suburbs, and watch the transit ridership just drop overnight.

Transit only works when downtown works.

J. Will
Jan 24, 2007, 5:35 PM
That's a great number, especially for a city of it's density.

I always have a good chuckle when I read about metro areas with more than twice the population of Calgary having "successful" LRT with no more than 50,000-60,000 riders per day.

The Chemist
Jan 24, 2007, 6:55 PM
Another reason for the high transit usage in Calgary is that 2 of the city's main post secondary education facilities (U of C and SAIT), the 2 main stadia (McMahon and the Saddledome), several shopping malls, several high schools, and a major hospital are all accessible by LRT.

1Post2
Jan 24, 2007, 7:23 PM
if anyone's got some time on his (or her, yeah right) hands, i'd enjoy seeing a route map and photos of the LRT stations in calgary, especially the suburban ones.

Wooster
Jan 24, 2007, 7:24 PM
TODs are also beginning to pop up. taking greater advantage of the system.

Keep in mind that essentially only half of the planned LRT system is built out in Calgary. Three legs currently out of downtown out of the planned 6.

The West Line is in the planning stages. The SE line will follow after that. The City and Provine are currently working out more long-term sustainabe funding for Alberta Cities that will facilitate the construction of these lines. The West Line is currently the number one priority for funding.

There will also be two downtown subways built and all trains and stations will be converted to 4 cars per train, up from the current 3.

With the build out of these lines in the next 15 years, ridership will be well into the 600 000- 700 000 per day range.

I've always been mystified at the amount of money being spent in cities like Denver for LRT and relatively little return there is. A fraction of the ridership in a metro that is 2 1/2 times bigger than Calgary. What is the projected ridership? If that kind of meny were sent in Calgary, ridership would be huge.

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Wooster
Jan 24, 2007, 7:28 PM
if anyone's got some time on his (or her, yeah right) hands, i'd enjoy seeing a route map and photos of the LRT stations in calgary, especially the suburban ones.

Go to this site - it is made by one of the forumers here. It has images and info on almost all LRT stations in Calgary. Really good resource.

http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/

miketoronto
Jan 24, 2007, 8:50 PM
I've always been mystified at the amount of money being spent in cities like Denver for LRT and relatively little return there is. A fraction of the ridership in a metro that is 2 1/2 times bigger than Calgary. What is the projected ridership? If that kind of meny were sent in Calgary, ridership would be huge.


If has to do with where the employment is, and the density of the suburbs the rail serves.

The American cities have let their downtowns fall as major employment areas, and that is why ridership is not there on these LRT lines.

skytowers
Jan 25, 2007, 5:08 PM
With regard to the future LRT lines it seems that the line going to the airport is a repeat to the one going up through Harvest Hills? Wonder why thy don't bring the Saddleridge one over to the airport?

What bugs me is how they put space in place for future development but they build a road such as Stoney Trail and Crowchild with little consideration to the fact that they will one day want the LRT going through.

Will more lines substantially reduce the need for road infrastructure?

srperrycgy
Jan 25, 2007, 6:45 PM
Go to this site - it is made by one of the forumers here. It has images and info on almost all LRT stations in Calgary. Really good resource.

http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/

Thanks Josh as always. :)

I've even posted a short video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OigWwr-ClLY

Boris2k7
Jan 25, 2007, 7:07 PM
Will more lines substantially reduce the need for road infrastructure?

The short answer: Yes

Whereas more road infrastructure will actually induce more traffic (that is, more people will drive and more cars will be on the road), LRT takes cars off the roads. A new line could be built in a year or two, given a commitment by the city, and would be able to take tens of thousands of cars off the roads all at once. At the same time, the city would rather spend the same amount of money building interchanges that at best improve the average driver's commute by a few minutes. That is, until some more cars hit the roads and slows everyone down again.

So if drivers were smart, they would strongly support increasing the pace of CTrain expansion and retrofitting older stations.



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